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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin

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Speaker 2: Podcast, Welcome to you, and that's what you really was

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Speaker 2: podcast Sadly, today, Kevin McHale is not with us, but

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Speaker 2: the one and only Sugar Matta Vanessa Lenji's is here.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Vanessa, I am no replacement for mister McHale, but.

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Speaker 2: No, you are the replacement. He would even say that

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Speaker 2: he'd be like, go on without me and to be.

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Speaker 1: Talking about American dreams. He's very upset not to be here.

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Speaker 3: I will say that was part of it.

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Speaker 2: We were like, Kevin, are you going to be so

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Speaker 3: He was like, you guys, just do it. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to talk about it, just do it. So we're

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Speaker 3: very excited things for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it is a pleasure to talk about

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Speaker 1: this show that I did. I mean I didn't even

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this premiered September twenty nine, two thousand and two. Vanessa, Wow,

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Speaker 3: This was the year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's we're going to get into it. So this

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Speaker 3: Vanessa.

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Speaker 2: Nji's here to talk about it with us, because not

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Speaker 2: this is very exciting. This is the pilot. It premiered

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Speaker 2: September twenty nine, two thousand and two, almost twenty four

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Speaker 2: a little bit of news, Vanessa. So the number one

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Speaker 3: Incredible, couldn't I don't remember that song.

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Speaker 1: Oh come on, I mean adorable. I could watch that classic.

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Speaker 1: Could we watch that together? Never mind Kevin, see you later.

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Speaker 1: This is Jenna and I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, definitely we should watch that, although we're watching

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Speaker 1: You and asked it I want to see.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and two September Network TV was appointment Viewing,

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Speaker 2: which shows like Friends on air west Wing alias. Oh.

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Speaker 1: My point of viewing means you had to wait for

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Speaker 2: I'm going to sit down and watch it.

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Speaker 2: American Idol had just crowned its first winter earlier that month.

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Speaker 2: Uh. And then just another little quick snapshot. We had

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure.

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00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: Pressure.

442
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: So I think we I think we had like I mean,

443
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: I would actually, you know, I would love to talk

444
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: to her and to I would love to talk to

445
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: her and us to be able to tell the story

446
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: from as a.

447
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm sure her perspective is also different and

448
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: yet so right exactly, but.

449
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: I do, I do. It's it's this weird feeling with

450
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Britt that it's somebody that is so inside my heart.

451
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: I love her so much. There is nothing that she

452
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: could do, There's nothing that could happen. Like she's my family.

453
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: That's it. She's just my family. I love her so

454
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: so so much, and we went through so much together,

455
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: and you guys love her. I have to keep watching

456
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: now and then you get to see the show change

457
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: because we went from being in Canada to Los Angeles

458
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: and then we got a studio where they built out

459
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: the whole. Where did you guys, Where did you guys

460
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: film Sunset Gower?

461
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

462
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: So then you came, okay, so you filmed Sunset Gower.

463
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: You filed a musical TV show which was like slightly different,

464
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: and I have questions about that on American Dreams.

465
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: And then years later you get and you're across the street,

466
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: right across the street.

467
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: How weird and also not.

468
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: I mean weird? Those gosh what did It was just

469
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: such a romantic time to be filming television.

470
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, and those and that's a jump, right, that's

471
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: what a ten year jump?

472
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, eight year jump?

473
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh what when did you come on? Twenty ten? Two

474
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: thousand nine, nine nine? Yeah, so seven seven? Well, I

475
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: guess you finished in two thousand and five. So yeah,

476
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't that long, but it's it was a there

477
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: was a it was a very special capsule, time capsule

478
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: for television. Yeah.

479
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: I would say if people love Glee, they would love

480
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: American Dreams. It has a lot of similar.

481
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me like the differences in the similarities that

482
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: it felt from the inside because obviously you guys were

483
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 2: doing some musical numbers in Bandstand? Did you were there

484
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 2: a lot of Was there a lot more Bandstand in

485
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: the later seasons? Were you guys there a lot more?

486
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. Once we started getting celebrity artists to come in,

487
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: things started to revolve around it because it seems such

488
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: a important press press publicity point.

489
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: Yea.

490
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: And in the same way that we would have on Glee,

491
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: you'd have five scenes, but if we were doing a musical,

492
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: it would take a day or you know, it would

493
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: just take more time. That was also the case if

494
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: it was a bandstand day, it would take more time.

495
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: They'd have a crane camera, they would have a steady

496
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: cam that we would do multiple takes because they it

497
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: basically turned into a music video, same as Glee. You know,

498
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: those numbers became music videos in their own way and

499
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: would be funny, isn't it.

500
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 2: That's so funny because a lot of people don't talk

501
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: about American dreams when we talk about Glee, and yet

502
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 2: it sounds there's so much similarity to all the just

503
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: a different time here you guys were, And what about

504
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: the historical component of the show, because I was very

505
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 2: moved by the fact that they really did lean into that,

506
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: I mean with the assassination and at the end, and

507
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: it was just and I'd imagine like that music becomes

508
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: such an important part. Like when I was watching it, it

509
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: reminded me of I was in class during nine to eleven.

510
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: I was in school and I'll never forget where I was,

511
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: right just like people talk about our older generations talk

512
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: about they'll never forget where they were during the assassination.

513
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: And like the.

514
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: News and the way that it shaped what in entertainment

515
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: and music and art and the ways that we clung

516
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: to that for solace, for hope, for grief, you know,

517
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: for all of it, and for Bansion. I'm sure during

518
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: that time, like I don't know, I didn't know about Benson.

519
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that, you know, but I'd imagine that

520
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: became such an important part for society to have to

521
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 2: uplift during that time, right, Yeah, But I thought it

522
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: was really beautiful that they included that, and I understand

523
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: that they probably continued to include like the historical components

524
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: throughout the whole show.

525
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely they that was that was the way the show

526
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: was sneaky and political, was to show nine to eleven

527
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: was very fresh. Yeah, very very fresh and right, that's right,

528
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: and that's right. And really it's just history just keeps

529
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: repeating itself, whether it's the fashion the cargo Pants were

530
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: talking about coming back twenty years later, or corruption in

531
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: the government, or shocking murders and devastations of unfathomable content.

532
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: It's just incredible. And so it's funny because we're talking

533
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: about American Dreams as if and American Dreams was talking

534
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: about the sixties. It's just it's like here we are,

535
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: here we are, but it's so true and that's why

536
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: we make this art. And I think that's what was

537
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: brilliant about the show. And I think that the creators

538
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: and the writers, I mean, people always say was it

539
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: ahead of its time? I don't know if it was

540
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: ahead of its time. It kind of feels like it's

541
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: in a timeless yes, you know, yeah place, but yeah,

542
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: but it again. Watching it yesterday, I felt like it

543
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: was such an incredible statement on the early two thousands

544
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: as well as the sixties, and and starting the show

545
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: with the assassination of the president felt like, well, I

546
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: had no reference for it, like you. I was in

547
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: class when I heard about nine to eleven, so I

548
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: had that reference. But then everyone in the next the

549
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: generation above who was working on the show, that was

550
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: a huge memory for them, and everyone had a story

551
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: of where they were when this happened. And I think

552
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: that what that did for the audience of American Dreams

553
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: and what people tell me when I meet people who

554
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: love the show so much, and there's so many people

555
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: who love the show. I was reading Samantha's notes for

556
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: this episode and it said that once the show stopped airing,

557
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: they were trying to get NBC pick it back up

558
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: and they were hiring planes to fly around the studio

559
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: with banners that said, you know, bring back American Dreams.

560
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just crazy. The fans that were

561
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: wonderful and crazy. But I think what I hear from

562
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: them is that it brought their family together. And I

563
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: think that's the reason that they brought the family together,

564
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: because it's something that the older generation in the family

565
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: could say, oh, I have a reference point for this,

566
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: and then I can connect to you about your reference

567
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: your newer reference point, and this brings us together in

568
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: a way where you know, families have a hard time

569
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: understanding each other when they're such an age gap, and

570
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: you see that in the show. JJ's fighting with his father,

571
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: Meg's fighting with his father. There's such a deep level

572
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: of misunderstanding between all the characters, and I think being

573
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: able to project that out as the characters from American

574
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Dreams helped families talk about things that were happening inside

575
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: their their own homes and anyways.

576
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: It was just great, so good, so good. It's so

577
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: true your fans, I mean, the fans were really so

578
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: they did they they organized campaigns to save the series.

579
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: They sent thousands of emails and postcards, they signed petitions,

580
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: they flew a banner over the network studios, and it

581
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: was it was relatively short for how beloved it truly was.

582
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you guys felt that.

583
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I know the creators wanted to get to Woodstock,

584
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like they just really wanted because it

585
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: was because it's the it's the.

586
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: Journey out of right right through time.

587
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: But it's it's the journey through time, but it's the

588
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: journey out of the bubble of that that stuffy American

589
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: dream that you see that the mom's character, you know,

590
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: it is revolutionary for her to say that she doesn't

591
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: want to have a fifth baby on the show, right

592
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: Like she goes to a book club and they are

593
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: not interested in reading anything that is about provocative or

594
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: about a free, sovereign woman or anything other than the

595
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: young woman stays home, cooks, cleans and has babies. That

596
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: was that was true, And so I think the creators

597
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: really wanted to tell the story of the peace love

598
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: and and.

599
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: I wish they had gotten that. I wish that you

600
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: guys had gotten.

601
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: There me too. And I think the fans wanted to

602
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: see that too, of course, And it's yours is a

603
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: long time too.

604
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, anything on TV that you get, you know,

605
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: three seasons, that's what a blessing.

606
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: You had so much foresight to see.

607
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: What was coming for Glee, that you had this whole

608
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: experience that I just was like, not even privy to.

609
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: I feel like I learned a whole new era of

610
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: your life by watching this pilot. Did you when you

611
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: walked on Glee set? Were you, like, I know, this

612
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: was it familiar to you? Because he was a familiar

613
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: to anybody on Glee. But I think you.

614
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: Were the one I think, I guess you know, Jenna,

615
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I think looking back, there must have been something in

616
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: me that felt like this is normal right from my

617
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: from my experience with American Dreams. And I don't think

618
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: I thought that. I think I was.

619
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: Some kind of subcondious thing, because like, I don't believe

620
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: that nobody talked about American Dreams in this way and

621
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: and Kevin, I mean Kevin did, but really nobody else

622
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: comparedly to American Dreams. And it's just so fascinating that

623
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: with the guest stars and with the dance days and

624
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: all of the things that are are so similar that

625
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: we wouldn't like, of course you were on American Dreams

626
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: and you came.

627
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: So I will explain why in what I and what

628
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: I think happened Plase, American Dreams was aired at a

629
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: time before streaming. It was just people were just starting

630
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: to see DVD sets of shows come out. So it

631
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: was like if it aired on TV, you saw it

632
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: on TV. If it was reruns, you got to see reruns.

633
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: But if the network didn't air it, then you didn't

634
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: see it. And then right after that they thought, hey,

635
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: people want to see old shows. They like, let's start

636
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: becoming them coming out with them. Except for because American

637
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: Dreams didn't know about the future technology of DV sets

638
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: for TV shows, the contracts they made for all of

639
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: the musical numbers were not done in a way that

640
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: could be find that made financial sense, Like the DVD

641
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: sets would have had to be six hundred dollars a

642
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: set in order to have that make sense because of

643
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: the rights that they would have to pay each the

644
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: celebrity and the original artist.

645
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: So they really didn't have the forest.

646
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: They did not they had. They did not know about streaming.

647
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: They did there was no streaming there was. So what

648
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: happened is it didn't come out.

649
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean that is that why it's so hard

650
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: to find the show, Like if my Boddy can rediscover it,

651
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: like they're rediscoveringly at this point, there's you really have

652
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: to calling.

653
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: Through YouTube to find it out and hopefully it doesn't

654
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: get taken down because I'm pretty sure it's not there

655
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're paying any of the artists

656
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: up there. I think maybe they came out with the

657
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: second and third season on DVD and figured out how

658
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: to re edit it and remaster it so that the

659
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: music wasn't as expensive. Maybe they edited the scenes down

660
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: so that they didn't have to pay. Sure sucks because

661
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: that's not the full experience of the show and that's

662
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: such an comfort part of the show. But anyways, if

663
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: you are lucky enough to be able to see American

664
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: Dreams on YouTube before it's you know, while it's still there, enjoy.

665
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite.

666
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: Musical number or musical guest from the show, or like

667
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: a memory that pops up in your mind?

668
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: There were so many. I mean, I'm looking like Hillary

669
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: and Haley Duff.

670
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: Well that was fun because then I did a movie

671
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: with Hillary afterwards.

672
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: It was really fun.

673
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: It was not related, but it was friends to have

674
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: seen that happen. I mean, okay, and we had Paris

675
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: Hilton on American two. Oh my god, she played I

676
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Dream of Jeanie.

677
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: Wow.

678
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: For Love Hewitt was great.

679
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Morris said, are you kidding? Okay, So this

680
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: is what's weird.

681
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: I saw Alenis Morris at on the list that she

682
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: must have been, but I don't understand because I think

683
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: I would have flipped out. So maybe I just deleted

684
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: that from my memory because I remember then filming Waiting

685
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: After and knowing that at the time she was dating

686
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds. I just thought all day, every day Alanis

687
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: might come to set, Alana's might come to set, And

688
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: then I remember one time she came to set, and

689
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: I remember just looking at her from afar and feeling frozen.

690
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: So when I saw Alanis's name on that list that

691
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: was on American Celebrities on American Dreams, I was very

692
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: confused and a little regretful that I didn't make a more.

693
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: Or maybe I did and I've just blacked it out.

694
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'll say I'll say that I'll

695
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: say that all of the artists were amazing. I'm I'm

696
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: struggling to think of my favorite. I think Macy Gray

697
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: was on that was fun. Wow, there were so many.

698
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: And then I will say that two things that stand

699
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: out as my as my most starstruck moments are Jonathan

700
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Taylor Thomas came and auditioned for American Dreams once. And

701
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: when I found that out, I was such a home

702
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: improvement fan. And when I found that out, I couldn't

703
00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep thinking that he was coming JTT. I

704
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: mean I was, I get it myself, and I get

705
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: a Jonathan Prince and David Sammil to let me be

706
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: in the audition room when he came in. Begged them

707
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: and they let me, which I don't think they should

708
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: have because I was so nervous that I hid under

709
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: a blanket on the couch in the room. I mean, obviously,

710
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's a human there's a human person under

711
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: that blanket. But I was so excited and nervous. I

712
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: didn't talk him. I just killed I didn't I just listened.

713
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: It was so weird, so weird, so weird. So that happened,

714
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: and that was a very peak moment for me. And

715
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: then when my levent Timkeley, I joined the show. Oh

716
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: my gosh, I was such a fan of Gilmore Girls

717
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: and I thought I just thought he was everything and

718
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: the Beasnies. Yeah, and he joined the show and then

719
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: he was so nice on top of it. It was

720
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: like the best. So those were my two they were

721
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: they didn't sing, neither of them perform, so, oh my gosh.

722
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So Alani Systine looks like it was at a cafe.

723
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like a bandstand performance, so maybe that

724
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: is why it's not as in your memory.

725
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: That's to be fair. Kevin and I don't remember.

726
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: Like core scenes from glean they were like we were there,

727
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: So it's okay, okay, it's a coping mechanism, I think.

728
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: And there's also a lot of days okay.

729
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: I agree about the coping mechanism part. Like Yestine is very.

730
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 2: Young, there's a lot happening so actually underage, Like that's

731
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: like I forget we were so treated like we were

732
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: supposed to be adults and we were just children children.

733
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's also part of it. Right, you're you're technically

734
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: were you working adults or did you guys have like

735
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 3: limits on time and stuff like that, like a kid,

736
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: do you remember, because I know, like for said, like

737
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: when a kid comes, they you know.

738
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: I made a deal with them that I would get

739
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: emancipated as long as they promised to continue my schooling

740
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: as if I wasn't, so I could work more hours.

741
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: But then I also had to work more. Yeah, full time. God,

742
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: because if you're emancipated, you don't have to do school.

743
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: The deal was, I want to.

744
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: Do school, so they would pay for the school that

745
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: you continued school.

746
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: But I wanted to work longer hours.

747
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that is crazy.

748
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: It is crazy.

749
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: It is crazy.

750
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: I know a lot of kids who got emancipated the school.

751
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I got my emancipation. Wait, no, I think I had emancipatient.

752
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: And then I went to this school, this school that

753
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: you did your work remotely, and it was the same

754
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: school that justin Timberlake went to. I remember thinking that was,

755
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean, very cool. I graduated from the same screen

756
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: Floridian Actor High school that justin Timberlake.

757
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: So you guys didn't have like school on set. We

758
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: did have school on set. You did, because.

759
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: Did Brity get him? No, I don't remember her having

760
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: school shorter hours? No, No, we both want to know. Oh, Yeah,

761
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: some of our favorite memories to talk about each other

762
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: is uh, school set school such.

763
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: Very weird time. It's a very weird times. Yes, definitely.

764
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: It's for people who don't really know you're if you're

765
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: under a certain age and you don't go to school,

766
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: but you work on set. They bring in a teacher

767
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: and you have a certain amount of hours that you

768
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: have to feel we're doing school while also working like

769
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: a professional.

770
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: That's like, it's very exhausting. You don't get any rest.

771
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: You have to do no rest, no rest, And we

772
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: can remember what the school room smelled like. Not good guys.

773
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: They just like set up a school room for you guys, like,

774
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: oh my god, the musty back room than you did.

775
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, incredible.

776
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: We didn't really talk have the show, but it's it

777
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: touches on. No, No, it's just like this wonderful family

778
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: surrounding like Megan Pryor and Meg Pryor and her dream

779
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: to be on Bandstand and you help her do that

780
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: by making out with boys and being fun and teaching

781
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: her the things that she every teenage girl should should

782
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: have fun and learn how to liberate themselves. And it's

783
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: just really wonderful and it's the obviously the music, and

784
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: they had heat Wave by Martha and the and the vandellas.

785
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: Don't Worry Baby the Beach Boy is my favorite one

786
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: fine day. Of course, the Lady's choice stands and dancing

787
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: in the street.

788
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: I mean, what a what a selection for the pilot too.

789
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: Let's crade the music, let's grade. I think they all

790
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: get a pluses for me. But yes, I think that

791
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: Don't Worry Baby gets an extray plus for me, A

792
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: plus plus for Don't Worry Me, A plus plus me

793
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: plus plus. We do tarty takes, we can do Sugar

794
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: and Tina takes today auchies, so cringe moments of the show.

795
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: Things that don't age well. Obviously you touched on women

796
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: not really having a real say, and you know, kind

797
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: of this alpha man of the house and you know

798
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: it's up to your dad, and you know, you're like, WHOA.

799
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well the decision should be fifty

800
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: to fifty, but here we are. And then you guys

801
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: changing in bras was that like crazy at fifteen? Like

802
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: showing your was that so crazy for you? I would

803
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: have been like, I don't know.

804
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, just take me through what you would have felt

805
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: take me.

806
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's like, I'm like, I don't,

807
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: how do you even shoot that and feel that comfortable?

808
00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 2: And your character is so confident, confident, thank you, And

809
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: yet you're like, I'm fifteen on this brand new show

810
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: in this adult world, that I'm still a kid.

811
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm still a kid.

812
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just I would just say that I'm

813
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: still untangling. I'm still entangling a life of doing things,

814
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: even though I was not equipped and did not have

815
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: the capacity to process or understand and did not have

816
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: the choice to say no, to say no like I

817
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: and and I have. And that's such a privileged thing

818
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: to say. I'm like, so happy with this career, so

819
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: happy with my life, so happy with everything. And I mean,

820
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: the definition of trauma is when something happens that's outside

821
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: of your capacity to process it. And I just feel

822
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: like that happens so often. Sure, And then an auchi

823
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: or cringe moment. Do you do you remember while you

824
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: were watching the one of the camera men was flirting

825
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: with the girl the Bake the TV show who did

826
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: the cooking show. Then there was a scene with Meg

827
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: in the hallway where he kind of made eyes at

828
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: her as she was looking at Flyers on the Wall.

829
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: I think that that is maybe like an auchi moment

830
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: or a cringe moment, but also represented a part of

831
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: the industry that that outlived the sixties that I still

832
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: feel like ex we experienced in the early two thousands, transcendent,

833
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: transcendent auchi, an auchi that continues to agree, hurt and

834
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: make me feel icky, but like, you know.

835
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, best dance move.

836
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: I think you guys dancing on bandstand.

837
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: I love the Britney snow. She does this iconic snap

838
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: and palm up snap and she like kind of does

839
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: a side smile and in her recent press for the

840
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Amazing Million shows she's on right now because she's just

841
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: killing it, killing it. I don't know even where I

842
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: saw this, but she's dancing down a hallway of employees

843
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: on some some.

844
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: Oh it's like the Jennifer.

845
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: See something like that, and I'm like, she's.

846
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: Doing it, She's doing it the iconic.

847
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: I love that is that is so brit that's so iconic,

848
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: that is so burned into my memory and feels I

849
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: feel filled with joy when I see it. I felt

850
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: I felt filled with joy when I saw her dancing

851
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: yesterday and she's just such a light and her sweet

852
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: eyes convey so much and there's so much and delight

853
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 1: that comes through her on the show.

854
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 3: Agreed, okay, best song I say.

855
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: Don't worry Baby, Okay sounds.

856
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: Great performance by a prop, So we're your favorite prop

857
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: that was used.

858
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: We always ate real food on the show. I don't

859
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: know if you noticed that, but I'm eating it when

860
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: I say the string beans are scrumptious. At the dinner table,

861
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: they made you eat. Yeah, we ate the show, so

862
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: you I was always eating. I think there were a

863
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: few characters who just shuffled the food around on their plate,

864
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: which was probably smarter, but they had because the prop

865
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: person would have to reset the plate exactly to the

866
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: scene amount of food every time.

867
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: Well, isn't that after You're always like, do I want

868
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: to be chewing during this all the time?

869
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: Do I want to do one hundred takes while I'm chewing?

870
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: I did made the mistaken ugly once and I was

871
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: eating chips in a scene and my mouth was the

872
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: roof of my mouth was going on. By the time

873
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 2: we finished that scene, I was like, please, no more.

874
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you only make that mistake a few times. No,

875
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: cigarettes was interesting. So it was also a fifteen year

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Speaker 1: old smoking cigarettes. They were clothes cigarettes, And I think

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Speaker 1: the funny thing about that was I was so anti

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Speaker 1: smoking when I was younger. I would volunteer. I would

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Speaker 1: go home, I would make anti smoking posters and put

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Speaker 1: them up at my school by myself. Nobody asked me to.

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00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: Just thought i'd help a little, you know, yeah, PSA

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00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: about smoking and what it does. And I'm like, twelve,

883
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: what am I doing? And so it was so funny

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00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: that my character smoked, having been so against smoking. Ironic

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00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 2: And anti smoking.

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00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: I mean, so I would say that was that was

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00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. Okay, a prop.

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00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: Those cigarettes also the priest smoking. Everybody's smoking, everybody's But

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00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: that was that was it? Like some they smoked in airplanes,

891
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: they smoked in the restaurants, they smoked.

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00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: Can you believe lied?

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00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the yes, yes, okay, best line okay obviously

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Speaker 2: what you never seen a braw before?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: And then and then she brings it back later. I

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00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is good.

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Speaker 3: Is cute.

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Speaker 1: I also really liked the line. This one had me

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Speaker 1: feel a lot of emotion. Yesterday, Tom Verica's character who

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00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: plays the dad he's grounding Meg. He's telling her how

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00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: bad her punishment is because she lied and she she went,

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00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: you know, against his authority, authority, and he goes, you're

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Speaker 1: grounded for a week. You're going to it for the

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Speaker 1: first thing. You're grounded for two more weeks and you're

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Speaker 1: ground it for four weeks or whatever. And then he goes,

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Speaker 1: you can only go from here to school to church,

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00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: and they get to pauses and says, and you can

909
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: go to bandstand. But that's it.

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00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: And oh it was so good emotions. I know it

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00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: was the first time for the father that I was like, okay,

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00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: all right, sir, right, you're redeemed a little bit.

913
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Speaker 1: His character is so trouble and he plays it so well.

914
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Speaker 1: By the way, Tom Verica could not be a nicer

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00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: human being. I love this guy to this day. He

916
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Speaker 1: sends me messages when good things happened to me, like

917
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Speaker 1: with little hearts and emojis.

918
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

919
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: But by the way, genius. And I think he's a

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00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: genius actor because he he conveys this this grumpy dad

921
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: that I think was very good because it made people

922
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: feel a lot. Either you related to it because you

923
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: had a grumpy dad, or overbearing, whatever the word is.

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00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he was wonderful.

925
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: Performance. MVP.

926
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Speaker 2: Vanessa. I think you and Brittania definitely are.

927
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: I also love will Stes who plays JJ. He plays

928
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: the teen. Yes, he does so little and you feel

929
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: so much. You know, He's like, I just I mean,

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00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: just feel it. Wow, I just said nothing, but but

931
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Speaker 1: I did I felt something. Yeah, exactly. He did so

932
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: little and yet so I give him. I give him.

933
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Speaker 1: I think the priest was very.

934
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was shook, shocking, it was shook by him. Yeah, Okay, Vanessa,

935
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Speaker 2: we ask everybody what is the feeling that he leaves

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Speaker 2: are with?

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00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: What is the feeling that American Dreams lead you with?

938
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: Nostalgia? Warmth?

939
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 2: Uh uh, yeah.

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00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a lot of feelings. I feel plump

941
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: with moisture, either tears of joy and tears of or

942
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: Canadian rain. Okay, Canadian rain. Thank you exactly right.

943
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Speaker 2: Well, Vanessa, thanks for joining us for this wonderful recap

944
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Speaker 2: of your show American Dreams. And what a joy it

945
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 2: was to watch this show. I feel like I got

946
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: to know you in a different life which I didn't

947
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 2: know about, and I really enjoyed this pilot, So thanks

948
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: for joining us, Thanks for asking me too. You guys,

949
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Speaker 2: Vanessa's going to be back with us on Thursday, so

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00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: you get more Vanessa again. You guys submitted questions for her,

951
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: so she's going to be answering all of these fun questions. Hey,

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00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: and that's what you.

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Speaker 1: Really miss Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram

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Speaker 1: to write us a review and leave us five stars.

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