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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this

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<v Speaker 1>is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get down to do it. Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it, then we're about to let you. Now it's all.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to welcome a workmate, a person who is

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<v Speaker 1>she's pretty talented, UM reporter, television host for of course, NFL, networking,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other things, and from Toronto, miss everything,

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<v Speaker 1>cut to it. Please welcome Rachel, but I'll miss every boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, thanks guys, thanks for having me. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at your career stuff because you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>when you work with someone, you don't necessarily know all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things they've done. And I mean, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. You've been hustling since You've been hustling

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<v Speaker 1>since toil. But I know you've been hustling toil, but

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<v Speaker 1>you've been hustled a lot longer than that. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>hustling since I've been twelve yea, because she's also she's

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<v Speaker 1>also one of three other brothers, so that's she's one

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<v Speaker 1>of three brothers. So that is like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>only girl. I've got three older brothers. And as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I tell people that, they're like, oh, okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>you make sense. Do you know why that is? I

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<v Speaker 1>assume it's because I'm a I'm a tomboy and I'm tough,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, one of the guys. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>how I've always taken it. Let me sit my tea.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to do with more of your personality. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a father of four and I got three boys

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<v Speaker 1>and one girl, and so I can I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter listens to this periodically. So where is the

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<v Speaker 1>girl in the age spectrum? Well, before our last she

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<v Speaker 1>was technically in the middle. She was the second oldest, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's soon to be seventeen and seven. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's a girl. So it's kind of that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, like, what was me, but it's that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're the girl, so you are used to

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<v Speaker 1>the spotlight. Yeah, I guess. So there's also a huge

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<v Speaker 1>age difference between me and my and all my brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the oldest one is thirteen years older than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it goes ten years older than me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it goes eight years older than me, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge gap between me and my youngest brother, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's me. So it's weird. It's like I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of an only child and the youngest because

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I got to like high school or

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<v Speaker 1>even middle school, they were all gone. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>I got that like I was only the one in

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<v Speaker 1>the house. And then I also got I was a

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<v Speaker 1>part of a huge family. Yeah, generally the only girl

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<v Speaker 1>gets the middle child syndrome without being the middle child.

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<v Speaker 1>So does that mean that I just like I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get attention because that doesn't check out. You

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<v Speaker 1>snitch on yourself. I'm not dryt niche in the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that work with me, honest about that was the rule.

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<v Speaker 1>You come across like you're very needy. Sorry, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>not the first time I read that. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you our second interaction, and I have to I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say it so you Obviously Rachel's been on

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<v Speaker 1>for a while on the network. However, in COVID, we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to like actually introduce ourselves to each

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<v Speaker 1>other in personal so you know, I worked from the house,

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<v Speaker 1>she's working in studio or I'm in studio, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just missing each other. So I met Rachel second time

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<v Speaker 1>I met you, because I don't remember the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very brief. So I said, hey, Rachel, Steve Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>you go, I met you before. Okay, check that off

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<v Speaker 1>the box, that's what you said. I was like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. There's so many people that work here. But see,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm intentional, like I don't ever want to come across

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm snooty, like, oh, I don't speak to people,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was making sure I spoke. And also too,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like being in the house for two you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being ready for some interaction. Just you see all we

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<v Speaker 1>we hired a few new people, so I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're new, he's new. I've never been a part of

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<v Speaker 1>a company that has so many people working as like talent,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I came from Fox and there's only you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only our set lineup of so many shows. But

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Network there's like reporters and hosts and analysts and

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<v Speaker 1>all of these people. It's really cool to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of you don't need to employee, cook out or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to meet something, pizza party, No we met. We

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<v Speaker 1>know we met a six flags something. No we met,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, I'll just talk. I blame you hr pizza

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<v Speaker 1>party that we do. So I'm still like experiencing new

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<v Speaker 1>things here. And apparently there's like a talent Summit. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they call it, and every literally all the

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<v Speaker 1>every single person at NFL network gets together in the

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<v Speaker 1>summer and does exactly this. We just haven't gotten to

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<v Speaker 1>that yet. I'm book of my work exactly at those games.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm joking. I'm choking. But all right, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. Let's go. We're gonna start off with some

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<v Speaker 1>some good little ice breakers. You ready, okay, Yeah, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>A little quick quiz, like a little riddle, which is

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<v Speaker 1>faster hotter cold, cold hot because you can easily catch

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<v Speaker 1>a cold. That is Gerard, Gerard, damn you lying? And

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it was it was terrible, It was,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was I'm on it all right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the last play song on your playlist that

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<v Speaker 1>you just you know, the last song you heard today

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<v Speaker 1>or yesterday. Um. I recently downloaded TikTok, which has been

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<v Speaker 1>the worst thing that I could have ever doubt I get.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I just need to turn my brain off. I

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<v Speaker 1>have O c D, so my brain is just constantly going.

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<v Speaker 1>So sometimes I just need to sit down and turn

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<v Speaker 1>my brain off. And I do that by now TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>And that stupid Harry Styles song is all over TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>So whatever the new Harry Styles is, it's not stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a jam. But that's what I last listened to.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it hard to believe that you don't like TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>You like, you're like a content creator, so why don't you?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I think I'm always so late to things

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<v Speaker 1>like I think that I uh, like I started in

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube and I was like, I'm not starting to my

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<v Speaker 1>own YouTube channel, Like I just don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just don't want that to be my things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not no, I'm not saying that it's the right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what you know. I was watching the Met the Red Carpet,

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<v Speaker 1>like half of them are influencers. Such such an old

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<v Speaker 1>school way of thinking, but I still have that mentality

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<v Speaker 1>of being like, you know, I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>like known as a TikTok or YouTuber, like I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be all of these things. I think that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always just like hesitant to join. And also I know

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<v Speaker 1>that I get sucked into these like wormholes of content

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<v Speaker 1>and then I end up sitting back and watching instead

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<v Speaker 1>of making that. That is something that I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get caught doing. So having TikTok on my phone just

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<v Speaker 1>means that I'm always on it, which sucks. Since you

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<v Speaker 1>play volleyball, favorite, what guys just really did some deep

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<v Speaker 1>deep diving you obviously obviously you have not worked with

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<v Speaker 1>I've never kind of we never really come in half

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<v Speaker 1>as I love this. Yeah, So so what position did

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<v Speaker 1>you play in volleyball? And what position did you what's

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<v Speaker 1>your dream position to play? Okay, so, because of my height,

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<v Speaker 1>I was always put in the libra position, which is

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<v Speaker 1>basically a designated passer. You're always in the back court.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes I would get to play power left side,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like just the cranker hitter you have. I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't really jump, so I would I would have

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<v Speaker 1>this like amazing approach and then I'd get like this

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<v Speaker 1>high off the ground and just slice it right into

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<v Speaker 1>the net and then back to libra, back to Libra,

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<v Speaker 1>you go, but I really had this. I would listen

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<v Speaker 1>to like I remember my my pump up song with

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<v Speaker 1>Gasolina back then, and I just went in warmups. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>just go for these amazing hits and just net every time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was I was the designated pastor. That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you pick? I think it was just like hot

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and it got my blood boiling. If

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<v Speaker 1>you could redo, what song would you pick now? Gasolina?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably classic still still gets me going. Why not? You're

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<v Speaker 1>going going nowhere? Though? That is listening into the net athletically,

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<v Speaker 1>just as a parent, because so my daughter played volleyball,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm yeah, so she was a liberal. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not actually killing in the height department, but she

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<v Speaker 1>can jump serve. Did I say, Libra I met Libero.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it removed. I am definite. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about Bross. I do too, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just let it go. What about I haven't played

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<v Speaker 1>in like ten years? Who I was just letting she

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<v Speaker 1>got it? And uh, well that makes sense now why

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<v Speaker 1>you can never hit it over the neck? Most Liberos

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're not hitting it over the net, no man.

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<v Speaker 1>But I loved watching I love watching um volleyball, also

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<v Speaker 1>hate watching girls volleyball. Here here's the love and the hate.

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<v Speaker 1>The love is I always loved watching like in the

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<v Speaker 1>warm up because you see the ones that's coming, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just me being an athlete, I like to

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<v Speaker 1>try to pick out can't play, can't play, can't play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just because that's what No, no, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>for me. It's it's a good measuring stick of sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the football world and sports we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how many how many Tarzan's have walked through the door

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<v Speaker 1>and not played like Tarzan, right, So it gives me

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity. I love the home she looks like she

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<v Speaker 1>could play, or he looks like he can, or she

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<v Speaker 1>looked like she can't. And then you got the one

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<v Speaker 1>that has all the gear, like all the fresh gear,

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<v Speaker 1>can't play a lick. I had the like ankle brasis

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<v Speaker 1>for what I had, the wrist guards, I had all

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<v Speaker 1>my fingers, like I really wanted to show up in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym and like people are probably like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this bro's gonna destroy us, and then I just like

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<v Speaker 1>stay on the bench. I also notice in young sports

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously and I'm speaking from a female's a female

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<v Speaker 1>volleyball because my daughter is a female, and that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I watched was female volleyball. Right. One thing I noticed

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<v Speaker 1>by young girls, you can see the moment of shift

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<v Speaker 1>quickly in a women's volleyball game. You can see it

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth, the momentum leaves so quickly, and

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<v Speaker 1>the emotions of mistakes happening, and you can see how

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<v Speaker 1>how a team can rally or not rally, or or

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally they're spent. So I spent so many Saturdays and Sundays,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we played Big South. That was every year

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. Uh, even if it was Easter Sunday were

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<v Speaker 1>they were playing, and just watch watching it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I really learned a lot about people, right. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you also, you know when you say an adults, you

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<v Speaker 1>watch people you're watching, You're watching people that volleyball game.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a real good, good sense of people right

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<v Speaker 1>who they are, who they are. I also think it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that you bring it up. It's kind of made

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<v Speaker 1>me feel like when I was playing. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>was playing for my college, we would always travel with

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<v Speaker 1>the men's team, and the men's team was like just

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<v Speaker 1>so on a totally different level than us. They were

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<v Speaker 1>like winning things and they always just kept it together.

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<v Speaker 1>And because we I just feel like, you know, females

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<v Speaker 1>are inherently more emotional. If something started to shift, like

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<v Speaker 1>that momentum change that you were talking about, we would

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<v Speaker 1>just completely break down. We would start fighting with each

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<v Speaker 1>other like we were just we wanted to be so

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<v Speaker 1>good and we had that skill like in practice, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when we went out on the field, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were actually playing games, it would just complete

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<v Speaker 1>we fall apart because we were so emotional about it. Mhm.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you a mittnute. We'll talk about that later.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you from in a place you call your hometown.

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<v Speaker 1>I am from this very very small town, like two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half hours outside of Toronto. I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>on forty six acres of land. I had many little

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little four wheeler. I had a dirt bike.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the name of what's the name of the town

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<v Speaker 1>or no Ontario? It's Toronto without the teas or now okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where I grew up. I think also that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I get a lot of my like creativity from.

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<v Speaker 1>It is because there was literally nothing to do. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no one around. We didn't have next door neighbors acres.

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<v Speaker 1>Your neighbor is forty five acres. There was so we

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<v Speaker 1>we had to you know, I had to create like

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<v Speaker 1>my own world. So how and how was that growing

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<v Speaker 1>up with all of your brothers gone? So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you and mom, dad, grandma. Yeah, it was me and

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and my dad, and I was just My

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<v Speaker 1>dad was a very like outdoorsy guy, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>had a really special relationship with him. We would like build.

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<v Speaker 1>I like I bought my house, um like two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago now, at the beginning of the pandemic. I built

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<v Speaker 1>a deck on my own deck. I built a sauna outside,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have all of these like back of my

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<v Speaker 1>brain skills. Not a lot of people last I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm watching that work, I did not go she

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<v Speaker 1>looks like she built a deck or two. Cool. I

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<v Speaker 1>think when we bought this house, we were kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we could pay somebody to do all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, but it was the beginning of the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>and we were to do at home and there was

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else to do. And so I faced one of

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers, No, probably not, but we were like screw

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<v Speaker 1>it FaceTime one of my brothers, and I was just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>give me like the overall scope on how to do

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<v Speaker 1>this and I'll go and do it. And he was

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<v Speaker 1>like just do this, this and this, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>like sweet. And I was at lows that afternoon buying wood.

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<v Speaker 1>So acres, do you have animals? We always had dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, it wasn't like a farm. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>big pond so we could go fishing, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>creeks like streams running all throughout our properties, so we

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<v Speaker 1>would fish a lot um, but no, none of our

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<v Speaker 1>own like like cows or anything kind of dogs. My

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<v Speaker 1>dad used to hunt, which is like but um, so

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<v Speaker 1>he had hunting dogs, so he had um like bloodhounds

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. I have two little ships now that are

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<v Speaker 1>not hunting dogs, and they got toms with it. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? One's name lou sure for Lucifer. That

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<v Speaker 1>gives you an idea of what these countries those dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one's name Lucifer was the other one Bentley.

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<v Speaker 1>What what what breed are there? Once a Chihuahua psychotic

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<v Speaker 1>and then the other is a terrier. But they're both rescued,

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<v Speaker 1>so they just come with a whole slew of issues,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you just kind of kind of work

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<v Speaker 1>through them. You trying to say a thing. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think so. Yeah, that's why. That's why exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>call them, what you call them say, I love them.

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<v Speaker 1>Rescue dogs. You gotta be careful of One of them

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<v Speaker 1>used to bite me for about a year, but then

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<v Speaker 1>we got past up. We all got to work the

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<v Speaker 1>different but it was it was a chihuahua. Like his

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<v Speaker 1>mouth is like the size of my thumb. We did

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<v Speaker 1>the Lucifer name kick in before after ye six months

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<v Speaker 1>into the bit or No, she's not the bier, she's

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<v Speaker 1>not the fighter, she's just she was just like a

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<v Speaker 1>little terror when we got her, and she wouldn't listen

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<v Speaker 1>to us, So Lou became her name pretty quickly. I

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<v Speaker 1>got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for.

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<v Speaker 1>A brother, cut to a podcast dot com tell us

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<v Speaker 1>your journey. I mean, I'm reading all the information. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to skip over and and say which. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a really weird, really weird way of how I

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<v Speaker 1>came into this. Basically when I was in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>My whole life, I've always wanted to be an actress.

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<v Speaker 1>And my dad died when I was sixteen, and that

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<v Speaker 1>through It's okay, it's been a long time, it's through

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life out of whack, and everything kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got put on the back burner and I just started

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<v Speaker 1>to be, I guess like scared of life. And so

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, I couldn't to get into

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<v Speaker 1>theater school. You have to audition, and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't do that right now. So I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going to school for broadcast journalism because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the next best thing, what's the what's the way

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<v Speaker 1>that I can still be in front of a camera

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of like slowly work my way into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to school in Toronto for broadcast journalism. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And about two years in I went to Seneca College,

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<v Speaker 1>just like a really just small, small school. Two years in,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, um, my favorite class in school is

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<v Speaker 1>improv And I was like, I'm clearly still doing the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong thing. So I dropped out of school and before

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<v Speaker 1>I got to apply to go back to I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back to school for theater. Finally got

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<v Speaker 1>the courage to do it. Um. I was working at

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<v Speaker 1>a bar at the time. I was so poor that

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<v Speaker 1>I was having to steal toilet paper from the sushi

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant that was down the street from my apartment. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was just so broke, And so I was applying

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<v Speaker 1>for all of these jobs and on my Facebook was

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<v Speaker 1>a job that said the Toronto FC Dream Job Contest.

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<v Speaker 1>Toronto C was our major league soccer team in Toronto.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't know anything about soccer.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I'm not interested in covering sports. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have two years of broadcast journalism experience under my belt.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to be on TV. Cannot stop you

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<v Speaker 1>before that, though, because I want to you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>was your what what was your mental state to the

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<v Speaker 1>point of like I'll volunteer something. I I remember there

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<v Speaker 1>were times I just still food right because we're struggling, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I had me and my wife when we had our

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<v Speaker 1>son in college, I had to literally I got up. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't heard this story, but I actually got up,

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<v Speaker 1>unscrewed the license plate off to our car, drove in

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<v Speaker 1>like at five thirty in the morning, six o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, drove to the grocery store, told my wife

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<v Speaker 1>make a list of all things we needed, which was

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<v Speaker 1>diapers and all that stuff, loaded up the shopping cart

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<v Speaker 1>and left through it in trunk and drove off. And

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<v Speaker 1>I struggled. I didn't struggle to do it. I struggled

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<v Speaker 1>after because I knew at some point I probably would

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<v Speaker 1>have to do it again. And that's why I'm asking

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<v Speaker 1>not to make fun, but just more to hear where

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<v Speaker 1>you are. Because where you are today you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to think about toilet paper. But there's people listening that

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<v Speaker 1>can identify with, that can identify with so much more.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you, you out of your story, may not

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<v Speaker 1>even realize that you can give somebody some hope. That

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why that's why I'm asking not to make

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<v Speaker 1>fun or make light of it, but really shine a

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<v Speaker 1>light on where you started and how you got through it,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if we're talking about all the people of mental

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<v Speaker 1>health these days right now, they don't identify. The pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>has shown us that we that what we think who

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<v Speaker 1>we are, we're actually not right. Some people and then

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<v Speaker 1>some people you exactly who you are. There are people

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<v Speaker 1>in the pandemic. The relationships have strengthened, things have been

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<v Speaker 1>weeded out and started to uproot and clarity throughout relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's other some other relationships. People have been Domestic

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<v Speaker 1>violence numbers are up, suicide numbers were all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, I'm not trying to make fun of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more of trying to sit down with you and

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<v Speaker 1>go through that process because if you really think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>where you are today. I watch you on TV. You're great.

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<v Speaker 1>You do a hell of a job. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>have never said I thought this girl that struggle so much.

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<v Speaker 1>She dropped out of school, she also had to steal

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<v Speaker 1>toilet paper, she lost her dad, she's built a deck,

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<v Speaker 1>she's done a sana. Wow, that's impressive. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's when I was younger, my parents

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<v Speaker 1>were We weren't you know, I wasn't. We weren't like

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<v Speaker 1>rich by any means, but we were definitely comfortable and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was had his own company, and my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was a school secretary. And then when my dad died, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we were all of a sudden on the other end

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<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum. So the same as like me feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like I was a part of a big family and

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<v Speaker 1>also an only child old. I was once comfortable and

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<v Speaker 1>felt like I was always going to be taken care of,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that got totally taken away from me, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, I was having exactly exactly

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<v Speaker 1>So still in the back of my mind, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so blessed that I'm able to own my own home

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<v Speaker 1>and I have things. But because I went through that

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<v Speaker 1>trauma as a child basically of sixteen, I have that

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<v Speaker 1>fear of everything being taken away at any point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have that at three. Yeah. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, if you have that trauma in your life,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll always kind of have it, not by yourself, keep

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<v Speaker 1>going by yourself. Um. So I think that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a point in time where after my dad died, he

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<v Speaker 1>died when like a couple of months before I graduated

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<v Speaker 1>high school. UM, and so then I when I moved

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<v Speaker 1>into the city that summer and my first semester, I

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<v Speaker 1>totally failed every single class. I got pulled from my

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<v Speaker 1>volleyball team. I wasn't able to place worts anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so depressed. I didn't know what to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>my aunt was like having to pay my rent. My

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<v Speaker 1>mom was like spending the little money that she had

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<v Speaker 1>to like send me. I wasn't able to work because

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<v Speaker 1>I was in an athlete and you know, in school.

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<v Speaker 1>And it got to this point where I had to

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<v Speaker 1>like show my mom my grades when I went home

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<v Speaker 1>for like whatever the fall or Christmas, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>so upset. And see seeing her be that upset, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, I do not need to add to

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<v Speaker 1>the ship that my mom is going through. When I

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<v Speaker 1>came back, I just like I just like I shook

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<v Speaker 1>myself and I was like, you can't do this to her,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't do this to my dad. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down with my dad right before he died,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm gonna take care of mom

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<v Speaker 1>in this family, Like I fucking got this. And I

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<v Speaker 1>told him that, like he heard me say those words,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just like snapped it, just like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best way that I can put it. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you're talking to two brothers. We know what

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<v Speaker 1>snap is now. Yeah, even I know where you're going

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<v Speaker 1>with losing the parents, and I just went through that.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to make this at all about me or to

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<v Speaker 1>interrupt your story, but also it's very relatable to where

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<v Speaker 1>when my father passed away last year, I had that

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. And and not to again up end, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you witness someone passed away and when they asked

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<v Speaker 1>you a question of what they ever did, it snapped

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<v Speaker 1>in me to to look within myself and say, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever want my kids to have to I want

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<v Speaker 1>to have to ask my kids at my end of

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<v Speaker 1>life what did I do and what my impact was?

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been and I literally snapped after that, So

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<v Speaker 1>I know, like, and it's a perfect word because that

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<v Speaker 1>is literally the feeling that you have when you lose

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<v Speaker 1>a parent, whether you are close with them or whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're not close with them. When you lose parents and

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<v Speaker 1>when you have such raw emotions that are either tapped

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<v Speaker 1>consciously or subconsciously, it will come out and you and

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<v Speaker 1>you will snap. So that's the perfect you know adjective

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<v Speaker 1>for that. You too. You too, I think are in

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<v Speaker 1>the place two year at that age where you're things

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>are still recoverable. And I think when things are still recoverable,

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>when you lose your parents, it hits you different. You know, Um,

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what you guys are going through, what you

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>went through, g and then what you went through. I

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>went through it in the middle of my season when

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I lost my grandpa. Right, you know, the uh to

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>lose someone that's a father figure, that that that pours

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>into that gives you at times, right, you know, Ge

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you talking about you know, And we've had this conversation

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that Gee when he lost his proberty was like, man,

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to And I kept talking him off

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the ledge of saying, right, you're striving for something that

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you've already he surpassed. He's already surpassed that. Uh Tyson

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and me and his two kids always will know that

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>they will get an unqualified compliment from their dad, right

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and me, I never got an unqualified compliment from my dad.

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>My dad is still living. And I used that word

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>unqualified as because especially for me, in a way, I

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>was I grew up. I'm not sure about you two.

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know about G, but I'm playing dumb

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>completely for the context. I don't know me growing up

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>what uh? I don't know exactly, but I do know today, unqualified,

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>unqualified compliment, what that would have done to me and

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>how it impacted me, because even today I still I

0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>have to diligently accept compliments mhm right. And hearing you snap,

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>knowing G, hearing him snap, watching him snap. I know

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>G went through what he went through with his dad

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and his watching his dad passed away, sitting on his bed,

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>what driving up to see his dad every single day,

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And and you're talking to your dad right. There is

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the part that I struggle with is you both got

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity and most people don't get which is you

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>get to see. Unfortunately I got on the airplane a

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>couple of days later and I had to say my

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>goodbye to my grandpa at the bottom of the hospital

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>in the corner's office with a lifeless body. You guys

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>got to kiss whole cry and you you beat it.

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>You guys snapped and you beat it. Rachel, You're you're all.

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>You're awesome. And to see and to know now after

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>this to watch you on the show, it gives even

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>more texture. Mm hmm, Well, how awesome you thanks guys,

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Yeah, it's been it's it's been a ride.

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like ever since, and I don't

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>know if you guys experienced the same moment, like post snapping,

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you just you put your head down, and that's exactly

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>what I did. And I just like, I went to

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.239
<v Speaker 1>school every single day. I got my grades way up.

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I got to the point that I was so strong

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>in what I was feeling and thinking. I was like,

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in school for the right thing. I didn't

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>drop out because I was, you know, not wanting to

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>go to school. I was like, I am not serving

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>myself in the right way. Like that. That's how much

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like of a full turn that I had when I

0:30:57.240 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>was in school, and so I I dropped out. I

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>applied for this for this contest um because I was

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>so desperate to work at this point. Because at this point,

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I was just like I want to I want to

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>send money to my mom, I want to help her.

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I wanna help my brothers, like everyone who was going

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>through their own thing. Also, all my brothers are artists,

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not you know, you're you're supporting yourself, and it's

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it's tough, it's a struggle. Um. And so I applied

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>for this contest, I know, knowing nothing about soccer. You

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>had to like send in a send in a video

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of yourself. Why should you be hired? And I wrote

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>this comedy sketch and made my whole I went back

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to school and had such a great relationship with my professors.

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>They shot it for me, and I had my old

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>classmates be in it with me. And I beat out

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>over five hundred people for this job. I even had

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>when I went in for my final interview, I had

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the captain's name written down on my hand and ink like.

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:00.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, fake it till you make it. I

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I won, and I still remember my mom was there

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>when my name was called, and I was just like,

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna make forty. I'm gonna make forty. It

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>was a whole yearly salary, like what you want a

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>career basically forty grand I was like, I can take

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>care of myself. I can buy myself groceries. I can

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe even send money on to my mom. I can

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, pay my rent on time? My whole life

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>change in a second. Just hearing my name get called

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>my life change. And since that moment, I've like, Okay,

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do sports now, and I'm gonna do sports

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>until I keep on climbing and climbing and climbing. And

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>about a year later, I got an email from the

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>head office because this was when YouTube was first starting,

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>so Torontovious basically gave me the keys to their YouTube

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and was like, here's your new job. And so I

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>started making weird videos. And then the head office called

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>about a year later and they were like, would you

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>ever consider moving to New York City and being the

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>host of the entire league. We've been watching what you're doing.

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>You're so fun, you're so different, Like, we think that

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>would be perfect here. So then I moved to New

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>York City. And then within six months of taking that

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>job and doing the same thing YouTube, YouTube, YouTube, I

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>had a call from Fox and ESPN. I had a

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>job offer in both places, and I got to choose

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>where I went. It's not a bad problem in half

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>do all that? How are you able to keep reinventing

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>yourself because there's always something new, There's always a new trend.

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>There's always a new way to consume content. There's always

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe something was shot at one way or

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>something was um you know, sit nuances or whatever. So

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>how are you able to continually reinvent yourself or stay

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>not even with trends, but even it starts to anticipate

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>what's coming out. I think I got really lucky because

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>YouTube was so new and that was my thing. No competition,

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and so it was it was everyone was having to adapt,

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and that is how that's literally how I started. And

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I also think something that it's so cheesy. Everyone always

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>asked me, like how did you break into this business?

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Like how are you continuously like growing, doing more and

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>more and more. And I just think that I've never

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>put myself in any kind of mold, like I've just

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like always been like I'm I don't know how to

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>be anything. I know how stupid it sounds, but I

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.959
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to be anything else but who I am.

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care enough to I don't care enough

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>about what people think to turn into something else. So

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that because I'm into acting, because I'm into comedy,

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that's always been a difference as well, because

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>you know a little while ago. Sports and you know,

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>comedy has always been on the peripherals, and I think

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>it's been working its way in. But I think that

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that's also what set me apart as well, is that

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I've just always been doing something a little bit different

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>than what everyone else has done. So I've been really

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>lucky in that way. How are you balancing going from

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>still in toilet paper to now you have a career,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you're in New York. You gotta a sho mm hmm.

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>First I had to learn how to handle money, which

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 1>is I'm sure as a football player you know about

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 1>as well. Like not that I was making millions of dollars,

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 1>but I had such I had such a lack of

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>how to handle finances because I didn't have any finances

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to handle for the longest time. And I think that

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>happens to a lot of people, and they you know

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that always else financial literacy. You gotta gotta to get literate, right,

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's also I teach in school. They don't teach

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>us how to pay taxes, Like the longest time, I

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't pay taxes and I didn't know for some reason.

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>They teach us protaggy and theorem and stuff. Why do

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I know that? But I didn't know how to balance

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>a Check's a great book, balance checkbook, but I don't

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>know what the hell are you talking about. It's a

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>great point. Um, So I think that that was kind

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of like the first hurdle, And um, I just I

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>think that one time I had my my boss at

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Toronto FC. Once I had moved on and was working

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>for Major League Soccer, I came back to Toronto because

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>they were hosting the like the championship MLS Cup and that,

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>which was a really cool moment for me because I

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>got to come back and people were like, Wow, look

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>at what you've done. And my boss pulled me aside

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, you keep climbing until you cannot

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>climb anymore. And I still think about that to this

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>day now that I'm like, you know, I'm going on

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>auditions all the time, and I have three scripted television

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:47.720
<v Speaker 1>shows in development right now, and like, I just keep

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on climbing until someone says no, And even if they

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>say no, I'm going to ignore it and I'm just

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>going to keep on going and finding different ways to

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>get in. And I just think that it's just that

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>that I still have that you're right. Snapping is the

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>perfect word, because I still have that mentality. I'm still

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>in this mode, and it's not I love it. I

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>love the work that I do, and I love hosting,

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and I love being a part of NFL Network. It

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>has been such a nice change of pace. But it's just,

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you've just got to want it more than

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 1>anybody else in the room. So as you're approaching you've

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>got all these different projects and development, how do you

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:29.959
<v Speaker 1>creatively approach these? Like what inspires you? What do you what? What?

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>What do you pull from? So when you have a

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>new opportunity, when you're sitting down, like what draws your

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>inspiration for your creativity? I have a lightbulb tattooed on

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>my wrist here because I had this idea and I

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 1>just kept on thinking like this, this is really dumb,

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 1>this is stupid, Like it just kind of popped into

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 1>my head one day and it was um. It ended

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>up being the show that I sold the TBS last year.

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought of this idea seven years ago, and I

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>wrote it every which way, and I pitched pitched it

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 1>and pitched it and pitched it and no one would

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 1>buy it. And then finally somebody believed in me. All

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>it takes is one person. And so I got this

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>tattoo of an idea to remind myself that my ideas.

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Not all of them are good, but some of them

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>are and I should roll with it. So sometimes, like um,

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>things just like pop into my head. I get inspired

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>by music or reading something or watching a movie. And

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I read this book a little while ago called Big

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Magic and the Whole. She writes about the meaning of ideas,

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and she talks about picture and idea as you know,

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a fairy, let's call it. And this fairy comes into

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.919
<v Speaker 1>your body. And if you don't give this creature your

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>time and energy and effort, it's gonna leave your body

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to go to somebody else. And that's why,

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, she talks about if you see a commercial

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.359
<v Speaker 1>for an invention, you're like, oh, I had that idea

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a while ago, but you didn't do anything about it,

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>so it left your body and it went to somebody else.

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 1>So I give my time and energy to every idea

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:04.399
<v Speaker 1>that I have, and maybe a lot of ideas. Yeah,

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of things. I write it down,

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I have journals filled with stuff. I give it time

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to see if it fits with me, and if it doesn't,

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>I let it go. And if it does, I write

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 1>it out and I pitch it and I try to

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>make something of it. If it's something that stays in

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 1>my brain and I can't stop thinking about it, that's

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>what tells me that it's with me. Does that sound

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>really hokey pokey I or No, No, it doesn't, it doesn't.

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>It's just it leads me. Two. Assume you're not a

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>very good sleeper. You're not the first. What's you're like

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the third person that said that to me this month?

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I actually am I'm okay, Rane turns off. It's off, Devin,

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I am till ten, I'm going. And I think that

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that because my like I mentioned, I have

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>O C D. So when my head hits the pillow,

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm so exhausted from thinking about things all day that

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just done. Good good, down to do it good.

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0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:25.799
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0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>do you think is the good thing about being a

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>female in sports? I think we're having a bit of

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.479
<v Speaker 1>a moment right now. I think that all of these

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>doors and windows are starting to open, and I think

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:46.959
<v Speaker 1>that women have been so hungry to have a seat

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>at the table for so long, they're just take grabbing

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it and taking it. Like. It makes me think of

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody like Cynthia Freeland who works at NFL Network, who

0:40:56.239 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>is like, just has such a beautiful mind and she

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>thinks in numbers and stats and a complete opposite way

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>of the way that I think. And she's gotten this

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to be such a voice on the network and

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 1>she has taken it, even though it means her working

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>seven days a week, seven even in the off season.

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>She has just absolutely taken it. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>as times are changing, we're getting these opportunities, and I

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.879
<v Speaker 1>think that that's really really cool. I think it's so

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>awesome that, um, we're getting these seats at the table.

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 1>So I think that that's the most exciting thing is

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that things are changing. Do you think it You believe

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 1>that being a female you have to work harder and

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and and know your stuff versus a guy. So let

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 1>me let me clarify. I think it's different for me

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't I've only been covering football for four years.

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Like like I said, I didn't even know about soccer,

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>so I have constantly been put into these roles where

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like just treading water. So I think that what

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I was on that show, that was the very first

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>time in my life that I had ever talked about football,

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and I had to talk about it in a way

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that made it I feel like I belonged, that I

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>have this seat, that I was supposed to be hosting

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.359
<v Speaker 1>that show. So I think that the reason why I

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:23.439
<v Speaker 1>said that was because I felt as one of three

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>other you know, I was only There's Jenny Taft hosting Undisputed,

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>There's Joy Taylor that was the co host of The Herd,

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and then there was me, And so those two women

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>are really smart and know what they're talking about. I

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>felt like I needed in order to meet for me

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to deserve that show and that podium, I had to

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I was talking about because there was only

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 1>so few of us. And I feel like, you know,

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>because of the Cynthia freelance. That's going to open up

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 1>the door for so many other Cynthia freelance. And if

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I do well at this table, that's going to open

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>up the door for all of these other women to

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>come in that maybe don't know a ton about sports,

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:00.439
<v Speaker 1>but are unique and creative and funny and and really

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>smart and all of those things. So I think that

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 1>for me, I just I couldn't be wrong about anything.

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get anything wrong because I didn't want. Like

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, these opportunities are being open to us. We

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>have to make the most of it because there's a

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>whole lineup of ladies behind me who are wanting to

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.359
<v Speaker 1>seat next. And if I don't do a great job,

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 1>well that maybe get a guy in here that we

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:27.399
<v Speaker 1>know that can do this job, you know what I mean.

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>It's that kind of feeling. But they think they know.

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been doing it for five years and

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I've worked with people that I've realized that have come

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and go that they don't know football. Yeah, my guys

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>who have played who don't. I've played with wide receivers

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.960
<v Speaker 1>who I've discovered in the middle of the game there

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in their fourth year. They can't recoverage this. I do

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>think that you realize as soon as you get into

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 1>TV there's a lot of bullshitting that happens, and I

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:02.720
<v Speaker 1>think did that was something that kind of made me realize, like, Okay,

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I know how to bullshit, but you can't bullshit other

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>people became bullshit and have the margin for error to

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>bullshit and still be able to But that's another thing.

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like social media then comes into play as well,

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 1>because there are so many like trolls online that I

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>want to say like that's oh my god, she doesn't

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.280
<v Speaker 1>know what she's talking about. And that was my worst

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 1>nightmare I was. I was just told I'm a slot receiver. Yeah,

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>they probably do the exact same thing to you. Steve

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know I'm he's a slot. He doesn't know anything. Really,

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know I was a slot receiver. That's news

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to me. I've been wanting to be in a slot

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>for Wow, you were a female or you were an

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>individual who who got a job to some degree that

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.839
<v Speaker 1>you didn't know as much as you knew and not

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>no slide or anything bad. You were unqualified, right, you

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't You didn't have the qualifications as far as the

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of the game that you knew what you didn't

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 1>have the qualifications of the knowledge of the games. But

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I am. They knew that I would work harder and

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:08.919
<v Speaker 1>that was up for that job, and that is why

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I got the job because of who you are like

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>who now? Who you are like and Rachel Blnetta, but

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 1>who you are and the person the worker, who what

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you exude, how you doing, how you come into office,

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>how you lead office, what you're doing outside of office.

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>You showed that female or guy, you're either gonna make

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>it or you're not. Either gonna adapt and figure out

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the sport. Like I knew football, I didn't know TV

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>football mm hmm. And that's been adjustment for me. I

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>think that I'm pretty knowledgeable about football now. I know

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 1>how to talk about it, I know how to talk

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>about it in an interesting way. But it's because I

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>had three years of a show to work on it.

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>That was one of three roles filled by a female

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>at FS one. All the other roles are filled by men,

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 1>which means there are more roles to fill, which means

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>more men are getting those opportunities. I'm only where I

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>am now because I had those three years on that show.

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:14.760
<v Speaker 1>If there were more shows, if there were more roles

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to fill, I could have started doing that six years ago,

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>seven years ago, eight years ago. So I feel like

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 1>now that there are more, we're inevitably going to see

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 1>more women because there are just opening up these jobs

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to women, Whereas like before, even I mean, look at

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.319
<v Speaker 1>any broadcasts on any network, it's the majority of it

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>is guys because guys have always gotten this opportunity. They've

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 1>gotten the opportunity to learn, Like you know, the rich

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Eyses of the world have been doing this job for

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty plus years. Women haven't always gotten that opportunity. If

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>we did, then there would be a lot more female

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>rich Eyss around. So I feel like, you know, fast

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>forward ten years from now, there are going to be

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>way more women because there are just inherently more positions.

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>But right now we have to still fight for those.

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So I do think think it is you know, it's

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>just been more difficult for women to crack into this.

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>All the different networks only have so many shows, right,

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:11.359
<v Speaker 1>bottom line, and how they feel them is it really

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:14.040
<v Speaker 1>depends on the lens of the people that are hiring

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and what they see and how they want to see it.

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>But It also makes sense to hire X players because

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys have been in the next I haven't stuff

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 1>foot on a football team are on the field. I

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know what that's like. You you share a completely different,

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, side of the game, which is fascinated, which

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 1>makes excellent TV if you know how to do it.

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>So it makes sense. Where do you see things trending

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>in the next five years, ten years? Of course it

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 1>changes so rapidly, but now repositioning that, where do you

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 1>see yourself in the next ten years? Gosh, I I

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Hopefully happy, stupid, but as you know, settled

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and and just happy. Like I think that I at

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 1>some point the snapping needs to like cool off a

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.439
<v Speaker 1>bit so that I can have a life. But right now,

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like I love being creative. I love being working for

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a company that lets me be who I am and

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:15.879
<v Speaker 1>be creative. And like, you know, ten years ago, if

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you were to ask me that question, I I wouldn't

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 1>necessarily say where I am now, and ten years before

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>that I would have never said sports ever, and that

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>sports has given me every single thing in my life.

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.240
<v Speaker 1>So I think that I just want to be happy

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 1>with what I'm doing, and I want to keep on.

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to have ownership over things. I really want

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to start my own production company. Um. I want to

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 1>keep on, you know, lifting up other women that don't

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.839
<v Speaker 1>necessarily see themselves in sports like I didn't once upon

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a time, and now I love it and just keep on,

0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, opening the door for people to make stuff

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and be themselves. What what? What do you love about

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:03.439
<v Speaker 1>the grind of television? Oh? Man? I used to hate

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 1>live TV so much. It used to scare me because

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I was always fraid of saying the wrong thing. And

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>now I just love it. Anything can happen. It's just

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>such an adrenaline. The energy is so fun um and

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I still I just I still love writing things. I

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:22.359
<v Speaker 1>love writing sketches. I love seeing the my favorite thing

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to hear. And somebody like like Mooch always asked me this.

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Whenever I see Mooch, she goes, what is wrong with you?

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, do you want the list? I'll give

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you a lift. But that tells me that I'm doing

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 1>something so different that people have not seen that, you know.

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Ian Rappaport's like, you're a weird huh. I love that.

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Nothing makes me happier. That is like such a check

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 1>of a box for me, because that just tells me

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I am doing something that people aren't used to seeing,

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and I need to lean into that. So I'm just

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep on trying to do new things and asking

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>or say you're weird as you not looked in the mirror.

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>How much do you get it? In a loving way?

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I just I just love you've talked about improv. How

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>much you loved improv? Do you get to improv? Why

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 1>are you doing some of the live stuff? Do you

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.760
<v Speaker 1>have restrictions on you? What do you enjoy? I'm something

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>like just went viral at the draft and it was

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>me handing this guy a five dollar bail. I literally

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 1>asked somebody for a five on the way to our

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:29.360
<v Speaker 1>spot to shoot that, like I'm always When I was

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 1>doing the before the pandemic, I was in an improv

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>class for eight hours a week. I was going on

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Tuesdays and Thursdays for four hours each night. Thursday at football,

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I was having to put my you know, my phone,

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a football would be on my phone and I'd

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:44.879
<v Speaker 1>be an improv class like watching the scene and also

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:48.839
<v Speaker 1>watching football. Like I was just constantly trying to work

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>on that part of my brain. And that's what I

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>tell everybody that's like starting off in this business. I'm like,

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if you think you're funny, or if

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you're an actor or what being able to I mean, Steve,

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:04.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, just like anything can happen, breaking news can happen,

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you need to be thinking on your feet at all times. Um,

0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 1>even if it's a tape hit and you have a

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>script in your head, somebody could fly by behind you,

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and if you try to ignore it, that's terrible. If

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you work with it, that makes you know viral moments.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>And so improv is such a huge part of my

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:23.840
<v Speaker 1>life and it's kind of sucked because of the pandemic.

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been able to do a lot of it.

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 1>But also I have stage fright, so just putting me

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 1>up on a stage in front of people acting like

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>a complete idiot, UM really puts me out of my

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 1>comfort zone. And it makes things like doing live television

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>at the Draft not scary at all. Backstage, Joe does improv?

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Did you know it? I would love that for you.

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Rachel. Do you can always get into it?

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you think? Uh? Sports broadcasters have superpowers? Um,

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>some of them for sure. What's your superpower there? What's mine?

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:19.800
<v Speaker 1>My superpower? Right here? Now, right here, We're right here.

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<v Speaker 1>No um. I think making uh one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm mostly prideful about. I started a podcast a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago called Hall of Shame, and we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the biggest scandals that ever happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>sports world, and we talked about it in a wet

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<v Speaker 1>We did not have the sports audience. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>mostly female audience that didn't give a shit about sports,

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and we talked about sports in a way just the

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.359
<v Speaker 1>way you said it. It was just like we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about sports. Nobody really cared you and the kids

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<v Speaker 1>and keep cooking. No, no, Yeah, we spoke about it

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that people got it. People. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people don't like sports because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand it and it makes them feel um left out,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of bullying stuff kind of comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when I first think about it, and the

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<v Speaker 1>way that we were able to talk about sports is

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<v Speaker 1>such a delicious thing to have been your life, Like,

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 1>there is nothing better than I'm a huge Raptors fan.

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I got to watch them win a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I was crying. That's one of my greatest memories I've

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 1>ever had in my life. There's nothing better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like, it's it's humans being amazing and to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have a podcast it was about sports

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<v Speaker 1>that was not for sports fans, and I have all

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<v Speaker 1>of these women and all of these people that did

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<v Speaker 1>not care about sports being like, I'm gonna watch football

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<v Speaker 1>now because you have made it really fun. I think

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't start out being a football fan, and

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't necessarily start up being a sports fan, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm able to talk to people in a way

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<v Speaker 1>because I get most sides. I get why you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like sports, but also I've experienced it now and I

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 1>want you to experience it. So I think that that,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that would be my superpower, is like pulling

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<v Speaker 1>people in to love this thing that maybe they don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know exists, and there's just so much energy and

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty magical thing to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you if you have the opportunity, What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think your papa say about you right now? Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do this to me? You know why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I see I see how cool you are. And

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I think, um, I think you snapped for a reason

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and to be able to look into your dad's eyes

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and last kind of moments before sending his little girl

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<v Speaker 1>in the world without him. It's always that question we

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<v Speaker 1>always ask. I asked myself, well, my grandpa think of me, right?

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 1>And when I played in my years, my grandpa always

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<v Speaker 1>told me I was young boy, you want to play

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<v Speaker 1>this game. You know I go by Steve, but you know, Steve,

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to play this game, you gotta play it

0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 1>bigger and better than everybody else. M hmm, okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that he would be really proud of me for

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<v Speaker 1>keeping my word, for for literally manifesting my entire life

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 1>thirteen years ago or however long ago was. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud of myself for for doing all of those things. Recently,

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I made a really big life decision, and my brother

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<v Speaker 1>wrote me a song to help me make this decision

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:33.319
<v Speaker 1>because it was life life changing, and I decided not

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<v Speaker 1>to do this thing. And I didn't do this thing

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<v Speaker 1>because it didn't sit with my vision for my life

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and what I had promised my dad in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't sit with any of those things. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity, but I had passed, um, and part

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<v Speaker 1>of the lyrics in it was like it was something

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>along the lines of like he's standing with all of

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 1>us and happy too. You guys didn't really just gonna

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 1>cry on this podcast, not once but twice. Um. But

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 1>he was talking about how he's my dad's with all

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<v Speaker 1>three of my brothers and really proud, and he would

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 1>be and he should be. Thank you kicking ass and

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:29.800
<v Speaker 1>taking names. Thank you, guys, you are a unique person.

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 1>You are well worth it, you are competent, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of all, your lovable. I'm Steve Smith Singer, I'm Gerard

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<v Speaker 1>Little John and this is cut to It. Cut to

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<v Speaker 1>It with Steve Smith Singior That Is Me is a

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<v Speaker 1>production of Cut to It LLC, Balto Creative Media, The

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<v Speaker 1>Black Effect and I Heart Radio. For more podcast from

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<v Speaker 1>team Wesley Robinson and John Show from Balto Creative Media.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to It is produced by Brian Baltaschevic and Meredith Carter,

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<v Speaker 1>with production assistance by Alex Lebrec, Production coordinator Taylor Robinson.

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<v Speaker 1>Theme music by Alex Johnson, lyrics and vocals by Anthony Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't heard about it, then, we're about to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It's all