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Speaker 1: Ladies and jumbles.

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Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, well, buckle up,

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Speaker 2: sweet cheeks. All We've got all the experience in the world.

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Speaker 2: This is I want your flex with Dan Byer and

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon. Mike and Dan break down everything you need

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Speaker 2: to set your lineups, from position rankings.

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Speaker 1: To starts and sins. The guys help you make those

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Speaker 2: And now let's get your flexod Here's Dan Bayer and

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: Backs to the future. That's our theme here on. I

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Speaker 3: want your flex hip. Mike up at Schwollendome. You've got

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Speaker 3: me at Dan Bayer on Fox. We are talking running

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Speaker 3: backs in this edition of our twenty twenty four Fantasy

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Speaker 3: Football Preview. The running back position one I know. Dear

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Speaker 3: to your heart, Mike, dear to my heart. We grew

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Speaker 3: up in the running backs era. It is not the

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Speaker 3: them any less.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you'd use the back to the future.

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Speaker 4: You know where we're going. We don't need roads and

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Speaker 4: a lot of these offense, you don't need road graders anymore.

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Speaker 4: At the offensive line, it's all about how can they

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Speaker 4: pot pass protect and pass block after quick screens and

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Speaker 4: was in our youth, Dan, you know, three yards and

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Speaker 4: three things that we I think got to pray for

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Speaker 3: What is your window for the top tier? How many backs?

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Speaker 3: I think we know a lot of the names and

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Speaker 4: I still have it at three and I think I

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Speaker 4: then it's just a jumbling of order and you know

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Speaker 4: they're involved in the passing game, right, is it a

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Speaker 4: forty catch season or with a season of health and circumstance,

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Speaker 4: a year ago that was primarily what his value was.

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Speaker 4: It was as a pass catch, yeah, versus some of

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Speaker 3: All right, who is on this metal stand of three

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Speaker 4: Difficult to just not pencil or bring out the giant

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Speaker 4: playing this preseason. Is it all a big ROPI dope

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Speaker 4: we have to do in sports radio, folks, is teach

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Speaker 4: And then right behind him it's Robinson and Hall, and

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Speaker 4: then I think there's just that gap of trust, concern

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Speaker 4: try to, you know, color it in. You had twenty

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Speaker 4: You had only twelve players top one thousand yards, which

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Speaker 3: It's funny because if you look at Christian McCaffrey's numbers

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Speaker 4: See I think the ceiling is much higher. And look,

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Speaker 4: that one, Dan, But it's just that young guy. But

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Speaker 4: The dan goes to what the national narrative. Like, if

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Speaker 4: It's Rashad White operated an absolute anonymity in Tampa. Here

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Speaker 4: And you hate to see seasons and I know you

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Speaker 3: but I mean, they're they're in lockstep, and you know,

434
00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 3: Chubb week one is not really a possibility. So to

435
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 3: your point, Ford has already got the head start.

436
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gave him a nod very early in a

437
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 4: Guia team league. So we'll run with him as long

438
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 4: as those kid legs will carry me. But the rest

439
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 4: of that second tier, right, we look at guys like

440
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, We look at guys like Aaron Jones. I mean,

441
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: and this is actually the you know, obviously, the back

442
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 4: end of that tier around where Walker's being drafted. You

443
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 4: got James Connor, who I think I'm a little higher on.

444
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 4: But look now he's got competition. He's got a rookie

445
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 4: on his heels in the backfield, and Trey Benson, so

446
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 4: you know, all of a sudden workloads splits, and all

447
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: of it's going to be predicated on whether Number one

448
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: can still keep playing turbo versus being on the sideline. Right,

449
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 4: so you've got that. We already talked about Montgomery. The

450
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 4: situation in Pittsburgh is potentially just ugly. Time after time

451
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 4: is a mere White's a name that folks like. And

452
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 4: then we didn't talk about him before. But you got

453
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 4: eight Chan being drafted around You know that ten eleven

454
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 4: running back overall Moster. All right, you expect the regression

455
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 4: of his touchdown total, Dan, but it's not like he's suddenly.

456
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: Going to be putting off balls. Yeah, yet he's being.

457
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: Drafted like he is, Yes, way down. A lot of

458
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 3: love a Han and the drafts I've taken part in,

459
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: not so much about Mostart, but yeah, the touchdown numbers

460
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: are there. I think people forget about the breakaway speed

461
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: that Mostard has possessed throughout his career. Now, when your

462
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: early thirties, you wonder if you have that. But yeah,

463
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: I agree, I think he's going to be a vital part.

464
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 3: And plus it's not like eight Chan is going to

465
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: be a getting thirty carries a game and b We've

466
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: already seen eight chan being split out wide in certain

467
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 3: formations as well, so that's going to be a part

468
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: of his I guess touches or usage as well. So

469
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 3: moster it's going to have a role.

470
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, So to that end, let's just stay in Miami

471
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Speaker 4: for a sec. What do you think of the new

472
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: look of Mike McDaniel. A lot of memes, a lot

473
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 4: of jokes that Miami has had its way with him

474
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 4: over time.

475
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 3: I love it. I think it's great. He's one of

476
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: my favorite coaches. I think it's lean into it as

477
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 3: much as you can. There's also the point of making

478
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 3: it through a couple of seasons where hey, if you're

479
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 3: going to do it now, you're not gonna be the

480
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: Dolphins coach forever. You know, you're not going to be

481
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: in your thirties or however old he is, forties, early forties, forever.

482
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 3: I have no idea how old Mike McDaniel is.

483
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: But that's a good question.

484
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, but you know, you might as well lean

485
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: into it when you can, because when it's gone, it's gone.

486
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: Trust me. I bought a golf shirt a month ago

487
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: Mike that I thought was like, oh, this will look cool.

488
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: It automatically made me an old guy. Oh no, yes, yes,

489
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: it completely did. I see it myself. Usually you can't

490
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 3: see it yourself. I'm like, wow, I look like an

491
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: old guy. I'd like to try to look young, but

492
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 3: it just didn't happen. Maybe it's the shirt I should

493
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: wear anyway instead of trying to look younger. But yeah,

494
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: so if I'm Mike McDaniel, I lean into it as

495
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: much as possible.

496
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I bought one of these sets of those gold

497
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: things that people put under their eyes, trying to restore

498
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 4: the youth because most of the time, you know, people guess,

499
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: so a very wide range of age for me, Dan,

500
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Speaker 4: I especially the fact that I still dress like a

501
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: toddl But it's the fact that the eyes betray me.

502
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 4: If I'm wearing a ball cap, nobody sees what's a

503
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: little bit patchy in the back. So it all goes

504
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: back to the eyes and whether you see how sunken

505
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 4: they may be.

506
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: I will do that for you.

507
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 4: Every week here on I watch your flex burning the

508
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Speaker 4: Midnight Oil.

509
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: He's Mike carbon I'm Dan Byer. We've got one more

510
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 3: segment left. Mike's going to rattle off a few running

511
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: backs that he likes. I may name one or two

512
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 3: as well. We're talking more backs and we'll be back

513
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: next here, and I want your flex. All right, let's

514
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 3: get into some of the backs that I don't know,

515
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: may not be in the top two or three tiers

516
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 3: that we talked about, but backs that you want to

517
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: keep your eye on, that you're thinking about, almost our

518
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: ninjas kind of if you will, on this season gets underway.

519
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 3: Who are some names to keep tabs on Mike at

520
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: the running back position? Maybe latent drafts.

521
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we mentioned him, you know, kind of

522
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 4: talking about the overall numbers. But you know, Eckler comes

523
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 4: to Washington assumption that Robinson is going to suddenly take

524
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Speaker 4: a huge back seat.

525
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: I don't see it.

526
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: Still going to be active and you've got a rookie

527
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 4: quarterback and you're gonna utilize every one of those receivers

528
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: and running backs such can so Robinson a guy I

529
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 4: think that's fallen off the radar a little more than

530
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: he should have. I'm looking at Zach Moss in Cincinnati.

531
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Speaker 4: I'll go down that rabbit hole again. My investment's gonna

532
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 4: be small, right. It's one of those all about value

533
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: propositions and where I have to draft him because you've

534
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 4: got Chase Brown going a few slots earlier on average,

535
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Speaker 4: I'll take Moss as that back end three, high end

536
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 4: four guy with upside. Jonathan Brooks in Carolina not sure

537
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 4: you know how quickly he gets deployed, which I think

538
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 4: is a bonus. If Jerry Jones hadn't you know, opened

539
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: his big mouth, he might have been able to actually

540
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: draft him this last year because he talked about how

541
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 4: much he coven him instead of got Ezekiel Elliott back.

542
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, staying away from the Cowboys. By the way,

543
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: the Bengals did go out and get Zack Moss, and

544
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: I think that that has value. Like Chase Brown, maybe

545
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: getting some of the headlines and maybe the sexy pick,

546
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 3: but they had to find somebody to replace Joe Mixon

547
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: and they went and they chose Zach Moss, So I

548
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: think that does bring in some value.

549
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: Absolutely, we talk about the more the handcuff or deep

550
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: flyer kind of guys, just real quick. Dan mentioned Mitchell

551
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 4: in San Francisco before. If I'm drafting McCaffrey, I don't

552
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 4: want to, you know, have to do a gross overpay,

553
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 4: but I want to make sure I'm solidified in one

554
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 4: of the best offenses in the game. And then you've

555
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: got bigs B with Jacksonville again owing to ETN and

556
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 4: usage and perhaps the injury possibility, Keaton Mitchell in Baltimore

557
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 4: because that identity is not going to suddenly change no

558
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 4: matter how much they want to change up Lamar Jackson

559
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: as a thrower. And then the guy I think I

560
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: circle most and look, this is a last round, last

561
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: before your kicker, Guy Kimani the.

562
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: Doll oh yes.

563
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: Of the charger. Why Gus Edwards and JK Dobbins. What's

564
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: the over un DRON games for them combined?

565
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: Dan?

566
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: JK is probably about six? Gus I would say is

567
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: about ten. So sixteen.

568
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: Well, yes, so you know including the overlap. Let's do

569
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 4: that math. So you got about nine games real. So,

570
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 4: Vodal's a guy that, barring a bunch of shuffling in

571
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: these final days before the season starts or even in season,

572
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 4: you know, someone gets cut free based on something, and

573
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: that happens in the first couple of weeks. Vandal's a

574
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: guy that's going to see time eventually.

575
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: What about I'm gonna give you a name. Well, I'll

576
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: just say this. It's not a name that's deep, but

577
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: it's a name that's not getting a lot of love,

578
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: and maybe we should have done it. Last segment for

579
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: the reasons why I liked Zach brom with Cincinnati. It

580
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: just made me realize, reminder, Stevenson is getting zero love

581
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: in New England because we think they're gonna stink sure

582
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: no matter who the quarterback is, and we think they're

583
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: gonna be down twenty one nothing. All of that may

584
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: be the case, but if Stevenson is falling like I

585
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: think he will in a lot of drafts, people do

586
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: need to realize doing that did pay him this offseason,

587
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: So I do believe that it maybe early, Mike, it

588
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: may not last long. But I don't think that you're

589
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: going to be disappointed if you end up sitting there

590
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: in a draft to being like, I don't know who

591
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: to take. Who am I going to take as a flyer?

592
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: As an upside, and you see Stevenson slip, I wouldn't

593
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: mind taking him because I do think New England has

594
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: him in their immediate plans and otherwise they wouldn't have

595
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: paid him this past offseason. So I do like that play,

596
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: at least if he's falling in your drafts.

597
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: Oh, I think you're one hundred percent right.

598
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: He's a guy that great talent and whatever we've talked

599
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: about the Patriots, and most of it has been fairly

600
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: dismissive this offseason, let's call it what it is. And

601
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: obviously he missed time at the end of last year.

602
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: But a guy who's very active in the passing game.

603
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: So when Drake may is finally under centered, guess what,

604
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: there's his number one safety valve. The other being that

605
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: there's nobody fighting for his spot. Right, how many of

606
00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 4: these other guys when we start talking about RB eighteen

607
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: or twenty on, which is where Stevenson's falls in on average,

608
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 4: where they're not saying, all right, we're definitely splitting us

609
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: up to maybe three ways, plus a quarterback that can

610
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: run Bechriuse. New England sure as hell doesn't have that

611
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: damn nor so, so you're not worried about all, right,

612
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: quarterbacks now running for eight hundred yards and taking six

613
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: scores away.

614
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: No, Stevenson's a guy.

615
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: I think you hit it on the head, like for

616
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: all of those reasons, and getting paid as a running back,

617
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: you can you can be sure they'll get every carry

618
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 4: in touch, they can.

619
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: All right, my last my last name, and then you

620
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: can finish the ones. This is deep. Javonte Williams getting

621
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: a lot of loving Denver. You have samaj p Ryan.

622
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: What about Audric estimate? There was a lot of pub

623
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: going from him. Would you take him as a last

624
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: round pick maybe second to last round pick, there's any

625
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: success or any any opportunity to take a running back there.

626
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: I think I would.

627
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 4: You know, Sean Payton, you know, as much as I

628
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: made downplay the genius tag and everything that everybody wants

629
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 4: to and the guys don't have to do it anymore.

630
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: I mean, Drew Brees isn't walking through that door, but

631
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 4: it can't be as bad as it was with us.

632
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: And you still know the guy can coach up some

633
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: offense and scheme it up. So from the running back perspective, yeah,

634
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: I think he's a guy that he's spoken really well

635
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 4: of him at a number of occasions during the during camp,

636
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: in the preseason, almost unprompted, Hey give me a name.

637
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: So like when you start seeing a coach doing that,

638
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: it's either the all right, we just like this kid

639
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: and we want to make sure he gets another look,

640
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: if he's gonna be cut or he's going to be

641
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: part of our plans, I would think with Peyton and

642
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 4: what they're trying to restart there, it's the ladder so

643
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: final rounds. Yeah, I mean, as you're RB five with

644
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 4: some upside, absolutely just.

645
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: A name to throw out anybody else that we're missing, Mike.

646
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: You go go down the deep list.

647
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so many of these guys that may

648
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: knock on the door, right Evan holl my obligatory Northwestern

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Speaker 4: nod in Indianapolis. But he's not touching the ball unless

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor gets hurt. So I don't think he's a

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Speaker 4: guy that needs to be rostered right away, but certainly

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Speaker 4: keep an eye on him because he's you know, missed

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Speaker 4: to come in and then CHEWBA Hubbard in Carolina talked

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Speaker 4: about Brooks before. It's a little bit crowded, but you

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Speaker 4: know it's it's now just a question of what Dave

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Speaker 4: Canalis can get going, and it really just event again

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Speaker 4: goes back to the value play because you know, people

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Speaker 4: they're not going to be any good owing to that

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Speaker 4: Stevenson note just a minute ago, like they're gonna put

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Speaker 4: up some numbers. I think with Canalis at the helm,

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Speaker 4: how great we you know we we see the quarterback

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Speaker 4: position push forward with Bryce Shunk. I don't know, but

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Speaker 4: based on what they did a year ago, you can't

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Speaker 4: get any worse. Again, owing another quote for that you

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Speaker 4: gave us earlier, it can't be any worse talking about

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Speaker 4: the Jets line as we got things going, so I'll

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Speaker 3: All right, perfect, give Mike at swellin'dom. You can find

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Speaker 3: me at Dan Bayer on Fox. We're halfway through our

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Speaker 3: pre season schedule. Wide receivers and height ends, pass catchers

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Speaker 3: coming up next, and then we'll do our final mock

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Speaker 3: before the season begins. So for Mike Carmen, I'm Dan Byer. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: football is getting closer and closer. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: if you've realized this awesome. If you haven't, it is

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Speaker 3: a podcast. Mike and I are recording this ahead of

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Speaker 3: time from you listening to it. So sometimes news does

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Speaker 3: break and changes things that we said. Unfortunately, for the

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Speaker 3: sake of the podcast, you'll just have to take that

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Speaker 3: into account, because we can't go back in the time

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Speaker 3: and then change it as it happens. It's the world

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Speaker 3: we live in, Mike, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 1: No, that's all right.

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Speaker 4: And look, even if it makes me look bad, if

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Speaker 4: you're going to evangelize and tell all your family and

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Speaker 4: friend to download the podcast, and you get us more

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Speaker 4: and more people listening to the next idiotic thing that

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Speaker 4: comes out of my mouth. In the end, we've won, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And it also gives you reason to listen to

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Speaker 3: Mike and myself live on Fox Sports Radio whenever you

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Speaker 3: can no question. He's Mike, he's Mike Harmon, I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 3: We will talk to you next time right here, and

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Speaker 3: I want your fleas