WEBVTT - The Worst Tech Industry Products of 2024

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<v Speaker 1>Also media.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, for Jesus, I just spit cigarettes across the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Spit approximately seven cigarette.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a number of them in my mouth. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to it could happen here a podcast about things

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<v Speaker 2>falling apart, and you know what's constantly falling apart? But

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<v Speaker 2>also never Las Vegas, Nevada, where Garrison and I are

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<v Speaker 2>right now reporting on the Consumer Electronics Show, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why I just had seven cigarettes in my mouth. How

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<v Speaker 2>you doing, buddy, great?

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<v Speaker 3>We just lost about twenty dollars at Excalifer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one of the worst hotels on the Strip. Terrible place,

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<v Speaker 2>horrible place. But I smoked a lot of cigarettes there,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not bad. I don't even like them. I

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<v Speaker 2>just like doing things I can't do other.

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<v Speaker 3>Place, like smoking indoors, is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I'm a big fan of it. Other things.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a big fan of innovative technology products of which

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<v Speaker 2>we saw perhaps very few, perhaps three today. What we

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<v Speaker 2>did do is spend seven to eight cumulative hours in

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<v Speaker 2>different roundtable discussions of various industry experts on AI and

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<v Speaker 2>the future they have prepared for us. All we have

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<v Speaker 2>a fun episode coming for you. Are a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>them about AI and what the tech industry wants for

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<v Speaker 2>us all. But because Garrison got too drunk tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, someone got too drunk tonight, and I'm not at

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<v Speaker 2>liberty to discuss who. We're going to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>products today that were just absolute fucking catastrophes. And in

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<v Speaker 2>order to help us talk about that, I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to bring in our pinch hitting guest star slash technological expert,

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<v Speaker 2>Tavia Mora. Tavia, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you like your first cees? As a journalist,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Little different, but I was glad to get into places

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<v Speaker 4>I would not otherwise get into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now, because you are an industry person, he'll build

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<v Speaker 2>that big sphere thing people might know you hate. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you have no journalistic record, which means you and I

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<v Speaker 2>had to have a good time lying to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of strangers today. Was it easy? Yes, it always says,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the beauty allying to strangers. It's never hard. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into the products for the day. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the dumbest and again, folks, there's actually a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of cool stuff we saw. There's some really interesting things.

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<v Speaker 2>This is purely the bullshit. So let's roll on with

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<v Speaker 2>the bullshit. What is our first piece of trash, Guest contestants, Let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just jump straight in and go to the Israel Pavilion.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, You're right, Okay, Tommy, bring me that next

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<v Speaker 2>drink I've got over there in the corner. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you guys are aware, but there's some

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<v Speaker 2>controversy around Israel and a number of other aspects.

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<v Speaker 3>But by far the most agregious crime.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not something we should say, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of problems are e that part of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have a pavilion every year at CEES because

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<v Speaker 2>the country that calls itself Israel has a significant tech industry.

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<v Speaker 2>So we went down there some interesting stuff occasionally, not

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<v Speaker 2>this year. This year it was all trash. And I

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<v Speaker 2>tried one product at the Israel Pavilion and it was

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<v Speaker 2>from the company I Aroma Sense. And I'm been going

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<v Speaker 2>to CEES for about fifteen years now, off and on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like every three years another company is like,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to find a way to add smell to

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<v Speaker 2>your television or gaming experience. First off, I like TV,

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<v Speaker 2>I like video games. Never once have I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>smell them. That has never occurred to me. Garrison, if

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<v Speaker 2>you ever wanted to smell a thing in a video game? No,

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<v Speaker 2>not really, No, No, nobody does. Nobody does, because smell

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<v Speaker 2>is our most finicky sense. Seeing things is even terrible

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<v Speaker 2>things is always interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Right I want to smell my way through Silent Hill too,

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<v Speaker 3>right time, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want to do that. I don't want to smell

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<v Speaker 2>my way through Grand Theft Auto three, Like that's a

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<v Speaker 2>horrible time.

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<v Speaker 4>And also, frankly, Las Vegas is so full of smells,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, we had it. We walked through so

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<v Speaker 3>many just suck egregious odors today.

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<v Speaker 2>So we walk up to this the most controversial year

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<v Speaker 2>for the Israel Pavilion to exist, and the only place

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<v Speaker 2>we stop because I see Irama sense, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. I've tried out every smell product that Cees

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<v Speaker 2>has had in the last decade and change, and I

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<v Speaker 2>sit in front of this one and there's like this

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<v Speaker 2>this thing that looks like a toilet seat attached to

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<v Speaker 2>a computer, and they're like, you sit in front of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you select the smell and you'll you'll experience the scent,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could have this in a video game or

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<v Speaker 2>a picture a friend or a lover sends you. So

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<v Speaker 2>sit down and I look at the menu and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the options is P and E. S Who doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>like an iced p and e? Right, So I select

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<v Speaker 2>it and I could shot in the eyes and nose.

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<v Speaker 2>It burns. There's alcohol in there. It's like somebody maced

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<v Speaker 2>me with perfume. Like it was not subtle. It was

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<v Speaker 2>not like an elegant experience. It was like somebody It

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<v Speaker 2>was like Homer Simpson's makeup shotgun but perfume. That is

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<v Speaker 2>how I would rate the Iroma Sense company.

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<v Speaker 3>The product. I think Iroma Sense is the is the company.

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<v Speaker 3>The product is called Centacon. They make social media even

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<v Speaker 3>more of a sensational experience. So I think a big

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<v Speaker 3>part of their pitch was you can link this up

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<v Speaker 3>to your phone like text messages or something like Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>or Instagram, and then get sense blasted at your face

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<v Speaker 3>via what's on Twitter, which sounds like, again, an awful time.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this is an awful time. This company's doomed.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a version of this that can succeed, and it requires

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<v Speaker 2>more advanced nanotechnology than we have. But nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to send a nice smell to a loved one.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody wants to be able to send a nice smell

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<v Speaker 2>to a friend. When people do want you're like out

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<v Speaker 2>in the world and you see a dead animal somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>that fucking reefs, or you walk past part of a casino,

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<v Speaker 2>as we did earlier tonight, it smells like an elderly

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<v Speaker 2>person has been soiling themselves as a slot machine for

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<v Speaker 2>eleven hours, and you just you need someone you care

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<v Speaker 2>about to know, right, that's the market. And if I

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<v Speaker 2>could actually record a smell and said it, that's a product,

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<v Speaker 2>That motherfucker's a product.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine the scent based podcasts we could develop.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, when I do it, when I finally

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<v Speaker 2>do the episode on Nicholas Cage, you could smell him

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<v Speaker 2>as I talk about him.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what what's that? What's the next silly product we

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<v Speaker 3>should talk about? And we'll talk about talking talking dogs?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe yeah, absolutely, Yeah. So there's this company. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a teaser where they've liked tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>make your dog talk or something that would make your dog,

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<v Speaker 2>cat and horse. They did not promise cats and horses.

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<v Speaker 2>When we interviewed them, No, this is a company that

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed like a nonsense product. I'm still I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's eighty percent nonsense. But like what it actually is

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<v Speaker 2>is there were a couple of college students there who

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<v Speaker 2>specialize in animal behavior, and they had taken a group

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<v Speaker 2>of I think it was fifty five was then they

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<v Speaker 2>give us dogs over six months and like exposing the

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<v Speaker 2>different stimuli and recorded their body images and built basically

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<v Speaker 2>like an AI model off of that, so that if

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<v Speaker 2>you send in a picture of a dog, it'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how the dog is feeling, and they hope to

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<v Speaker 2>get it to visual I don't think at the moment

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<v Speaker 2>it's near where it would need to be to be

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<v Speaker 2>a viable product, and they're also not selling it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe something will come of this. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things where objectively, would there be a use in people

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<v Speaker 2>being able to determine if a dog does or does

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<v Speaker 2>not want them to get closer. Yes, it would stop

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people from getting bitten by dogs, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of dogs from getting unreasonably punished for biting

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<v Speaker 2>people who are fucking with them. Right, I agree with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think anyone who is the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>person who is going to get bitten by a dog

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<v Speaker 2>because they touch a dog that doesn't want them to

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<v Speaker 2>get touched, is going to use an app to check

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not that dog is angry at them. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I simply don't believe in that is a thing that

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<v Speaker 2>people will do. So I feel like it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>doomed effort for science. Sure, the end in quest of

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<v Speaker 2>mankind to understand our fellow sentient beings on this planet

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<v Speaker 2>is valuable, but I don't think it's about valid product idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think mostly my problem is that the framing

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<v Speaker 3>of the marketing is incredibly misleading. Yes, it's not trying

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<v Speaker 3>to make your dog talk. It's about analyzing the facial

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<v Speaker 3>expressions of your dog to conduct emotions, which is actually

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<v Speaker 3>a great product. I think we saw stuff like that

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<v Speaker 3>here at CES last year as well.

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<v Speaker 2>There they always try to see this every couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years too. Someone's gonna We're going to teach you what

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<v Speaker 2>your dog means when it does something, CAD means or whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this brings me to a sad part of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a company called tact Ai. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>Korean and they had the best branding of likerch not

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<v Speaker 2>merch of like shit. They held out. They had like

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<v Speaker 2>a fake passport and a fake plane ticket to take

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<v Speaker 2>you to the land of Ai. Woo. AI is the

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<v Speaker 2>big thing at this at this show. And their product

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<v Speaker 2>was It's an app that while you're driving, it watches

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<v Speaker 2>your face and it tells your mood and it gets

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<v Speaker 2>to know you and it knows. Oh, now you're sad,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pick from your sad playlist. Oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>raining outside, I know what you like during rainy days. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the fake plane ticket from Las Las Vegas Airport

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<v Speaker 2>to the AI world. They put more effort into this

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<v Speaker 2>than the product because the product would switch randomly between

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<v Speaker 2>happy and angry and neutral. They told me it couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>read me with a mask, But when I took my

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<v Speaker 2>mask off, it gave me the same results. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no difference whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when I had done it, I had to over

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<v Speaker 4>exaggerate my emotions in order to get the angry expression

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<v Speaker 4>to show up or the surprise expression.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just a horrible For one thing. When you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about like the animal thing, people have always wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>know more about how their dogs and cats actually felt

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<v Speaker 2>about them. Right, That's the thing that's that will always

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<v Speaker 2>perplex mankind because we love them and we don't speak

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<v Speaker 2>the same language. No one has ever wanted their car

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<v Speaker 2>to change the music based on their facial expressions. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not a single not one person who has ever driven

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<v Speaker 2>a car has wanted this product to exist.

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<v Speaker 3>I mentally, you're like almost get into a car accident.

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<v Speaker 3>Your faces is up that they changed the music and

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<v Speaker 3>they can play like this like somber tune.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a horrible idea, but you know it's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Of folks, speaking of products, services, all the things that

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<v Speaker 2>support this podcast, why don't you go go on a

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<v Speaker 2>head on down, just go to who whoever advertises next,

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<v Speaker 2>call your bank and wire transfer everything in your bank

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<v Speaker 2>account to them. You know, just do it, Just do

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<v Speaker 2>it right now. Just do it right now, and say Kara,

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<v Speaker 2>Robert or send it to me. If you're rich, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care unless you're rich, then send it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night. Oh we're back. Wow, what a great podcast

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing. What's our next product on the agenda?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think climate change is the problem that

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<v Speaker 3>we talk about on this show quite quite a little is.

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<v Speaker 2>It because I had a conversation with a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>said that he thought it was a lie.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you today?

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<v Speaker 2>I had a conversation a couple of weeks ago with

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<v Speaker 2>a firefighter.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh great, Well, I think the firefighter will be quite busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he sure is going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think there's a possibility that we might be

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<v Speaker 3>able to just solve a change with personal wearable technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, yes, absolutely, Oh, Silent Cicada that offers a solution. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is a god. I think this was part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Korean h No, no, it's Chinese. This was

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Chinese chunk of the Eureka Park, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like where all the little people, little companies and

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<v Speaker 2>whatnot not the whole bunch of tech startups. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>the all of the coolest stuff is there and all

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<v Speaker 2>of the worst shit is there, which is why that's

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<v Speaker 2>where we started, right. So this is a company where

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<v Speaker 2>they brag it's a personal watch sized worn like a

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<v Speaker 2>watched air conditioner. The company is called Silent Cicada, which

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<v Speaker 2>makes me think of the book Silent Spring, which was

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<v Speaker 2>about how all of our pesticides are killing everything, which

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not the branding they want, but it's a The

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<v Speaker 2>form factor is actually quite nice. It's like it is

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<v Speaker 2>like a watch. It has this like the frame of

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<v Speaker 2>the watch lifts up and that's the battery and you

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<v Speaker 2>can switch them out or whatnot if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep it going and and stay charged with this personal

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<v Speaker 2>air conditioner. Here's the problem. Doesn't work. It doesn't do

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<v Speaker 2>a single thing. And it was one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>where I see it's a single side hand watch and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, because this is just kind of cool down

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<v Speaker 2>my hand. I feel like, if you wanted a cooler

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<v Speaker 2>person now, based on what I know from like medical

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<v Speaker 2>training about heat stroke, if you want a cooler person

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<v Speaker 2>down who's overheating back of the neck, right, like that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be your go to, not maybe the wrist.

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<v Speaker 2>But he puts this thing on and he like pushes

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<v Speaker 2>it down. He's like, in a couple of minutes, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>notice that you'll you're a lot cooler. And I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how does it work? And like I'm not an expert

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<v Speaker 2>on an a of this. I was expecting him to

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<v Speaker 2>say something like, well, the way your body's heat regulation,

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<v Speaker 2>you can trick it by doing this or then he's

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<v Speaker 2>like no, no, No, it's an acupuncture thing. This is

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<v Speaker 2>where like your accupuncture point to cool your body down is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, well, all right, I guess we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>if it works.

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<v Speaker 3>And I first thought it was like like a tiny fan,

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<v Speaker 3>but that is not the cake.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope. As far as I can tell, it does nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is what it did to me in the

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes I had it on is nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And you really humor the guy like you do not

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<v Speaker 3>just put it on for like a minute then walk away.

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<v Speaker 3>You you were, you were with him for a solid,

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<v Speaker 3>a solid run guitar I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in acupuncture because I've done had it

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<v Speaker 2>done to me When I had I had a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who convinced my parents it would cure my allergies, and

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<v Speaker 2>it did not. It did nothing at all. But my

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<v Speaker 2>grandpa who had Parkinson, suffered terribly from it. And the

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<v Speaker 2>only thing of all of the different shit we tried

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<v Speaker 2>with his, like fucking Vasha, the only thing they give

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<v Speaker 2>him a relief was acupuncture. So I'm not a believer,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm open to the possibility. But I can say,

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<v Speaker 2>based on my own experience, this shit did nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what I can say. About this fucking thing

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<v Speaker 2>is it did not a goddamn thing. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that's I was disappointed. I would level watch sized

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<v Speaker 2>personal air conditioner, but I cannot imagine the more more

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<v Speaker 2>useless product than the one that I tried.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that just doesn't When you say a watch

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<v Speaker 3>size personal, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course that's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>makes like a jacket that air can Yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 2>see how that could work. It could clear down. It's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also, by the way, folks, I'm not saying I

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<v Speaker 2>think cupuncture works. I'm just saying I'm open to some

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<v Speaker 2>magical thinking in this realm because of what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>somebody I cared about. But it didn't work. So don't

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<v Speaker 2>buy this acupuncture air conditioner. Watch. It will not help you.

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<v Speaker 2>Silence Cicada doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we did a lot of walking today. There's

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<v Speaker 3>CS is pretty big, The Las Vegas Convention Center is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty large, The Venetian is pretty large. And I like

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<v Speaker 3>to stay fit. Sometimes I go on jogs, sometimes they

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<v Speaker 3>go running, and sometimes I work.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is a bit. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing a bit. I don't know, maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 2>your face.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm being followed behind me, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a bit great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, when I'm jogging and I wish there's a product

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<v Speaker 3>that made me feel safer when jogging that could alert

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<v Speaker 3>me if there's like a stalk.

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<v Speaker 2>So, by far of us, the person who has well

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<v Speaker 2>at least the best situational awareness relative to mays Tavia.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're in this little room. I guess you were

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<v Speaker 2>there too, and you didn't. I'll give the crown to

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<v Speaker 2>Tavia for this. There's a there's a booth. It's all booth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all these weird cubicles, right, and each cubicle will

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<v Speaker 2>be like sometimes it's a company. Sometimes it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>a dude with his invention. And one of the booths

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<v Speaker 2>we could see from the corner of our eye a

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<v Speaker 2>white all caps piece of paper stapled to it that

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<v Speaker 2>just said don't get attacked from behind.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I think it was written in comic sans.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been comic SAMs. I posted the picture

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<v Speaker 2>online if it's not in my scream at Tavia for

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<v Speaker 2>being a liar. Wow, wow, wow, I that's that's quite

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. Like you see a sign at a at

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<v Speaker 2>a convention like that that says, never get attacked from behind.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to know what it's about.

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<v Speaker 4>So we went and the promo video for it was

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely incredible. It started with about ten to fifteen seconds

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<v Speaker 4>of your typical emotion graphics, typography kind of animating on

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<v Speaker 4>and off, and then we get to a live action

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<v Speaker 4>portion where we see a woman putting on and setting

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<v Speaker 4>up there. I guess some technology I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly the name of the produce a harness. That's a harness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got like yellow that like lights up when it's

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<v Speaker 2>under a light. It's like a it's like a runner's

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<v Speaker 2>harness with a little bitty square sized camera. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>the size you know how food carts will have those

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<v Speaker 2>little squares. You plug them into the phone, you run

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<v Speaker 2>your card through. It's about that size, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>camera and it goes on the back of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Harness, right, And so we see this woman setting that

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<v Speaker 4>up on her phone and then going on a jog.

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<v Speaker 4>And she's jogging along and then there is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Single there's a rapist. There's a rapist and he's he

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<v Speaker 2>is sitting by the side of the road, leaning against

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<v Speaker 2>a wall, looking pretending to look at his phone and

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<v Speaker 2>he sees the jogger.

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<v Speaker 4>And mind you like, there is literally no one else

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<v Speaker 4>on this path.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>light about it. That is who the characters are in

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<v Speaker 2>this film.

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<v Speaker 4>It's definitely a dude there. And so she passes him, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>very well, and so she runs past him, and then

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<v Speaker 4>he gets up and he starts jogging after in the

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<v Speaker 4>most like limp wristed.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, not fast, not aggressively. Honestly, outside of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that we know from the setting of the scene that

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<v Speaker 2>this man is a sex criminal, there's nothing about his

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<v Speaker 2>run that is aggressive. He looks like an out of

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<v Speaker 2>shape guy doing his best to get into shape, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>for his kids right, to try to live a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit longer, take care of his family. That's how he

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<v Speaker 2>looks in the video. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. And the way that this piece of technology works

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<v Speaker 4>is that if somebody gets close enough to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Back side of you where this talk more about this later, where.

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<v Speaker 4>This can see you, it will send a i think

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<v Speaker 4>an audio alarm to your headphones as well as a

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<v Speaker 4>text message.

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<v Speaker 2>To your phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have it buzz your watch, or you can

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<v Speaker 2>have it like interrupt your music in your headphones. That

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<v Speaker 2>someone is behind you. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>She turns around and she puts out her palm towards him,

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<v Speaker 4>like stop, and he does. He just stares at her

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<v Speaker 4>and then turns run away.

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<v Speaker 2>Shot away. Sure, he runs away. That is the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the interactions.

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<v Speaker 4>The most one of the most bizarre videos I'd ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's so maybe we'll post it. Look find us

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter, find find me at eye right, Okay, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be up there somewhere, probably after me yelling about fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 4>It was clearly advertised towards women. Every picture that I

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<v Speaker 4>saw in that booth was showing a woman jogging.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely understand Number one, not shocked at all that

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<v Speaker 2>women are more likely than men to feel afraid while jogging.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that was interesting to me because they had

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<v Speaker 2>some statistics. I didn't look into the providence of these statistics,

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<v Speaker 2>but one of them was like sixty or seventy percent

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<v Speaker 2>of women are afraid of being hurt while jogging, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Like fifty percent it was it was like ninety percent

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<v Speaker 3>are afraid jogging, yeah, and fifty percent are that they'll

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<v Speaker 3>get physically urged.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of them, a lot of them. A

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<v Speaker 2>part of what's dishonest about that is that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of women are scared of the Yeah, ninety two percent

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<v Speaker 2>of women are scared for the safety w in running.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty one percent are afraid of being physically attacked, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And what that means to me is that because I

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<v Speaker 2>am I run basically every day, and I am scared

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<v Speaker 2>of being injured while running because people are shitty at

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<v Speaker 2>driving and we live in the United States of America

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<v Speaker 2>where everybody has a gigantic car. Anyway, not to miscount that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that's a dishonest a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a dishonest framing that said, I understand that, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a woman, you are at heightened risk while jogging.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a scary thing. I do not think this

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<v Speaker 2>product is going to improve your safety. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>is probably going to piss you off and maybe let

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<v Speaker 2>make you want to run less, which is statistically likelyar

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<v Speaker 2>to have a negative impact on your health because it

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<v Speaker 2>is it just sets off an alarm whenever someone is

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<v Speaker 2>behind you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're detected behind you by an age.

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<v Speaker 2>And like where I run and I run, where a

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<v Speaker 2>place a lot of women run there too. There's always

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<v Speaker 2>someone behind you. That's the nature of running trails.

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<v Speaker 3>Like behind you by like twenty feet, not like right

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<v Speaker 3>behind you, like by a decent amount. And you can

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<v Speaker 3>debate what are good self defense tools blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>Mace is pretty effective for these sorts of scenarios. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think this camera and turning around and holding your

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<v Speaker 3>handout is going to be extremely effective, at least not

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<v Speaker 3>more effective than pepper spray.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was also mentioned that a really large

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<v Speaker 4>dog or a horse.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm correct, they did say horse. They did absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>say horse.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if a horse is picked up by this thing,

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<v Speaker 4>then it would consider it to be an intruder assault.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not exactly sure the term that they would use.

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<v Speaker 2>I just we asked them about all this, just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to clarify because like my first thought was that because

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you ask people stuff like that and they have

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<v Speaker 2>a good answer. Like last year we talked to these

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<v Speaker 2>people who had like this pair of glasses. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>hard of hearing, it auto translates and projects into the

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<v Speaker 2>glasses the language, and so like my first gotcha was, like,

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<v Speaker 2>is this stored anywhere? Because if it's stored anywhere, then

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you're giving someone's conversation to the government. And they

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<v Speaker 2>had an answer to that, which was that like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing stored locally. It's all on the device and

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<v Speaker 2>none of it is saved anywhere. Good answer. Right this question,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, how do you discriminate between someone running up

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<v Speaker 2>behind you for a banal reason like you're on a

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<v Speaker 2>running track and something who's a danger And their answer was, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it all pauses your music and sets off an alarm

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to discriminate it, which is like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>because the whole the tagline is don't look behind you,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, well, then you have to look behind you,

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<v Speaker 2>look behind you. Horrible product. Don't buy this thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand the need. I'm not saying it's not a real need.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a bad product for serving that now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you should buy this product. But there

0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.440
<v Speaker 3>are some products I think you should buy m and

0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 3>that is the products and ser verus is that support

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<v Speaker 3>this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Garrison, this is the first time I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>been proud of you. But right now, right here, right here,

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.360
<v Speaker 2>right now, right now, you know what at like one

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<v Speaker 2>am one, Am one am Wednesday morning, Las Vegas. Garrison

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and I are gonna hug for the very first time.

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<v Speaker 2>But you all listen to these ads. Ah oh man, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>we really we really worked through some stuff there, listeners.

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<v Speaker 4>It was extraordinarily touching. There were tears.

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<v Speaker 2>We're never going to talk about this again, but we are.

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<v Speaker 3>What we are going to talk about is I want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about two AI products before we get to

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 3>the one actually kind of fucked up product. The first

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<v Speaker 3>is this is this Image generation backpacks. I know, we

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<v Speaker 3>god damn it, we're you know, coming back to school

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 3>from winter, right of course, yeah, of course sure, and

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.359
<v Speaker 3>you know your best fashion when you're going back to.

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<v Speaker 2>Show off your memes.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, So what if you had a backpack that not

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<v Speaker 3>only had a very low res led panel on the back,

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 3>but also you could upload whatever you want using the

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<v Speaker 3>power of AI. Of course Robert was able to test out, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>see the power of image of this image generation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a backpack with the screen that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been out of date in two thousand and nine, but

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 2>it can take input from your phone. So I put

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<v Speaker 2>in Tom size more, but not the sex pest Tom

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 2>size more. Now, if you're not aware of this, Tom

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Size Moore sexually assaulted an eleven year old. That's not

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.959
<v Speaker 2>a joke, but I wanted to see what it would return,

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<v Speaker 2>and it gave us a picture of a man who

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<v Speaker 2>did not look like Tom Sizemore. We were baffled. We

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 2>spent some time googling. We figured it out. If you

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.919
<v Speaker 2>google Tom size more with a beard, which we did not,

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.199
<v Speaker 2>that is not what we asked it, you get a

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 2>photo of Tommy Lee Jones that looks exactly like, pretty

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 2>similar what the AI served us. Now, why did it

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 2>give us Tommy Lee Jones with a beard when we

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 2>ask for Tom Size Moore not looking like a child

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 2>sex predator? Maybe because that's so Tommy Lee Jones is.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Tommy Lee Jones is Tom Size Moore if he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a child sex predator. That's what the AI said,

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<v Speaker 2>and who are we to doubt it now?

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<v Speaker 3>I did also attest David Lynch smashing smashing a computer,

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 3>which was.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty Was it pretty accurate? That one worked out?

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<v Speaker 3>Again, this is a pretty gimmicky product. I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know how much they were selling it for Happy Side

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 3>AI backpack. It is a gimmicky product, and we made

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<v Speaker 3>fun of it. I will say this.

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<v Speaker 2>We spent our whole morning in different AI panels. There

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<v Speaker 2>will be more in depth reporting on that later. This

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 2>is our first takes. But of all of the AI

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 2>shit we saw that day, this is the one that

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 2>worked best. Yes, that's true. I will say this. It

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 2>did exactly what it promised.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the other AI products that did not work

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<v Speaker 3>as well, well, I think I think you could take

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<v Speaker 3>it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, hand me that one. So this was

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<v Speaker 2>called God. We something. What we had we head, Yes,

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 2>we had head as in what happens if somebody sucks

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 2>your dick and we as in we work. That's not

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 2>that's not what it. So listener, I want you, as

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you're driving to work your kids in the car speakers

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>at Max. By the way, children, Santa Claus does exist,

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 2>and if you don't get good presence this year, it's

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 2>because he's particularly angry at you. Anyway, we had great product,

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 2>terrible product. It looks like that. It's a it's an

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:45.879
<v Speaker 2>android where its entire face is like a normal human

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 2>face projected on two phones in a T shape, like

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 2>one phone straight, one phone lateral, and then like a crude,

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 2>shitty robot head that can kind of turn and lift

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 2>with a camera above it. There's a to Again, if

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you go to irite okay and scroll down to some degree,

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 2>you can find our post of this. But it's like

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>it's very off putting. It's like an a photoreelistic human

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>face talking on this like weird glitched out face that

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>has like by my count, four different screens right that

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 2>are kind of separated by pieces of metal. So it's

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>billed as your AI friend, that is like the thing

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>that they wrote on the product line that like this

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 2>is going to be your new AI best buddy, And

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 2>so I decided to like talk with it. You stand

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>in a certain line and you ask it questions. I

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>asked it how to make thermite first, and it had

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>a pretty well for first, it.

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Got very confused and totally crashed.

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 2>First half of it went black as soon as I

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 2>am I.

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Think I had to reset the machine. And then he

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 3>tried whispering again, well, how do you make the.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to walk you through my emotional journey listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>First I asked it how to make thermite and it died,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought, that's kind of cool. Did I did

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I trigger some sort of like DHS safe thing that's

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 2>pretty dope if I did. But then it gets it

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 2>back on and it works, so it's not it's just

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 2>a dogshit robot. It did give you some basic ingredient.

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 2>It gave me the bare demons for thermite.

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 3>I did warn you that when making a thermy, I

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 3>make sure you follow proper safety protocols.

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Which I appreciate. That's fair. Next, I asked it if

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to make mustard gas, what would ammonia and

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>bleach be sufficient? And then it said I cannot answer

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>that question for you, And then we got bored and

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>walked away. And then we got bored and walked away.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Went on the next thing, don't buy this. We had

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>terrible product. I don't know why you'd buy it. Do

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 2>you want listener? Have you ever wanted to have the

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 2>disembodied head of a stranger in your house that you

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>could ask questions and get mediocre Google result answers to

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 2>If so, we had. It's like somebody looked at the

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Amazon Alex and was like, you know, what people love

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>about the Amazon Alexa is that it's kind of off

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 2>putting in shitty. What they hate about it is that

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 2>it works relatively quick.

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 3>It's actually useful.

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes unfortunately, let's let's make it more off putting, but

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 2>also slower. That's that's we head. So don't buy any

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>product with head in the name. This continues to be

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 2>a goodbye.

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of heades, you shouldn't say that there was a

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 3>there was a there was a hair growth Oh hell yeah, bro,

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 3>there was there was a hair growth helmet from a

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 3>German startup.

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 2>God it would be the Germans. They have such a

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>problematic history with hair.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I think I think it comes out later this year.

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a company called Niostem. I mean, by all accounts,

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 3>it seemed like it worked based on the data they

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 3>present it to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a hair growth look for.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 3>It was mostly three D printed. There's it just I

0:29:59.360 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 2>If assumption I can't promise that it doesn't work. My

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 2>assumption is that if somebody puts an electronic helmet on

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>that seven days, seven days a week, it's lies. It's lies.

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 2>They say seven days a week, you keep this thing

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 2>on for a half hour and your hair will grow.

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Back in like six months.

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Perhaps that's possible. I don't know. I'm not a dermatologist.

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 2>My assumption is that that's a fucking con and as

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>a note, folks, we don't have a lot of ethics here,

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and it could happen here. We have less of them

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 2>behind the bastards. But one product we will not sell

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 2>is hair growth shit except for DIY HRT.

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Also, we're not going to spec well es the goal.

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 3>Also, we're not selling. We're just going to tell you

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>how to make.

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>If you want to. If you want to teach people

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>how to make HRT, we will host you on this podcast.

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>But we will not take your money. We'll take that's right,

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 2>We'll take some shady gambling companies money. That's true. That's true,

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>And we used to pay for several of our employees HRT.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yes, that's right.

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, what if it's science they mentioned if

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 4>I recall, I think they said something about stimulating stem

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 4>cells in the scalp.

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Does that Yes, that is what they said. Yeah, it

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>seems like your stalp. Scalp's probably full of stem cells.

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you guys, but every day I

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>find a fetus and I just rubbed that shit on

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>my head and that's why my hair is amazing.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of that doesn't really so I want to kind

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 3>of probably close by talking about the most fucked up,

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 3>actually the most fucked up product I saw. There's there's

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 3>other fun products like this, like this handy masturbation device

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.479
<v Speaker 3>from Norway which seemed to work easily.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about that in a future episode. Garrison.

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Garrison got handed straight away an ejaculation condom to masturbate

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>in on the cees floor. We met our only other

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>iHeartMedia colleague there.

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 3>It was great that it was insufferable, but that was

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 3>the first piece of merch I was given, which is

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 3>pretty cool.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 2>They just hand you liquor back my day, and now

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>they get cum sheaths. Unbelievable.

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 3>The most actually fucked up product is from this company

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 3>called mm Guardian. It is a monitoring software for your

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 3>child's smartphone. They also sell smartphones specifically built with this

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 3>software already built in. These products are pretty common, especially

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 3>among like conservative Christians, even even common amongst the more

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 3>like overprotective liberal parents.

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean even we were on the floor. I was

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 4>the one that was approached for this particular product, which

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 4>is what kind of led us to their booth, which

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 4>I think I was specifically targeted for.

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for some reason, did it come right? Up to me.

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they did. They didn't come to me either, just

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>because I might have been dosing myself with kraton from

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>a drop or bottle. You might have been.

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 3>You what, wearing my custom black speed suit.

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, wearing a wearing an outfit that makes

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you look like a ginger solid snake. Yes. Thanks. Tell

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 2>me that's a lie, Somebody, anyone in this room, tell

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 2>me that's not act.

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm blowing.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a good look. I'm not saying it's not anyway.

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 3>This this broughduct, you know, part of part of their marketing.

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Can you can seem very compelling, right, They get it

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 3>alerts this parent's phone if if they detect cyber bullying

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 3>on your kid's app, they detect like explicit images being

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 3>sent to your kids.

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 4>They even had some key phrases that they would watch

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 4>for if somebody was detecting like texting like kys yourself.

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Self harm stuff. You know a lot of this kind

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 3>of stuff. You can you can also block certain sites,

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 3>block a block adult content, you know, just a kind

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 3>of basic printal controls. But there's kind of an an

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 3>underside to products like these, And I asked them about

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 3>that one being that because this is you know, scanning

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 3>all the text messages, all of the stuff from like Snapchat, discord,

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 3>any kind of apps. This could this sort of product

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 3>could also out a closeted kid as gay to their parents,

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 3>to their possibly very likely conservative Christian parents, because that's

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 3>the types of products question. Did not like that question

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.479
<v Speaker 3>at all, But he didn't like my second question even more,

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 3>which is relating to you know, they are marketing this

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 3>product to kind of stop child grooming, to stop child

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 3>sexual exploitation, but most like child sexual assault and child

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 3>sexual abuse happens from within the home. And if we

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.959
<v Speaker 3>have a parent who's constantly monitoring their kid's cell phone,

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 3>this could also be used to like surveil your child

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 3>to see if they're talking about parental abuse, if they're

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 3>trying to send messages to people about this. This is

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.439
<v Speaker 3>a pretty common problem with these sorts of products. And

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 3>I asked the the the CEO or the CTO about this,

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 3>and he did not really like that question. He tried

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 3>to deflect to some sort of vague notion of, oh, well,

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 3>because we care about privacy, you know, we can't build

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 3>in any safeguards if we see anything suggesting this or

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 3>if the if the app sees anything suggesting this, and

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 3>it's it's really up to to we're trying to put

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 3>control back in the parents' hands. And he kind of

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 3>made this like parental rights sort of argument. So this

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.919
<v Speaker 3>is there is a lot of products like this. There's

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 3>a lot of like internet monitoring products. People just recently

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 3>learned about this this conservative product called Covenant Eyes because

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 3>the new Speaker of the house used it.

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>And Covenantize has been around for like twenty times a

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>long time.

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 3>What makes this one interesting is that they're actually selling

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 3>like Samsung smartphones.

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Phone yeah and I with this software built in. And

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I asked them because they are they are fit. They

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 2>said that we were selling an app for a while,

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 2>but you know that could it would work differently depending

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 2>on the phones. We decided to sell a hardware device,

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 2>and so I asked them, is there any branding on

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>this device that would make could clear that people have

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 2>a device that has this software on it. And he

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 2>had this long speech about how you know, for the

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 2>good the best of the relationship. All the child psychologists

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 2>we talked to say that you should tell your kid

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 2>that you have this on there, that you're listening to it.

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 2>But when I he handed me the phone, I'm answering

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the question. Yeah, he handed me the phone, and I said,

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 2>is this the production model? He said, yes, this is identical.

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely nothing, just says it's a Samsung phone. Yep. You

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.839
<v Speaker 2>can lie to your kid very easily with this fucking thing.

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that is.

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 3>That is one product that gave me the most dick

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 3>out of everything we saw today.

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 2>That's the most outside of all of the AI. That's

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the And again, we have a lot on you about

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the AI as a little bit of a spoiler. At simultaneously,

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>perhaps the exact same minute, Garrison made a California State

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Police sheriff furious at them, police chief furious at them,

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 2>and I pissed off a senior executive at Google and

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 2>a senior AI executive at McDonald's.

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 3>On two sides of Las Vegas and simultaneous pedals the

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 3>same times.

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna hear both of that shit later, But for

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 2>right now, do you want to close? Is there one

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>other you know what, We're gonna have a whole episode

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 2>in the stuff that made us feel happy. I feel

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>like we should talk about one thing that was cool,

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.399
<v Speaker 2>one of the really neat products there and while I'm

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 2>talking about this, my serfs will we'll find it. Do

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>you guys remember in like watching Star Trek, you're like

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 2>fucking reading Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Idea of a

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>universal translator that was like simple and effective and you

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 2>could just like talk into it and so to the

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 2>other one. It would translate your conversations. There's a number

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 2>of ways people are working on for that. I know

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>that there are apps that are to some degree successful.

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 2>There was a company there called Time Kettle that just

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>had a little device. It was about three inches long,

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe in maybe an inch thick, a little bit less

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 2>rectangular prism that there was this guy who spoke Mandarin

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Ice obviously speak English, and we were able to have

0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 2>a perfectly fluent conversation passing this thing, talking to this thing,

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 2>and passing it back and forth, and it would speak

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 2>for us. It worked great. It also has within the

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>body of the machine you can pop it out and

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>it has two different little earbuds. You put one in

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Euro one in the others, and you can walk and

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>talk and it worked really well. I'm not enough of

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>an expert on translation technology to say this is unique,

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.439
<v Speaker 2>but I can say, this is something that, like if

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 2>that I would absolutely buy to travel with. It's a

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 2>really again not saying it's like absolutely unique, because I'm

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 2>not an expert on this, but I was impressed with

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 2>a degree to which it allowed fluent conversation, including the

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 2>use of idioms, and he said it was I tested

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>with Mandarin. We had a decent length conversation that was

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 2>very intelligible. He said it worked with something like forty languages.

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's the kind of thing that makes CS amazing

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>because this was five feet away from the dog shit

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.919
<v Speaker 2>robot face that I asked about thermite. And that's the thing.

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 2>You get this like two people, one man whose dream

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 2>is to connect the world and break the barriers of language,

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>and one man who wants to make a robot that

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 2>makes you hate the world. And both of them are

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 2>next to each other, and there's also free liquor, and

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>by god, CES is a good time the Consumer Electronics show, Tavia,

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 2>How are you feeling about your first one?

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 4>This is my second one, but I'm feeling pretty good.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 4>As a journalist, yes, it was enlightening. I got to

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 4>see things that I did not know that I could

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 4>see as a journalist. And a lot of it was

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 4>very a lot of fluff. I'm being honest.

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's mostly nonsense. And you know, aside from that

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 2>one guy we watched die, nobody died, Garrison. How did

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>you like eating dinner at Maramoto? Pretty good restaurant.

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 3>That's probably the best meal I've had in recent memory.

0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, then that justifies the company expense.

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that was the the food we had tonight,

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.760
<v Speaker 3>and the very long walk back to the hotel.

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Was quite the experience. Well, I wanted to have a

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>fight with you with the Excalibur Hotel's glasses. A fun

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>thing about Vegas. If you're drunk enough, you can throw

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.839
<v Speaker 2>glasses at each other in the street outside and no

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 2>one can get stopped. Some can get angry.

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Times because the glass weirdly doesn't break after it hits

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 3>the Robert Evans.

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 2>That was just Garrison. My glass broke immediately.

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, I think that probably does it for

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 3>us today. We will be back probably tomorrow with more

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 3>just just game changing revolutionary technology.

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Game change of technology. Most importantly, folks, the hotel we're

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 2>staying in right now, which is one step up from

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 2>the cheapest I didn't put Garrison in Circus Circus again.

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 2>They advertised that they have ivs here. So my plan,

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 2>we're going to do the exact opposite of whatever you

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>do to avoid a hangover, and then we're all going

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 2>to get ivs in the morning. It's going to be

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 2>a good time stick around. Oh yeah, Tavia, you have

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 2>anything to plug, you.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 4>Can follow me at ceut Mora on Twitter or x

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 4>depending on your preference there, or you can see my

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 4>work at Taviamora dot com.

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Tavia illustrated both of my books, After the Revolution and

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 2>A Brief History of Ice, and she also made that

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>big weird sphere thing in the middle of Las Vegas,

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 2>so follow her seeut Mora and uh yeah, you know what.

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Until next time, folks, find somebody who looks like they

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 2>might be a robot and just stab them a little bit,

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 2>not in the abdomen where there's pieces a little on

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.319
<v Speaker 2>the arm, Slash them on the arm, you know what.

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 2>That can't hurt anybody anyway, We're done.

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