Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place
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Speaker 1: week thirteen in the NFL. It's time to look ahead
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Speaker 1: today we're gonna break down the games. We've got a
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Speaker 1: You guys are full of packer wins and turkey and
Speaker 1: assorted other side dishes. But it's time to get back
Speaker 1: to work, and we've got to start here with Thursday
Speaker 1: Night football. The Dallas Cowboys coming off a huge performance
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott sends them to eight and three with four touchdowns.
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks are six and five after a tough
Speaker 1: loss to the forty nine ers. They go on the
Speaker 1: road to Dallas, where Dallas has been so good at home. Pat,
Speaker 1: this one is eight and a half right now in
Speaker 1: the consensus line of betting pros, forty six and a
Speaker 1: half is the total and the Seattle upset on the
Speaker 1: money line at plus three fifteen. So Pat, does Dallas
Speaker 1: continue to roll or is this the perfect short week
Speaker 1: trap game? As they're looking ahead to their rematch with
Speaker 1: the Eagles next week.
Speaker 2: It does feel a little like a short week trap game, Joe.
Speaker 2: And you know it was interesting this game open at
Speaker 2: seven and a half on Sunday night and it's already
Speaker 2: moved a point toward the Cowboys. I guess people doubt
Speaker 2: that Seattle can go toe to toe with the top
Speaker 2: level opponent after the way they play it on Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: Night against the forty nine ers. But man, I like
Speaker 2: this as a bounce back spot for Seattle. Like, I
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna lay eggs two weeks in a row.
Speaker 2: You mentioned it, Dallas. Maybe this is a bit of
Speaker 2: a look ahead game for them, And I just like,
Speaker 2: I like getting this many points with Seattle. And I'm
Speaker 2: even a little a little interested in the money line.
Speaker 3: Joe.
Speaker 2: It was plus three thirty m DraftKings right before this show,
Speaker 2: so I might just do a little something on the
Speaker 2: money line, but a nice one or two unit bet
Speaker 2: on Seattle.
Speaker 1: I think you are braver than I am. I'm not
Speaker 1: there on the money line, but I am there with
Speaker 1: Seattle in the points. Sam, I'm curious to see where
Speaker 1: you land because this number has moved overnight an extra
Speaker 1: point there, as Pat was telling us, and to me,
Speaker 1: as somebody who's been backing down, especially Dallas at home,
Speaker 1: it feels a little weird to be a little gun
Speaker 1: shy on them. But I feel like Seattle's the right
Speaker 1: side of this game to be on. I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys win. I think Seattle might keep this one a
Speaker 1: little closer. But what do you think is Seattle really
Speaker 1: just overmatched yar by Dallas?
Speaker 3: I think they are. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 3: the way that Seattle's offense has performed the last four weeks,
Speaker 3: their success rate EPA, per drive, passing EPAER P play,
Speaker 3: all these advanced stats are just in the bottom eight
Speaker 3: of the league. And Dallas continues to be just a powerhouse.
Speaker 3: I think they have what six twenty plus point victories
Speaker 3: this year, like they are beating up on the inferior
Speaker 3: opponents that they play. And while I wouldn't consider Seattle
Speaker 3: in the class of teams like Washington, they just haven't
Speaker 3: looked like a competitive team the last several weeks. I mean,
Speaker 3: they eked out a win against the excuse me, the
Speaker 3: Browns a couple of weeks ago, and Dallas has I
Speaker 3: think an opportunity if they get out to an early
Speaker 3: lead to just put them away. They are second in
Speaker 3: the league in pressure rate over the past four weeks,
Speaker 3: first overall on the season. They've been blitzing a ton
Speaker 3: as well, and Gino's been okay against the blitz. But
Speaker 3: I just think there's too much firepower on the Cowboys
Speaker 3: side of things. Dak is playing at an MVP level
Speaker 3: right now, so I struggle to take Dallas with that
Speaker 3: many points. I mean again, I think if I were
Speaker 3: to approach this game, I'd rather stretch that out even
Speaker 3: more to maybe twelve thirteen points on an alternate line,
Speaker 3: just because of the way they have been playing. Like
Speaker 3: I said, but I probably don't have a current lean
Speaker 3: on this game right now.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the next one here on
Speaker 1: the list. Let's go to the Sunday games. Kicking things
Speaker 1: off here with the Indianapolis game against Tennessee Titans. They're
Speaker 1: going to travel to Tennessee. They are two point favorites
Speaker 1: on the in Tennessee. Are the Colts forty two and
Speaker 1: a half is the number plus one ten if you
Speaker 1: like the Titans on the money line, Sam, this one
Speaker 1: to me feels about right. If anything, I'm looking towards
Speaker 1: the under potentially in this game. I just still even
Speaker 1: though you know Will Evis will be at home and
Speaker 1: Derek Henry had a good game, it still feels to
Speaker 1: me like that offense has its issues, and I think
Speaker 1: we can agree on that. The question is can the
Speaker 1: Colts defense continue to suppress the opposing offenses of teams
Speaker 1: like the Tennessee Titans. I'm leaving the under that's the
Speaker 1: most attractive thing to me here, But anything really PopEd
Speaker 1: to you in this one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the under is one thing that did pop out
Speaker 3: to me. Tennessee is by far one of the slowest
Speaker 3: paced teams in the league. They tend to run the
Speaker 3: ball a ton, especially with Derrick Henry, which keeps the
Speaker 3: clock moving as they're going. I typically do love Colts
Speaker 3: and overs because they are one of the fastest paced teams.
Speaker 3: But I think in this matchup, when Gardner Minshew, he's
Speaker 3: played well, but I think still has a wide range
Speaker 3: of outcome, has a chance to, you know, keep this
Speaker 3: game close and keep it towards the under. I want
Speaker 3: to I want to bet on the Colts. I think
Speaker 3: I'd rather play them on the money line than with
Speaker 3: the put in a half or two points, But I
Speaker 3: think the under is the right play for right now.
Speaker 1: Pat, do you agree here that the under might be
Speaker 1: the most appealing early value here on this game.
Speaker 2: I'm not really interested in it, Joe, Like I agree that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Maybe it's the slightly percentage better percentage
Speaker 2: play than the over, but I don't really like the
Speaker 2: total in this one. Part of it is that Gardner
Speaker 2: Minshew has faced this murder's row of pass defenses in
Speaker 2: his seven starts this year, like Ravens, Browns, Jaguars. I
Speaker 2: think he's faced four top ten teams in pass defense DVA,
Speaker 2: and every team he's faced in his seven starts has
Speaker 2: been top twenty one, So like, this is the first
Speaker 2: time he's facing a team that's ranked like near the
Speaker 2: bottom of the league in pass defense. The Titans are
Speaker 2: twenty eighth.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: Maybe he does a little bit more business than he's
Speaker 2: been doing recently. And yeah, boy, I don't really like
Speaker 2: either side of the total here, Joe, and I don't
Speaker 2: like either side, Like I just I can't go against.
Speaker 1: Mike stay stay away Pas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't go against rabel as a you know,
Speaker 2: like a home dog against a respectable but not like
Speaker 2: truly good team. Like I just you know, it's a
Speaker 2: good thing. I've given up betting Colts games, Joe, because
Speaker 2: I don't want to touch this one.
Speaker 1: That's a good it's a good practice. I think, go ahead, sev.
Speaker 3: Pat, you mentioned Vrabel at home. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: Shane Steiken should easily be in the Coach of the
Speaker 3: Year conversation right now. I mean with what he's done
Speaker 3: with the Colts. I mean, if the season ends today,
Speaker 3: the Colts are in the playoffs as a wildcard team
Speaker 3: after their number one quarterback went down, the their fourth
Speaker 3: overall pick in the draft, and probably possibly one of
Speaker 3: the worst rosters in the league heading into this season.
Speaker 3: I think at this point Stiken probably has the coaching
Speaker 3: advantage over Mike Rabel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. Sam is echoing everything I just talked
Speaker 1: about with Pat on the Fantasy Pro Show this morning too,
Speaker 1: which is how much I'm gonna love the Colts next
Speaker 1: year because I love Stich and I love Anthony Richardson,
Speaker 1: I love the jt is in the fold like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be very in on the Colts in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: but this week, in Week thirteen, if that money line
Speaker 1: was a little bigger. If you were giving me like
Speaker 1: plus two to ten on the Titans, then I'm listening.
Speaker 1: But right now the plus one ten, I'm just looking
Speaker 1: the under Let's look to the Los Angeles Chargers, who
Speaker 1: are chasing their tail to the New England Patriots they go,
Speaker 1: who are chasing the number one overall pick in this
Speaker 1: year's upcoming NFL Draft. New England is six point home
Speaker 1: underdogs in this one. Maybe that's too much. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Forty and a half is the number plus two to
Speaker 1: ten on the New England Patriots money line. Oh, pat
Speaker 1: This is a tricky one here. Confidence in the Chargers
Speaker 1: is hard to come by, especially where I stand. I
Speaker 1: was right, though, however, about the Baltimore Ravens not being
Speaker 1: favored by enough in that game on Sunday Night, despite
Speaker 1: the fact it was a thrilling contest by any stretch
Speaker 1: of the means. But this is a tough one here,
Speaker 1: because the Patriots offense is having all sorts of problems.
Speaker 1: They can't move the football, the Chargers coming up with
Speaker 1: a very low total in their game this past Sunday night,
Speaker 1: So what do you make of this? From an early
Speaker 1: Lion standpoint, is there any value at all?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Joe. I'm pretty repulsed, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you. And the first thing that struck me is,
Speaker 2: just like, the Chargers is a six point road favorite.
Speaker 1: Really again, what world are we living in now?
Speaker 2: Traveling cross country for an early start? So I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm leaning Patriots here, as grotesque as that feels, Joe like.
Speaker 2: And we've seen the Patriots legs at home, although they
Speaker 2: did manage to knock off Buffalo at home, so uh,
Speaker 2: man Like, as little confidence as I have in this
Speaker 2: Patriots offense, I think I'm gonna take them in the
Speaker 2: points this week because I just I can't wrap my
Speaker 2: head around this starcrossed Charger team being favored by almost
Speaker 2: a touchdown on the road. It just my head cannot
Speaker 2: get around this.
Speaker 1: I understand, Sam, I don't know if you want to
Speaker 1: echo the sentiments of pat here, but this is really
Speaker 1: tough because you have this weird rotation at quarterback here.
Speaker 1: It feels like everything in New English is imploding on
Speaker 1: itself and the Chargers are right there with them, So
Speaker 1: that becomes very difficult to kind of figure out a
Speaker 1: side to take in this game. But do you have one,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I made this game New England
Speaker 3: plus four when I was first looking at it, So
Speaker 3: getting six points theoretically should mean I should be taking
Speaker 3: the Patriots here, But it's so tough. I mean, the
Speaker 3: quarterback play is so abysmal for the Patriots, whether it's
Speaker 3: Mac Jones or Bailey ZAPPI. I do think that this
Speaker 3: could present a potential live betting opportunity with the Chargers,
Speaker 3: depending on how they come out of the gate. The
Speaker 3: Patriots rush defense has been exceptional all year. They have
Speaker 3: the number one ranked rush defense in terms of EPA
Speaker 3: per play and success rate. So if the Chargers do
Speaker 3: come out passing the ball, then I'd be more inclined
Speaker 3: to start adding some Chargers lines to my portfolio, but
Speaker 3: without knowing what they're going to do, because again, they
Speaker 3: still have Austin Eckler, who theoretically is a good running back.
Speaker 3: But I think it's better for fantasy than as an
Speaker 3: actual running back at this point. But I'm not touching
Speaker 3: this right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the live one is an interesting wager there, and
Speaker 1: look process tells you. I agree, the Patriots probably the
Speaker 1: side to be on, but it feels really hard to
Speaker 1: be confident about that after what we've seen the last
Speaker 1: few weeks from them. The Detroit Lions coming off a
Speaker 1: tough Thanksgiving Day loss eight and three. They are now
Speaker 1: going against the five and six New Orleans Saints. This
Speaker 1: one's in New Orleans. Detroit is still three and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites in this one at minus one to wait,
Speaker 1: that's the consensus lineup betting pros. Forty five and a
Speaker 1: half is the total, and you've got plus one sixty
Speaker 1: on New warwins to win. Now, that Latimore injury was
Speaker 1: a bad one, obviously, the missed himless last week. Also
Speaker 1: a Lave getting hurt, Shaheed getting hurt, Sam A lot
Speaker 1: of injuries here for the Saints. I would jump on
Speaker 1: this Detroit line now at three and a half because
Speaker 1: I feel like over the week this one's gonna grow.
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite early ones. And you
Speaker 1: are nod in your head, so it feels like Sammy
Speaker 1: ballgame is with me. Let's preach, let's go.
Speaker 3: Yes. I mean you listed all of the injuries. Michael
Speaker 3: Thomas was put on IR before this game. Chris A
Speaker 3: Lave left with the concussion rashoot Chahe left the game
Speaker 3: with a thigh injury, like they're they're down to Lynn
Speaker 3: Bowden and At Perry as their top receiving options. Now,
Speaker 3: I think Chris o'lave probably has a decent chance to
Speaker 3: play in this game. But Cam Jordan also left with
Speaker 3: a shin injury in the game. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: know what you've seen from the Saints that makes you
Speaker 3: think they're they're gonna be able to keep it close
Speaker 3: in this point. I think you're buying Detroit at a
Speaker 3: sort of a low point, and after an embarrassing loss
Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving. They excuse me, went for it on fourth
Speaker 3: down a bunch of times in that game, obviously, and
Speaker 3: it didn't go their way. But if some of those do,
Speaker 3: then there's a chance that they come away with that victory.
Speaker 3: I think the Lions too, have a massive, massive coaching advantage.
Speaker 3: I think Dan Campbell is much better than Dennis Allen.
Speaker 3: So I couldn't have gotten on this Detroit Lions line
Speaker 3: quicker this morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, Sam Pat. This also feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think the secret sauce there too was
Speaker 1: the pass rush that the Packers got on Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: He was just looking for his life running around all
Speaker 1: day long there trying to avoid that. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: necessarily that New Orleans is capable putting that kind of
Speaker 1: pressure on them. And I know it's a road game,
Speaker 1: and I know we should be, you know, maybe theoretically
Speaker 1: a little bit more respectful of New Orleans. But with
Speaker 1: all the injuries, with all the circumstances, and plus coming
Speaker 1: off that bad, embarrassing loss, was some extra time to prepare.
Speaker 1: I'm with Sam, I am all in here early because
Speaker 1: I think this three and a half easily gets to
Speaker 1: four and a half or maybe even five and a
Speaker 1: half by the time we get to Sunday.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, guys, I've already bet the Lions, not
Speaker 2: only all the injuries that you mentioned, Joe, you said
Speaker 2: it the extra prep time and the fact that the
Speaker 2: Lions obviously have a bad taste in their mouth, like
Speaker 2: losing to the Packers at home in a game that
Speaker 2: everyone in America's was watching basically, so they're motivated. And
Speaker 2: can I interest you guys in the under in this game,
Speaker 2: Like the total move from forty four and a half
Speaker 2: to forty five and a half, it's gone up a
Speaker 2: point and I kind of like the under because the
Speaker 2: Saints don't have much of a running game at all,
Speaker 2: and while we have seen teams carve up the Lions
Speaker 2: through the air lately, including the Packers. I might add
Speaker 2: Derek Carr has been having all sorts of trouble getting
Speaker 2: the ball into the end zone, like he is just
Speaker 2: not able to seal the deal once the Saints get
Speaker 2: inside the red zone or even inside the thirty to
Speaker 2: be honest. So plus like, yeah, maybe Dennis Allen is
Speaker 2: the inferior head coach here, but I do have a
Speaker 2: lot of faith in Dennis Allen defensively getting it done.
Speaker 2: The Saints are still a pretty good defensive team even
Speaker 2: without Marshawn Latimar, so I don't think the Lions are
Speaker 2: gonna go crazy offensively. So I sort of like the
Speaker 2: Lions and the under in this one.
Speaker 1: By the way, since we started the show, this number
Speaker 1: has already moved on FanDuel at least it's up to
Speaker 1: four and a half. So there you have it. Everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody seems to agree, So get in as soon as
Speaker 1: you can on this one before it gets out of control.
Speaker 1: Next one here, the unlikely seven to four Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: will be at home. They are five and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites against the Arizona Cardinals. Right now, the number
Speaker 1: for this game and consensus is forty, which feels about
Speaker 1: right to me. Plus two hundred for Arizona and the upset.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals really struggled yesterday against the Rams pat I
Speaker 1: imagine they will struggle on the road here against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I know with Matt Canada gone, there's a new excitement
Speaker 1: here with the offense of the Pittsburgh Steelers, the first
Speaker 1: four hundred yards of offense they've had in four seasons.
Speaker 1: But still looking at the Pittsburgh Steelers is five and
Speaker 1: a half too much.
Speaker 2: It might be Joe. Every time I feel confidence in
Speaker 2: the Steelers, I met them and they burn me severely.
Speaker 2: So I'm not really interested in either side here. I'm
Speaker 2: kind of interested in the over though. Like the Steelers
Speaker 2: average six point two yards per play in their first
Speaker 2: game without Matt Canada as the play caller. They look
Speaker 2: pretty good on offense, like didn't score as many points
Speaker 2: as they should have given that they were over four
Speaker 2: hundred yards of offense. And like this Arizona offense is
Speaker 2: spunky two with Kyler Murray, so I think We're going
Speaker 2: to see more than thirty nine and a half or
Speaker 2: forty points in this one. But I don't really like
Speaker 2: either side.
Speaker 1: Sam. I'm confident in the Steelers victory, but I'm just
Speaker 1: not confident in the five and a half. Can you
Speaker 1: get me there?
Speaker 3: No, I can't. I took the Cardinals with those with
Speaker 3: the points this morning. I mean, I think it's the
Speaker 3: better quarterback getting the points. Can he Pickett? His hist
Speaker 3: not played well this year, despite him having probably his
Speaker 3: best game this past week against the Bengals, But the
Speaker 3: fact that they came away with a single digit win
Speaker 3: against a team starting kind of can't remember the Bengals
Speaker 3: quarterback name, but it's Browning, Yeah, Browning. Like I think
Speaker 3: with this lower total too, there's a chance that the
Speaker 3: Cardinals keep it close. They have been pretty successful rushing
Speaker 3: the ball with Kyler Murray and James Connor back as well.
Speaker 3: So give me Arizona with the points here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that forty I don't care for. But the Arizona
Speaker 1: side is where I'm leading to. This next one's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite early ones. I want to jump on
Speaker 1: this one. The Atlanta Falcons traveled to New York. They
Speaker 1: are two and a half point favorites. There thirty four
Speaker 1: is the number for this game. If you like the
Speaker 1: Jets for the upset, it's plus one twenty on the
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Speaker 1: lines all move, because that is crucial. It's not just
Speaker 1: what games to bet, it's when to bet them. And
Speaker 1: it feels like Sam after finally weeks and weeks months
Speaker 1: of torture of waiting for Bijon Robinson to just touch
Speaker 1: the football as much as humanly possible, we're starting to
Speaker 1: get more of that. That confidence in Bijon is why
Speaker 1: I am confident in the Falcons. I think the Falcons
Speaker 1: defense is pretty good. I think the Jets' quarterback play
Speaker 1: is absolutely atrocious. There's no way out of it. It's
Speaker 1: a downward spiral to hell for the New York Jets
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. I'm in on the Falcons on the road.
Speaker 1: Not something I say very often, but where are you
Speaker 1: for this game?
Speaker 3: Joe, you might have been the first person to use
Speaker 3: the word confident and Falcons in the same sentence.
Speaker 1: This end road. Don't forget the road part.
Speaker 3: I mean, as far as I can tell, like, they
Speaker 3: could throw this game on Friday afternoon again and just
Speaker 3: sort of skip acid. But the Jets defense is undoubtedly
Speaker 3: the best unit in this game. I think, god thirty
Speaker 3: four and a half point total is just it's so low.
Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter has struggled. I mean, between him and Derek
Speaker 3: Carr on Sunday, they were just having a battle to
Speaker 3: see who could play worse in the red zone. So
Speaker 3: I kind of like the Jets here. I mean, I
Speaker 3: think I'd prefer to tease them out to eight and
Speaker 3: a half points, especially again with such a low total.
Speaker 3: I think Tim Boyle, who I believe they already announced
Speaker 3: would be the starter for this game, will have slightly
Speaker 3: better success being able to move the ball against the
Speaker 3: Falcons than the Miami Dolphins. The Jets do have a
Speaker 3: slight rest advantage here, so if I'm gon to my
Speaker 3: head choosing a side, it's teasing the Jets out with
Speaker 3: something else.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Falcons smell winning this division now
Speaker 1: after that win against the Saints. I think they recognize
Speaker 1: that this is a tough matchup against the Jets here.
Speaker 1: But the Jets offense, I think, is just going to
Speaker 1: make mistakes that are going to hand this game over
Speaker 1: to the Falcons, whether it be interceptions, fumbles, short fields.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to present the Falcons with a
Speaker 1: w and as long as they keep the ball in
Speaker 1: Jon Robinson's hands more than Desmond Ritters, I think they
Speaker 1: should come out with a victory.
Speaker 2: But Pat, what do you think could be Joe did
Speaker 2: you did you say you were excited about this game?
Speaker 1: Because I'm excited to bet this game. Not to watch
Speaker 1: this game, I'm not going to watch it if I
Speaker 1: can avoid it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I watch this, it's gonna because my eyes
Speaker 2: are pride open, clockwork orange style and I'm being forced to.
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather watch one of those electric football
Speaker 2: games where you turn it on to the board vibrators
Speaker 2: or flyers goals, more entertaining football than this game is
Speaker 2: going to.
Speaker 1: Actually, what the Jets offense looks like people is debrating
Speaker 1: randomly on the field and no direction whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I wish I could have your level
Speaker 2: of confidence in Arthur Smith's offense against the Jets defense,
Speaker 2: and I'm kind of kick I'm not gonna bet either side.
Speaker 2: I just don't like either side of this. I wish
Speaker 2: I had taken the under when it was thirty five
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night on DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Now it's thirty four on DraftKings.
Speaker 2: I might still have to just grab it at thirty
Speaker 2: four and a half on FanDuel, because yeah, this game
Speaker 2: is going to be I can't see this game getting
Speaker 2: to thirty points, like, I just can't.
Speaker 1: The postgame press conferences locally after the game here, I
Speaker 1: watched a bunch of them because I live in the
Speaker 1: New York area. This feels like a team that has done.
Speaker 1: They are They sound done. They are sound that they're
Speaker 1: over it. The Jets sound like, you know, I got
Speaker 1: no answers. They've got no answers. They're four and seven,
Speaker 1: and I think the Falcons are like, hey, we are
Speaker 1: in this thing, let's go. And I think it goes
Speaker 1: back to some of those teams like who needs the
Speaker 1: game more. I think the Falcons need it. They smell it.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna come out with a w you know,
Speaker 1: minus one forty five is a little too much juice here,
Speaker 1: So I'll take the two and a half at minus
Speaker 1: one fourteen because I think they can win by a
Speaker 1: field goal. Miami try to Washington. Washington always gets up
Speaker 1: pat for the bigger opponents, so I mean they didn't
Speaker 1: get up for Thanksgiving, but you know that's that's a
Speaker 1: different story. They will be at home against the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are nine and a half point favorites. Fifty
Speaker 1: is the number for this game, plus three fifty on
Speaker 1: the money line for Washington pat. Do you see any
Speaker 1: early value in this one?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man, I don't chow.
Speaker 2: I mean, nine and a half seems like a lot
Speaker 2: of points to give a home team with a spunky
Speaker 2: passing game. But man, the Dolphins could just pour on
Speaker 2: the points on this Washington pass defense. Like Tyreek Hill
Speaker 2: and Jalen Willer are just gonna go berzerk in this game.
Speaker 2: So if anything, I might bet the over here. Nine
Speaker 2: and a half points is just too much for me.
Speaker 2: But I can't bet Washington either.
Speaker 1: That's the hard part. I'm going to rock in a
Speaker 1: hard place with this game, too. Sam. Maybe you've got
Speaker 1: some stats from the laboratory to help give us some clarity.
Speaker 1: Because I think Pat and I need some here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I'm probably betting to underhear. The Miami
Speaker 3: Dolphins are struggling with some injuries. They lost Jalen Phillips,
Speaker 3: which is just a huge, huge loss. Javon Hollins got
Speaker 3: hurt in the game. Toront Armstead is week to week,
Speaker 3: so nothing to like the offensive playmakers, which obviously drives
Speaker 3: this team, but just a couple a number of key
Speaker 3: players who could and likely will miss this game. Now,
Speaker 3: the reason I like the under is because these are
Speaker 3: two of the again slowest paced teams in the league.
Speaker 3: They both rank in the bottom eight ins neutral script
Speaker 3: seconds per play. They both use no huddle at the
Speaker 3: bottom five rate in the league. So it as good
Speaker 3: as these offenses have shown they can be. I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously the Dolphins have one of the best explosive play
Speaker 3: rates in the league this year. I just think they
Speaker 3: both sort of play it super slow. I think, you know,
Speaker 3: we get something like the Dolphins potentially playing against the Jets,
Speaker 3: where they just have some of these longer drives that
Speaker 3: take five to six seven minutes and are able to
Speaker 3: salt away a lead and with a fifteen and a
Speaker 3: half point total you need a lot to go right.
Speaker 3: You can't have, you know, any of these red zone
Speaker 3: turnovers things like that. So I'd bet the under here,
Speaker 3: and that's that's how I'd play it right.
Speaker 1: Now, all right, last of the one o'clock games. The
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos keep grinding out victories the last few weeks.
Speaker 1: They are now six and five. Quite a turnaround for
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, quite turn around for this defense. They are
Speaker 1: three point underdogs as they travel to Houston coming off
Speaker 1: a tough loss to the Jaguars. You know, Houston showed
Speaker 1: some of their inexperience. I think in that game. It's
Speaker 1: a moments some of the play calling suspect, especially that
Speaker 1: fourth and one late in the game, you know, trying
Speaker 1: to throw the ball fifteen yards downfield a Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: when all they needed was one. I just I did
Speaker 1: not care for that. I thought that was a bad
Speaker 1: play call and it did come back to haunt them
Speaker 1: later in that game by that missfield goal. Forty six
Speaker 1: and a half is the number for this one plus
Speaker 1: one four for Denver on the money line, Sam, this
Speaker 1: is an interesting one here because I think all of
Speaker 1: us immediately will go to Houston you know, Houston's been
Speaker 1: a very solid team. Stroud has played great. Yes it
Speaker 1: was a disappointing week, they bounce back. But the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos have been very formidable. They have been, like I said,
Speaker 1: grinding out victories. Can they grind out another one here
Speaker 1: at plus one forty?
Speaker 3: I think they've got a chance to so. They obviously
Speaker 3: allowed the seventy points to the Dolphins all the way
Speaker 3: back and I think it was week three or four.
Speaker 3: In the Broncos five game winning streak that they have
Speaker 3: going on, they've allowed just eighty total points on defense,
Speaker 3: and that's an average about sixteen per game. Now. I
Speaker 3: think again, this is similar to the Chargers line I
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier of how does the how do the Broncos
Speaker 3: play this game? Early on? Because they have the sixth
Speaker 3: lowest pass right over expectation this year. If they run
Speaker 3: the ball against this Texans defense, which is fifth and
Speaker 3: epa per play a rush allowed fifth or excuse me
Speaker 3: fourth in rushing success rate allowed, then I think the
Speaker 3: Texans are going to have a great chance to win.
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson has made some good throws. I mean, doesn't
Speaker 3: look like he's playing nearly as bad as he was
Speaker 3: last year, but I think CJ. Stroud will be able
Speaker 3: to take advantage of this Broncos defense as well. They
Speaker 3: are excuse me, the Broncos are blitzing a ton, but
Speaker 3: c J. Stroud has a seventy eight and a half
Speaker 3: PFF grade against the blitz this year, which is eighth
Speaker 3: highst in the league. I think they'll They'll probably get
Speaker 3: Noel Brown back in this game. I just continue to
Speaker 3: buy into the the Houston Texans and c J. Stroud
Speaker 3: there the call of this my fandom or just loving
Speaker 3: what they're doing this year. I agree that that third
Speaker 3: and third and one and then fourth and one play
Speaker 3: call was that was very suspect, just knowing what they
Speaker 3: sort of needed. But overall, I think this team in
Speaker 3: general is just much much better than the Broncos, and
Speaker 3: it's going to play out this way.
Speaker 1: All right, Pat, how do you think this one plays out?
Speaker 1: To me? I keep going to the individuals. I've been
Speaker 1: betting the over on the cch strout passing yards every
Speaker 1: week pretty much, and it's worked three of the last
Speaker 1: four times for me. The Tankdale anytime touchdown score. I'm
Speaker 1: looking more of the individuals for this game because I
Speaker 1: think this one is really tough to gauge, but this
Speaker 1: is a game I do want to watch in the
Speaker 1: one o'clock hour. So how about you? What do you
Speaker 1: think about this contest between the Houston Texans and the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2: I actually love the Broncos here, Joe and I can
Speaker 2: understand that, like if Houston is a fun team, I
Speaker 2: get why Sam loves them. I love them too, like
Speaker 2: they have been like the surprise enjoyable team to watch
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three season. But they are over valued
Speaker 2: in the betting markets now and have been for weeks.
Speaker 2: And that's why I smashed the Jaguars last week, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to smash the Broncos this week. And this
Speaker 2: opened at Houston minus three, and it's all already moved
Speaker 2: towards the Texans at minus three and a half. The
Speaker 2: Broncos have won five straight, as Sam mentioned earlier, and
Speaker 2: it's not like that has been a cupcake, but they
Speaker 2: they beat the Bills and Chiefs as part of that
Speaker 2: win streak, and like their defense is tightened up considerably,
Speaker 2: they can still be had a little bit on the run,
Speaker 2: but they've gotten much tougher against the pass, so I
Speaker 2: think they might actually match up pretty well. You know,
Speaker 2: Sam mentioned like blitzing C. J. Stroud is a little dangerous,
Speaker 2: But I do think they can slow down this Texans
Speaker 2: pass offense. I think the Broncos getting three and a
Speaker 2: half are a nice bet.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the next one here at
Speaker 1: four o'clock game Tampa Bay at four to seven will
Speaker 1: host the Carolina Panthers one to ten with a new
Speaker 1: head coach. Because Frank Reich is out, Tampa is six
Speaker 1: point favorites in this game. Thirty seven and a half
Speaker 1: is the number and plus two fifteen on the Panthers'
Speaker 1: money line. Now, oftentimes beat when the head coach gets fired,
Speaker 1: I run right to bet the money line on that team.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that this week. I think. You know,
Speaker 1: Tampa has had some ups and downs in these last
Speaker 1: few weeks. They've been respectable. They've been competitive. They're good upfront,
Speaker 1: which is the one thing I keep coming back to,
Speaker 1: which is where obviously the deficit of the Carolina Panthers lies.
Speaker 1: So do you think that they get any balance out
Speaker 1: of this Frank right firing? Do you think the six
Speaker 1: is too many points? What do you think about Tampa
Speaker 1: and the Panthers.
Speaker 2: I don't think we see the fired coach bounce Joe.
Speaker 2: It does not feel like Ding dong the Witch is
Speaker 2: Dead type situation like we saw with the Raiders and
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel. Like this does not have that same feel
Speaker 2: to it. I can't lay five points with the Buccaneers
Speaker 2: and you know this one open, it's set like I just.
Speaker 1: Can't do that.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to bet the Panthers either, especially
Speaker 2: when I have so much concerns about their ability to
Speaker 2: block the Buccaneers front. So I'm just staying away from
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: How about you, Sam? Do you see any early value
Speaker 1: on this one?
Speaker 3: So I actually kind of like the Panthers on the
Speaker 3: money line, and it's there's a couple of reasons for
Speaker 3: that you're leaning into this variance. We have a lot
Speaker 3: of unknowns in this game, obviously with the Panthers and
Speaker 3: the coaching side of things, sort of what they're going
Speaker 3: to end up doing without Frank Reich. But on the
Speaker 3: buccaneer side of the ball, Baker Mayfield got banged up. Now,
Speaker 3: we did just get news that the MRI on his
Speaker 3: ankle was negative for ligament damage, which is good, but
Speaker 3: there's a chance he potentially could sit out this game.
Speaker 3: And then you've got Kyle Trask, who still might be
Speaker 3: a better quarterback than Bryce Young at this point. But
Speaker 3: there It's what I think I would consider a high
Speaker 3: entropy game, a game in which there could be a
Speaker 3: lot of different ways for this to play out, and
Speaker 3: you're just sort of buying into the variants and targeting
Speaker 3: the plus money outcome to hopefully again get the benefit
Speaker 3: if there is a lot of variants. So it's not
Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with liking the Panthers or
Speaker 3: anything that they've doing. It's more so just a percentage
Speaker 3: play and hoping that you land on the right side
Speaker 3: of the variants. With the Panthers all.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, the Eagles have continued to land on the
Speaker 1: right side of the variants. Every close game they tend
Speaker 1: to come out with a victory. They're ten and one
Speaker 1: there at home. They're taking on the San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine ers in a big time NFC matchup, and man,
Speaker 1: the Eagles have been running this gauntlet. They are beating
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, They've beaten the Bills, they beat the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: They've now have the San Francisco forty nine Ers and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys again in the schedule is the toughest there is,
Speaker 1: and yet with all these victories, they are underdogs in
Speaker 1: their own building. Sam, I understand the forty nine Ers
Speaker 1: have played really well in the last few weeks. I
Speaker 1: get that. I think that the Eagles are going to
Speaker 1: take this. Personally, I like the plus one twenty on
Speaker 1: the money line for the Eagles. Forty six and a
Speaker 1: half is the number? Tell me I'm wrong, Sam, I
Speaker 1: want to hear this conversation. What do you think about
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers Eagles? Which is the marquee matchup of
Speaker 1: the day.
Speaker 3: For sure, this is gonna be a great game. I'm
Speaker 3: really looking forward to it. If you use two to
Speaker 3: one and a half points as home field advantage, this
Speaker 3: line would suggest that the forty nine Ers are about
Speaker 3: three and a half or four points better than the
Speaker 3: Eagles on a neutral field. Now Impredictable, which uses past
Speaker 3: performances and and upcoming betting lines to come up with
Speaker 3: team power ratings, actually says that that's about right. But
Speaker 3: that feels like a lot to me, So I think
Speaker 3: I would lean with the Eagles now. Lane Johnson missed
Speaker 3: the game yesterday against the Buffalo Bills. I think Philadelphia
Speaker 3: might need him to have a good chance because Nick
Speaker 3: Bosa lines up almost exclusively right across from right tackles.
Speaker 3: So I think this is a game where again I
Speaker 3: want to take the home dog in Philadelphia. But I'm
Speaker 3: waiting a little bit to get some positive news on
Speaker 3: Lane Johnson because while I don't think he truly moves
Speaker 3: the market that much from a point spread perspective, I
Speaker 3: do think it could change the outcome of the game.
Speaker 1: Pat Fletcher Cox also had that groin injury. That's a
Speaker 1: big piece if you don't have that upfront. The Eagles
Speaker 1: are just so good on both sides of the ball
Speaker 1: up front, and I think that's you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, we could talk all we want
Speaker 1: about all the evolution of the NFL, but that's still
Speaker 1: what wins football games in a lot of ways, and
Speaker 1: Hurts has been outstanding. Hurts to me is the MVP,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why he's not getting enough hype
Speaker 1: for it. Maybe he is. He's pretty high up on
Speaker 1: the board. But Pat, how do you see this one?
Speaker 1: This is the game everybody wants to see. I've been
Speaker 1: on the Eagles the last few weeks, I've been making
Speaker 1: money on the money line. I feel like the Eagles
Speaker 1: take this one personally, and I think they see that
Speaker 1: by sitting out there and they win this game, they
Speaker 1: know they've pretty much locked up that buy and I
Speaker 1: think that is a huge thing. And there's only one
Speaker 1: of those teams now in the last few years that
Speaker 1: gets that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned how the Eagles have been fighting
Speaker 2: their way through tough competition, Joe. I mean, it wasn't
Speaker 2: that long ago that the forty nine were in a
Speaker 2: three game losing streak and now they're favorite in Philly.
Speaker 2: And when I saw this open up as the forty
Speaker 2: nine Ers being one and a half point favorites on
Speaker 2: Sunday night, I kind of thought that by today that
Speaker 2: line would move a little bit more towards the Eagles. No,
Speaker 2: it actually went up to two and a half. Like,
Speaker 2: it's not moving in the direction I thought it was
Speaker 2: gonna move. I do understand that the forty nine Ers
Speaker 2: can probably throw a heavier punch than any team in
Speaker 2: the NFL right now, Like when that offense is clicking,
Speaker 2: they are just basically impossible to stop. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, like we saw the forty nine Ers defense
Speaker 2: look pretty dreadful during that losing streak, especially that game
Speaker 2: against the Vikings. If their pass rush doesn't get home.
Speaker 2: And you know, if Lane Johnson is okay, this Eagles
Speaker 2: offensive line is pretty terrific and can maybe handle that
Speaker 2: pass rush. Like AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith can definitely
Speaker 2: do business against the forty nine ers cornerback. So, yes,
Speaker 2: the forty nine can land a heavy punch, but that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean they can't get out boxed by another really
Speaker 2: good team.
Speaker 1: Look, color me skeptical too. You beat up on the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: you beat up on the Buccaneers. It beat up on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense, their secondary, Like, yeah, okay, that's great.
Speaker 1: This is the Eagles now, this is the team that
Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl. This is a team that's
Speaker 1: ten and one. I just don't think they're getting enough
Speaker 1: respect right now. I don't know what they've got to
Speaker 1: do to earn it. The pass rush is ferocious, I
Speaker 1: get it. I'm also still skeptical that Brock Party can
Speaker 1: go into a hostile building and go win you a
Speaker 1: big game. I want to see that. I have not
Speaker 1: seen that yet really happen. I mean, a real hostile building,
Speaker 1: because Philly is a hostile environment. Just ask all those
Speaker 1: Bills players. They'll pushing away fans. Let's get to the
Speaker 1: next one here on this docket, maybe a little less exciting.
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns, I don't know. Seven to four going
Speaker 1: against the five and six Los Angeles Rams. This one's
Speaker 1: in LA. The Rams are four and a half point
Speaker 1: favorites in this game. Thirty nine and a half is
Speaker 1: the number plus one eighty for Cleveland on the victory
Speaker 1: on certain here with the quarterback situation again, a DTR
Speaker 1: will wait to hear more clarity on him. Maybe we
Speaker 1: get PJ. Walker, But I don't know, Pat, does this
Speaker 1: seem odd to you? How is this Cleveland this far away?
Speaker 1: In plus four and a half? I want the Cleveland
Speaker 1: side of this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just because the Browns offense is so dreadful
Speaker 2: with the quarterback situation, Joe, Like, that's it, And that's
Speaker 2: that's why I'm not really interested in either side of
Speaker 2: this game. I'm mildly interested in the under though, because
Speaker 2: that Brown's offense is so dreadful, and because the Browns
Speaker 2: defense is still very legit. Although I kind of want
Speaker 2: to see what's up with Miles Garrett since he appeared
Speaker 2: to be injured in that game, like he you know,
Speaker 2: just didn't seem like he was fully healthy. So I
Speaker 2: want to see if he shows up on the injury report.
Speaker 2: If he does not, then you can definitely interest me
Speaker 2: in the under.
Speaker 1: Under sounds good to me too. Look, defense travels, you
Speaker 1: run the football no matter who's playing quarterback. PJ. Walker
Speaker 1: has been competitive in some of these games. I don't
Speaker 1: have too many questions here, Like, I just think four
Speaker 1: and a half has too many points and too much
Speaker 1: respect for the Rams just because they beat up on
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Sam, do you see things differently?
Speaker 3: I don't, But I still struggle to buy into the Browns.
Speaker 3: This is one I don't have much of a lenon
Speaker 3: right now. It's just that, not that there's a lot
Speaker 3: of unknowns. I just can't get a read on what
Speaker 3: these two much are. Again. Yeah, I mean, like the Rams.
Speaker 3: The Rams have been sort of all over the place
Speaker 3: this year in terms of their offensive performances. We know
Speaker 3: what the Browns are on offense and defense, which I
Speaker 3: guess is contract to my point, but it's still I'd
Speaker 3: just want to stay away.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the primetime games. Kansas City
Speaker 1: eight and three travels to Green Bay to take on
Speaker 1: the Packers. They are six and a half point favorites
Speaker 1: at minus one twelve forty. Two and a half is
Speaker 1: the number. Green Bay is plus two forty on the
Speaker 1: money line. All right, so Packers big win extra time?
Speaker 1: Does it matter? Is the six and a half safe
Speaker 1: here for the Chiefs? Sam?
Speaker 3: I think so. I I want to buy into the
Speaker 3: Packers because Jordan Love has played pretty well the last
Speaker 3: four weeks. Since Week nine, he ranks third in EPA
Speaker 3: per play, seventh in success rate, seventh in completion percentage
Speaker 3: over expectation, and seventh in PFF grade. So he is
Speaker 3: playing much much better. Like he looks a lot more
Speaker 3: comfortable in the pocket when he's getting pressured. That said,
Speaker 3: it's been two games against the Chargers and the Lions,
Speaker 3: which have some pretty bad defenses. The Chiefs still have
Speaker 3: one of the best defenses in the league. I think
Speaker 3: the Chiefs offense, despite a couple of drops again in
Speaker 3: the game against Las Vegas, found their footing a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think they'll be able to run on this Packers defense,
Speaker 3: which got gashed on the ground once again. Against Detroit,
Speaker 3: and I think again, with the Packers' zone heavy scheme,
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey will just be able to
Speaker 3: take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: A ton pat your thoughts on Green Bay case.
Speaker 2: The difference between the six and a half points this
Speaker 2: is sitting at now in the seven points it opened
Speaker 2: at is pretty monumental. I was mildly interested in the
Speaker 2: Packers at seven points, Joe, but at six and a half,
Speaker 2: I just can't do it. It's something of a revenge
Speaker 2: game for Jordan love because when he made his first
Speaker 2: NFL start two years ago, it was in Kansas City
Speaker 2: when Aaron Rodgers had COVID nineteen. It was very ugly
Speaker 2: and the Packers defense actually overachieved and threw a blanket
Speaker 2: on Patrick Mahomes that game. But Jordan Love like couldn't
Speaker 2: even pick up a first down that game, so the
Speaker 2: Packers lost a low scoring rock fight. I think we'll
Speaker 2: see more offense in this one, and I think the
Speaker 2: over is somewhat interesting, But man, I don't see value
Speaker 2: in either side.
Speaker 1: Quite honestly, I see value with the six and a
Speaker 1: half on casey give me, give me the Chiefs here
Speaker 1: to figure things out. They started off slow against the
Speaker 1: Raiders and they figured things out. I just think that's
Speaker 1: where they are. I think they're just kind of one
Speaker 1: of these teams that's just kind of floating around there.
Speaker 1: They know how good they are, and you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: they're not good enough and sometimes they don't execute enough.
Speaker 1: Now that pass rush in Green Bay, if they can
Speaker 1: bring that what they brought over a Jared Goff to Mahomes,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be interesting. So we'll keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1: But right now, I'm confident with a six and a
Speaker 1: half on Casey last one here. Maybe this would have
Speaker 1: been a lot more fun a few weeks ago theoretically
Speaker 1: than it is now. The Jacksonville Jaguars at home eight
Speaker 1: and three taking on the Bengals of five and six.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow set to have his surgery today, so we're
Speaker 1: not gonna have him obviously the rest of season. But
Speaker 1: the eight points is the total is the number here?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? The Jacksonville Jaguars are favored by it's a
Speaker 1: pretty good sized number for the Jags coming off a
Speaker 1: huge win. Thirty nine is the over under plus three
Speaker 1: hundred for the Bengals. Upset your thoughts, pat On this
Speaker 1: game is eight too much or just about right.
Speaker 2: Just about right. I don't see any value in this.
Speaker 2: Jaguars are a really good team. It's said that we're
Speaker 2: not getting a Joe Burrow Trevor Lawrence matchup that would
Speaker 2: have been fantastic. The line seems right. I just I
Speaker 2: feel sorry for the Bengals and having to go into
Speaker 2: this game without their their swaggy QB. So I don't
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna touch this one.
Speaker 1: Sam, you touching this Monday Night contest?
Speaker 3: I'm not. The Jacksonville Jaguars are obviously been a very
Speaker 3: good team this year, currently in contention for the number
Speaker 3: one seed, which would make my bank account very happy.
Speaker 3: But the Jaguars just like haven't totally been able to
Speaker 3: put teams away. They had to blow out win against
Speaker 3: the Titans a couple of weeks ago, but just a
Speaker 3: ten point win over the Steelers, a seven point win
Speaker 3: over New Orleans like They're just it doesn't seem like
Speaker 3: they're totally equipped to put teams away. They have one
Speaker 3: of the worst rushing offenses in the league, so if
Speaker 3: they are passing the ball a ton, and I think
Speaker 3: that's where one of the bigger weaknesses for Cincinnati's defenses,
Speaker 3: then for sure. I love the Jaguars, but I'm not
Speaker 3: sure that that's going to be the case this Sunday,
Speaker 3: so excuse me next Monday. So I'm staying away from
Speaker 3: this one as well.
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Speaker 1: ATN overs. Whatever they're going to put them at doesn't matter,
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Speaker 1: score too. He has been read hot the last few weeks.
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