1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house stuff 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and uh Dina 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: the Dinosaur and Jerry's over there. That's Dinah Dna. Remember that. Yeah, man, 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: that movie Blew Me Away. When I was over old, 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: I was, oh, yeah, that's from the movie, wasn't it. 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was from a parody of the movie Park. Yeah, 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: that's like the educational video they show. I just remember 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: that first, Like, it was amazing when you saw that 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: first shot of the dinosaurs and you know, like because 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: you know that was all brand new, take it for 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: granted out like crappy CG movie that's out today. It 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: was like one of the greatest things anybody's ever done. 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: It in Tony Great. I think they're rereleasing it to 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: like that three D are they? Yeah, the original that 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with Bootleggers. Um, Chuck, we've 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: talked to this before twice. Yeah, we have. Yeah, I 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: think we kind of forged the circle. It already needs 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: to be bigger. Um. Well, we did how Moonshine Works 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: episode one of my all time Favorites tree. If you 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: haven't heard of how Moonshine works episode, do your self 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: a favorite. There's some primo sound design from Jerry. Um. 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: We end up in a still you can believe it? Uh? 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: And what was the other one that we did where 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: we mentioned this too? Uh? Prohibition Yes, ye, yeah, which 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: is another good one which is part of another circle, 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: a tri part episode, prohibition addiction. And uh what was 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: the other one, Oh, rehab. Yes, and everything is so 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: interconnected here, it's all the circle is getting smaller, my friend. 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: It's the's the tree of life, the tree of Life. Okay, so, um, 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: what we're talking about is moonshining, Yes, bootlegging. I have 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: moonshine at my desk right now. Yeah. We discussed just 33 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: drinking it while we were doing this, and we opted 34 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: not to because it's not right. We'd like to do 35 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: things in one take these days, it's like seventeen. But yeah, 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: I mentioned the fan sentis a moonshine and the thank 37 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: you's one of the thank yous we said hello and thanks. 38 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: I remember it's delicious, Yes, it is. Um And specifically 39 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: one of the things we're talking about, um, that we 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 1: just kind of covered a little bit and I think moonshine. 41 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I think it was moonshine. Um was that this really 42 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: amazing thing. I'm not in the NASCAR. I'm not either. 43 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: I had a spell you did, yeah, like one year 44 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: and then it just went away. It is one of 45 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: the world's biggest sports. Um popular popular wise u um. 46 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: People love to see the cars go around in the circle, 47 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: not always just in the circle. I'm not. That's true 48 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: at the road races, that's true. Um. And I'm not 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: into NASCAR, as I said, but I have a tremendous 50 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: amount of respect for the sport because it was directly 51 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: created by moonshiners, bootleggers running moonshine lad not you know, 52 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: indirectly exactly. They literally met and founded the National Association 53 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: for Stock Car Auto Racing. Like that's where NASCAR came from. 54 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: One of the one of the pre eminent owners racers 55 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: and then owners, Junior Johnson, did a year in jail 56 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: for bootlegging. Yeah, Wilkes. He's from Wilkes County in North Carolina, 57 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: which was like one of the hotbeds the bootlegging. And 58 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: by no surprise, it is also North Carolinas, like the 59 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: center of NASCAR it's not a coincidence. No, it's not. 60 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: So let's talk about this this whole thing, Like where 61 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: what were people bootlegging for? I mean, like, I know, 62 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of like if you want it done right, 63 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: do it yourself. But when it comes to making booze, 64 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of really good booze out there, 65 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: why not just spend the money. Well, this was happening 66 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: in the rural South. A lot going on back then. Um, 67 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: on the heels of the Great Depression hit the South 68 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: really hard because um, there weren't factories to go to 69 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: work too afterwards or during and the mills were shut down. 70 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: The mills were basically the economic engine to the South. Yeah, 71 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: so farming is drying up to a certain degree. There's 72 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: prohibition going on. That's a big one. So it's basically 73 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: prohibition and the Depression of the two big factors that 74 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: led to rise. Right, So we need to Even after Prohibition, 75 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: the South still had a lot of dry counties, and 76 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: to this day still has dry counties. It is crazy, 77 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: twelve like two thousand and there are dry counties. Was 78 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: it two twelve or two and eleven? When Georgia voted 79 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: or let cities vote to repeal the the Blue Law 80 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: for Sunday Sunday sales. Like, just this year Georgia got 81 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Sunday sales. There's like a Mars Curiosity rover on the 82 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: planet Mars taking pictures of a of us not buying 83 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: beer on Sundays. It's crazy. It is crazy. Um. But yes, 84 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: So even after prohibition gets repealed, a lot of southern 85 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: counties were like, well, you know, you can't tell us 86 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: what to do, Johnny Law. We're gonna we're gonna stay dry. 87 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: And a lot of bootleggers were like, okay, well I 88 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: can still sell to these counties. And it happened to 89 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: have one Sweet Ride. I don't have a lot, but 90 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: I got a Sweet Forward with a ambulance engine in it, right, 91 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: and it goes really really fast. Cadillac ambulance engine. Yeah, 92 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: that was one of the mods that they would do 93 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: to make these things faster. So you needed this car 94 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: not just to show off, but because if you were 95 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: selling in Dry County, the federal government really couldn't have 96 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: cared two bits whether you were not. Yeah. Most of 97 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: the time, though, if you were smart at all, you 98 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: weren't reporting these sales on your taxes. Yeah, I read 99 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: that had more to do with it than anything I 100 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: would was they didn't want to pay taxes. I mean, 101 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: it had to do with prohibition all that stuff, but 102 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: it was really like, you know what, we were making 103 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: the stuff ourselves, selling it to people across county lines, 104 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: like why should I give the federal government a piece 105 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: of that? Well that that um, not just whiskey making 106 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: or moonshining, but also the idea that you shouldn't be 107 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: paying taxes on that predates the United States. I'm like, 108 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: the Whiskey Rebellion was the that that actually came after 109 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: the United States, but moonshining came before. But the whiskey 110 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: Rebellion the first the one of the first things George 111 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 1: Washington had to deal with was because of taxing corn liquor, 112 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: which is it's an American tradition, don't tax our booze um. 113 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: So all these factors add up to, uh, either it's 114 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: your family business and you're maybe fifteen, but you've been 115 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: driving the truck on the farm since you were eight, 116 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: and the tractor so you're like in the South, it 117 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, you don't have a license yet. You know, 118 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: we shouldn't let you behind the wheel of a car. 119 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, are you old enough to reach 120 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: the pedals? Or we have wood blocks? Yeah, exactly like 121 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: the kid in uh oh Brother Where Art? Though you 122 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: didn't like that one right now, I like that? Okay, 123 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: that kid and then all the wood blocks right in 124 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: short round from Templar Doom Oh yeah, the good Indiana 125 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: Jones movie or one of them? Yeah, one of two, 126 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: one of three? Yeah, I would the fourth one right, yeah, 127 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: I would put that third in the list, though, I 128 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: would go Raiders, then Last Crusade, then Temple of Them 129 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: and then I don't even count the last one. So um, 130 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Either you're in the family business and they're like this 131 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: kid can drive or you can drive, and some other 132 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: families like, hey that you know that Clark kid, he 133 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: can get on it in that forward, let's get him 134 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: to run the shine and so also, you got a 135 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: job that pays you dough. But it's not just paying 136 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: your dough. It's also extremely thrilling. Yeah, and a lot 137 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: of bragging rights going on when you're out running cops. 138 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: It's it's like the Dukes of Hazzard. Can we just 139 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: go and say it? Yeah? It is. I mean you 140 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: can't read this article without thinking bone Luke, Duke, Bone, 141 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: Luke Duke. You know what's crazy is not onstead? I 142 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: think of really how man? The whole time I was like, 143 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: this is the Dukes of Hazzard. Were they moonshiners? No? 144 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: But it was the same thing, like juicing up your car, 145 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: beefing up the suspension and the engines so you can 146 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: outrun the local cops and you know, you know all 147 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: the back roads. All right, I don't want to give 148 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: away too much, Okay. So, um, we've got the depression 149 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: thing and unemployment in the South, and then we also 150 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: have prohibition, and these things are coming together, and so 151 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you've got fourteen year olds who 152 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: know how to operate cars out running cops and revenuers, right, 153 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: the revenuers. So there was a revenuer named John Carter, 154 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: and he became a great source of mars. Now okay, 155 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: different John Carter. Uh. He became a great source from 156 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: the laws side. He was one of the guys chasing 157 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: these people, and he was the source for um that 158 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: fourteen year old quote about how like by the time 159 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: these kids are fourteen, not starting when fourteen they're driving 160 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: by the time their fourteen. He said they could outraw 161 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: any law man he knew, and he was one of 162 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: the lawmen. Yeah. And so one of the ways they 163 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: did it was, like you said, was by modifying uh 164 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: stock cars, right, Like taking a Ford coupe and putting 165 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: a Cadillac ambulance engine in it. Do it um, switching 166 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: you know engines between makes. Right. So like apparently Chevy 167 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: engines are easier to modify than forwards. So you might 168 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: have a forward car with the Chevy engine, um, and 169 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: they'd say that if you see it. Go to one 170 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: of these auto shows today, some of these old twenties 171 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: and thirties forwards will still have Chevy engines in them. 172 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: Well that's where hot rods came from. To it's just nastcar, 173 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: but hot rods and like that whole hot rod thing 174 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: in the in the California in the sixties, straight out 175 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: of bootlegging moonshine with cars. That's pretty cool. Um. So 176 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: the revenuers I don't think we specified there. They were 177 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: the tax guys, yeah, who came to collect and they 178 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: were they were Feds, the Alcohol Tax Unit. Yeah, Like 179 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: they were sending these guys in from like New Jersey 180 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: and New York to these rural southern towns, and Bow 181 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: and Luke were like, bring it on. Yeah, you don't 182 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: know these roads like I know. I'm pal. You don't 183 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: know these roads. You don't know your car like I 184 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: know my car because I'm the one who modified it 185 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: in all these crazy ways. I added the turbo charger. 186 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: I brushed out the piston hole cylinder, the piston hole cylinder. 187 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: Is that a common method, brushing the cylinder? I believe? So? Okay, Um, 188 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: they would modify. They would built in custom switches. We 189 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: could turn off your brake lights or your tail lights 190 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: or both. That was a Clay call. It was a 191 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: buddy of Junior Johnson. He did that. So what what 192 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: happens is you're flying down the road behind one of 193 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: these cars at night and let's say the tail lights 194 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: completely go out and they can pull in a little 195 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, like side dirt road, or you're following them 196 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: during the daytime and they're banking on a corner and 197 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: they're hitting the brakes and the cop doesn't realize that, 198 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: so he goes flying into the corner and then he 199 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: smatches into something pretty smart. Yeah it's so basic though, 200 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: you also need really really good shocks and struts, um. 201 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: And the reason why is because the best thing to 202 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: do is to not have to try to outrun the 203 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: cops and just drive right past him and wave like 204 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: you're just a law of Biden citizens, like I don't 205 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: have five pounds of liquor in my trunk exactly, um. 206 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: And that's the whole point of the shocks and struts. 207 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: And also so when you do have to outrun them, 208 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: your car is not just bottoming out on every divot, 209 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: that's true. Um. And if you do get pulled over. 210 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: Another early line of defense was false bottom trunks, um, 211 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: hidden cargo panels, basically just places you could stash flicker. 212 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: That's true. But ah, who wrote this? Was this the grabster? No, 213 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: this was Jamie page Dton jp D uh. As jp 214 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: D points out, cops would eventually get wise to all 215 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: these things as well, and then it came down to 216 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: what would lead to NASCAR, which is I can drive 217 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: better than you, period. So that's like when the banjo 218 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: music would start, exactly when the cop turned on the sir, 219 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: right and like, I know all your tricks, but now 220 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: the race is on. So um, you've got these local 221 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: roads that are often very What is it thunder Road 222 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: in North Georgia. You know there's a place there's a 223 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: road called thunder Road, North Georgia, And I think Bob 224 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: Mitchum was in a movie about it or something back 225 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: in the day, really called thunder Road, I think. But anyway, 226 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: it's like like a lot of people died, especially revenuers, 227 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: because they didn't know like the curves. It was particularly dangerous. 228 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: But those Moonshine boys like knew exactly what they were 229 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: doing and could take these curves. Most of them. A 230 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: lot of Moonshine runners died in their own cars on 231 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: their own roads, just going too fast, too far, too hard. 232 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: But if you were a revenue you're at a greater 233 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: disadvantage because also you didn't know where to double back 234 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: and hide out. Um. And there was a move that 235 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: was created by Junior Johnson called Bootleggers turn, which we've 236 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: all seen. It's where the car goes um one direction 237 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it does a one eight, 238 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: straightens out and drives back the other direction before the 239 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: car that's chasing it can turn around. Bootleggers turn. I've 240 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: never knew that. Yeah, Junior Johnson patented that one, and 241 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: also later on would go on to um I wouldn't 242 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: say an event, I guess discover the drafting, which if 243 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: you don't know what drafting is and car racing, it's 244 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: when and you can experience. This is very dangerous. You 245 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: don't want to try this. But if you get behind 246 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: like a big eighteen wheeler on the highway and you're 247 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: close enough, it often feels like you don't have to 248 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: hit the gas is hard. It's because you don't. You're 249 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: being sucked up into the wind behind it, and it 250 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: breaks the draft and essentially you're in a little vacuum 251 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: getting right up on the car behind you. And in 252 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty I think at the Dayton of Junior, Johnson 253 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: realized this by accident on a practice lap and apparently 254 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: had an inferior car to the rest of the cars 255 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: and won the race based on that technique. And then 256 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: everyone was like, what's June you're doing. We gotta do 257 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: it too, let's name it. So they named it drafting. 258 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: That's weird, you, No, I guess drafting makes sense. It 259 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: does now, But is that just because we know what 260 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: it's called. No, it's like a draft, Yeah, like I 261 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: gets you're right, there's a draft, you know what I mean? Yeah, 262 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: all right, Junior Johnson hardoned too by Ronald Reagan. Yeah, 263 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: because you said he got arrested for not actually bootlegging, 264 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: but just for going to the still one night. Right now. 265 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: He was caught at his daddy's still by John Carter himself. 266 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, when your father has a still in 267 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: the woods, that's daddy, um. You. He was caught at 268 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: his daddy's still, um by John Carter. And he did 269 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: eleven months three days in prison. Um in North Carolina. No, 270 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Chillicothe, Ohio or Chilla Coathee Ohio. Um so, 271 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: but he was caught in with Carolina. But apparently bootleggers 272 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: and whiskey runners had this reputation of being so honest 273 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: that when they were caught. His legend tells, when they 274 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: were caught and sentenced, the judge would frequently let them 275 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: leave um and just go home and be told when 276 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: to meet the prison bus, like meet the prison bus 277 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: March twenty one. And when the prison bus showed up 278 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: like at that stop, the bootlegger would be sitting there 279 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: waiting for the bus to take it to take them 280 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: to prison. They were known to be that that uma 281 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: despite their illegalities. Yeah, well that was I think one 282 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: of the reasons why Tom Wolfe called the North Carolina 283 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Wilkes County specifically bootleggers the last the last American heroes 284 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: because they were kind of I mean, they were against 285 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: the law and they would like kill revenuers, but they 286 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: were also very honest in their dealing when they were caught. 287 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Did he say, didn't you should point out there was 288 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: a movie coming out about this. Yeah, there's a movie 289 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: called Lawless, and it's based on a book called The 290 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: Wettest County in the World. Yeah. I saw. The original 291 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: name of the movie up until this year was Wettest County. Yeah, 292 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: which I have to men's pretty bad. No, it's gotta 293 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: be wettest county in the world, like the wettest County 294 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: in the world. And it's about a county in Virginia. 295 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I can't remember which one. Um and the They changed 296 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: the name to Lawless and Nick Cave wrote the script. 297 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: He is awesome and like every way Um and Guy 298 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: pierces in it. He plays the Treasury revenue guy. That's 299 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: Nick Cave with a V. By the way, not in 300 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: Nick Cage. Yeah, okay, Nick Cave of Bad Seeds Fame, Yeah, exactly. 301 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: Um and shy La Buff to bring it full circle 302 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: from Crystal Skulls. Yeah, I don't think we should bring 303 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: things full circle of the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls. Right. 304 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: You know that's two consecutive episodes where it just came 305 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: up organically. Yeah, strange, but yeah, Lawless is coming out 306 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: this month. The recording this the twenty nine I believe. Yeah. 307 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: I can't wait because I was thinking, I think I 308 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: told you this morning when I was reading this, I 309 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: was like, man, why haven't they made a movie about this? Well, 310 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: my friend, they have looking forward to it. Um, all right, 311 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: so where are we world War two? Yeah? What's what? 312 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: Why isn't this still going on? And by the way, 313 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: this this article is not correct, said that they were well, 314 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: they were running whiskey well into the seventies. Clay call 315 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: who's Junior Johnson's bff forever, Um, he was doing it 316 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: in the eighties really into the eighties. Yeah, And it 317 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: was the um, the rise of the chicken farming, like 318 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: mega chicken processing plants that converted all of these former 319 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: corn liquor distillers into chicken farmers because it's it was 320 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: just more lucrative, and they're like, well not, I'll raise 321 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: chickens then. Interesting. But he was into the eighties. He 322 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 1: said that one of his cars a an old New 323 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: Yorker from the sixties that he said, um the writer 324 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: of this hot Rod Magazine article called something that I 325 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: like doctor a lawyer would would um use would drive. 326 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: But it was like one of his prize possessions because 327 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: that thing would just haul to He modified it. He 328 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: said that he um their bullet holes in it from 329 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: the eighties. So he was like real deal, seriously doing 330 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: this into the eighties, because I mean his car got 331 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: bullet holes in the nineteen eighties from bootlegging. When I 332 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: was smoking the band it that was seventies. Yeah, but 333 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: he wasn't. He was just he just couldn't drivetive. No. 334 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: They were smuggling beer. I don't remember that. Yeah, of 335 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: course that was what they were doing. Remember the big truck. 336 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know that full of course beer, illegal course beer. Yeah. 337 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: Back then the course was only out west and they 338 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: wanted some in Georgia. Oh, so they sent Smokey Uh 339 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: Sarcana and Jerry Reid to get the truck load of 340 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: course beer to bring it back in like twenty four 341 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: hours or something. Yeah. Um, okay, So flash forward a 342 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: bit um in the thirties, forties and fifties, I guess 343 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: not forward. We're kind of right there in the middle. Um, 344 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot going on entertainment wise in the 345 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: rural South. Didn't have a movie theater, sometimes didn't have 346 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: a mall, didn't have a lot to do. So they 347 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: would clear out fields and make dirt track race tracks. 348 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: Well farmers would, yeah, it make some cash off of it. Yeah, 349 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: because sort of like Field of Dreams, except they would 350 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: build a race track. You know, if you build it, 351 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: they will come and like um Days of Thunder, except 352 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: in a farm field. And dirt track was huge. I 353 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: mean it's still big. People still race on dirt tracks. 354 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: But Junior Johnson apparently said that he never got on 355 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: pavement when he was bootlegging. He's like, you have a 356 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: ten to one better odds of losing the cops on 357 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: a dirt road because these cops, I mean, not only 358 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: did they not know the roads in the South, they 359 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: were not used to sliding around on dirt roads. And 360 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: these guys are just like you know, professional uh drifters, 361 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: not Tokyo drifters. Tokyo drifters, not hobo drifters. Um. So, 362 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: all right, while this is going on, you've got these 363 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: southern towns and farmers building these dirt tracks, making a 364 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: little scratch but also kind of making a name for 365 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: car racing, like this is kind of a new thing. Yeah, 366 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the Indie was around and all that, but 367 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: these this it wasn't kind of big in the South. 368 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't think was it. When did that start of 369 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: Formula one racing? I should say that was the earliest 370 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: auto racing was like maybe or they were racing like 371 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: Mercedes and stuff like that, but stock car racing was 372 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: very much new to the South. Well it was, and 373 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: then you know, eventually bootlegging dried up and these people realize, 374 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: you know what in n they got together in Daytona, Florida, 375 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: uh and said let's make this like a legit thing, 376 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: Like we think there's money to be made here. You 377 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: guys can drive really fast. These stock cars aren't that 378 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: much money because back then it was stock car racing. 379 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: Like that was the whole point was we want to 380 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: have the fans identify with these people by driving a 381 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: car just like they could drive. Yeah, it was all 382 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: on the driver, yeah, because it was like you weren't 383 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: allowed to modify, and any amountifications you could do very 384 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: slight and they were really heavily regulated and it was 385 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: all about your driving skills. And they did decide to 386 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: go that route because it was, like you said, a 387 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: common bond between the fans and the driver. Yeah, you know, 388 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: like well and it's still driving the same car. Yeah, 389 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean that that brand loyalty is still huge. Yea. 390 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: You know the Chevy guys and the Ford guys, like 391 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: they don't they stick with the car more so than 392 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: the driver even. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. Um. Of course 393 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: now they're much more modified. But back in the day 394 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: it was called strictly stock, meaning you know there s 395 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: S means on some cars. I don't know, wonder you 396 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen that, I don't think so, Yeah you have. 397 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: There's like sometimes like you'll it'll be like a normal car, 398 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: like a Monte Carlo, but it'll say s S or 399 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: something next to it. Oh maybe I don't know what's 400 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: look in at that, or maybe it means like superstock, 401 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: no strict or it means super. But I did find 402 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: an interesting though at the beginning of NASCAR in UM, 403 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: I read this other article where they said that fans 404 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: didn't want like it was sort of a um, a 405 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: slap in the face to have these new cars out 406 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: there being beat up, because it was post World War 407 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: two and it was kind of waste, wasteful to do 408 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: something like that. So that's why they got these stock cars. 409 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: And like a lot of dudes rode in the early 410 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: days would actually rent cars to race, like a car rental. 411 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, they would get just get a rental car, 412 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: and that's where thrift car care exactly. Uh. And it 413 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: wasn't until later on that they like um nifty two, 414 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: I think we're when roll bars were mandated and uh. 415 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Then you know, gradually over the years they became more 416 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: and more modified, although it's still it's still I mean, 417 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: they're modified, but it's still a regular car. It's not 418 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: like digital paddle shifters like an IndyCar like you get 419 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: in a NASCAR car and theoretically you could drive it 420 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: not well no, let mean be surprised. Oh you know. 421 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: Junior Johnson said that it was a letdown to go 422 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: from bootlegging to NASCAR. He said, quote on the race track, 423 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: you're a running to beat someone out on the highway, 424 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: You're a running for your life. Awesome. He is eighty 425 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: one years old now and I just read that he 426 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: is selling his mansion and downsizing and he sells moonshine 427 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: midnight Moon. Oh is that his? Yeah? He can sell 428 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: it like he can bite on the web. And he 429 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: also sells ham and pork crime. I would eat those. 430 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: I would do any other movies you got, No, I 431 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: got too Big Bad Mama bootlegging movie. Yeah, she takes 432 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: over the bootleg in business after her husband dies. Uh. 433 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: And then there's a small it's a small part, but 434 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: it's one of my all time favorite movies. Paper Moon 435 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: I thought was your leg. Yeah, okay, but it has 436 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: a small moonshining park bootlegging park. And I think the movie, Uh, 437 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: did you ever see Thunderbolt and Lightfoot? No? I think 438 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: that had something to do with bootlegging. I might be wrong. 439 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: What about Dirty Mary? Wait, Dirty Larry, Crazy Mary? Was 440 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: that bootlegging? I don't know, but Clint Eastwood was in 441 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: Thunderbolt and Lightfoot and oh, actually no, it wouldn't about 442 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: it wouldn't about menshine, but it was about driving really fast. Yeah, yeah, 443 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I think so, Blue Lagoon. No, it's about six. If 444 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: you want to learn more about Whiskey cars, you can 445 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: type in Whiskey cars with a knee um to the 446 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: search bart how stuff works dot com. I would also 447 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: strongly urge you to listen to our Moonshine podcast or 448 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: prohibition podcast. Uh yeah, and there's articles on the site 449 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: for those two, so you can type those in the 450 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: search parts. See what comes up, I said, search bar. 451 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: This means it's time for a listener mail Chuck. Yes, 452 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: we should tell everybody about something very special and dear 453 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: to our hearts New York City. That's right. We are 454 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: going to Comic Con and we will be doing a 455 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: live podcast on Friday, October twelve at Comic Con at 456 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: the jab At Center. It's like our new thing. We 457 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: did San Diego, now we do in New York. That's 458 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: right next up Albuquerque. So if you are going to 459 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: Comic Con, you should come by and see that. But 460 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: after Comic Con, we have one of our famous it's 461 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: famous to us all Star trivia nights. Um, where is 462 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: it gonna be the cutting room? It is at the 463 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: grand reopening of the Cutting Room in the flat Iron District, 464 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: which is what's the address. It is forty four East 465 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: thirty second Street in New York. And uh, it's in 466 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: the flat Iron you said. And the doors open at 467 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: seven thirty. Trivia goes down at eight thirty. And what 468 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: does first come, first serve? Right? Free, free, free, first come, 469 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: first serve. We will have a bar there that you 470 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: can buy drinks. Yeah, you can buy us drink that's right. 471 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna basically be having a really good time if 472 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: you if you're not familiar with our Trivy nights, like, 473 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: just come out and check it out. It'll be worth 474 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: your while, absolutely, And stay tuned for info on Facebook 475 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: and Twitter about the makeup of the all star team. 476 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: We're filling that out as we speak. But we will 477 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: have some special guests that you will want to meet. Yeah, 478 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: and at the very least you can come take on 479 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: me and chuck right, yeah, okay, it's just fun. So 480 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: what is that that's Friday, October twelfth, right, yep, the 481 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: panels that went The panel is at at least okay, 482 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna be at the cutting room starting 483 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: at eight thirty Trivite starts at eight thirty doors at 484 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: seven thirty. Be there, be square. You were good at this. 485 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: Thank you? All right the time for listener mail. I'm 486 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: gonna call this shark attack man. I have to say, Chuck, 487 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: you're you have to go onto a Twitter account. You 488 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: were getting kudos all over the place for this. People 489 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: love that. Hey, kudos stall that actors. Yes, um, all right, 490 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: shark attack. I just listened to your Shark Attack podcast 491 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: and was thinking about my boyfriend. Uh, you might be 492 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: interested in his happy ending of his own shark attack. 493 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: Kevin is his name. He's from South Africa and he 494 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: was surfing in front of his house one day when 495 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: he was sixteen. Went out of nowhere, a great white 496 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: came up and chopped down on his leg. Shark disappeared, 497 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: and the one friend he was with helped him back 498 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: to shore, which was quite a ways, and then went 499 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: off to the hospital. The doctor patching him up said 500 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: he was really lucky. Specific can figure the top of 501 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: the jaw of the shark went into the leg while 502 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: the bottom never made it through the surfboard, which is 503 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: kind of like that one story we talked about Surpord 504 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: saving the life the doctor thought maybe the shark bit 505 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: him in such a way where the fin of his 506 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: surfboard hit that soft part under your tongue, you know 507 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: that party le and hurt the shark, so it swam away. Um, 508 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: after listening to the podcast, maybe it was just a 509 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: test bite though, and the shark didn't have any follow through. 510 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: Now that we're complained, not we're complaining, of course. Anyway, 511 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: he left with a couple of hundred stitches and was 512 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: back surfing six weeks later. I'm attaching a picture of 513 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: his leg. I'm sorry that it's sideways crazy. And I 514 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: did look and it was the dude's leg that had 515 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: big shark teeth in it. I didn't see that. Well, 516 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: it was good, she said. One more thing. We're talking 517 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: about it just a few weeks ago. And I asked 518 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: him if he punched the shark or anything like that. Um, 519 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: I had a zoo books on shark when I was little. 520 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: I always thought I'd for sure punch a shark. He 521 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: said it was pretty much the last thing on his mind, 522 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: which is kind of what I was thinking. Um. Anyway, 523 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: I loved the podcast. And that is from Bethany and 524 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: Kevin is the boyfriend awesome, the surfer surfing out in 525 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: front of his house that must yeah, congratulations and staying 526 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: alive yes, uh Kevin right, yep. Thanks for the story, 527 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: bethany Um. 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