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Speaker 1: Man, what's hand him?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: You got Marshaw Besmall Lynch, Doug Hendrickson.

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Speaker 4: And Gavin Knewsome and you're listening to politics.

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Speaker 2: You're known to be, you're known to.

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Speaker 5: Be well, got I gotta be honest with you.

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Speaker 6: I'm really kind of sick and tired of people talking

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Speaker 6: negative about some places in California. I just did the

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Speaker 6: drive from my office in La down to beautiful San

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Speaker 6: cal Poly volleyball team. And let me tell you something,

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Speaker 6: it is God's country. And then I drove from there

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Speaker 6: all the way back home today.

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Speaker 7: Are you just trying to get Father of the Year?

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Speaker 7: Is that what you're trying to really communicate?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: Truth be told.

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Speaker 6: You're you're not allowed to have your car as a

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Speaker 6: freshman on campus, and so because of that, I was

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Speaker 6: told to go pick up her car, and so I

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Speaker 6: made the little quick tray chip down there, took it

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Speaker 6: a nice little dinner, had coffee this morning, and then

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Speaker 6: got on my way, but spent about five hours enjoying

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Speaker 6: the beautiful coastline of California.

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Speaker 4: It is it's spectator.

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Speaker 7: There's no easy way to get down to cal Poly

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Speaker 7: though from the Bay Area, so that was again you

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Speaker 7: get extra brownie points.

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Speaker 4: For being that of the year.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to United There's three flights a day, so

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Speaker 6: there's that as an alternative. By the way, what is

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Speaker 6: it they don't let freshmen can't have cars now on

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Speaker 6: CSU campuses or is that just a cal Poly issue.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's a CSU. I know it's

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Speaker 6: So if you're a freshman, you cannot have a car

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Speaker 6: on campus, which is not the worst thing in the

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Speaker 5: So I'm not that bummed up out it out.

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Speaker 7: And you're just saying cal Poly like people use the

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Speaker 7: word Harvard and Princeton, because you're proud of the fact

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Speaker 7: your daughter got into cal Poly San Luis Obispo, by

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Speaker 7: the way, which has a lot of people that were

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Speaker 7: also accepted into Stanford rejecting Stanford go to cal Poly.

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Speaker 7: San Luis Obispo one of our best state schools, one

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Speaker 7: of the best state schools in the country.

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Speaker 5: No, it's great.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, Gavin, on a brighter note too,

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Speaker 6: since our co hosts be joined us today, they did

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Speaker 6: come out today with the first time the list of

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Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame entries, and of course our partner

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Speaker 6: in crime, beach Mode, is on the initial list. Now

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Speaker 6: they whittle that down to twenty five semi finalists in

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Speaker 6: about a couple of months, and then to fifteen and

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Speaker 6: then they announce the final five. I believe it's super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: So the next six seven months it's gonna be pretty interesting.

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Speaker 5: Here we go here with him.

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Speaker 7: Well, so on a, is this like these Hall of

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Speaker 7: Fame things for sports? Is it like you know the

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Speaker 5: No, nothing to promote.

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Speaker 6: They figured out the writer's vote and so there's nothing

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Speaker 6: to promote. There's nothing to It's not like an Oscar

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Speaker 6: and Emmy. So it just comes down to how many

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Speaker 6: people that let in. But he should. He should be

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Speaker 5: Ride for us.

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Speaker 4: How many people are on this first list?

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Speaker 5: There's like fifteen new guys that would make sense. There's

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Speaker 5: eighty five guys, there's fifteen people that make sense.

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Speaker 4: And how long you stay on the list is it

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Speaker 5: Ten years?

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Speaker 7: Ten years and then you're kicked out because you're kicked out.

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Speaker 7: Just so this first year of eligibility, he's on there.

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Speaker 5: Big deal, Big deal.

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Speaker 4: What are the running backs? Any new ones on the fifteen?

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Speaker 6: Well, the last two running backs to get in were

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Speaker 5: Twenty and twenty one.

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Speaker 6: There hasn't been a back in four years that have

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Speaker 4: Who are the other ones on the list that have

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Speaker 6: His former former Seattle great Shawan Alexander, Remember Sean Alexander?

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Speaker 4: Yep, Well done, Marshall, Gavin.

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Speaker 5: How's your week on what's going on in your life?

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Speaker 4: Is we bill signing?

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Speaker 7: Bill signing nine hundred and ninety one bills, nine hundred

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Speaker 7: with nine hundred ninety one left to go, tons of

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Speaker 7: you name it, there must be nine or ninety one

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Speaker 7: problems to solve. So I got to review all of these.

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Speaker 7: They'll probably, you know, be dozens and dozens, maybe hundreds

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Speaker 7: of vetos. We're gotting through the vetos right now. But

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Speaker 7: that's the week that's consuming me.

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Speaker 6: Well, got Well, I got a question, if I, as

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Speaker 4: Well, you saw that, you saw that. You know exactly

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Speaker 7: It's just a bill on Capitol Hill, exhausted trying to

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Speaker 4: You remember that growing up, right?

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Speaker 5: I missed that week in school? So can you edify me?

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Speaker 4: You don't even know how it works now.

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Speaker 7: The only thing missing with a bill on Capitol Hill

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Speaker 7: they flow through either by the author meaning the legislatword themselves.

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Speaker 7: So if you're assembly person why or your senator Z,

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Speaker 7: Or they come often through groups and organizations that try

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Speaker 7: And that's where you start getting the lobbyists. That's where

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Speaker 4: And that's what I always have to keep my eye on.

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Speaker 7: Is this about incumbency protection or is this about what's

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Speaker 7: it's a to which you look positively, but also oftentimes

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Speaker 6: Well. Is there any bills, Gavin, Like a mother who

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Speaker 7: Not only that, we've got some heartwarming ones this year

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Speaker 7: there's an intern, this young girl that interned for one

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Speaker 7: and she keeps sending me these amazing videos. And then

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Speaker 7: I love that, like an intern coming up with an idea,

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Speaker 7: what it should be about. You know, real people doing

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Speaker 7: hoping I don't screw it all up and send it

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Speaker 4: Veto, I love it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, good, but it's me and it's you know.

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Speaker 7: Look, remember California is the size of twenty one state

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Speaker 6: How many in comparison, how many bills in my dad's

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Speaker 7: But I mean, yeah, these legislators are all across the

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Speaker 7: But the other big thing that's animating us right now

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Speaker 4: But I'm in the middle of.

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Speaker 7: A special session, which means I extended the legislative calendar

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Speaker 6: I was watching some Oprah's out there stumping for Kama

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Speaker 5: Some big special with a bunch of a list people.

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Speaker 4: Correct. Yeah, we're flooding the zone. I mean, this is

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is the sprint We're going to get

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Speaker 4: Uh election ends.

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Speaker 7: That first week of November, so early voting, absentee ballots.

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Speaker 7: And I'll have opportunity to make your case now.

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Speaker 6: Now, outside of Taylor Swift, is Oprah probably the second

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Speaker 7: But Oprah is still a force, next level force in

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Speaker 4: And that was a big deal yesterday. They raised a.

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Speaker 6: What I want to do, Gavin and uh and for

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Speaker 5: No, who has written dozens of books.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to Politic and Bill.

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Speaker 2: It's so good to be here. And let me just say,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's he's he's literally finishing up filming. He's gonna

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll be joining us, and Bill.

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Speaker 2: Correct, because I'm looking for his moves, you know, I

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Speaker 7: And you know, Doug and I were talking before you

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Speaker 2: Climate change in California. And let me say congratulations, Governor.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. And you know, my thing is the US Constitution.

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Speaker 2: remember Beakman's World? Oh yeah, yeah. So Beakman's World did

442
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Speaker 2: a very reasonable thing, which was, look at this cool thing,

443
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Speaker 2: look at this cool thing. Here's another cool thing, look

444
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: at this and it jumped from topic to topic. And

445
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Speaker 2: if you're interested in science, you enjoy it, but you

446
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: don't get what educators call that, they have a technical

447
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Speaker 2: expression for it. You don't get lift. You don't really

448
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Speaker 2: increase your knowledge unless you come to it with an

449
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Speaker 2: interest in it. So we had the benefit of this

450
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Speaker 2: research back in the twentieth century, back in the nineteen hundreds,

451
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Speaker 2: and we made every show about one thing, and everybody

452
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Speaker 2: talks about the arc. So each show, each half hour,

453
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: is about one thing. So it's dinosaurs, dinosaurs, dinosaurs, it's structure, structure, structures, erosion, erosion, erosion,

454
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Speaker 2: and you get more lifts. And this week, you know,

455
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Speaker 2: we had, how to say, very compelling research sponsored by

456
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Speaker 2: the National Science Foundation and the National Educational organization National

457
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Speaker 2: Science Teach studied it and it's very as compelling. So

458
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Speaker 2: thank you. We put our hearts and souls in it.

459
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Speaker 2: We arrived in the universe at a time when the

460
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Speaker 2: Children's Television Act had been created and so station television

461
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Speaker 2: stations were required to have two three hours of educational

462
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Speaker 2: programming every week.

463
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Speaker 7: To destroyed TV and entertainment.

464
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Speaker 2: Networks had to print money. And then all of a sudden.

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Speaker 5: But so, Billy, it's interesting.

466
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm a big believer, so is the governor

467
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Speaker 6: here that you know, life is short and we got

468
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Speaker 6: to live it. So you pivot from probably making great

469
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Speaker 6: money at Boeing to say, I want to start my

470
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Speaker 6: own science TV show.

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Speaker 2: I had a Volkswagen bug I did.

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Speaker 4: Hey, those were hot back in the day.

473
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Speaker 2: So seriously, guys, when you got out of engineering school

474
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Speaker 2: you could in those days, you could get a job.

475
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Speaker 2: It was not you know, there was demand. I mean

476
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Speaker 2: it was like, as I say, it was a vocational

477
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 2: school where you learn to do homework problems. I got

478
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Speaker 2: paid to do homework frogs. I love math, Governor, I

479
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: love science. Anyway, I was also I was a new

480
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Speaker 2: guy in Seattle. I got a job in Seattle. I

481
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Speaker 2: was really interested in mountain climbing, and I got a

482
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Speaker 2: job in an area where you can drive to glaciers

483
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Speaker 2: in the Seattle area in those days, so I climbed

484
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Speaker 2: a bunch of local peaks and this and that, and

485
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Speaker 2: I was new in town, so I was a United

486
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Speaker 2: Way big brother, you know what I mean. And I

487
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Speaker 2: volunteered at the Pacific Science Center, which is still there,

488
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Speaker 2: a venerable institution built in nineteen sixty two for the

489
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Speaker 2: Seattle World's Fair. And I'd wear a vest and I

490
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: would pour liquid nitrogen around in the Senate. And after

491
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Speaker 2: winning in seat only in Seattle, I won the Steve

492
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Speaker 2: Martin lookalike contest. I started doing or trying to do

493
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Speaker 2: stand up comedy, and I met these guys and it's

494
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Speaker 2: rosschef for John Keister, and they asked me to submit

495
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 2: jokes to this comedy show. So I did, and then

496
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Speaker 2: eventually I quit my day job October third, nineteen eighty six, roughly,

497
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Speaker 2: and tried to pursue this comedy full time. But what

498
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Speaker 2: was gnawing at me was the kids. The kids today,

499
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Speaker 2: it's we have to get young people excited about science,

500
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Speaker 2: that's the deal. And so we had also in those days,

501
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Speaker 2: we had research that ten years old is about as

502
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Speaker 2: old as you can be to get what they call

503
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Speaker 2: the lifelong passion for science, and I think it's as

504
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Speaker 2: old as you can be to be the life want

505
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Speaker 2: to get the lifelong passion or anything? My governor, when

506
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Speaker 2: did you want to run stuff when you were a

507
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Speaker 2: little kid? Right? You wanted to be a leader? Uh?

508
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 2: And then Doug, when did you want to tell stories?

509
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: Probably from the giddest of get goes? And so we

510
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: had made the Science Sky Show deliberately at people in

511
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Speaker 2: fourth grade, ten years old and younger, because that's what

512
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Speaker 2: the research indicated would be the most effective age at

513
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Speaker 2: which to aim. So we had benefit of research, we

514
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: had these these things came together, and I went for

515
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Speaker 2: the car, as we say on the game show, Well

516
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Speaker 2: you went.

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Speaker 6: You went for the car, and you not only got

518
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Speaker 6: the limo, you also got the yacht. So I appreciate

519
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Speaker 6: what you've done, Bill, because has been very impressive.

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Speaker 5: That's incredible career.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, everybody, I'm in two unions, all right,

522
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Speaker 2: and we want to make sure I'm screen actors and

523
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm writers and writers that's right. Yeah, So you guys,

524
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Speaker 2: we want to make sure we keep production in California.

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Speaker 6: You know.

526
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Speaker 4: That's that's we couldn't agree more with that.

527
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Speaker 7: By the way, we also want to keep writers writing

528
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 7: and actors acting. What about the science of artificial intelligence?

529
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Speaker 7: How are where are you on the AI spectrum?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've messed around with it, so everybody. What we

531
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: want is to have you mentioned this earlier. We want

532
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: everybody to have what nowadays is called critical thinking skill.

533
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Speaker 2: When I was in school, it might have been called

534
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Speaker 2: logic or logical reasoning or something like that. But you

535
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: want people to be able to evaluate evidence too. I

536
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: have met in the twenty first century in the United States,

537
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Speaker 2: I have met people who asked me, or ask somebody

538
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: to ask me if I thought the world might be flatted.

539
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Speaker 4: And that I mean, but it was a sincere question.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just too people who were graduated from high

541
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Speaker 2: school in the United States asking me.

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Speaker 6: And I just remember Kyrie Irvy lasted that in playoffs

543
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Speaker 6: a couple of years ago.

544
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Speaker 2: Oh I know, yeah, and he started he was. He

545
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Speaker 2: knocked it on or made it bigger than it might

546
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Speaker 2: have been before that, but he was. He didn't come

547
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Speaker 2: to it as you, attorney say, dey novo. I mean,

548
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: he had heard it from somebody else and really got

549
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Speaker 2: the question.

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Speaker 4: So you're here to break the news to tell us

551
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Speaker 4: if its round.

552
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: You know, there's a great T shirt you can get

553
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: with the NASA logo, the meatball logo and the Earth

554
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: is on it. It's round. We checked, We checked good.

555
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Speaker 4: But Billy, you gotta be worried.

556
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Speaker 7: I mean, every sing you, I don't want to get

557
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Speaker 7: in sort of the darkness that was the pandemic, et cetera.

558
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: But it does feel like we it set us back.

559
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Speaker 7: I mean, is that you're feeling around science and facts, conspiracies, and.

560
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Speaker 2: So, you know, I met many people who and family

561
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: members who didn't get vaccinated at first because of this

562
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: pseudoscientific notion that vaccinations cause autism that has been debunked

563
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: six ways to Sunday at the old saying goes. And

564
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Speaker 2: so there's really troubling because one of the reasons our

565
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: quality of life is so high here in the United States, Europe, Japan,

566
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: South Korea what have you is because of vaccinations, because

567
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: of public health. I I'm so old. How old are you?

568
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Speaker 2: I went to elementary school with a guy who in polio.

569
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Speaker 2: You do not want polio, people, No, no polio. I

570
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: grew up in Washington, d C. In the summertime, in

571
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Speaker 2: English units, it's ninety nine degrees fahrenheit and ninety nine

572
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Speaker 2: percent humidity. You're a little kid, all you want, but

573
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Speaker 2: this is every I'm not your can you guys? This

574
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: is before air conditioning was everywhere. We did not have

575
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Speaker 2: air conditioning. And you wanted to go swimming. That's what

576
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: you wanted to do, is jumping community pool. And we

577
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Speaker 2: weren't allowed to go because polio is somehow a water

578
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Speaker 2: born virus. So then when I was five, polio virus

579
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Speaker 2: was developed and distributed. We went to the big middle

580
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Speaker 2: school in those days, it was called the Junior High

581
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Speaker 2: school and took a sugar pill, a sugar cube with

582
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Speaker 2: red liquid in it, and I don't get polio. And

583
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Speaker 2: so this thing with COVID and the vaccines and people

584
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Speaker 2: not getting vaccinated and having it mutated and infecting more

585
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Speaker 2: and more people and everybody freaking out, and people didn't

586
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Speaker 2: if you're a parent, you did not want your kid

587
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Speaker 2: in school. But those other sick kid hypothetically other sick kids,

588
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Speaker 2: and just la la la. And so if we had,

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Speaker 2: I say, we humankind had jumped on the idea that

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Speaker 2: vaccines work and everybody got vaccinated, we would have had

591
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Speaker 2: kids back in school in six months instead of two years. Yeah,

592
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Speaker 2: it's just crazy making.

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Speaker 4: So how do I mean?

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, having experienced this, and I mean

595
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Speaker 7: I imagine with all of your work, I mean, it

596
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 7: feels like a big setback. I mean, what, what's what's

597
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Speaker 7: the diagnosis going forward? How do we start to get

598
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Speaker 7: people back on track recognizing all the progress humankind has made? Uh?

599
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 7: And how science and research and folks and your profession

600
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 7: and disciplines are the guiding light in terms of that progress.

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Speaker 2: Well we we What is it about your favorite teacher

602
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: that you liked? It doesn't matter what subject, it was

603
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: his or her passion. Yeah, And so what you want, governor,

604
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Speaker 2: what we want is for people who come out of

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Speaker 2: let's say, four year liberal arts college, who have a

606
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Speaker 2: general knowledge of the world and have developed through four

607
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: years of getting socratic interrogation from professors and teachers, that

608
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Speaker 2: they have critical thinking skill. We want them a fraction

609
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Speaker 2: of them to choose going into the teaching profession. And

610
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Speaker 2: for that, they need to be able to make a living.

611
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: They need to be able to choose between going to

612
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Speaker 2: work at middle school or going to work at Google

613
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: in some level. And I maybe exaggerating a little, but

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Speaker 2: we want it where teachers make a good living so

615
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: we can attract passionate good teachers to the profession. And

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Speaker 2: what has happened here in the United States, and what

617
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Speaker 2: in my idea is, we have tied property taxes to

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Speaker 2: schools and teacher sellers. And this is just yeah, you know,

619
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: the at risk kids get more riskier, and the really

620
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: nice neighborhoods get nice teacher good teachers and good facilities.

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Speaker 2: And this, I know is a soluble problem redistributing wealth.

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Speaker 2: But it's a challenge, man.

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Speaker 7: No, And we're I mean, you're you're in the epicenter

624
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Speaker 7: of that, the history that we made Proposition thirteen in

625
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Speaker 7: the state of California, which in so many ways the

626
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 7: original sin in that space, and the tax revolt movement

627
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 7: back in the seventies. But it's you know, built the

628
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Speaker 7: issue of I mean it is, I've got to imagine

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Speaker 7: it's got to be somewhat demoralizing to you just to

630
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Speaker 7: see all that progress run into this sort of new reality.

631
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Speaker 7: And there's almost a I mean, you know, people are

632
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Speaker 7: celebrated for not believing in science. People seem to be venerated.

633
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Speaker 7: Careers are made money is made.

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Speaker 2: Well, we fight the fight, Governor, I mean, we fight

635
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: the fight. Look, you can't. You've got to be optimistic.

636
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: If you're not optimistic, you're not going to get anything done.

637
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: And I'll stayed categorically to everybody. As speaking of government employees,

638
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: you mentioned Bill Clinton. Does anybody remember Barack Obama?

639
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Speaker 8: He was a federal employee for anyway, he pointed out

640
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 8: a cool thing, he said, I if you're as we

641
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Speaker 8: say in law school, you can't argue with my hypothetical.

642
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Speaker 2: If you could, through some science fiction way, give a

643
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Speaker 2: person a choice to be born when in human history

644
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Speaker 2: or where on Earth you'd want to be born. Now,

645
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: if you can't pick where you'd be born on earth,

646
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: this is the most exciting time for more people than

647
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Speaker 2: ever in human history. More people are better off than

648
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Speaker 2: ever in history because of science and technology, because we

649
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: now feed over eight billion people on less land that

650
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Speaker 2: used to feed fewer than two billion. It's because of

651
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: our agricultural technology and our infrastructure we're able to distribute

652
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Speaker 2: food and refrigerate food and make sure food is safe

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Speaker 2: to eat. Then that is and more. As troubling as

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Speaker 2: the housing situation is, there are more people with a

655
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: place to live than ever. So you, guys, we can

656
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Speaker 2: do this. We can do this. You've got to be

657
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Speaker 2: optimistic or you're not going to win the game. But

658
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: you do have to work. And everybody people say to

659
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: me Bill nine Science Guide, what can I do about

660
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: climate change? And what do I say? Two things talk

661
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: about it. If we're talking about climate change, we're talking

662
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: about a bunch of other stuff we'd be getting or done.

663
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: And then the other thing is vote, got to vote.

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Speaker 5: Well, speaking of the climate change bill, it's interesting.

665
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 6: You know, my son and I we watched The Animal

666
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 6: Planet and those things like three times a week. But

667
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 6: the great thing now is that in those shows, twenty

668
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 6: minutes of the hour is talking about how the glaciers

669
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Speaker 6: are going away, the land's going away.

670
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 5: So now my son and daughters are looking at this.

671
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 5: Back in our day, you just watched lions kill zebras.

672
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 5: Now you're seeing the.

673
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 6: Effects of if the if the glaciers fall off, the

674
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 6: polar bears have noe, they got to go longer to get.

675
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: Food, blah blah. So these kids are learning more and more,

676
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 5: which is a really cool thing. And guess we have here,

677
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: We have mister Basco Wake, We get a.

678
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 7: Climate change, speaking a climate change.

679
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 4: Marshawn meet Bill Nye. Former Seattle residents.

680
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: You know, Marshaw and I lived in Seattle. I watched

681
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: you play a lot. I was on the field in October.

682
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: I raised a twelve man twelve man flag.

683
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: How you get to praise the flag before?

684
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. Is it clerical or I guess? And

685
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: in the front of the office anyway, it's great to see you.

686
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: And then must be John Snyder over there doing that

687
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: because raise the twelfth man flag.

688
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you went back, they might you know,

689
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: it takes a lot of strength. I don't know.

690
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: I might not be able to know it. I was

691
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: just there not too long ago.

692
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: It was cool. It was it was quite an honor.

693
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: It was cool. Uh, se Hawks, Pete, the Browns.

694
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: Marshawn. We were talking about polar bears right when you

695
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 4: got on.

696
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's me. I'm a polar bear. Yeah.

697
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 7: Doug's just worried about he's worried about climate change, and

698
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 7: he's worried about sort of the you know the realities

699
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 7: of ice sheets melting, polar bears being displaced.

700
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: No, but the cool, the cool thing, and Marshawn you

701
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 6: can get the story. But I was telling, uh, Bill,

702
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 6: I was telling Marshawn you were coming on, and I

703
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 6: think Marshawn has been trying to talk to you for

704
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 6: a long time and get with you for a long time.

705
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 5: So more Shawn, you can tell him that story.

706
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 6: But Marshawn kind of grew up more in the science

707
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 6: ear than me and Gavin did.

708
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: Thankfully.

709
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 6: I think to you, Bill, that was more Shawn's heyday

710
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 6: back in those days.

711
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Man, it's a pleasure to meet you big.

712
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: It's cool. It's cool or electronic. Hey, let me ask

713
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: you a technical thing. How many plays do you guys memorize?

714
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: Is it forty two dozen?

715
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot more than that.

716
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: And it depended because I played with so many different

717
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: teams and it's different type of offenses. So you got

718
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: to learn, I mean, depending on your offensive coordinator and

719
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 3: what kind of offense you'd like to run.

720
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Speaker 1: It could be upward of somewhere in the hundreds, one

721
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: hundred down.

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00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: All right, it's complicated. I watch you guys. It's complicated. Bill.

723
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Speaker 7: It's interesting you've tried to sort of deconstruct it's interesting.

724
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 7: I'm just watching your career as well back to sort

725
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 7: of science and sports. That's been an area of interest

726
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 7: for you. You, I mean talked about the baseball and

727
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 7: you've I think, do you have a patent?

728
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: And that's yeah, I have. Yeah, you guys, So, I

729
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: don't know if you know do you know this expression

730
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: hitting a fungo? Fungo practice?

731
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I remember the old fungo.

732
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: Well, you still throw the ball up and hit it. Well,

733
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: I have a thing that goes on the end of

734
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: the bat. You poke it under the ball and you

735
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: can pick it up like those tennis ball pick up things.

736
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: And so I I thought it would take over the world,

737
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: but it hadn't. You know. A way to have a

738
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: good idea is to have a lot of ideas. That

739
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: was the so's it's something that a company, this company

740
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: no errors baseball and now I was manufacturing. We'll see

741
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: if I can finally retire over the two dozen of

742
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: those I'm going to sell.

743
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: Did you grow up You've been a big sports fan

744
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: for most of your life.

745
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: Well, I grew up with the Washington Senators, and when

746
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: I was a real little kid, before I really remember,

747
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: they were traded became the Minnesota Twins. Then when I

748
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 2: was in high school they became the Texas Rangers, which

749
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: was heartbreaking. But all through that, marsh On, I was

750
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: an R word fan because that's what we had here

751
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: in DC. And then when I got a job at

752
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: Boeing in nineteen seventy seven, I was an instant Seahawks

753
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: fan man back in the zoo.

754
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: So you really you really are like a scientist scientist.

755
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: Well, I worked at Boeing, Yeah, and I tell people

756
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: I worked on seven forty sevens. If you're ever on

757
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 2: a seven forty seven, don't worry. I was very well

758
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: supervised what I tell people. And I got to tell

759
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Speaker 2: you everybody, Uh, Marshawn Governor. Culture has changed, man, whatever

760
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: is going on there was.

761
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 4: What is going on? A bing the places was going on.

762
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: When I was there. So speaking of being in unions,

763
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 2: you know they got they have a strike there right now.

764
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: Part of it.

765
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Part of it is I think that workers are just

766
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: concerned about the decisions management is making. You guys, I

767
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: don't want to. I know we're talking about California, we're

768
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: talking about renewable energy, we're talking about science. But they

769
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: got a different company making the fuselage, you know, the tube,

770
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: Like what if you make airplanes. What else do you

771
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: make besides the tube? And so it was a different

772
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: culture for sure. And I know there's wages. I'm sure

773
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: there won't. Everybody always wants more money, but there was

774
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: an expression when I lived in Seattle. I lived there

775
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 2: for twenty six years, and I was there, you guys,

776
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: I was there weekend Marshawn, did you watch Almost Live?

777
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: I said, well, then we I think we probably just

778
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: missed each other because I was there for for the

779
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: home opener when they played.

780
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 2: Against Oh yeah, well yeah, but I was. I went

781
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: to the Museum of History and Industry where we had

782
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: the fortieth anniversary of the comedy show I started out on.

783
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: You know Joel McHale. He came from this show. He's

784
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: an old Seattle guy, Joel McHale.

785
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 5: Oh, Joel's great. Hey, So Bill, Bill.

786
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 6: During when the beast quake run hit, it was interesting

787
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 6: because that created a whole, you know, craze with that

788
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 6: seismic activity and whatnot. So I'm sure you've been asked

789
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 6: about that, and you obviously were you out that game.

790
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 2: Bill, No, but the stadium is made to be earthquake worthy.

791
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

792
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: They showed me these little.

793
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: These little uh, these machines that they put I think,

794
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 3: like outside of the stadium to I guess to record

795
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: the seismic activity. Oh yeah, go back to uh what

796
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: is it, Pete Pacific Northwest.

797
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

798
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: What's the place that they got over at at.

799
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: The seismic uh, Seismic Lab University.

800
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: I went to visit that place and they showed me,

801
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: like the the diagram of all of the Yeah, they

802
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: showed me the diagram of where they put all of

803
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: those earthquake detectors inside of the stadium.

804
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: So were you there? You know, when they were building

805
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: the stadium, there was an earthquake and these I guess

806
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: it was five guys were working way up high the

807
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: high iron or whatever, and they fell off. They got

808
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: knocked off by the motion of the of the platform

809
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: and they were all wearing safety armises, so they were okay.

810
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: They were hanging there above you know.

811
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: The way you do hanging right there. I'm like, oh shit.

812
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: So they were hey, can you guys get me? But

813
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: safety first people.

814
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 7: By the way, Bill, speaking of seismic safety, we've had

815
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 7: a flurry of earthquakes in California in the last couple

816
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 7: of months, particularly in southern California. Nothing dramatic four point six.

817
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 6: No.

818
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: I you know, I have a house in Studio City

819
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: and we were in the headquarters in Pasting and we

820
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: got we just got outside.

821
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: You got outside. Were you the beneficiary of the early

822
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: warning system?

823
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 6: Ye?

824
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 4: What's the science? You have one of those?

825
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

826
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 4: What do you think of that? Is that technology? Real?

827
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: Is that going to get better?

828
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: Everybody? You know this thing on your phone, if it's

829
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: a start up with the iPhone, you do this or

830
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: this and the image changes. Right, Yeah, there's a in

831
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: here is what's called an accelerometer. And I'm introducing the

832
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: word before the idea, but it measures down. You know,

833
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: if you drop something rates towards the center of the earth,

834
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: it falls. So these tiny, tiny silicon little flaps are

835
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: detect where down is and that's what enables the picture

836
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: to change when you do that. And so that same gizmo,

837
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: connected to the right software, an app, detects this motion

838
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: that is coordinated with other phones in the neighborhoods. So

839
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: you can't you can't get cal tech to declare there's

840
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: an earthquake. Just by doing this. Everybody's phone's got to

841
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: be doing it. Yeah it works, Governor, Oh, it's not perfect,

842
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: but it worked.

843
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 7: I mean, we've got a lot of money into it,

844
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 7: so I just want to make sure investments.

845
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, yeah, And so as we say, if

846
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: you have ten seconds, if you have ten seconds of

847
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: warning in an earthquake, that's a lot.

848
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: Man.

849
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: You can get outside. You can get under a solid table.

850
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: This business about the doorway, that's kind of a myth.

851
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: Get under a table. Or if you can manage to

852
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: get outside away from a building, which is what I

853
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: did the other day. We have a big parking lot.

854
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: We could get outside. Because, as we have the old saying,

855
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: earthquakes don't hurt people. Buildings hurt people. It's when it's

856
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: when structures fall down and you're underneath them that stuff

857
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: goes wrong.

858
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question, Bill, I can tell

859
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 6: my twelve year old if name one or two things

860
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 6: you think he's an experience when he's when he's fifty.

861
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 5: And sixty years old, that, oh man?

862
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 6: Is I know it's more than that, but is there

863
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 6: a few things you like, like look out for this

864
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 6: two things? Uh?

865
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: Uh uh no. No, I'll bet you in fifty years

866
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: someone has figured out how to do fusion on earth surface.

867
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: There are so many companies working so hard at it,

868
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: and universities working so hard at it. I bet somebody

869
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: does it. So we a nuclear power plant that we have. Now,

870
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: you take these large atoms, I mean they're atoms, but

871
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: these large atoms, and you get them to split apart,

872
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: and as they split apart, the splitting, they run into

873
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: other atoms and they split some more in the so

874
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: called chain reaction like Oppenheimer what have you. But in

875
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: the interior of the Sun and all the stars in

876
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: the sky, there's so much gravity that the repulsion, the

877
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: force that would keep these particles from smashing together, is overcome.

878
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: And that also releases even much more heat. That's the

879
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: hydrogen bomb. Right. The sun is a fusion power plant

880
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: running day and night. There's no night. It's the sun.

881
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: And so so betcha' somebody in the next fifty years

882
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: has got fusion working, and then we would have humankind

883
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: would have, really you all, unlimited electricity.

884
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 7: Which changes everything in every way, the economics of everything,

885
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 7: radical change ability, the universality of this.

886
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: So if I were king of the forest governor, we'd

887
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: be throwing money at that like crazy.

888
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 7: And you think it's I love that you said fifty years,

889
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 7: because we've been promoting this as in the next four

890
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 7: or five years, next four or five.

891
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's said he's he gave me fifty.

892
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 7: All right, so you're covering your basis. So you got

893
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 7: that cover.

894
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 5: Hold on, What's what's the second thing, Bill.

895
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: Well, marsha on bases are part of the baseball it's

896
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: a different game from your profession.

897
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I'll swing a bet too.

898
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet you do. Man, all you guys are

899
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: just extraordinary athletes. I'm not changing this of it. When

900
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: I was on the field in October last year, I

901
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: was impressed by the whole thing. Okay, you guys are

902
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: so big and so fast, it's just weird. And you're

903
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: also so quick, it's just weird. It doesn't look real.

904
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: And then you guys just warming up throwing the ball

905
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 2: to each other. It would take my arm off. I mean,

906
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: it's the guys throw it so hard, and guys like

907
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: you you get it an instantly. You've got your fingers

908
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: on the seam or the stitches, just instantly. It's amazing.

909
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: But the thing that freaked me out or freaked me out,

910
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: the thing that made such an impression on me, was

911
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: the punting. I mean, I've kicked a football. I think

912
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: these guys kick it up. It comes down with frost star.

913
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: It's big in the atmosphere. And then they said, Okay,

914
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kick it over here. The guy's got a

915
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: flag or an orange thing. Kicks it over there. He

916
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: kicks it over there, he kicks it end over end,

917
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: he kicks it short, and he kicks it far. It's

918
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: just whoa. I mean, just sorry. It made an impression.

919
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: That's a different beat.

920
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, my shot.

921
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 7: I noticed he didn't talk about running backs talking about

922
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 7: I'm just saying it.

923
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: I started out with running backs so big, so fast,

924
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: and so.

925
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: Quick, and they get the Yeah he missed that part.

926
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: Don't worry that.

927
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: I thought he's trying about the receivers.

928
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: Now that's just the governor doing the governor's thing.

929
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: You know, do they still ever sear? Okay? So the

930
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: second thing, Doug, is discovery of life or evidence of

931
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: life on another world. If you give me fifty years,

932
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: somebody's going to scoop around under the soil on mars Man.

933
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you just say.

934
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not talking about aliens beaming stuff. I'm talking

935
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: about some Martian bacteria under the sand of Mars, where

936
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: there's still this very salty slush. And then on October tenth,

937
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: as we say in space exploration, ne et no earlier

938
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: than October tenth, You and I, we taxpayers, are going

939
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: to send a mission of spacecraft to Europa. Europa is

940
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: the moon of Jupiter with twice as much ocean water

941
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: as Earth. If you have salt water for four and

942
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: a half billion years. Is there something alive on Europa?

943
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: Are there EU opinions swimming around under the ice on Europa?

944
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 7: Why are we talking about where we talk about Mars

945
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 7: so much, Why are we talking about Europians?

946
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 5: Well, Marshaun Winzemr Is on his TV show.

947
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 3: That's the smoke screen. Get you thinking about this shit

948
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 3: over here while they over there doing with it. You know,

949
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 3: that's that's politics one on one.

950
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: Oh, is it?

951
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 7: We're deflecting on the real mission, the missions to Europa.

952
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: That's what y'all doing.

953
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: By by the way, the amount of money we spend

954
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: on these planetary missions is nothing. It's less than a

955
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: cup of coffee once. By the way, when you this

956
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: thing leaves no earlier than October tenth, it will get

957
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: to Jupiter in twenty thirty, twenty thirty, a huge flipping rocket,

958
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: gigant get rocket will not get to Jupiter for six years,

959
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 2: almost six years. It's amazing. It's so far away.

960
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 5: And are they putting people on that?

961
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no.

962
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: One's on it.

963
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: Oh.

964
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: I was about to say that, man, who the fuck

965
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: want to go out in.

966
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: The space That's why it's so cheap. There's no people.

967
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: You don't have to feed them, you don't have to

968
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: have them take care process their waste. It's a spacecraft

969
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: full of instruments.

970
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 6: Well, Bill, why are more people not going to the Moon?

971
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I know we did that back and Earth.

972
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 7: By the way, well that was not staged either, Bill,

973
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 7: was it? I mean, I know we have flat earthers.

974
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 7: We stop people literally that do not believe we ever

975
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 7: went to the moon. And it does beg the question

976
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 7: why haven't we been back? If we were there the

977
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 7: first time?

978
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 2: We are going back in twenty twenty eight. They're all

979
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: sexed up on this on Artemis. No people are going back?

980
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: Is no earlier than twenty twenty eight. There's been a

981
00:52:54,400 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: setback with the Star. The Star Cruise CST, another Boeing product,

982
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: has been a setback, and SpaceX has not flown to

983
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: what they're called the starship in orbit around Earth or

984
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: out to the Moon or all that. But people are

985
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: working really hard on that and it's going to happen.

986
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 7: Bill, on a serious note, what is the benefit I mean,

987
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 7: obviously the moon going back to the Moon, But is

988
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 7: that the highest and best use in terms of those

989
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 7: space dollars or is it to do what you guys

990
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 7: are trying to do before October tenth?

991
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: After October. So I am the CEO of the Planetary Society.

992
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 2: We promote planetary science so that people everywhere on Earth

993
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 2: will know the Cosmos and our place within it. That

994
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: is our mission. I applied to be an astronaut four times. However,

995
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: I don't really especially need to fly in Earth orbit.

996
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: I don't especially need to go to the Moon, I

997
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: really have. I am not interested in going to the

998
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 2: mar going to Mars unless I'm coming back.

999
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, the return flight issue.

1000
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So whether or not it's the best use

1001
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: of our tax dollars, I defer to you all. But

1002
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 2: it is happening because enough people think it's a worthy

1003
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: and cool thing to do that we're doing it and

1004
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: interesting everybody. The reason, well, hang on, the reason we

1005
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 2: went to the moon originally was because of the Cold War. Okay,

1006
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: you can say that all sorts of amazing science came

1007
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: from it. We learned so much more about the age

1008
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: of the Earth, and where the Moon came from, and

1009
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: where Moon's writ large can come from, and where the

1010
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: significance of asteroids in the evolution of life on Earth.

1011
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: When the people walked on the moon, there was no

1012
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: good idea of what happened to the ancient dinosaurs. It

1013
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: wasn't until nineteen eighty eighty three that people work that out,

1014
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: and it was in part by studying the moon. Doug

1015
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: back to you.

1016
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 6: Well, that's fascinating. It's interesting as an agent. Bill and

1017
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 6: Marshall be back in a second. But the advt now

1018
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 6: about new therapies and things to do, you know. Now

1019
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 6: it's the new fat of these cold plunges and these

1020
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 6: red light therapy saunas.

1021
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 5: How and by the way, our governor who uses them

1022
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 5: every day, and.

1023
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 7: I don't use them every day, just every other day.

1024
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 7: I mean, I've never been healthier as.

1025
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 5: He wasted his time? Or are these legit?

1026
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: Bill, Well, it's up to the person. Let me say,

1027
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: as much as we may think it's a new idea.

1028
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: People in Scandinavia have been using saunas and cold baths forever.

1029
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: People in Japan are fascinated. But the ancient Romans had

1030
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: the baths. You can go to Britain and there's the

1031
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: town of Baths named after the bags. Like, it's not

1032
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: an extraordinary new idea. What's cool now or cold now

1033
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 2: is we can get things so much colder, so much quicker,

1034
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: so much faster. We can get things so much warmer,

1035
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 2: so much more quickly than we could in the good

1036
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: old days. So the answer is clearly without question.

1037
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 7: Maybe see I love a certainty of science.

1038
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 4: That's why you need scientists in the world, not politicians.

1039
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: I think what it is is your results may vary.

1040
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 7: You did a series with Seth McFarlane about disasters, and

1041
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 7: you talked about volcanoes, you talk about asteroids, you talked

1042
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 7: about all of these issues, including solar flares. I think

1043
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 7: was one of them that was a that's the one

1044
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 7: that's the one you're most worried about.

1045
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean asteroids. Everybody, by the way, everybody hip

1046
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: to apophus.

1047
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 7: Apophus I want to claim I am just in case

1048
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 7: I look stupid, but I have no clue what you're

1049
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 7: talking about.

1050
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: Well you won't now, so I'm not kidding. April Friday,

1051
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: the thirteenth of April twenty twenty nine, an asteroid is

1052
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: going to come between us and serious XM satellites and

1053
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: it's called a poffice, which is one translation the Greek

1054
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: god of anxiety. So during that flyby of this rock,

1055
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: we are working to get an international consortium together to

1056
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: make it what we're calling a dress rehearsal for deflecting

1057
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: an asteroid, because it's a real thing. An asteroid impact

1058
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: is a real thing to really physically actually worry about.

1059
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: But the one that I'm really worried about of the

1060
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: six disasters we did is this solar flare of what's

1061
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: called coronal mass ejection a CME uh. And what would

1062
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: the real thing that could go easily wrong is two

1063
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: of them twelve hours apart, so you'd you'd turn off

1064
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: all the lights on Earth, which would just be catastrophic, catastrophic.

1065
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 7: And you were, I mean, these weren't I mean completely

1066
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 7: hypothetical scenarios that you were laying out, including by the way,

1067
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 7: hurricanes cat fives versus cat sixes.

1068
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: Well, so category sixes have occurred on the open ocean.

1069
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 2: One hasn't landed yet, So I mean you.

1070
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 7: Talk about optimism, but imagine that also, Yeah, you know

1071
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 7: those six episodes brought a little anxiety as well as well.

1072
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 7: Was it about awareness, about waking up our senses?

1073
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about paying attention. So in the case of

1074
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: Chrono mass ejections, the solar players put it turning out

1075
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: all the lights. This is a solvable problem. So you

1076
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: all may remember when the Texas grid. Now some of

1077
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: my best friends, as they say, are from Texas, proud Texans,

1078
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: and they're very proud of their electrical grid. They're very

1079
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: proud of that they were independent. But then we got

1080
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: a little bit cold, a little bit quickly, nothing extraordinary,

1081
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 2: and the power went out all over the place. The

1082
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: famous pictures of here's Texas in the dark, and here's

1083
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: Arkansas with the lights on, and El Paso I think

1084
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: is not quite on the grid. So a solvable problem.

1085
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: What we have to do is the expression they throw

1086
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: around is hardened or get the electrical grid more robust

1087
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: so when it gets cold and warm, the system keeps running.

1088
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: And one that another one you want to design for

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01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: is this very strong electromagnetic field that is induced when

1090
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: these charged particles from the Sun interact with Earth's magnetic field.

1091
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: Who could forget eighteen fifty nine Carrington the Carrington event.

1092
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: So Carlington was an astronomer observed these sunspots and then fires

1093
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: were started in telegraph offices the telegraph lines. Of the

1094
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: energy going through the telegraph lines interacted with the Earth's

1095
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: magnetic field, and these charged particles and zap stuff. And

1096
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: as before, we had phone calls like this, and all

1097
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: this electricity running all over the flip and place be

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01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: cat test traphic. So we need to shield them, shield

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01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: this stuff.

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 7: And so I mean, so that's I mean, that's a

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01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 7: demonstrable thread, not a hypothetical because you're able to connect

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01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 7: to that date.

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: What is it? Is there any.

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01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 7: Seriousness of purpose the federal government's placing on this or

1105
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 7: is this or is the byproduct of our general efforts

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01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 7: to upgrade our gride, harden our grid, decentralize our grid

1107
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 7: and all of the other things going to benefit.

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01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: Well, hypertheoretically it would benefit from decentralizing, but still you

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01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: need to shields the real vulnerable part that we were

1110
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: We read some papers about You know, the people engineers

1111
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: who studied paragrid is, the transformers, those cans on the

1112
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: utility poles, those are the real vulnerable component components of

1113
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: the electro grid. So we need to shield those. And

1114
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: there's have you ever heard this story in the thunderstorm,

1115
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: stay in your car.

1116
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 4: That's a I mean? And is that literally the advice

1117
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 4: in this case?

1118
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely stay in the metal.

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01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 4: Car, Stay in the middle car.

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01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: The energy of the lightning will go around you. It

1121
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: will go around if the car's metal. If you're in

1122
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: a plastic car, things will be different, but it'll go

1123
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: around you. And the guy who developed Faraday's law, Michael Faraday,

1124
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: did this analysis that's now famous where the term Faraday

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01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: cage has caught on. If you have a metal cage

1126
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: a conductive cage around an object, it will protect it,

1127
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: and then you can optimize it so that you also

1128
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: have that energy go to the ground like a lightning rod.

1129
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: It's all. It's doable, but we have to design for

1130
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 2: it and plan for it and throw money at it.

1131
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: Tax dollars.

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01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 6: Bill, take me through your campaign of too hot not

1133
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 6: to vote, explain that to us.

1134
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: So I just encourage everybody who wants to vote thoughtlessly

1135
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 2: for conservatives. You should vote on Wednesdays. To be sure

1136
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: to vote on Wednesdays.

1137
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 4: We know where your leadings are.

1138
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: I was well leanings. I'm way past leaning it. No, no,

1139
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: So I ran this nonprofit where we worked very hard

1140
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: to be political but not partisan. But now we can't

1141
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: do that. This is it climate change, This is it.

1142
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: If we do not do not address climate change this

1143
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: time four years from now, it's just going to be

1144
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: really hard to do it.

1145
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 7: You really feel like we're at that tippy POI where

1146
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 7: I mean literally because we keep talking about it. In

1147
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 7: some ways, some people feel like we can continue to

1148
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 7: move that bar.

1149
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 4: But you feel like the next.

1150
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: Few years it's easy for us to be called alarmists. Yep,

1151
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 2: in a critical way. Paul Revere was an alarmist. That

1152
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: was good. That was good. Paul revering everybody, He got

1153
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: everybody rapped up, and we have a country on account

1154
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 2: of it. So uh, it's not that there's going to

1155
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 2: be what has often been analyzed as a tipping point.

1156
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: Apparently the latest research is it's just going to get

1157
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 2: worse and worse. It's just gonna get hotter and hotter.

1158
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 2: More stuff's gonna go wrong, more sea level rise, fewer glaciers,

1159
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: more displaced wildlife, more wildfires, are difficult to predict, weather,

1160
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: more extreme weather events in the Gulf of Mexico, Nor'easter's

1161
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: Pineapple Express. Everything's just going to get amplified.

1162
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 4: And human migration, human displacement.

1163
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: People are gonna So it's happening in the States. You guys.

1164
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 2: You can't get insurance for your parking your car in

1165
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: Florida because of the salt water coming over on the

1166
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: King tides and coming up through the limestone in Florida.

1167
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: And so people are gonna move, not immediately, but sooner

1168
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: or later. And where are they going to go and

1169
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: where they're gonna.

1170
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 7: Do homeowner insurance as well as it relates to impacts

1171
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 7: of wildfires.

1172
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: And then wildfires in California and then now in Pallas

1173
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: Verdi's So I'll tell you, Governor. The head of the

1174
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: jet propulsion lab during the Viking missions, the Voyager missions

1175
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, the heyday of those missions, Bruce Bett.

1176
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 2: Bruce Bett, Bruce Murray was a geologist, and he used

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01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: to just, oh, you know, so I've been California. This

1178
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: isn't rock it's just it's just dried mud this whole place.

1179
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: It's going to fall apart when there's an earthquake. He

1180
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: used to say stuff like that, And so Pallas Verdes

1181
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: is that's where it's going on.

1182
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 4: Man, it's uh.

1183
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 7: And you guys aren't unaware it's I mean, back in

1184
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 7: the fifties Pallas Verdi started to slip, there was some

1185
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 7: landslide movement. Now it's been accelerated the last two years

1186
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 7: of massive rains have been moving up to six eight inches.

1187
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's a serious thing. They're losing electricity,

1188
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 7: losing their gas.

1189
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And it's a very It's tends to be a wealthier

1191
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 7: community and impacts even with folks with means, is pretty outsized.

1192
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: Folks with means, and then where are they going to

1193
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: do go? And if you've lost everything, even if you're rich,

1194
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 2: it's a drag Amen.

1195
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 4: Amen. But all byproducts of this sort of foundational reality

1196
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 4: that we're still debating, Bill, We're still debating the science

1197
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 4: of climate change.

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01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: It's amazing and it should be one would think it's

1199
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: not a part is an issue. Everybody's invested in the

1200
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: health and safety, health and welfare of our citizens. Everybody

1201
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 2: can see that. They're more wildfires, and you can say,

1202
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: well there's more fuel. No, no, they're more wildfires. They

1203
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: are more floods. These hurricanes are devastating, and we have

1204
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: more people living everywhere, and so there are more effects

1205
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 2: on us agricultures. Of everybody can see that. Yet the

1206
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 2: fossil fuel industry has been so influential convincing people that

1207
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: scientific uncertainty plus or minus two percent is the same

1208
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: as plus or minus one hundred percent. And so you

1209
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: just can't do that, No, Bill, I was.

1210
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 7: I mean it just what you just said I think

1211
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 7: is really important. I wanted to underscore it. Even if

1212
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 7: you don't believe in science. To your point, you have

1213
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 7: to believe your own eyes. And the hots are getting

1214
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 7: a lot hotter, drivers are getting dryer, wets are getting wetter, lifestyles, places, traditions.

1215
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 7: You have places like Paradise, California, wiped off the map,

1216
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 7: grizzly flats, places literally that people have experienced for generations.

1217
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 7: You try to go to the Assemite Park, all of

1218
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 7: a sudden, you're.

1219
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 4: With the grandkids.

1220
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 7: You can't even experience what your grandparents allowed you to

1221
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 7: experience as a child because they're closed. So this is

1222
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 7: a I mean, it's serious stuff and it's costing taxpayers

1223
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 7: of fortune.

1224
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 4: But you said it.

1225
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 7: I cannot, I cannot impress upon folks more. This is

1226
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 7: not complicated. The climate crisis is a byproduct of greenhouse

1227
01:07:55,080 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 7: gases emissions from the burning of fossil fuels, of oil,

1228
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 7: gas and coal.

1229
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 4: It's not complicated.

1230
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 7: And the complicity of the oil companies to deny and

1231
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 7: now delay and obfuscate facts and science is of outsized

1232
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 7: importance to highlight. So anyway, I just that's off for

1233
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 7: you for calling balls and strikes.

1234
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it, talk about climate change.

1235
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 6: And look, I gotta tell you, bill uh, this has

1236
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 6: been an obsosite pleasure. You are you are, it's so

1237
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 6: impressive and all these things. We could talk to you

1238
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 6: for about seven more hours or seven more days or

1239
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 6: seven more weeks, but this has been unbelievable.

1240
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: I know.

1241
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 5: Moreshan is a couple of things left.

1242
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: No, it's all good. I just no, I'm good, big dog.

1243
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:40,919
Speaker 2: You have a question, Marshaan.

1244
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 3: Just just just hearing you speak and just knowing that

1245
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 3: I was I was better. That's enough for me, big dog.

1246
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1247
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: So you know what he brought to the game, you guys,

1248
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: he played with joy. Yep, Marshawn played with joy and

1249
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: you could see it.

1250
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's hey, Bill.

1251
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 7: Do you know just today, Doug, what this joy has

1252
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 7: now brought Marshawn as one of the new fifteen folks

1253
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 7: to be considered for the Hall of Fame just came out?

1254
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: Oh wow, sure for some reason, I'm not consulted.

1255
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 6: But of course, last thing, Bill, because I always tell

1256
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 6: more Shawn this. Marshawn has lived his life with joy.

1257
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 6: He's lived his life how he's.

1258
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 5: Wanted to do it. He lived it with happiness.

1259
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 6: Equate that to length of life, Bill, because I think

1260
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 6: if you live like Moreshawn does, he might lived about

1261
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifteen, So I think more people need

1262
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 6: to live like Morehon Who.

1263
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: So you have to put in the hours to do that, so,

1264
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: you know, doing the podcast a different podcast, We had

1265
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: a guy on who studies a physician who studies people

1266
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: who are over one hundred years old, and he said,

1267
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: there are two kinds of people that live to be

1268
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: over one hundred. People who are just happy. They're just happy.

1269
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: Stuff goes wrong, they just roll with it. And then

1270
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 2: people who just take all the stress, all the stress

1271
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: and put it on everybody else. There's some really very

1272
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: interesting observation. I'm giving you hearsay of what this guy

1273
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 2: told us on the podcast. I haven't done the research,

1274
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: but could be.

1275
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 3: I think I might hellow mustress on you and Batman

1276
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: Man you do that every day, Marsha.

1277
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: I think I might hello lustress on all that.

1278
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 2: Oh Man, that's why you're going to go one fifteen.

1279
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: So anyway, Governor, you know I will vote in Studio City. Uh.

1280
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: And I look forward to voting and everybody. People are

1281
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: talking about the seven swing states and all this stuff,

1282
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: but don't forget you got to vote. Even if it's

1283
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 2: nominally our people perceive it to be in the got

1284
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 2: to vote. Everybody, please vote with the climate and the

1285
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: future of humankind in mind. Thank you so much for

1286
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: having me on the show.

1287
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bill. It's been a pleasure.

1288
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: All right.

1289
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 2: Anything I can do to help, man, Governor, anything I

1290
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 2: can do to help, let me know in a way,

1291
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 2: let me know if I can help. All Right, you guys,

1292
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: carry on, Let's change the world.

1293
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you Bill.