WEBVTT - SYSK Live from SXSW: How UFOs Work 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:16.439 from House to works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.439 the podcast. I'm Josh Bark with me as always with 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:24.079 a little extra echo is Charles W Chuck Bryant. Hello. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.680 How are you doing, Chuck? I'm wil sir. Yeah, anything, um, 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:33.640 slightly unusual today? Oh we are in a different place 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:40.000 than normal. We are in Austin, Texas. Yes. Yeah, are 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.159 you guys from Austin that are cheering or is that 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.480 just enthusiasm? Yeah? Keep Austin weird. That's that's the motto. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.160 Is that right? So we're doing our best. I should 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.400 probably say that those of you listening on your iPods 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:55.680 Chucks talking to people who are watching this podcast right now. Yes, 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.720 he's not insane. I think I got a laugh track 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.160 three years. They got a laughter the Little Red Box 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.120 after three years. Um. So, yes, we're doing a lot 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.400 of podcasts. This is a little different for us. I'm 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:11.640 normally not so sweaty from being stared at when we record. Um, 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.520 but I'm getting a little more used to it. I'm fine. Yeah, 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.200 and um, I lost my coffee, So I'm gonna get 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:21.000 really dry. Oh you don't have coffee, I'll be okay, boy, 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:26.720 Chuck Josh, have you ever heard of the X files? Oh? Yeah, 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.600 it turns out a lot of that was true. Really Yeah? 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.399 Well okay, so not the um, not the whole child 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.279 healer who may or may not be like killing people, 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.959 like the the compartmentalized versions of the X files, but 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:42.720 the overarching thread with the aliens. Yeah, not not like 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:47.319 the shape shifters. According to how UFOs work on how 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:51.160 stuff works dot com, that's probably true. Well, you know 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.480 I'm a believer, are you. I'm I'm in the Fox 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.200 Smolder camp. I'm okay, although he's Hank Moody to me. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:02:00.480 Now to you, uh, it's the Californication. Okay. I thought 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.800 you would always be Fox Molder and now right, I 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.480 see nods, he's Hank Moody. Now that's a huge, huge 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.240 changeover it is. Yeah. I thought he's had a lot 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.120 more fun on California. I'm sure. I'm sure there's a 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.280 lot of brooding on X files and not so much 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.880 dirty dirty Well okay, so, um, let me give you 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.160 some examples. So the X files, Um, we're going kind 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:28.679 of retro here, all right, because the UFOs very nineties, 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.800 in very forties and even ancient ancient exactly. So, um, 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:40.120 have you heard of the ancient Indian sanscrit scriptures? Right, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.680 thank you very much, just pep, thank you very much, Justic, 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:50.640 I got the first peep um okay In in these 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:56.800 ancient Indian sanscript um writings, there is a description of 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.880 an airship and it actually talks about how this airship 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.320 can go forward and backward and vertically very quickly, and 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.560 a man can travel by sky um and in a 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.919 very short time. And the weird thing is these texts 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.639 were written like way before they were supposed to be airships, 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.280 right yeah, it's called the them on us, and they 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.880 describe things like a great flying bird made of light material. Um. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.800 They even describe a mercury engine with an iron heating 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.079 apparatus underneath. So they get really specific about how it 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.320 can move and how it operates. And this is not 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.320 anything that should be happening oddly specific, right, yeah, allow 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.960 me to continue. In twelve eleven, uh, it was written 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.360 that a group of people in England were at church 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.840 one day and there was a loud crash from outside 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.280 of the church and they all go outside. They're all 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.880 very dirty, I'm sure. Um. They go outside and they 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.880 look up and there's an airship. Again. You're gonna notice 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.720 airships keep popping up in this how UFOs Work podcast. Um, 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.480 and it's anchored, like an an er has has dropped 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.280 into the the steeple above the church and it's stuck. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.600 And so all the all the very very old timey 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.320 medieval people are like, what is going on? Some guy 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.680 comes down from the airship, tries to get the anchor out, 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.839 is grabbed and they're about to be killed. And the 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.200 bishops like, no, no, no no, just let this guy go. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.000 I don't know what his jam is. Um, so his 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:28.080 jam sou? So they the the airship cuts rope and 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:33.440 flies off, And I should point out it's weird, Rightah, 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.679 that's weird at any time, it's weird. So a folk 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:39.279 a folkloreist named Katherine Briggs points, I think she puts 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.960 it perfectly that this is one of those quote one 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:46.240 of those strange, unmotivated and therefore rather convincing tales that 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.600 are scattered throughout the early chronicles, like basically saying this 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.760 this this chronicler had no reason to just make this up. 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.880 And it's just so weird how specific it is. And 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.559 then we can fast forward to the nineteenth century tons 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:03.040 of airship sightings. Nebras it was huge, Texas was huge, California. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.800 It was basically like that whole James West steampunk thing, 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.039 but in the time right, so it wasn't retro. And 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.200 then just this February in Jerusalem there's a big sighting. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.640 There are several videos of I didn't hear about this one, well, 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.159 there are three different videos, and the founder of the site, 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:24.800 Marshall Brain, put it to bed or he tried to um, 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.000 saying like this is how it was hoaxed, not entirely convincingly, 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.360 but there's supposedly a UFO over the Dome Rock in Jerusalem. 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.640 And this was February, And if you go into the 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.839 Mutual UFO network website every day, there's still UFO reports 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.400 coming in. So the Mutual UFO Network move On. They 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.320 made tons of appearances in the next file, you know, 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.839 move on. They got nothing on the city who that's 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:52.440 a little foreshadow and pomp up nice chuck um. So 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.040 if you go on to the move on website, you'll 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.760 see that there's still just dozens of sightings every day. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.840 So this is very much embedded in um our culture, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.560 which is why we're about to talk about it now, 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:11.160 Chuck go that was my inge. All right, we're gonna 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.880 talk about UFOs. Let's start. Uh well that was sort 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.760 of the beginning, I guess, But let's start in the 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.960 mid twentie century. As everyone knows, UFOs were pretty big 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.480 in the nineteen forties and fifties, got a lot of press, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:29.159 and in fact, that's when the term UFO as unidentified 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.000 flying object was coined by the United States Air Force. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.120 I don't know if everyone knows that. Yeah, that's kind 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.080 of that's a big one. At least some people in 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.960 this room know that now. And uh, you know, unidentified 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.240 flying object, flying saucer, or flying disc. What we're really 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:48.279 talking about is alien spacecraft, right, I mean, let's let's 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.080 cut to the chase. That's what upologists have been talking about, right. 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.800 Is that how that's pronounced? Yes, ufology Okay, because I 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.880 kept saying ufo ologists, and that's that's like saying, uh, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.360 do you refer to the I R S as the herbs? Huh? 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:04.160 I don't know, so a fologist? Uh yeah, No, it's 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:08.600 you fologist, not a fologist, you fologists. So the Air 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:13.360 Force started investigating these things for real, um, and found 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:19.360 out that five of UFO sightings are unaccounted for. The 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.840 rest are explained away. You always hear weather, balloon, whatever 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:27.400 the heck that is, or hoax, hoaxes, lightning, Yeah, lightning, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.960 any any kind of a natural weather phenomenon can be mistaken. 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.320 And hoaxes is big people people like faking their photography 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:39.640 or crop circles. Yeah. Sure. Um, so that's a pretty 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.760 significant point that you just brought up, that there are 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.040 some cases of UFO sightings that are out there that 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:52.640 are um unexplained. Right, Yeah, where's the uh? I did 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.520 have a statin here on that it was five. No, 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.280 I have numbers, uh, twelve thousand UFO side is the 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:04.320 Air Force research between forty and sixty nine, So it's 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.560 twenty one years if my math is correct, and all 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.960 but seven hundred and one were explained away. But if 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.000 you ask me see that you can't explain. It's kind 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.120 of a lot. That's a significant number for sure, and 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.080 that's why I believe. And um, there's a guy named 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:25.000 Jay Alan Heinek who kind of figures big into uphology. Um, 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.000 he's the man or was he passed away down he's dead? Yes, 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.200 he was the man um, but he's still he kind 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.599 of lives on in this very long winded and detailed 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.600 definition of what a UFO is. Right, you wanna you 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.120 wanna take this one? Yeah? Should I read it? Can 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.640 you do it in one breath? There's no way I 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.000 can do it in one breath. But this is the 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.839 best definition we've got from doctor kinek or Is he's 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:50.840 an astronomers he doctor? Yeah, okay, oh yeah, the reported 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.800 perception of an object or light seen in the sky 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.960 or upon the land, the appearance, trajectory, and general dynamic 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.960 and luminescent behavior of which do not suggest a logical, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.400 conventional explanation, and which is not only mystifying to the 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:11.320 original percipients, but remains unidentified after close scrutiny of all 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.840 available evidence by persons who are technically capable of making 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.880 a common sense identification if one is possible. Period. And 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.800 that's one sentence, So that yeah, that says at all. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.000 So basically what he's saying is like after you know, 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.520 it's it's a sighting, and it's it seems weird and 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:31.760 then after closer examination, it really is weird. That's a 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.360 UFO sighting, right. That was his first draft. I think 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.160 he's like, the Air Force is like, can you get 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:38.480 a little more specific, and he's like, no, I'm in 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.760 a stronomy check on my hair. I have no time 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.320 to write sentences. That makes sense to you idiots. But 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.719 we say air Force because he was actually hired by 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.000 the Air Force. He was a faculty member at the 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.960 Ohio State University, which this article didn't say the no, 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.000 but that's the right way to say. You're get really picked. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:10:00.320 Any buck eyes out there, all right? One's all unique? Yeah, 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.120 and uh. In ninety eight they said, hey, dude, why 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.720 don't you come work for us? We got all these 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:10.200 weird things happening. We got a program called the Project Sign. Yeah, 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.400 it was originally Project Sign. Then it became Project Grudge, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.840 which I love, and then Project blue Book was what 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.120 they landed on. That's that's not a that's not a 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.960 good name for a scientific investigation, you know, things a 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.199 little no grudge, you know, one blue Book, imagine was 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.480 before the whole auto industry thing with used cars to 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.080 call no no, Little No. In fact, it grew out 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.280 of that airport investigation. Yeah, very cool. That's that's how 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.400 your cars rated now. So Heinek was his deal was 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.679 he was a skeptic. He was hired by the Air 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.319 Force not as someone to say, hey, these things are real, 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.960 let's just investigate it. And he was a big time 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.920 skeptic for quite a while. He was he was an astronomer. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.240 He didn't believe in extraterrestrial life anything. It's ninety eight, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.960 so he hadn't really given much thought to it. But 0:10:55.160 --> 0:11:00.640 eventually he became kind of a defector because ufology, uh, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.120 if anything is this um huge clash of the titans 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.120 between people who believe in UFOs and skeptics who for 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.840 them for believing in UFOs, right um, And he Nick 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.800 started out as a complete skeptic and then eventually, you know, um, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.120 they basically gave them all these files and said look 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.200 through these and see if this was an asteroid, if 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.400 this was a comment. Basically just get rid of a 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.319 big backlog to start with, right of his twelve thousand sightings, 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:27.959 and you know, he he signed off on lots of them, 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.960 and then he kept running across ones that made up 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.720 the seven hundred and one inexplicable cases. Yeah. At first 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.880 she called him puzzling, right, and then he he started 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.520 calling him like, oh my god, this is real, and um, yeah, 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:47.920 he became probably the most outspoken uh you faults. Uh 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.760 see that was weird. Yeah that that doesn't normally happen. Um, 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.199 he became one of the most outspoken you fall it 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.160 just people who said, yes, UFOs are real and uh 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.600 he was a position to really kind of make that 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.040 claim more than anybody else. Yeah, and he found himself 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.400 at odds with the Air Force. They were, um, I 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.200 don't think they knew what they were getting into when 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.320 they hired the scientist who was originally skeptic, And all 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.280 of a sudden he starts touting these things and the 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:18.400 Air Force is like, no, don't say these things. What 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.720 was his line about skepticism not having any part in 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.760 the scientific method or not? Ridicule? Ridicule. So there's another guy, 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.319 if you go a little further back, the first you 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.920 follogist is named Charles Fort and he was kind of 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.320 a hero of mine. Um, he was a scientist. Yeah, 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.080 if you if you read the Fort in Times, which 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.960 is one of the greatest magazines of all time. Um, 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:46.000 it's based on this guy's philosophy that yes, science UM 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:50.480 is the the proper approach to explaining the universe, but 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.800 you have to investigate everything incredulously or else you're just 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.280 kind of a jerk, right. You can't selectively say like, well, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.400 you know, science can't really explain this right now, so 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.040 it doesn't exists. It's not possible exists, and we're gonna 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.360 make fun of you for even thinking that. That's not 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.160 what science is about. And UM J Allen Heineck held 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:12.040 the same views, basically that that UM, through Project Blue 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:16.400 Book science was failing the public by not properly explaining, hey, 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.200 this is a weather balloon like. You don't know what 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:20.839 a weather balloon looks like. I don't know what a 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.920 weather balloon looks like. I don't know what. They were 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.640 failed at some point in time by science, and he 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.199 was upset about that. And then the idea that they 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.720 were keeping ridicule and scorn while not even carrying out 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.480 their duty irked him to say the least. So Heinek 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.920 is the guy actually that came up with the Heinech scale, 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.719 which you say, what is the Heinech scale? You might 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:45.640 know a better wait on what is exactly so we 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.120 should do this every totally love this. I don't know 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:52.920 what so nervous about. Uh. You might know the Heineck 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.920 scale better as the close encounters chart. So he's the 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.199 dude who invented it. And the first kind is a 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.000 citing if you see it close encounter of the first kind. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.280 The second kind is a citing plus physical evidence. So 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:14.040 like scat aliens scat uh crop circles. Sometimes they'll be 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.840 like vegetation that is like disintegrated sometimes. And I didn't 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.440 research this, But the spider web like things hanging from trees. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.800 What's that all about? Any idea? I couldn't find that either. Okay, 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.320 apparently that happens the UFOs nearby. Well, the big palm 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.560 with him is um like what they are, brittle to 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.360 the touch and just disintegrate UFOs. No, the spider web 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.920 like strings, it's like um, silly string. But that's been 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.840 left out for many many weeks. Got you? So that's 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.440 the second kind. The third kind um is observation of 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:49.000 an antimate uh animate being. It wasn't quite right according 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.160 to Steven Spield for oh, is that the third encount? 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.520 Well that's the third Yeah, they did see animate being 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.440 but let's get forward. After Heineck they added fourth, fifth, six, 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.920 and seventh kinds. He wouldn't have at to that fourth 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.840 kind is abduction, uh, and the fifth kind is bilateral 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:10.240 contact event through voluntary human initiated cooperation. So that was 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.960 really close. Encounters of the third kind should have been 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:17.120 the fifth kind because Frands watch Ruffo in the movie, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:23.040 you know, sent out the he initiated attach and there 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.520 was a sign for it too. He did, I don't 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.480 remember what that is and did you know that was 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:30.600 France watch Rufo I No, Rob probably did, famous director, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.880 he was in that movie. And then the sixth kind 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.000 is direct injury or death, which is the least fun kind, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.640 and the seventh kind is the best because that means 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:44.160 you are knocking boots with an alien and creating a 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.440 star child. That's true. Close en counter of the seventh 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.680 kind means you have sex with an alien and they 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.359 get pregnant, and there is there's a There is traditionally 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.480 a lot of sexiness involved with alien abductions, whether it's 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.600 forced copulation at this day, neared, anal probe, whatever, there's 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.800 some sort of sexuality associated with with abductions. You want 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.840 to go over some of the abductions. Right, you always 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.960 hear about prodding and poking and improbing, im probing, probing, Right, 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.600 where are we? Well, well, let's I guess let's talk 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.480 a little more about some of the characteristics of UFOs um. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:25.440 We talked about the strange weblike disintegrating remains um crop circles, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.000 crop circles which may or may not have been led 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.320 Zeppelin's dirigible. Who knows normal mutilation is sometimes they're associated 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.120 with that, and that is when you find let's say, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:39.600 cattle with organs removed but no signs of humans being 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.720 anywhere around. We should do one on that. We should 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.160 probably not um because I was looking this up and 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.600 apparently some Sheriff's department in Arkansas, when this like the 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:55.000 height of this cattle mutilation um scare um was going on, 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:58.360 they took a cow and I imagine shot it in 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.040 the head and left it where it lay, because for 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.480 you know, to to really undertake this, you have to 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.280 kind of kill a cow where it was and then 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.920 leave it alone. But they had a dead cow for 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:12.120 forty eight hours in this field and filmed it and 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.160 and said, hey, like all of the normal stuff that 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:19.920 a dead cow's body undergoes auto license, puture faction, like 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.160 all of this can explain. Like these mutilations you're talking about, 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.400 everybody just settled down, And I think it was kind 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.359 of like the same um, the same group of people 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.200 who were worried about Satanists kind of put a lot 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.480 of stock in the animal mutilation things. So I think 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.240 that one's kind of off the table. Radio and TV 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.399 interference happens a lot. Car ignition failure, which of course happened. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:44.960 I keep looking at Rob for close and times of 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.280 the third time because he's a movie nerd like me. 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:52.199 But yeah, the car won't start, radio cuts out, lights flicker, 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.480 you know, phones nearby. Yeah, there's a correlation sign. It's 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:01.320 a correlation. Uh. And then I guess that's about it, right, Well, 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.119 I got a couple of stats. Oh that's not it, 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.880 trust me, that's it for that part. Uh. I looked 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.560 up UFO sidings by state because I was curious, what 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.520 state do you think leads the way New Mexico's good 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:18.119 guests about a good guests out now? Think about it? 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:24.280 Crazy people cuckoo California. I hope there's no one from 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.439 California in here. You know, they know they're crazy. Sorry, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.040 but uh, seven thousand and eighty one sidings and this 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.359 is a very you know, this isn't high science. This 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.720 is from the Center for UFO Studies or CUPHOS. There's 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.520 no move on, There're no move fine or SETI And 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:44.480 uh number two is actually Washington State at thirty eight three. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:46.840 I did look up Texas because that's where we are 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.880 three thousand, one seventy two. And I looked up Georgia. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.400 What do we have about a thousand? Kay and guess 0:18:55.440 --> 0:19:02.400 what state is the least? Now keep keep going. Yeah, 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.800 you'll get to North Dakota, which I figure I forget 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.959 they'd be lousy with it because all the I don't know, 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.359 desert space seems appealing to aliens. I think everyone in 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.800 North Dakota is too depressed to look up. Well that 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.600 maybe there's not a lot of people there, so that 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.600 may actually, you know, I have something to do it. 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.120 So only a hundred and sixteen in North Dakota, and 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.280 we do have a pole in here that is so 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.680 outdated that we would like to conduct a live pole. 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.479 Since we have what about fifty people here, I would say, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.439 all right, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do this 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.440 by applause, but you're not rooting for it. So don't 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.920 feel like you have to go crazy if you believe 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:43.760 in it. We just want to get a little, a 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:49.200 little thing. So if you believe the aliens have contacted humans, 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:59.080 just some light golf clapping, Okay, CNN says, uh, if 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:05.240 you believe alien to have abducted humans, no braves, zero 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:11.320 zero because CNN of the people polled and then they said, 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.280 believe the government is hiding something about aliens. Wait wait, wait, 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.440 let everybody come from them. Yeah, the government. I think 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.159 more people think the government's hiding something and then believe 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:26.720 a something. I don't think that works. It works. That's 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:30.920 our first live pole. So um I found another poll 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.679 in two thousand and eight, and the only thing I 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.000 could find was, you know, do you believe that there's 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.439 intelligent life that's been to Earth and contacted humans? And 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.480 it was down to like, which is probably about what 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.800 we got here, but that's significantly less than the sixty 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.000 I think it was y two k angst And you 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.440 think that had everybody like there's something going on. We're 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:56.879 gonna die, like everyone's our computers are gonna stop. I 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:58.040 was one of the guys, and I was like, hey, 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:00.800 people are stupid. Nothing's gonna happen. Well, you know that 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:04.200 I have my van packed with water and shotguns because 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.320 you were living the right. Those are just my normal 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:11.440 accouter mall so Uh, Project of Blue Book, Uh, the 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.280 Air Force. Uh. Eventually in nineteen nine said you know what, 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:17.800 We're gonna close up shop, or at least that's what 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:22.000 they said. M hmm. Yeah, they said they were going 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.200 to close up shop. Uh. And then they put out 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.000 to me, what is some tricky wording with three statements. 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:31.320 They said, no UFO reported, investigated and evaluated has ever 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.119 given any indication of threat to our national security. Doesn't 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.120 mean that they didn't find anything, they just didn't deem 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.080 it a threat. And then there's been no evidence submitted 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:45.000 to the Air Force at sightings categorized as unidentified represent 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:49.480 technical developments beyond the range of present day knowledge, and 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:52.320 there's been no evidence indicating the sightings categories is under 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:58.920 unidentified are extraterrestrial. So like bam, boom bam, we're closing 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.719 up shop by that, suckers. But that's tricky to me 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:06.280 because all they said was classified as unidentified internally as 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.000 soon as they found out, they might go, crap, let's 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.879 change the They don't quantify the criteria for their categorization. No, 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.760 but if they did find something right and kept it internal, 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.000 they were still saying like, these were kind of so 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.560 so aliens. If they're they weren't doing anything that we 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.200 couldn't already conceive of, you know. Um, And I guess 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.320 they were friendly at least because they weren't a national 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.640 security threat. Either that or they were easily like beat 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:35.119 up with the elbows an alien. Yeah, it's how you 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.840 go at everybody. But I think it's I think it's 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:43.800 worth pointing out this is a Department of Defense um publication. 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:45.920 You would be very hard pressed to find the d 0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.920 D print and release anything that's talking about aliens today. 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.520 But from nineteen to nineteen sixty nine they carried out 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.680 this very famous investigation. Whether it was half hearted or not, 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:02.000 like they were actually you know, spending tons of taxpayer 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:05.760 money on this, and it was It's a significant moment 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:10.920 in history where everyone believed in aliens right right now, 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:14.640 everybody just believes that the government's hiding something, they're on something. 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.399 So it moved from the government to the private sector 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:22.320 with set, which we've mentioned is the search for Extraterrestrial 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:26.480 intelligence and to the Center for UFO Studies. So there's 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:29.560 a lot of work still going on. And these aren't 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.920 cracked pots. Uh. A lot of them are very scientific 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:36.320