WEBVTT - Memorial Day

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<v Speaker 1>Ugh he he he laughing. If you watch Coffee Time

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<v Speaker 1>to Baby, you know the name Flame, my role also

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<v Speaker 1>known as my role Flame. Come in with last and

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<v Speaker 1>come in with JN love lounds. Baby, you better catch

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<v Speaker 1>it when you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics,

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<v Speaker 1>shouting now comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you know she raped shot towns on speaking to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>And second we're gonna last cut of the kicking and

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<v Speaker 1>at the end we leave it, which is a lift

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<v Speaker 1>dispirit you think you want to revisit, So your first

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<v Speaker 1>like a list of your folks like you slip all

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<v Speaker 1>folks that we take it to cain't no kiss do

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<v Speaker 1>what you don't no kiss do what you do. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>no kiss do what I do? No fish Flame. We

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to laugh and learn, laughing learn with Flame and

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<v Speaker 1>Louren and Nick and y'all and kindle and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's a very different look for y'all today. Ain't

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<v Speaker 1>no makeup today, It's Memorial Day. Flame is looking a

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<v Speaker 1>little love lounge for laugh and learn to In about

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<v Speaker 1>forty minutes, I'll be feeling very level lounges because I've

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<v Speaker 1>already finished cooking and happy memorial data all the veterans

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<v Speaker 1>out there who have served this country, especially the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that I have been unknown, that we never knew about.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not even talking about just in our life time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about like even back when the Civil War started,

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<v Speaker 1>because they put a lot of black men, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of on the forefront to take them bullets and take

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<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, a lot of us that unnecessarily because they're

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<v Speaker 1>scary asses. Did I say that right? They're scary ass?

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, welcome to laugh and learn. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 1>Flaming Row. I learned with my co host Lauren Hogan

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<v Speaker 1>right here, and Smith is on here somewhere. Nick smiths

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<v Speaker 1>on here. And if y'all saying flame while you got

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<v Speaker 1>dressed up, yeah, not to that. And my daddy was

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<v Speaker 1>a vet. He was in the Navy. He's also passed on.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and in commemoration of all of the veterans

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<v Speaker 1>that if we have lost, no week, no makeup, this

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<v Speaker 1>is it. I wish you would have given me that memo.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have come up here looking a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, there's your hair and you ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>a little powder, So I'm not at all did afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Memorial Day, Nick. You are a vet, I'm a vet,

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<v Speaker 1>and and today is the day that wee, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>honor those who pay the ultimate sacrifice and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>gave their lives and services this country. Um, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been somber. You know, you know the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but let me so, let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going today, because the world is somber. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been such a horrific week in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to do politics. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about all the bad stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 1>We will long, we'll bring up one or but this

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<v Speaker 1>is a hodgepod. We're gonna bring on some play masks

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<v Speaker 1>and we're talking ship today. I'm telling you all right now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's make Memorial Day like the family cookout because I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't even take any or your negative comments,

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<v Speaker 1>all the hate. Everybody's enraged, people on the planes fighting, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We like on a powder cake waiting to explode. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's laugh and learn. Let us let us do what

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<v Speaker 1>our name says. Let's teach yourself something fun or funny,

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<v Speaker 1>a memorable story, and let's just laugh. Because child, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so frustrated that couldn't even put the makeup on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been a crazy week for me. I literally

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<v Speaker 1>called Lauren about an hour ago. I'm like, Lauren, where

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<v Speaker 1>are you? She's like, where are you? What you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, Lauring, I'm sorry, I'm just I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing well this week. And I told you that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, It's okay, Nick. We all have those weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just been Yes, just one, I'm here waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, getting ready. That's all. But yeah, I will

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<v Speaker 1>say that's a little fun thing because earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say Friday, I heard someone very funny on

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<v Speaker 1>the Karen Hunter Show who since we didn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to hear it, think of me being a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job, Flame, Flame, Do you have any more information

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<v Speaker 1>about what we might be able to hear that whole episode?

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<v Speaker 1>For those who missed it, Karen Hunter on her show

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<v Speaker 1>on Serious Radio Channel one six, and I'm doing Foolish

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<v Speaker 1>Fridays with her again on this Friday, so it might

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<v Speaker 1>be well. I don't know if I'm proving myself or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm if I'm an auditioning stage, but they seem to

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<v Speaker 1>love me because you know we're trying to get laugh

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<v Speaker 1>on it. There is an arterior motive. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get love that I was picked up on series Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Understand there is an arterior motive because there's always a

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<v Speaker 1>method to my madness, isn't it? Lauren, Well, you did

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<v Speaker 1>a great job. Thank you Nick. Thank you Nick. Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>have to listen to Karen Hunter on Fridays Series Radio

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<v Speaker 1>Foolish Friday. We have a great time. We cover a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of subjects. I do might ask hesh we because

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know I'm gonna love guru. I've been since I've

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<v Speaker 1>been the husband and the wife, sometimes in the same night,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on who turned it was, how much money was

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<v Speaker 1>involved and what they're in the week. I never bottomed

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday because tusday was talk on the read or

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<v Speaker 1>night and you don't want to bottom at the takover reader.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just say anyway, and that is great. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my show with Tisha k who will be our

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<v Speaker 1>very in Who will be our in student Studio Special

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<v Speaker 1>Guests on the fourteenth of this month, came out on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>right and it's doing pretty good. Tisha Kay has Tasha

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<v Speaker 1>Ka surprised everybody with this interview because everybody so used

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<v Speaker 1>to being messy and going throwing dirt and slinging. She

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<v Speaker 1>shows you that there's another side. That's growth. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you all right now, nobody stays the same because if

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<v Speaker 1>you stay the same, you stay in the same place.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta do something different in order to grow. What

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<v Speaker 1>is that quote I've gotten on my one of my

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram pages from Coco Chanelle. She says, in order to

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<v Speaker 1>be different, you must be in order to be Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you must be daring or something. What I got it wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>But y'all know, just google this ship. I don't know. Um. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're gonna have a show filled with laughter

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to keep it light, but we do

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<v Speaker 1>have to discuss one heavy topic to start. Um, it

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<v Speaker 1>has been a hundred years since the Tulsa massacre or

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<v Speaker 1>race mass crut should say, and um Greenwood, So we

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<v Speaker 1>just want to talk about that briefly. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge some things around it and then we can get

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<v Speaker 1>to the laughter. But we'd be remiss if we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>start to show off by acknowledging this so well before

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<v Speaker 1>you started giving us a tangibles. Nicholas. I want Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>Roight emotional on this because when Lauren was telling me

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<v Speaker 1>about this on her draft here this morning, Lauren was

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<v Speaker 1>charged up about you were you were well, you were

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<v Speaker 1>you were ready to hit stop I was. I watched,

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<v Speaker 1>Um there was a documentary actually on the History Channel

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<v Speaker 1>that premiered yesterday, and I watched it and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just really angry, you know, and um it was a

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<v Speaker 1>two hour documentary. It was really heavy, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>what probably made it even worse is that they tied

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of what was happening around Black Lives

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<v Speaker 1>Matter and George Floyd and Brianna Taylor and just um

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different just police involved shooting, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just it was very upsetting. So what I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying to Flame was that I know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>been so many talks about reparations and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the government it's kind of taking the stance of, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really know how to provide reparations for slavery

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<v Speaker 1>because we can't really you know, track who's descendant of

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<v Speaker 1>who and those sort of things. But in the situation

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<v Speaker 1>of Tulsa, there, you guys can very easily track who

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<v Speaker 1>deserves reparations in this instance, UM, and there's just never

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<v Speaker 1>been just has been brought for those UM family members

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<v Speaker 1>that lost their lives a hundred years ago. Tell them

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<v Speaker 1>what triggered the whole incident because that was so interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because I never knew that. Oh okay, so what triggered

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<v Speaker 1>the incident? Based on what I was watching last night, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a man by the name of Jake Rowland.

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<v Speaker 1>He worked at UM this all white shoeshine parlor. The

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<v Speaker 1>white owner of the parlor had about four black employees. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when it was time for them to use the restroom,

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<v Speaker 1>they were never allowed to use the facilities that were

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<v Speaker 1>in the shoeshine parlor. So what he did was he,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, set up this negotiation where his UM black

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<v Speaker 1>employees could go to the Drexel Hotel, which was right

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of Greenwood, UM, and they could go

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<v Speaker 1>eitherre to use the facilities because that's where the colored

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<v Speaker 1>toilet was. So UM Jake Roland went to the Drexel Hotel. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>The elevator operator was a white woman, and UM Jake

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<v Speaker 1>got into the elevator and the story goes that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the elevator jerked or something happened when she moved elevator

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<v Speaker 1>and he ended up like stepping on her foot or

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<v Speaker 1>bumping into her accidentally, and of course she's screaming and

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jake being fearful, he ran out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Drexel Hotel and that's literally what started this whole huh. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the catalyst, will say that to this whole massacre.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they arrested him, he was brought downtown to

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<v Speaker 1>the jail, and so, of course, throughout the couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hours after he was arraigned, this white mob of almost

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<v Speaker 1>seven your people assembled because they were telling the police officers,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to go and lynch him. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>assaulted a white woman. Um. There was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>dog whistle terms being used, you know, they were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, assault was a dog whistle term for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>another black man raping a white woman. Um. So, throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the evening, all of these white men

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<v Speaker 1>assembled to basically to have Jake lynched. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, you know, in Greenwood, there was um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get anybody's name wrong, but it was J. B.

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<v Speaker 1>Stratford and A. J. Smitherman. They were kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the leaders of the town and ow Gurley, who was

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<v Speaker 1>actually the architect behind Greenwood. They all basically assembled and

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<v Speaker 1>said we need to go protect him. So lots of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, war veterans in the black community came down

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<v Speaker 1>to protect Jake and that started this whole How dare

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<v Speaker 1>you come down here? And that's literally how the massacre started.

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<v Speaker 1>So it shows you that Karen ain't just started. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>Karen been going on for hundreds of years, Karen even

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<v Speaker 1>just And secondly, uh, why do they loved the holiday

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<v Speaker 1>black men and wape raping white women? You ain't baby,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you understand you ain't got the rape a white woman. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all you got to do is play for professional be

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<v Speaker 1>a professional athlete. You ain't got the ripe ship. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give it to you. And I'm not saying all right,

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<v Speaker 1>white women, So for y'all get on your bandwag and

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<v Speaker 1>get the holland screaming crame who Flames said? Flames said

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<v Speaker 1>what Flames see? I said, You ain't ain't nobody running

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<v Speaker 1>around try to rape nobody white woman because you're white.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a that is such a myth, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have used that to be a power play for such

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, which is why black women get offended

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<v Speaker 1>when they say when they see these black men marrying

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<v Speaker 1>these white women, because they feel like all of that

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<v Speaker 1>is just pushing back the narrative. And when they're saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>your trophy as a white woman, my trophy would be

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<v Speaker 1>a smart woman. I need a backbone. I need somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna hold me up because I'll work. I just

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<v Speaker 1>need a woman that's gonna clean and you know, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure I washed my ass, like at least twice a week,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not on bathe that only bathe on show

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<v Speaker 1>that you're real tall. Today I did not, UM, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the background of it. It's just even

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<v Speaker 1>with that, even with that, I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will freely admit I was not familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>Black Wall Street and any of that until I went

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<v Speaker 1>to college. I never heard that in grade school, high school,

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<v Speaker 1>in life. It was not until I was at the

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<v Speaker 1>University of California, Berkeley with a woman named June Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>who taught women's studies UM, and she was this countercultural

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<v Speaker 1>lesbian who talked about everything you weren't supposed to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about UM, and she uh introduced, Look, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>black Wall Street. What are you talking about black Wall Street?

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<v Speaker 1>Broke never had never heard of it. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is also part of the you've mentioned before in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, the whitewashing of our history and that not

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<v Speaker 1>getting it correct. And I was telling Flame too. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just so many instances of this that we can talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>of just things being covered up. You know, we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Seneca Village, which is now the beautiful Central Park,

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<v Speaker 1>and um even Lake Lanier, which is like the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>tourist attraction in Georgia. You know, that was actually a

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<v Speaker 1>black town called Oscarville that was bulldozed by you know,

0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.840
<v Speaker 1>white folks and then flooded into this beautiful tourist attraction

0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that generates millions of dollars a year. So there's Martha.

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<v Speaker 1>They there's so much that has been until we have

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<v Speaker 1>a true reckoning. And this is where I go back

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<v Speaker 1>to UM. You know, it begins with an apology. It

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<v Speaker 1>begins with apology. We still as a country have not

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledged our history. We have to recognize that we live

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<v Speaker 1>in a country just admit it. We live in a

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<v Speaker 1>country that was built on the backs of slaves, that's all,

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<v Speaker 1>and was stolen from other brown people. We stole the

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<v Speaker 1>land and then you know, we stole this Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really want to build it up myself. Now, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do, y'all? We need to get some

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<v Speaker 1>labor over here. So that's exactly what happened, and all

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do is just talk about it. We

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<v Speaker 1>have had more years in this country. There have been

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<v Speaker 1>more years of this country in existence with slavery being

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<v Speaker 1>a part of it than without. So to act like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not real and not something that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss so that we can at least begin the process

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<v Speaker 1>of healing and recognizing where we go is just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything else is performative. I knew about that, like near

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew. I heard the stories about it that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, supposed to be kind of haunted. Very poetr guys,

0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.440
<v Speaker 1>y'all put these stuff up, all these dead bodies. Um,

0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.800
<v Speaker 1>this house is clean, y'all need a little midge bitch?

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<v Speaker 1>What was her name from the movie Humans? Get the

0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.040
<v Speaker 1>house clean? Get the What was the name? I know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. What was her name this house is Caroline. Caroline.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I told you I'm in a move today.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all go broll with it today. But that is very

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<v Speaker 1>and all collectively, all the black tragedies that we have

0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.080
<v Speaker 1>had don't even if we if you put them all together,

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<v Speaker 1>according to this country, they still don't even measure to

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<v Speaker 1>the Holocaust. And this will be all of us, from

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<v Speaker 1>Rosewood to Lake Lanier, to the village to uh to

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<v Speaker 1>Toss the Oklahoma. According to them, all of ours combined

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<v Speaker 1>won't even line up to just to to the Holocaust.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we're saying. So when we say that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't care about what's happening with other cultures, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what it is. But we're too concerned about what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening with us. I ain't got time to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening over here over there. Help us fix our ship,

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll help you, because as you can see, once

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<v Speaker 1>they're done with us, y'all just nixt up on the

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<v Speaker 1>sad blood because what they want is what they want

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not gonna stop until they get it. They're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it in our face. The GOP is doing in

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<v Speaker 1>our face, and then telling me what I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>with my glasses on off, I can see the bullshit

0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.760
<v Speaker 1>that y'all pulling. That y'all telling me I didn't see Flame,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't. That was just the normal tourist day on

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<v Speaker 1>January six. What are you talking about? It's like any

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<v Speaker 1>other tour of the capital, you know. And that actually

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<v Speaker 1>that he even think his mouth to actually say that

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<v Speaker 1>out loud publicly to us, like we stupid Flame. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the problem is the others who sat there and

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<v Speaker 1>they signed, they co signed on this. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>there were not ten who believed we at least need

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<v Speaker 1>to have a commission to take a look at what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten people don't tim Republicans don't believe that. Not ten

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans believe that it's necessary to examine what happened on

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<v Speaker 1>January six, completely free of bias and completely free of

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<v Speaker 1>political uh political bias. Right, Um, just like we did

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<v Speaker 1>with September eleven, we had to take a look to

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<v Speaker 1>see exactly what we're wrong. There were failures all the

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<v Speaker 1>way around. How do we prevent this from happening again.

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<v Speaker 1>We cannot sit here and say that we know for

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<v Speaker 1>a fact we will not have another siege on the

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<v Speaker 1>capitol the way we did on January six, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that tells me that that could not happen again. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's two that speaks to when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about history, because I think there's a lot of parallels

0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that we can kind of draw in the situation from

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<v Speaker 1>Tulsa to what's happening around this whole January six commission.

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<v Speaker 1>And the instance of Tulsa, you know, they had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of white newspapers that we're putting out these narratives

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, you know, the black people were at fault

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<v Speaker 1>because they came downtown and they started this, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's we don't need to take any responsibility for this

0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. So and I think in this instance

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<v Speaker 1>of the January six um riot that happened, it's another

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<v Speaker 1>of well, we don't really need to take any fault

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<v Speaker 1>behind this, We don't need to investigate this for let's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of move on, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>And and we don't address the traumas that are occurring

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<v Speaker 1>in the country, history just continues to repeat itself, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're seeing again in this instance. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I know, we want to keep it

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<v Speaker 1>light and everything. But um, overall that actress was Zelda Rubinstein.

0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Zelda Rubinstein just like they're out there for you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall, UM, I really just think that, UM, I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to encourage everybody to go and watch

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<v Speaker 1>this documentary about Tulsa and really just get some rich

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<v Speaker 1>his srea about what happened a hundred years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>also to let's just talk about They also made a

0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:09.399
<v Speaker 1>comment about JB. Stratsforuld have the biggest hotel in basically

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.879
<v Speaker 1>the nation at that time, and how you know, we

0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about how, you know, black folks don't have things

0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.439
<v Speaker 1>like generational wealth and we're not giving back to our

0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.119
<v Speaker 1>own communities. But you know, Black Wall Street was the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest example of this, and they were saying how JB.

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<v Speaker 1>Stratsford could have been the next Marriott or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the next Hyatt or whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, overall, there's just there's a lot of wrong

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<v Speaker 1>that's been done to our community and we need some

0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.080
<v Speaker 1>type of reparations. There was that was a show that

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<v Speaker 1>came on last year. We talked about it on here.

0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't think of it was real abstract, but they were.

0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.160
<v Speaker 1>They brought shed light to the whole Tussa thing. They

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<v Speaker 1>had the two little twins. Remember the movie it came up,

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<v Speaker 1>was real crazy with andrelu Ellis and Journey small ay

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<v Speaker 1>um whatever. It was that they revisited a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the black Head that we didn't get taught in school

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<v Speaker 1>because they never taught us in school about the Tulsa.

0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Ris was never taught that in school either. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I started hearing about that, I'm like, where did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I never remember reading or hearing about that when I

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.000
<v Speaker 1>was in school. But when its not a watch man,

0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 1>uh miss j watch not watch the other one like something,

0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that's it country. So anyway, when they did that, when

0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.880
<v Speaker 1>they had their rights, because they relived that, they replayed

0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.360
<v Speaker 1>that acted it out. One guy was like, they got

0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.359
<v Speaker 1>a piano. I don't even have a fucking piano. The

0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 1>jealousy of you worried about what somebody else has has,

0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 1>even though that it was racist. But that's why I

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.280
<v Speaker 1>tell people all the time, baby focused on you. If

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm focused on me, I can't worry about this

0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.520
<v Speaker 1>person get more than me or this person has less

0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.639
<v Speaker 1>than me. I'm focused on me. If everybody focused on

0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the sales, but that was not even that that just

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first time I really started hearing because

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard it before, but I didn't believe it

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<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't in the history books that we were

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<v Speaker 1>taught in school. So I'm like, I never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>that ship. Y'all made that up. They have since implemented

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<v Speaker 1>um this curriculum though about Tulsa into the Oklahoma school district.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will say that they're trying to right some wrongs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not a better way than never situation,

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.719
<v Speaker 1>but they are, you know, trying to implement what actually

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 1>happened in that town. It's a part of their curricula.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we also shout out That's why I think it's

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.879
<v Speaker 1>interesting that Howard University is having this conversation to write.

0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Howard is saying, you know, we need to re examine

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<v Speaker 1>who decides that this is the history we need to

0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 1>teach and these are the classics, and uh, let's let's

0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>reexamine that. Guess what, there were black voices, There were

0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.080
<v Speaker 1>voices that were women. There are women that there were

0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:36.119
<v Speaker 1>women who were counterculture who are strong voices. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>we not examining these? I can make a strong argument

0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that I genuinely believe Nikki Giovanni should be included in

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.119
<v Speaker 1>any of the greats when we're talking about commentary on

0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the political diaspora or where we are as a community

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.760
<v Speaker 1>and as a culture. But I don't know that everyone

0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.919
<v Speaker 1>knows Nikki the way I think they should. Zora Neelie Herston.

0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 1>There's so many black female writers who I feel like

0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.320
<v Speaker 1>we're able to maybe move and talk about things in

0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.439
<v Speaker 1>different areas that others just weren't giving voice to. Right.

0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.359
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so anyway, yeah, I definitely agree. So for

0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:09.879
<v Speaker 1>those of you all who are unfamiliar with Nikki Giovanni,

0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 1>not only is she a great point, but she don't

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<v Speaker 1>man speaking her man. Oh, she's flaming Monroe before even

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 1>flame Monroe was born. That lady plays no games with you,

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.000
<v Speaker 1>A and be. She was the first woman to blow

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<v Speaker 1>the whistle on Bill Cosby and he destroyed her career.

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Payback is a bill, Bill You're now two oh seven days,

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.960
<v Speaker 1>three four six one. That would be another one that

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about you, But another one we can

0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.320
<v Speaker 1>bring to light two is miss Ida by Welles. She

0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.400
<v Speaker 1>was the first one that actually brought lynching to light

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and what was actually happening. She was one of the

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.800
<v Speaker 1>pioneers on the front, though not the lady. But you know,

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.600
<v Speaker 1>we lived in the projects in Chicago, it was called Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>How about so many of us lived in the projects

0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and didn't even know who Ida by Wales was, which

0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.920
<v Speaker 1>is such a problem, it really was. They never even

0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.359
<v Speaker 1>taught that in the schools that we just knew that

0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.240
<v Speaker 1>we lived in Wales projects. They didn't all that I

0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 1>live in the Attab's or either I live in the Whale.

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:05.679
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people never knew who Atta by

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Wales was growing up living in the project's named after

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<v Speaker 1>I Whale. Can we'll go even a little further than

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<v Speaker 1>that that you used to. One would pretend that they

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.400
<v Speaker 1>were from Like I can remember going to clubs early

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.679
<v Speaker 1>on that say I'm from all Gayle Gardens because it

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:22.120
<v Speaker 1>sounded tough, right, And then if somebody asked you too much,

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.679
<v Speaker 1>well what part uh? You're trying to dance their way

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 1>out of it. Because somewhere in there they had also

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.639
<v Speaker 1>convinced us that there was a sentence of bravado that

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<v Speaker 1>came from you know, coming from one of the projects,

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.120
<v Speaker 1>as you know. So I think This is also part

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<v Speaker 1>of the whole whitewashing there. Did I have a project

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>provado when you first met me? Well, you didn't necessarily

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 1>seem soft. Let's just say that, you know security, I've

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:53.439
<v Speaker 1>an attack by the co host. Help me, Jesus. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you're gonna do me. Y'all just gonna let

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 1>throw me about it. I don't even fit up under bus.

0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Goddamn you ever seen that the thing they're trying to

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>roll the weights over to me and his asses baby

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>to roll. We just gonna do that at home. The

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.359
<v Speaker 1>way stopped at the fact they ain't even made it

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 1>to my ass. I'm gonna go ahead and bring in

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>some flamemts. I know that they kind of want to

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>touch on this topic. So, um, let's see this is

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 1>somebody new. Let's see Elaine had not had her, had

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 1>him had them. Let's see if we can get a

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of new folks in today to talk about this

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 1>topic in particular. And then we're gonna make it funny

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>with somebody on here from Tulsa. And they said that

0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 1>they weren't even taught that in school. Yeah I saw

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>that too. They're like they're trying to revamp the curriculum. Now,

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I saw that as a part of the special that

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>was um. But you know what they're doing. They might

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>be teaching that over there, but they're removing black history

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>from a lot of schools. My kids have never learned

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 1>black history in the schools here there. We Oh, I

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't either. Black history was just you celebrated Martin Luther King.

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 1>That was black history. That was when growing up from school.

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.159
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'm so grateful that I went to

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>an historically black college, just because I was able to

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>learn so much new information that I just wasn't aware of.

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Hey Cassie, Hey y'all, how y'all good? How are you?

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I am good? I never learned about Tulsa up here

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>in the Pacific Northwest. I remember telling you guys prior

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 1>on a U Live that I really didn't know anything

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>about even HBCUs until my daughter got accepted. So we're

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 1>really sheltered up here as far as our history unless

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.879
<v Speaker 1>you go out searching for it. So, and I have

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a family member who lived in Tulsa, Oklahoma there there

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>my wife family, but they didn't want to admit that either,

0:24:50.160 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>well I did. They didn't want to You know we're

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.399
<v Speaker 1>not racist, We're not this, We're not that it happened

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 1>in your backyard. And they only started learning about it

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>last year when George Floyd was murdered and they lived

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it down there. So I mean, it's a crazy and

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>terrible topic. And Hi everybody, Hi, Well, I think the

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>other thing too that we can know, Cassie, is that

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>one the what happened in Tulsa was not discussed for

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>seventy five years. Hi, Corey, thank you so much for

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 1>joining no problem. I'll hateful I finally caught you guys.

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Um because I'm always busy. I have a song with

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 1>autism Flame, and I've talked about that um online before,

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 1>but I um um uh. Senior year, a couple of

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>us got together and we protested the year before to

0:25:56.119 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>get black history put in our school's corecu um So.

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm my own, I'm kind of like the only child.

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>My sister and I like eighteen years apart, I did

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of reading on my own, so I taught

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>my son it wasn't taught in school. I didn't. I

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:18.679
<v Speaker 1>heard about Tulsa through the game because he had a

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Black Wall Street tattoo, and at first I was like,

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>what he know? I don't think he really know what

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about. Don't you really know what are you

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about? So I left it alone. And then um

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Watchman came first, and I was like, the game was

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>talking about black wall streets, so maybe he didn't know

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>what he was talking about. And then love Craft Country

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>came and then it really tore into it and I

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>kept searching for stuff and searching for stuff, and I

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>couldn't find it. Um, but if we do our children

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a disservice if we don't go out and teach our

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>own children, because they're not going to teach it in

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>school because they're trying to whitewash everything. I'm also Indigenous,

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>so the government sanctioned genocide that has happened, that is

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>still going on within the indigenous community as well as

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the black and brown community, is still happening, and it's

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:24.479
<v Speaker 1>still doing it. I think that we really, really really

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>need to talk about these things. We have to, because

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>if we don't, it's just gonna keep happening and happening

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and happening. And I'm tired. I have PTSD. I'm tired.

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of seeing another black man gunned down. Dragged

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>all over. My son, like I said, has autism and

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know how to deal with all of this.

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't had bad interactions with the police, but he's

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>starting to hate all of them. My grandfather was a

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>police officer, so it's it's I don't want him to

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>hate all because all cops aren't bad, but it's not

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>enough bookments, as you said the other day, Yeah, thank well,

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you for sharing that story and letting us know

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>that what you said about being indigenous, because Lauren, you

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you have a story about they just found like two

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 1>hundreds something in Canada. Yeah. So there was a story

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that came out about um these like schools that were

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>created for these young um Indigenous children where they were

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>basically sent to this boarding schools what they were trying

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>to call it, but the purpose behind it was to

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>strip them of their heritage and their culture and kind

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>of reassimilate them into society with more of a white

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>perspective and not with what their cultural heritage was. Yeah.

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>So they just found two hundred and fifteen kids that

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>were basically murdered in Canada, and Canada is trying to

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.959
<v Speaker 1>kind of cover up what happened around these different schools

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.719
<v Speaker 1>and the Kuda Gras is that the last school closed.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>So this is very recent. It's not something that's like

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>happened years ago. This is recent tragedy that's happening in

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the indigenous community, you know. And even taking it back

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to Tulsa, they talked about the trail of tears and

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>how all of these Indigenous folks were, you know, forcibly

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>moved out of their homes under their communities. So, you know,

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>as black folks, we talk about, you know, we need reparations,

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>but Indigenous folks have been brutally traumatized for so long

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>in this country. My family didn't do the trail of tears,

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and I can't be federally recognized and I am part

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>of the last generation of um you would say, have

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>enough percentage of Indigenous blood according to what white people say.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Cassie, No, I just wanted to say you

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.479
<v Speaker 1>were gonna say something earlier about that. We only been

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about Tulsa for about seventy five years. But I

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go back to what Nick said. I agree,

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>we need an apology, acknowledge, and then let's move forward.

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm so happy that we're searching, and we're

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>looking for the information. And yeah, they're trying to whitewash

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>everything and they're trying to erase history. But if we

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>don't learn about our history and really understand it, we're

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna repeat it. We don't want to repeat it, so

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>we have to continue to educate. So let me tell

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>you how this country works. If we get an apology,

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>an acknowledgement, that's what I'm saying. I don't want to know.

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want the apology. I want the acknowledgement because

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to get the apology and the acknowledgement.

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>If you do get both of them, you won't get

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>any money. That is this country well, And I think

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that's part of it too, though, is that they're

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the mayor in Tulsa is saying, oh, we need to

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>do an investigation to see if all of these you know,

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>mass graves were actually a thing. So they did this

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>excavation in Okan Cemetery, they found all these bodies. But

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>now the mayor is like, well, we need to examine

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>these bodies to see if there was actual trauma to

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>them to verify this story. So there's like it's like

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you're constantly moving, you know, the goal line, if we

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>want to call it in that sense. That so you

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>first you said you had to find the bodies, Well

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>now you have to decide if the body goddamn granddad

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>at your granddaddy. You ain't got to dig at your granddaddy.

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>How many bodies do he responsible for? That's all you

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>gotta do. It's frustrating. It's not that hard to find

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>out who came from enslaved people. People ancestors were enslaved.

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>The slave um with the grid, I forget what it's called.

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>You can find it if you know, you can ask

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>for what you're trying to say. Cassie, you know the

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>list that they used to keep not it was before

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the census, before we had names. It was just Negro girls. Five.

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, each one of us carry a last name

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that comes from people who owned enslaved African and so

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>not each one of us I'm talking about. But it's

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>not that hard to find out who whose ancestors were enslaved.

0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>They just don't want to do the work and they

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>don't want to give no money. Do me a favorite

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>track man down because I just want to know. I

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>know I was a difficult bitch. When I was a slap.

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I know I talked ship, I got my ass, but

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I was still in corn bread all the time. I

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>don't even know was still in corn bread because I

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't gonna be hungry. First of all, you gonna put

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>me in the hot ass field all day, no acogy,

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go. I what if I gotta go pee?

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I gotta ask if I gotta go pee. That's why

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>black people and on time now, because we couldn't wear watches,

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>because we had no sense of time. When they told

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>us to start, we started. When they told us to stop,

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>we stopped. Said nobody told me to stop. So that's

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>why I know what time it is that when they

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>saidin't be here nine o'clock, I'll be like, when what

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>time is that? Because they nobody. I think that's a

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>valid I really believe when you say that, because we

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of black folks. I tell I'm very timely person,

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and I gotta I gotta I guess I gotta attribute

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that to my mama. But I maybe when you say that,

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I really do you say, see people, I believe that,

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna down for you. It's so much generational trauma.

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>That we have. And I get it from both sides

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>because I have that the colonization trauma, and then I

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>have the slavery trauma. And then my poor granddad he

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>was in between because he half white. So it's just

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>like it's just like it's it's it's crazy. My son

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>gets upset when I try to make him watch things

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>because I can't. I can't. I don't like it. I

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 1>have that issue. I was explaining to Isaiah. I was

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>explained to my fourteen year old just the other day.

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about we were watching something and so

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about slavery and everything, and I was

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>telling how wretched, you know, things were, and I was

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'll explained to my children that we the underground

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Railroad would not have worked without good white people helping

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>us because we couldn't We could not be seen on

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the horse, we could not carry a weapon. You couldn't

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>even look at white persons at a without being or

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>hurt or made. So I was explaining to her about

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the Blessed Station of under Age. We were watching Harriet,

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and so I was telling her the story because I

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>read so many she she was watching with me. But

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't tell the darker side. You know, it

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>was telling the determination of Harry. But I was telling

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>her if they would have gotten caught, they were cutting

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the man's penises off and they were doing wretched things.

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>So I was telling her that when they wanted slaves

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to procreate sometimes and they weren't, further, they will. I

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>read stories where they will put bags over the people here.

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>So say Cassie is a thirty yeld woman, she has

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>an eighteen year old son. They will put them in

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the room together other people with bags on their head

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and make people have sex with each other. So you

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>could actually be having sex with your mother or father,

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>or brother or sister to procreate. The stories about slavery,

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>if you really dig deep, will make you your heart

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>just bleed. Like so, you know, what we don't know

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>is what we hear because none of us were there.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>So when you hear those stories, you'd like it sounds unimaginable.

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>But what kind of people are this cruel to do

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:13.200
<v Speaker 1>such inhumane things to another human being? And the GP

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>right now and then say it never happened, Bingo, it happens.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, but I have threas my

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>ancestors visit me and my dreams, stuff happening. Oh man,

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>don't visit me because they have you asked me for

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>money and ship I leave me alone. I ain't gonna

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>How are you hey? I saw you the other day

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was looking just like this. So share us,

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 1>share with us some of your thoughts on what we've

0:35:54.800 --> 0:36:00.080
<v Speaker 1>been discussing so far. Well as a descendant of the

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>riots that happened in Forsyth County or come in Georgia, UM,

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>and I had a flashback of what Flame would say, Oh,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>y'all ain't really y'all related the song. So I got

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 1>that a lot, especially when I was in the ninth

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>grade of Wentford came down with her show and I

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I'm a descendent of these are the

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>visuals um with that incident, it caused a lot of

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 1>infighting within our family about the families about the land

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that we settled on in Buford, that's in Genet next door.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>So most of the people with the riots, those riots

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>happened everywhere in the United States that had a large

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>population of black people, that had a lot of population

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>of the natives to the U S. So UM with

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the one that happened in forsythe county or present day

0:36:55.800 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 1>come in Georgia. Um, most of the inhabitants that that

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I descend from, they seek refuge in Hall County, they

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>seek refuge and uh in Gwynette County. So that's where

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>my family on my on the paternal side, where they

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>seek refuge. And they were able to uh regroup by

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 1>land and uh we have a street or road in

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>uh go for Georgia, that's Robert's Drive that's named after

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>the family. But of course what the gentrification that's going

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>on off there that's in threat also so UM growing

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>up and it's said that we are black as black people,

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:45.240
<v Speaker 1>we don't believe the wealth that we come from the

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>royalty that we come from. Um, that's the first thing

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that we would do is uh marcas And it was

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>like no. And that's what I went through in the

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>ninth grade when Oprah Renthy came down and they had

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>hold that Williams leading to Mark just up in for

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a sight. But they never uh uh seek to give

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>us reparations or give our people reparation reparations. But they

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>did cause a lot of family splits within the black

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>communities or the people who descend from the individuals who

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 1>were displaced, who were killed as a result of the

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>riots that went on in uh Comings, Georgia or Foresight County. So, Hannah,

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>let me interject here, because what I think you're talking

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>about is what we briefly touched on around Lake Lanear, correct, right,

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>So you have Shannon's Hill. Most of my relatives, I

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 1>think they descend from Shannon's Hill. So she listening understandings,

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but um, that's what's unfortunate is that we

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know our history, and the matter of fact, that

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 1>we don't respect the oral history that's actually more um

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>credible than what's written out there, that's in ritten or

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that's in print right now out So, of course, with

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>all these riots that happen all in the all over

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the country, I will say that pertains to our people

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and their own their land ownership. One of the most

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.760
<v Speaker 1>important things that that that they would do was burned

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 1>down the court I'm sorry, it's a plane flout of

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, we can still hear you. Keep going. What

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>are the main things they would do? Would the main

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>thing they would do will burn down the courthouse. The

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>courthouse contained the records. So when you're trying to find

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>out who owns what. And it's that another um. You

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 1>couldn't you couldn't stick your claim because they burned down

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the records. And then that's when they will come in

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and confiscate the land, even though that is Um Parker's land.

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>But now Mr Johnson, he took the land because you

0:39:55.920 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>can't prove even though you actually have the paper, your commentation,

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the document, original documentation that's in the courthouse was burned down,

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:12.320
<v Speaker 1>so with um. And that's what's unfortunate that happened everywhere

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you had rosewood. That happened on both sides of my

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:20.919
<v Speaker 1>paternal side, on his his maternal and paternal one side

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of the family was driven south and the other side

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>of the family was driven from North Florida, South Georgia

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:33.439
<v Speaker 1>up to North Georgia. So once you know history, it's

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>up to us to believe us what we cite the

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>order history, what happened or what happened to our people.

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Too many of us don't have older people in our

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>families that we sit down and listen to those stories.

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Because big Mama, Big Mama is now thirty eight years old.

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Big Mama ain't never been less than sixty eight, Big

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Mama is now about thirty eight, thirty thirty four, Big

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Mama still hanging out with the young kids. We don't,

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>we don't, we have no book. We're gonna say about that. Well,

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, Wait a minute, Hannah, we have not

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 1>been taught to respect the elders the way that we

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>were taught. We were taught in my generation to respect

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the elders. Listen to the elders. Take some past, some

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 1>patience with this young generation that feels so unentitled. Now

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:21.919
<v Speaker 1>what generation is that, z x LGBT, I don't know. Ship. Yeah,

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that this new generation, they feel entitled. They feel like

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>they everything should be handed to them. They because they

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like they worked for it when they didn't. We

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.879
<v Speaker 1>did all the work for them, and older people, even

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>older than me, don't even get acknowledged for that. I'm sorry,

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I just had to get that point out. Come on

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 1>hand and tell me what you were saying, baby, But

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I would say with that, if you do the research.

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, another plane is going. We can hear you

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>hand were sing. Okay, I'm sorry, okay, so um. But

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, if you do the research. A hundred

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>years ago, majority of the mothers. We're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>years old. They were married to an older man. So

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>when people say that, it's like, okay. The only difference

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.839
<v Speaker 1>is we don't have the the marriage aspect of it.

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of our big mamas and big mamas

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and great grandmama's and things like that, they were young.

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Now in my case, not my girl, not my grandmother.

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Um but um, if she would have lived, she would

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>be in a hundreds right now. But if you do

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>the research, many of our great grandmothers and grandmothers were young.

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.720
<v Speaker 1>They were under eighteen years old. The aspect that's missing

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>in the present day. Let me finished. The aspect that's

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>missing today is that they're not married or attached to

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a significant other. But I get what you're saying with

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the whore or history, And I was fortunate. That was

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the conversations that I had. Two conversations that

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I had yesterday, one was at the graduation party, is

0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>that we believe that our school systems are bad. I

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.760
<v Speaker 1>was fortunate that I went to a priority Black school,

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:06.399
<v Speaker 1>but a Primariti Black high school where the educators thought

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>it was important for us to learn black history. And

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>then with that, um, My school system that I I

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>matriculated from was on the fining stand. It was one

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>of the bad school districts. When it was, it put

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 1>out a lot of high functioning individuals. Now, uh I was.

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the year we had black history um in

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>our schools was. I think they started it when I

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>was in the left grade and I was. I was

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>fortunate in ninety one to have black black history, but

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I was taught black history from my parents. I was

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>taught black history as a young child from the educators.

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>That's why I always I'm a big component that we

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>need to have our own well, I think, but I

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>think Canada's why I would I even want to say this.

0:43:57.680 --> 0:43:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I think that in a lot of ways we've talked

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to out how we have to, you know, are it's

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>unfortunate that our parents have kind of taken on the

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>burden of the responsibility of teaching us black history. Because

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>while you say that you were able to get you know,

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 1>black education in your school, I wasn't able to. You know.

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Flame has said that she wasn't able to casting in

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the other flamets and in regards to in terms of

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the grie ELTs and stuff that we have.

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I totally hear your point. I think in a way,

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you and flame Er kind of saying two different things.

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I think in a way, flame is kind of saying

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>that nowadays the we don't respect our elders as much.

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I would disagree because I have a great grandmother that's

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>a hundred and one years old. But I'm saying not

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>all of us. But I think I was raised right,

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you know. So, but I'm just saying I think you

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and Flamer kind of saying something different in terms of, yes,

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, we had young people that were marrying older,

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 1>but they were still living longer and still had that

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 1>respect for whoever their offspring were of what's happening. So

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 1>we totally hear what you're saying. And as always, you know,

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you for coming on and just you know,

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>sharing your knowledge, especially on Lake Laner, you know, and

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean to be a descendant of that and to

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of speak on that. It's it's really important that

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're we share where we come from. So absolutely,

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Hannah. Can we limited to a three minute version? Please?

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>We needed three minutes? Please? Three minutes? Hello? Hi, Hi,

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>So so you know listen, um, Yes, I'm with the

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>black the Black history, um, the Black Wall Street ladies

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen. Again, I didn't learn about Black Wall Street

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>until I went to an hbc U right. Um. Then again,

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at the munary reason studying myself, and

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that really caught my attention, like

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people say, oh, well, let's let's rebuild

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Black Wall Street. Well, what they've done specifically in your

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>local communities, they have made it so where you can't,

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>we can't really rebuild and get that property to rebuild

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that Black Wall Street because how they designed the properties

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>right and if you notice how in the black neighborhoods

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>they ensure that they put us in the middle of

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the city. So therefore they can have highways running through

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>so just in case if they have to put down

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a movement, or just in case they want to shift

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>this out, they can. So do understand this has been

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>centuries in centuries in centuries of of of strategy that

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>they've done to ensure that Black Wall Street don't happen again,

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>right and so and so here we are. You know,

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 1>there are some schools I know next year I'll be

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 1>teaching African American studies and law in law studies right,

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and so a lot of schools don't have that. Uh.

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I know here in Florida, they're talking about the critical

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:40.399
<v Speaker 1>race theory to go away, and they want to get

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>away with talking about African American uh history because they

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>say it's not important to discuss. However, it is important

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to discuss and it is a part of history and

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 1>it should be a part of the said curriculum. But

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I do I, I do believe that it should be discussed.

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Our history should be discussed because it is a main

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>corridor of the of the of the American history. And

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I always say this, Until white people, you know, realize

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 1>that racism and white supremacy is their issue instead of

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>a Black issue that they need to empathize with, then

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:17.399
<v Speaker 1>this country can start making some changes and turning some corners. Um.

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>But I also when I go down and think about

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.720
<v Speaker 1>just the black family, listen, we have to do better

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>with our children. We have to start educating our children. Uh.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>We have to start and they know who they are,

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 1>because if we keep relying on the system to tell

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>them who they are, then they won't know. So I

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 1>do believe that we as as young black parents. Uh,

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>from what I've seen, because I teach you how to

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 1>predominantly black school, you know, you have the children partying

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>with the moms. You know, you know that's not how

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be. Don't start talking about people's parenting

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>skills on this show. Don't do that now. Oh no, no, no, no,

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:54.240
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no, no, no, I'm not you know. I'm

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 1>just saying, at the end of the day, we we

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>have to do we have to do better with educating,

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.760
<v Speaker 1>educating our our children about the history and the importance. UM.

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you a question. If you what if

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>you win city council, You're still gonna be a teacher.

0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I am going to try, although I may i uh,

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>due to the schedule that we have, UM, I can't.

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But due to the schedule, it's a

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 1>very stringuous schedule. UM. But I don't have to definitely

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>balance myself. But again, I won't know till I get there.

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>But I would love, I would love, love love to

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 1>continue teaching. I may go into the being a professor

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>because that's what they're pushing me towarwards. Um. And because

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I have my durs doctorate, that is what they're really

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>pushing me towards because at the end of the day,

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a more flexible schedule. But I'm telling you I

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 1>love nurturing the young minds. Um. I teach high school,

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:50.360
<v Speaker 1>so I love nurturing those minds, um and and enabling

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>them to to see the light. Because if you see

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 1>the light that comes on their face about history and

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 1>about black history, it's it's breathtaking. But again, to answer

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:02.760
<v Speaker 1>your question, Flame, I won't I won't know that until

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I get into office, and more than likely i'll become

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a professor. Girl, you missed the lust conversation we had

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 1>about the light, and see now you're telling them to

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>go see the light. And the old lady in the

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>movie said, don't go to the light, Caroline, don't go

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>stay away for the light, Caroline. No, that's great, Allison.

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 1>And when's your election November two? So what you don't

0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 1>know is that I do Love Lounge it in the

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 1>evenings when I feel it. But every Thursday, for the

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>month of June, every Thursdays, Love Lounge is dedicated to

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Allison's campaign. So when you come on on Thursday nights,

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put Allison's campaign her thing up for her campaign.

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.440
<v Speaker 1>This is not her personal cashop. This is for her campaign.

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 1>She's running for city council in Lakeland, Florida, and money helps.

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you money else. So every Thursday for the

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>month of June, that's what we're doing. So y'all, cheap asses,

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 1>come on over to Thursday nights on right here on

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Instagram so we can donate to Allison's because guess what,

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and she sent you a car with an ed pit. Girl,

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you looked a little fatter on that picture than you are.

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>That what diet you've been on because you look skin

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, listen, listen, I I've been doing some exercise.

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing some exercise. You know, listen, you are

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 1>need to so I I you know, I need friend. Yeah,

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:22.720
<v Speaker 1>so so I. So I am just slimming down because

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I keep mindful ladies and gentlemen that our health is

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of importance. And so I definitely I'm a very serious

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I have diabetes running my family, so I want to

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>ensure that I am around at fifty five living healthy.

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree with what you said about we have

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 1>to start at home with our black children because what um,

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>what Hannah was saying was that they have told. They

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:48.760
<v Speaker 1>tell us what we can't be, we can't do better.

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>And when you grow up here and that as a parent,

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you tell that you you ain't gonna be shipped, You

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna never be now, you ain't gonna do nothing

0:50:56.080 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>that sits on your keys spirit, that sits. They say

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>words have power, and I sometimes disagree with that, but

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 1>it depends on who you're saying it too, because when

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:07.799
<v Speaker 1>it's your own kid, they hear that all the time,

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 1>that that sits with them. So they feel like, I

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:11.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have to get better because you already told me

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I will never be nothing. Let me tell you this,

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>let me and I'll and I'll get off. Let me

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you this my mother when I was growing up.

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>When I was growing up, I told my mother I

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a nurse, I wanted to be a

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:27.959
<v Speaker 1>flight I wanted to fly airplanes. Anything that I ever

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>told my mother that I wanted to be, she always said,

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.279
<v Speaker 1>go do it right. And what that did for me

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and now it is you can see it manifest now

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.799
<v Speaker 1>because anything that I want to do, I go do it.

0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 1>So just by my mom telling me, never telling me

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't do it, That's why I go like I

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:49.319
<v Speaker 1>go because she enabled. She told me that I could

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 1>do whatever, and I believe that and now it is

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>manifested to me as an adult. So yes, I concur

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:58.240
<v Speaker 1>with your statement. High Nick Uh concur with your statement. Listen,

0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>tell your children, yeah, go bed, because guarantee they'll just

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 1>do anything I'm telling. They don't listen to me, They

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>talk back and tell me to hell up all that

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. Well, thank you, Allison, thank you,

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Care in Lakeland, Florida. She's running for city council.

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 1>What's happening weighing, We wait on your opinion. Come on

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>with you know everything that Allison said. I'm going back

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to Hannah. I just think there's so much flame. I'm

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 1>having technical difficulties on this end. So I was just

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to reboot that server and all of that. It's

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:32.120
<v Speaker 1>just everybody wants to act up today. So I could hear,

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't see. But you know, you know, we've

0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.920
<v Speaker 1>talked about the power of words from from parents. I

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 1>think that's one of the reasons I have such a

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>an affinity for black women, right I was raised by

0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a black woman, and there's so many black women in

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>my life. That I was always just encouraged and support it,

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you know. UM, So I think that bleeds into everything

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:56.719
<v Speaker 1>that I say and do and and how I kind

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of moved throughout life. And it's not just from the

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:02.319
<v Speaker 1>one because times the dad, especially when you're a daddy's girl,

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.720
<v Speaker 1>the dad has a huge bearing over his daughter's life

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 1>with the things that he said. You know that I

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>am a daddy's girl. Definitely, dad says someone you was

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a living and hurt your feelings. It will still hurt

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:17.839
<v Speaker 1>your feelings to this day if you had never talked

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:20.839
<v Speaker 1>about him to him, if he did, I'm not I'm

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 1>just saying's girl, And I think I will say this too.

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that um, we have seen UM that there

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 1>can be a different sometimes and young women who have

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 1>a really strong relationship with their fathers and those those

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>who do not not. I want to be careful here

0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:44.920
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not trying to generalize or or categorize, but UM,

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:47.480
<v Speaker 1>they tend to the ones I have known. I will

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>use I statements to those that I have known who

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 1>have had a strong relationship with their father tend to

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 1>move differently and and don't tolerate the same level of

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.520
<v Speaker 1>things from UM. Maybe the men that they date and

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:01.920
<v Speaker 1>things like that. I mean, I would agree with that,

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:05.280
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, it's it's interesting because like my best friends,

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>like we're before, out of all four of us, I

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 1>am the only one that actually has a relationship with

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 1>my father. All three of my other best friends have

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>either no relationship or they just don't have a relationship

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 1>with their father. So in a lot of ways, they

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 1>try to say that my dad is like their pseudo dad,

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's a lot of trauma and a lot of

0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:27.879
<v Speaker 1>hurt there. It's it really is, and it's really it's

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:29.959
<v Speaker 1>it's it's really sad to see sometimes, So I would

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I would agree with that, Nick for sure. Yeah, and Flame,

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going back to you know, I wish everyone but

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 1>the world is so crazy. I wish if I really

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 1>could get to know your children and how impressive they are,

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:46.399
<v Speaker 1>because I think it's I think it's jarring almost people

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:50.240
<v Speaker 1>like wait a minute, what, oh my god? Because uh,

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and no one has favorites. Everyone loves everyone equally.

0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I get that. But I think you know who I

0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:00.560
<v Speaker 1>connected with immediately the minute I met her because she's

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:05.839
<v Speaker 1>over the lunatic aspisces like you. But she's a performer,

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I like lunatic as spics, like you

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 1>all pisces performers, and it's just wait a minute. But

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>but I say that because what I think, what I

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:21.720
<v Speaker 1>immediately connected with is here is a child who's told

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 1>that they can do anything they want to do, and

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:26.479
<v Speaker 1>they dream and they believe, and they're not shy. Lauren,

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I went, I grew up with so many people who

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.160
<v Speaker 1>are shy, who were I'm comfortable in the room. Well,

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to speak up. I don't know anybody.

0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anybody. I'm about to know everybody in

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>this room, you know. And and that's the way she is,

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and I don't I don't want to. I want to

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>stay her name and embarrassing in case she's listening. But

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 1>it is she she I don't think she's ever met

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a stranger that she will move into a space and like,

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I'm here, Second of all, I'm going

0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to be heard, and third of all, yeah, I'm ready.

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Will anybody volunteer here? We go? Like I could see

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:56.800
<v Speaker 1>she would be the one. I'm like, she beat me again.

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.239
<v Speaker 1>How she keeps volunteering before I do or whatever it

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>is and I love that love that. I'm glad you

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:05.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know him because they talk back. Period, all talk back.

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Everybody talk back. Everybody knows which one it is that

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows that. You know that he entertains the audience

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:18.799
<v Speaker 1>is doing coffee times, Yeah it was, you know. I

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>hope everybody enjoyed a Memorial Day barbecue. I hope you'll

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:24.360
<v Speaker 1>barbecue if you lost the loved one. We were sorry,

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, hold on to the memory. But the world

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 1>is so heavy right now, and we just wanted to

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:31.320
<v Speaker 1>have a Hodgepody. We even got deeper than we wanted

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 1>to go. We because we really wanted to just have

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a life. Salad with no meat day. Yeah, we want

0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to like salad with no meat. But we got meat,

0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:43.879
<v Speaker 1>and we get dressed, and we got ranched. I don't

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 1>even like ranch dressed. But you know, that's what laugh

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:49.719
<v Speaker 1>and learning is. Because we talked to each other. Y'all

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 1>talk to us. We teach each other. Y'all need to

0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:54.160
<v Speaker 1>watch what's the name. What's the name of the the documentary.

0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:57.520
<v Speaker 1>It's called Tulsa's Burning. It came out yesterday on the

0:56:57.560 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>History Channel. It's about two hours long, but it's stuff

0:56:59.880 --> 0:57:02.359
<v Speaker 1>in me worth the watch. I encourage you guys all

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to go and watch it. I think it's on demand

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 1>right now, Lauren to even better because yeah, in the

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:11.960
<v Speaker 1>History channels doing this whole you know, kind of like

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 1>a reparations month kind of thing where they're trying to

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 1>bring light to some of the tragedies that have happened

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:19.479
<v Speaker 1>in the black community. So and they even actually gave

0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:22.680
<v Speaker 1>funds to the A. M. E. Church that was actually

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 1>initially burned down in the Tulsa Race massacre, but part

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.360
<v Speaker 1>of their basement was actually preserved, like it was the

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 1>only thing that was left, and they've rebuilt this church.

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>So they're also giving some funds towards the Amy Church

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 1>to help keep it, you know, alive and kind of

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 1>create this mural or it's something like a mural or

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a space where they can come and just kind of

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:46.959
<v Speaker 1>grieve with what was going on, like a safe haven

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. So please go watch the Flame. I

0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>do want to ask you if you can share anything

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that you might have thought might have been fun or uplifting,

0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 1>because last time we met, you had not had a

0:57:56.680 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 1>chance to attend the services for Paul Mooney, and then

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you did that and is there anything that you can

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>share with us that you took away from that or anything. Uh,

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody was hugging me and ship I was spreading lights

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 1>out like a mania baby. No that yeah, we did.

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 1>We did lose the Great Pulmony this past week and

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>they had a memorial service for him Thursday. I girl

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 1>O'Neill hosted. First of all, the nail was super funny, y'all.

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 1>She was so good. She's so ignorant. Good guy, that

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 1>lady's ignorant, and it was. It was quite great. And

0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>then they loved me because I went up at the

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>inn and did my thing. It was, it was great.

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 1>His son spoke, well, they booked me. Oh, I'm performing

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>at the Latter Factory in Hollywood on Friday at the

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:42.600
<v Speaker 1>ten fifty show. I forgot all about that, Lauren. I

0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's kicking in, Lauren. I think, okay, So we're

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 1>not trying to get you the what's the line? Oh yeah,

0:58:56.480 --> 0:59:01.440
<v Speaker 1>because thank you guys for because you know, this page

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:04.080
<v Speaker 1>is a transfer of information and we could not do

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it without you, flame mats and kindle here because Triple

0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 1>could make it today. And on this page, we're not

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to get you to do whatn't it. We're not

0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to get you to change your mind. We're simply

0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to get you to use your mind because you

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:18.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have a brain. Take your ass to see the

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:22.200
<v Speaker 1>wizard because guess what he passed out brains Hans courage,

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and then helping you get plane tickets back home. All that.

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a bit named Glenda Sheet, the bottom bit. She

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 1>doing all the work. The little do all be kissing

0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:34.600
<v Speaker 1>on your understand never thank you for joining us, for

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 1>laughing learning today. We hope that you guys have had

0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 1>an amazing week. We asked that you stay safe, stay

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 1>prayed up, stay out them phones when you're in public places.

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Is happening a lot more publicly and a lot more randomly.

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 1>We didn't talk about this day on purpose, but walking

0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>in the store and the words of tech j and

0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:55.160
<v Speaker 1>keep your head on the swivel because it's just happening

0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 1>anywhere and everywhere. And if you can't get away, run

0:59:58.600 --> 1:00:02.480
<v Speaker 1>had don't open the door, save yourself because it's scary,

1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:05.200
<v Speaker 1>this flaming. I see y'all at love Lounge tonight. I'll

1:00:05.240 --> 1:00:09.600
<v Speaker 1>be feeling real lounge. Thank you. Where can we find y'all?

1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait, Lauren. We can find

1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:15.120
<v Speaker 1>me at Nick Smith News on all social media platforms

1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and I am Lauren Armani h on Instagram as well

1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:23.520
<v Speaker 1>as Lauren Hogan on YouTube and Flame uh Flame is

1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:27.880
<v Speaker 1>at Monroe Flame on Instagram, Marcus Flay Monroe Parker on Facebook.

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1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 1>unofficial porn site and flam Twitter. Please watch the k

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<v Speaker 1>Interview and she will be on st Your Special Guest

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<v Speaker 1>The show is produced by Triple Our theme music is

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