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Speaker 1: Hey, we got the international man of mystery taking it

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Speaker 1: but before we do, had some coaching news that we

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Speaker 2: We saw what happened in the bubble. They just kind

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Speaker 1: Why not.

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Speaker 2: Unless you want to talk, No, let's do it some Nate. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: No Dunks. I love your podcast. I listen to you

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you who says no? The Pacers say no,

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Speaker 1: The Warriors say absolutely yes, instantaneously, yes, come on, come on, okay.

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Speaker 1: First all, I couldn't believe that this actually checks out,

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Speaker 1: Warren, Well, yeah, you you are holding I mean, Wiggins

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Speaker 3: So yeah, if I'm the Paces, you need way more

430
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 3: than that in return if you're going to give up

431
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 3: those two players. And if you're the Warriors, though, again

432
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 3: you're in a win now mode. So a rookie coming

433
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,680
Speaker 3: onto that team, I'm not sure how much that fits anyway.

434
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 3: So I think the Warriors are definitely looking to move

435
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 3: and get some more veterans, So yeah, I think they

436
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 3: would do that as well. But see, I.

437
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 1: Agree with that. But my point is usually the number

438
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,680
Speaker 1: two pick, wow, I'm intrigued because usually that means I'm

439
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 1: getting a real damn good player. I think it's different

440
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,439
Speaker 1: this year. I think it's a bunch of unknowns and

441
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't have as much value as it

442
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 1: normally would at the number two spot. I think that's

443
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: my point So if I was again Indiana in this scenario,

444
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna need more. I'm just gonna need it.

445
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need another pick. I'm gonna need that Minnesota pick.

446
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 1: Throw it in, all right, top three protected twenty twenty

447
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: one and then unprotected. That's a little juice here, because

448
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 1: now you're looking at drafts down the line, and you're

449
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 1: Indiana and you're rebuilding and all that, and you're moving

450
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: guys anyway, So you would just ask for more. That's

451
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 1: what I think tasks, but you don't mind it well.

452
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 2: I think the Pacers would be inclined to say yes

453
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 2: just because they get that number two pick. Just a

454
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 2: number two pick just doesn't come around very often. I know,

455
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: everybody doesn't know who is going one, two, three, and

456
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 2: there are teams that are thinking, well, maybe we can

457
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: trade down from two to eight and still get our guy,

458
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,879
Speaker 2: because there's just there's so many varying opinions. But if

459
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 2: you want to start a rebuild, like the Pacers sure

460
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 2: seem like they do, if Victor Oladipo is going to

461
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: go somewhere else, if he is not the star that

462
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 2: they thought they had in twenty eighteen when he was

463
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 2: dueling Lebron in a seven game series. Well, then maybe

464
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 2: you got to move on and to get a number

465
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 2: two pick. Look up and down their roster that they

466
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 2: don't have a high pick sitting on their bench. They

467
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: just don't. So yes, I understand that you may not

468
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 2: get a star at the number two pick, but I

469
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 2: think that starts the conversation for this trade because you

470
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 2: may want to move on from TJ. Warren when his

471
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: value is ridiculously high here if you're going to start

472
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 2: the rebuilding and Miles Turner, as solid as he's been,

473
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: he hasn't really impressed to the level that everyone expected to.

474
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know. If I'm the Warriors, I try

475
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: and get somebody else for the number two pick. Yeah,

476
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 2: Miles Turner, A you're gonna have out there guarding Anthony Davis,

477
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 2: I guess, but I don't know's there's big question marks

478
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: on both sides when you look at this deal. And

479
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 2: I know Andrew Wiggins is a question mark in and

480
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 2: of himself for sure, but they're going to give him

481
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 2: a chance to guard some people on the wing. And

482
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 2: Lea saying, you know TJ. Warren in the corner hanging out, well,

483
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins hanging out and being a third option as well.

484
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 2: And you know he can he can play defense? Will

485
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: he Who the heck knows this? I mean, who says no?

486
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: Who says yes? It's a very difficult question.

487
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: How about this trade idea? Then I saw SI dot

488
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: com threw this one out Wiggins the number two pick

489
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: and that Minnesota twenty twenty one pick, because again, I

490
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: think that's gonna have to be included in a lot

491
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 1: of these to Atlanta Lee for Clint Capella and the

492
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: number six pick. Warriors stay in the draft, obviously slide

493
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: down a little bit, so they're gonna be able to

494
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: pick someone that you're gonna have to be nice to

495
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: have a cheap guy on our roster with obviously a

496
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: bunch of money. And you get Clint Capella as you're

497
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: big to pair with all your shooters, a guy that

498
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna then you know, is you're gonna be I

499
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: guess asked to try and guard the Anthony Davison and

500
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that. What do you think of that one? Wiggins

501
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 1: number two pick, twenty twenty one Minnesota pick for Capella

502
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: and the number six pick.

503
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're getting too like high picks basically in

504
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: exchange there for Capella and Wiggins. I think the Hawks

505
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 3: would do that, I mean, because they're at a different

506
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 3: place right now. The only question is Trey Young. We

507
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 3: know was frustrated with front office last year where he

508
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 3: was like, I need some players around me. I want

509
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 3: to start winning. So with that upset him a little bit.

510
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: If you're like, Okay, we're sort of stocking up again

511
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: for next year's draft, and we're getting another high draft pick,

512
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: another guy to develop, so we're going to sort of

513
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: the timeline gets pushed back a little bit further. So

514
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: they may be cautious of that, but in theory otherwise,

515
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: I think, yes, you do that. If the Atlanta Horse

516
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 3: could just accumulate those assets, keep going until you're ready,

517
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: because you've got some good players, there're some good potential,

518
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: but someone like John Collins, I mean, how much better

519
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: is he going to get? And is he guy for

520
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 3: the future, So maybe you can look to sort of

521
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: maybe move him in a package. And if you've got

522
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: another draft pick there, that's when you can sort of

523
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 3: start to sweepen deals if you want to try to

524
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 3: get another player. So that's how I think it works.

525
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: I think if you the Hawks, yes, you do that,

526
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: and then we.

527
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: Would have Wiggins right here in our backyard. Oh man,

528
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: click copella. Would he wouldn't even have played a game

529
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: if there's something like those went down for the high

530
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: play for them, right, Yeah.

531
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't remember, no, no, no.

532
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: I saw some footage of him and Tree looking at

533
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: a whiteboard looking over a play, and I thought, where

534
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: the heck is that from? But I guess they hung

535
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: out and right, they've just never played. Yeah, yeah, I

536
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: did a little work together. But yeah, they would move

537
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: on before he played a game, just like Morgan. Email

538
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: are saying that Andrew Wiggins, well, they'd move on from

539
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins. They just got the guy. But I understand,

540
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: I understand Wiggins is a very polarized.

541
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: He's going to be a hoppy title I think for sure. Yeah,

542
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 3: people are like, yeah, I mean, he's got that huge contract,

543
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: but he's the number one pick, he's got talent, he's athletic.

544
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 3: Maybe we can get something out of him, but he'll

545
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 3: end up on IT teams and geez.

546
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, it's almost I'd be shocked

547
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: if the Warriors don't do something. Yeah, you know, draft

548
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: night here because they have so much to play with.

549
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: They have all these picks. You know, you got a

550
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: big deal in Wiggins, you got the player exception still

551
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: from Igadala seventeen point two, a huge one. Yeah, they've

552
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: got smaller ones as well. I don't think you can

553
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: package those together, by the way, in the same trade.

554
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll be shocked if they don't do something

555
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: at this point. There's just so much smoke, and you know,

556
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: he feels like they have gotta be a little bit

557
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: of fire with that. But we will see. Maybe they

558
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: just end up taking Wiseman number two. They're like, all right,

559
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: it's our big. Let's go with a young big with

560
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: these with all these shooters, we will see. All right, great, first,

561
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: want to get a started. Next one here Ao no

562
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: Dunk's Crew. On a recent pod, Skeets mentioned how he

563
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: always forgets that the Nets made back to back finals

564
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: appearances in two and three. Yes I did. I couldn't

565
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: believe it. I had to catch myself. This got me

566
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: thinking about other successful teams over the past ten to

567
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: fifteen years that basketball fans or the NBA community has

568
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: forgotten about. Once you got Turnip love you guys. No

569
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: awesome from Tim here just stopped right after love you guys.

570
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: It is from Tim again. So yeah, teams, successful teams

571
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: at that past ten to fifteen years that we've just

572
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: forgotten about for whatever reason. Tasks when you get started.

573
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: Well, this one's definitely forgotten. It's not so much for

574
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: what they accomplish that I want to talk about them,

575
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: but who it was up against. The Washington Wizards were

576
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: Lebron's first rival. It's forgotten the first three years when

577
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: Bron went to the playoffs when he was a member

578
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: of the Cavs. He went up against the Wizards and

579
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: the infamous teams of Gilbert Arenas, Carom Butler, and Twine

580
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: Jamison three straight years, and we were getting peak gil

581
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: that first year. He averaged thirty four points per game

582
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: in that playoff series against the Calves. It was only

583
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: a six game series, but this was this was awesome Gil.

584
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: He was forty three percent from three point land. It

585
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: got injured for the second one and he kind of

586
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: wasn't the same player after that. It was a real

587
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: short peak for Gilbert Arenas. But those two teams did

588
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: not like each other. And you know, this is two

589
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: thousand and six, so This was kind of going back

590
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: to an era where the big man was, you know,

591
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: more traditional, was trying to put the best player on

592
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: the other team on his ass. And the Wizards had

593
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: Brendan Haywood the big, big center. And there was a

594
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: time where Lebron said it was mid mid series where

595
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: he said, you know, I'm getting hit and not getting

596
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: the call, and Brendan Haywood was asked about that. We've

597
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: got the clip here.

598
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: Oh he's trying to hit me. I mean, come on, man,

599
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: this is the playoffs, man eight whears twenty three. He

600
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 4: wants me. Michael George, I can respect that. He's a

601
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 4: great player. He saw Mike went through. Mike got found

602
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: way worse than this. You know what I'm saying is

603
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: no one's trying to hurt him. Everybody's trying to play basketball,

604
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: trying to play tough, play basketball, leave alone trying to

605
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: hurt me.

606
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: Can you forget that? That's great stuff? I mean if

607
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: that was today, I was just all pre twitter. If

608
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: that was today, that would be circulating for a good

609
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: forty eight hours. People would love it, people would keep

610
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: going back to it. But yeah, he was trying to

611
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 2: rock Lebron's world. And it didn't really work out for

612
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: the Wizards three straight years. They It was six games

613
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: the first time, then it was a sweep for the

614
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: Cavs the second time with no Gilbert Arenas, no Crun

615
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: Butler even and then the third time was another six gamer,

616
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: but it was It was a decent battle. Its decent.

617
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: We had the Deshaun Stevenson right versus Lebron, one of

618
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: those serious that was exciting. That's a good pick. Yeah,

619
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: Wizards was a good team. I mean, you're obviously running

620
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: into a young Lebron. They were going to be easy

621
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: to get by him. That's a good one. You got

622
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: a team there at Adlie Well.

623
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: I mean, how well known are the grit and grind

624
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: Grizzlies in that era that they went through between casuals

625
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: casual basketball fans, So I think we obviously remember it there.

626
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: But for what seven seven straight seasons, Yeah, seven straight

627
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: seasons they made the playoffs and made the conference finals,

628
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: got swept by the Spurs, but they had that incredible

629
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 3: upset of the Spurs as well, where they tanked to

630
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: get the eighth spot to draw the Spurs and then

631
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: knocked them out in six games, which was really an

632
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: incredible effort by a Memphis team, but you just kind

633
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: of knew what you were getting with the Grizzlies every

634
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: single season. A tough team at the Grindhouse, there was

635
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: a real, real tough place to win, and it's just

636
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: a pity they never made it through to the NBA Finals.

637
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: I would like to have seen that team, you know,

638
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: because they were very well liked as well, Marcusol, Mike Conley,

639
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: Tony Allen, then Vince when he came along as well.

640
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: So they were one of those teams that I think

641
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: everyone kind of had as a second team, you know,

642
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 3: people sort of like to see them perform, but they

643
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: just never quite got over the line there. But they

644
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: were fun, they were fun to watch it, and they

645
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: were always always tough in those playoff games. That had

646
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: a couple of good series against a Thunder as well,

647
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: which are pretty good. So you know, I think it's

648
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: an era that again, casual basketball fans, I don't think

649
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: we'll remember, but us hardcores who covered it, we'll say

650
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: they were fun team. They were fun teams to g four. Anyway,

651
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Speaker 3: I'm going.

652
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Speaker 1: To add a team to the list for the future,

653
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: the current Bucks team. The current Bucks team when we

654
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 1: do this question ten years from now, they'll be on

655
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: my list. Like we're talking, you know, the last couple

656
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: of Bucks teams here, I forgot, like the nineteen twenty Bucks,

657
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, pre pandemic. They were the earliest team to

658
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: clinch a playoff berth since nineteen eighty four. They had

659
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: that wrapped up quickly. They were in finish fifty six

660
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: and seventeen again in a very weird year. They had

661
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: that eighteen game winning streak. Of course, just flamed out

662
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But this has been the very successful

663
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is like Budenholzer's Hawks teams. Of course,

664
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Speaker 1: very successful regular season team and came up short in

665
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Now, will they make a huge move this offseason,

666
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: try and get a Chris Paul somebody else to go

667
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: even further, try and make a finals, maybe even win

668
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: a title. Then that changes this, But I guess I'm

669
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Speaker 1: banking on that not being the case. And then unfortunately,

670
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: like you know, going out in the second round again,

671
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: and then it's like, wow, this team won like basically

672
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: sixty games three years in a row. They had MVP

673
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: back to back three times, for all we know, had

674
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: all these great players and they just couldn't get even

675
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: to the conference finals. That's rough. So we'll go box

676
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Speaker 1: looking in the future, looking at them a crystal ball.

677
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: But I liked your answers. Those are great. I love

678
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: the Wizards one and the Great and Grind Grizzlies for

679
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: the casual fan, no doubt. I'm sure the people in

680
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: the stream teamers are maybe throwing out some other ones too.

681
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have my eye on it.

682
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, sort of in your wheelhouse of the Milwaukee Bucks,

683
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: the twenty fifteen Hawks, the sixty games.

684
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Speaker 3: Oh, what's the common denomen today?

685
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Speaker 1: Yeah, here, make your best Budenholzer face. Lee. That's great audio.

686
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, early two thousand Celtics made a conference final. According

687
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: to Adjacent Fire thirty four the old Pierce and Antoine Walker.

688
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: That was somewhat random. Yeah, the random conference finalists here there.

689
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: I was thinking about the Mellow Nuggets in that light.

690
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: They know snuck one in there. But yeah, it's hard

691
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: to repeat those. As far as just success getting to

692
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: finals that are forgotten, it's hard to repeat what the

693
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: nets did. And you know three when you're looking for

694
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Speaker 2: somebody that's forgotten.

695
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that I'm still like, I'm still

696
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Speaker 1: not Yeah, like I keep going what they made it

697
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Speaker 1: to back to back finals of two oh three. I mean,

698
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: I guess it is weird too. They played two different teams. Yeah,

699
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: it's just and just and didn't really have much of it.

700
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they I guess it. Well, the

701
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Speaker 1: one did go along right, the one series it. Yeah,

702
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: it's so so strange. Yeah too, that serious, that's so weird.

703
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: I always remember because to Kembi Mtamba was the center

704
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: for the Sixers that went to the finals in one,

705
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: and then he got traded to the Nets and was

706
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: the center for the Nets two thousand and two, and

707
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: then you get a Todd McCullough center for two thousand

708
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Speaker 2: and three Pinball Wizard.

709
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And maybe a part of this too is

710
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: like they're they're not even the New Jersey Nets anymore,

711
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Like they're not Like it's just like it feels like

712
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: a completely different team, even though it's of course the

713
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: same franchise in Brooklyn. Yeah, it's still weird to me

714
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: that they went back to back, But that's it. If

715
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Speaker 1: you can beat that one, let us know in the

716
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: stream team or tweet at us at no Dunks.

717
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: Inc Hello shop blockers. Reading about recent Rockets history, when

718
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: Darryl Morey stepped down, I was reminded multiple times of

719
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Houston missing twenty seven straight threes in Game seven against

720
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 2: the Warriors back in twenty eighteen. It struck me that

721
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: those few words twenty seven straight threes would be enough

722
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: to ruin any Rockets fans day. It's got me thinking

723
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Speaker 2: of other short phrases that haunt certain NBA fan bases.

724
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: Three one lead for Warriors fans, four bounces for Sixers, faithful,

725
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: and lebronto for Raptors fans are just a few recent examples.

726
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Can you guys think of any other NBA moments that

727
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: torment a specific teams fan base in just a few words?

728
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: This question ended up being a lot more evil than

729
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: I intended. Turnips animal crossing. That's from Mitch in Coburg Lee,

730
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Speaker 2: what do you think?

731
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Speaker 3: Well, I've got one for both you guys, and I'm

732
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: pretty sure it's gonna work. I'm going to test out

733
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Speaker 3: my theory here. What's the score? Chris Child? Oh?

734
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: How dare you? I can picture that play so vividly?

735
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: What was he?

736
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: What was he doing?

737
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 4: Man?

738
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Speaker 3: What was he doing?

739
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't know?

740
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: Because it was off a free throw too. The Stackhouse

741
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: hit a free throw, so you know it wasn't like

742
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: it wasn't in open play per.

743
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: Se, crazy turnover exactly.

744
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so they had time.

745
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: He's a point guard too.

746
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was good when he Yeah, I think

747
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: he only played like a year and a half in trot.

748
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: I thought he was very good when in Toronto. But

749
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: he just yeah, he just blew it. And uh man,

750
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: that was a tough way to lose that series.

751
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, what year is that again?

752
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: It's a two thousand and two two?

753
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I couldn't remember.

754
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: So three.

755
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got one. I've got one more. This one's

756
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: a more generic, it's more for the entire league rather

757
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 3: than just the team. But with the second pick in

758
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: the nine point ninety four NBA draft, that's good, Triblazers,

759
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: that's good.

760
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: That's good. I got a couple here. I think you

761
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: would anger a lot of sun Sands if you brought

762
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: up I don't even know if you need to throw

763
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: the player's name. You just say hipcheck, the Robert Horriy hipcheck,

764
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: which obviously got some key players suspended in that series.

765
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: Maybe that was going to be the one where Phoenix

766
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: went to the finals. Maybe one MAVs fans, I mean,

767
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: things turned out well for them down the line, But

768
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: if you just said the we believe Warriors to MAVs fans,

769
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: that's going to be a rough one to try and swallow.

770
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: And then for Kings fans, I mean, you either just

771
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: say two thousand and two Western Conference Finals, you say

772
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: forty free throw attempts. Maybe you just say twenty seven

773
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: fourth quarter free throw attempts. Maybe just say Dick Movetta.

774
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: You know a lot of things that are going to

775
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: trigger that Game six of that game where they got

776
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: the Lakers got a very kind whistle. Though if you remember,

777
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: and I've heard other Kings players, even I think Doug

778
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: Christie has said this, like they had a Game seven

779
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: at home and they missed fourteen free throws in that one.

780
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: They missed them, so it was not a referee anyone

781
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: doing that to them, and that ultimately helped them blow

782
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: that game and blow their chances of maybe winning a title.

783
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: So those are the three that came to mind for

784
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Speaker 1: poor Sons, MAVs and Kings fans. You got anything else to.

785
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: Add to just just quickly imagine we had a King's Nets.

786
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: Finally in two thousand and two, you might not have

787
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: even remembered that one at all.

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Speaker 1: I'd be super upset. Mike Bibby would have a ring

789
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: with the Kings, right, you got anything to us?

790
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: That's a little like Detroit San Antonio in two thousand

791
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: and five. It's a bit of the forgotten series. Well,

792
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: the Mailman doesn't deliver on Sundays, kills Jazz fans. I

793
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: mean two free throws, just needed one. Now, they probably

794
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: would have lost if they hit one, if Carl didn't

795
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: hit both, because samj went down the other end banged

796
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: that home and that was the end of that series. Well,

797
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: I mean the malice at the Palace for Pacers fans specifically,

798
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: because the Pistons had just come off winning the title

799
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Speaker 2: and then this, So I don't think it hurts them

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00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: as much. It hurts that ron Our Test was gone

801
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: for the rest of that season. That team was good.

802
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: You know, you talk about the Suns potentially making the

803
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 2: finals if there wasn't the suspensions and the hipchack there.

804
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: You know, the Pacers were awesome with ron Our Test

805
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: and Jermaine O'Neil, and things just fell apart from there.

806
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: I think for Hornets fans, just Kobe one word. They

807
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: drafted Kobe and traded them for bloody Devots. It could

808
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: have been a lot different if they had Kobe Bryant

809
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: on their team. And a weird one but sort of

810
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: like the We Believe Warriors for cast fans, Lebron in

811
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Speaker 2: twenty ten, but also Lebron coming back and helping them win.

812
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: But that was, you know, it was a storybook in

813
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: a weird way. But we all remember the Jerseys burning

814
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: in twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: I think you was in that one. You would say

816
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: the decision for sure that that would trigger some maybe

817
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: Cat's hands, but you're right, ended up working out for everybody.

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00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: So that's great. That's a fun question. That's a great question, Mitch.

819
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: And again, if you got answers, let us know on

820
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: the stream team or tweet them in at No Dunk.

821
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: Think we got lots of questions still to get to here,

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Speaker 1: but first a quick word from our sponsors. All right,

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Speaker 1: next question here, Dear nude onlookers. A friend who doesn't

824
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Speaker 1: watch a ton of basketball remarked during the finals that

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00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat logo looks like garlic. I looked at

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Speaker 1: it closely and lo and behold, it does look like

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Speaker 1: a well defined hunk of garlic with a wispy little haircut.

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Speaker 1: All right, Which other NBA logos could moonlight as foods? Ps?

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Speaker 1: Grammarly help me make this email clear and more concise.

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Speaker 1: Turnips love the trade stock them from Angelo in Brooklyn. Yes, okay,

831
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Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean I can see the garlic there

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Speaker 1: and in the Heat logo, but any other MBIA logos

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00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: that can moonlightest foods?

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Speaker 2: Task? Well, it's really good. The Heat one is really good.

835
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick look at that garlic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it.

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Speaker 2: Totally totally true. I found this a little difficult. But

838
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Speaker 2: when I looked at the Blazer's logo, okay, kind of

839
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 2: looks like a bowl of spaghetti. Okay, at all those noodles,

840
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: or specifically, if if you put that fork in there

841
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: and you give it a twirl, there, it is right right,

842
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: right right, you got a fork full of spaghetti right there.

843
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: So Blazer's logo, classic logo right there.

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Speaker 1: I looked at all these logos, I was struggling to

845
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Speaker 1: come up an answer. I did. I did stop on

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00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: the Blazers one, and I was like, this looks like

847
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Speaker 1: something but I couldn't get to swatty task way to

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Speaker 1: do it, h Lee, any luck with any of the

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Speaker 1: other ones, same as you.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, what am I saying it?

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Speaker 3: The only thing I can sort of see is the

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Speaker 3: Indiana pieces Like I was kind of someone holding like

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Speaker 3: chicken drumstick or a ticky tru.

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Speaker 1: Okay, not bad like the fair right example, times I

855
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: got the turkey leg exactly that that's the best one

856
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: I could come up with some Yeah, but they've changed

857
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: so much over the eas as well.

858
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: You know, it's like everybody, I mean, they should have been.

859
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: You think you've seen NBA logo, you figured out the food,

860
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: it looks like they go and change the logo.

861
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: Crazy crazy, Yes, there's an old there's old rockets are

862
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: that it's kind of looks like it's dripping at the bottom,

863
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: like it's kind of like barbecue sauce, and like it

864
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: looks like it's definitely dipped into something. But the R

865
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: doesn't look like food, right right.

866
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: And and I'll just say this now, okay, just save yourself,

867
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: save the email of sending us in pointing out if

868
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: you turn the bulls logo upside down, it's like a

869
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: robot reading a Bible. Okay, that's been around since the

870
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: Wizards were battling Lebron James in the playoffs. So just

871
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: you don't need to let us know. We're well aware

872
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: it's crazy. You're right, it looks like a robot and

873
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: it's so funny that comes around. But once a year

874
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: that just like gets like finds life again on Twitter

875
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: or on the blogs or look at this. Yep, we've

876
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: been looking at that for fifteen plus years. I'm sure

877
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: I blogged about that in one of my first years,

878
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: and it will be around. It's amazing though, all.

879
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 5: Right, what about the uh, I don't know if you

880
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 5: remember back in twenty sixteen when Jaegermeister went after the

881
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 5: Bucks for their Yogo like that.

882
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: It's paid gretty close. It's pretty Yeah, it is. It is. Indeed,

883
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: are you a Yagermester family.

884
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: I've had it, but uh not for I don't know.

885
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you the last time I've had it,

886
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: but you know I've tried it. Yeah, very fine.

887
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Have you ever done what's it called a doctor pepper?

888
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't think call it a doctor pepper where you

889
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: drop a shot at Yager yagermester in a in a

890
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: pint of beer and you taste like doctor Pepper.

891
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: No, I don't think I've ever done that. No, I

892
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 3: think I've just had shots of it, and it's like

893
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: I didn'd see what the big deal is? That's special?

894
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: Great that week? Clear it up?

895
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: All that a big shot. I'm just not a big

896
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 3: shots guy, to be honest with, I'm not a big

897
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 3: shots guy.

898
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to think because you're not twenty.

899
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. One night, I remember having a

900
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: few too many tequila slammers and oh that made a

901
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: bit of a mess of me that day. Yeah, I

902
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: remember I came home because I'd been out and I

903
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: and I slept all day and Mum was just like,

904
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: what did you drink last night? Because you're usually not

905
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: that bad like you're usually if you hung over, usually

906
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: up at about But I was just did bed all day.

907
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: A cool story, bro. Think I was drinking tequila a

908
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: little bit too much tequila?

909
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Lee, we've never done a shot while we

910
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: watched the EFL Grand Finals.

911
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: Ah, Hey, it's on tomorrow morning, four thirty in the morning.

912
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: You're going to do it tequila shot at in the morning.

913
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 3: Let's do Sambuka instead. I think that's uh, that's ok.

914
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 5: You gotta do Bundy. You're of Bunder, Yeah, that's yeah.

915
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 5: The Australian basically is the Australian screech for the Canadians

916
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 5: out there.

917
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: There you go. So, yeah, this is going to be

918
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: the first time in a long time. We're not getting

919
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: together to watch it obviously, unfortunately.

920
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but like I think I got it wrong.

921
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 3: It's actually four thirty our time as first bounce they started,

922
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 3: they started daylight saving out on the East Coast before

923
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: we've ended it here.

924
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: So and that's weird because we usually watch it at

925
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: night here in America because they play the game during

926
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: the day. But yes, you're saying, for the first time whatever,

927
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: they're playing this at night over.

928
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: There, first time ever, First time ever a night ground final.

929
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: First time does the ball bounce differently under the moon lane?

930
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: I mean most of the big games are played at

931
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 3: night anyway now because of the TV audience, But first

932
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: time ever, it's not been in the MCG part from

933
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one they had it at a different ground

934
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: because they were renovating the MCG. So a lot of

935
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: traditionalists like it's not the same. It's not in Melbourne.

936
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: But it's a game.

937
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: Who's in the who's in the final.

938
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 3: Two Victorian teams Ironic Richmond again, Richmond going for their

939
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: thirty four years against Geelong. So go Kats, I'm going

940
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: with the Tigers. I'm going for the Tigers.

941
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: Go on Cats.

942
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I think I would say Richmond are probably

943
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: about a ten to fifteen point favorite. I would say

944
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: I would say, okay, see, yeah.

945
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: Okay, good luck to both teams. I hope it's a

946
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: high scoring affair. Yeah, is that what you say?

947
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

948
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you cleaned up last year. Remember you

949
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 3: won the you want the money line?

950
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I'm really good at picking up.

951
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: I want a footy in the raffle. You've got a

952
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: six pack. It was a great It was our best

953
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: night last year for sure.

954
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.

955
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

956
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to miss this. I can't believe our tradition

957
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: is coming to and end. I'm coming over in your

958
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: house forour thirty in the morning. All right, bring it

959
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: to killer. We got along long one here. Let's get

960
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: to it.

961
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 2: Does a Geelong play before their games that they played

962
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: Jelong Jeong Jelung Gelong Jeeng Jelong lung Lee, long, long, long,

963
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: Sorry about that. Listen JD. Get the cool story bro

964
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: audio drop here. I can't talk the cool story drop

965
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: for this guy here Hey absence of jams. On the

966
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: latest Beach episode, Lee sounded truly terrifying when talking about

967
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: the delivery room slash stinky beef situation. I don't think

968
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 2: he would ever actually kill a man, but I probably

969
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: shouldn't make any assumptions about a man who sits backwards

970
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: on a toilet to bee. I had my own smelly

971
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: delivery room situation when my son was born in April,

972
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: but I was the villain. My wife was going on

973
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: hour eighteen in the hospital and I was getting hungry,

974
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: so I ordered some Chipotle delivery for dinner. Unfortunately, immediately

975
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: after I ordered, the doctor came in and decided it

976
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: was time for the epidural. As the nurses prepared to

977
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: inject a giant needle into my wife's spine, I got

978
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: an alert that my delivery driver had arrived, so I

979
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: slowly slunk out of my room to grab my food.

980
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: Since this was peak quarantine, no eating was allowed in

981
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: any public areas, so I returned to the delivery room

982
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: and ate my delicious burrito bowl in the corner, all

983
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: while my wife glared at me. She hadn't been allowed

984
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: to eat a proper meal since over eighteen hours ago,

985
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: and here I was crushing a massive Chipotle bowl. I

986
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: had to order double meat to hit a delivery minimum,

987
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: which only made things worse. Yeah, I'm sure your wife

988
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: was looking over evening this guy order double meat. Needless

989
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: to say, what I thought would be a nice, hearty

990
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: dinner instead turned into an absolute disaster. Bringing it back

991
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: to basketball, hopefully the baby went. Okay. What are your

992
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: favorite examples of NBA teams thinking they're set up for

993
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: success only to totally implode in hilarious fashion. Turn up,

994
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: love you guys. Awesome. That's from Steve Ward in Chicago

995
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: eating at Chipotle bowl horror. Thanks Steve for sending that in.

996
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Do you think they named their baby Chipotle? Chipotle Ward?

997
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: Wack?

998
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: What's your baby's name? Extraquak?

999
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1000
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so back to basketball. That was a very cool story, bro,

1001
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: no doubt. I did like it. I enjoyed it. I

1002
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: glove I included it, And you're right, Leewood, I think

1003
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: Lee would kill a man. I think, yes, yes, that

1004
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: was You're saying like that, you have I haven't.

1005
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, in that hospital room, that was his clasest of

1006
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: common and I would have leaded guilty, but of also

1007
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: said I'm not going to jil for that because he

1008
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 3: deserved it, so right right, changing the rules.

1009
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, favorite examples of NBA teams that were

1010
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: sort of set up and they imploded. I got a couple.

1011
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: One of them I already mentioned in this podcast, The Mavericks.

1012
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: That's a rough one. I mean they were the Mavericks

1013
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: were sixty seven and fifteen and O six oh seven.

1014
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a record, you know, after having

1015
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: just made the finals year before, Dirk won MVP and

1016
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: they got sort of embarrassed by the We Believe Warriors.

1017
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you had Steven Jackson shutting down the MVP

1018
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: in Dirk and Matt Barnes all up in his shorts

1019
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So hey, I don't know if

1020
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: it's hilarious, but that was, like, damn, that's a real

1021
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: good team. Losing to an eight seed there twenty ten

1022
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: to eleven heat is an obvious one, just because they

1023
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: are the not one, not two, not three, blah blah blah.

1024
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: The decision of the super team the Villains, and they

1025
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: lose the first year. Of course they had some success

1026
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: after that, but to see them lose, I think people

1027
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: were loving that. They were relishing the fact that especially

1028
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: Lebron came up short after going down to South Beach

1029
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: taking his talents. And then I'll add one more. I'll

1030
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: say recent one. I think a lot of people enjoyed

1031
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen twenty Clippers imploding and blowing a three

1032
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: to one lead themselves to the Denver Nuggets. A lot

1033
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: of people dislike Paul George, A lot of people dislike

1034
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley in Kawhi even polarizing, I think to some

1035
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: people with the load management, and then of course Toronto

1036
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: and Canada and him leaving. You know, some people upset,

1037
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: some people, not like myself. But I think people took

1038
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: some little joy in them falling to the Nuggets after

1039
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: being up three one. So those are three that come

1040
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: to mind. You got anything to add there, Ley.

1041
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just on the Kawhi stuff. I think it

1042
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: is very interesting because the rept has won the championship,

1043
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: and when Kawhi took off twenty two games, but the

1044
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: championship sort of pipe it over any cracks because if

1045
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: he left off for a year, let's say that four bounds,

1046
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: it didn't go in filling, they lose. I think there

1047
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: would have been like, man, the Raptors players didn't like

1048
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: the fact that Kawhi took off games whenever he felt

1049
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: like it, but they won and won the championship, whereas

1050
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: the Clippers now it's like, see, you didn't you did

1051
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: all that load management and we came up short. So

1052
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: then they start turning on each other a bit, they

1053
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: start pointing the fingers a.

1054
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: Bit, you know.

1055
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: So that's an interesting scenario that's playing out there. So

1056
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 3: for me, I've got a couple two. The twenty twelve

1057
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen LA Lakers were second favorite heading into that season,

1058
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 3: second championship favorite behind the Miami Heat. That's, of course,

1059
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: with Dwight and Steve Nash, and they got swept by

1060
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: the Spurs in the first round. They had a few injuries.

1061
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: But there's a fantastic if out there of Dwight Howard

1062
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: sort of slunking to the bench and Tim Duncan just

1063
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 3: smiling the whole way, just like in a classic Tim

1064
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: Duncan fashion, like just laughing at Dwight because they went in.

1065
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 3: They had that Sports Illustrated cover with they had the

1066
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: Union shorts and singlets they were wearing, and it just

1067
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 3: fell as it's gonna be fun exactly. It fell apart

1068
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: very very quickly. And then the other one is the

1069
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 3: twenty twelve thirteen Brooklyn Nets roster. Of course they made

1070
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: the huge trade there in the office. It was at

1071
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: thirteen fourteen. Actually maybe it might be off the season there,

1072
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: but it was when the Nets gave up three unprotected

1073
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: first round picks for Pearson Garnette and I think Jason

1074
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 3: Terry as well, And we knew that was short sighted

1075
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: at the time. And if you look at some of

1076
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: the players the Celtics have got out of that draft now,

1077
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 3: like Brown and Tatum done just keeps on coming back

1078
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: to haunt the Brooklyn Nets. So that was pretty fun.

1079
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: I mean, of course, they did upset the Raptors in

1080
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: the first round, which is not fun. Another sort of

1081
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: bad day for the Raptors here, but then they got

1082
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 3: killed by the heat again. Lebron and Dwayne Wade killed

1083
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: them in the second round. So I think people enjoyed

1084
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: seeing just how desperate the Nets were to win and

1085
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: the expectations at the owner Prokerov gave them and they

1086
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: gave up their Miliga to the future, and they didn't

1087
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: even get close to a championship. So a couple of

1088
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: fun ones.

1089
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: There barely is not my GM just feeling this thing

1090
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 2: and yeah, Billy making a bad move there. To me,

1091
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: I go back for a team that really disappointed after

1092
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 2: the expectations were really high. I go back to two thousand,

1093
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 2: Tracy McGrady and grand Hill teaming up with the Orlando Magic.

1094
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: I just thought, two Hall of famers in their prime,

1095
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna win a playoff series. One they didn't win

1096
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: a playoff series. Now, a lot of that has to

1097
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: do with grand Hill, no doubt, because he was injured.

1098
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: You know, he had some serious injuries where he had

1099
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: a staff infection and he had rushed him back to

1100
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: the hospital and that was really worrisome. I think he

1101
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: had one hundred and four fever. So amazing that he

1102
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: came back to play the way he did for such

1103
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: a long career. But I just thought Tracy McGrady, he

1104
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,479
Speaker 2: left the Raptors for a reason to be the number

1105
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: one guy, and it's crazy when you look back. He

1106
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: led the league in scoring twice as a member of

1107
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: the Magic. He was a baller. He was an All

1108
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: NBA player all four seasons that he was there, which

1109
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: I totally forgot. Twice on first team, twice on the

1110
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: second team. But the embarrassing part enters in in two

1111
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 2: thousand and three. If you guys remember, they were playing

1112
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 2: the Pistons and they're up three to one, and Tracy

1113
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: McGrady was at the podium and he said, it feels

1114
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: good to get into the second round. Now. Maybe he

1115
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: forgot that the five game series had been gone that season.

1116
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: Maybe thought it was a five game series and they won,

1117
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: but the Orlando Magic blew that three to one lead

1118
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: and the Pistons came back because they used that as

1119
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 2: bolton board material, I'm pretty sure. And Tracey McGrady didn't

1120
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: get out of the first round there, so that was

1121
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: that was ugly stuff. Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady. You

1122
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: just thought those two amazing players, but didn't come together whatsoever.

1123
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: And then McGrady left and went to Houston and balled

1124
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: out there. He was amazing there, but the playoffs sort

1125
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: of haunted him as well.

1126
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: For sure. All right, our next one here, Hi, guys,

1127
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: I discovered you on my road trip across the country

1128
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: while I was moving from State College Pennsylvania back to

1129
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Los Angeles this past summer. It was right before the

1130
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Bubble relaunched, and you guys had been doing a bunch

1131
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: of stories on what was happening leading up to it.

1132
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: It was on my stretch of drive driving from Dallas

1133
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: to New Mexico on I ten that I decided to

1134
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: really get back in the know of what was going

1135
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: on in the bubble. And a few podcasts later, I

1136
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: was hooked on No Dunks. I got a dog back

1137
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: in August, and No Dunks has been my official dog

1138
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: walking podcast. Oh thank you. Has there ever been a

1139
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: time you were on a long drive or doing something

1140
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: so boring you decided to listen to something new and

1141
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: then you got hooked. Keep up the good work. That's

1142
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: from Virginia. Now back in Los Angeles, task what you got?

1143
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: I got a weird one. For some reason, I can't

1144
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: remember why. I was looking at the top charts of

1145
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: Apple podcasts because I needed just something to listen to.

1146
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: So I had listened to Joe Rogan a little bit

1147
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: a long time. This was I don't know seven, eight,

1148
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: nine years ago. I don't know how long it was,

1149
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: but Joe Rogan's been around for a long time, so

1150
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, I'll just click on to Joe Rogan here.

1151
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: But I wasn't clicking on a Joe Rogan. I clicked

1152
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 2: on the Joe Rogan Experience. Experience, a show that recapped

1153
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: the Joe Rogan Show.

1154
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 4: Wow.

1155
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I started listening to these three guys are

1156
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: just talking about Joe Rogan and the stories he was

1157
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: telling on the latest episode, and they were saying, you know,

1158
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't a great episode. I've heard those Joe Rogan

1159
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: stories before. I'm like, this was on the top charts.

1160
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: It was I don't know, ten, eleven, twelve. It was

1161
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: way up there, while Joe Rogan was, you know, obviously

1162
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: hovering at the top. But because of Joe Rogan's name,

1163
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: this got up there. And it wasn't a very good

1164
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: experience listening to this experience. So I gotta be honest,

1165
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they're still on top of the charts,

1166
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: but I don't think they are, so that experience not

1167
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: so good.

1168
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: We should start a podcast commenting on them. On Joe

1169
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: Road Layers We together. Wow, that's crazy.

1170
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: What happened to the two of the Week Army podcast, which.

1171
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: Is I was going there for a while.

1172
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll go next year because I've done a

1173
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: long road trip. I've driven back to Canada once or

1174
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: twice here a couple of years ago. Now of course,

1175
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: from Atlanta. It's a long drive fourteen fifteen, sixteen hours

1176
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: and one of those trips we this was all Nora's doing.

1177
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: You know, she's plugged into the the crime podcasts. She

1178
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: found one called crime Town, that's what it's called. And man,

1179
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: I was hooked. We were both hooked. It made the

1180
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: drive go so quick because it's like a serial documentary

1181
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: podcast produced by Gimblet Media. This is years ago now,

1182
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: I think twenty sixteen is when it started. It's about

1183
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: how organized crime has shaped like particular American cities. And

1184
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: the first whole season was about Providence, Rhode Island. You know,

1185
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 1: so a city I know nothing about, had no idea.

1186
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: There's all these mob ties and all these weird characters

1187
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: in this organized crime so well done. The characters in

1188
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: this are amazing. It's real. And I think it was

1189
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 1: like eighteen official episodes and then there was a bunch

1190
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: of bonus episodes and I just remember that drive like

1191
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: it was like we're not stopping, Like I mean, like

1192
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm so into this, I'm so in the zone drive

1193
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: and we're making great time here and like this is

1194
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: just the hours are flying by because we're just enthralled

1195
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: with this podcast. So Crime Town shout out to Crimetown

1196
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: again twenty sixteen. I think they maybe started to do

1197
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: a second season about Detroit. I think I didn't. I

1198
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: didn't have a trip to go on, so I wasn't

1199
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: listening to it, So you can correct me if I'm

1200
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: wrong some some of the listeners out there. I don't

1201
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: even know if they continued with it, but look it

1202
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: up if you ever got a long drive Crime Town

1203
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen about Providence, Rhode Island. It's fascinating stuff just

1204
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: because the characters the guys are talking to are amazing.

1205
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: Su I don't care, we're going We're finishing this episode

1206
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: at least, even if it ends us on the side

1207
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: of the interesting. Yeah, it's so good. You got an answer.

1208
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I haven't been on a long road

1209
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: trip for a while, but we've been on a couple

1210
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 3: of two or three hour trips with the boys, and

1211
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 3: I just have to say the listening and driving experience

1212
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 3: is different when you've got kids because they don't care

1213
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 3: what you want to listen to. They want to listen

1214
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 3: to their own music over and over and over again,

1215
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 3: and if you want to stay sane, you just have

1216
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 3: to sort of bow and give in. And they like music.

1217
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: But sometimes I just like the Despicable Me soundtrack as well,

1218
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 3: Minions and stuff like that. And sometimes you're driving along

1219
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: and I'm a little bit different to you. I'm driving

1220
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: as fast as I can to get to the destination

1221
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: so I can turn it off because you're driving long here.

1222
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: I can't do it. But you hear the Despicable Meets

1223
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 3: voices and it's just like over and over one more time, dad,

1224
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: Especially the eight year old is not too bad, but

1225
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: the four year olds at that stage like again again again,

1226
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 3: and you're just like, oh my god, no more, please please.

1227
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 5: This is why you're a great I'm a good dad.

1228
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 5: You're a great dad, because I would never do that

1229
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 5: ever in a million years. You're listening to what I

1230
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 5: want to listen to. There's no way that I'm listening

1231
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 5: to the to whatever they want to listen to.

1232
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: Not a chance.

1233
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: Well, look, I guess I start the trip by not

1234
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: saying anything about the music. I just sort of hope

1235
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: that no one's listening. But you know, after half an hour,

1236
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: they're like, can we listen to this? Can we listen

1237
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: to that? And I'm just like, all right, I've tried.

1238
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: I've tried resisting in the past, but it just creates

1239
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: a worse environment, I guess, I have to say. I

1240
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: probably when it's just me and Rocksander in the car,

1241
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm probably like, driver decides no, there's no negotiation there.

1242
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 3: But the kids will wear you down. Man, They're wear.

1243
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: You I can't believe I've yelled to the backseat. We're

1244
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: listening to English Nick and the.

1245
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: River, Ah Man exactly ninety seven Won the River.

1246
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: That's great. I was just listening to it this morning.

1247
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll tell you what. The boys they love.

1248
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 3: I love a couple. I love Queen, I love Will Smith,

1249
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: and I love Britney Spears as well. So you know,

1250
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: we get a little bit of sort of nineties music

1251
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 3: and sort of seventies and nineties music in there as well.

1252
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: So I don't mind it.

1253
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: You know.

1254
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: I like Big Will, I like Queen, Britney's kai JD.

1255
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 5: Do you have an answer for this, well, it's it's

1256
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 5: kind of almost. The birth of this podcast was I

1257
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 5: discovered podcasting, not while I was driving, but when I

1258
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 5: was doing a little show called Kaiu back in the day.

1259
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 5: It was two thousand and four, two thousand and five,

1260
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 5: and I was tasked with doing the feat only I

1261
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 5: only did the feat that first season of Cayu.

1262
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: So I would sit there.

1263
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 5: And I couldn't stand Kyu's voice, so I muted the

1264
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 5: dialogue track and all I would do is just add feet.

1265
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 5: Every time there was a footstep on the screen, I

1266
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 5: would have to add a sound effect. So uh, And

1267
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 5: it was right when Lost had just come out. The

1268
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 5: Lost came out in two thousand and four, so as

1269
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 5: I was listening to audiobooks, but it was starting to

1270
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 5: get a little expensive. So then I discovered iTunes podcasts

1271
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 5: and I listened to three different Lost podcasts. Those were

1272
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 5: my first, my first foray into podcasts, and they were terrible,

1273
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 5: but I listened to them and I was like, I

1274
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 5: could do this, we could do this. Let's let's do

1275
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 5: a podcast. And the basketball Jones was born.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so we can actually thank Cayu, I guess, and

1277
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: Lost started starting the basket down the hatch we go.

1278
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Speaker 2: There was another podcast you were listening to at the time.

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00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: It was a couple right out.

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Speaker 5: Keith and the Girl. I think they might still be going.

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00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 5: I think they're still going. So they're they're like O

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Speaker 5: G S.

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00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I even I remember that one, Keith and the Girl.

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00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: Good call. Great questions, guys. Let's take one more quick

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00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: break before we get to a few more all right,

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00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: few more questions. We got wrapped over? Run long here today.

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Speaker 2: What's up, yeah, floaters. When I had my birthday a

1288
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, my brother showed me a video.

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01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: It was the one and only Skeets wishing me a

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: happy birthday. I was so surprised and so happy that

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01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: I had to hold back a few tears of joy.

1292
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: Normally I kind of expect the gifts I get, but

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01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: that video surprised me so much it kind of overshadowed

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01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: all the other gifts of the day. So my question

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01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: to you guys is when was the time you received

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01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: a gift that you would have never expected? Greetings from Germany.

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Speaker 2: That's from Paul Grimmig. Thank you for the email. Paul Skeats,

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Speaker 2: This one's all you.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's fantastic. I'm happy to hear someone in Paul's

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01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: life came through with the cameo from old Skeatzy. Go

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01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: to cameo dot com find Jay Skeets if you want

1302
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: a message from me. All that money goes to charity anyway,

1303
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: so might as well do it if you want a

1304
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: video from me, I enjoyed doing them. They are a

1305
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: lot of fun, so I'm glad you liked it, Paul.

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01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: My answer for this, I already talked once about Nora

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01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: surprising me with a trip to Dublin way back in

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01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: the day. That was cool because that's when we didn't

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01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: have any money either. We were basically poor, you know,

1310
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: trying to get by in Toronto, which is a expensive

1311
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: damn city. But then she somehow sprung this little trip

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01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: to Dublin for like four days. That was awesome. But

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01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: most recently, Nora made me a photo book of one

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01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: of our favorite trips to Western Canada when I went

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: to went to Vernon, British Columbia to see friends, and

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: then we went Nora and I we went sort of

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01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: a road trip to Bamfed National Park and Jasper National

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: Park and it was such an awesome trip. We were

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01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: gone for like three or four weeks. So she did

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01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 1: the old classic, you know, sort of scrap book, I guess,

1321
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: but you know, you can like upload the photos to

1322
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: these services now and like make these really slick productions.

1323
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: So this was one of my birthday gifts. It was awesome,

1324
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: and we got a second one for free because they

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01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: accidentally put a weird caption on one of the photos,

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01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: like in BAMF National Park. It said like accidentally I

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01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: don't know how it said, like Mongolia or something like that.

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: It's like cam Body or something some weird country that

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01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: they just for some reason slapped on there. So they

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01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: sent us another one. But yeah, that was a nice gift.

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01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: That's a thoughtful gift. Come man, there's like a legit book.

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01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: We obviously had a ton of photos from seeing friends

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: and doing a bunch of stuff and going to all

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Speaker 1: these parks. I mean, it took her a lot of

1335
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: time and effort to put into this, so something like

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01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: that it's always next level. So that was very very

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of her.

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: That's my buddy Grish's move. That's Buddy Grish. Didn't make

1339
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: it the scrap the scrap book for everything. Took a

1340
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: trip down to the store and made a scrap book.

1341
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: But here's me buying some eggs at Public's. Yeah, he

1342
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: does like that. That's a that's a Gris move. But

1343
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: this Nora did it a lot better than any of

1344
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: one I've seen from Grish. I'll tell you that.

1345
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: It's easy to make a mistake on those captions. That

1346
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: wasn't very stake, but.

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01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just a yeah, it was just a

1348
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: random thing.

1349
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Speaker 4: I think.

1350
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how the heck popped in there on

1351
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: one of the photos. But you're right, a ton of work.

1352
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: Because you're right, it's not just the photos. There are

1353
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: like this is when we were doing this, or this

1354
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: is where we were and stuff like that. So it's

1355
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: it's extremely well done.

1356
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: You've done that before, haven't you shut her fly before?

1357
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 3: I shot a fly tons of stuff basically every Mother's

1358
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: Day and anniversary, roxanner, I do something off. So we've

1359
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 3: got plates and bowls and mugs and drinking bottles and

1360
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff covered in photos. Yeah, we've got

1361
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: scrapbooks all over the place. But because it's it's it's

1362
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 3: good because otherwise your photos just stay on your phone. Yeah,

1363
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: so many times you get I've got all these great photo,

1364
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 3: especially from a trip. Then you get home and you

1365
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: just kind of forget about them. So you know, it's

1366
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: good thing. Roxana's birthday, our anniversary, and Mother's Day very

1367
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 3: very close by. So I just up like crazy on

1368
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 3: shutterfly for about six weeks and order all sorts of stuff,

1369
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 3: and you know, it's a bit repetitive, but it's fine.

1370
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: It's it's just you standing like this in every photo

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01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: in a puffy jacket in front of the kids. It's great.

1372
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: My mother in law for our kids, does it monthly?

1373
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: We get a monthly Yeah.

1374
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: I think the Kirbies do that too, don't they. I'm

1375
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: pretty sure they do.

1376
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 3: We get something on Instagram where it's not monthly. It's

1377
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 3: like when you hit a certain amount of photos, they

1378
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 3: just automatically triggers it.

1379
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, Now it's it's a little much.

1380
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: Monthly is a little Yeah, that's you said, repetitive. It

1381
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: gets it definitely gets a little repetitive. It's like when

1382
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: you were young and you had a girlfriend for a

1383
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: long period of time, did you celebrate monthly? Did you

1384
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: have a monthly anniversary? I did, mistake, just just do

1385
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: it every so often every few months. Now it is

1386
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: really nice to have and get him off the phone.

1387
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: Lead he got an answer for this baby.

1388
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: Well kind of a little bit like what Skeetz was

1389
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: saying there. A friend of mine once flew over from

1390
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: I was in London. He flew from Australia on Emirates

1391
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 3: to England and something happened on his flight and they

1392
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: gave him a free return flight to Dubai from London,

1393
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 3: but he didn't really need it because he had his

1394
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: return ticket and they weren't going to give him anything else.

1395
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: They said, this is what we give you, you can transfer

1396
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 3: it to somebody else. And he gave me a ticket

1397
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: to Dubai, one ticket, and I was like, oh, perfect,

1398
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: I can't wait. I'm going to use it for sure.

1399
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: And I never used it because I was like, I

1400
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: kept trying to organize someone to go with because I

1401
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 3: didn't want to go by myself, like all the way

1402
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 3: out there, and it was one of those things I

1403
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: sort of got pushed back a few people like yeah,

1404
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm in, and I'm out. I mean I'm out, and

1405
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: then I ended up just not using it. It expired after

1406
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 3: like eighteen months or something, I can't remember what it was,

1407
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: and I was like, I can't believe I just had

1408
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: a free ticket to Dubai and I never used it,

1409
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: never been there, never been there. Wow, And I missed out.

1410
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: So many photos of you standing in front of We

1411
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: missed out on you and you in the desert alone.

1412
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: I guess we have photos of you in the desert.

1413
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: And I wanted to do that thing you can do

1414
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 3: in Dubai where apparently you can go surfing, you know,

1415
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: on the same day you can go surfing outside and

1416
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: then go inside to that massive skiing room. Have you

1417
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 3: been there? Did you do that?

1418
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: I've been to Dubai. I didn't go that though.

1419
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I would have done. But this was

1420
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: before Twitter on Instagram, so would have it even been

1421
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: worth it?

1422
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 4: You know?

1423
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: You couldn't make a scrap book.

1424
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 2: A weird gift that I didn't expect. It was basketball. Really.

1425
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: At twenty seventeen All Star Game in New Orleans, check

1426
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 2: into my hotel room. There's a bottle of champagne sitting

1427
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: there with a card carde signed by Isaiah to Sherlin

1428
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: Champagne that he has brought into the NBA world and

1429
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: was given to some of the media members there, And

1430
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: it was the first official champagne of a celebration of

1431
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 2: a championship celebration. I guess that was associated with the

1432
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: Lakers this year. It wasn't really made a huge deal,

1433
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 2: but yeah, I was surprised to see that. And I

1434
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: just bring it up because I know it angers JD

1435
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: because he didn't get a bottle of champagne and you too, LEA, right, Yeah.

1436
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 3: And JD and I wrote the post all Style Games

1437
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 3: party and someone took out details specifically and said it's coming,

1438
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 3: It's on its way, and we're like, right.

1439
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: Never hopes he exceeds this man.

1440
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: Where is it?

1441
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 5: Blake? Name Blake?

1442
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 3: I can't remember, but I remember getting excited at me

1443
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 3: and JDB sort of like, great, we're getting a champagne

1444
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 3: as we deserve. As we deserve never showed up.

1445
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, there was no way we were getting that champagne.

1446
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 5: I mean that was the night we were leaving, wasn't it, Like.

1447
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 3: No, but they took our address to like send it

1448
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 3: to Atlanta there. Yeah.

1449
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 5: Also, we worked the guy for three more years or whatever, and.

1450
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: Every time he like mind drinking a.

1451
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: Exactly you think he fills up the sirloin bottles with

1452
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: water after they're they're done just because because he uses

1453
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: them on props as as props on this NBA TV set.

1454
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 2: Pretty they're drinking. I think they've got to connect. They're

1455
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: not going through Blake.

1456
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: I hope you guys get your bottle.

1457
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 3: Of the champagne.

1458
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: Did you ever get those jeans you were supposed to

1459
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: get in the mill from?

1460
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 4: Uh?

1461
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: What was that guy's name? He was angry. He was

1462
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 3: angry at my jeans, and he said he's gonna send

1463
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: me a few pays. All right, great, never turned off,

1464
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 3: never got him old muzzlewamp.

1465
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 4: That was.

1466
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: Mulewamp, didn't come.

1467
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 2: Didn't get your jeans swamp?

1468
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, Alright, one more before we wrap this badly up.

1469
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: Hey toe hunks, a long time, first time on one

1470
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: of your recent beach step in episode, Skeets finally noticed

1471
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: that Lee and JD had sneakily replaced the stumpy feet

1472
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: guy in the opener with old eight toes. Yeah, there

1473
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: they are. Now. I'm very much team podcast since I

1474
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: listened to your show every day on the way to

1475
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: and from work. But when I heard this exchange, I

1476
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: had to go back and watch the YouTube video. I

1477
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: was stunned to see that the first three toes on

1478
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: old eight toes right foot are fused, and that's why

1479
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: he's called old a toes. For some reason, I had

1480
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: always assumed that old a toes was called old a

1481
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: toes because he was straight up missing one toe from

1482
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: each foot. I went all these years listening to your

1483
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: show thinking I knew all about your friend's bodies. But

1484
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: boy was I wrong. Anyways, my question to you is this,

1485
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: what's one time you thought you were in on a

1486
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: joke only to realize you had been solely mistaken the

1487
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: whole time? Eight toes Rhino sets grishow. That's from Bayon

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Speaker 1: from London, Ontario, Canada. Shout out to London. I don't

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Speaker 1: really want answer to the question, but I'm one hundred

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: percent on board with what he thought. For the longest

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01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: time we heard all day toes. I think I've said

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01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: this before. I thought that just meant that he had

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01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: four toes on each flat. I would have never, ever,

1494
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: in a million years, I thought that it was because

1495
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: three of them were lumped into one fused together the appearance.

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01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: Of ten, but three operators a single unit, so they

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01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 3: only count as eight. Yeah, you know, now I've got

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01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 3: another mate called KitKat who's missing. He was born without

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Speaker 3: a thumb, uh, and so he's only got four fingers.

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,480
Speaker 3: So that's that's that's legit.

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01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: That's legit. What's going on in the water in Australia,

1502
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: you got oxygen water. He's weird body, you know, a

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: nuclear place.

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01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:58,879
Speaker 3: Kit Cats from South Africa.

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01:09:58,960 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 4: So well.

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01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 3: But it's funny because you know, when you go to

1507
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 3: meet somebody, it's on his right hand. So when you

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 3: shake hands, you know the thumb. You realize, yeah that

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: you expect the thumb to be there, and you slide

1510
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: right past and you sort of grab his forearm.

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01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: You're already bad at.

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01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's one of those ones who're like, what

1513
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 3: the hell did I missed there? You know, but he

1514
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 3: was born he was born without a thumb.

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01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a great guy kid cat. Yeah, sure, really

1517
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 3: good guy. But you know he's sort of like you

1518
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 3: know people, every time you meet someone new that he's like,

1519
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 3: yeahs born without a thumb, No big deal.

1520
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: Get pissed with you every time you do your old

1521
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: two thumbs up. I'll tell you that. You just fly

1522
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: in his face.

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01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: He's a good sport kit cat. He's fine.

1524
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 2: Here's another guy who has a tattoo of leave. But

1525
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: it's just one from one thumber kit cat. That's legit.

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01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: It's legit.

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01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: That's a great Honestly, it's just a fun thing to say.

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01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: It's some perfectual. I'm on bre with that. I like that.

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01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: Do you have an answer for this, lee?

1530
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 3: I was trying to think of one. Yeah, it is

1531
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 3: because in school, you know, sometimes when like you would

1532
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 3: you put the sticker on the back of someone that

1533
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: says kick me and all that, you'll be in on that,

1534
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 3: but sometimes you were the one who's been kicked as well.

1535
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 3: I had another story, but that's that one's not appropriate

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01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 3: to broadcast because of it involves a couple of people.

1537
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: But that was a pretty funny story one time in Spain,

1538
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 3: actually in Barcelona.

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01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: That was a pretty funny story.

1540
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 4: No.

1541
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 3: I was trying to think, could I somehow shoehorn this

1542
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: in without giving away the details? But no, I can't. Unfortunately,

1543
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 3: sorry about that. But yeah, it's tough. It's tough, really,

1544
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 3: I think. I guess.

1545
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 1: I guess.

1546
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 3: The only time we've all been in on a joke

1547
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 3: is when we used to hide the orange gum from

1548
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 3: our producer Matt, you know, because he would eat the

1549
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 3: whole packet in like ten minutes and and act like

1550
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 3: he hasn't. And so we would have a whole fresh,

1551
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 3: like twenty packet, grew thing of it, and someone whould

1552
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 3: hide it.

1553
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 1: We would have to hide it.

1554
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then all of a sudden Matt would leave

1555
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: the office and come back and there'd just be a

1556
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: packet on the desk and no one would say anything.

1557
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 3: And a couple of times he was looking around like

1558
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 3: where did that come from?

1559
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh, there was Matt's birthday yesterday. We should have sent

1560
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 2: him a package that would here to be a whole

1561
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: array of gum. But then you'd open it and there

1562
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,520
Speaker 2: there would be a note, we're hatting it from you,

1563
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 2: no come find it.

1564
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: It would be it would be all the gum that

1565
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: we've already chewed and wrapped of the packet and just

1566
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: put back in.

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01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he coun't throw those in the trash, he

1568
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 3: would pile them up next to his like you would

1569
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 3: have like ten pieces of chewed gum there, And he

1570
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't think that was weird either of all the things

1571
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 3: that he thinks I did that was gross. He didn't

1572
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 3: think that was gross.

1573
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fair, Yeah, it's good.

1574
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: He's again, he's so against biting into a fresh piece.

1575
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: They'll have used gum on a table for hours. Okay,

1576
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 2: I'll give a quick answer to this one. And it

1577
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: does involve a thumb. Actually, yeah, the it's not a

1578
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 2: kit kat story, but the email Aer signed off there

1579
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: with eight toes rhino sets. Grisham a few of our friends,

1580
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: and mine does involve rhino sets. Who was once Canadian

1581
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: Junior Bowler of the Year. The man knows is bowling.

1582
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: He won the TSN Classic Bowl Championship. The announcer said,

1583
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: this kid's got maple moxie. Yeah, that Canadian definitely had

1584
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: a lot of maple moxie rhino sets. Actually, he told

1585
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: me that in the PBA, the Professional Bowlers Association, they

1586
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: had started bowling with two hands, and I didn't believe them.

1587
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: He said, there's no chance, like they would put two

1588
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: hands on the ball and throw it right. You know,

1589
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: they stick their thumb in there, stick their other two

1590
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: fingers in there, corral it and do a you know,

1591
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: their big spin. It's not it's not legal. It's not

1592
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: possible that, but they he had He had me. I

1593
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: just didn't. I mean, I guess I just had myself

1594
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: because I didn't believe it for a while and then

1595
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 2: then I saw it. The best bowlers in the world

1596
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: now bowl with two hands. Jason Bell Monte, he's a

1597
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 2: two hand bowler, flinging it out there.

1598
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Can you do that? But you mean when

1599
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: you when you say two hands, he's not literally sticking

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01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: fingers from both hands into the Okay, yeah, he's like

1601
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: what he'd do.

1602
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's he's got he's got both hands. He

1603
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: guides it with the other hand like it it's it's

1604
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 2: on the whole time until he he lets it go.

1605
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: He it's not a traditional rear back with your one arm.

1606
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: He kind of you know, it's less of a wind

1607
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: up and uh yeah, that's two hands.

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01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna say, it almost makes more sense,

1609
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: doesn't it. We shoot a basketball with two hands. He's

1610
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: your other one as like a guiding hand.

1611
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just feels like cheating after after seeing generations

1612
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: of generations bowl with one hand. But it's it's the

1613
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 2: way the game's evolving. It's the way the sports evolving.

1614
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: But it it doesn't feel like cheating.

1615
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just like it.

1616
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: The old schoolers definitely don't like it. They think it's

1617
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: they think it's cheap.

1618
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean cheating. I don't think it's the right word

1619
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: for it. It's yeah, it's unorthodox. It's be like someone

1620
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 1: shooting underhand free throws, I would guess. I mean it's

1621
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 1: it's still the same thing. You're still doing the same

1622
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: The goal is not changed. It's just how you're going

1623
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: about it looks silly, But.

1624
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 3: I think with balling, with professional balls, the spin they

1625
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 3: put on the ball, I think it would be harder

1626
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 3: to do that with two hands because you got to

1627
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 3: curve it around and it's got a grip, and then.

1628
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: Maybe the second hand while he's throwing it is like

1629
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: spinning it even more coming down on it.

1630
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: The spin's still there. It's just it makes it a

1631
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 2: tiny bit easier, I guess, to be able to guide

1632
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: it where you want.

1633
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 3: Oh, we've got Dave setting here in the comments. Is

1634
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 3: his brother someone's talking about.

1635
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: By the way, if you.

1636
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: Talk to Dave, that's a real Dave set and is

1637
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: a perfect game, says Dave Setton. Twelve strikes in a

1638
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: row eight hundred series is three consecutive games, adding to

1639
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 2: at least eight hundred. Eight hundred is much harder Oh.

1640
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about this.

1641
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, he's he's just having a chat with

1642
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 2: somebody in the in the chat here because Erwin Rossio asked,

1643
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 2: is is a eight hundred still better than a perfect games?

1644
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 2: That's the debate. Three games to get you to eight

1645
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 2: hundred or a perfect game game?

1646
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1647
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: Is that more more difficult? Because Dave Setton he's never

1648
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 2: bowled a perfect game from what I remember, but he's

1649
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 2: done the eight hundred and three games. So that's the debate.

1650
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 2: But listen, Rhino Sentence, he's got the resume to prove it.

1651
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: Canadian Junior Bowl of the Year. You can watch him

1652
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 2: on YouTube. TSM Classic Bowl Championship. He's got the maple moxie.

1653
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 2: He's you mentioned Vick Rouder a couple of weeks ago,

1654
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 2: League the TSN broadcaster. He's calling Rhino sentence Classic Bowl

1655
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 2: Championship as he as he check.

1656
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 3: That's incredible. I mean when you said he does all

1657
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 3: the sports, think bawling was up there as well. I

1658
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 3: mean Olympics and hockey. It might be possible tennis, but

1659
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 3: bawling as well. Man, what a stop? Vicky?

1660
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: All right, go check that clip out. Let's call it there.

1661
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: Because that's a lot of bowling talk to end a

1662
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: basketball podcast with. But we appreciate all your emails. Keep

1663
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: them coming No Dunks at the Athletic dot com or

1664
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: tweet them in at No Dunksinc. Thanks to everybody who

1665
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: joined us live here as part of the stream team

1666
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: on YouTube. If you haven't catched or listened, excuse me

1667
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: to some of our podcasts earlier this week. I highly

1668
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: recommend you do. We talked to John Schuman about the

1669
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: most Intriguing free Agents, which we ended up realizing wasn't

1670
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: the most intriguing list in the world, but we had

1671
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot of fun with Shoe and then we talked

1672
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 1: to Ben Standing talking about that Athletic NBA Agent survey,

1673
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: which came out in two parts this week on the Athletic.

1674
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: Some juicy stuff in there, some comments on Lebron and

1675
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: some other things, so go check out. That was a

1676
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: lot of fun as well. So those were two guests

1677
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: we had on this week. If you haven't listened to

1678
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: those podcasts, go and download them. I think you'll really

1679
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: enjoy them. And thanks again for joining us. Keep questions coming.

1680
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,879
Speaker 1: We'll call it there. Everybody, have a safe and fun weekend.

1681
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: Clipper bros. You heard it here first, have a great time,

1682
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,959
Speaker 1: turn up, love you guys.

1683
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 5: Awesome.

1684
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this but a little bit

1685
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: more bowling talk. And since we had John Schuman on

1686
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: this week, who likes to correct people with a well, actually,

1687
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 2: I just got well actually by my friend Dave said,

1688
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: and he said, I have four three hundreds, four perfect

1689
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 2: games and was the youngest in Ontario at the time

1690
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: to shoot an eight hundred. Way to go, I just

1691
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 2: got well actually by my buddy on this show.

1692
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 3: Correct And he's not even the best bowler in his family,

1693
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 3: but he's probably third.

1694
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: That's the crazy part. We're going to see a thirty

1695
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: for thirty talk about the sets bowling one of these days.

1696
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, embrace the weekend. People.

1697
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 5: You could stay every day.

1698
01:18:53,960 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, happy every man so long that you're the

1699
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: one I've waiting for.

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01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: It's happened already.

1701
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: It's gonna be grippy.