WEBVTT - Adult Education: Back to the Beach

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi honey, Hello, can you please its almost Christmas issue?

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of as in your way into persuade and meet

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<v Speaker 3>to put decorations up for the November.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, can we agree on a date?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we can? We can we put it in the

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<v Speaker 2>calendar and agree on a date because last year we

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<v Speaker 2>put it up before Roman was born. Well, we put

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<v Speaker 2>up about sixty percent of.

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<v Speaker 3>It because Roman was going to be born and we

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<v Speaker 3>have no time afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I still like them being up before Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 2>and because we're leaving too for Thanksgiving, So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like what if we did, like, let's just do some

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<v Speaker 2>planning right now, let's just go on the calendar to

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<v Speaker 2>a little planning. Can we do the second week in November?

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<v Speaker 2>That sound good too?

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<v Speaker 4>You want that way?

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels like a mutual thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a week, it's a week of putting them up.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would like I would not like to solid

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<v Speaker 2>see if we could like condense it to like a

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<v Speaker 2>two day process, that would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a twenty year old day for two days.

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<v Speaker 2>I do all of it. Oh wow, I do you

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<v Speaker 2>help me bring the boxes down, But I really did

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<v Speaker 2>you put any I mean minus minus the garland on

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<v Speaker 2>the on the railing, babe, which part of it, besides

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<v Speaker 2>the garland and the tree.

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<v Speaker 3>Besides the garland which stretches the whole span of the house,

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<v Speaker 3>and the garland on the outside staircase, and the tree

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<v Speaker 3>which is like a redwood tree in the north of California.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, thank you so much, one hundred feet tall.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. True.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, it's going to be great. Anyways, how's your

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<v Speaker 2>week been.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been good because my little big man has been here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>My heart feels cool when they hear.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>As you know, he leaves tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had a little training session this morning, not

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<v Speaker 3>taking them for lunch. It's afternoon before he goes to

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<v Speaker 3>the airport. It's been good. It's been busy since he's

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<v Speaker 3>been here. Yeah, I felt like since he's arrived, it's

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<v Speaker 3>been something every day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've got no food in the fridge because he

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<v Speaker 3>never stops eating. I just made I just made this

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<v Speaker 3>four eggs each with some beef in the eggs in

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<v Speaker 3>half an ab caddle right, and he said it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>enough and made another four eggs and five slices of

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<v Speaker 3>tucky bacon.

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<v Speaker 4>That now I feel fool.

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<v Speaker 2>As my mom used to say that my brother was

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<v Speaker 2>going to eat us out of house and home. So

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's just the thing when you get older,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my mom dad used to say that I had

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<v Speaker 3>the worms, worm worms for the Americans, worms worms, worms, whatms?

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<v Speaker 4>Bottoms? Okay, okay, I had worms.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't is what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Does having warms mean? Basically means you've got a parasite

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<v Speaker 3>that eats all the food that comes into your stomach,

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<v Speaker 3>so you constantly feel hungry.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of parasites, I'm going to do a parasite clans

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<v Speaker 2>which is going to be very interesting, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do it over the full moon. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>weird part about it. But apparently you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>it like the day to have it synced up to

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<v Speaker 2>a full moon, which to me is just again a

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<v Speaker 2>little weird, but they say that's how you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and that's when the parasites come out.

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<v Speaker 4>So sort of wear wolves. They want to come out

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<v Speaker 4>on a film moon.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's it's weird. I'm going to look into

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit more. But there is a full

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<v Speaker 2>moon coming up very soon in November.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know what happens with parasite cleans, don't you?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't. It's they're all very different. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's cleanse is different. But they say you get so

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<v Speaker 2>much more energy after a parasite cleanse, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out this fatigue. So because it's just a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you gonna do it? We can run about, run about.

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<v Speaker 3>And parasites up the reels and gross pose or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I I would pass out if something. If a parasite

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<v Speaker 2>came out of my ear, may come out your hoss.

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<v Speaker 4>They they come out your hoss. Parasites.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have watched bay Watch.

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<v Speaker 4>Teams of Subject? Yes? Absolutely, every of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you really?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so then you you know, then you've seen our

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<v Speaker 2>next guest. Do you watch them?

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<v Speaker 4>A legend?

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<v Speaker 3>He's one of the big watched legends, isn't he? Palm

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<v Speaker 3>Lands and y Love Interest?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you watch like every season?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, probably not every season because I was eight when

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<v Speaker 4>it started.

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<v Speaker 2>That was gonna say, you're quite young to be watching

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<v Speaker 2>they watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but as soon as my hormones kicked in and

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<v Speaker 3>at eight, No, a little bit, a little bit later

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<v Speaker 3>than eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Like your parents, let you watched that at ate?

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<v Speaker 3>I've probably seen it because my dad was probably watching

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<v Speaker 3>it in the background, so I was exposed to it eight,

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<v Speaker 3>but probably started watching it like eleven twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I feel like that's so young?

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<v Speaker 4>Was it so young?

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<v Speaker 2>They watch They're like they like covered? I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even watch it because it was two.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe twelve, maybe twelve. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to ask my woman and dad. Hum, interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>you obviously watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch it at all because I was too

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<v Speaker 2>young from when it started.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is how big it was.

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<v Speaker 3>So listened to this, right, so every week it got

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<v Speaker 3>at least one point one billion viewers?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you google that?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a plethora of data and statistic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you and your shark data is wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's go near that again. Right, So one point

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<v Speaker 3>one billion viewers every week.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine the week. That's just five point six five point

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<v Speaker 4>six billion people on.

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<v Speaker 3>The planet at that point. That came straight from David's

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge when I was in strolling freeze Instagram. So listening

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<v Speaker 3>to this to put that into context, right, you're listening,

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<v Speaker 3>you're listening.

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<v Speaker 4>So to put that.

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<v Speaker 3>Into context, the highest view of the weekly show modern

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<v Speaker 3>show is what weekly? Not a show can be a

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<v Speaker 3>tea like a sport as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that one more time, sorry, I is it the

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<v Speaker 2>highest weekly?

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<v Speaker 4>What? So bay Watch got one point one weekly? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's prime exactly right, Now, what's the most watched

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<v Speaker 4>show on.

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<v Speaker 2>TV right now?

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<v Speaker 4>In today's it can be a sport as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I feel like football gets what ten

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<v Speaker 2>ten million viewers?

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<v Speaker 3>So Sunday Night Football, Yeah, ten million, eighteen million plus

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen and that's the highest. So compare that to one

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<v Speaker 3>point one billion. So I then went back, yeah to

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety eight, Yeah, when Baywatch was its prime. And

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<v Speaker 3>even then, right even then on ESPN and NBC, Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>Night Football was only getting like ten eleven million viewers.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Friends was around the same time when it averaged

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five million viewers each week exactly. I'm just having

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time when you say billion because I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in this stage where we were lucky to get

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<v Speaker 2>when we were on One Tree Hill like five million views,

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<v Speaker 2>or when I was on Dancing with the stars, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ten plus million views. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're luck like you're now in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 2>or just you're so lucky to get a certain amount

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<v Speaker 2>of views, like if you get over a million, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like considered a win.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the social media in nineteen ninety five to ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the fact too. I was reading So

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<v Speaker 2>We've got David Chokichi coming on, who was a cast

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<v Speaker 2>member of Baywatch, and so he This is interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to a few of his podcasts that

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing with other people, and he was saying

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<v Speaker 2>how he tore his or he hurt his achilles, the

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<v Speaker 2>achilles and that's like a year rehab process and how

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<v Speaker 2>he fell into depression. And it's so interesting because you

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<v Speaker 2>and I have been both dealing with So I have

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<v Speaker 2>an elf El five dispulge hitting the nerve in my

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<v Speaker 2>back from Roman when I put him down, and that

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<v Speaker 2>happened in August, and it's I felt that like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like that depression of that constant and it still hurts,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm like it's been months now and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>that constant ache. And I don't know how people deal

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<v Speaker 2>with chronic pain because it's just there all the time

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just so frustrating. And so we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk a lot about mental health this episode, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about how he is going back to the roots of

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<v Speaker 2>things and getting away from the medicine and more, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>truly rooting yourself in the ground and how that's helping,

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<v Speaker 2>and which I believe in a lot of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime I have anxiety, it's like shoes off, socks off,

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<v Speaker 2>feet in like the grass, the earth, and how that

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<v Speaker 2>roots you. And but I think it's great to have,

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<v Speaker 2>especially especially having a man talk about I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>just love and you know me, I love in the

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<v Speaker 2>conversations about mental health. But when a man opens up

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<v Speaker 2>about depression, and because there's I'm going to go off

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<v Speaker 2>on the stats here, but middle aged men are the

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<v Speaker 2>most likely to commit suicide. Really yeah, My therapist was

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<v Speaker 2>telling me that in this well this at least in

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<v Speaker 2>this area, that was the middle aged men. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's just I know a lot of women listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the show, but that we also also deal with depression.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully, you know, we can find ways to help

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<v Speaker 2>and get some insight from him. So we'll take a

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<v Speaker 2>break and then get him on.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you guys, how are you doing good? How are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing great? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to have you on. I I just

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<v Speaker 2>found this out that my husband was a big bay

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<v Speaker 2>Watch watcher, which I just had no idea about. And

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<v Speaker 2>and and I'm also like he was watching it quite young, so.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably like, what like twelve before I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably so, Yeah, I was born in Ethy and

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<v Speaker 3>we're just trying to figure out when my mom and

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<v Speaker 3>dad actually let me watch it at what age?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you remember my character Cody Madison?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember all the characters because in Scotland everyone

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<v Speaker 3>watched it because it was the only chance to see Sunshine.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Yeah Sunshine and big boobs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny. We did like a big press tour

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<v Speaker 1>when I first got on the show, and we went

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<v Speaker 1>to England and then we went to Scotland, and Scotland

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<v Speaker 1>they just went crazy. It was like we were the

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<v Speaker 1>Beatles and they had a proper and we went to

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<v Speaker 1>like a proper like haugas Vest, like we were all

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<v Speaker 1>dressed up and killed and we had to taste the

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<v Speaker 1>hog gus and say yes, or no, and it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you like it or not?

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't bad. I'm not a fraid of anything really,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was all right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny. Well I'm curious because well he was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're as we're you know, researching more and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, learning about your story and and just Baywatch

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<v Speaker 2>and Whold too, because obviously that docu series is out

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<v Speaker 2>on Hulu. And yeah, I I it's not that I

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<v Speaker 2>doubted you when you told me how many viewers it got,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did. I'm like, there's that's not possible that

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<v Speaker 2>they got one point five billion, Like that's one point

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<v Speaker 2>one billion, Like that's just not like, especially especially in

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<v Speaker 2>today's age, and even back then. I'm like, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd maybe think like twenty five million, but like billion,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just I'm like and then I googled and

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<v Speaker 2>I had to google it the Google check him, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait, what.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one point one billion a week. That's wild

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<v Speaker 1>and there was only five point eight billion people on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet. So it was like, it's the numbers are insane.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think it? Like? Why why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think it was?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What made the show work the way that it did

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<v Speaker 2>that hugely and successfully.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just like a lot of countries or

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<v Speaker 1>like European countries or landlocked they would use it as

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<v Speaker 1>like an hour of escapism, like they could turn it

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<v Speaker 1>on and actually, like forget that it was twenty degrees

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<v Speaker 1>outside and it was dark. It's whatever Eastern Communism or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is happening at the time, and it just like it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. They also translated it into I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how many different languages they dubbed it, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>like I speak, like twenty languages, which is hilarioious, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it, it just permeated the globe. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>back then there was less content, and there was less

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't a three hundred channels to choose from.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mess most about the show? Well, do

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<v Speaker 4>you messay anything?

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<v Speaker 1>I miss? You know, when I look back on that show,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really physical show. I grew up on

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean on the East coast and my mom was

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<v Speaker 1>a sailor and she started us sailing at like age five,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really I took sailing kind of to the

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<v Speaker 1>next level. I ended up becoming the head sailing instructor.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the Junior Olympics and windsurf racing like

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<v Speaker 1>triangle racing, and I raced like these other boats, these

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<v Speaker 1>two man boats were with a spinnaker called four twenties

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<v Speaker 1>and went to like the Nationals and those, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I had all this ocean experience and it translated when

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<v Speaker 1>I got on the show, like I already knew how

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<v Speaker 1>to drive boats. I know how to like handle them

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<v Speaker 1>really well. I knew had to drive wave runners. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew was a certified scuba diver. I was already certified CPR.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had all these skills. And so when they

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<v Speaker 1>discovered that, and I was on a swim team and

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<v Speaker 1>my character was an Olympic hopeful, and so when they

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<v Speaker 1>saw like I had all those skills and I could

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<v Speaker 1>actually swim like a technical swimmer like in the pool

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<v Speaker 1>and actually look like an Olympic guy, it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a like a no brainer in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the casting. And then as they saw my skills in

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<v Speaker 1>the water, they just kept writing these more elaborate action

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<v Speaker 1>scenes and I got to do like some of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. They would let me drive these scarebs, which

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<v Speaker 1>are the speedboats, the big yellow ones you know that

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<v Speaker 1>are super fast but they don't handle well. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we would come in really hot to like the Venice

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<v Speaker 1>peer and then want us to kind of like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>almost like spray the pier, come around, stall it and

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<v Speaker 1>someone dive off, and you know, there's only it was

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<v Speaker 1>only me and like the O this so other guy

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Newman, who they would who they would let drive

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<v Speaker 1>the scarebs and even the wave runners. Man, they set

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<v Speaker 1>up the cameras in the rocks, and you have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of scenes where you know, you pull up, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to spin the wave runner and kind of stall

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<v Speaker 1>it close to the camera and then deliver your lines

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<v Speaker 1>off camera. But if you don't know how to like

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<v Speaker 1>spin it install it, you're like crashing into their camera

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<v Speaker 1>crew or you're going to the rocks, and like the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the cast can like do it was just

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<v Speaker 1>comedy and unfortunately that jall Man I just talked about

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Newman just recently passed away, which was really hard.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, sorry to hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you were going back to the success of

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<v Speaker 2>the success of the show, I read somewhere that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys were only making thirty five dollars an episode, which

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<v Speaker 2>was that then fought because I know, Friends was obviously

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<v Speaker 2>obviously very successful, and then they were making a million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars an episode, So were there conversations where you guys

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<v Speaker 2>were fighting for more money? And then was it that

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<v Speaker 2>across the board? Because I make up that. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way that David or Pamela, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys were Was that just for the recurring people or

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<v Speaker 2>was that across the board?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean no, David and Pamela were getting paid. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much you're getting paid. They definitely were

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid. Yeah, everybody else was getting just nothing like we.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they I forget my initial I think I

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<v Speaker 1>started at like thirty five hundred. But for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>was so excited to be like on that show and

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<v Speaker 1>have my first TV series, you know. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>got on the show, I thought, oh my god, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on. But then they're like, yeah, we're only guaranteeing

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<v Speaker 1>you six out of twenty two. You got to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of prove yourself and if you do, we'll write more

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And luckily, like I saw quickly like how

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<v Speaker 1>to succeed, and I worked my ass off. I worked

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<v Speaker 1>with an acting coach. Every night. I would work on

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<v Speaker 1>the set, I'd go to the gym and I work

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<v Speaker 1>with a coach, and I would just do it every day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was super fit and like probably one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most fit males. And I'm not bragging, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying I saw how the audience respond and when

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<v Speaker 1>the audience responds to your character, they right into the producers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the producers go, oh wow, they're they're paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to paying attention to Chokichi, and really quickly like my

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<v Speaker 1>character kind of like popped, and so much so that

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<v Speaker 1>they gave me the option. They were like, who do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be your girlfriend on the show? You

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<v Speaker 1>could have choose between Yazmin or Pamela, and I was like, really,

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<v Speaker 1>you serious? And I love Jazmine and they're both hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>and both gorgeous, but pam was like, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a little more like well.

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<v Speaker 2>She was this the star, so mean, yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>hard not to turn down being the love interest of

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<v Speaker 2>the main character. I know it was a ensemble, but still,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was. When I think of Baywatch, I

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<v Speaker 2>think of Pamela Anderson totally, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Her and I were super similar, especially in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>before she had like kind of marriage things happening. Our

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<v Speaker 1>spirits were like very alive, we were very self deprecating.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of fun. Our scenes were super fun,

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<v Speaker 1>and the chemistry just like like popped off the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that hard for you kind of you know because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously again reading things how Tommy was upset about the

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<v Speaker 2>relationships that I mean because though you guys were on screen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, relationship off screen. You know. I read quotes

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<v Speaker 2>that you were saying, she was like a sister and

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<v Speaker 2>we had such a a friendly, like truly just a

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<v Speaker 2>friendly relationship. I feel like I make up that that's

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<v Speaker 2>super hard to be on set and then having this

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend and then causing any of just not good energy

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.480
<v Speaker 2>in that because that doesn't that doesn't fuel a good

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<v Speaker 2>day for anyone working.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and for her, I could it started to definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see the stress on her, the anxiety and

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<v Speaker 1>her He would call that he would call one of

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<v Speaker 1>the crew members and try and find the locations would

0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.200
<v Speaker 1>be at, and the crew members would have to lie

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<v Speaker 1>to him and say, oh, no, we're shooting over Marine Delray.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't it be shooting up in Zooma or something? And

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<v Speaker 1>he would try and find us all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>and he was just you know, he made her life miserable,

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<v Speaker 1>like and it should have been in the beginning. The

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<v Speaker 1>probably the first season with her was super fun. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no stress. And then when that piece came out,

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<v Speaker 1>that came out pretty early when he trashed her trailer,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think he It just seemed to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of slowly build and she became kind of you know, less,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know to say it, like she just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying it as much, you know, she was just I

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<v Speaker 1>think she was constantly like, yeah, at the end, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>running in the set right now and like start punching

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<v Speaker 1>out people or what, you know. So just like a

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<v Speaker 1>shitty situation like he should have, you know. And I said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're a married couple whatever. I was never looking

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<v Speaker 1>across the line, but you're like, dude, you're married to

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<v Speaker 1>an actress. And and as Baywatch is about as simple

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>as it gets, the most of you doing is making out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing else. It's not like today's CV where they're

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<v Speaker 1>really like going for it. It was so PG and

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<v Speaker 1>he just like couldn't deal with it and took it

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong way. And I think it wasn't. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was also to his you know, not to his credit,

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<v Speaker 1>but to hit you know, not throw him under the

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<v Speaker 1>bus totally. But there was so much attention on her

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and the paparazzi was so all over her,

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<v Speaker 1>and like it became like it was just like a

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<v Speaker 1>very stressful time. And it was. The weird thing is

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.560
<v Speaker 1>after the whole trailer incident, and we ended up going

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 1>out to dinner and it was like Tommy pam yas

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<v Speaker 1>me and myself and just like two others, a buddy

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<v Speaker 1>of mine, and we had like and Tommy was completely

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<v Speaker 1>cool with me and like my buddy. You end up

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.879
<v Speaker 1>like partying and doing shots at the bar. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we ended up going to the viper room after and

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 1>it was the same night that so we leave the

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<v Speaker 1>viper room, come out of the viper room, the doors

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<v Speaker 1>pop open, and the paparazzi like it's just like explosion

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.560
<v Speaker 1>up white, like you can't even see because they're trying

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>to pop so many photographs of them. I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>ditch out right and they go try and go straight

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.679
<v Speaker 1>and that's when he pushed that paparazzi dude, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think broke his hip that same night.

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<v Speaker 5>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know my husband, you know, he has never well,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's dated other actresses. But I mean, you know,

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm an actress, and so it's it's not it's it's

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 2>difficult for you when I'm having to do makeout scenes,

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's I understand it being foreign and it's it's

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:32.399
<v Speaker 2>not something that you're used to. But from our sides,

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 2>it's like, this is the least unsexy thing, Like those

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 2>scenes kissing and everything are the least romantic. That's not

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 2>it's I always say, it's the things that are offset,

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:43.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, the closed door in the trailers, like that's

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 2>where it gets dodgy on set. It's how you handle

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 2>those situations. But when it comes to the on screen

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 2>kissing and anything like, it is the least romantic thing ever.

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.920
<v Speaker 2>There's no feelings, there's no you know, nothing, it's always

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 2>just what happens when you yell when when it's cut,

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, then then that's where the lines can get

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 2>blurred if you're not knowing the boundaries of certain things

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.160
<v Speaker 2>and you know you're being young and dumb. But yeah,

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 2>so I get how it could be hard for dudes.

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 2>But you know, he shouldn't have gone in like trash

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 2>trailers or made it awkward because then it just puts

0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 2>everyone in a bad situation. Then you just don't even

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>want to be there because you're like, well, I'm just

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:21.200
<v Speaker 2>going to get for this when I get home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And she was like she was asking them to

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 1>stop writing scenes, like stop writing makeout scenes with Chokichi,

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, we can't. The audience loves this, they'd

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 1>love your they'd love c J and Cody, and that's

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the show. Like we can't like change Baywatch because Tommy

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>can't like deal with this, Like sorry, you know what

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I mean, I remember so many times I

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>would just go sit in her trailer and she'd be

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>like crying and freaking out, and I wouldn't I wouldn't

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.159
<v Speaker 1>be like hands on, I'd just be sitting there as

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a friend. I wouldn't be saying I just like just

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 1>being there, just have it like and just like to

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>support her because I can tell like it was it

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>was really tough. And I think a lot of other

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>guys would have taken advantage in that situation because there's

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I easily could have gone another direction and been a scumbag,

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, she was super vulnerable. But I was like,

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.959
<v Speaker 1>that's what kind of guy I am. And I just

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a friend to her and somebody, you know,

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>someone's gone through a rough time and you know, try

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and help her out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So touching on rough times. You had a rough injury recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, oh god, Well we were just kind of

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 2>talking about that because we have like I just pulled,

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 2>we both pulled our back out. We both have bulges

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 2>in our back. He just he what would you do

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 2>to your ankle?

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 4>I roughediled my parents on the outside of my ankle.

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 2>And so we've got like these injuries going on, and

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 2>just the mine's been for a couple of months, him

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the same. And it's like there's this depression that sets

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>because there's the constant pain every single day and it's

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 2>like you're spending money going to this chiropractor and the

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 2>pet and this, that and the other. And I just

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm so sick of a feeling this but

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 2>then making like letting it affect me. So I've just

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 2>recently I'm like screwed. I'm going to start running again

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 2>because I need to run because it's good for my

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 2>mental state, and yeah, I was so excited to talk

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 2>to you because you fell into depression because of your injury.

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'll try to go through

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 1>it pretty quickly. But yeah. I was shooting a movie

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>back east and it was I was playing a cop.

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>The whole movie was talking except three dighths of the page.

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I chased the dude down a hallway and it was

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 1>like one in the morning. It was super humid, and

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I was in like these combat boots and it was

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.439
<v Speaker 1>just stupid. I was like, it's all I can do

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>is sprint, but I was just laying. I was laying

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>on my back in my waiting room, just like tell

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>me when you guys are ready. I wasn't stretching because

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I just gonna run down the hallway. Yeah,

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>I won't do that again. We did it once. I

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>just have to kind of walk up at a high speed.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I said, I see the dude. I hit a mark

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>and then I yell at him to stop, and I

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>spread and the camera kind of just coming at me

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 1>and I run past camera. And we did it once

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and everybody was like, God, perfectly got it. Let's go home.

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's tired, and then someone and it wasn't the director

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>and it was the DP. But someone goes, I don't know,

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>we're set up for the store home town.

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 6>The producer someone, Yeah, so we do it one more

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 6>time and I go to Sprint and it was just instant,

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 6>and I knew it because I had done my left one.

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>During Baywatch and like my heatus a Baywatch playing paddle tennis,

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>so I knew exactly the feeling. And it's I've broken

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>my femur in eighth grade. That was pretty horrific feeling.

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>But every time i've I've had a major injury, I'm like,

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that did not happen. And I jumped up and I

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>put all my weight on it, and I'm like, oh

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>my god, no way, and They're like, maybe it's spring.

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's spraining. I knew anyway. Cut to I'm stuck

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>on the East Coast and with Achilles, and I'm sure

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. I'm like, with there's like a fourteen day

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.719
<v Speaker 1>window that you have to have repair otherwise there's a

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of complications. So I only owed one more day

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 1>on the movie. My flight was the following day. I'm like,

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll just finish the movie and a cat in a

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>boot because on't you tear it. There's no pain after

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.479
<v Speaker 1>like one night. But I had to get on. I

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>had to find a surgeon, get on his schedule, get

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a physical, get an MRI, get all that lined up

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>within fourteen days, you know. So I went with this guy.

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>He's a shoulder specialist who does orthopedics. I tried to

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>find the guy who did my left achilles because my

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>left achilles was really bad rupture, and he was a

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>trauma surgeon in Saint John's and Santa Monica, but he

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>was older at the time and I couldn't find them,

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I just got to go with

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>this guy. A year later. It took a year to

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>figure this out, and I knew I would grind. I

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>worked on the PT you know, six weeks, no wait

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>at all, full, your isolated, you're on the couch. That

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>was fine for this whole section. But after a year,

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, my foot was loose, it was not like connected,

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't tight. And my family thought I was insane.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>They thought I was obsessing about it. All my buddies,

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>well stop saying. I went and saw three specialists and

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>two of them were like one was like, dude, I

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go back in there. That's a really

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>tough surgery. To go in back into an achilles or

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>revisions or revisionist surgery is very difficult. I would try

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>and see if you can pete it. The second guy goes, yeah,

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>let me see you try walk on your toes. I

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't walk on my on my red toes at all.

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, David, listen, I can tell you're it. Dude.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>If you do this, you know you're starting over at

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>day one, and I can tell you know you're into

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>exercise and outdoors. He goes, you're gonna lose your fing mind.

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee it. The third guy met in Pasadena, goes,

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>who's a young guy, sir for our family. Guy goes, yeah, David,

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>your your attendon is too long. Unfortunately surgical error. There's

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>nothing humanly possible to fix it without me going in

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and cutting out a chunk, reattached it and starting over,

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and that was it. And he I was like, let's

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>do it. I have to do it, and he took

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>out like an inch in an eighth. It was that

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>far off, like that's how loose it was. But during

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the second period. I just found myself going dark, and

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it was like, I mean my entire life. I've grown

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>up playing sports. I played football all the way through

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>college and to base College in Maine and Pop Warner

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>high school college football, lacrosse all the way through. I wrestled.

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I've always maintained like physical activity has been a thing,

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>like like trail running, I serve, yoga, weightlifting, I was doing.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I was just gotten back into jiu jitsu right before

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I ruptured it, like all these things I do. Like

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that's how like my body and mind has been working

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>for years and then for two years basically it's stripped

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>away and not only like the so all that physical

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff is stopped. So I'm not getting any of the

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>positive feedback from my brain. I can't work as an actor.

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm isolated at home, and I just like I found

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>myself in a depression. I had saw a psychiatrist. They

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>put me on meds that didn't work at all, that

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that made it worse. He's like trying to add more

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that made it worse. Nothing was working, and I was

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>and I've told this like I was scared to death

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that I would never find my way back to the

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>person I was like the personality, like the drive I

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>had in life, Like I was the guy who was like,

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>let's go, let's go surf, Let's go night surfing, like

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>dancing with my like crazy but crazy fun, like dancing

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>with my dog, dancing with my daughter on the table. Whatever,

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>is like I'm that guy. And then all of a sudden,

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>So I've never been a depressed person, and so to

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>find me in this place, people are like, WHOA, what's

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>going on with him? And because yeah, right now, and

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I knew it, but I was like I could not

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>find a way out at all, until all of a sudden,

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I started cold plunging. We bought one cold plunging so

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 1>ona and I started doing it pretty extreme because I

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of do things that way. And my wife's like,

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>you're going crazy again, what are you doing there? It's

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>like forty one degrees. You're in there for ten minutes,

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>three times a day. But all of a sudden, I

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>felt like a spark inside my soul, like ignite that

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>was like a critical part of coming out of this.

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>And at the same time, I just made the choice.

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I safely got off all the medication he had me on.

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>So for you that then with the depression. What so

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the main things that helped you were the cold plunging

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>you said, sauna? What else? It was something that things

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 2>that helped you naturally.

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>This is the one benefit I think about social media

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>is like on Instagram, like is it it's Andrew Huberman, right,

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that's how you pronounce it to do you just follow him?

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's got to follow him all about them?

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there's always like clips of them and then

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you can go dive into their podcast. Like he's got

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 1>so many amazing things that I've learned from him, Doctor Peterson.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>This anyway, but even your room and alone was like

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>watching sunrise can totally change like your circadian rhythm if

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to start getting up early in the morning.

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>And I always wanted to be I the guy who

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>gets up at like four in the morning. All of

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, I started watching. I took my dog and

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>started watching. I probably saw I swear to you like

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>this in this between June and September, like forty sunrises

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and your you can watch the sunrise come up over

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the horizon for like five minutes before it can hurt

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>your eyes. And during that five minute span, the actual

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the what it like what it does to your brain

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and your body. It's like it's a really positive bio

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>feedback and does all these amazing things. He talks about

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it at length, and I would do it no justice.

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>But I just was like, I took all this information

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 1>and I just did all and just started stacking it.

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>And then I just became super disciplined about it. I

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>walked barefoot as much as possible. Grounding, I think is

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.439
<v Speaker 1>a real thing. People are like, what are you doing, dude,

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Like we're shooting a movie out in like Aguardulce movie ranch.

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>It's all sandy and rocky, and I'm like, now, this

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 1>feels so good on my feet. You have no idea.

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>You guys got to try it. But that's another thing,

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like you're getting vibrations from the earth and all this

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>sounds hokey pokey.

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 2>No. I love the grounding. I'm a big I'm a

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>big believer in grounding.

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>But I swear like I'm living proof that these things

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>work because I was so stuck. I came from like

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>probably a background kind of like yours. I'm not a professional,

0:35:55.160 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>but physical, mentally strong, everything good to a place of

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>absolute bottom, and such a bottom that I was like

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and even though my leg is my leg is still

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:15.439
<v Speaker 1>screwed up. It's like there's there's like nerve damage and

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm so but I haven't. I've changed my mindset about it,

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 1>like I don't let it consume me. I just I

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>work on it. I think I've already been to yoga

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and I've already ice planted and sad, and I'll go

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>to the gym and.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's the thing. I think it's all

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 2>about your mind and how you manage it and go, Okay,

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a process. But I'm either going to let

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>it affect the entire day or I'm going to do

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>something about it and then enjoy the rest of the

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>day exactly while dealing with it.

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 4>So do you completely avoid the Western medicine?

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>No? Yeah, yeah, I'm just because it just didn't work.

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>And they were adding like it was more like let's

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 1>add more because that's not and I know a lot

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>of people need them and they do work, but it

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't working for me. And I also was on

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>something that was like for sleep, and I didn't even

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>know the side effects. And then this other friend of

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.879
<v Speaker 1>mine was like, dude, you got to read the side

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>effects of what you're taking. And I did and I'm like,

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. And I was like I got off

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>of that like as fast as I could, because that

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>was like a really bad drug.

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 2>David, what was one of the things that your wife

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 2>did really well doing? And then what was one of

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 2>the things that was because you know, obviously a lot

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 2>of women listen to the show, so if their husband

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>is dealing with depression, what is something that she did

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>really great that helped you? And then what was something

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<v Speaker 2>that hurt it worse or that made it worse? I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she was a trooper. She hung in there.

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<v Speaker 1>She tried to give me all the support I needed

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<v Speaker 1>and also give me the space to try and figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out, like to see if I can figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, she it's a weird thing because when

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you're in it, there's no like and I know. And

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the crazy thing is, I've talked about this on one

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>other podcast. I've had like three strangers come up to

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 1>me one like just and be like, dude, I'm in

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the same situation. I need help, like what worked. And

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>one of them is like a close fuddy of mine

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<v Speaker 1>from high school and he just called and was like

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I've never told you this, but this is what's going

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>on and what how'd you get out of it? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was most proud of but to be honest,

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that I got off like that medication because she saw

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>like like it like it was like a sleep thing.

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>And also when I was on it, I would be

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>like out cold and like but she didn't even stir

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>me at times, and it wasn't good and the side

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>effects were not good. It took so much, like to

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>get out of bed in the morning. And I think

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>like from once I got off of everything, she was

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>like the proudest she's been with me, and I just

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>became like super dad all of a sudden. I was like,

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I because I knew. I was like,

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I'm the guy who's like dragging down

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>my family right now. That's the worst, Like as a dad,

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>as a husband, a father or son, Like nobody wants

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:45.919
<v Speaker 1>to be around a guy like that. It's just it's

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>no fun because it's and and but when you're in it,

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>there's none there's no easy way out. It's it's like

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a lot of work and you got to

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>find and nobody's telling you to go try these things either,

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>like like western medicine, it's like, okay, go to the psychiatrist,

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>go to the therapist and load up on medication and

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 1>do maybe whatever, maybe some breath work. But you know,

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I think someone needs to be spreading the message that okay,

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe you do need that stuff, but you know, also

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>why don't you try like going to the ocean, like

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>going for an ocean, swim walking in nature, watching sunrises.

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Like my nutrition. I don't eat any sugar. I eat

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:39.479
<v Speaker 1>really healthy, like planting our garden and eating your own

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>like whatever, even we don't need a ton of it,

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>but like we have our own herbs and tomatoes and cucumbers.

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>And there's something about these simple things when you combine

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>them together intrinsically, all of a sudden, there's this this

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 1>something changes within you that you are not controlling, but

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>it changes, and you feel like a life force come

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>back that you did not have before. And like and

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>also like I said, all of a sudden, I was like,

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to the gym, no matter why, Like I

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:16.240
<v Speaker 1>don't care if i feel like I'm tired, my leg hurts,

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>and I just kept going. And all of a sudden

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I kept going and now like I'm like doubling down

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and and I do breath work, and I do and

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I roll on my body and I try and meditate,

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and like I do. Lard Hamilton has a great app

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.439
<v Speaker 1>for breath work because you can do it, like there's

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 1>breath work in the car, breath work on the plane,

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's simple. It doesn't need to be complicated. But

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the combination of this stuff and it doesn't have to

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 1>take all day. But when you put all this stuff together,

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>it can really trigger such a positive physiological effect to

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>bring you out of the state of depression and darkness

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 1>that like I I would I just think it needs

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:03.240
<v Speaker 1>to be out there, this message.

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 4>You should write a program, yeah, combining all these things

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:08.359
<v Speaker 4>and gathing people through it.

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean I'm serious because like in some of

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the people on Instagram, I put a little clip and

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 1>some woman was like, oh my god, would you please

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>help me DM me? And I'm like, I'm no expert.

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I'm an expert, Like I'm not a like,

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.879
<v Speaker 1>but I know it worked. And I'm not making any

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 1>of this up because you know, and my from my background,

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I know people deal with depression, their whole life. That's

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>a different situation, and that's a different thing. So I'm

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>talking about someone who's had a situational what a situation,

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>ended up in a depression and then been so stuck

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>and overall, like this went on for two and a

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>half years, you know, the whole thing, and finally, you know,

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>just in like June is when I started kind of

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>coming out, and by July I was like, all of

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, it was like I was like hit the

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>bottom and then ricochete off the bottom like a rocket,

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>And it was like and the craziest thing is, like

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I used to during this period of darkness, I was like,

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I cannot f him believe this. This is the worst

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>thing that's ever happened to me in my life. I

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>cannot believe where I'm at. And now in retrospect, I

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>look back, I go because of what I've gained, Like

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've gained a superpower, because I feel

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:36.280
<v Speaker 1>like there's nothing, I honestly like, outside of something happening

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to my daughter, there's really nothing life can throw at

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 1>me that would rock me. Now, Like I could take

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>on anything after what I've dealt with.

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 7>And be okay, you know what, I mean, which is cool,

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 7>which is an amazing thing because when you fight your

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 7>way out of something, so when you.

0:43:54.520 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Feel so trapped and so it's just yeah, it's it's

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 1>it's scary because you you're like you don't see any

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>light and and then when you get out and all

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I became like like the real quickly,

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I had this movie that I was doing. I

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>did in September. I did like three movies back to back,

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and one of them was in particular very like emotionally

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and physically demanding role. And I felt like the work

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing now because of the experience I had, is

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a thousand times better than the work I did before.

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.800
<v Speaker 1>And like even the DP, like after.

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<v Speaker 8>I cut one of these scenes where I talk about

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 8>this whole this very the whole thing that happened in

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 8>the movie, at sometime my son and he goes, he

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 8>had I'd worked with them in two other movies, and

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 8>he goes to the director.

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:57.280
<v Speaker 1>He goes, he goes, Chokichi is good, but Oka what happened?

0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 1>He's like on a whole new level now, It's like like,

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>what's what happened to dude? And the director was like, well,

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a long story, but he's been through Helen back

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and he popped out the other side and he's basically

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 1>gained like an insight. And uh and like I think

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:19.919
<v Speaker 1>when people go through stuff like this and they come

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>out it's almost and not just sound corny. And I

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like I can like I'm gonna be able

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>to fly with a cape, but I feel like I

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>do have like a little bit of a superpower, you

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for shedding that superpower light. And yeah,

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 2>glad you're on the other side of it. And you know,

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 2>hopefully listeners that are listening, you know, can take some

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>of the things that you said and try to incorporate

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 2>that into into their their their life. And and yeah,

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>take the shoes off and go for a walk. So

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 2>thank you so much, Thank you so much, really appreciate it.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you guys, and spread the love.

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, of course, and thank you so much.

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, we're going to get a cold plunge.

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cold plunging SNA that's on our Christmas list. Anyways,

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 2>all right, we'll d M you when we get to California.

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, thanks David, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks David, have a good day.