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Speaker 1: Brian brought us along with Dane Brugler, CBS Sports David Hellman. Morning,
Speaker 1: how are we doing, guys? Thirteen days? Thirteen days? Can't
Speaker 1: wait this boat. We started off feel a little bit
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna show my history knowledge. Mcgellan. Wow, what
Speaker 1: does guys? What did Magellan do? I don't know. He's
Speaker 1: something famous. He needed the pen of the s interview.
Speaker 1: But that was Columbus, Columbus. That's Columbus. Magellan was the
Speaker 1: first guy that circumnavigate the globe. Oh, that's what we've
Speaker 1: been doing in this Draft show. Really, I think so okay,
Speaker 1: I think we've carried this thing. It's to the point
Speaker 1: where I'm excited about it. I'm anxious about it. I'm
Speaker 1: excited about the actual draft. I'm getting a little worn
Speaker 1: down by shouldn't get shouldn't get worn down by speculation.
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes the draft great. There's so
Speaker 1: many scenarios, you know, and that's that's what mock drafts are.
Speaker 1: Like I've been doing. I've done probably one hundred mock drafts.
Speaker 1: Ye know, I'm not an exaggeration. No, it's not. It's
Speaker 1: are you running out of ideas? Well? Yeah, And the
Speaker 1: point of these mock drafts, I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: one hundred percent accurate, you know, Like it's I don't
Speaker 1: really care. Yeah, I just want to look at different scenarios.
Speaker 1: You know. Okay, if if Mark's Mariota ends up going
Speaker 1: number two, how does that, you know play out? What's
Speaker 1: the ripple effect? The draft's fascinating because one pick in
Speaker 1: the top ten that's different than we think can have
Speaker 1: a ripple effect that changes everything down the line. And
Speaker 1: whether that's a quarterback or you know, whatever it ends
Speaker 1: up being. That's the fascinating thing about the draft. There's
Speaker 1: so many different scenarios. It's more unpredictable than the NCAA tournament,
Speaker 1: I mean, anything out there. So that's what makes it great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've I've grown this time of year, and those guys
Speaker 1: are sitting in that draft room right now putting together
Speaker 1: their board. And this was always an exciting time for
Speaker 1: me because you had, you had all the you were
Speaker 1: starting to do the film work. I mean, you're getting
Speaker 1: you're getting a general manager and Stephen and all of them,
Speaker 1: and Garrett, you're getting them up to speed. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that you know you already had known about.
Speaker 1: But the fact that you have the medicals, you know,
Speaker 1: we get the girly recheck this weekend, the fact that
Speaker 1: he was here last weekend. They have a real good
Speaker 1: understanding of where that knee at is. But the further
Speaker 1: we've gone along here, I'm starting to realize you talked
Speaker 1: about mock drafts. I'm starting to feel like that there's
Speaker 1: certain players that just aren't going to be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, guys like you say, we've talked about Dane.
Speaker 1: You brought it up a long time ago about the
Speaker 1: cornerback situation, and we've talked about Dave. You've gone on
Speaker 1: record about this situation here with the Cowboys. The more
Speaker 1: you look at all these teams ahead of Dallas, the
Speaker 1: more likely that they might not get the opportunity to
Speaker 1: draft a Jones or A Peters or somebody like that. See,
Speaker 1: I feel like I kind of disagree with you there.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I get what you're saying, but I
Speaker 1: at this point in time, I feel like of the
Speaker 1: positions that we agree that they would want slash need,
Speaker 1: I feel like cornerback is the best bet for there
Speaker 1: to be a good pick there defensive end or linebacker myself. See,
Speaker 1: And that's the unpredictable part of the draft is the
Speaker 1: corner situation. How many corners are off the board and
Speaker 1: you know, just looking at the top said it's top
Speaker 1: four with Wayne's Byron Jones, Kevin Johnson, and Marcus Peters,
Speaker 1: whatever order that ends up going. Well, one of those
Speaker 1: four guys be on the board for the Cowboys at
Speaker 1: twenty seven. If they are, I think that's the pick it.
Speaker 1: If they're not, I agree, then let me let me
Speaker 1: just me just throw some stuff out. Who are you thinking?
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be there a defensive end o Diggie,
Speaker 1: oh DIGGI yeah, I think I think this is gonna
Speaker 1: sound funny, but I think one of the UCLA kids
Speaker 1: is going to be taking ads. Yeah, Kendricks or Odiggie
Speaker 1: at twenty seven. I do because I just going through
Speaker 1: and I did this on Talking Cowboys U the other day,
Speaker 1: and I started with Tennessee at two, and I'm just
Speaker 1: teams that could use a cornerbacks, maybe as a top
Speaker 1: three need. Yeah, we'll get into it more next week.
Speaker 1: I want to get into some more of these guys
Speaker 1: as far as needs and stuff. Tennessee at two, Jacksonville
Speaker 1: at three, Oakland at four. St. Louis at ten, Minnesota
Speaker 1: at eleven, New Orleans at thirteen, Miami at fourteen. Well,
Speaker 1: and Dane's been saying this all spring. That's the point
Speaker 1: of trying to make there isn't a team on that
Speaker 1: list that doesn't need. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as one of the three team needs.
Speaker 1: Now you know, well the quality of the corner stretch,
Speaker 1: I thought it would stretch until you go in and
Speaker 1: start physically saying, okay, you know, what does the San
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers need? What do the Kansas City Chiefs needs?
Speaker 1: And that that's what I mean. Yeah, everybody on that
Speaker 1: list could use a cornerback. I mean, you know, as
Speaker 1: a top three need top three. But also there's plenty
Speaker 1: of teams I mean for every team you just mentioned,
Speaker 1: a few of them might need a Vic Beasley or
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler's and that's true, and there might be other
Speaker 1: teams also the need. I mean every all thirty two
Speaker 1: teams could use another corner. I mean it might not
Speaker 1: be in their top three need, but when they come
Speaker 1: when it's their pick on the board, a corner might
Speaker 1: be their top player on their board. My question in
Speaker 1: do you guys is as in what you've seen, is
Speaker 1: the corner back the best position in this draft for
Speaker 1: the quality of the player, at least in the first round.
Speaker 1: I think so, I think there's um just an overall draft.
Speaker 1: You can't say the runners, well, can you? You can
Speaker 1: maybe say your edge rushers? Well, if we're talking overall draft, yeah,
Speaker 1: in terms of depth and you know, all things considered
Speaker 1: UM to me, it's talking about corner yeah, talking about
Speaker 1: wide receiver, running backs in there, and ash rusher. I
Speaker 1: think those four positions are are in that conversation. And
Speaker 1: I think depending on who you talk to, you get
Speaker 1: different answer. Who the deepest position is? You know what
Speaker 1: the best position is altogether? Because with running back we
Speaker 1: might have ten in the top one hundred, right with
Speaker 1: wide receiver. We're not probably not going to match last
Speaker 1: year in terms of the star power, and we had
Speaker 1: four receivers or a thousand yards receiving last year, but
Speaker 1: the overall depth is outstanding. I mean, even if you
Speaker 1: don't get one of those top three receivers the Maury Cooper,
Speaker 1: Kevin White, Vante Parker, you can still get a Preshod
Speaker 1: Perryman or a DGB or Jalen Strong, Nelson ogil Or.
Speaker 1: I mean the depth in each round's outstanding pass rushers outstanding.
Speaker 1: And then of course corner. So I think those four
Speaker 1: positions are the ones from me I look at as
Speaker 1: the deepest in the strongest in this draft. Do you
Speaker 1: think the run will be so you're saying no, you
Speaker 1: think more of a run at receiver, or you're saying
Speaker 1: more of a run. Do you think the run's gonna
Speaker 1: be a corner in the high corner with receiver. I
Speaker 1: think that we're gonna we're gonna see the three receivers
Speaker 1: off the board quickly, and then it's gonna be the
Speaker 1: rest of the first round is gonna be a little
Speaker 1: hit or miss. We might see Breshad Perriman go somewhere
Speaker 1: in there Jalen Strong. Maybe you know, DGB, maybe if
Speaker 1: Philip Dorset could sneak in there, we don't, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility. I feel much stronger saying
Speaker 1: that the corners we're gonna see five or six in
Speaker 1: the first round. I think you'll see corners taken throughout
Speaker 1: the first round, whereas I mean, yeah, I think there's
Speaker 1: like probably two top twelve receivers and then you have
Speaker 1: wait a little while before the next one. See, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. If maybe a guy like
Speaker 1: I mocked last week or when we first did the
Speaker 1: mock of Byron Jones, I don't have that. I don't
Speaker 1: have that great feeling I put Byron Jones the Cowboys
Speaker 1: that first time around, thinking that he was gonna be there,
Speaker 1: And the more you really dive into this, I don't
Speaker 1: think Byron Jones and even Peters are gonna be there
Speaker 1: when Dallas picks at twenty seven four corner. And let's
Speaker 1: let's get something straight with Byron Jones. I've got a
Speaker 1: lot of questions about him being a workout warrior and
Speaker 1: his combine boosting him up to the draft board, and
Speaker 1: that's not the case. His tape matches. Oh absolutely, what
Speaker 1: he the testing numbers that he put up. Absolutely. He
Speaker 1: was caught up in a case of he was on
Speaker 1: a terrible team at Yukon, terrible team, and he missed
Speaker 1: almost all the most. He was out since October, so
Speaker 1: he missed half the season, second half of the season,
Speaker 1: so he didn't play the Senior Bowl. He was limited
Speaker 1: throughout the pre draft process. So you know, he was
Speaker 1: a little bit of underrated. I mean he went kind
Speaker 1: of under the radar a little bit, but I mean
Speaker 1: he's been on the radar. He just not a guy
Speaker 1: we talked about a lot because of the injuries and
Speaker 1: the fact that he was overlooked a little bit. But
Speaker 1: he's His tape absolutely matches it. He's worth a top
Speaker 1: twenty pick. Let me throw this to you because we
Speaker 1: talked about trading back for a running back last week.
Speaker 1: All Right, you don't think the top four corners will
Speaker 1: be there. I don't think you would want a draft
Speaker 1: Row or Derby in at twenty seven. Is that ye?
Speaker 1: Yes or no? You don't have to know. I know
Speaker 1: I would if we If if I told you that
Speaker 1: you could trade back into the mid thirties or even
Speaker 1: forty and take one of those guys. Would you feel
Speaker 1: better about it? Cornerback? I'm that's just the hypothetical. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think because I'm I'm more interested. I'm more
Speaker 1: interested if I'm gonna trade back, I'm more interested in
Speaker 1: getting one of those running backs me personally. I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand your scenario that you're asking me about a corner,
Speaker 1: my hypothetical and just to ignore it. No, I No,
Speaker 1: I didn't ignore it. I'm just saying, though, if you
Speaker 1: ask me to trade back, I'm interested in going to
Speaker 1: get my guy Coleman or a JII. You know I'm
Speaker 1: interested in that. I'm interested in that. I'm not interested
Speaker 1: in backing up for a corner. Okay, I'm not, so
Speaker 1: you don't. I would rather go up. I would rather
Speaker 1: go up to get a corner than go back. That's
Speaker 1: just me. Or wait and get a Nelson or you know,
Speaker 1: a corner later or a Josh Shaw. You feel better
Speaker 1: about getting a corner at sixty than a running back
Speaker 1: at sixty, I think, I mean, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a shot of getting a running back at sixty myself,
Speaker 1: do you ever? And that's a problem, that's the issue.
Speaker 1: I pretty much agree with you. I do, But do
Speaker 1: you ever think like we're so hyper focused and like
Speaker 1: we have a pretty good idea what they're thinking that
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, you know, maybe you can't see the
Speaker 1: forest for the trees type of thing, like, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you get so stuck on one line of logic and
Speaker 1: it makes sense. I'm not saying it doesn't, but you
Speaker 1: never know how it's gonna We could see a running
Speaker 1: back slip to sixty. It's possible. I mean two years
Speaker 1: two years ago, I never would have guessed Eddie Lacey
Speaker 1: would have fallen to the sixty first pick in the
Speaker 1: second round. That's fair in the packers would get Eddie Lacey.
Speaker 1: I never would have thought that would have happened. That's
Speaker 1: a great point. I've talked to people who think a
Speaker 1: gie is a decent bed to last. I mean, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's possible. I don't. I don't see it either. But
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's just because you kind of get
Speaker 1: into this line that makes the draft unpredictable, because in
Speaker 1: the second round, you know, we could see some maybe
Speaker 1: some first round guys fall out of the first round
Speaker 1: to the second round. You know that starts to make
Speaker 1: up part of the second round, some guys fall a
Speaker 1: little bit, and it might be a case where teams
Speaker 1: are waiting for that running back run yeah, before they start.
Speaker 1: And that's the scary thing to me is gonna be
Speaker 1: when the first when the first running back after I mean,
Speaker 1: Girley and Gordon are beasts into themselves. But when that
Speaker 1: first other running back goes, I think you're gonna start
Speaker 1: to see them all. Oh no, I like dominoes. Kent
Speaker 1: Krrison is our producer today on the show. He handles
Speaker 1: all the calls of interaction with the fans. So kN
Speaker 1: know you got one on the line. Let's go where
Speaker 1: you're What do you got? Dale and Richmond Virginia. Dale,
Speaker 1: We're doing great. What's your question? They're glad to see
Speaker 1: you're doing great. First of all, I mostly agree what
Speaker 1: you said as far as defensiveated the linebackers. But I
Speaker 1: was wondering, um if Dane could go into detail about
Speaker 1: two de fifth of tackles, one for Washington State and
Speaker 1: another one for Northern um I or for when I
Speaker 1: read they both can get to the quarterback. And I'm
Speaker 1: Dave order your draft gud. I would expecting to get
Speaker 1: the book, but somehow I kept the online version easy
Speaker 1: for me to use because I'm a number that I
Speaker 1: could I'm wanting to pay the extra the book. Well, no,
Speaker 1: and I apologize. It's uh, you know, for everyone if
Speaker 1: you're interested in the book, it's a PDF only version.
Speaker 1: It's only on digital. But I know you know a
Speaker 1: lot of people end up printing it out. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is an option. I know that's something um, you know
Speaker 1: we've done here um and hopefully that's something you're able
Speaker 1: to do, is take the online version. It's easily. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's easy to print. Um. But to your question about
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle Xavier Cooper at the Washington State A
Speaker 1: player that a little out of position at Washington State,
Speaker 1: but the five technique, I think he's more probably a
Speaker 1: three technique absolutely U interesting background, Uh when you know,
Speaker 1: kind of overlooked in the recruiting process, went to Washington
Speaker 1: State and really, uh you see a talented player, uh
Speaker 1: and very quick, very athletic, and he showed that the
Speaker 1: testing numbers backed that up absolutely sure. Did. I think
Speaker 1: he was more of a flash player on tape, and
Speaker 1: I think if you can hone that and get more
Speaker 1: of a snap the snap reliable player you got something there.
Speaker 1: So I think Cooper uh is in that top one
Speaker 1: hundred somewhere. And then who oh, Xavier Williams out of
Speaker 1: Northern Iowa, a player that I saw at the East
Speaker 1: West Shrine game. He got a chance to see him live. Um,
Speaker 1: he played more of a tilted nose at you and I,
Speaker 1: but I think he's more of a three technique or
Speaker 1: a five technique at the NFL level. Another guy who's quick,
Speaker 1: and I love the motor, I love, I love the
Speaker 1: relentlessness is that he gives. He uh, he was a
Speaker 1: combined snub. He's gonna be one of the first combine
Speaker 1: snubs drafted this year, probably somewhere in those those middle rounds, fourth, fifth,
Speaker 1: sixth rounds somewhere. But a good player who he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a starter from day one, but I think
Speaker 1: he'll push the starters and be someone that you can
Speaker 1: get on the third day who can contribute. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, I uh, I'm with you about the book.
Speaker 1: To me, it was, you know, put it together, you
Speaker 1: know as you can, it works out well, get it
Speaker 1: printed out and stuff like that. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think one day you'll have that thing printed You'll
Speaker 1: be Hey, if I if I could, Uh, it's cost
Speaker 1: so much to print these things, so if I could
Speaker 1: do that, I would, but uh, you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people end up printing it, and I think it
Speaker 1: works out. Well, absolutely, I do that. Yeah, And and
Speaker 1: people will print it and bind it for you. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's me. But yeah, yeah, you talk about real quick though.
Speaker 1: You know, we got to a few minutes before we
Speaker 1: got to go for a first break, talk about your
Speaker 1: your thirty two I believe, and I tweeted it out
Speaker 1: last night, your your combined snub. Yeah, and just maybe
Speaker 1: highlight uh you know three or four guys out of
Speaker 1: that group that you think that can And that's up
Speaker 1: on CBS Sports too, by the way, isn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's on CBS Sports. It's you know, last year we
Speaker 1: had thirty two non combine guys drafted, and that's about
Speaker 1: the average every year. It's about thirty guys every years,
Speaker 1: so high number in my opinion. Yeah, Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: tough because two fifty two. Yeah. Well, and you figure
Speaker 1: there's about a three hundred and thirty invited that combine
Speaker 1: every year, So there's over one hundred combine invites that
Speaker 1: don't get drafted right, Um, but you know, through one
Speaker 1: reason or another, some of these guys go overlooked. And
Speaker 1: I think, um, you know absolutely Xavier Williams from Defensive
Speaker 1: Tack Club of Northern I was one of them. It's
Speaker 1: me the biggest combines stuff with Shack Mason. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: interior alignment from Georgia. Shack, you gotta played center, right.
Speaker 1: I think he's best at center, but he can play
Speaker 1: guard as well. Um, and I think he was at
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and he did well for himself. Do you
Speaker 1: think that people overlook him because of the offense that
Speaker 1: he plays in. I mean it's that option option. It's
Speaker 1: an offense that doesn't translate to the NFL at all.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean and the way they block that
Speaker 1: is completely foreign. So yeah, I can see that position
Speaker 1: he was on the ground, Yeah, you know, eighty percent
Speaker 1: of the town because that's what he was asked to do.
Speaker 1: Cut block cup, yeah, you know, just launch himself basically.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the athleticism, it's really impressive.
Speaker 1: I think Shack Mason definitely, Um, he's a player that's
Speaker 1: going to be drafted, only drafted, but you know, maybe
Speaker 1: you know towards the early parts of the day. And
Speaker 1: there's there's guys at every position you look at, Um,
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, there are quite a few quarterback Chris
Speaker 1: Bonner from Colorado State Pueblo. That that's the kind of
Speaker 1: the guy pegged to get drafted who wasn't at the Combine. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, a big kid, he's so raw, but you
Speaker 1: see a lot of ability, a lot of base traits
Speaker 1: that you want at the quarterback position. So I think
Speaker 1: that's a possibility as well. So will we have thirty
Speaker 1: two guys Combine snubs drafted this year? We'll see it
Speaker 1: could be lower, could be higher. We'll have to see
Speaker 1: how it plays out. But I think those are thirty
Speaker 1: two guys that I think are possibilities. Did you take
Speaker 1: a peek at Gabe Martin at all from Bowling Green?
Speaker 1: I did, and he did make that list. Um, there
Speaker 1: are a few MAC linebackers. Sylvestry, the Toledo guy, and
Speaker 1: then Gabe Martin at Plowling Green. He love you love
Speaker 1: the energy that he shows. He's athletic, he runs all
Speaker 1: over the field. Um, you know, he can get blocked
Speaker 1: pretty easily and taken out of the play. But when
Speaker 1: he's able to have free space to operate. He he
Speaker 1: has the range that you want. So I think he's
Speaker 1: a guy that you look for maybe on special teams,
Speaker 1: and you know he can be an impact guy there
Speaker 1: while he you know, fights for a job and the linebacker.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on him. And Dane gave you some
Speaker 1: He painted a really nice picture of the player Mansion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and Gabe Martin from Bowling Green and um, and
Speaker 1: I've done the player myself and I totally agree with
Speaker 1: what Dane has said about the player. But keep an
Speaker 1: eye on him. Against Wisconsin, I watched him play some
Speaker 1: Sam linebacker And this is you know when you talk
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys uh and them looking for a potential
Speaker 1: Sam linebacker. Uh. He was also one of their thirty
Speaker 1: visits as well. So that's a little bit insight right there.
Speaker 1: For Dane's got you a guy right there on his list.
Speaker 1: You should go check that list out. But also keep
Speaker 1: an eye on Gabe Martin, linebacker from Bowling Green. The
Speaker 1: games I watched were Ohio, Western, Kentucky and Wisconsin. I
Speaker 1: was thinking I have him later in the draft more
Speaker 1: probably six type A rounds. Right. I gave him a
Speaker 1: priority free agent grade, but it wouldn't be shocking to
Speaker 1: see him come off the board. Remember I watched I
Speaker 1: watched him with you for Yeah, I think Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: all over there. Yeah yeah, Dallas with two picks in
Speaker 1: the seventh, you know, and I don't. You could be
Speaker 1: absolutely right about the player. I thought more about that
Speaker 1: two thirty six or two forty three where they're picking.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on Gabe Martin again played a little
Speaker 1: Sam linebacker against Wisconsin six two two thirty four four
Speaker 1: six one speed is what I had. So, Okay, we're
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Speaker 1: us Dane Burglar, David Hellman, Kent Garrison driving the bus
Speaker 1: right now. Um. Dane talked about his UH book. You
Speaker 1: can still get that if you go to his Twitter
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Speaker 1: a way to order that in the Yes, I'll show
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Speaker 1: were able to do. Um. Dane covers a lot more
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Speaker 1: so check it out if you could. A lot of
Speaker 1: good stories in here, some scouting reports, and again Dane
Speaker 1: Brugler did a really good job helping us with current
Speaker 1: comparison of NFL players to some of these draft picks.
Speaker 1: So mock drafts too, Yeah, which is probably a part
Speaker 1: of mine now, but yeah, it's I think it worked
Speaker 1: out pretty well with it, did it did? I'm really
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about this. I think every year we'll
Speaker 1: get better at doing this and I'm really proud to
Speaker 1: be a part of something that well. So we'll get
Speaker 1: you the link where you can order that right now.
Speaker 1: I want to go to Chandler in Oklahoma. Chandler, we're
Speaker 1: doing great. What's your question, sir? Yeah? I got two
Speaker 1: quick questions, guys. One, when are we finally going to
Speaker 1: hear something on great CARDI suspension? Because that could really
Speaker 1: impact draft plans if it's let's say, eight games as
Speaker 1: opposed to two or four. And second of all, for
Speaker 1: those of us who don't have a Twitter, where can
Speaker 1: we get Dane's draft book? Does he have an actual
Speaker 1: website or something that we can go to and download
Speaker 1: it from there? And that's all I got. I'll hang
Speaker 1: up from listen. Thanks guys, Thanks Chandler. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: I've relied on Twitter, to be honest with you, to
Speaker 1: get that out there there. The let me pull up
Speaker 1: the link it to Google. It's old Bruger Draft guide
Speaker 1: and it'll come up. Yeah, And the link is my
Speaker 1: Football News dot Com under products um and it's under there,
Speaker 1: so my Football News dot com. Um. If you go
Speaker 1: there under products um, that's where you can find my
Speaker 1: draft guide. So that's uh easy way to do that.
Speaker 1: If you don't have a Twitter. I think the Hardy
Speaker 1: thing will come up here, it's not it's yeah before
Speaker 1: the draft, Yeah it will. I believe it will fall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be Bush lead by the NFL. We answered
Speaker 1: a question Dan the mailbag. I think about it, but
Speaker 1: and I mean to that point, Adrian Peterson not getting
Speaker 1: any suspension time has I mean nothing to do with nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. Yeah, So I think you'll
Speaker 1: I think you'll know something's gonna He's gonna get something,
Speaker 1: and I gotta believe it's gonna come in sometime in
Speaker 1: the next two weeks. Why do you think that does
Speaker 1: alter the draft plans? If it does, I don't think
Speaker 1: it does at all myself. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it changes your I mean because you know, even though
Speaker 1: I even though I said that they could draft, but
Speaker 1: I think it's about draft plans. I think you're looking
Speaker 1: at maybe future teams you can ever you can never
Speaker 1: like I mean, obviously, with your first round pick, you
Speaker 1: want a guy that can contribute immediately, right, You've got
Speaker 1: to keep three and four years in the future in mind.
Speaker 1: And Greg Hardy right now as a one year player,
Speaker 1: absolutely and he might even be he might even be
Speaker 1: like a twelve game player. He might pen game player,
Speaker 1: game player, absolutely right. So thanks for the call there, Chandler. Okay,
Speaker 1: Dave and kn't hit it Twitter? All right, we got
Speaker 1: some we got some really nice stuff today. And since
Speaker 1: we're talking about Greg Hardy, and thanks for bringing a
Speaker 1: pen that doesn't click. You're welcome everyone. This pen does
Speaker 1: not click. So I hope I'm not ruining your broadcast
Speaker 1: this week. Um, So we just talked about Greg Hardy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this is really pertinent, Jim. Jim points out
Speaker 1: they moved up to get to Marcus Lawrence last year
Speaker 1: because he was the last best right defensive end. True. Correct, True?
Speaker 1: You signed Greg Hardy to play right defensive end and
Speaker 1: you plan to move to Marcus Lawrence to left right?
Speaker 1: So what's correct? What's going on with defensive end in
Speaker 1: this draft? What are you looking at left or right?
Speaker 1: I'm looking at left. This team went out to look
Speaker 1: for a right defensive end. That was Will's plan from
Speaker 1: the word go. They were looking for a right defensive end.
Speaker 1: But you feel comfortable moving Lawrence to left in the
Speaker 1: interim and I mean, that's exactly what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: And you might you might be a situation where you'd say, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you just with Mincy. Mincy's gonna be gone potentially
Speaker 1: after this year. So what you would do then is
Speaker 1: you would say, Okay, hard he's gone, Mincy's gone. Now
Speaker 1: you're gonna need a right defensive end. I think that
Speaker 1: they would go and draft somebody like a say Odgizoa
Speaker 1: would be to me, would be a guy that you
Speaker 1: could play in that rotation. It's not about who starts,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's about the rotation the who the
Speaker 1: best guys in that group are. But you want a
Speaker 1: guy with a better left end skill set, I think initially, yeah,
Speaker 1: they went to look for a right end. They got
Speaker 1: Hardy looking for a left end guy right now? All right?
Speaker 1: And actually two more great questions, I think because I
Speaker 1: just feel like there's a lot of doom and gloom
Speaker 1: about the running back position. Sure, because the Cowboys do
Speaker 1: not look well positioned to get the guys that everybody loves.
Speaker 1: So Jason wants to know, where do you see David
Speaker 1: Cobb going? And I feel like I just feel like
Speaker 1: people tend to forget that there are his value at
Speaker 1: running back beyond these guys. Anyway, David Cobb, what do
Speaker 1: y'all think? I would rather have Mike Davis myself, I
Speaker 1: know you probably feel differently about that. I would rather
Speaker 1: have Cobb. You know, the testing numbers aren't impressive, A
Speaker 1: four seven three forty years dash, and you know I
Speaker 1: get that, But the tape tape is good. Yeah, picks up.
Speaker 1: We talked about the Big ten runners with Tevin Coleman,
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon and all those guys. David Cobb was outstanding
Speaker 1: for a Minnesota offense where he was the featured guy.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a passing game. You knew Williams exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: with a bad quarterback exactly. You knew David Cobb was
Speaker 1: running it up the middle. And it's so refreshing to
Speaker 1: have said this before, to watch a running back who
Speaker 1: prefers to run between the tackles, and that's David Cobb.
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna be in somewhere in that
Speaker 1: third round mix. It could be early, it could be late. Really,
Speaker 1: it might depend on how many running backs going that
Speaker 1: second round. But David Cobb's gonna be part of probably
Speaker 1: part of that third round, maybe even in the fourth
Speaker 1: well to see other unning backs come off the board.
Speaker 1: I think if the Cowboys go for a stretch running back,
Speaker 1: not stretch as far as the scheme, if they go
Speaker 1: for a fourth round running back Buck Allan, Allan would
Speaker 1: be the guy that I think they would go after.
Speaker 1: In keeping with Dane talking about Big ten running backs,
Speaker 1: Corey also wants to know about Jeremy Langford. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that I thought was pretty impressive at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: And I mean talking later in the draft obviously, but
Speaker 1: again I think there's value and really fast at the
Speaker 1: combine too, the fastest forty hum on the running backs.
Speaker 1: He's a he's a good player, he's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's just hard to do. You have a shot to
Speaker 1: be wrong about him, because we're not. We're not We're
Speaker 1: not really enthusiastic about the guy. To me, it's hard
Speaker 1: to get excited about any one part of his game.
Speaker 1: I think I'm saying he's quality, he's he's a solid back,
Speaker 1: but I don't get excited about any one part and
Speaker 1: that he doesn't like Cod better than him. To be
Speaker 1: honest with you, Oh so do I And I mean
Speaker 1: I gave Lankford a fifth round grade. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's where he ends up. And I get he has
Speaker 1: a speed, but everything else I don't think he plays
Speaker 1: that fast that too. I mean, you know there's guy's
Speaker 1: in his draft, like the kid the Miami receiver that
Speaker 1: plays fast. You can watch him run, you mean, you
Speaker 1: know you see it. He's one of those guys where
Speaker 1: I would have never It looked like to me he
Speaker 1: trained to run fast with the combine to make up
Speaker 1: for the film that doesn't gluck. He's running fast. I
Speaker 1: just got a very interesting question based on that conversation.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna save it till after Twitter on the twenty,
Speaker 1: but I want to go back to that. Okayway we
Speaker 1: heard yesterday or I think yesterday. Earlier this week the
Speaker 1: Cowboys worked out Brett Hunley. Yeah, we've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about Bryce. Petty AJ wants to know, would you think
Speaker 1: that they would take a chance on Hunley at sixty
Speaker 1: second round pick? Well, you like him more than me? Well,
Speaker 1: I gave a fourth round grade. I don't know. There
Speaker 1: are two players I would take in the top one
Speaker 1: hundred picks this year, and that's the top two. Winston
Speaker 1: to Mariota, Oh, would not take another quarterback. But those
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks, Brett Hunley, Bryce Petty, and Garrett Grayson, I
Speaker 1: think they're all all three of those guys are gonna
Speaker 1: go stwhere in the top one hundred. So I think
Speaker 1: where you have to get them is not worth where
Speaker 1: they're gonna go. I was agonizing about my top fifty lists.
Speaker 1: It's gonna go out next week, and I was agonizing,
Speaker 1: and I put Bryce Petty at number forty nine on
Speaker 1: my list. So you would too, would take climbed if
Speaker 1: you have climbed the ladder on mister Petty over there.
Speaker 1: I just you know what, Okay, you know if I
Speaker 1: if I bust this one, fine, then I then don't
Speaker 1: let me do quarterbacks. You're you're right. He's going to
Speaker 1: be drafted right now. I have n't going to the Rams.
Speaker 1: And in the early second round, I'd say the two
Speaker 1: teams to look at the Saints and the Rams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: watch those two teams in the early second round. There's
Speaker 1: just too many, too many mental traits and physical traits
Speaker 1: not to take a shot at this guy. That that's
Speaker 1: just me. Well, and that's the thing with the quarterback
Speaker 1: position is whether or not. I don't think any of
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks after the top two are going to be
Speaker 1: worth where they're they're actually drafted. But it's it's a
Speaker 1: quarterback position. And if you could potentially hit on one
Speaker 1: of these guys, you're gonna be drafted earlier. When then
Speaker 1: where then where the tape says they should be taking?
Speaker 1: Are you going to rip somebody for drafting one of
Speaker 1: these guys early, a Manion or a Petty. If it's Manion,
Speaker 1: I will because I hates man He's a priority for agent.
Speaker 1: To me, he's he's a strong word, he's he's a
Speaker 1: Tony Pike. He's Uh. If he can figure out a
Speaker 1: way to speed up his process, then I could see
Speaker 1: if he's an only quarterback. Yeah, and and that's a's
Speaker 1: a feather in his cap. But to me, I am
Speaker 1: nice try basically, I mean, I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: need more out of my quarterback to spend a draft
Speaker 1: pick on I especially in a top one hundred, there
Speaker 1: was our future start. If I picked him in the
Speaker 1: seventh well, you know when you get to the six
Speaker 1: and seventh rounds, you know draft today, Well, Sean Mannion,
Speaker 1: I think he might come off the board in the
Speaker 1: fourth of the fifth. Sure we're talking about these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, they're gonna come off the board earlier
Speaker 1: and off with you, all right? The last since two
Speaker 1: thousand two? Okay, there get those numbers out of been
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five quarterbacks drafted? How many by
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Uh? One? When since two thousand two, one
Speaker 1: one one every other team is drafted at least three
Speaker 1: every other team, some as many as seven or eight.
Speaker 1: So it could it have to have to break that
Speaker 1: streak at some point. I'm gonna be the year this year.
Speaker 1: I'm on the Dustin Vaughan hype train. Dudes, the next
Speaker 1: dudes in all pro Yeah, um, okay, where were we?
Speaker 1: I'd feel great about taking Hunley in the fourth round,
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't pro any shot he'd be there,
Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, I've one twenty seven overall for
Speaker 1: Unley more than in Petty. I know Petty won't be
Speaker 1: there in the fourth. I don't really think Hunley will
Speaker 1: be either anyway. Um, he just told it that they're
Speaker 1: not going to be there, all right. So you know,
Speaker 1: since we got so much attention for our Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: conversation over the last Dayngratulations, yeah, congratulations. This is I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, this kind of goes in line with what
Speaker 1: we've been talking about. I think it's interesting. So Scott says,
Speaker 1: your boy Byron Jones is there at twenty seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Vikings want your first, they want twenty seven, and
Speaker 1: they want next year's second, and they'll restructure Peterson's contract
Speaker 1: and you can get Peterson. You take Byron or do
Speaker 1: you take the deal? Wait? Wait, wait, okay that again. Sorry, okay,
Speaker 1: you sell like me trying to explain to trade. Vikings
Speaker 1: are willing to restructure Peterson and they want seven and
Speaker 1: next year's too. To make the so Peterson's on the board.
Speaker 1: I can get Peterson for twenty seven. You can, well,
Speaker 1: you can. You can get Byron Jones. Oh, Byron Jones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can draft Byron Jones at twenty seven. Or you
Speaker 1: can't make this, give it up for Adrian Peterson and
Speaker 1: next year's too. Oh and next year's too. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that. Dane is emphatic. You seem to be sitting
Speaker 1: there not saying anything. Well, I'm thinking that I'm hopeful
Speaker 1: that I could just maybe do it for my one.
Speaker 1: I just that's not what I know. I know, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, no, it's no that way, Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up a first round pick for a
Speaker 1: group peer. Yeah, I mean, that's where I stand on it.
Speaker 1: But if I if I can give up a second
Speaker 1: and a fourth if I but I just told you
Speaker 1: Dane that I can't. At twenty seven, I might be
Speaker 1: looking at Kendricks and you're looking at Byron. You're looking
Speaker 1: at I like Byron Jones. I like I like Kevin
Speaker 1: Johnson better. You made Byron your pick in the draft?
Speaker 1: I did. I like him better? I do like him,
Speaker 1: I do. It's Adrian Peterson sounds so conflicting. The two
Speaker 1: next year's got me kind of messed up. That's what
Speaker 1: That's where I get kind of you know. So for
Speaker 1: a one, if it's just a one, if it's a
Speaker 1: straight one, I'll give up Barn Jones for Adrian Peterson. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's not though, so for multiple picks, one of them
Speaker 1: in the future, you're not I have to give Why
Speaker 1: can't I just give them the twenty seventh pick because
Speaker 1: they want more than that. He's a Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: running back. I don't have to give them a one
Speaker 1: in a two. I don't have to ask you this.
Speaker 1: What do you think Jerry would give up? I've watched
Speaker 1: even up two ones for Joey Galloway, So don't don't
Speaker 1: think he would give up a one in a future
Speaker 1: or two that well, obviously, who's who's the Jilian Wood? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's the joleman here? His name is Scott Scott. He
Speaker 1: Scott might be with the owner. I'm I'm trouble with that.
Speaker 1: I think Jerry giving the one. I think Jerry would
Speaker 1: give up the new facility. I'll tell you one thing though.
Speaker 1: He hates. He hates sitting there without picks. He I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen to do it. There's nothing worse thing in
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, there's nothing worse than sitting there. No
Speaker 1: one you gave up? Yeah, no more. All right, we'd
Speaker 1: spend enough time on the purple one. Uh. Cowboys Blog
Speaker 1: Legal not involved here today. Day. It's been an interesting morning,
Speaker 1: all right. Defensive tackle, Yeah has not been. This is
Speaker 1: from Cowboys Blog Defensive Tackle. They didn't bring any in it. Really,
Speaker 1: it does not seem like it's an emphasis. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: is it is it dumb to think that? I mean,
Speaker 1: do they feel that good? About the guys on this roster. No,
Speaker 1: they wanted they wanted more athletic. Uh, they wanted more
Speaker 1: athletic Nick Hayden. But they're not going to take one
Speaker 1: at twenty set. But do you think they'll take one anywhere?
Speaker 1: Do you think a defensive tackle will be in this
Speaker 1: draft class? I would take nudist Roaches if it was me.
Speaker 1: It's stunning Jarrett, Grady Jarrett. I'd take Grady Jarrett. How
Speaker 1: many years in a row has tackle been in? And like,
Speaker 1: they drafted Kish Bishop last year, but that hardly counts.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's away from Bishop is a nice rotational
Speaker 1: player that might not dress every week. But it's stunning
Speaker 1: to me to think that you could go like three
Speaker 1: years without addressing the position in the top. They really
Speaker 1: do like Teroll mcclin. Yeah, really do like Terrell mcclin.
Speaker 1: He flashed, Yeah, And that's where that's where I think,
Speaker 1: you know, and out there, I know fans are going, oh,
Speaker 1: Terrell mcclin. What But to me, if you're gonna go
Speaker 1: drafted guy Nunis, Roaches or Jared one of those guys
Speaker 1: would be perfect for how they want to play their scheme.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm talking they you know, maybe not
Speaker 1: at the maybe those guys are more threes. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know if the one, I just don't talking to Marinelli.
Speaker 1: It's all about pass rush with him. Yeah. If you
Speaker 1: can't rush the passer at one, he's not He doesn't
Speaker 1: want you. But they want I know that for a fact.
Speaker 1: They want a more athletic one technique And might be
Speaker 1: McClean as a writer. I've got no beef with Terrell mcclin,
Speaker 1: but I hate having to differentiate between two mcclin's. It's
Speaker 1: terrible row anyway, Roll McClain and T McClain. Justin wants
Speaker 1: to know. This is I mean, I don't care what
Speaker 1: you say. This is your pet cat U. With Frank
Speaker 1: Clark's baggage. Oh wait a minute, now, with Frank Clark's baggage,
Speaker 1: where do you see the cowboys taking him? If you
Speaker 1: don't know, he was kicked off Michigan's program in the
Speaker 1: fall for domestic violence arrests, got into a skirmish with
Speaker 1: his girlfriend. I think, yeah, well it's not she was
Speaker 1: fighting back too, and it's like, that's not It was
Speaker 1: a two way fight. We're probably talking about a first
Speaker 1: or second round talent that's now being talking second round Dane.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, talent wise, Yeah, yeah, so the way he
Speaker 1: can push the pocket. Make a call here, where are
Speaker 1: you comfortable with this guy? Well taken? Where am I comfortable?
Speaker 1: Or where he's going to be drafted? Where's gonna be drafted?
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a good chance he ends
Speaker 1: up in a third Yeah. I had him, I mocked him.
Speaker 1: I had mocked him before in the seventh. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: put him in the fourth this time around third, fourth round.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's where he's gonna end up. The
Speaker 1: guy who sits in that chair that that at first
Speaker 1: office inside the draft room. Yeah, he is a fan
Speaker 1: of Frank Clark with he would figure out a way
Speaker 1: to get Frank Clark. Last week it came down that
Speaker 1: those domestic violence charges are being dropped. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: that's the big something that happened. I'm not right, something happened, right,
Speaker 1: something happened. But the fact that those charges are being
Speaker 1: dropped that that helps his cause. You know, teams have
Speaker 1: done a lot of research on this kid. Uh, he's talented,
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. Watch the Michigan tape. Smoke again,
Speaker 1: there's there's some baggage here, because it's more than just that.
Speaker 1: There's there's some stuff in his past that you know,
Speaker 1: you have to look at two. So it's a I
Speaker 1: think he ends up going. You know, I'm proud of
Speaker 1: you for saying that. Well, it's where I think he
Speaker 1: ends up going. I gave him me personally, I gave
Speaker 1: him a fifth. That's where I would feel comfortable of
Speaker 1: taking him. But I don't think he's gonna last out
Speaker 1: long if he goes off the board in the third,
Speaker 1: which you acknowledge the pick as a good one. If
Speaker 1: you're sitting in a war room like I used to do. Wait, wait,
Speaker 1: you know we I used to sit there when somebody
Speaker 1: would take somebody and I'd go, damn good pick good.
Speaker 1: I'd say it to myself, Wait to go jets, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: good pick potentially yes, And that's I mean, I'm riding
Speaker 1: the fence there. But the thing is they don't want
Speaker 1: to with a player like this, with his history of baggage,
Speaker 1: with not one scident, not two incidents. There's a couple incidents,
Speaker 1: you know, more than two. There's a wait and see
Speaker 1: approach with Okay, I at some point and I know
Speaker 1: it's not the boy scout sihada yaday adda, all that
Speaker 1: good stuff. I get it, But at some point I
Speaker 1: think you gotta worry about stuff like that, especially you
Speaker 1: signed Hardy, your backup running backs been in some trouble
Speaker 1: with the same type of stuff. You know, I would
Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking him in the fifth you become really
Speaker 1: you bother me. Now, you got a gag. I'm not
Speaker 1: a general manager, but you will. But you bother me
Speaker 1: in this little game we play. You know where we
Speaker 1: try and I think you know you have to leave
Speaker 1: surprises me, leave an iota of like conscience and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. I think. I mean, you're talking gotta have
Speaker 1: guts and you know what you're to run a team
Speaker 1: you do, you have to have guts. The locker room
Speaker 1: culture here has been transformed by coach. Well, I'm terrified
Speaker 1: that I'm terrified they're going to ruin it because they're
Speaker 1: taking I mean, you start taking too many chances and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're sterling. Locker room is not
Speaker 1: so sterling. He's not wrong anyway. His coach makes five
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Figuring every every player has a
Speaker 1: different story, every player. You have to take you know,
Speaker 1: with the with the different perspective about where they come,
Speaker 1: what happened, all the all the details, I feel comfortable
Speaker 1: in the fifth or later. I think he probably will
Speaker 1: go higher than that anyway. Last one, yeah, last one junior,
Speaker 1: all right, Tevin Coleman blew people away with his forty
Speaker 1: time in Indian I mean the thought of him lasting
Speaker 1: to sixty seems laughable. Yeah, with that in mind, would
Speaker 1: you trade your third round pick ala DeMarcus Lawrence to
Speaker 1: move up into the higher into the second round and
Speaker 1: draft him? What the question of the day. I think
Speaker 1: that's something that we need to talk about because it's
Speaker 1: a possibility, because that's what they might have to do
Speaker 1: to get their running back. And with Tevin Coleman, forget
Speaker 1: the forty time it was it was the scouts I
Speaker 1: talked too. Was in the mid four fours, which is good.
Speaker 1: It's a great forty time. But it's not like he's
Speaker 1: gonna be moving up the board now. I got the time.
Speaker 1: It was it was four four two. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: taking him a twenty seven at least in my opinion.
Speaker 1: I don't think that forty time pushes him into the
Speaker 1: conversation at twenty seven but I do think it's worth
Speaker 1: talking about moving up from sixty into the top fifty,
Speaker 1: maybe in the top forty, to make sure you get
Speaker 1: him and talk about that running back run. It's unpredictable
Speaker 1: wherever aart, so I think the possibility. I agree, it's
Speaker 1: not change in my mind. I know we've all have
Speaker 1: our pet cat running backs. Coleman to me, was always
Speaker 1: going to be a guy that was a second round player.
Speaker 1: I was praying he would get to sixty. I don't
Speaker 1: believe he gets to sixty. If you if you told
Speaker 1: me that you're definitely getting your running back that you
Speaker 1: feel good about, that's good enough to be the one
Speaker 1: or two immediately, Yeah, I would do it. But I
Speaker 1: feel leery about drafting at forty five and then not
Speaker 1: picking again until one twenty seven. Yeah, that doesn't That
Speaker 1: doesn't sit well with me. Scarty general matter I am.
Speaker 1: I'm a scaredy cat. That's why. That's why I don't
Speaker 1: get paid the big bucks. All right, everybody, thank you
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Speaker 1: it's such a fun night. Man, Like I know, I
Speaker 1: get cynical and jaded, and I like the NFL tries
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Speaker 1: so you can answer you ask your questions. We'll try
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Speaker 1: the show to Kent Garrison, Kent, what we got Yes,
Speaker 1: Sean and Virginia Beach, Virginia. We're doing great. What's your question?
Speaker 1: How's it going guys? Great show, Great show. Um. I
Speaker 1: was wondering, let's just say the Cowboys addressed the need
Speaker 1: at corner in the first round, maybe like a guy
Speaker 1: like Kevin Johnson or Marcus Peters. And considering the amount
Speaker 1: of compository picks that we have next year, do you
Speaker 1: see the Cowboys possibly using a good number of those
Speaker 1: to move up in the second round to maybe get
Speaker 1: a running back. What do you guys say, great show,
Speaker 1: Thank you Cowboys. So, don't have any compensatory picks in
Speaker 1: this draft, and you're not allowed to trade. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't trade those and ill I mean I think he
Speaker 1: was talking about next year, which they don't have those anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't. I was talking, I was talking some I
Speaker 1: was talking to one of the pro guys about this
Speaker 1: right now, without adding anybody, they've got three that they
Speaker 1: think about. So when you talk about just adding bodies,
Speaker 1: maybe adding a swing tackle or something like that, they
Speaker 1: want to try and keep that number where they get three.
Speaker 1: I gotta believe that you figure one of those a
Speaker 1: third rounder. I gotta believe that that Murray is going
Speaker 1: to net them, you know, top one hundred. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: could very well. Yeah. There usually are about four or
Speaker 1: five in the third round, third round, pit third rounds.
Speaker 1: So and I think for de Marco Murray, first team
Speaker 1: All Pro. And it's based on money too, yeah, and
Speaker 1: the money that I think the first one, the first
Speaker 1: one will come at ninety seven in this draft, right
Speaker 1: that's New England. So I think they I think they
Speaker 1: could be in line to get one of those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance to Marco Murray nests
Speaker 1: and that's something to watch at this time next year.
Speaker 1: You know, will it be a third or fourth? I
Speaker 1: think a good chances. But they're conscious about just adding
Speaker 1: a guy just they don't want to mess up that
Speaker 1: number because they got three rights and that's that's it's
Speaker 1: refreshing to hear that, absolutely, yes, that the good teams
Speaker 1: do True Blue in California. True Blue? What you got? Yeah? Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up you guys? Hey, how's it going? All right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I just had a question about the first sick. I
Speaker 1: think we should pick that U from LSU. What do
Speaker 1: you guys think? Okay, Neil Hunter? The Neil Hunter interesting
Speaker 1: because he is a guy. Cowboys evshowing some interest in
Speaker 1: true there's a guy. What's his value? Is it a
Speaker 1: second round? Do they see him as a secon round player?
Speaker 1: If all the first round players are off the board
Speaker 1: by twenty seven? Is he a player you consider there?
Speaker 1: Is he on the same plane as O DIGGI zoa
Speaker 1: for you right? I would take me personally. They brought
Speaker 1: in Eli Harold, I would take Eli Harold over him.
Speaker 1: I would take Odiggy over him. Uh, those are the
Speaker 1: two guys that kind of in that same bottle of wine,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean we could talk about uh Dupree
Speaker 1: and those guys up there that I think they brought
Speaker 1: in that they're probably if you trade it up to
Speaker 1: get but I would be more comfortable taking And I'm
Speaker 1: an LSU guy, and I know you're an LSU guy
Speaker 1: and you probably have a better thought about him than
Speaker 1: I do. I wouldn't touch him at twenty seven, but
Speaker 1: you could talk me into it at sixty. I actually
Speaker 1: talk to somebody on the coaching staff about him yesterday
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I was dogging him. I'm an
Speaker 1: LSU fan. He had one and a half sacks this
Speaker 1: last year. Just really, I'm straight up, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a physical freak, right, but physically look doesn't have the
Speaker 1: production right joke, but this uh made a great He
Speaker 1: was like he's twenty years old. Yeah, And that's a
Speaker 1: pretty good point, October, if you if you could get him,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take him in the first round, but if
Speaker 1: he's there at sixty, I would take him on potential,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a good chance he land somewhere
Speaker 1: in that second round because of that potential. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you mentioned it with the sack and the production. Four
Speaker 1: and a half sacks over twenty three starts is not
Speaker 1: what you want at that position. But you look, you know,
Speaker 1: that's one. That's one piece of paper. You look on
Speaker 1: the other piece of paper, which is a combine stats
Speaker 1: with you know, a four, five, seven, forty sure, thirty
Speaker 1: four and a quarter in charms. It's you know, it
Speaker 1: looks a part on paper. So people people love to
Speaker 1: compare him to JPP. I mean, it's an easy it's
Speaker 1: an easy but I think even JPP was more accomplished
Speaker 1: in college. The honor for sure, you was, Yeah, Ki,
Speaker 1: Sam and san Antonio, you're up. Thanks, Thanks, Sig McCall.
Speaker 1: Where to go in and ask you this question? You know,
Speaker 1: I know you mine has mentioned of course, there's to
Speaker 1: me a run on cornerbacks possible before the Cowboys even
Speaker 1: you know, get an opportunity to go and grab one
Speaker 1: if you will. Uh, let's say there's no first front
Speaker 1: quarterbacks there and obviously guys like Gurley are gone. Would
Speaker 1: it be fair to go ahead and ask, you know,
Speaker 1: should the Cowboys direct their attention maybe even to you know,
Speaker 1: beating up paying the same attention to the defensive line
Speaker 1: that they did with the offensive line, hopes that would
Speaker 1: have improved the secondary. Because there's no guarantee that car
Speaker 1: is going to be gone. Maybe they can still work
Speaker 1: on a pay cup restructure deal by June first and
Speaker 1: hoping that that would help him play better, and then
Speaker 1: by improving the defensive line, you get improved play from
Speaker 1: your secondary. I want to get your thoughts on that, fellas.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, it's kind of what we were talking about.
Speaker 1: Who's that guy? Is it? Is it Harold Odiggy? You know?
Speaker 1: To me, that's where you're gonna if if if the
Speaker 1: corners are wiped out, the runners are wiped out, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna come down to a linebacker or a
Speaker 1: defensive end. And let's say the trade options aren't very appealing.
Speaker 1: You're not you knows not buzzing, so you have to
Speaker 1: pick a twenty seven. Let me throw a name at you.
Speaker 1: What do you think about him? At twenty seven? Mario
Speaker 1: Edwards Junior out of Florida State. He stuck his skyrocket
Speaker 1: and it since that FSU produce. I would do a
Speaker 1: cartwheel out of this studio right now if you let
Speaker 1: me do that. Last year, if you if you said
Speaker 1: at twenty seven. The problem I'm running into with him
Speaker 1: is that, you know, I've seen and kind of bother
Speaker 1: scouts so much because you're taught. If you've seen it
Speaker 1: one time, you'll see it again. And I saw like
Speaker 1: a National championship game last year, you know where he
Speaker 1: was awesome against Auburn. Yeah, Greg Robinson who I really
Speaker 1: liked Greg Robinson or two overall, and I I would
Speaker 1: say this that if I knew that I was gonna
Speaker 1: get that player, I would I would be all over
Speaker 1: that right now. Now again, that would be do I
Speaker 1: like him better than Harold and o'diggy. I can't say
Speaker 1: that I do. I can't say that I do. But
Speaker 1: if again, if that guy was two years ago, I
Speaker 1: would be all in on that one. Jason Lock and
Speaker 1: Flora wrote, I think on Monday that don't be surprised
Speaker 1: if he goes at eleven like he said he could
Speaker 1: go in the teams. Yeah that's something that Yeah, well
Speaker 1: that's that's Minnesota eleven, Cleveland at twelve, New Orleans at thirteen,
Speaker 1: it's I mean and Grant, I mean, he's dropped something
Speaker 1: like thirty pounds since the start of his It does
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you're trying to you're
Speaker 1: trying to you're projected if he would have stayed the
Speaker 1: same weight throughout. But I've said it before on this show.
Speaker 1: He was a big tub of you know what, a
Speaker 1: big old rear and you know, if he was playing inside,
Speaker 1: you would go okay, drop of that. Well yeahs at
Speaker 1: one point you thought, oh he might be a better
Speaker 1: Yeah right now, coach, he's too fat or it's too fat,
Speaker 1: right well, and that's what's gonna happen after you start
Speaker 1: giving him, you know, million dollar paychecks. Is he gonna
Speaker 1: be you know, does he have the incentive? I love
Speaker 1: your idea, I do. I love your idea. I just
Speaker 1: am scared to death. Now I'm playing you where I'm
Speaker 1: scared to death. I'm with you. I'm I'm playing Devil's
Speaker 1: advocate because I think there's a good chance he ends
Speaker 1: up in the first round and he might be in
Speaker 1: the conversation for this team at twenty seven. There are
Speaker 1: some surprises when that when that Tennessee tackle went off
Speaker 1: the board last year to Miami at Jwan James, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like going, okay, well, and that's that's the
Speaker 1: beauty of the draft because it doesn't matter. I don't
Speaker 1: care what we think. No, yeah, exactly, I don't care.
Speaker 1: You could have you know, Ted Thompson in this room,
Speaker 1: one of the best gms in the league, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what he thinks. All it takes is one
Speaker 1: team to like a player. And you know, with Mario Edwards,
Speaker 1: I you know have it in my report, he's a
Speaker 1: top forty talent in this draft. But when you factor
Speaker 1: in everything, I just have a tough time taking him
Speaker 1: in the first I have a tough time taking him
Speaker 1: in the second. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to keep the weight in line. Man, I
Speaker 1: want to I want to clarify, Like, we've talked a
Speaker 1: lot about cornerback, and I remember last year, you know,
Speaker 1: and I still feel this way. I think the easiest
Speaker 1: way to make a secondary better is to improve the
Speaker 1: pass rush, right. I think the reason that at least
Speaker 1: I've been focused more on cornerback during the lead up
Speaker 1: to this draft is just that I feel better about
Speaker 1: what might be there as far as cornerbacks than I
Speaker 1: do pass The quality of player will be there, the
Speaker 1: quality of corner That's why I asked early in the program.
Speaker 1: Is that where you're saying, okay, is that really the
Speaker 1: deepest position in the first round if you're one of
Speaker 1: these teams like, Okay, I don't want a I don't
Speaker 1: want a Randy Gregory maybe right, you know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would rather take it Kevin Johnson, I think could be.
Speaker 1: I think I don't want an Eli Harold maybe right.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm trying to say. I feel better
Speaker 1: about these corners than the guys that will be there
Speaker 1: as far as I mean, Yeah, that's what I was
Speaker 1: trying to convey to me. I could have Leonard Williams. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: You guys are kind of shooting me down though, when
Speaker 1: I was talking about maybe these quarters will be all gone,
Speaker 1: looking at me like, whoa, hello, Bryan. I just think
Speaker 1: it's a better chance that I mean, there's enough of
Speaker 1: them there, is what I'm saying, as opposed to one
Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, can't going overseas now to Roman in Germany?
Speaker 1: All right, Roman International talk. Hi, guys, Hello. I heard
Speaker 1: you talking about Jeremy Langford a few minutes ago, and
Speaker 1: I have to tell you I'm a huge fan of him. Okay,
Speaker 1: and to me, he looks a lot like de Marco Murray. Okay,
Speaker 1: in his tough running, his versatility, catching the ball out
Speaker 1: of the backfield, being able to pay protect, having great vision,
Speaker 1: and also after the combine. I'm compared those the results
Speaker 1: of his and Murray, and they are pretty much the same.
Speaker 1: So to me, he's like a really good fit for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense. So yeah, I hang up now and
Speaker 1: listen to what. Okay, thank you very much for the call.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you making the time to do that. Can
Speaker 1: I just say how awesome it is that a guy
Speaker 1: with a German accents telling us about a fifth round
Speaker 1: running back. Football is the best? Yeah? Football, I mean
Speaker 1: I love soccer, but you can't beat football. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're worldwide out here. You know, I didn't see and
Speaker 1: I again, thank you so much for the call. I
Speaker 1: didn't see that explosiveness. I didn't see the quickness. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking through my notes, you know, I didn't see
Speaker 1: a guy that can run himself out of trouble. I
Speaker 1: thought he was more of a plotter. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think I would describe maybe DeMarco Murray is
Speaker 1: a plotter the way he runs a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: I just I didn't see Murray was a guy could
Speaker 1: turn the corner. Don't see it with this guy vision balance.
Speaker 1: I agree with him on that, but you know, I
Speaker 1: just I didn't see. I mean, the one game I
Speaker 1: looked at better shifty runs against Ohio State. I actually,
Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to bring up back during
Speaker 1: her on the twenty and it's a great opportunity. When
Speaker 1: they drafted Joseph Randall in the fifth round in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: we were sold on him being Murray's primary backup guy
Speaker 1: who was expected to carry some of the load immediately, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not remembering that wrong, right, So it just seems like,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Murray's gone. I realized that, but it's like,
Speaker 1: if you you know, there's this emphasis that if you
Speaker 1: don't get your guy by sixty, you're screwed, basically, and
Speaker 1: I don't really know that I buy that because we're
Speaker 1: I mean, we were talking about Randall two years ago
Speaker 1: as a guy that you could count on as a rookie,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, people are or maybe we're losing
Speaker 1: side of the fact that you can get value that
Speaker 1: late in the draft. I guess that's my point. How
Speaker 1: much better with Randall than some of these. There's better guys.
Speaker 1: He's talking about Cobb and guys like that. I think
Speaker 1: there's better better than Cobb Randall Cobb. When it comes Lankford,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean, I mean, this isn't specifically about Jeremy Langford.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to imply that it was right. No, Well,
Speaker 1: and just back to you know, the caller's question about
Speaker 1: about Lankford. I he's a good player in the productions there.
Speaker 1: He rushed for almost three thousand yards um, you know,
Speaker 1: last two years at Michigan State, Right, But I don't
Speaker 1: one of the big things. We're running backs, at least
Speaker 1: for me. I want to see what you do after
Speaker 1: initial contact, right, And with Lankford, I don't see that.
Speaker 1: I don't He doesn't consistently run behind his pads where
Speaker 1: he can, you know, be have an impact um. And
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the strength of the quickness I see
Speaker 1: with Murray either, But I don't know with Lankford. I
Speaker 1: I see more of a fifth round guys, basically see
Speaker 1: what and the comparacon is making. Because I was reading
Speaker 1: through my notes, there was times where you saw the
Speaker 1: mark and where you line up as a receiver right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lankford doing the same the games I did Oregon, Nebraska
Speaker 1: and Ohio State. So we're gonna take one more call
Speaker 1: and then we've got to say goodbye for the day. Kent.
Speaker 1: What do you got? Sean in New York? Sean, you're
Speaker 1: the last caller? What you got? Yes? I want to
Speaker 1: know your guy's OPAI about if we take the twenty seven,
Speaker 1: the running back from Indiana Coleman and with the sixty
Speaker 1: pick random from Arizona State. If it was, if you
Speaker 1: guys would be happy to those to pick. I want
Speaker 1: you guys to play on that. Thanks, thanks, man, appreciate
Speaker 1: the call. I would be very happy with that. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if I resident of the fan
Speaker 1: club of Tevin Coleman, Are you comfortable taking my twenty seven?
Speaker 1: You know what? It might it might come down to
Speaker 1: having to do that. Yes, I am, because he's my
Speaker 1: second best running you know, and I just he's in
Speaker 1: my top fifty. I just said you can find value
Speaker 1: later on. But I keep thinking about Travis Frederick and
Speaker 1: what we talked about way back at the beginning. For
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, is this not a second round pick? No? No,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, it is. It's a second round pick.
Speaker 1: If you got a second round grade on the guy,
Speaker 1: if you think he's your guy, I'm okay with. There's
Speaker 1: some guys I wouldn't be comfortable with, but maybe I would.
Speaker 1: I would rather take him. Okay, they're gonna, they're gonna.
Speaker 1: If I just said this, I think they're gonna take
Speaker 1: Kendricks or o'diggy. I would be more comfortable taking a
Speaker 1: guy like Coleman than I would Kendricks or where's Coleman
Speaker 1: on your top fifty? Coleman is twenty five? Maybe? Okay?
Speaker 1: So for you twenty seven? Yeah, I'm a homer right
Speaker 1: right there, big homer. Well no, if that's what your
Speaker 1: eyes tell you you, that's it. If you overpay for
Speaker 1: Coleman or a Gie and they run for a thousand,
Speaker 1: GI's not too far behind, by the way, but he's
Speaker 1: put him away, couple. He should be twenty four, he's
Speaker 1: not know he's damn well, he's not the Jay train.
Speaker 1: The jay train, all right. He's good back though, and
Speaker 1: Randall at sixty he's not gonna make it there. But
Speaker 1: I take I'm with you on that. I could player. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all the time. We have we will be inside
Speaker 1: six days. Yeah of the draft. There, we've already had
Speaker 1: a first round. When we get back, well, no, we
Speaker 1: have one week, another another trying to make I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I know I'm trying. I'm trying to get it here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get here. So thanks everybody out there
Speaker 1: that called, Thanks everybody tweeted us questions. Uh, thank you
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