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Speaker 1: basically his career might be over. I mean, if we're

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Speaker 1: giving a kid a shot, which is not something that

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Speaker 1: I expected them to do. There were some reports last

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Speaker 1: That would leave Jamai Jones as the Yankees utility player.

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Speaker 1: But in calling up Ben Rice, who has been torching

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Speaker 1: Actually it might have been it might have been Gene

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Comparing Ben Rice to Jeter, but i am comparing how

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Speaker 1: you treat young players when they get called up. It's

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Speaker 1: by the way, gonna have Eric Kratz on with the

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Speaker 1: postgame show. But let's take a look at ben Rice's

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Aaron Boone will start him right away,

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Speaker 1: we're in so four bets, all right, So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, he hasn't hit for power over the

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Speaker 2: But I say you throw him in the lineup.

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Speaker 1: I I you know, I know it's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, we've seen him play right field, We've

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Speaker 1: Cutting it, ben Rice is gonna get an opportunity to play,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, let's take a few.

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Speaker 1: Calls here as we get excited for this great series

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Palm Coast, Florida. I think that's ridiculous. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: saying Trevino's pop time exposed, the Red Sox exposed the Yanks.

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Speaker 3: That's a line of craft. Come on, the Red Sox

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Speaker 4: They have no other way to play.

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Speaker 1: Got I got bad news for you, though. The Orioles

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Speaker 1: at Jose Travino's metrics. Now, he's obviously not had a

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Speaker 1: It's not just the pop time, it's the caught stealing

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Speaker 2: He's hitting two seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: He's got eight home runs in one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: I mean, those are really good numbers.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm worried about the defensive side of things.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna stop you at greatest baseball player

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: He hit, you know, forty eight home runs in twenty

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a homegrown Yankee. He was a free agent,

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Speaker 2: So there's a there's a case to be made.

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Speaker 1: But the suspension, the suing the Yankees, that to me

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Speaker 7: But we're just gonna have to figure it out. I mean,

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