WEBVTT - Draft Show: Interest In Hundley? Is DL A Possibility At 27? 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:07.160 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys your 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.920 war room for insider news and draft analysis from deep 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.440 within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Ranch, Dallas 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:20.360 Cowboys Select and Now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:25.079 and Brian brought us Welcome once again to the Draft 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.440 Show from the s WBC Mortgage studios here at Valley Ranch. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.840 Brian brought us along with Dane Brugler, CBS Sports David Hellman. Morning, 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.760 how are we doing, guys? Thirteen days? Thirteen days? Can't 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.599 wait this boat. We started off feel a little bit 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:47.839 like I'm gonna show my history knowledge. Mcgellan. Wow, what 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.440 does guys? What did Magellan do? I don't know. He's 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.680 something famous. He needed the pen of the s interview. 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.480 But that was Columbus, Columbus. That's Columbus. Magellan was the 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.000 first guy that circumnavigate the globe. Oh, that's what we've 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.160 been doing in this Draft show. Really, I think so okay, 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.280 I think we've carried this thing. It's to the point 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.720 where I'm excited about it. I'm anxious about it. I'm 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.600 excited about the actual draft. I'm getting a little worn 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.520 down by shouldn't get shouldn't get worn down by speculation. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.840 I think that's what makes the draft great. There's so 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.920 many scenarios, you know, and that's that's what mock drafts are. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:25.120 Like I've been doing. I've done probably one hundred mock drafts. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.039 Ye know, I'm not an exaggeration. No, it's not. It's 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:30.920 are you running out of ideas? Well? Yeah, And the 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:32.920 point of these mock drafts, I'm not trying to be 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.720 one hundred percent accurate, you know, Like it's I don't 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.280 really care. Yeah, I just want to look at different scenarios. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.319 You know. Okay, if if Mark's Mariota ends up going 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.280 number two, how does that, you know play out? What's 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.400 the ripple effect? The draft's fascinating because one pick in 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.080 the top ten that's different than we think can have 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.640 a ripple effect that changes everything down the line. And 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.920 whether that's a quarterback or you know, whatever it ends 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.600 up being. That's the fascinating thing about the draft. There's 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.280 so many different scenarios. It's more unpredictable than the NCAA tournament, 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.440 I mean, anything out there. So that's what makes it great. Yeah, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.079 I've I've grown this time of year, and those guys 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.000 are sitting in that draft room right now putting together 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.120 their board. And this was always an exciting time for 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.400 me because you had, you had all the you were 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.280 starting to do the film work. I mean, you're getting 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.000 you're getting a general manager and Stephen and all of them, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.920 and Garrett, you're getting them up to speed. There's a 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.639 lot of things that you know you already had known about. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.000 But the fact that you have the medicals, you know, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.640 we get the girly recheck this weekend, the fact that 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.200 he was here last weekend. They have a real good 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:42.080 understanding of where that knee at is. But the further 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:45.920 we've gone along here, I'm starting to realize you talked 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.920 about mock drafts. I'm starting to feel like that there's 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.160 certain players that just aren't going to be there. Yeah, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.120 you know, guys like you say, we've talked about Dane. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.200 You brought it up a long time ago about the 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.640 cornerback situation, and we've talked about Dave. You've gone on 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:06.040 record about this situation here with the Cowboys. The more 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.320 you look at all these teams ahead of Dallas, the 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.560 more likely that they might not get the opportunity to 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.160 draft a Jones or A Peters or somebody like that. See, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:18.799 I feel like I kind of disagree with you there. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.079 I mean, yeah, I get what you're saying, but I 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.480 at this point in time, I feel like of the 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.560 positions that we agree that they would want slash need, 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.160 I feel like cornerback is the best bet for there 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:35.400 to be a good pick there defensive end or linebacker myself. See, 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.120 And that's the unpredictable part of the draft is the 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.440 corner situation. How many corners are off the board and 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.880 you know, just looking at the top said it's top 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:48.840 four with Wayne's Byron Jones, Kevin Johnson, and Marcus Peters, 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.320 whatever order that ends up going. Well, one of those 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.200 four guys be on the board for the Cowboys at 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.000 twenty seven. If they are, I think that's the pick it. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.640 If they're not, I agree, then let me let me 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.120 just me just throw some stuff out. Who are you thinking? 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.200 And it's gonna be there a defensive end o Diggie, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.760 oh DIGGI yeah, I think I think this is gonna 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.040 sound funny, but I think one of the UCLA kids 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.240 is going to be taking ads. Yeah, Kendricks or Odiggie 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.160 at twenty seven. I do because I just going through 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.719 and I did this on Talking Cowboys U the other day, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.160 and I started with Tennessee at two, and I'm just 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.120 teams that could use a cornerbacks, maybe as a top 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.000 three need. Yeah, we'll get into it more next week. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.440 I want to get into some more of these guys 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.240 as far as needs and stuff. Tennessee at two, Jacksonville 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:38.280 at three, Oakland at four. St. Louis at ten, Minnesota 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.360 at eleven, New Orleans at thirteen, Miami at fourteen. Well, 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.479 and Dane's been saying this all spring. That's the point 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.039 of trying to make there isn't a team on that 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.080 list that doesn't need. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.200 I mean, as far as one of the three team needs. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.520 Now you know, well the quality of the corner stretch, 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.599 I thought it would stretch until you go in and 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.839 start physically saying, okay, you know, what does the San 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.479 Diego Chargers need? What do the Kansas City Chiefs needs? 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.599 And that that's what I mean. Yeah, everybody on that 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.000 list could use a cornerback. I mean, you know, as 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.000 a top three need top three. But also there's plenty 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.279 of teams I mean for every team you just mentioned, 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.039 a few of them might need a Vic Beasley or 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.760 Dante Fowler's and that's true, and there might be other 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.240 teams also the need. I mean every all thirty two 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.800 teams could use another corner. I mean it might not 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.440 be in their top three need, but when they come 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.520 when it's their pick on the board, a corner might 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.600 be their top player on their board. My question in 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.880 do you guys is as in what you've seen, is 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:37.320 the corner back the best position in this draft for 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.200 the quality of the player, at least in the first round. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.720 I think so, I think there's um just an overall draft. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.000 You can't say the runners, well, can you? You can 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.640 maybe say your edge rushers? Well, if we're talking overall draft, yeah, 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.799 in terms of depth and you know, all things considered 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.719 UM to me, it's talking about corner yeah, talking about 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.520 wide receiver, running backs in there, and ash rusher. I 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.360 think those four positions are are in that conversation. And 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:05.960 I think depending on who you talk to, you get 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.760 different answer. Who the deepest position is? You know what 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.080 the best position is altogether? Because with running back we 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.240 might have ten in the top one hundred, right with 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.080 wide receiver. We're not probably not going to match last 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.440 year in terms of the star power, and we had 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.560 four receivers or a thousand yards receiving last year, but 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.800 the overall depth is outstanding. I mean, even if you 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.000 don't get one of those top three receivers the Maury Cooper, 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.680 Kevin White, Vante Parker, you can still get a Preshod 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.360 Perryman or a DGB or Jalen Strong, Nelson ogil Or. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.039 I mean the depth in each round's outstanding pass rushers outstanding. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.640 And then of course corner. So I think those four 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:42.240 positions are the ones from me I look at as 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.039 the deepest in the strongest in this draft. Do you 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.680 think the run will be so you're saying no, you 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:52.480 think more of a run at receiver, or you're saying 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.080 more of a run. Do you think the run's gonna 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.640 be a corner in the high corner with receiver. I 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:00.640 think that we're gonna we're gonna see the three receivers 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.560 off the board quickly, and then it's gonna be the 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:04.920 rest of the first round is gonna be a little 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.719 hit or miss. We might see Breshad Perriman go somewhere 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.520 in there Jalen Strong. Maybe you know, DGB, maybe if 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.560 Philip Dorset could sneak in there, we don't, you know, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.960 I think that's a possibility. I feel much stronger saying 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.800 that the corners we're gonna see five or six in 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.280 the first round. I think you'll see corners taken throughout 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.040 the first round, whereas I mean, yeah, I think there's 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.480 like probably two top twelve receivers and then you have 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.360 wait a little while before the next one. See, that's 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.600 what I'm trying to say. If maybe a guy like 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.840 I mocked last week or when we first did the 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.640 mock of Byron Jones, I don't have that. I don't 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.760 have that great feeling I put Byron Jones the Cowboys 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.520 that first time around, thinking that he was gonna be there, 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.360 And the more you really dive into this, I don't 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:50.080 think Byron Jones and even Peters are gonna be there 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.720 when Dallas picks at twenty seven four corner. And let's 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.880 let's get something straight with Byron Jones. I've got a 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.160 lot of questions about him being a workout warrior and 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:02.040 his combine boosting him up to the draft board, and 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.680 that's not the case. His tape matches. Oh absolutely, what 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.240 he the testing numbers that he put up. Absolutely. He 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.160 was caught up in a case of he was on 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.160 a terrible team at Yukon, terrible team, and he missed 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.160 almost all the most. He was out since October, so 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.280 he missed half the season, second half of the season, 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.680 so he didn't play the Senior Bowl. He was limited 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.040 throughout the pre draft process. So you know, he was 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.000 a little bit of underrated. I mean he went kind 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.920 of under the radar a little bit, but I mean 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.480 he's been on the radar. He just not a guy 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.200 we talked about a lot because of the injuries and 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.160 the fact that he was overlooked a little bit. But 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.400 he's His tape absolutely matches it. He's worth a top 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.640 twenty pick. Let me throw this to you because we 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.200 talked about trading back for a running back last week. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.000 All Right, you don't think the top four corners will 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.200 be there. I don't think you would want a draft 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.080 Row or Derby in at twenty seven. Is that ye? 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.360 Yes or no? You don't have to know. I know 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.200 I would if we If if I told you that 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.920 you could trade back into the mid thirties or even 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.120 forty and take one of those guys. Would you feel 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:06.440 better about it? Cornerback? I'm that's just the hypothetical. I'm 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.760 trying to think because I'm I'm more interested. I'm more 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.320 interested if I'm gonna trade back, I'm more interested in 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:17.400 getting one of those running backs me personally. I mean, 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.360 I understand your scenario that you're asking me about a corner, 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.000 my hypothetical and just to ignore it. No, I No, 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.440 I didn't ignore it. I'm just saying, though, if you 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.280 ask me to trade back, I'm interested in going to 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.520 get my guy Coleman or a JII. You know I'm 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.400 interested in that. I'm interested in that. I'm not interested 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.440 in backing up for a corner. Okay, I'm not, so 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.679 you don't. I would rather go up. I would rather 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.960 go up to get a corner than go back. That's 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.600 just me. Or wait and get a Nelson or you know, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.440 a corner later or a Josh Shaw. You feel better 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.199 about getting a corner at sixty than a running back 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.400 at sixty, I think, I mean, I don't think there's 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.440 a shot of getting a running back at sixty myself, 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.520 do you ever? And that's a problem, that's the issue. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.160 I pretty much agree with you. I do, But do 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.120 you ever think like we're so hyper focused and like 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.280 we have a pretty good idea what they're thinking that 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:06.839 I mean maybe, you know, maybe you can't see the 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.680 forest for the trees type of thing, like, I mean, yeah, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.440 you get so stuck on one line of logic and 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.720 it makes sense. I'm not saying it doesn't, but you 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.520 never know how it's gonna We could see a running 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.480 back slip to sixty. It's possible. I mean two years 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.640 two years ago, I never would have guessed Eddie Lacey 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.600 would have fallen to the sixty first pick in the 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.400 second round. That's fair in the packers would get Eddie Lacey. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:28.839 I never would have thought that would have happened. That's 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.240 a great point. I've talked to people who think a 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.520 gie is a decent bed to last. I mean, really, yeah, 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.640 it's possible. I don't. I don't see it either. But 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.800 I wonder if that's just because you kind of get 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.120 into this line that makes the draft unpredictable, because in 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.480 the second round, you know, we could see some maybe 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.880 some first round guys fall out of the first round 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.760 to the second round. You know that starts to make 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.120 up part of the second round, some guys fall a 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.000 little bit, and it might be a case where teams 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.440 are waiting for that running back run yeah, before they start. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.360 And that's the scary thing to me is gonna be 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.360 when the first when the first running back after I mean, 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.160 Girley and Gordon are beasts into themselves. But when that 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.680 first other running back goes, I think you're gonna start 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.000 to see them all. Oh no, I like dominoes. Kent 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.320 Krrison is our producer today on the show. He handles 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.920 all the calls of interaction with the fans. So kN 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:18.880 know you got one on the line. Let's go where 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.880 you're What do you got? Dale and Richmond Virginia. Dale, 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.839 We're doing great. What's your question? They're glad to see 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:29.880 you're doing great. First of all, I mostly agree what 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:34.960 you said as far as defensiveated the linebackers. But I 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:40.280 was wondering, um if Dane could go into detail about 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.880 two de fifth of tackles, one for Washington State and 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.719 another one for Northern um I or for when I 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.760 read they both can get to the quarterback. And I'm 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:54.199 Dave order your draft gud. I would expecting to get 0:11:54.240 --> 0:12:02.559 the book, but somehow I kept the online version easy 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:09.080 for me to use because I'm a number that I 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:16.480 could I'm wanting to pay the extra the book. Well, no, 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.520 and I apologize. It's uh, you know, for everyone if 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.840 you're interested in the book, it's a PDF only version. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.960 It's only on digital. But I know you know a 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.280 lot of people end up printing it out. Yeah, that 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.640 is an option. I know that's something um, you know 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.240 we've done here um and hopefully that's something you're able 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.920 to do, is take the online version. It's easily. Uh, 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.480 it's easy to print. Um. But to your question about 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.760 the defensive tackle Xavier Cooper at the Washington State A 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.240 player that a little out of position at Washington State, 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.360 but the five technique, I think he's more probably a 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.000 three technique absolutely U interesting background, Uh when you know, 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.320 kind of overlooked in the recruiting process, went to Washington 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:55.440 State and really, uh you see a talented player, uh 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.200 and very quick, very athletic, and he showed that the 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:01.120 testing numbers backed that up absolutely sure. Did. I think 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.440 he was more of a flash player on tape, and 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.240 I think if you can hone that and get more 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:09.199 of a snap the snap reliable player you got something there. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.640 So I think Cooper uh is in that top one 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.360 hundred somewhere. And then who oh, Xavier Williams out of 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:19.160 Northern Iowa, a player that I saw at the East 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.439 West Shrine game. He got a chance to see him live. Um, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:27.200 he played more of a tilted nose at you and I, 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.319 but I think he's more of a three technique or 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.520 a five technique at the NFL level. Another guy who's quick, 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.559 and I love the motor, I love, I love the 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.040 relentlessness is that he gives. He uh, he was a 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.880 combined snub. He's gonna be one of the first combine 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.600 snubs drafted this year, probably somewhere in those those middle rounds, fourth, fifth, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.719 sixth rounds somewhere. But a good player who he's not 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.240 gonna be a starter from day one, but I think 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.360 he'll push the starters and be someone that you can 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.760 get on the third day who can contribute. Yeah, and 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.439 you know, I uh, I'm with you about the book. 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.640 To me, it was, you know, put it together, you 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.120 know as you can, it works out well, get it 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.560 printed out and stuff like that. But uh, you know, 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.240 I think one day you'll have that thing printed You'll 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.960 be Hey, if I if I could, Uh, it's cost 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.640 so much to print these things, so if I could 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.920 do that, I would, but uh, you know a lot 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:15.280 of people end up printing it, and I think it 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:17.680 works out. Well, absolutely, I do that. Yeah, And and 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.239 people will print it and bind it for you. Yeah 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.720 that's me. But yeah, yeah, you talk about real quick though. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:25.720 You know, we got to a few minutes before we 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.360 got to go for a first break, talk about your 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.560 your thirty two I believe, and I tweeted it out 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.840 last night, your your combined snub. Yeah, and just maybe 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.680 highlight uh you know three or four guys out of 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.800 that group that you think that can And that's up 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.880 on CBS Sports too, by the way, isn't it. Yeah, 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.720 it's on CBS Sports. It's you know, last year we 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.720 had thirty two non combine guys drafted, and that's about 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.160 the average every year. It's about thirty guys every years, 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.000 so high number in my opinion. Yeah, Well, it's it's 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.520 tough because two fifty two. Yeah. Well, and you figure 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.320 there's about a three hundred and thirty invited that combine 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.280 every year, So there's over one hundred combine invites that 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.560 don't get drafted right, Um, but you know, through one 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.000 reason or another, some of these guys go overlooked. And 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.360 I think, um, you know absolutely Xavier Williams from Defensive 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.280 Tack Club of Northern I was one of them. It's 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.680 me the biggest combines stuff with Shack Mason. Yeah, the 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.240 interior alignment from Georgia. Shack, you gotta played center, right. 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.040 I think he's best at center, but he can play 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.480 guard as well. Um, and I think he was at 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.120 Senior Bowl and he did well for himself. Do you 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.640 think that people overlook him because of the offense that 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.760 he plays in. I mean it's that option option. It's 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.800 an offense that doesn't translate to the NFL at all. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.880 So yeah, I mean and the way they block that 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.080 is completely foreign. So yeah, I can see that position 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.400 he was on the ground, Yeah, you know, eighty percent 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:44.880 of the town because that's what he was asked to do. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.640 Cut block cup, yeah, you know, just launch himself basically. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.600 But when you look at the athleticism, it's really impressive. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.720 I think Shack Mason definitely, Um, he's a player that's 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.840 going to be drafted, only drafted, but you know, maybe 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.720 you know towards the early parts of the day. And 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.640 there's there's guys at every position you look at, Um, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.440 a wide receiver, there are quite a few quarterback Chris 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.520 Bonner from Colorado State Pueblo. That that's the kind of 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.920 the guy pegged to get drafted who wasn't at the Combine. Um, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.000 you know, a big kid, he's so raw, but you 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.880 see a lot of ability, a lot of base traits 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.200 that you want at the quarterback position. So I think 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.960 that's a possibility as well. So will we have thirty 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.560 two guys Combine snubs drafted this year? We'll see it 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.480 could be lower, could be higher. We'll have to see 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.120 how it plays out. But I think those are thirty 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.240 two guys that I think are possibilities. Did you take 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.880 a peek at Gabe Martin at all from Bowling Green? 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.360 I did, and he did make that list. Um, there 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.960 are a few MAC linebackers. Sylvestry, the Toledo guy, and 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.680 then Gabe Martin at Plowling Green. He love you love 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.960 the energy that he shows. He's athletic, he runs all 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.480 over the field. Um, you know, he can get blocked 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.880 pretty easily and taken out of the play. But when 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.120 he's able to have free space to operate. He he 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.120 has the range that you want. So I think he's 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.240 a guy that you look for maybe on special teams, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.880 and you know he can be an impact guy there 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.160 while he you know, fights for a job and the linebacker. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:05.720 Keep an eye on him. And Dane gave you some 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.560 He painted a really nice picture of the player Mansion. Yeah, 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:13.159 and and Gabe Martin from Bowling Green and um, and 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.960 I've done the player myself and I totally agree with 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.439 what Dane has said about the player. But keep an 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.399 eye on him. Against Wisconsin, I watched him play some 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.280 Sam linebacker And this is you know when you talk 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:28.080 about the Cowboys uh and them looking for a potential 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:32.359 Sam linebacker. Uh. He was also one of their thirty 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:36.320 visits as well. So that's a little bit insight right there. 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.720 For Dane's got you a guy right there on his list. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.440 You should go check that list out. But also keep 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:46.399 an eye on Gabe Martin, linebacker from Bowling Green. The 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:51.119 games I watched were Ohio, Western, Kentucky and Wisconsin. I 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.280 was thinking I have him later in the draft more 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.600 probably six type A rounds. Right. I gave him a 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.040 priority free agent grade, but it wouldn't be shocking to 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.879 see him come off the board. Remember I watched I 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.240 watched him with you for Yeah, I think Melvin Gordon 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.080 all over there. Yeah yeah, Dallas with two picks in 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.359 the seventh, you know, and I don't. You could be 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.720 absolutely right about the player. I thought more about that 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.720 two thirty six or two forty three where they're picking. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.399 Keep an eye on Gabe Martin again played a little 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:22.560 Sam linebacker against Wisconsin six two two thirty four four 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.200 six one speed is what I had. So, Okay, we're 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.440 gonna take our first break and then come back. Dave 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.800 Hellman's gonna take over the program with little Twitter on 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:34.360 the twenty. So stay tuned from the SWBC Mortgage studios 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.520 while the AT and T distributed in tennis system is 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.320 up and running for the start of this renaissance fair 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.600 they could have used the nation's most reliable four g 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.679 LTE network. 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