WEBVTT - Breaking Down the Big Week 10 Games 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:06.920 And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.200 What's up everybody? Welcome to move the stacks, DJ, Bucky 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.360 Rhett with you. As we look back at a I 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.120 would say, interesting slate of week ten games. Buck, How 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:16.720 are you doing today? 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.840 Man? Man, I'm great, I am great. Just getting back 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.320 from Jacksonville. It was a fun field football festival on 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.560 Sunday watching them all to the vikings. So I can't 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:28.520 wait to comment all about it. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:30.400 No, Indiana have forret today. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.239 By the way, We're on a byeway next week, so 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.120 start on a bye week. So yeah, ten and zero. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.760 Just feeling feeling good and we'll bring that. We'll bring 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:40.920 that back ahead of Ohio State week, don't you worry. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.600 I will say this the if we you know, the 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.239 the late Windows slate needs to take a page out 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.479 of the Early Windows Slate's book. I mean, because well 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.680 it was kind of a snoozer there with those late 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.640 afternoon games, but the early window we had five of 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.880 seven games decided by one score and then six if 0:00:59.920 --> 0:01:03.720 you go back to the ot thriller in Munich, right 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.120 with the Giants and Panthers and all of a sudden, 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.360 Bryce Young's a winner and back to back weeks like 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:09.399 let's go. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:10.600 We've got a week here. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:10.800 Boy. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.199 By the way, great incentive for folks to stick around 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:14.440 for the end of the show because that'll be the 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.240 last game we talked about Giants Panthers. Let's start off 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.720 at the first game we're gonna get into, which is 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.479 Detroit Houston the Sunday Night or the Turnover Fest. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:23.440 Buck. 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.280 I got a chance to the second half of this one. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.479 I was actually called me when I was driving home 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.319 and we were talking about all the turnovers that were 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:31.840 taking place in this game. I mean, I think we 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.120 start there. It's a gritty, gutty win for the Lions. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.040 But just your take on all the mishaps in this one. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.399 Yeah, Well, I'm glad that during my Misseason Awards I 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.080 didn't go too hard for Jered Goff being MVP because 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.640 the five interception turnover Fests just kind of crushed that. 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.520 The visual the optics of seeing him turn the ball 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.480 over time and time again certainly won't help him when 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.520 it comes to that, but I think what it does 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.160 for us is it allows us to see how good 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.840 the Lions are. You talk about interceptions from your franchise quarterback. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.520 And even though one of those was a hail mary, 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.480 most teams can't overcome that. The fact that they were 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.840 able to do it and really do it in resounding 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.440 fashion in the second half. That only speaks about the 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.360 grit and the resiliency and all the toughness that we 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.480 talked about with the Lions, but their ability to bounce back, 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:21.000 find different ways on offense to create scoring opportunities, and 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.560 then their defense being able to step it, step up, 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.200 and step it up. Man, this team has all the 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:27.960 makings of being the best team in the league. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:32.639 Yeah, and again, major credit to them for holding on, right, 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.840 for just holding on every time felt like you know 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.359 you might find something. Bang, another turnover happened, and look, 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.000 two of them were tips, right, and one was a 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:43.079 hail mary. But still seeing that number is shocking, right, 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.080 It's shocking to see a quarterback that had been the 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.600 most efficient quarterback in football all of a sudden start 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.840 turning it over that way. I mean, I think the 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.280 last one was probably the worst one that he was 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.360 trying to throw to Jamison Williams that ends up getting 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:57.639 caught way downfield. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.560 But the thing that I'm I'm moost. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.880 Curious about is is where this this Texans offense has gone. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.320 Where the consistency has gone there? And I get it. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:08.679 They've had receivers kind of shuffling in and out of 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.880 the lineup. Thought maybe Nico Collins was going to be 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.920 back this week. I couldn't quite get activated with the 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.839 hamstring injury. You know, Stephan Diggs now out for the year. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.440 But I think the one thing that's kind of interesting 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.960 to me is just how much this Texans team needs 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.760 the run game to find success this year, which wasn't 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.480 necessarily the case. I mean, like they got a good 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.840 year at a Devin Singletary year ago. Man Joe Mixon 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.440 was bottled up in this game. Alee McNeil was fantastic 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.640 on the interior, he was in the backfield all day long, 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.640 but they couldn't get Joe Mixon going, and so then 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.920 it just felt like the whole thing was out of sync. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:41.840 And CJ. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:43.760 Straw was under pressure a bunch as he has been 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.840 this season. So they got to figure some things out 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.440 here on offense for the Houston Texans team. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.800 This one's for Rhett Buck because Rhett loves it when 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:57.160 I take lyrics of songs and adapt them to the NFL, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.120 and I'm watching watch and the cutups from that, and 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:05.800 all I could think of was, Laremie missed and pass 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.520 pro today. 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:12.560 Oh yeah, J yeah, I gotcha. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.480 Oh my god, I mean, thank you, thank you. I 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:22.760 just needed the curus left. You were in high school? Uh? 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.480 What happened to Laramie Tunsel? Right? This is your team 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.799 that you follow, You've got this is the family affair? 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.600 What the heck happened to him? He was one of 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:30.800 the best tackles in the NFL. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.719 So he's definitely been nicked up this year. I don't 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.360 know how bad it's been. I don't know how much 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.000 of it is is a product of what we're seeing 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.400 out on the field right now. But when your best 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:45.720 guy is having struggles the way that that Tunsil is, 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.200 it certainly filters through. And they made some changes along 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.640 the offensive line, moved Juice Scrugs over the left guard. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.520 And then it made a change at center there. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.839 Too, So they've had trouble across the board, it's felt 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.799 like at different times throughout this season, along the offensive line. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.760 But that is a that is a that is probably 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.359 the most alarming thing, is right when a player like 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.279 that is a big piece of the struggles a mirror 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.919 when CJ. Stroud can't just can't you know, can't count 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.440 on it, right, that's trouble. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.760 Yeah, that's not good. But again, Gutsy went I. I 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.080 was glad you guys mentioned the makeup of those interceptions 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.920 as someone who I'm quite certain still holds the San 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.479 Diego County record for interceptions in one ball game. Six. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.520 By the way, if you're if you're counting at home, 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.320 how do you have five or six interception games? Here's 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:34.840 how you have them. You have them as I did, 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.360 which was like an interception on a Hailmary at the 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.760 end of the half, a fourth and fourth and goal 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.200 interception at the end of the game, a couple tips 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.679 like they start adding up when all that weird stuff 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.840 starts happening. It wasn't quite as bad when I watch 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.640 the golf cutups as I thought it might be, just 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.359 looking at the stat line. And then he made the 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:51.720 throws at the end of the game when they needed 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.160 so a big win for the Detroit Lions. Uh, let's 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.480 stay you know, I think about Detroit in the NFC, 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.160 A team that's that's not far behind them on their 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.440 heels is Philly, who's playing really good ball right now 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.919 against the Dallas Cowboys team that I don't know that 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:05.799 we need to spend enough time. I think we already 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.359 had a funeral for them. I don't really care to 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:09.200 even Yeah. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.680 Some cowboys on there, misery loves company. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.120 It's over, So we don't need to talk much on 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.800 that side of it. But I do want to talk 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.520 on the on the Philly side of it, and Buck, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.120 I'll get over to you on this one. Hurts seven carries, 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.839 fifty six yards, two touchdowns. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:25.520 Yeah. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.400 I just think this is like an underappreciated thing in 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.559 the NFL right now. Derrick Henry is the only runner 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.240 in the NFL with more touchdowns this year than Jalen Hurts. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.120 He's got ten touchdowns. He's going to put up fifteen 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.400 rushing touchdowns every single year. And if we're gonna you know, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:42.920 you go and look at him. There's third and two 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.159 scramble first down in this game. You know, I just 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.000 get the push push, you get a scramble with Lane 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.480 being able to clear some space for him and gets 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.560 a nice run. They run QB power in the red 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.600 zone like it is a major asset to have a 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.960 quarterback that you can do this with. It feels like 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.600 as a high school coach and when I wanted to 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:01.800 actually this buck they can kind of play a high 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.200 school brand of football with Jalen Hurts. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.000 They absolutely can. And I give them credit because Kellen 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.480 Moore has I would say, evolved Jalen hurts game even 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.600 more when you think about when he first kind of 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.040 rose to prominence, it was really in the collegiate system. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.280 They're running quarterback powers and counters and those things. We're 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.960 seeing less of that and more of the traditional pro 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:27.320 style offense with a smattering of Jalen Hurst's special plays 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.840 mixed in there. But this offense has so many weapons. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.240 They have so much firepower. You think about Barkley, the 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.880 two wide receivers on the outside, AJ Brown and Devonte Smith. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.640 Dallas gotta get to control of the middle offensive line. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.200 They really can win in a variety of ways. And 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.320 I know we've kind of penciled in the Detroit Lions 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.520 as the class of the NFC, but as this team 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.560 is trending, by season's in, we might be talking about 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.280 the Philadelphia Eagles being the best team in the NFC 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.880 and the team that's most likely to challenge in the 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.360 Super Bowl because they have all the piece of theopozzals, 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:01.239 particularly on offense. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.800 This is how they did it right, This is this 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.360 was their blueprint two years ago. Right, they were a 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.520 grinded out, I mean, not so grinding. They could still make, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.040 you know, make their head in the pass game, but 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:17.000 like they were definitely you know, finding production on the 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.800 ground one hundred and eighty seven yards in this game. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.080 You know, hert said fifty six of them, as you mentioned, DJ, 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:22.000 but Saquon. 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.520 Barkley still does his part with sixty six and I 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.840 just feel like that gives them so much more. 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.760 A wider pathway right to victory. 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.439 And it just feels like it with these Nick Sirianni 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.520 teams when they found success early in his tenure there 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.280 in Philly, they were a force to be reckoned with 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.080 on the ground. Saquon Barkley has brought that back. And 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.080 then Jalen Hurts with that piece. I mean, the fact 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.760 that he's got ten touchdowns this year to count on, 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.400 you know, sixty points from your quarterback on the ground 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:50.920 over the course of the first ten games is a 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.920 pretty good deal right there. And obviously still a lot 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.640 left to go here, So that piece of it I 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.200 think is big. I think on the flip side, you know, 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.440 also coming back to you on this DJ with the Cowboys, 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.280 you know, Michael Parsons, you know you had the Ceedee 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.600 Lambs Sunshine issue with the windows. You had Michael Parsons 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.840 kind of saying, you know, I played for Zach Martin, 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.760 not necessarily for Mike McCarthy. I know, we're not gonna 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.040 spend a lot of time on the Cowboys. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:14.720 Man. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:20.880 It is like everywhere you look, there's a problem, quarterback, problem, 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:26.520 head coach, problem, star players, you know, with comments that way. 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.520 Yeah, problem, Yeah. I don't know how you come back 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:29.880 from that. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:31.679 Well. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.840 I was just brought back to a conversation I had 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.720 just kind of milling around the team out there at 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.600 training camp and talking to some folks, you know, some 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.000 inside the organization and others just that are dialed in 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.920 with the team out of training camp, and a theme 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.920 kind of emerged because if you remember, at that time, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.440 we have no Dak Prescott deal, Ceedee Lamb's not there, 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.800 and then there's the Mica contract that's kind of looming, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.640 and it came up in conversation with everyone. It was 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.959 pretty consistent they'll get Dack done. That'll happen. They're not 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.600 going to let Dak leave. He'll get that done. Ceedee lamb. 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.280 That's that's just a matter of time. They'll figure that out. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.920 And Micah Parsons I got a lot of that's interesting. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.040 I will see. We'll see on that one, you know. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:17.600 And I was just kind of like, I mean, this 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:22.200 is a darn good player, but I don't know, you know, 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.720 it's it's it's getting to the point now where where 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.400 this team is this year, they have to make the 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.880 decision and and Buck, you can put a bow on 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.360 this for us, and I think that we would all 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.240 agree it's probably going to be it for Mike McCarthy 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.199 after this year's over. That's why I don't really want 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.120 to spend much time on what you know, players and 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.480 Mike or wherever. Think of Mike McCarthy. I think that's over. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.520 But what is going to be the next step for 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.120 them is what's the real Cowboys? Is it the team 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.719 that's that's had these twelve win seasons or did they 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.600 fall off the cliff? And this is where they are 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.040 in reality right now? This team, So are we going 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.560 to sell off some assets and maybe try and go 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.000 to the bottom to get back up to the time. 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:02.760 Are we just are we going to be arrogant and 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.560 say we're the Dallas Cowboys. We don't ever do that, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.360 and we're just gonna pretend everything's fine. We get right 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.080 back up to being a double digit winning team next 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.400 year with a different coach. I mean, that's the decision 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:12.240 they've got to make. Buck. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.439 Yeah, the decision they have to make is not only 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.480 like personnel wise, I think before you even do that, 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.120 I think you got to figure out what is the 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.520 culture of this team. And I know that's the buzzword 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.360 that people get tired of. It is thrown out there. 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:30.640 But honestly, Michael Parsons gave exhibit A on bad culture 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.480 because some of those comments they should be internal. They 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.319 should never hit our ears when you're talking about what 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.960 you think about your coach, what you think about winning 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.120 for your teammates, and those things. Because what he did 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:46.439 is he basically just smudged all the things that Mike 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.839 McCarthy has accomplished throughout his career. In his time in Dallas. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.959 You talked about three twelve wins seasons DJ last year. 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.520 We can go back and look, they probably overachieved to 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.640 get the twelve wins and we can talk about the 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.000 debacle that was the playoffs. I don't know how good 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.520 this team is, but for Micah Parsons, the big thing 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.800 is when the next coach or the next whoever's in 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:10.199 charge comes in, they gotta determine is the juice worth 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.080 the squeeze. He's a phenomenal player, but he's also, in 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.680 my mind, a distracted player when you think about the 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.040 podcast and all the other stuff that's kind of around him. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.680 Everybody loves the personality. Everybody can respect outspokenness, but when 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.319 it comes at the expense of the team, it's problematic. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.719 The Cowboys have to decide who they are and they 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.800 have to build it from inside out. When it comes 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.160 to the culture, then find the players that fit that. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.160 We'll see if number eleven is a big fit. I 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.840 love the production. I just don't know if it's some 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:42.680 stuff you can build around. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.160 Yeah, I'm gonna get to I'm gonna tease the conversation 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:47.920 we're gonna have coming up a little bit later on, 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.320 because I do. We're gonna look at one team that's 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.640 got a collective pass rush, and it got me thinking, 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.120 and it's an interesting conversation, talk about these elite, elite, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.400 elite guys, these elite individual players. A lot of teams 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.600 in this league are winning with a collection of good 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.000 and not an individual great. I want to have that 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.559 conversation later, which you know, we'll kind of pick up 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.400 where we left off here. All right, let's flush this conversation. 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.520 Let's get to another game here with them, since and 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:14.599 the new coach. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:15.959 I know where you're going. 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.559 I decide what we're talking about. I don't want to 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:23.640 talk about that. I had too. Twenty to seventeen the 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.400 Saints team that I had seen in person, that will 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.280 look terrible. I mean, I've seen some bad teams this 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.199 year in person, and I'm sure Bucky has as well. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.840 But uh man, that's that's a good win for them 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.960 against the Atlanta Falcons twenty to seventeen. Derek Carr as 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.640 an efficient day, plays well, they get Darren Rizzio wins, 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.840 so good, good story for him, good for for that team, 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.880 that organization. After you know, kind of what's been a 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.800 tumultuous a few weeks here as they've been playing some 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.880 some rough ball RTT. I want to get to you 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.840 on the Saints side of things. But before we do that, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.360 I'm gonna I'm gonna give you my first saucy now 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.960 a right, ready, we're ready for a saucy no, yeah yeah. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.840 Atlanta Falcons, guys, what is the same conversation we have 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.200 with this team every single spring we do draft shows together. 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.599 We've been doing them together for us forever. We have 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.920 passh okay, okas, I'm just curious, curious and this one 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.280 buck They had zero sacks in this game. Oh okay, interesting, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.080 how are you out this year? Nine? Oh, they've got 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.600 nine sacks and we're in week ten of the season. 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:21.960 Grady Jarrett Rhett is leading them with two and a 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.520 half sacks. Matt Judon has one and a half. It 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.160 is amazing to me. This might be the I don't 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.280 know if a team that's had a specific issue non 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.600 quarterback related, that they have been unable to solve, like 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.560 the Atlanta Falcons in this past rush. It is bizarre 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:37.840 to me that they can't figure that out. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.800 Rhet that's right. What was it two years ago? 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.040 Went and got Arnold Wakatie out of Penn State in 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.880 the second round. Man, you gotta go back to Vic Beasley. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.600 You know who has a one year wonder out of 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.040 Clenson as a first round pick. Was that almost ten 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.000 years ago now, and it's been a problem ever since. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.600 And I mean, look, give the credit for going trying 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.760 to go get met Judon and make happened. I mean, 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.520 they clearly understand the problem. But there needs to be 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.840 a you know, a bigger fixed there, right. I mean 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:08.600 I think you know, you could obviously look at this 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.040 year's draft and say, yeah, sure Jared Verse would have helped, 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.640 or sure Dallas Turner might have helped, or maybe lay 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:17.040 out to a lot too, but you know, on yeah, 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:18.000 but keep. 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.280 Moving on on that one. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.280 But they decided to go, you know, for the future 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.320 a quarterback, and certainly understand that that line. 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:26.000 Of thinking as well. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:30.680 But for the present day Atlanta Falcons, pass rush is 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.120 vital to them staying in the tournament, getting into the 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.040 tournament and staying there and having a run Like it's 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.200 just not gonna have it. If you can allow you know, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.320 Derek Carr to sit back there and find Mark Weisvaldez 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:45.240 canting twice for touchdowns relatively unfettered, that that's just I 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.240 don't know, I mean, you can't find it now, right, 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:48.560 I mean we're gonna have to be talking about this 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:49.240 again this spring. 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.480 Yeah, it's one thing that we can count on. Like 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.760 the first in the fifteenth we go ahead to talk 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.640 about that Falcons searching for a pass rush because this 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.000 is what they're able to do, and it really doesn't 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:06.200 matter how they try and fix it, reagency, the draft, trade, 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.920 whatever it is, they haven't been able to get it done. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.280 But man, it's the most important part. When we talk 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.560 about team building, we talk about quarterback, do we talk 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.000 about pass rush, and you got to be able to 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.960 throw it. You got to be able to close games out. 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.120 Their inability to close games out with the pass rush 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.000 has kept them from achieving what many would say is 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.440 like a high sealing potential. I don't know where they 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.800 go because Matt Juni can do so much, but nine 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.800 sacks ten games that that's not good enough to get 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.360 it done. And it'll never be good enough to get 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:37.560 it done if you can't get back again. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.760 We You know, it's interesting too when you look at 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.240 that because they also drafted Zach Harrison right out of 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:46.880 Ohio State, who was a very highly recruited kid up 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.040 at Ohio State. Never quite lived up to the billing 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.640 as one of like the next edge rusher, Bucky. You 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.840 talk about this a lot like sack production in college 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:59.240 generally translates. Well, when you don't have sack production in college, 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.240 you wonder does that also then translate. I mean, because 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.159 I don't know that we've seen it there from that 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.399 side either. That That's just one of those things to 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.800 think about when we continue to evaluate players going into 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:11.480 the draft this year. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.720 Yeah, I think that's I mean, death tax is in 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.520 a spring talking about the Atlanta Falcons looking for a. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.320 Draft though it makes it easy. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.600 They're not going to take one. They're not going to 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.600 take one, but put one in there and look at comments. 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.000 Look at the comments in that mock draft aren't either 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:36.359 like they're not taking it. They'll never they won't do anyways. Anyways, 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:37.840 we're getting I just need to get the first one. 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.959 The spring is the spring is a little bit off. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.000 Let's not get too carried away, all right, We've got 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.200 plenty more to get to here. Let's be patient, let's 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:52.639 pace ourselves. And that seems to be the theme for 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.800 the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't know how, I just 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.160 they find a way, They find a way to make 0:17:58.160 --> 0:17:59.760 a play the other team finds a way to not 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.200 make play, but it is. It's pretty remarkable the way 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:04.879 they were able to get to the finish line in 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.240 this game sixteen to fourteen, A game that almost felt like, 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.840 you know, keeping an eye on it. I was at 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.960 the Charger game, put an eye on that game. I 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:15.720 felt like, gosh, it looks like the whole game was 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.439 being played on the chief side of the field. Like 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.720