WEBVTT - I'm Just a Bill with Bill Nye 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:01.640 Man, what's hand him? 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:01.840 Man? 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.480 You got Marshaw Besmall Lynch, Doug Hendrickson. 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.400 And Gavin Knewsome and you're listening to politics. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:09.680 You're known to be, you're known to. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:21.079 Be well, got I gotta be honest with you. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.560 I'm really kind of sick and tired of people talking 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.840 negative about some places in California. I just did the 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:31.120 drive from my office in La down to beautiful San 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.680 Luis Obispo to see my daughter uh and the great 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.760 cal Poly volleyball team. And let me tell you something, 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.200 it is God's country. And then I drove from there 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.879 all the way back home today. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:45.880 Are you just trying to get Father of the Year? 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:47.720 Is that what you're trying to really communicate? 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:48.400 Well? 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:49.200 Truth be told. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.159 You're you're not allowed to have your car as a 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.880 freshman on campus, and so because of that, I was 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.120 told to go pick up her car, and so I 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.960 made the little quick tray chip down there, took it 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.400 a nice little dinner, had coffee this morning, and then 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.360 got on my way, but spent about five hours enjoying 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.600 the beautiful coastline of California. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.040 It is it's spectator. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:13.839 There's no easy way to get down to cal Poly 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.360 though from the Bay Area, so that was again you 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.440 get extra brownie points. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.120 For being that of the year. 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.560 Shout out to United There's three flights a day, so 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.280 there's that as an alternative. By the way, what is 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.040 it they don't let freshmen can't have cars now on 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.399 CSU campuses or is that just a cal Poly issue. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.840 I don't know if it's a CSU. I know it's 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:33.360 cal Poly. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.080 So if you're a freshman, you cannot have a car 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.640 on campus, which is not the worst thing in the 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.440 world for a father to not have your daughter have 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:40.880 a car. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.440 So I'm not that bummed up out it out. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.880 And you're just saying cal Poly like people use the 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:50.160 word Harvard and Princeton, because you're proud of the fact 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.520 your daughter got into cal Poly San Luis Obispo, by 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.600 the way, which has a lot of people that were 0:01:55.640 --> 0:02:00.800 also accepted into Stanford rejecting Stanford go to cal Poly. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.640 San Luis Obispo one of our best state schools, one 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.120 of the best state schools in the country. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:06.800 No, it's great. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.080 And by the way, Gavin, on a brighter note too, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.079 since our co hosts be joined us today, they did 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:17.480 come out today with the first time the list of 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.560 the Hall of Fame entries, and of course our partner 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.160 in crime, beach Mode, is on the initial list. Now 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:28.000 they whittle that down to twenty five semi finalists in 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.920 about a couple of months, and then to fifteen and 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.600 then they announce the final five. I believe it's super Bowl. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.959 So the next six seven months it's gonna be pretty interesting. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:38.960 Here we go here with him. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.320 Well, so on a, is this like these Hall of 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.760 Fame things for sports? Is it like you know the 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:48.440 Oscars and Saga? I mean where everybody's like you're hustling 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.320 and your lobbying and your marketing, you're promoting or is 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.360 this thing that's already sort of figured out? Or is 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:56.959 are you're able to influence folks? 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.360 No, nothing to promote. 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.000 They figured out the writer's vote and so there's nothing 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.080 to promote. There's nothing to It's not like an Oscar 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.639 and Emmy. So it just comes down to how many 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.120 people that let in. But he should. He should be 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.120 one of the guys and it would be a fun. 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:11.280 Ride for us. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:12.880 How many people are on this first list? 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.919 There's like fifteen new guys that would make sense. There's 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.240 eighty five guys, there's fifteen people that make sense. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.160 And how long you stay on the list is it 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:22.400 roll over if you don't get it? 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:23.960 Ten years? 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.280 Ten years and then you're kicked out because you're kicked out. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.160 Just so this first year of eligibility, he's on there. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.120 Big deal, Big deal. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.400 What are the running backs? Any new ones on the fifteen? 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.320 Well, the last two running backs to get in were 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.160 Ega and James and I think Fred Taylor in. 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.000 Twenty and twenty one. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.720 There hasn't been a back in four years that have 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.680 gotten in, so he would be, you know, one of 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:46.040 the first. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:47.840 Who are the other ones on the list that have 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:48.560 been rolled over? 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.080 His former former Seattle great Shawan Alexander, Remember Sean Alexander? 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.960 Yep, Well done, Marshall, Gavin. 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.520 How's your week on what's going on in your life? 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:57.360 Is we bill signing? 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.880 Bill signing nine hundred and ninety one bills, nine hundred 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.240 and ninety one bottle and nine hundred and ninety one 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.920 bills one of the Yeah, I think there were twelve 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:11.200 hundred bills we got. This legislative session started the week 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.240 with nine hundred ninety one left to go, tons of 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.240 AI bills, tons of social media bills across the spectrum, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.920 you name it, there must be nine or ninety one 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.159 problems to solve. So I got to review all of these. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.680 They'll probably, you know, be dozens and dozens, maybe hundreds 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.880 of vetos. We're gotting through the vetos right now. But 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.680 that's the week that's consuming me. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.000 Well, got Well, I got a question, if I, as 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.359 a person wanted to create a bill, how does someone 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.760 create a bill for someone to get it signed. 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.239 Well, you saw that, you saw that. You know exactly 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:43.440 how the schoolhouse rock. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.159 It's just a bill on Capitol Hill, exhausted trying to 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:48.279 walk up the steps. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:49.680 You remember that growing up, right? 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.039 I missed that week in school? So can you edify me? 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:53.920 You don't even know how it works now. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.320 The only thing missing with a bill on Capitol Hill 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.840 schoolhouse rock or the lobbyists that was the only thing 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.200 they didn't tell you about back in the day. Now, 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.520 bills come in many different shapes and forms, but fundamentally 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:10.600 they flow through either by the author meaning the legislatword themselves. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:15.080 So if you're assembly person why or your senator Z, 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.520 you introduce it because you solve a problem you want 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.200 to fix it, or you read a constituent's node, or 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.400 you had someone call complaining. You said, you know what, 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.000 Madam Smith, I'm going to fix this for you. I'm 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.240 going to introduce a bill in the next legislative session. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:31.680 Or they come often through groups and organizations that try 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.200 to find an author and they basically go out and 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.760 shop an idea and say here's something we want you 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.279 to fix, or here's a loophole we want you to close. 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.640 And that's where you start getting the lobbyists. That's where 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.160 you get all the special interest and that's where people 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.600 oftentimes are sort of protecting their own interests and locking 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:48.680 out other people's interests. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.359 And that's what I always have to keep my eye on. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:55.640 Is this about incumbency protection or is this about what's 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.760 in the best interest in California and our innovation. So 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:03.000 it's a to which you look positively, but also oftentimes 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:04.320 with little cynicism as well. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.880 Well. Is there any bills, Gavin, Like a mother who 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.359 has an issue with something or whatever and decides to 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.679 write a bill. It doesn't have a lobbyist, doesn't have votes, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.120 and just presents the bill to you. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.040 Not only that, we've got some heartwarming ones this year 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:21.680 there's an intern, this young girl that interned for one 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.000 legislator and literally came up with an idea through her 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:29.400 internship and got her boss introduce it and got it 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.440 through both House of the Legislature. It's on my desk, 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.200 and she keeps sending me these amazing videos. And then 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.680 her parents reached out saying I'm proud they were of 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.080 their daughter, which of course got me teared up. But 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.320 I love that, like an intern coming up with an idea, 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.920 and it's like one of those I don't know, that's 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.080 what it should be about. You know, real people doing 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.960 real things to solve real problems. And now she's just 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.279 hoping I don't screw it all up and send it 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.920 back unsigned, which is another way of saying. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:57.960 Veto, I love it. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.600 Okay, good, but it's me and it's you know. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.920 Look, remember California is the size of twenty one state 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.480 populations combined, so there are all kinds of issues from 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:07.039 every GM. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.720 How many in comparison, how many bills in my dad's 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.400 great state of North Dakota, or they think on the desk, 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:14.640 I don't know. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:20.400 But I mean, yeah, these legislators are all across the 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.080 country active, They don't meet every year a lot of states, 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.200 and they don't have sessions that last as long as ours. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.680 I mean, i'll give you example. In Texas, they have 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.840 a session every two years. In California, we're just basically 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.920 full time every year. So we're active and we're busy. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.240 But the other big thing that's animating us right now 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:39.560 is not just nine on our bills. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:40.520 But I'm in the middle of. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.960 A special session, which means I extended the legislative calendar 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.960 with one issue, and that's issue deal with the issue 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.080 of price gouging and oil companies and what's going on 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.280 with gas prices here in California that impact gas prices 0:07:55.520 --> 0:08:00.760 across the Western United States, particularly in Nevada and places 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.840 like Arizona. And so it's a big deal, high stakes 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.600 and uh, and we're going to battle with our friends 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.840 at big Oil good And I just I was. I 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.000 was in a hotel last night. 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.600 I was watching some Oprah's out there stumping for Kama 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:14.360 right now, did. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.400 Some big special with a bunch of a list people. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.800 Correct. Yeah, we're flooding the zone. I mean, this is 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:19.360 this is it. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.720 I mean, this is the sprint We're going to get 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.840 early voting now nationally across the country. Uh So we 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.120 always say about we talk about elections in November, that 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.440 the election ends in November election Day in many states 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.080 as well as a month before. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.280 Uh election ends. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:41.000 That first week of November, so early voting, absentee ballots. 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.440 And I'll have opportunity to make your case now. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.280 Now, outside of Taylor Swift, is Oprah probably the second 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.400 most powerful and of course Obama and Clinton in them, I. 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.840 Was always Oprah was the dominant. She's still in many respects. 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.760 Is Taylor Swift maybe right up there with her. But yeah, 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.120 those are the two biggest gets in polat and uh 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.439 that's why Trump was still taken aback by it and 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.920 got so bent out of shape not getting Taylor Swift. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.480 But Oprah is still a force, next level force in 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.719 American politics. And as she said at the town hall 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.679 with Harris yesterday, she's she's an independent. I mean, she's 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.280 she's not. And I know I've got to know her 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.400 pretty well, Sarr. Last week in fact, in New York 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.319 we were both on a CBS morning show. She's fabulous, 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:32.560 she's tough, and she's incredibly bright and studied on all 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.640 things politics, and she doesn't just dial it in if 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.720 you're a Democrat. She tends to vote Democratic, but that's 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.199 on their social issues and uh, and so she's all 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:43.040 in for Kama Harris. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.199 And that was a big deal yesterday. They raised a. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.880 Ton of money, but more poor than they got, a 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.800 lot of new eyeballs meeting, a lot of people tuned 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.480 in and a lot of people that have been tuned 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.360 out of politics tend to tune in to politics when 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.840 Taylor Swift talks about it and when people like Oprah 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:00.360 Winfrey can understate, uh, the importance of those those those 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.760 influencers that celebrity support. But it's a little more than 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.720 just celebrity support with Oprah because she's earned a different 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.079 relationship of trust with the public over decades. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.200 And so it was a big day. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.120 Well in the reality, Gavin is like we talked about, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.000 people just need to go out and vote, and that's 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.160 the thing that's going to change things at the local level, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.800 the state level, in the national level. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:22.559 And just go vote. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.200 If you want to vote for Trump, vote for him, 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:25.560 you want to vote for comm to vote for it, 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:26.800 But go vote. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.560 Yeah, and do a voice and do the research. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.240 Don't just be I mean as important as celebrity endorsements are, right, 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:32.800 I think it's more important. I mean, at least that 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.160 wakes you up to All right, there's a campaign in it, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.400 and there's a candidate, but it's critical that people look 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.320 at the issues and see if they match where the candidates. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.160 Are and issues that you care about. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:43.760 I mean, we're going to be talking to Bill nine 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.559 a moment, the science guy, and it's all about science 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.680 and sciences, discovering critical thinking. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:51.760 It's not about being an idy log. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.040 It's about being open argument, interested in evidence, and it's 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.480 about dealing with issues of our time like climate. 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:58.880 And Bill and Bill is in the room right now, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:00.679 let's bring Bill on. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.080 We could talk about importance of voting we don't even 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.480 have to be political about it, and the importance of 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.600 science and whether or not science is on the ballot 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:09.320 this year as well. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.319 What I want to do, Gavin and uh and for 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.640 our partner Morshawn here is to welcome literally an icon 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.040 in his field in the world, a graduate of the 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.840 great Cornell University, Gavin something you and I could not 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:33.360 get into. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.559 No, who has written dozens of books. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.400 I wish I had them when I was a kid 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.880 because all my kids grew up on it with Bill nine. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.520 In terms of his education, he's a former mechanical engineer 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:49.560 for hosting the unbelievable TV show of Better Understanding and 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:54.360 Appreciation for the ruld around us, a legendary science educator, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.959 the great, the Great Bill Nye. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:58.560 Welcome to Politic and Bill. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.240 It's so good to be here. And let me just say, 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.400 Marshawn Lynch is out here right somewhere. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.520 Yeah, he's he's he's literally finishing up filming. He's gonna 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.600 jump on as soon as he possibly can. 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.880 But I know you're a Seattle kid exactly. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.520 Man, I'm a Seahawks fan. This. I saw him play. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.680 I was in the stadium a half dozen times. I 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.319 saw him play on the TV countless times countless. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:23.920 Yeah, he'll be joining us, and Bill. 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.040 He was so excited to know you're coming on and 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.000 uh and going back to We'll break We'll save that. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.120 But I know that seismic run he had in the 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.400 Beast quake is something you probably looked at and studied 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:34.360 as well. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:39.040 Correct, because I'm looking for his moves, you know, I 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.120 mean the way I'm built. You know, I think he's 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:43.320 really a model for me. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:44.160 There you go. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.960 Guys, with my physique, I just do I could do 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:48.600 what he did. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.680 I think, Bill, Yeah, I've always I've looked at you 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.520 and I've always saw you know, you and him or 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:54.240 him and you. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.120 I mean, it's yeah, I know. Yeah. So we're going 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:01.520 to talk about science and governing and these wonderful things, all. 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:02.320 These wonderful things. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:03.920 And you know, Doug and I were talking before you 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.439 got on a little bit about you know, what's what's 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.120 going on, not from a partisan perspective or lens in 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.439 our body politic with elections coming up, not just presidential 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.240 elections but elections in every state, local school board races, 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.120 et cetera. But we seriously were talking about critical thinking. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.040 We were talking about being open argument, interested in evidence, 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.080 not being ideological. And what a great segue to your 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.040 career and the work you've done looking at data, looking 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.520 at facts, looking through the lens of science, and maybe 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.839 we can just take it from there on some of 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.520 the issues that define our times now, least of which 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.520 the most important issue for me that we battle every day, 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.439 and that's climate change in California. 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.400 Climate change in California. And let me say congratulations, Governor. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.800 I believe I have this number right, one hundred consecutive 0:13:53.920 --> 0:14:00.520 days with some fraction of the grid running on renewable power. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.480 It's I mean, it's remarkable that you even know that 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.400 we got to one hundred and six days in this 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.960 calendar year. This is unprecedented, running the fifth largest economy 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.040 in the world on a carbon free engine for at least, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.440 as you say, some part of the day proving bill 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.400 not just asserting proving, we can get this done. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:27.360 Absolutely. And you know, my thing is the US Constitution. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:32.080 And I met many people, as I like to say, 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:37.800 you can get it in paperback now, many people. As 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:43.560 a CEO of the nonprofit, I have gone to Congressional 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:48.320 offices many times, Senate offices many times. I've met senators, 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:52.840 members of Congress who know the Constitution, took an oath 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.960 to it, and so on, and they're generally familiar with 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.280 Article one, where we're going to have a Senate and 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.840 a House of Presentatives the way they do in Britain 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.600 with their household lords and their Commons. But I've met 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:09.640 a lot of people who don't know Section eight, Clause eight. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:15.120 Clause eight Congress shall promote the progress of science and 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:20.920 useful arts. Useful word science is in the Constitution, peoples, 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.840 and useful arts. To me, Governor Doug is using science 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.640 to make things engineering. What would we do in seventeen 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.000 eighty six, We build a bridge, We'd make a plow, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.280 some harness for a horse. We might have the elements 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.120 of a steam engine. We'd be doing that, and that 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:47.680 would be the useful arts of science. So the founding fathers, 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.880 whatever else one might say about them, realize the value 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.680 of science for the health and well being of citizenry 0:15:55.760 --> 0:16:01.000 and for our international competitiveness, even in seventeen eighty six. 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.400 And Bill, it's interesting and I love that you bring 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:04.680 that up. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.280 I mean, the idea that science is in the Constitution 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.560 is something that vast majority of us are unfamiliar with. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.840 I mean, what were you? I did? Was this intuitive? 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.680 Did you grow up and then you were reading at 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.600 sixth grade that the Constitution and sol the word science 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.760 are even you, mister science guy? 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:23.600 Did you come to this later in life? 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.680 Oh no, it was pointed out to me a long 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.000 time ago. But the guy who really drove it on 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.240 for me is John Morris. You know Laurie Leshan? 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.440 Yeah, why do I know that name? 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.520 She's head of the Jet proportion lamp. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:36.920 That's it. 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:43.800 The first woman to head the famous JPL in Pasadena, California, 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:48.320 where they make spacecraft that land on Mars, and her 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.600 husband is a big fan of that. John Morris is 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:59.000 a big fan. He's a heliophysicist, senior of Stars and 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.600 he is a big of that passage. He pointed it 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.520 out to me twenty five years ago and it stuck 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:07.480 with me ever since. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.440 I love it. It should stick with all of us. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.760 And just you know, before Doug jumps in, Bill, I mean, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.480 you talk about that passage twenty five years ago, the 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:16.320 passage of time? 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:16.920 Did you. 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.920 I know, your parents obviously outsized influence, as they are 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.920 on all of our lives. But where this passion for science? 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.960 Did that come at an early age? Nature nurture? 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.000 Oh? Yeah, yeah, I mean, I say all the time. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:35.199 I've told this story many times. But let's say I 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:39.919 was four years old and we were playing cards, and 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:44.439 I'm going to claim we were playing Crazy eights, and 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.040 so maybe I was six years old, but I got 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.679 stung by a bee sitting on the front porch of 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.720 the house in Washington, BC. I got stung by a bee, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:59.840 which was traumatic, and then my mother resourcefully put a 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.160 ammonia on it. Now, this is back in the day. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.760 Everybody ammonia. If you don't know what it is, it's 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:09.359 what you smell when you smell wind decks and so 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.199 hardcore window cleaners such as my mom would buy. You 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.919 still can't buy a bottle of ammonia and dilute it 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.359 and clean windows, clean glass. But the thing is the 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.520 bottle has skull and crossbones on it. As my mother's 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.080 trying to kill me. And I was a rambunctious young boy. 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:32.040 I can understand where she'd want to do. That be interesting, 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:36.960 but yeah, yeah, she talked about it my whole life. Anyway, 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:43.120 it was fascinating. It denatured the venom somehow. And then 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.679 in Ripley's Believe it or Not in the Washington Post 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:51.840 newspaper it said one week. Actually they published a version 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.919 of it many times really over the years. According to 0:18:54.960 --> 0:19:02.280 aerynamic theory, bees cannot fly. And I remember, wait, wait, 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.720 the bees, the bees are flying. There's something wrong with 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.600 this theory of yours. And it really did give me 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.320 a lot of pause for thought. And then bees are fascinating. 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:19.040 I had a fascination with helicopters. I love bicycles. So 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:24.560 I became a mechanical engineer. And uh, Doug, I think 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:29.160 you read from a very very nice intro. But I'm 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:34.480 not a formal formal mechanical engineer. I have a licensee. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:35.800 You are mechanical engineer. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.600 Well, yes, Well what's interesting, Bill is Gavin I around 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.040 the same age, and so it's in Gavin's probably the 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.439 same way yours high school as well. In high school, 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.280 science wasn't cool. It was like you skip science class, 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.000