1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ and 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: Buck with you? Buck? What's going on? 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Man? Nothing? Man? 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 3: I mean, look, man, it's a final weekend. I mean, 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is it. I'm excited about 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: the Championship Games. I know people talk about they lost 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: a little bit of lust with the quarterback oh Nick's 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 3: being out, But I'm excited there's some new faces, some 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: fresh quarterbacks that we're talking about. 11 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: With the old guy Matthew Stafford, should be a lot 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: of fun to watch it. 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I think it's going 14 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: to be a war up in Seattle with the Rams. 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a heavyweight matchup. And then I'm excited 16 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: to see what Jared Sidham does with his opportunity. Man, 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: it's fun to see somebody you know get up. You 18 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: talk about a big, big chance, and I was thinking 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: beyond just this game, like here, Jared Sidham's not old, 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, and Jared Sidham's got ability and talent. How 21 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: about the stage for him to do something and maybe 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: open up an opportunity for him somewhere else next year? 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: With a draft it's a little underwhelming at the quarterback spot. 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: But how about this, how about Sean Payton. Remember when 25 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: they paid to get him from the Raiders. They paid 26 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: a hefty penny to get him. And look, he hasn't played, 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: but when he got his opportunity to start with the 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 3: Races first started, he threw for over three hundred yards. 29 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: They had three touchdowns or whatever. This preseason and preseason 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: is vastly different than the postseason. But he can play 31 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: almost seventy nine percent of his passes, you have four 32 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 3: touchdowns and those things. And I will say this, Sean 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: Payton is just arrogant enough or confident enough to feel 34 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: like he can pull this off. And I think we 35 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: have to understand who Sean Payton worked for. He worked 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: for Bill Parcells, when Bill Parcells did this with Jeff Hosteler, 37 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: when Phil got done. So there's going to be a 38 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: little bit of belief that he can get this done. 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: And on the other side of the Patriots, they have 40 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: to guard against taking that deep breath like, hey, Bo 41 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: Knicks is not playing, we got this. I think if 42 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm Mike Rabel, that would be the part that concerns 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: me more that the guys kind of go in thinking, hey, 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: they're playing with a backup quarterback. We got this, and 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: you don't have the same edge that you would have 46 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: going into it at bow. 47 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: NICKX was QB one. Yeah. 48 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: No, I think it's hard to say, Gosh, can you 49 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: be really relaxed when you're in a chance to get 50 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: into the Super Bowl with a game? But there is 51 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: something in the back of your head that's like, to me, 52 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: it's almost like you can't play reckless. It's not so 53 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: much that you're kind of letting your garden on, it's 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: that you can't be over aggressive saying, oh, he hasn't played, 55 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: we got to heat him up, so we're going to 56 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: be super super aggressive because you will get screened to 57 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: death by Sean Payton if you do that. 58 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: And I think we've all seen the DJ You've been 59 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: on the call of games where the backup quarterback is 60 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: in and it takes you a while to figure it 61 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: out because naturally you want to go after the backup quarterback, 62 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: but they have counters to it, Oh we're gonna screen 63 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: you to death, and then you end up having to 64 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: sit back and be like, hold up, now, let's make 65 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: this guy beat us. Let's not give him anything and 66 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: see if they can do it. Typically the backup quarterback 67 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: for a reason. For the Patriots, there is going to 68 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: be some of that feeling out process before they settle 69 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: into their defensive game plan based on what he's able 70 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: to do, and they probably won't know it until after 71 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: the first quarter. 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: It's a really good matchup with Denver's offensive line. It's 73 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: really really physical going up against the Patriots defensive line 74 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: where they will throw bodies down there. They play downhill, 75 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: they play aggressive, they can get in gaps, and Milk 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: Williams has been playing out of his mind over the 77 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: last month. 78 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Milton Williams is terrific on the inside, but I'm 79 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: gonna say there are other players that are doing well 80 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: when I look at them and they're rolled in so 81 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: many veterans in and out. Calebon Chase on is playing 82 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: like the first round pick that the Jet how about 83 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: that has always hoped you to be. But DJ, it's 84 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: one of the things that we've talked about. It is 85 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: really important that whoever you draft that you got to 86 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: make sure they're in the right environment, the right system 87 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: for who they are as players, and calebon Chason started 88 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: to come on a little bit with the Raiders last year, 89 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: but this year with the Patriots, man he has been 90 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: everything that people wanted him to be as a first 91 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: round talent. And I think you have to say that 92 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: about a lot of the Patriots players. Robert Splane is 93 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: playing great, Carlton Davis is playing pretty well, Christi Gonzalez 94 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: we'd already talked about being a high end player, but 95 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: they have found a way to take all these guys 96 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: that they got, put them together and they're playing really 97 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: well for defensive coordinator who wasn't even supposed to be the. 98 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: Coordinator about that, absolutely absolutely incredible the job they've done. 99 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: And we mentioned it on one of the previous episodes, 100 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: like sack production wise during the regular season not great, 101 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: you know. And then I remember getting ready and prepping 102 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: for that game against the Chargers, going, I don't know 103 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: if they're going to be able to get to the quarterback, 104 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: but the coverage was so sticky and tight and they 105 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: were able to And they can be aggressive and they 106 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: need to be. 107 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: But hasn't that always been the Patriot way going back 108 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: to when Belichick was there. 109 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: They he built it back front. 110 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they put more of the emphasis on coverage as 111 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 3: opposed to pressure, but because the coverage was so sticky, 112 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: they could generate the pressure, and the pressure they generated 113 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 3: stuts in games four man pressures, not a lot of blitzing. 114 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: We don't play man with a rent in the middle 115 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: to make it difficult for the quarterback. 116 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying that Mike Babel is Belichick, 117 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: but they're doing. 118 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: A lot of the same stuff Bill Belichick did for 119 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: a long time successfully in Newing. 120 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty wild man. 121 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: I used to see what happens in this ball game. 122 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: You know, Ken can Drake may avoid the turnovers that's 123 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: kind of gone under the radar, and their two wins 124 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: the ball on the ground and with Benito and company 125 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: coming off. 126 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: The edges, buck they get the ball out. 127 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: So that's hest have to speed up his clock a 128 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: little bit in this game. 129 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: Yes, speed up his clock. 130 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 3: And I think people have to understand this because after 131 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: the bow knick situation, a lot of people have kind 132 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: of just conceded everything to the pageot. But I'm gonna 133 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: say this, because you've been in that stadium. Playing in 134 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: Denver is a challenge, and there are a few different 135 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: challenges that one. The altitude can be a thing that 136 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: overwhelms you. When you're very emotional playing in the altitude 137 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: that first quarter hits, it's gonna kind of knock you 138 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: back and it takes you a while to get your 139 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: second win. So you got to worry about that, keeping 140 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: your emotions in check in warm ups in the early 141 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: part of the game because you can gas out and 142 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: when they go tempo, it can gass you out in 143 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: the later stage of the game, which I believe is 144 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: contributed to their success winning in the fourth quarter. The 145 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: other part of it, that crowd is loud, it is rackets, 146 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: the way the stadium is constructed, it can kind of 147 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: get on you. And when you talk about a team 148 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: that is an attack minded defense where they're gonna blitz 149 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: impress you. If they get you in these long yarded 150 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: situations third and seven plus third and ten or eleven, 151 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: that's when they heat you up. And you talked about 152 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 3: Bernido and Zach Allen and some of the other guys. Cooper, 153 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: they bring it a lot at you, and with Drake 154 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: May's turnover woes, that's. 155 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: When the game gets scary for them. 156 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm also curious to see if that is you 157 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: know a way that McDaniels kind of calls the game. 158 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: Is he going to try and protect this quarter back 159 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: in terms of, hey, we can, we can, we can, 160 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: we can punt in this game. That's not going to 161 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: kill us. We don't think they're their offense with the 162 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks going to score a million points. So if 163 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: we got some third and sevens and third and elevens, 164 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I think you saw it in the in the college 165 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: championship game. Hey, we'll pop a run every now and 166 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: then on some of these. We'll throw a wide receiver 167 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: screen on third and seven. You know we're not going 168 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: to let this pass rush win the game against us. 169 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 170 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: Look, it'd be really interesting to see how the Patriots 171 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: attack it and how they change in the middle of 172 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: game once they get a feel for how potent the 173 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: Broncos can be. With Jerry Stidham, I think that first quarter, 174 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: when you're filling each other out and people are throwing 175 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: their jabs, you would get a sense of, Okay, this team, 176 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: they're not gonna be able to score a lot of points, 177 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: so we can play it close to the best and 178 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: let the game come to us. 179 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: The other part, and I don't know if people have 180 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: talked about it. 181 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: The Patriots wide receivers got to win against the sticky 182 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: coverage on the outside against the Broncos passer ten, Yeah, 183 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: probably a try to attack Riley Moss or whatever, but 184 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: they're not a lot of open areas that are going 185 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: to be available. Like Bouti is going to have to 186 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: win on the outside. Hunter Henry's gonna have to be 187 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: a factor. It could be challenging for them to win 188 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: the one on one matchups against the Broncos while they're 189 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: bringing the pressure at Drake May. That game plan with 190 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels, what he does to kind of slow down 191 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: some of the exotics that advanced Joseph would dial up. 192 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: That's gonna be a big part of this. 193 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: I think they're trying and run the ball. I think 194 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: Trayvon Henderson, you know, is a part of this thing, 195 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: catching the BA out of the backfield a little bit. 196 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: Stevenson's is a physical, physical dude, so they to me, 197 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: I think that's with that defense, you don't want to 198 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: live in, you know, behind the sticks against that group. Yeah, 199 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: you got an MVP caliber quarterback, I get that, but 200 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: that's not how you want to play this defense. 201 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: You don't want to do that now. 202 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: I would say this having watched the Jacks play against 203 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: him and successfully knocked them out and really kind of 204 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: beat them handle it. 205 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: It took a. 206 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: Quarter and a half before they settled in, and I 207 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: mean the pressure was coming from everywhere. 208 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: The crowd was rock and rolling. 209 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: And then it kind of flipped once Trevor settled down 210 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: and they found different ways to kind of get the 211 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: ball on the perimeter, running, finding ways to find matches 212 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: with Parker Washington and those things. 213 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a chess matches. 214 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 3: So I just want people to come into this game 215 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: not expecting the blowout that everyone is going to. 216 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: Talk about because bo Nix is not playing. 217 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: This is still in my mind it's gonna be a 218 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: fourth quarter game where you gonna have to make some 219 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: plays in the fourth quarter to knock the Broncos out 220 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: if you're ahead. 221 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: No doubt. All right, let's take a quick break, we 222 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: come back. We'll get over to the NFC with the 223 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Rams Seahawks. Round three. We'll get to that right up 224 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: for this, all right, just the first overall thought on 225 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: this one. Rams survive in Chicago and they get their 226 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: rematch up in Seattle against a Seahawks team that I mean, 227 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: it's just playing lights out right now. 228 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a meme that you put out Sunday night. 229 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 3: It's predicted a lot of pain. It's clever laying, it's 230 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: Rocky's I mean, this is going to be a market 231 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: match to where we talk about physicality and violence the 232 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: one thing and you know this, see I've talked about it. 233 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: Rock Huer came on and talked about it. They talked 234 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: about violence and physicality like they have an old school 235 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: mindset when it comes to how they want to play 236 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: this game on offense and defense, and the Rams bring 237 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: that too, they do it in different packaging. But let's 238 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: talk about the Seahawks. Their defense is terrific and upfront. Man, 239 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 3: they get after it. They're explosive, they're deep, they can 240 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: rush you inside and outside. 241 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: They stop the run. 242 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: They got a very i would say, a diverse secondary 243 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: that can match up and do a bunch of different 244 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: things in Manori, it's kind of like that new school 245 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: camp Chancellor in the middle. Witherspoon can play a few 246 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: different roles. They're really good on that. And then it 247 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 3: complements an offense that can run the football but has 248 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: an explosive nature to it, like they're gonna run it 249 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: and do those things. And I know Zach Chrmanat is 250 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: not in but they're gonna find ways to run it, 251 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: to control it, and then JSN is going to find 252 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: a way to wear you out on the perimeter. 253 00:10:58,920 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: He is that good. 254 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: He's exceeded anything that I could have thought he would 255 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: be coming out of Ohio State, and I felt like 256 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: I was high on him. He is terrific when it 257 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: comes to being a playmaker in route run on the outside. 258 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: He's a pro. He was a pro coming out of 259 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: college and he's been that. And someone that can play 260 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: inside outside, plays with strength, can win at the lion 261 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, can win at the top. Sam trusts him, so, yeah, 262 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: that's going to be a key player. But you flip 263 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: it over this side with Pooka in the way he's 264 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: rolling with Stafford and they don't have that environment is 265 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: very hard. I think it's even harder to play in 266 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: Seattle than it is Denver. Or you're just referencing with 267 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: the noise and the craziness that can consume you in 268 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: that stadium. Stafford's experienced it. I know they didn't win 269 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: that game last time, but they were dominating the getting yards. 270 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I know they were dominating the game. They were dominant 271 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: the game that we have to be real about that. 272 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: I know Seattle one, but there's a way that that 273 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: fight was going. 274 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: They were up by two touchdowns late in the game, 275 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: and I'll be honest, some miraculous stuff happened for the Seahawks, 276 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: and I think to understand that the return got them 277 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: back and then they were able to kind of get 278 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: the drive down the end. It's gonna be rockets and 279 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: it's gonna be messy, and how the Rams handle the 280 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: mess that, that misty, rainy thing that always kind of 281 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: hovers over that stadium, how they handle that is going 282 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: to be really important. But this is what we know. 283 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: I don't think the Rams have played great in either 284 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: of their two playoff games, and what you hope if 285 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: you're the Rams coaching staff, Hey, we got to clean 286 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: this up so we can have a chance to be 287 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: at our best. Because we are at our best. We 288 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 3: know what this team is. We know how to beat 289 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: this team. We've done it. They have to do it. 290 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: But they can't turn the ball over like they turn 291 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: it over. They can't deviate away from the run game 292 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: like they did against the Bears. 293 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: They have to lock in and be at their best. 294 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. Sean McVay said he didn't coach his 295 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: best game last week. He has to be on it. 296 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: He has to be on point this week for them 297 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: to knock off the Seahawks. 298 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: And the first meeting between these guys, you know, Seattle. 299 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: I feel like they dominated the game that just had 300 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: their turnover issues. To me, protecting the ball is massive, 301 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: and I think getting Sam settled into this game early 302 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: on is going to be key to me. I like him, 303 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Get him out, get him out of there. Don't leave 304 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: him as a sitting duck, which they don't do often. 305 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, just just don't have him just you know, 306 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: lining up in the same spot, same launch point against 307 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: this front. Get him on the move. That touchdown he 308 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: threw rolling left last week the JSN was a great example. 309 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: He is, even with the injury of the oblique, rolling right, 310 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: rolling left doesn't matter. He's very accurate and very comfortable 311 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: doing that. I think they got to get that going 312 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: a little early. 313 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the team that settles in the quickest is going 314 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: to have the best chance to be able to do it. 315 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: And we talked about it. 316 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: Even though, like the Seattle Seahawks in particular, a very 317 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: young team, the environment of a championship game is so different, 318 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: like the emotions and all that can overwhelm you. So 319 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: how Mike McDonald gets his young guys to settle in 320 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: and to just be the people that they've been all year, 321 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: that's going to be critical for the Rams. A little 322 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 3: different because you got the old field general in Matthew Stafford. 323 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: You have some older guys who kind of been around. 324 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: Devanta Adams is older, like you have some best has 325 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: kind of been around this thing, the settling in process early, 326 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: not trying to do too much, not trying to play 327 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: a hero ball, but hey, let's just execute. 328 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: Let's let's take our time getting to it. You don't 329 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: have to knock them out. 330 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: We can win my decision on cards in the twelfth 331 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: round being able to settle down and not get caught up. 332 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: And I would say the emotional ebbs and flows of 333 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: the game are gonna be. 334 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Critical, yeah, no doubt, and look forward to seeing how 335 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: the thing gets started and then once you get to 336 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: the end. I mean, the one thing about it is 337 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: the reason why we're saying it's so important to start. 338 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the teams in the playoffs, 339 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: I would say maybe the Patriots the exception, but these 340 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: three of these teams, Denver, with Seattle and with the 341 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Rams closers everywhere, they can finish you off. If you 342 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: are in a situation where you're chasing points late in 343 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: the game, no point on no. 344 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: You don't want to have to do that. And particularly 345 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: both of the home teams, Seattle and Denver playing at 346 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: home with those pass rushers, you don't want to be 347 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: in that situation, in that environment. So it's really important 348 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: that you get off to the fast start. And we 349 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: always talk about being able to play from in front, 350 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: which is kind of like a no brainer, but people 351 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: have to understand how the game changes when you're playing 352 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: from in front and you're able to control it and 353 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: dictate the terms. You don't want to be in a 354 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: shootout where you're having to chase and chase and chase 355 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: and you become one dimensional, pass happy against any of those. 356 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: Teams in the tournament. 357 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to we don't do this often, 358 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: but who do you like in these games? 359 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that I'm gonna go Patriots in the 360 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: AFC Because as much as I like the field, good 361 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: story in Sean Payton trying to dig into the lore, 362 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: I think it's really hard to win with your backup 363 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: quarterback in this type of game, despite the youth that 364 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: the Patriots have. 365 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Patriots in that. And then 366 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: I gotta go. 367 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: With the home team. Man, I guess I'm gonna go 368 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: with the Seahawks, and this just because the home team, 369 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: the environment is just advantageous to be at home in 370 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: the championship game. So Hawks and Patriots running back a 371 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: super Bowl that was epic a few years ago. 372 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did the same, and I'm a confidence not 373 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: super high. I could see either of these games, you know, 374 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: going the other way. But I was looking at it 375 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: from a Seahawks standpoint. I mentioned to you earlier this week. 376 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: Would there be any sweeter ride? I don't know if 377 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: the team that you were on went Super Bowl, Buck, 378 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: or the two of them that you were on around 379 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: went to Super Bowl. The uh the path if you 380 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: can go division rival, division rival and a chance to 381 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: avenge a Super Bowl loss, like, that's what the path 382 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: could be for the Seahawks. 383 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, it'd be cool. 384 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: I will say this, it would also be cool in 385 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: terms of Mike McDonald being able to get it done, 386 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: John Snyder being able to do it his own way. 387 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: I think there would be some lessons to learn from 388 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: the team building process in terms of like how they've 389 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: been able to do the reset, the refocus and refresh 390 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: of the brand for the Patriots is how quickly Mike 391 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: Rabel would be able to turn it around. And having 392 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: dug into it because this time of year made you 393 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: dig into all the stories, having looked at kind of 394 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: like the docu series that the Patriots have put out 395 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: about the connectivity and how intentional he was and you 396 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 3: know it because like a friend to show John Gordon 397 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: how they use it's now the four hs DJ we. 398 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Used to know, I saw the extra H. 399 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: How about that? 400 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 3: The extra H is But the connectivity that they have 401 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: in at a time where we talk about team building 402 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: and so much of its like players and development, you 403 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: forget the relationships and how important it is. I think 404 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: the common thread between all of it is the importance 405 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: of building those relationships, getting those right before you even 406 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: dive into the x's and o's and whatever you're going 407 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 3: to do schematically. 408 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: I think it's smart teams that are doing that, man, 409 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: And there's so many that don't. And the players don't 410 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: know each other. You can't love someone and want to 411 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: play for them if you don't know them. It seems 412 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: common sense, but I've been around a lot of teams 413 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: that guys don't know each other. 414 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 3: We want to get right to this game. We're going 415 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: to put the balls out there. We want to do 416 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: all this other stuff when it's really important. The connectivity 417 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: really really matters. And you can't tell me why, but 418 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 3: there's something to do it. You can see it when 419 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 3: the teams play for one another, they just play at 420 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: a higher level. 421 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: All right, we're looking forward to those games. This was 422 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: a little mini episode here just previewing those. Next week, 423 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: we are off to All Star Games. Buck, You'll be 424 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: at the East West. I'll be at the Senior Bowl. 425 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: We'll find a way to get some episodes out there 426 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: to people. We'll start talking about what we're seeing there, 427 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: and we'll know who who's gonna be playing in the Super 428 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Bowl in Santa Clara, so we'll have some thoughts there 429 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: as well. Dock have have a wonderful weekend, man, I 430 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: Joy the football. We'll see you next week. Here I'm 431 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: with the sticks.