1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Welcome in third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: right now, and appreciate you being with us. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Everybody. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Let's dive into where we stand on the teriff issue. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Things looking okay today in the markets, but I'm not 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: gonna do this thing where good day, bad day. We're 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: gonna chase it all. And this is about the macro picture. 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: This is the thirty thousand foot view of not just 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the manufacturing and the employment picture and the stock market, 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: but also the future of our country, our competitiveness on 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: the world stage in America. First economic model that allows 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: us to thrive, yes, economically, but also from a national 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: security perspective. We were just talking to Interior secretary, a 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: great interview, by the way, I highly recommend you go 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: and listen if you missed it, if you're joining us 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: now in progress with Doug Bergram, Interior secretary who Clay 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: had breakfast with this morning. And I gotta say, impressive guy. 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: And I thought so to be fair, even during the debates, 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 1: I said, no, this guy's this guy's got something. Clearly 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Trump thought so too, right. He ran for president and 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: made enough of an impression that Trump has now given 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: him what is an important role Interior Secretary doesn't get 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: the same kind of press as I think it's always 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Treasury and Secretary of State for the cabinet positions, just 25 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: the media rights about those, you know, people care a 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: lot about their money, and they care about foreign policy 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: and wars and stuff like that, and Secretary Defense. 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: Those are probably the big three. 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: But Interior Secretary has a very important portfolio, especially given 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: the dual the dual track clay that Trump is pursuing 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: with Burgham and the people in doge of efficiency and 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: making everything work better that the government should be doing 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: and should not be doing part of that, and then 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: also going after our resources more aggressively and not allowing 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: these lunatic left wing environmentalist wackos to do things like 36 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: shut down the Keystone XL pipeline, which was just cutting 37 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: off your nose despite your face. It makes no sense totally. 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: And I had not met Doug Bergham other than to 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: shake hands with him. I was at the Ohio State 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: and Penn State game. We were campaigning for Dave McCormick, 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: and that was a really fun event. Shook hands with him. 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: We had an awesome breakfast this morning. It was great 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: to be able to spend some time with him. Remember 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: he was one of the final three I think buck 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: in the VP sweepstakes. 46 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: If I remember correctly. 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: It was JD. There were rumors that it was going 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: to be him. There were rumors that he was gonna 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: be the VP. It was him, It was this according 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: to reports, him, JD and I believe Glenn Youngkin were 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: potentially the final three that Trump was reportedly considering, and 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: JD got the pick and he's been great. But meeting 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: with Doug Bergham, I think we probably have under discussed 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: I mean you, me and the larger media outlets. Trump 55 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: has put together a really phenomenal cabinet. I mean across 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: the board. When you look and compare Trump two point 57 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: zero to Trump one point oh, the amount of brain 58 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: power that he has brought to bear in this cabinet 59 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: and incredibly accomplished people who have done things outside of government. 60 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: You know, Doug Bargam built a really great company that 61 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Microsoft bought in North Dakota. I don't know how many 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: Dakota tech companies have been created that are worth billions 63 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: of dollars, but he built one. And I think he's 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: taught this story publicly, But anybody out there who started 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: small business. There have probably been times where you have been, 66 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: maybe for years, lying awake in your bed, like, man, 67 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna make payroll. I'm not 68 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: sure how well this company is going to go. I mean, 69 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: starting a small business is not something that often leads 70 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: to a lot of rest and relaxation. It's a battle. 71 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: And he talked about except for seven years, he wasn't 72 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: really sure how well the company was going to work, 73 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: and he's fighting tooth and nail. He mortgaged his family 74 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: farm one hundred and forty acres to start that company, 75 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm going to legitimately lose the family 76 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: farm over this business. And I want people and you 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: and I have talked about this who have had some 78 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: success in life who decide to give back to the 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: government to a large extent instead of a lot of 80 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: these Joe Biden figures who just worked their whole life 81 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: in the government. Well, this is a whole lot and 82 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: I think it's even worse claive than working their whole 83 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: life in the government. They work for bureaucracies, whether it's 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: the government or some think tank or that it's like 85 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: they're paid they're bought and paid for by somebody else 86 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: who actually has to create things and make money, right, 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: So I think the other thing is there. It was 88 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: not long ago. I remember in the early days of 89 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: the Tea Party the notion of. 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Adding a. 91 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: Slew of high level executives from the private sector to 92 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: take really important jobs in government. 93 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: That was a pipe dream. 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: You know, you go back to the Bush era and yeah, 95 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: I know you can say that. Well, you know, Cheney 96 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: had a private sector background. In Rumsfeld, it was like 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: military industrial complex stuff. I'm talking about what Clay is 98 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: talking about, which is builds a company, has the vision, 99 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: takes the risk, understands how to make this work. And 100 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: you have this with a whole range of people who 101 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: work with Obviously Elon Musk's probably the best known and 102 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: the most visible right now, even though he's a special 103 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: government employee. But you have it with Doug Berg, and 104 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: you have it with you know, Scott bess End, who 105 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: was very high level, a hedge fun guy. I mean, 106 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: these are people who have this is really a thing, Clay. 107 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Have you had to make decisions where right or wrong matters, 108 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: and if you're wrong there are consequences. Have you You've 109 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: gone through your entire adult life working at places where 110 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: whether you showed up or not, it didn't matter where 111 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: whether you showed up or not, the check would be 112 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: there waiting for you because somehow the money usually from 113 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: a taxpayer, but you know, comes from somewhere else, an 114 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: endowment at a university, a foundation set up by some 115 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: rich family fifty years ago, and no one even knows 116 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: where the money is still going these days, you know, 117 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: or I mean, you did this, We're doing this now 118 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: with Crockett. Do you just pull some assets together, hire 119 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: some people, and tighten up your bootstraps, hope for the best, 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: and try to build something. And that is that is 121 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: a mentality, a skill set, and a discipline that is 122 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: now brought to bear with Trump and his team. 123 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: And this was this is not the case before. 124 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, even some of our favorites, I 125 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: mean you go back and look at some very popular 126 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Republican politicians and presidents did not have the private sect, 127 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: certainly the private sector cabinet that we see for us 128 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: right now in terms. 129 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Of how how impressive they are. 130 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they've had people from Goldman Sachs working 131 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: in the government before, probably too many of them, but 132 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: there have been a lot of very impressive people. Okay, 133 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: so let's get into these tariffs here for second, Clay, 134 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: this is Trump. First of all, it's funny. I saw 135 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: somebody asked me last night I did, Uh. You know 136 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Leland Vidderd, who used to be at Fox. He now 137 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: is a show and he's a friend, so I occasionally 138 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: will pop up on a show or news nation. 139 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: Uh, he says, you know. 140 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: So what do you think about Trump saying we're going 141 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: to be nice to China? And he actually got me 142 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: for a seconds. I was like, wait, what Trump just 143 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: said we're going to be nice? Yeah, he did apparently 144 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: said we're gonna be nice to China. That's today, it 145 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: could change tomorrow. Here's Trump on the trade deals. China's 146 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: of course front and center on this play cut four. 147 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: They all want to be involved with America, and we 148 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: have a lot of action going on. 149 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: We have. 150 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: We're making a lot of money this country. This country 151 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: is not going to be losing money on trade anymore. 152 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: Funny thing, we were losing two trillion. 153 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Dollars a year on trade. 154 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: Now we're going to be making money, a lot of money. 155 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: So that's very good. 156 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: Every country wants to partake even countries that have this 157 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: years China as an example, but it's not just China. 158 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: European Union. 159 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: They ripped us off for many, many years, and those 160 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: days are over. We're gonna make a lot of money 161 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: for our people. We'll be able to lower taxes substantially, 162 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: and we're going to be proud of ourselves. They're not 163 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: going to be a laughing stock taken advantage of by 164 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: virtually every country in the world. 165 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: Clay, I'll get to the China pieces of a second. 166 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: How do you think this is going so far for Trump? Look, 167 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: I think Trump, as we come up on one hundred days, 168 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: has had one of the most incredible hundred days that 169 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: we've ever seen. 170 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: I mean that honestly. 171 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: He has delivered on exactly what he said he was 172 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: going to go after he shut down the border, which 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: we were told was impossible. I mean that is in 174 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: a plus plus plus plus plus plus. I mean, Tom Homan, 175 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: what they have done. This is exactly what we voted for. 176 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: I think on trade, it's going to be a battle, 177 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: and this is one that is not going to be 178 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: decided anytime soon. So I think you know you have 179 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: to give him. I don't know a B A B 180 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: minus if you want to say, because understandably it's going 181 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: to take a while. So that was one that couldn't 182 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: be resolved rapidly. And then I think overall on the budget, 183 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: I think he's done pretty well. I mean Elon Musk 184 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: or the work that he has done, we should mention. 185 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: Yesterday Elon said on the Tesla call that he's likely 186 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: going to be spending less and less time in the government. 187 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: We told you this was going to happen, and we 188 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: predicted I think on this program that sometime around May 189 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: that all of the obligations Elon Musk has in the 190 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: larger world we're going to begin to impinge upon him. 191 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: That has happened. He says he's going to spend more 192 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: time with his companies, and so I think this battle 193 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: with the tariffs and the trade wars is such a 194 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: hard fight. You mentioned politicians and what their backgrounds are. 195 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: Starting a small business is hard. A lot of people 196 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: run from doing hard things, and I think that many 197 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: politicians try to avoid addressing things that are hard battles 198 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: to win because they're not really concerned with making the 199 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: country better. They're concerned with making sure that they always 200 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: get re elected, and sometimes if you try to do 201 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: hard things, people can start to blame you for the 202 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: consequences of taking on hard battles. Look, I think this 203 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: has happened with entitlements. Why do we have entitlements spending 204 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: rapidly eclipsing the entirety of our federal budget because a 205 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: lot of politicians won't be honest with people about the 206 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: cost of health care and the cost of Social Security 207 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: and how that is gobbling up increasingly more and more 208 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: of our budgets because that's not an issue that gets 209 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: easily resolved, and if it does get resolved, it might 210 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: cost you your job. And so a lot of politicians 211 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: aren't concerned with doing what's right. They're concerned with what 212 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: gets them elected. And I kind of think about it 213 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: from an analogistic perspective. Buck if you talk to people 214 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: who run companies, they will say one of the toughest 215 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: things about running a company is having to have quarterly 216 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: results public companies, because when you have to meet quarterly expectations, 217 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: sometimes you don't do what's in the best interest of 218 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: the company for a decade. You do what's in the 219 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: best interest of the company for two months. Those can 220 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: become conflicting ideals, and that's why some people say, Hey, 221 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to take my company public because I 222 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: want to be able to run it in the best 223 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: manner possible. But that might mean that we don't meet 224 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: earnings in quarter one, but by quarter one two years 225 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: from now, we're far better than we would have been 226 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: if we had been trying to make sure we met 227 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: short term success. But we sacrifice a long term success 228 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: for short term success. And I think what Trump's trying 229 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: to do here is set up long term success, even 230 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: if that potentially means in the short term. The metrics 231 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: of success are not necessarily met in a traditional political environment. 232 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: And this is why I think Bucky would like to 233 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: be able to run for reelection, because I think he's 234 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: thinking longer term and he knows that it's hard to 235 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: get a lot done in four years, and the older 236 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: I get, the shorter four years seems. Because man, I'll 237 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: tell you I didn't enjoy the Biden administration. But there 238 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: are lots of times when you're young where a presidential 239 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: term of four years seems like it takes forever. High 240 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: school seems like it took forever. College can seem like 241 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: it takes forever. I turn around now and I'm like, 242 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: that was eight years ago. That seems like, you know, 243 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: two years ago, right, And I know some of you 244 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: out there older than me, and you're like, you know, 245 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: listen here, whipper snapper. It only gets worse. But I 246 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: think that's part what Trump is grappling with, if that 247 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: makes sense. Absolutely now here. He is grappling with getting 248 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: a deal done. This is cut five, getting a deal 249 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: done with China. 250 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: My relationship with President she is great. It was, It's 251 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: been great for a long time. We've had a very 252 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: good relationship. 253 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: And I think we'll make a deal with China. We're 254 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: going to be very nice. 255 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: They're going to be very nice, and we'll see what happens. 256 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: But ultimately they have to make a deal because otherwise 257 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: they're not going to be able to deal in the 258 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: United States. 259 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: You know, it's very Trump. We're gonna be very nice. 260 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: Well what does that mean with with Trump? 261 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: That leads a lot of open territory, nice like polite 262 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: and funny, but then gonna demand that China plays ball 263 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: or else. I mean, I I think that Look, he 264 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: loves he lives for this stuff. Honestly, he lives for 265 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: sitting down across the table from the second most powerful 266 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: world leader in the world, which is what chesenping is. 267 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: It's not Vladimir Putin, it is Jesion ping no question 268 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: and saying, you know, hey, buddy, what do you got? 269 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: What cards? What cards do you think you hold? Right now? 270 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 2: Let's see he loves to negotiate. 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They got into a 307 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: West Wing shouting match over the irs head, according to 308 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: two witnesses three sources quote it was two billionaire middle 309 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: aged men thinking it was wwe in the hall of. 310 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: The West Wing. 311 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: The clash with both men and each other's faces yelling 312 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: at each other over the irs head. Asked about the 313 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: shouting match, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt referred to 314 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: comments she made to The Times about how, quote, it's 315 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: no secret President Trump has put together a team of 316 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: people who are incredibly passionate about the issues impacting our country. 317 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: Disagreements are a normal part of any healthy policy process. 318 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Ultimately everyone knows they so at the pleasure of President Trump. 319 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: I think buck that Elon is beginning to finally get 320 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: as we said, he likely would super frustrated at not 321 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: being able to get government to move as fast as 322 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: he wants it to be moved. As we know he 323 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: has done at Tesla, at SpaceX, at XAI, at Twitter. 324 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: He wants to move fast and break things, and it's 325 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: hard to do that at government, very hard to do 326 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: that in government. I've thought this all along. I've told 327 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: you guys, you know, this dose thing is going to 328 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: be tough. 329 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: They're doing. I love what they're doing, but they're trying to. 330 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: It's like a guy in a tugboat trying to move 331 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: the Empire of the seas or whatever. That giant cruise 332 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: ship is that I see parking in mind. What's the 333 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: It's called something like that. It's like the biggest ship 334 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: in the world. I forget the name. I drive past it. 335 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: All right. 336 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: Switch your cell phone service to pure Talk and say 337 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: fifty bucks or more every month. Their service is just 338 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: as good as those big wireless companies, and that is 339 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: for a reason. Puretalk accesses the same towers, same networks 340 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: as one of the big three wireless providers, and you 341 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: can also keep your number and your phone. 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He is not 358 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: giving up on the fact that China has been ripping 359 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 4: off the United States of America for far too long. 360 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 4: And President Trump has brought hundreds of countries now from 361 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: around the world to the negotiating table. We have eighteen 362 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: proposals on paper from nations around the world who recognize 363 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: that they have in fact been ripping off the United States. 364 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: And there's a president in the Oval Office right now 365 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: who is no longer going to tolerate it. So this 366 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: is the art of the deal. President Trump is using 367 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 4: the leverage of the United States to bring nations to 368 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 4: the negotiating table that includes China, who he remains very 369 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: optimistic there will be a fair trade deal with China 370 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: that finally puts American workers and American industry first. 371 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: Yep art of the deal, Trump's doing his thing as 372 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: we knew that he would all along. No one's going 373 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: to tell him not to. He is the Trumpster, and 374 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: he will be judged by his results on this one, 375 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: and he knows that, and he also I think deserve 376 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: you know a lot of things play what I've said. Look, 377 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: he's been right on so many things where even and 378 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans were saying, oh, no, you can't 379 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: do that. 380 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: His whole political story is being right. 381 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: When everyone says you can't do that, or pushing through 382 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: whatever and says it's impossible. 383 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: But on China specifically, he's the. 384 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: Only one who's doing anything, or rather he's the only 385 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: one who's been in a position to do anything who's 386 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: been willing to look at this issue. 387 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: You speak to anybody, and. 388 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: I mean I saw mister wonderful Kevin O'Leary was on 389 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: TV recently talking about how and I've heard this from 390 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: other people. I was in I was in China for 391 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: a business conference in twenty nineteen and it's very very interesting, 392 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: very eerie thing. I don't know how many of you 393 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: have been to China. Some of you have probably been 394 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: missionaries there or something and have been there for twenty 395 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: years and speak Mandarin. But and I say that not kidding. 396 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a few of you who that's 397 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: the case. But when you go there, it is like 398 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: you're on another planet in a lot of ways, just 399 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: because things that you cannot take certain things for granted 400 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: at all, and you're very mindful of who you're speaking 401 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: to and what you're saying, and what you're googling, or 402 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: rather not googling because you can't google, but you know 403 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: what you're doing on the Internet. And the theft of 404 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: intellectual property. I mean, think about this, Clay. You want 405 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: to do business in China. You run a company that 406 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: you know makes widgets, you know, the Crockett Widget Company. 407 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: We decide we're going to set up shop. Oh we 408 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: want access to China's market, Okay, cool, So we do 409 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: a joint venture with a Chinese company because the Chinese 410 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: government mandates it, and then we do this joint venture 411 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: with them, and then they set up shop down the 412 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: road with government backing, taking all the stuff that we've 413 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: brought with us, replicating it, starting a new company, shutting 414 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: down our joint venture, and we can't sue, We can't 415 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: do anything. It's see you later. That is standard operating 416 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: procedure in the People's Republic of China. That is what 417 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: goes on their clay. It's why companies don't want to 418 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: do business with them, and they get away with this 419 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: stuff all the time. I would point out that if 420 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: you question Trump's wisdom on tariffs in the way that 421 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: he responded to China, do you know that the only 422 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: thing Joe Biden didn't change when he took office John 423 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: Trump's tariffs on China, And it sort of has slipped 424 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: under the radar that that occurred. But think about all 425 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: the executive orders that Joe Biden put in place the 426 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: minute that he got to the oval office. One of 427 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: the most controversial things that Trump did, we were told, 428 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: was China trade policy and the tariffs that he implemented 429 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: to try to make Chinese trade policy farer with the 430 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: United States. So many people squawked in opposition. Biden got 431 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: in office, never changed him, kept him on. 432 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: Biden. 433 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: Here you go a little fun throwback here. January twenty 434 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: twenty two. President Biden's administration has left tariffs in place 435 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: on three hundred and fifty billion dollars of Chinese goods 436 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: imposed by his predecessor on Trump. Hmm, it mightn't that 437 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: interesting thing they agreed on Buck, It might, I mean legitimately. 438 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: And initially they all said this was unacceptable, it was 439 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: going to destroy the economy. Biden comes into office, he 440 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: left them all in place. So I just think that 441 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: speaks volumes about this. And also you notice how people 442 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: that were saying, oh, why is he tearing up NAFTA 443 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: with the US Mexico Canada agreement because the Mexico Canada 444 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: agreements better. He was right all the people that were saying, 445 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: why is he messing with NAFTA? NAFTA was old, NAFTA 446 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: needed to be updated. There were problems with NAFTA, and 447 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: he did. 448 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: So. Do you hear anyone saying we need to get 449 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: rid of US Mexico Canada now? No, of course not. 450 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: Did Biden try to do that? No, of course not right. 451 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: So there's a track record here, Clay that I don't 452 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: think anybody should ignore if they want to have any 453 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: sense as to what's possible here and what the likely 454 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: outcomes could be. You know, in retrospect, a guy who 455 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: probably deserves a lot more credit that doesn't get it 456 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: ross Pero because one of his top for those of 457 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: you who remember one of those, you're going to say 458 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: you can and there's a lot of people we get 459 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: thrown in the mix, but go ahead. But I mean, 460 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: I think ross Perrot one of his top issues was 461 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: he said that NAFTA was going to be a net 462 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: negative for American middle class jobs. And I think that 463 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: much of the argument that he made has in many 464 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: ways been proved to be prescient. In other words, he's 465 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: been proven to be right. And people forget how many 466 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: voters he got. Back in nineteen ninety two, as all 467 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: of this NAFTA free trade discussion was beginning, there were 468 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people kind of tiptoeing into it, not 469 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: really understanding what we were headed for. And there is 470 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: an element, I know, it's whatever forty years later, basically, 471 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: but there is a strong element of Trump trade policy 472 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: that is evoking and echoing the arguments that ross Perout 473 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: was making as long ago as ninety two. And to 474 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: your point, Buck, there are many people who made them. 475 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: But I just remember Ross Perou in particular, getting savaged 476 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: over these arguments that he was making, and I bet 477 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: Trump agreed with a lot of them back in the day. 478 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: Because Trump's on record talking about this back in the 479 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: eighties with Oprah Winfrey, I mean that some of that 480 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: footage has come out of him. The one thing he's 481 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: been consistent on is the fact that I was getting 482 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: our once. I don't think you can find other than 483 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: liking pretty ladies. I don't think you can find anything 484 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump has been more consistent on in public 485 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: life period than tariffs and China. 486 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what else. 487 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, maybe deal making is important, you know, but 488 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: there's nothing on a policy level that you can point 489 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: to where he's been as consistent as long as he 490 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: has on this issue. And I think that for all 491 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: the reason we've laid out, we should see where he's 492 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: able to take this. 493 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: Here we go. 494 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: Vip Robert wrote, this didn't play on Trump China pull 495 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: line from the movie Roadhouse, be nice until it's time 496 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: not to be nice. I think that, first of all, 497 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: great great reference Roadhouse one of the most watchable absurd 498 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: movies ever made. Uh being remade it and now they're 499 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: making The Roadhouse too, right, you watched I never saw 500 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: the remake, No, I bet, I don't even have to. 501 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: It had like the little Irish m m A guy 502 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 2: in it. 503 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: What's his name? Not the new one Patty? Yeah, Connor McGregor. No, no, no, 504 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. If I want to be on record 505 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: with Buck is saying that Connor McGregor is a little 506 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: Irish guy. 507 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm not that's fair. 508 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't and he can't kick again, 509 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: he's not an actor. I'm gonna be having to get 510 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: us somewhere and there's gonna be a tap on my 511 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: shoulder and that little Irish guy is gonna be there 512 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: kicking my ass and I'm gonna be like, no, it 513 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: was back who said it. I didn't have anything to 514 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: do with it. And Jake gillanall is the bet is 515 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: playing the lead role. Right, Yeah, it's said in the 516 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: it is a It is a Patrick Swayzee classic. For 517 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: those of you who have not seen it, it is 518 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: absolutely absurd. Like the whole movie. He lives across the 519 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: lake from the main bad guy. He's like somehow knows karate. 520 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: He went to NYU like none adds. The movie makes 521 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: absolutely he he goes, he gets stabbed in a knife fight, 522 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: and the nurse who's tending to him is like a 523 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: sports illustrated swimsuit model. 524 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: Who lives in this gorgeous. 525 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: Who lives in this small town and then wants to 526 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: go roll around with this guy and like the actual 527 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: barn that he lives in. I'm just look, not all 528 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: heroes wear capes. It was pretty amazing that he was 529 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: able to pull this off in the movie. But yes, 530 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: it is very, very a Sam Elliott by the way, 531 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: some great Sam Elliot stuff. 532 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: What does he keep? Does he call him Kimosabe or 533 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: what's his u? 534 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: Me? 535 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: Miho? He calls a miho in the movie? Is there 536 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: a bet? This is a fun debate? 537 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: Is there a better Night teen eighties era range of 538 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: actor range than Patrick Swayzee for wildly successful movies that 539 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: had nothing in common? Because if you think about just 540 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: off the top of my head, Ghost, Dirty Dancing, and Roadhouse, 541 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: like the difference between Roadhouse and Ghost is or Roadhouse 542 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: and I guess point Break is nineties. But point Break 543 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: would be another great one to add. And then some 544 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: of you are going to remember this and this is 545 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: the history nerd in me. He also played a Civil 546 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: War soldier or this is I don't know how many 547 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: of you ever gonna remember this Civil War? Civil War 548 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: Camp Clay. Yeah, this we just sat around to watch 549 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: this movie. And he played a Confederate general or E. 550 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: Maine from South Carolina. The range of Patrick Swayze excellence 551 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: to your point, if you was point break nineteen ninety, 552 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: it might have been just the very around them. 553 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: But I mean, if you think about. 554 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Ghost, if you think of the Dirty Dancing Roadhouse, North 555 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: and South and Love and War, which was like this 556 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: television mini series epic based on the John Jakes novels 557 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: of the Civil War, and man, I may well have 558 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: super nerded myself out there. I don't know how many 559 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: of you read these in the eighties, but I did. 560 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: And the because of the mini series was so popular, 561 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Swayze might have had the best acting career of 562 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: anyone range super successful movies in the nineteen eighties. I mean, 563 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: like Arnold Schwarzenegger basically played Arnold Schwarzenegger, right, Sylvester Stallone 564 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: basically played Sylvester Stallone. I know there's some exceptions, like 565 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger was in Twins with Danny DeVito, where he 566 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: was funny kindergarten cop. 567 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: It's not the Tuma, it's one of his. There are 568 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: a few expo. 569 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: Oh, Michael Barry, our buddy down in Houston, just texted 570 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: me Red Dawn. I mean remember how good he was 571 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: and read Dawn Rye in the nineteen eighties, and as 572 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: part of I. 573 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: Mean, I just want to say, well played, mister Berry. 574 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: Well played. 575 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: He's got a great show in Houston for those of 576 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: you that are listening to us right now. 577 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: But I mean, think about it. 578 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: Is he this is this maybe the most aggressive crazy 579 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: argument I've made. Is Patrick Swayzee the most underrated nineteen 580 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: eighties movie actor of all time? I don't know if 581 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: he could. I don't think he's underrated enough. I don't 582 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: think he's underrated. I think that he well, he passed 583 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: away of cancer sadly some years ago, but I just 584 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: think that he didn't He didn't stay as big for 585 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: like long. But I think that he was. I think 586 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: in the eighties he was a true leading man and 587 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: was getting his dude. 588 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: Look at the movie? 589 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: Was he the best nineteen eighties actor? If you can 590 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: sell now you're getting Now you're getting creat Now you're. 591 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: Calling range on range. 592 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: I think there's a sway there's an under disrespected under 593 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: the radar argument for Patrick Swayzey's excellent. That is a 594 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: generation you Gen X people, Paccino and de Niro way 595 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: too much. So that's always, uh, that always comes up 596 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: in this I've never been Robert de Niro plays the 597 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: same character in every same thing and everything the same, 598 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, Italian Mafia, Like, yes, the whole the whole thing. 599 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: I've never I think that I would put them in 600 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: the really overrated category actually of actors. Yeah, that's that's 601 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: a hot take for you. Some of the people in 602 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: the Northeast. We got a lot of New Jersey New 603 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: York listeners. I'm not gonna like that one, but I'm 604 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: just telling you, Okay, yeah, Goodfellas is very watchable, but like, 605 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: let's calm down, it's not as great as Everybody protects. 606 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: Michael Berry is still firing, by the way, the Outsiders. 607 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: All nineteen eighties. I'm I'm gonna maybe have to die 608 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: on this hill. But I think Harris Harrison Ford was big, 609 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: was huge in the eighties. Indiana Jones, right, So you'd 610 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: You're you're saying best actorating range range like he's Indiana. 611 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: Basically Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones or Han Solo in 612 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: those movies across the board, right the range of Dirty 613 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: Dancing to Roadhouse to Red Dawn. Is there better nineteen 614 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: eighties performance than Patrick Swayzee. 615 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not sure we can beat him, 616 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: and I actually don't. 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History on the Team forty seven podcast 652 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: Play and Buck Highlight Trump Free plays from the. 653 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: Week Sundays at noon Eastern. 654 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you. 655 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: Get your podcasts. 656 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show. This is 657 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: not gonna surprise you, but we are deluged. Michael Barry says, 658 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know this. He's evidently a fount of Patrick 659 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 1: Swayze knowledge, our Houston lead in phenomenal talent down there. 660 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: Patrick Swayzee legend in Houston. Mom ran a famous dance 661 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: studio for decades. He came up through the dance studio 662 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: family known by everybody. Michael Berry unexpected savant when it 663 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: comes to Patrick Swayze knowledge and a lot of you 664 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: firing away. But Buck, you have you have someone that 665 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: you think is a more successful range actor from the 666 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties that you thought about during And I don't 667 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: even know the answer here yet. I think we have 668 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: to bring Tom Hanks into the conversation here. I think 669 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: we have to bring Tom Hanks in. You're talking Splash, 670 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: big Turner and Hooch dragnet. You know, you get a 671 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: hole and then he gets into like Philadelphia Forrest Gum. 672 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: Now that's early, that's the nineties. 673 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: I knew. 674 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: I would argue you probably made a good case for 675 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks in the nineties to be the actor with 676 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: no But all those movies I named were eighties, so 677 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: that's Turner and Hooch, Dragnet Splash. He was a little 678 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: more of a kind of romantic lead comedy guy in 679 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: the eighties and then very much transitioned into like leading 680 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: man serious roles. To be fair, the transition really occurs 681 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: right around nineteen nineties, so your premise still holds, which 682 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm bitter having to say that, But yes, was big 683 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Yes, Tom Hanks big. That was By the way, 684 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: you want to talk about a movie that is super creepy, 685 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: super creepy in recrospect ten year old boy sleeping with 686 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, like, I'm not sure that movie holds up 687 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 1: really well as you get to be an adult. 688 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 2: It's great when you're tied when you. 689 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: Watch it and you're like, oh, we got we got 690 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: some VIPs real quick. Here Tom Cruise, and my friend 691 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: Garrett just texted, he's listening. He said, Tom Cruise, I 692 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: don't know if Tom Cruise has range. I think He's 693 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: probably the biggest leading man of all time. Him and 694 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: Harrison Ford probably neck and neck. Also, vip Rick writes 695 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: harrison Ford much greater range, witness, Working. 696 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 2: Girl, so many more. 697 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: Maybe true, although I feel like Harrison Ford always just 698 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: plays Harrison Ford. 699 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I agree. 700 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: I think Harrison Ford's always Harrison Ford, and again Tom 701 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: Cruise always Tom Cruise. I think my argument's right here. 702 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: I think Patrick Swayzee is the actor with the greatest 703 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: range of the nineteen eighties. 704 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,879 Speaker 2: You can argue otherwise and be wrong.