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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: It is either Wednesday, November three or Thursday, November fourth,

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Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure. The podcast drumps. We got a

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about today. We're talking about Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: We're talking about bron We're talking about Harden, We're talking

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Speaker 2: about max Is Nice, and we are talking about the

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Speaker 2: next two chapters of Marcus Thompson's Dynasty. So stick around

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Speaker 2: for all of that. But as always, Jenkins and Jones

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Speaker 2: is hosted by my good buddies, Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody have the gun.

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Speaker 2: Jethro aka John, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Bubba's We're just gonna do a fake John voice about

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Speaker 1: the episode.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be funny if I just uh? John is

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Speaker 2: is a d n p uh with a hospital visit

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Speaker 2: today and his message is, uh, tell everyone your boy

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Speaker 2: is about to be a motherfucking dad Bubba and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that women are fucking gods and then he married

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Speaker 2: a real one. So that's our update from John.

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Speaker 3: Boy about to be a pappin.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I know some some hearts probably dropped when

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Speaker 1: they heard John was in the hospital, but it's the

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Speaker 1: best type of hospital visiting.

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Speaker 3: You're so excited, so excited.

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Speaker 2: We're having a hard time. I'm I don't I'm having

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Speaker 2: a hard time focusing on anything else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been like I was waking up in the

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Speaker 1: middle of night checking my phone and ship, you know.

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Speaker 1: I I texted him like six am his time and

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Speaker 1: see what was up going on. I'm fucking on the

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Speaker 1: edge of my seat, Like he texted us yesterday, it

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, the water broke and there on the.

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Speaker 3: Way to the hospital, I was like, bro, this is

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Speaker 3: a movie. Shit.

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Speaker 1: I was like, tell her to breathe. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what else to say right now, but I'm excited. And

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Speaker 1: of course, and of course y'all texted me back and

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Speaker 1: said that he woo breathing shit weak as fuck.

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Speaker 3: In John matter. So yeah, man, we're excited as hell. Man,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. It's when when one of your close

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Speaker 2: a man's friend you're even more just like, Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: this is the only thing I'm gonna think about all day.

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Speaker 2: Let me know how it goes, right, All right, Well

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Speaker 2: let's talk about sports or whatever. I guess Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: we found out today UH tested positive for the coronavirus

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Speaker 2: and will not play this weekend against the Chiefs. I

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Speaker 2: had actually been very excited for that Packers Chiefs game.

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Speaker 2: But it turns out Tyler that not only did he

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Speaker 2: all this season. Bro.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: He someone asked him, you know, last summer during training

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Speaker 1: You slide dog, you you you lawyers speech motherfucker, and

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Speaker 1: you got us, but the COVID got you. So you

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Speaker 1: tried to play the long game here and you know

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Speaker 1: Hobe he bounces back one hundred percent, But this is

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing maybe, you know, especially with the protocols and stuffs.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it raises some other questions. I mean, people

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Speaker 2: are were recording this, like right after this story broke,

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Speaker 2: He said, did he have a fake VAX card? I

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Speaker 1: Yes, he was fully transparent you know, fucking crazy ass

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Speaker 2: So and Aaron Rodgers did the whitest shit ever I'm immunized.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, his face is so he has such a

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Speaker 1: And now I feel like the whole fucking league is

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Speaker 1: We're having difficulties and win and it's right and you

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Speaker 1: Like like this is that ship that's gonna happen where

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Speaker 2: I have had one of those emails sent. And I

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Speaker 2: don't care how much you say you don't give a

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Speaker 2: sun money right right, they're talking about me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, motherfucking Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Man out here when the John Wick fucking Halloween cop

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Speaker 3: What the fuck?

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Speaker 2: And he? I mean, because here's it. Because the thing is,

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's like the regular season game.

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Speaker 1: When we saw that shit, you know, when the schedule

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Speaker 2: I put essential oils in my mustache under my nose

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: I drunk ginger tea every morning to boost by immune system.

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Speaker 3: Fucking god, damn it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the Braves did it? They did not?

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Speaker 2: They did not Atlanta it. A lot of our friends

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Speaker 2: and I am equally happy that fuck the Astros. I

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Speaker 2: was messaging with our friend Tyler i Am last night

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Speaker 2: as we were trying to see if someone else wanted

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Speaker 2: which was nice. But how did you watch any of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they did not Atlanta themselves. And maybe they turn

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Speaker 3: This could be the start of a new era.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe the Braves or someone are the team

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Speaker 3: Who knows, we'll.

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Speaker 2: See that's true, but that. Yeah, so you need the

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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, the Falcons are not The Falcons aren't even

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Speaker 3: Maybe they've got a shot. We're not. The Falcons were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Georgia's a Yeah, Georgia is a much more legitimate shot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: for sure. Really enjoyed the Lakers game last night, and

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna win, like they're gonna always let the

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Speaker 1: You know, right right that fucking fourth quarter from Bron man, sheeesh,

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Speaker 3: So just let people enjoy things.

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Speaker 2: Stop being a hater, right Yeah, I think, yes, maybe

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Speaker 1: That's why you just gotta you can, just got to

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'm with you, And I thought actually last night

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Speaker 1: fingers crossed. But that is like, that's what we wanted

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Speaker 1: to look like in the playoffs, just beating you know,

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to talk about we didn't get a

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Speaker 1: First of all, I do not feel any any owsome

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Speaker 1: you never needed to do that cheap shit. You're so good, Bro,

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Speaker 3: For one.

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Speaker 1: That's not a basketball move, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I can't ride with that. But but you know, I

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Speaker 1: I think he's still going to be a twenty five

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would say, like spiritually I agree

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Speaker 2: the last time and rules were changed against an offensive

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Speaker 4: Is fucking everything up, like like banning Kareem dunks and

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Speaker 4: shit like okay, you're you're you're getting buckets too easily here, buddy,

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, it's it's it's a very interesting circumstance.

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Speaker 1: And the rests are sticking to it, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, I don't think this is hard

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Speaker 1: It was just time to It was just time to to,

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Speaker 1: you know, stop hitting Geico with those fucking fraudulent claims,

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Speaker 1: Buddy Well, and.

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Speaker 2: Then you know, he's certainly not the only one with

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Speaker 2: That's dangerous for the defenders.

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Speaker 3: Sup and Swap. Yeah, the Chris Paul tre right, So they.

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Speaker 2: Needed to change it. But in addition to messing with

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Speaker 2: is also especially if Kyrie doesn't come back, that really

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Speaker 2: but if you go from that to Katie and Harden

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Speaker 3: KD and Harden.

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Speaker 1: You know, before it was it was Katie Hardened and

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Speaker 1: I'm saying like that is that that is a substantial

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see, man, I'm curious to see. It

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Speaker 2: And uh, I don't think that. I don't think. I mean,

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Speaker 3: The rest are not budget It's time to figure it out, Jim.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this is one of those stories. It's

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Speaker 2: like if John was here, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 2: But this is the thing we've talked about the most

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Speaker 2: a job. Was allegedly robbed at gunpoint in LA for

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Speaker 2: his jewelry and filmed himself giving an account of what

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Speaker 2: he when the guys who were robbing him at gunpoint

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Speaker 3: You guys love some flongs.

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Speaker 1: Motherfucker's got the burning your face and you're talking about

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Speaker 1: some goddamn meat ball mare and Arrow's boy, what the fuck?

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Speaker 3: Listen?

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, so I'm I'm fully on board with the theory

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Speaker 1: that is insurance fraud, you know, for one, because I

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Speaker 1: Like he flicks himself up with with the ice and

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Speaker 3: They took my Jane, they took my rolex.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like he gives us that

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Speaker 1: whole rundown and and and the shit he said about,

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Speaker 1: you know, the robbers saying we're starving out here. I've

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Speaker 1: never been robbed, but I don't know if robbers talk

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Speaker 1: like that. Bro, You know what I mean, that's some

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Speaker 1: family matters bullshit. Bro, that's some Eddie Winslow shit. Man.

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Speaker 1: I do not see motherfucker's telling me, yo, we're starving

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Speaker 1: there's a subway right there if you guys want a

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Speaker 1: footlog on me. Man, Like, it's just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's a crazy fucking story whether it happened or not,

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Speaker 1: but you know he lived to either lie about it

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Speaker 1: gonna laugh at it because that's funny as fuck. You

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Speaker 1: luck at those motherfuckers, ain't God damn like your ass up.

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Speaker 1: Those motherfuckers wanted diamonds and you're offering them a tune

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Speaker 1: them out.

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Speaker 3: That is insulting.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: You need to count your lucky thoughts if that shit

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Speaker 1: I know you.

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Speaker 2: Want the iced out rolex, but can I interest you

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Speaker 2: in a soft cookie?

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Speaker 3: Those raspberry cheesecake cookies.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you listen, I have not been robbed personally,

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Speaker 2: but I would tell you a law of life that

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Speaker 2: the conversation, the conversation is over, bro, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Like, yeah, he said, he asked him. He said,

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Speaker 2: let me let me cash ap you dollars each?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, can you guys give me a trail? Can

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Speaker 1: I pay to have you guys arrested later on? Can

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Speaker 1: we work that out? That's basically what he Let's.

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Speaker 2: Put the firearms on the table. Can I get your

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Speaker 2: routing number?

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Speaker 1: Can I put a deposit down on getting you traced

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Speaker 1: to the police? Is that something that you'd be open

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Speaker 1: to here? What the fuck?

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Speaker 3: Max?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, this is some special shit. And I you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on the insurance fraud because I don't think. Look,

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Speaker 2: the punishment for hitting someone is not particularly higher than

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Speaker 2: the punishment for robbing someone a gunpoint. And anyone who's

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Speaker 2: are and what they can and can't do is in

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Speaker 2: my understanding, right, So there's no way you say to

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Speaker 2: these dudes, let me cash ap you, let me take

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Speaker 2: you to subway, and they don't hit you on the.

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Speaker 3: That's enough out of you.

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Speaker 1: You would have got gun budded or you know, some

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Speaker 1: goddamn steamboat robbery type bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you catch some you get a you get a

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Speaker 2: truth serum injection, right, You get a like, you know what, buddy,

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Speaker 2: we need you to just shut the fuck up and

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Speaker 2: do it what we're telling you to do, like and

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Speaker 2: he looked pristine as fuck, except that he was missing

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Speaker 2: his jewelry. So I'm with you on the insurance fraud thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's a conspiracy theory. That

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, Yeah, it's it's I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That was a fucking story, Bro. That was some goddamn

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Speaker 1: fresh prince ship. Remember when when when Will got shot

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Speaker 1: during the robbery at.

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Speaker 2: The at.

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Speaker 3: Because did you see it too? When he was like,

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Speaker 3: when they try to rob me again, it ain't gonna.

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Speaker 2: Go so.

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Speaker 1: Like mother motherfucker's Carton Banks with the motherfucking revolverings in

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Speaker 1: the hospital room right now, Bro, what the fuck man?

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Speaker 2: Damn?

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Speaker 1: I wish I wish John was here for this segment.

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Speaker 1: He'd have been pure comedy. Yeah, I know, he he

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Speaker 1: I'm asking nigga, you talking about la different motherfuckers. Motherfucker's

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Speaker 1: been getting robbed since since the motherfucking stage coach days, Bro,

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Speaker 1: Nigga you out here offering the Robbers tune the South

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Speaker 1: Nigga you different? LA ain't different, nigga, you different. That's

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Speaker 1: my John depression.

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Speaker 2: That's fucking great. That's perfect. Thank you that boy. That

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Speaker 2: did my spirit good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the way I found the video was everyone in

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Speaker 2: Long Beach and Compton in LA was just quoting it,

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Speaker 2: it's always been What the fuck I mean, he.

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Speaker 1: Won't get your ass clapped up? Like that's the biggest

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Speaker 1: takeaway that should have came from all of this bro right.

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Speaker 2: Because he said, he walked out of the club wearing, however,

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Speaker 2: many tens of thousands of dollars in jewelry by himself,

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00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 2: like not paying any kind of attention, Like, dude, there

438
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 2: are like you are being staked out the people looking

439
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: for that ship. And he posted his jewelry on his

440
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: fucking social media and everything too, you know what I mean.

441
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: So that motherfucker looked like a bro was in all white,

442
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: just like glowing, like come rob me.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, right, I don't know, man.

444
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, but like to suggest that there's always

445
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 2: been part of LA, the bigger part of LA feeding

446
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 2: on that, you know, the the and it's just there's

447
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: a lot more quite frankly, there's a lot more stupid

448
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: fucking people in LA with money at this point because if.

449
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Speaker 1: You I imagine, I imagine the influencer in flux, guys

450
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: got the jack boys like, oh yeah, it's time to

451
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: eat now, and we ain't talking subway, were talking those motherfuckings,

452
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So yeah, I can for

453
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Speaker 1: sure see that.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not eating a subway right now. Because it

455
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: like when you came to Hollywood for money, if you

456
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 2: were involved in the film industry, there was an industry

457
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 2: built to protect you and to explain things to you

458
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: in security, et cetera. With the YouTube TikTok shit, it's

459
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: just one. It's just twenty year olds from fucking Indiana

460
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 2: moving to LA, like.

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Speaker 1: What exactly, and and like you were saying about like

462
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, the actors who were coming in, they would

463
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Speaker 1: be protected it because it was like motherfuckers, like we're

464
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 1: the only ones who are going to extort these guys,

465
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you know, and robs them.

466
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Speaker 3: But us, we need to get that understood, you know

467
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Speaker 3: what I mean? So they bring the mom in for

468
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Speaker 3: that type of muscle of shit.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's a whole different world with these

470
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Speaker 1: fucking influencers now, Bro, they I'm sure they looking like

471
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Speaker 1: food out there right now.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Yea. They just look like a big

473
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Speaker 2: lazy seal just floating on the surface, turn his circles

474
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Speaker 2: happy as fucking the sunlight, like there's a whole ocean

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Speaker 1: Bro, right with the motherfucking Lebron High School jersey on

477
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Speaker 1: just looking like food.

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Speaker 2: eight hundred gambler. Okay, let's talk about Dynasties by Marcus Thompson.

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Speaker 2: We are talking about the Kobe and Shaq Lakers chapter

514
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: and the Duncan Spurs chapter. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I

515
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: love these chapters because this is my this is my shit,

516
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

517
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Speaker 1: Right right' It's you know, like like the shit that

518
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: we weren't there for, that we were too young for.

519
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: Was was history. This is like nostalgia reminiscing type.

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00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Shit, you know, yes, so for sure, So yeah, man,

521
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: I will say the one thing you know there, I'm

522
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: always learning something in these in these chapters, even when

523
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: I think I know every fucking thing. Like I swore

524
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: I knew everything about the Shaton Kobe Lakes, I had

525
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: no idea Phil Jackson and Jerry West had beef.

526
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Speaker 2: You know that. Yes, Yeah, that's not that That's why

527
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: that that's part of why Jerry uh has been at

528
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: the other California teams and has said that the bridge

529
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: to the Lakers has closed because since obviously Uh Jerry

530
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Speaker 2: Buss's daughter and Phil, you know, we're an item and

531
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: everything there's it's like it's all still wrapped up in

532
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: that ship. Yeah. No, he he was. He was really

533
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: like hurt by the way everything went down. And I

534
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: would say, quite understandably, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 2: he's at least as responsible as Phil, I would say,

536
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Speaker 2: for you know, certainly for putting the team together.

537
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Speaker 3: Oh, for sure.

538
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: He got Kobe and Shaq fucking like three weeks apart,

539
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: Like come on, man, yeah.

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00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: You know, and so and then all he's done is

541
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 2: go to other teams and pull off similar moves, right,

542
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: but not have the head coach be like, oh, this

543
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: is an old man bro, Like this dude's not cool

544
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 2: enough to hang out with me, you know.

545
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: Like I don't like the way that beef stem from it.

546
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Speaker 1: I mean, it might have stem from the playing days,

547
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Speaker 1: but I don't.

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Speaker 3: I just don't.

549
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't understand old guys, you know, in management and

550
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: coaching beefing like that for no fucking reason.

551
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: But it's kind of cute, isn't it. It's like you

552
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: both just a couple of rich, old white dudes, bro

553
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: Like why are you mad at each other?

554
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: Crumpy old men, you know, like like like fucking what

555
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: Walter Matthew or wherever the right, Like it's like some

556
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: shit like that.

557
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Speaker 3: I did not know that, though you learn something new

558
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: every day.

559
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I what what I learn. Well, I

560
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't say I learned it. But what was interesting for

561
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: me is it's difficult to explain to kids, Like when

562
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: I talk to high school kids, you can't really explain

563
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: to them how different it was being a basketball fan

564
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: in the nineties and early two thousands, when you didn't

565
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: have smartphones. The Internet did not exist in the way

566
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: that it currently exists. There was no Twitter or social media,

567
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: and so it was like I just remember literally hearing

568
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: on ESPN that we got shack, you know what I mean.

569
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: There wasn't this like when the Lakers signed Braun. I

570
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: had been thinking about that moment for two fucking years

571
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: and following every like I knew what high school is.

572
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: He and Savannah had been going on tours of to

573
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: see where their kids like and at the time, I mean,

574
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: certainly It's not like there weren't celebrities and a media saturation.

575
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: It just was not as in your face. So reading

576
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: the story of how that team got put together in

577
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 2: that short period of time, it just was like I

578
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: was thinking a lot about that, how differently we would

579
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: have experienced that now versus then when it was like,

580
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: I don't know, it was just it really made me

581
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: remember how different it was and kind of more enjoyable,

582
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, in my opinion, to be

583
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Speaker 2: a sports fan at that time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

585
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Speaker 1: I vividly remember, you know, the summer ninety six, and

586
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Speaker 1: I remember the two big free agents were Gary Payton

587
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: and Michael Jordan that summer. No one really put a

588
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: lot of those into where Shack was going to kind of,

589
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, assumed that he was just gonna reap with

590
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: the Magic and then we got that news that he

591
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: went to the Lakers. That shit was a shocker, you

592
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. None of us really saw that

593
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: shit coming. We were blut side about that. But but

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00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: it kind of kind of goes back to to how

595
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: because the thing is like like when when when people

596
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: talk about that trade, now they talk about how people

597
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: in Orlando saw it coming because because you know, the

598
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: thing about the whole there wasn't a really national fucking

599
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: sports media like it is today, you know what I mean,

600
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Speaker 1: Like people in Orlando were tagged and like they were like, bro,

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00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: he's probably not coming back.

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Speaker 3: But then the rest of the fucking nation was kind

603
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: of taken aback by it, you.

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00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, for sure, because at the time, the only

605
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: thing that would make it from the Magic to Sports Center,

606
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: which was the only national thing that everyone was really

607
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: watching or inside the NBA or whatever, was a clip

608
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: of Shaq dunking. You know you were you weren't reading

609
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: beat beat writers, weren't on Twitter like I followed beat

610
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: writers from the Magic. I don't give a fuck about

611
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: the Magic, you know what I mean. Yeah, but if

612
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: they had a shack now who was expressing that he

613
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: was not all that happy, we would we would all

614
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: know about it ten seconds after the dude fucking said exactly,

615
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: so yeah, that that aspect of it was crazy. And

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Speaker 2: then I just remember, like, I don't know, I mean,

617
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: I watched so many of those that get those playoff

618
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: games with friends of mine who are big Lakers fans,

619
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Speaker 2: and it's so much fun watching games on Twitter with

620
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Speaker 2: people now. But being fucking sixteen and being a fan

621
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: of the best basketball team in the world, is that

622
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: it was the fucking best. You're just hanging out, you

623
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: go play basketball outside for fucking four hours after a

624
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: game was.

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00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: Over, you know, right, just turn the fuck up. Yeah, yeah,

626
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: it was.

627
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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a different It was a different era back then,

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Speaker 1: back when you were waiting to like, you know, go

630
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: to school the next day to talk shit, you know,

631
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: instead of being on Twitter during the whole fucking vi

632
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: and shit, you know, whole different vibes. It was a

633
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: good time, man, totally. But Marcus made a good point

634
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: in and that Lakers after about how, you know, the

635
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: rift and the beef between Shaq and Kobe, how that

636
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: kind of ushered in the whole you know, media spin

637
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: off kind of examining the personal feelings of NBA players,

638
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, in regards of how they felt to each other,

639
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: and that is a staple of NBA covers. Now, does

640
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: this guy like this guy, does that guy like that guy?

641
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: Why doesn't this guy like this guy? Does this guy

642
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: want to play with this guy? Why does this guy

643
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: want to leave that guy?

644
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And that you can. And

645
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: and he makes the good point that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the the kind of the the the the

647
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: tumultuous relationship between Shaq and Kobe was kind.

648
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: Of where that all spalling from.

649
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's and he brought up the free agency

650
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: thing too. He said, the NBA has grown into a

651
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: twelve month sport. The transactions, the relationships, the frictions, they're

652
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: all part of the never ending storyline in the NBA.

653
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: And the league has Kobe Shakla has the Kobe shack

654
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: Lakers and things. For that, I'd certainly never thought of that.

655
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: I just grew up with. Yeah, you'd see in the

656
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: paper every day. I mean, it was just like that's

657
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: what the LA times be. You know, we talked to

658
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: Ja about it, you know, but like that's what everyone

659
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 2: was hanging on that shit. You know, did co we

660
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: say something passive aggressive about Shaq whatever else? Because it

661
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: was like, you know, it was like your parents were fighting.

662
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: You just you're always reading the tee leaves. I'm like,

663
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: is this gonna be a good weekend or are we

664
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: you know, like am I sneaking out the back or whatever?

665
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Right, Like we didn't find out that MJ fucking you know,

666
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: black balled Zeke from the Dream Team till fucking years later.

667
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: Like we didn't know that shit summer ninety two, you

668
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, But we kind we we kind

669
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: of knew that, you know, Kobe and Shack had their

670
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: differences in real time. Like I remember that two two

671
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: thousand and one season when they were going on like

672
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: a skit, like the second half of the season. There

673
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: were reports coming out about them count you know, button

674
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: heads and practice and such, and that was you know,

675
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: we were observing that in real time, you know, in

676
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, And that was like the first

677
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: time that I can, you know, say that I really

678
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: do recall that. So yeah, that was a great point

679
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: that I hadn't really considered that Marcus touched on.

680
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: So we go to the Tim Duncan Spurs. I was

681
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: hoping that he would fight. Like when we first started

682
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: the book club for the podcast, the whole thing was

683
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: we were reading books that we did not read in

684
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: high school, right and like seeing if we appreciated it

685
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: more like we read said Artha or whatever. I was

686
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: hoping this would be like that because I fucking hated

687
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: the Spurs the whole time, and I was hoping I

688
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: would read this and be like, like get some sort

689
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: of new found appreciation, and I just hate him. I

690
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: just hate him the same amount.

691
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: Like so you never you know, like I was a

692
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: person who the Spurs used to bore me to death.

693
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: But I'll say, towards the end of their dynasty, like

694
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: the two thousand and tents, I grew a really you know,

695
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: deep appreciation for the style of basketball they played. You

696
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that's the case for you.

697
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the twenty fourteen championship because I I've always

698
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: been a Genobi fan, you know, because I thought he

699
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: I didn't realize he was Italian through Argentine. I just

700
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: thought he was Italian. And so that's ingrained in me

701
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: from my grandpa. Someone's last name ends in a vow,

702
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: we root for them. So I enjoyed that one. But no,

703
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think it's difficult. And even if

704
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: trace this through Marcus's book, He's talking about the development

705
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: of the league into an entertainment vehicle, and then it

706
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: just you reach this chapter and it just sort of

707
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: comes to a screeching halt with him Duncan, right, he

708
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: just was like not doing it. It's the social media era.

709
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: It's the we just were talking about Shaq and Kobe

710
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: and He's like, I'm just not doing it. I'm not

711
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: interested in any of it. I just want to play basketball.

712
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make funny jokes with my teammates and my coach,

713
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: but never anywhere else, you know. And I just like,

714
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: as great as he was, as much of an appreciation

715
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: as I know I'm supposed to have, I'm supposed to

716
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: have think that the Scarlet Letter is a great fucking

717
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: book or whatever, I just like, I just don't it

718
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: Just personally, I don't have a heart for it, you

719
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I and I this didn't

720
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: change it, honestly.

721
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

722
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I, like I said, I've I've I

723
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 1: grew to appreciate this the Spurs towards the end of

724
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: their run, you know what I mean. So I thought

725
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: this was a good you know, retrospect on it. And

726
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, Marcus the point that the Spurs internationalized the league. Yeah,

727
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: when he talked about how they you know that they

728
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: were going and scouting out in euroleagues. You know, of course,

729
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: Tony Parker, Choblee fucking bores dil you know, fucking Thiago Splitter,

730
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: Like that is the dumb print that they've left on

731
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: the league is that it's an international league. Now, you

732
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: can you can trace a lot of that back to

733
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: the Spurs.

734
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: Well, and he said, you know, it's like Duncan technically

735
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: grew up as an American citizen, but the Virgin I

736
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: I mean, like, yeah, I mean when Pop went to

737
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: go talk to him, he just would like walk outside

738
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: of his house and go swim in the ocean for

739
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: two hours a day or something like that. Dude is

740
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: not an American in that way, you know what I mean.

741
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: Like he's as much an international player as everyone else,

742
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: even if technically he was an American citizen.

743
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: In my opinion, so.

744
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like he started playing basketball when a hurricane

745
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: fucked up the swimming pool he used to go to, right,

746
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: that was the only reason he picked up a basketball.

747
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: Picked up a basketball because you get five rings just

748
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: because a hurricane fucked up swimming Like this seven motherfucker

749
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: was out there backstroking his shit, you know what I mean,

750
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: And then a hurricane fucked off up.

751
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: So that's crazy.

752
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: I did like the story that he told about when

753
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan was given eating Thomas in game advice on

754
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: how to play against so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

755
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: for sure.

756
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

757
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: He was literally telling him, no, no, no, you got to

758
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: get a little bit more into my body so you

759
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: can ate space.

760
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I guess I'll read that for the listeners

761
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: here he gave them some context. Okay, the story goes

762
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: that eaton Thomas playing for the Wizards, posted up Duncan

763
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: with his back to the basket. He pivoted toward the

764
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: middle of the lane to go for the reliable jump hook,

765
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: but Duncan, with his seven foot three wings span, blocked

766
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: the shot by Thomas. They both ran to the other

767
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: end of the court after the charge, after the change

768
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: of possession, that was when Duncan started talking to Thomas.

769
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: That was a good move, Thomas, remember, remembers Duncan saying,

770
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: but you have to get more to my body so

771
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: you can either draw the foul or I can't block it. Thomas,

772
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: a Tulsa, Oklahoma native, was a six to nine power

773
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: forward who was strong and physical enough to play some center.

774
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: He was a two time Big East Defensive Player of

775
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: the Year at Syracuse before being drafted number twelve overall

776
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: in the two thousand NBA draft. He was by no

777
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: means on the level of Tim Duncan, but Thomas was

778
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: no slouch. That was why Duncan's mid game coaching was surprising.

779
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: He thought Duncan might have been taunting him with condescension,

780
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: but Duncan was a superstar and trash talk wasn't really

781
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: Thomas's style, So the Wizards big man just said okay.

782
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: But the next time he had Duncan in the post,

783
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: he heeded the advice. He pivoted toward the middle again,

784
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: but he leaned his shoulder in at Duncan's chest. The

785
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: blowgrounded Duncan long enough for Thomas to get off his skyhook.

786
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: This time Duncan couldn't block it. Thomas missed, but he

787
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: wasn't swatted again, so that was a victory. Duncan choined

788
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: in again, much better, he said, than he continued playing.

789
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Thomas was so caught off guard that even after the

790
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: game he had to tell someone. He called his buddy

791
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: Z Chilton to tell him about one of the most

792
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: unique conversations he's had on the basketball court. He realized

793
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: Duncan wasn't being sarcastic or condescending, but helpful to a

794
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: big man. Trying to make his way in the league.

795
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan is honestly one of the nicest guys in

796
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: the NBA, Thomas Rode in the Facebook post revealing the encounter,

797
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: and one of the best power forwards ever respect So, yeah,

798
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: that's just the type of guy Timmy.

799
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: Was, man and as a person, that's that's how I

800
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: relate to people like that and everything. It is also

801
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: funny that he told that story on a Facebook post

802
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: as we were just talking about the evolution of things.

803
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: Now you would have told it on his own podcasts, right,

804
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: you know? For that shit, I do think and I'll

805
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: end my thoughts on this chapter on this, you know,

806
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: Marcus is I don't know that I agreed with Marcus's

807
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: thesis for the book that dynasties are the most hated

808
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: thing and that hatred is what's fueled the NBA, right

809
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: just because to me, basketball is the most joyful sport

810
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: compared to football, where you're sometimes these teams are literally

811
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: trying to kill each other. It seems like, right, basketball

812
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: has been such a joyful sport in my experiences around

813
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: it that I didn't know if I fully agreed with

814
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: his thesis until I read the quote from Kobe at

815
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: the end of the Spurs chapter which unlocked for me

816
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: why I just cannot get to a place of appreciating them.

817
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Kobe says, the talent, the coaching, everything in San Antonio

818
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: was kind of a perfect storm. If they weren't in

819
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: the picture, we probably would have run ten championships in

820
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: a row. And that is why I hated the Spurs,

821
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: and that's why I still hate the Spurs. And so

822
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: Marcus is right, you know.

823
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you have it, There you have it.

824
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: Yep, for sure. Okay, So the next the last three chapters,

825
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: which we'll read maybe for the next podcast, maybe for Thursday.

826
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 2: I guess we'll figure that out. We're obviously still kind

827
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: of trying to figure out what we're going to do

828
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: for the next episode or two a little bit. But

829
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: the next chapters, the last three chapters are the King Dynasty,

830
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: which is just Lebron and all of his incarnations, the

831
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: Steph Curry Warriors, and then the Near Dynasties, which I'm

832
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: definitely interested to talk about as well. So we're going

833
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: to finish the book for you. Just go ahead and

834
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: read it, you know, I mean.

835
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: Shit, just and then I just beat the Mother fucking book.

836
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: Just finish the book, bro, it's like another quarter. I

837
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: like that we're doing this book though, because I've heard

838
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: from people who are like, uh, I'm I have not

839
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: read the book yet, but I'm just enjoying listening to

840
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: you guys talk about these teams, you know, because it's

841
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: like it's pretty easy, like you know what we're talking about.

842
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: We're talking about Lebron.

843
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: We do that anyway, right, exactly exactly, A nice a

844
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: nice you know, lighter change of pace from the heavy

845
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: ship that we've been you know, discussing.

846
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a little later, Yeah, it's a little

847
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: bit later. Yeah, just since John's not here. John wanted

848
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: us to read Beloved, Belove It, Bro, and you and

849
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: I were both love it that book. I needed therapy

850
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: from that book, bro is.

851
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a great piece of work. But

852
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: that ship is a horror book. Bro, It's so heavy

853
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: shit going on in that book.

854
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: Man, It's fucking heavy. That was heavy. Yeah for sure.

855
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: All right, Well, all of our love obviously with John

856
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: and Rada, who are currently bringing oh yeah, our baby

857
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: niece into the world. We're gonna end the podcast and

858
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: just sit by our phones. Waiting for text.

859
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: Messages about to bug the fuck out of John when

860
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: I get off this ship.

861
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: Where we at dog, what we're looking like?

862
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: Yep, same here. So we'll see you guys next week.

863
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for working with us, Bye bye bye.

864
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: I did John spy for him. You're always here in spirit,

865
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: John Boy.