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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Ll that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edith State is that? Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tye, welcome back to the salid verbal

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Speaker 2: Boys and girls. My name is ty Hildenbrandt, that guy,

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Speaker 2: that fine gentleman over there in the heart of the Midwest,

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Speaker 2: the one, the only, the incomparable Dan Rubinsk, Sir, how

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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm sad. I'm gonna be honest with you. Oh, It's

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Speaker 3: it's been a season, ups and downs. It's been long,

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Speaker 3: it's been short, but this is the best. This is

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Speaker 3: the best week of the season, and I'm sad that

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Speaker 3: it's all downhill from here. Ty, I mean, I love

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Speaker 3: conference championship weekend. I love random bowl games, you know.

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Speaker 3: I love the high level football of the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes high level, sometimes not so high level. But

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Speaker 3: I'm a little wistful. I'd love to go back to

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Speaker 3: Week eight. No, no, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering if you want to go sad Dan Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Now a theme for this week.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why I'm not. I didn't even

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Speaker 3: think of an s nickname.

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Speaker 2: Neither did I. Neither did I.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing. It is your choice. Maybe we'll come up

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Speaker 3: with it throughout the rhythm of the show. But today, today,

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Speaker 3: because today is what today is, you have final say,

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Speaker 3: no matter what your gut instinct is. Maybe it's my choice,

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Speaker 3: but you say that's the one I want. But if

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, because today, Tie, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty, I'm for.

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Speaker 1: Doorte yourtey. That's so funny. Last time I heard that,

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Speaker 1: I laughed or hard. I fell off my dinosaur tie.

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday, entering your fifth decade of life here on

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Speaker 3: our Rivalry Week preview show.

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Speaker 2: Forty trips around the Sun for yours truly. Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: last one was better than most of them. Thank you, Dan,

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Speaker 2: no problem.

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Speaker 3: Did you like the al Michaels forte forte?

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Speaker 2: That was good? That was good. I appreciate that very much.

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Speaker 3: It's good to be with you on my birth under

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Speaker 3: under the whole thing, I'm gonna tell you this. This

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Speaker 3: is behind the music with sublimes forty ounces to Freedom.

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Speaker 3: Come on every little detail you deserve.

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that very much, always thought Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be with you. It is sort

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Speaker 2: of the gift that keeps on giving that we get

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Speaker 2: to do this show with one another every week, and

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Speaker 2: that we get to do the Rivalry Week podcast no

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Speaker 2: less on my birthday. You know the drill on Rivalry Week.

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Speaker 3: Don't you gotta throw those records out?

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Speaker 2: He's taking me. Throw them out the window. Do what

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Speaker 2: you will with the records, but you throw them out.

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Speaker 2: And we've got a bunch of games here on the slate.

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Speaker 2: It's a robust slate of games that we're going to

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Speaker 2: go through today. Well, yeah, you look at the records

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Speaker 2: and it's like whatever, dude, throw them out. We don't

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Speaker 2: need those records getting in the way collecting dust. Throw

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Speaker 2: got big rivalries in college football. So we got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of big headliners that will go through. Typically, what

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Speaker 2: we'll do on the show is we'll organize our document accordingly.

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Speaker 2: So every week, you got like five big games, right,

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Speaker 2: on our YouTube channel. Yes, we're going to go through

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Speaker 2: We want to do our best to get to as

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Speaker 3: about every single one of these matchups. We're gonna squeeze

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Speaker 2: Shall we dance? Dan? Shall we do it to? Let's

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Speaker 2: The week Week thirteen, known in these parts is Rivalry Week.

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Speaker 3: Daniel HM, Yes, I agree, And we're recording this on

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Speaker 1: I can't believe Cincinnati's one.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the weird thing you texted me this

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Speaker 3: Do not disrespect the bucket. Do not disrespect the bucket.

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Speaker 3: It's a Civil War era bucket found on an Indiana farm.

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Speaker 3: So that's what's wonderful and beautiful about this sport, and

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Speaker 2: a little bit later on in our segment, our DraftKings

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, let's talk right out of the

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Speaker 2: So look on the spreadsheet that I maintain that I

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Speaker 2: These are both playoff ish teams. I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 2: The operative question is can Michigan win. Can Michigan win Dan?

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Speaker 3: to be a very specific process. It is the pass rush.

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Speaker 3: a quality attribute. It's there, It's absolutely there that they

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Speaker 3: can either win this game. It's in ann Arbor, correct

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Speaker 2: But because I'm married into a Michigan we all do

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Speaker 3: Dan, Yeah, I understand you turned your back on Lehigh.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely hate it. But there are when I can

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Speaker 3: State played Penn State a couple weeks. Okay, that was

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Speaker 2: The problem for the Wolverines is exactly what you said,

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Speaker 2: But again, I am not confident in that at all.

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Speaker 2: So if you're an Ohio State fan, if you're hearing this,

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Speaker 2: I think both are really good teams, and this matchup

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Speaker 1: Fan, should it though? Shuit? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think if you've watched Ohio State the past couple

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Speaker 2: Hold on? Yeah? I have watched Ohio State the last

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Speaker 2: amazing against Penn State. They sure as hell weren't amazing

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Speaker 3: Okay, And it was on the road, the Nebraska game,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Penn State game wasn't. And you'll recall

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Speaker 2: call it the big game. That's true. Thirty three to

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Speaker 2: twenty four Ohio State wins barely covers.

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Speaker 3: Kincaid McNamara get injected with whatever Sean Clifford was, the

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Speaker 2: The magic juice, the fief of Spray, whatever it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, thirty three to twenty four is my predicted score.

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Speaker 3: So a near close call cover, but Ohio State managed

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Speaker 2: So elsewhere in that early block of games, clearly Ohio

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Speaker 3: Is Chandler Morris starting at quarterback for Florida?

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Speaker 2: Is that a thing?

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Speaker 3: Should he just go around as like the Johnny Appleseed

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Speaker 3: It has as a fun name, but Georgia Tech's on

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Speaker 3: on an offense. If it's Jordan the Yates. It was

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Speaker 3: It seems appropriate. Wake Forest PC though tie it has

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Speaker 3: it has divisional implications, Atlantic Division implications. Wake wins, and

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Speaker 2: You went through the catacombs of the ACC tie breakers, right, yep.

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Speaker 3: Wake losing two BC knocks them out. NC State losing

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Speaker 3: there's that so that that game actually has implications. We

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with Wake for as much as I

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Speaker 2: They just couldn't keep pace. Wake maybe better than I

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to root for Wake in that one.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I don't really.

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Speaker 2: I don't really think they give a damn about the

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Speaker 3: Unless you believe that there is relief right that there

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Speaker 3: Reinvigoration in Ben Hill Griffin. That would have to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going Florida State outright. Yep. I don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Knowles here. Yeah done. Let's move

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Speaker 2: over to the three point thirty block, the afternoon block

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Speaker 2: the Iron Bowl Saturday, three point thirty CBS. It is

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Speaker 2: Alabama minus nineteen and a half on the road at Auburn.

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Speaker 2: In normal circumstances, a road tilt at Auburn would not

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Speaker 3: Issue, especially pushing up against three touchdowns as a favorite.

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Speaker 3: But bo Nix is out for the year and Auburn

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Speaker 3: I want to take those points, but I cannot find

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but it's that number though. It's that number.

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Speaker 3: Whereas Alabama has played not down but has not separated

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the number. It's just the number

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Speaker 3: They're probably playing a little bit with style points, right

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Speaker 3: Obviously they have played down there. There is going to

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Speaker 3: they should be fine. Alabama's weak. This is allowing bigger

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Speaker 2: Finley.

433
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 3: You know, he'll throw the ball down field. He's fearless

434
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 3: in that way, but I just think he's too mistake prone.

435
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 3: And Auburn at this point is two one. No, you

436
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 3: saw bon Nicks, by the way, on some sort of

437
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 3: stream gave Alabamas a bulletin board material that the officials

438
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: are always on Alabama's side. Okay, yeah, sure, which is

439
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's talking, that's not really bulletin

440
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 3: warban heal for Alabama material. But I'm going Bama here.

441
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 3: I just don't have that reason. I'm right there with

442
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: you if I if I could point to something, but

443
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: seeing Auburn and you know, not scoring a touchdown with

444
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: Bonnicks against Texas A and m stuff like that, it's

445
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 3: just South Carolina think scares me. It's just it's too scary.

446
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: So roll Tide.

447
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: I mean my thing is, if TJ. Finley were good

448
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: enough to beat Alibama, wouldn't he have been playing all along? Well?

449
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: Bo Nicks has beaten Alabama. Does didn't mean he was

450
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: necessarily amazing, but he was the quarterback when Auburn did

451
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: beat Alabama. Yeah, look at you can you can bank

452
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: on him saying Okay he is. He has been raw,

453
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: he has been cold, and now he's warming up and

454
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: maybe he'll play to the moment, you know, at home

455
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: War Eagle.

456
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 2: I don't know the fact that we're ending all of

457
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: these sentences with questions familiar things have happened tells you

458
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: everything you need to know. I'm with you. I'm going

459
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: Alabama minus the number. Why not? That's such a big number.

460
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, but then we moved to another game on

461
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: Saturday at three point thirty ten. I'm ready, by the way,

462
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: as we go in reverse order through rivalry week, because

463
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: there are games on Friday and Thursday that we will

464
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: discuss here towards the end. Mm hmm.

465
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: What are we calling the Oregon State Oregon game these days?

466
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: I don't think anything official has been used to updates

467
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: of a war. I'm going with Platypus Cup because they

468
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: play for the Platypus Trophy, because of course that approximates

469
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: the difference between a beaver and a duck. So I

470
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: like the Platypus Cup. I think that's a fun thing

471
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: to say, and it's already in existence with the trophy.

472
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: That's what I'm rolling with. But you know your mileage mayberry.

473
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: The Platypus Cup three point thirty on ESPN. It is

474
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: Oregon State at Oregon. Oregon is favored by seven points.

475
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 2: So the Beaver's pulled off the dub last year in

476
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: Corvallis forty one thirty eight. Both teams have a lot

477
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: to play for in this one. Both teams can win

478
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve North. Here are the scenarios for Oregon.

479
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: It's very straightforward. You win, you win the North, You're

480
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: into the packed bald title game. Yep. For the Beavers,

481
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: you gotta win, and you gotta hope that Wazoo wins

482
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 2: the Apple Cup on Friday night then they win it. Correct,

483
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: So we'll see, but both teams have a lot to

484
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 2: play for. Maybe by then Oregon State won't, but either way,

485
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: this is matchup that I think Oregon State shortly will

486
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: be ready for I wonder Dan, will there be any

487
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: kind of letdown for the Ducks having lost that game

488
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: getting drilled last week by thirty one on the road

489
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: against Utah.

490
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I think the letdown happened at the

491
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: beginning of the first quarter against Utah. The letdown might

492
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 3: be out of their system. All I can tell you

493
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: about this game is I would take the points if

494
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: you're a betting human. My feel on Oregon is it's

495
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 3: going to be a close game because both of these

496
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: teams are going to play similarly, and that is rely

497
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: on the offensive line, try to control the clock, try

498
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: to run the hell out of the ball. Oregon State

499
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: is an excellent running team if you watch BJ Baylor.

500
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: Now it's against the Pac twelve and some of the

501
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: softer Pack twelve defenses, but their offensive line is legit.

502
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: Did you know, by the way, that Oregon State has

503
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: an a second string inside linebacker who has eight touchdowns

504
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: for this team. I do. Yeah, he has a specialty player.

505
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he comes in and runs like wildcare stuff in

506
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: the you know, in goal line scenarios. Oregon State's a

507
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: pretty good team. Now, they haven't been great on the road.

508
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: They're not a great passing team. They don't have a

509
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: gravitational player outside like they did with I think it's

510
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: Isaiah Hodgens. Hodgkins Hodgens. A couple of years ago, he

511
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: was terrific. But all I can tell you about this

512
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: game is it's going to be over in like ninety

513
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: seven minutes. I think both teams are going to be

514
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: happy to run the hell out of the ball, and

515
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: I think Oregon wins this game by four or five points.

516
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: But I'm happy, happy, thrilled to take the.

517
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 3: Points in this one because as we saw against Utah,

518
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: the Oregon defense is a really tough time getting off

519
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: the field in Oregon State just they want to run

520
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: outside zone. They want bj Baylor to find five and

521
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: a half yards at a time and slowly drain the

522
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: life out of defenses that they play against. And Oregon's

523
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: just had a tough time getting off the field in

524
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: those you know, third and fourth, third and sevens or whatever.

525
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 3: And Jonathan Smith is just a very savvy coach. So

526
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 3: I think ultimately talent is going to win out, and

527
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: the ability to make plays down field occasionally in the

528
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: creativity of Joe Morehead wins out. But I think it's

529
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: too many points. Mario doesn't cover at home, he just doesn't.

530
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm going to Oregon State. I'm

531
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: not a big fan of their defense either. While we're

532
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: talking about defense, but their offense is actually quite good.

533
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, they should be able to move the ball

534
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: against a banged up Oregon defense. The other thing, and

535
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 2: maybe I'm shifting into my bowl picking mentality here, I

536
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 2: don't know, but I would think this game has to

537
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: just mean more for Oregon State, doesn't It Like you

538
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: got to go back twenty years to the Dennis Erickson

539
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: era to find a situation where Oregon State actually had

540
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: something to play for, and just talking about a bowl,

541
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a conference championship.

542
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: No, no, it's not even that long. Because I was

543
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: at the game. I was at the game in two

544
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: thousand and eight. I believe if Oregon State were to

545
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: beat Oregon in that matchup in Corvallis, they would have

546
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: gone to the Rose Bowl. And I got to watch

547
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: Oregon and.

548
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: I forget who started that game.

549
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: Ohay, must've in Jeremiah my solely go to Corvallis and

550
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: drop like sixty five on them, and Oregon State fans

551
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: left early and there were all these sad Roses left

552
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: in the stands because they were ready to celebrate a

553
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: Rose Bowl berth with that win over Oregon, and the

554
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: Ducks just destroyed them. But even still, Okay, yeah, so

555
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: maybe my years are off, Yeah about thirteen years. Yeah,

556
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: but it's still been a long time.

557
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: Yes, And you know the conference has changed now you

558
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: got the conference championship game and all that. But I

559
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: just feel like perhaps Oregon State will be in a

560
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: different mindset, especially if Washington State wins that Apple Cup game,

561
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: which is very possible on Friday night.

562
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Beams are coming off of a win

563
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: against Oregon last year.

564
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: The coming off of a win. They're coming off of

565
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: a win. And you know, one of the things that

566
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: was a little off putting in the Oregon game last

567
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: week against Utah is it just felt like Utah was

568
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: way more intense going into that game. Granted home field

569
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: environment and all that, but it just felt like Oregon

570
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: wasn't prepared to deal with that level of intensity. And

571
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: if we see that in any way, shape or form

572
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: from Oregon State, I could absolutely see it being a

573
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: game where it's close and they just run and it's

574
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: like a four point win for somebody. So yeah, I'm

575
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: with you, let's go points. Yeah.

576
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: I also say Anthony Brown's wrist is a little bit

577
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: beat up, but everybody says he's good to go Oregon

578
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: starting safety and sort of the field general got hurt

579
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: in the game against Utah, he's supposedly good to go.

580
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: O verone McKinley, and honestly, there were a lot of

581
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: points there for Oregon in the passing game, and so

582
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: maybe Anthony Brown is more comfortable throwing the ball downfield

583
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: at home. I don't know what the weather's supposed to

584
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: be like, We've gotten some real soggy, gross matchups between

585
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: these two teams. But it's entirely possible Oregon wins this

586
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: game fifty five to twenty three. I'm saying it's on

587
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: the table. I'm just saying it's not the likeliest outcome.

588
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So we've got a pretty loaded slate here in

589
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: the afternoon. Let me read through a few of these

590
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: games and we can circle back. Also at three point thirty,

591
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: this one on ABC, Pence eight a one point road

592
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: favorite at Michigan State.

593
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: It's the Land Grand Trophy. Isn't there a trophy?

594
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: In that one Land Grant Trophy. Yeah, I didn't see

595
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: that on the dock. Also Saturday at three thirty, we've

596
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: got Northwestern at Illinois for the Land of Lincoln Trophy.

597
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: Illinois by Walck of the week, by the way, love

598
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: it block of the week, Illinois minus six and a half.

599
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: Northwestern so bad this season, and Illinois's got a lot

600
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: of flaws, don't get me wrong, but they'll give you

601
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: a game they've given.

602
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: And Northwestern, by the way, terrible against the spread. Vegas

603
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: has been really for some reason, trying to properly rate

604
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: them and they just cannot.

605
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: Uh. Three forty five ACC Network for the Commonwealth Cup.

606
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: We've got Virginia Tech on the road at Virginia. Virginia

607
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: favored by seven. Also at three forty five on their

608
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: respective conference network, the SEC Network, it is Vandy at Tennessee.

609
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: Tennessee favored by thirty one. At four PM on Fox

610
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: for Paul Bunyan's Acts a great trophy again one of

611
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: those quirky college football things that only exists in college football,

612
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: of course, Wisconsin minus seven on the road at Minnesota.

613
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: We've got my favorite trophy, the Territorial Cup game at

614
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: four o'clock on PAC twelve network between Arizona and Arizona State.

615
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: Arizona State favored by twenty so handful of games there, Dan,

616
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: what jumps out to you? What are you excited about?

617
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: I mean all of these games pretty much. I would

618
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: love to see Vandy cover this spread and show some

619
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: life for Clark Lee at the end of the season.

620
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: That'd be fun.

621
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm taking Michigan State at home, are you? They finished

622
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: the year on the high, on a high note, Yeah,

623
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: I am.

624
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean, who's starting this game? Is a Christian? Mayu

625
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: who started? I have no idea. My assumption is I

626
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: haven't seen anything. Again, we're recording this on a Tuesday.

627
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: My assumption is that if Cliff is healthy, they're going

628
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: to give the Sean Clifford. Okay, that's my assumption. I'd

629
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: love to see Vey you get the start this week,

630
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: but I'll believe that when I see it. I think James.

631
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: I think James Franklin's loyal to you know, Cliff and

632
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: him being a senior, and I don't think he's coming

633
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: back next year. He surely could, so I think that

634
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: he will probably be the guy. Yeah. The reason I'm

635
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: taking Penn State is I think the Cats out of

636
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: the bag at this point, and you can clearly throw

637
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: on Michigan State. It's just the thing that's the only

638
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: thing on offense that Penn State does well. They can

639
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: throw on occasion. So I'm inclining to go Penn State there,

640
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: even though it's a tough road spot.

641
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: I'm just not ready to color Michigan State by their

642
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: last week. Essentially, I think at home in this spot,

643
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: I think they can win this game, maybe an ugly fashion,

644
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: but I think they can pop a couple I think

645
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker can get loose a couple times. I think

646
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: they're gonna win this game. I think, you know, just

647
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: finish out the year in a strong way. Illinois, I'm

648
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: right there with you. I like them over Northwestern. I

649
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: just a team that can't play offense or defense is

650
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: troubling to me even and I think Illinois is showing

651
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: some fight at the end of the sea. Somebody pointed out,

652
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: by the way, can we please not call Illinois win

653
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: over Nebraska an upset. Illinois has a better record. Now,

654
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: Illinois was a dog at home. I get that, but

655
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: at this point, yeah, we can look back and be like, well,

656
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: Illinois took care of business. Illinois very much took air

657
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: of business. Virginia Virginia Tech is I'm taking Virginia here.

658
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: Hopefully Brendan Armstrong continues to get healthy, but I still

659
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: think they have the pop to finish out the season

660
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: in an impressive way. I saw, I forget if it

661
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: was messageboard geniuses some of the Twitter account that post

662
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: college football message board accounts and posts that a Virginia

663
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: Tech fan was asking for an interim interim because I

664
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: saw in the stead of Justin Twente's interim in Blacksburg.

665
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: I saw that sign.

666
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: Not a great sign. But I'm taking the points here

667
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: because despite the fact that Tech fired for wente they

668
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: still played really hard against Miami Interesting and they came back.

669
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: More importantly, they came.

670
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: Back gave up a ton through the air.

671
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: I hear you. They came back to make it close

672
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: late in that game after being down eighteen, So there's

673
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: still some fight in this team. I think they'll still

674
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: play hard. I think Virginia wins, but I think Virginia

675
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: Tech covers in a rivalry.

676
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: It could be a letdown spot for Virginia as well.

677
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: Though it's a rivalry game, it's not there's no letdown

678
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: in the Commonwealth cop Fandy, Tennessee. I'm taking the points.

679
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: I think it's too many points. I think Tennessee comfortably

680
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: wins this game. But I think it's going to be

681
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: something like, I don't know, thirty to ten something.

682
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think about the Wisconsin Minnesota game?

683
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: I had trouble we're taking I'm taking the beagers. Yeah, why,

684
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: I can't trust Minnesota and it's a rivalry game, I

685
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: get that, but against a terrific, terrific defense in what

686
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: Wisconsin has, I think their ceiling is relatively low on offense.

687
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: I know there have been moments where they've looked good

688
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: and they've scored points, but seeing what I've seen in

689
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: those stretches from Minnesota on offense, I'm just going with

690
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: the strongest thing in this game. I think there's a

691
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: reason they're favored by a touchdown on the road against

692
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: a decent Minnesota team. For sure, a decent team, but

693
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: I think, excuse me, I think Wisconsin is going to

694
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: generate turnovers and they're going to score on both offense

695
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: and defense, and they'll win this game. I don't know,

696
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: thirty to seventeen or maybe twenty eight thirteen. How about

697
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: that I haven't picked a Minnesota game right in two years? Yeah,

698
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: and MINNESOTAA My logic here is that if the Gopher

699
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: attack as we know it consists of handing it off

700
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: to whichever running back isn't hurt and or the occasional

701
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: pass out wide to Chris Autman Bell, whom we love

702
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: on this show. We love Chris Bell. Yeah, of course,

703
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that's enough to get the job done

704
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: against a Wisconsin defense that is legitimately very good, in

705
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: an offense that has gotten better now that they've gotten

706
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: Braylen Allen on track. So true.

707
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: I think guy suggested war Machine as a nickname for him.

708
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't for good. Wasn't there a guy named

709
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 2: war Machine in UFC who is like a really bad

710
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: dude that we don't want to associ with a good

711
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: running back that we're fans of.

712
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna come up with something unique to the

713
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 3: solid verbal and the way we did Jonathan Taylor tailback.

714
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: We'll do something for Braylen Allen, especially if he keeps

715
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 3: it up in a rivalry game. So you don't think

716
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: Minnesota can keep it.

717
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: I think they can keep it real close. I just

718
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna win or cover.

719
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: Well, if they don't keep it within seven, it's not

720
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: for most of the game.

721
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Maybe not down there. Oh all right, there is no

722
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: reason the Territorial Cup should be a close game, right.

723
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: Arizona State's favored by twenty but Arizona State does do

724
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: these random disappearing acts. In Arizona right now is playing

725
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: whistle to whistle. Mm hmm. I just can't justify it.

726
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 2: I think I have to go Arizona State.

727
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: I think Don Brown's gone though, right too. He went

728
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: to UMass and he's he's not coaching out the year.

729
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: I believe that's right. Yeah, okay. This game, though, does

730
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: give me the chance to tell one of my favorite

731
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: rivalry trophy stories. Oh okay, and that is the Territorial Cup.

732
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: The actual Territorial Cup. Dan went missing for eighty years. Yeah,

733
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: from eighteen ninety nine to nineteen eighty three. It was gone.

734
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: They didn't know where it went. Randomly, it turned up

735
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: in a church basement in Tempe in nineteen eighty three.

736
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: They didn't actually start awarding this to the winner of

737
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: the game until two thousand and one. Now, because of

738
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: the history there are very strict protocols in place for

739
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: the territorial I would think, so try and keep this

740
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: thing safe. They created a replica so they have something

741
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: for everybody to celebrate with on the field, but the

742
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: actual trophy is like over one hundred years old. It's

743
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: a really old trophy and they don't want to damage

744
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: the thing. The original cup is always to be handled

745
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: per official protocols with white cotton gloves. It is never

746
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: to be cleaned. Meanwhile, the replica can be cleaned with

747
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: an appropriate silver cleaner or polish. But obviously they're very

748
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: very strict about the territorial cup. Right now, Dan, I

749
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: thinkm cup goes to Asu.

750
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to be very strict and say all Arizona

751
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: State needs to do is hand it often.

752
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: Let's move to the nightcap on Saturday? Shall we yep?

753
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: Saturday seven point thirty ABC. Yes, it's the bedroom game, Dan,

754
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: It's a big one.

755
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: I might have to watch this one on my phone

756
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: while I'm bowling.

757
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 2: Is a big guy here? Yeah, big boy game. Oklahoma

758
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: on the road at Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State favored by

759
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: three and a half points, Dan. This one was in

760
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: Norman last year. Oklahoma annihilated Oklahoma State. Spencer Rattler went

761
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: for three oh one and four touchdowns. Spencer Sanders, you

762
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: know what he did ninety seven yards and a pick. Yeah,

763
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: that's not good enough. But these are different teams, now,

764
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: aren't they? I think so? Oh yeah, different teams. That's

765
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: important context. The past is prologue. But Oklahoma still is

766
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: the winners of six in a row. Here Lincoln Riley's

767
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: four to zho against Mike Gundy. Yeah. What we know

768
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: about this game is that the Pokes defense is far

769
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: and away the best unit of the field. Yep, top

770
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: ten defense by any measure. They haven't given up more

771
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: than twenty four points in any game this season. I

772
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: am legitimately worried about whatever Jim Knowles is cooking up

773
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: for Caleb Williams or Spencer Ret's a lot. Yeah yeah,

774
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: whoever plays quarterback for the Sooners, I don't know. I

775
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: think their defensive line, the Poke's defensive line against Oklahoma's

776
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: offensive line, is the chess match to watch here. That

777
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: is what I will be watching. I won't necessarily know

778
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: what I am watching, but if you see one side

779
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: get more push on the other, that will be your tell.

780
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: That is what I am watching. I am taking the

781
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: points in this game, and I can explain why, but

782
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: I want to get your take first. I'm ready. What

783
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: is your view on this game? Oh uh, pokeslock of

784
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: the week? Really? Yeah? Yeah, come on go big block

785
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: of the week.

786
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is underthink express to me. This is I'm

787
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: the engineer reporting for duty.

788
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: Here.

789
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: We're gonna take this train to the Big twelve championship game.

790
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: You mentioned it.

791
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: The best thing on the field is the Oklahoma State defense.

792
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: And it's Caleb Williams, right, that's his name, Caleb Williams.

793
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: This is his name.

794
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 3: Is he playing in Norman or is he playing anywhere else?

795
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: He's playing somewhere else.

796
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: Okay, and how is he played anywhere else? Well, true

797
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: road environment. He played well in the game against Texas.

798
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: I mean, now, downgrade a little come see km SA

799
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: ty forget you you're you're you have like the matrix

800
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 3: green digits in your head trying to figure out a

801
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: way do what if?

802
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 2: But and third quarters blah blah is gonna win this game?

803
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: The line's only three and a half. It's not like yeah,

804
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 2: it's not like anybody is like they're gonna win this game.

805
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 2: Three and a half. What is Caleb Williams shown you recently? Nothing?

806
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: He ran for a touchdown, he threw a nice touchdown

807
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: a week ago, but nothing? What and again?

808
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: So they they beat who they beat last week, Iowa

809
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 3: State at home at home Iowa State, and he doesn't

810
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 3: do much. They lose to Baylor by double digits. Doesn't

811
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 3: do a lot.

812
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: They go down.

813
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: Against Kansas in the first half, doesn't do a lot.

814
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: This is just an Oklahoma team that can find different

815
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: ways to play poorly. And if that's your mo, I

816
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: don't know. I think still Water isn't the place to be.

817
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: So I have this at twenty four to thirteen. Whoa

818
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State? Yeah, Polks take this one.

819
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: I think you could mount a very good argument for

820
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: playing Spencer Ratler in this game over Caleb Williams. Okay,

821
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: just based solely on what happened last year against the

822
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: gym Noles defense and Spencer Ratley. Again, different team, but

823
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler had no trouble back then, and it was

824
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: still a very good Oklahoma State defense. They are measurably better.

825
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: But I'd be curious to see how quick of a

826
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: hook if there is a hook. Lincoln Riley has for

827
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams in this game. I think this is actually

828
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: a very even matchup, and I don't have a great

829
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: sense for who's gonna win. I trust in the Oklahoma

830
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: State defense because they have been one of the few

831
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: trustworthy entities all throughout college football. Sure from start to

832
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: finish that that much is clear. They will show up

833
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: in this game. They will play well in this game.

834
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: But I feel like because it's a rivalry, I feel

835
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: like because Lincoln Riley does have the track record against Gundy,

836
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: I just feel like this is a close game, and

837
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: in a close game, I'd rather grab those points. So

838
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: I hear you. I'm meeting you where you're at. I

839
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: don't think you're wrong. I think it's twenty four to

840
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: twenty one. Somebody wins. I don't know who. Come on,

841
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: give me it. That's we're thirteen weeks into the season.

842
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

843
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know who wins the tie.

844
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: That's such a weasly move on your birthday. I still,

845
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: you know what, I still don't trust Spencer Sanders. That's

846
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: what it comes to, Okay, So pick the Sooners Oklahoma

847
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty one. What the hell? Hey, thank you.

848
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. Let's go.

849
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're not. Apparently you're not taking the pokes

850
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: on your fortieth birthday. You're going against Gundy on your

851
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: fortieth birthday.

852
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: Going against Gondy. It's my line that puts into the universe.

853
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm the man, I'm forty. All right,

854
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: we disagree. Also in that night block on Saturday, a

855
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: couple games here rattle off the Paul Meadow Bowl between

856
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: Clemson and South Carolina. Clemson favored by eleven and a half.

857
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: That one at seven thirty on the SEC network. The

858
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 2: APM Fox game is Notre Dame minus nineteen on the

859
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: road at Stanford. We've also got Texas A and M

860
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: on the road at LSU A and M is favored

861
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: by six and a half. That one seven pm and

862
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: ESPN also seven thirty, ESPN two. We've got Kentucky on

863
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: the road at Louisville. Believe Louillville favored by two and

864
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: a half in the Governor's Cup. Yep. We've also got

865
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: Saturday at ten thirty on ESPN, the late late game

866
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: BYU Minds seven at usc DAN. Your thoughts.

867
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: So I think Clemson is able to win that game.

868
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: I think they're in a nice rhythm. We'll see how

869
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: healthy they are at receiver, but either way, I think

870
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: they should be able to move it against South Carolina,

871
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: who themselves. I mean, it's not like they're going to

872
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: be let down and ignoring a rival rematchup because this

873
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: is as vulnerable as Clemson has been in many, many

874
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: years in this game. But I still think Clemson's able

875
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: to win this game by a couple touchdowns thanks to

876
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: more consistency both on the ground and through the air,

877
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: but especially on the ground. I would take Notre Dame

878
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: minus anything against Stanford, yeah, really really, I mean we're

879
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: talking about three million dollars a win for David Shaw

880
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: at this point, and so I don't know if David Shaw,

881
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: I mean he recruits well that's the thing though, but

882
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: they just don't have it.

883
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 2: This is not a good team. Here's the thing about

884
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: this game. Yeah, Andy definitely wants to score a thousand

885
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: if they can.

886
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. There's a style point and Brian

887
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: Kelly has not been shy about.

888
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: Talking about it. He hasn't and I give him credit

889
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: for it because some coaches are you know, they're not

890
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: willing to talk about it. He's been pretty open from

891
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: start to finish this year, and he needs there a

892
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: unique spot. Yeah, there are any unique spot. I've got

893
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: them winning, I've got them covering. Do not be surprised, though,

894
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: Do not be surprised if after a random first quarter

895
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 2: Stanford is up ten to seven. It's just the way

896
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: this game works, is yeah. Mckeas splashes YEP. Is a weird,

897
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: freaking game. Notre Dame should eventually win and cover. So

898
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm just saying, maybe wait until the

899
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: first quarter to place your bet, because I could see

900
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: Stanford keeping it close for like ten minutes.

901
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: Stanford may have the worst run defense in America, and

902
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: so they might. Kyen Williams whoever, should be able to

903
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: comfortably pace this game eventually. I think I have it

904
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 3: at something like forty five eleven. I don't know, forty

905
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 3: five to fourteen something in that. I have a and

906
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 3: m over LSU.

907
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: I don't love it. I'm going to have you plus

908
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: the points. I hear you, coach os last game. Yeah,

909
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: can't Bowl eligibility. I believe for Bowl eligibility. I can't

910
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: really explain it, but I'm going to go points here.

911
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: I'm going Louisville because in retrospect some of Kentucky's biggest

912
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: wins and performances we downgrade a little bit looking at

913
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 3: you LSU and Florida games. Though I still am a

914
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: believer in Kentucky's offense. I just think Louisville right now

915
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 3: has secretly improved this back half of the season to

916
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: the point where at home, in a rivalry game, they

917
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: can win this game by I don't know, six or

918
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: seven points high scoring affair. I have it like forty

919
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: two to thirty eight, forty two to thirty six, I

920
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: don't know. Somewhere in that, I'm going to go Kentucky ooh,

921
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: and that's going to be on the strength of a

922
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: still solid defense and a really good running game.

923
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: Is Kentucky's defense solid? I think it's solid enough. I

924
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: think it's solid enough to put pressure on Louisville. And

925
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: the problem with Louisville as last year is they're very

926
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: good at shooting themselves in the foot. Malik Cunningham as

927
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: an individual performer, has been superb the last two seasons.

928
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: I don't mean to take anything away from him, but

929
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: they are a mistake prone and I think Kentucky can

930
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: take advantage.

931
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, Malie Cunningham has been popping and Kentucky

932
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: has the current one and first UH success rate pass defense,

933
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: meaning the rate by which quarterbacks have been succeeding against

934
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 3: the Kentucky especially that the Kentucky secondary, which hasn't been amazing,

935
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: has been pretty extraordinary. So I think Malie Cunningham is

936
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: speaking right now. I'm going with the Cardinals. Next game, Oh,

937
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: BYU USC. I have BYU comfortable, so do I.

938
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think I agree. The only game that

939
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: I didn't hear who you picked, I've got Clemson minus

940
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: whatever against Selfie.

941
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I took Clemson. I took Clemson.

942
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think let's lock that one up too.

943
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: WHOA of the week. So Clemson's just full on back

944
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: to you. I don't know if they're full on back,

945
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: but I don't like South Carolina is just not good

946
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: on offense, right, and so I think based on the

947
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: strength of the Clemson defense and the Clemson offense, which

948
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: has been playing pretty well as of late, I'm going

949
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 2: Clemson minus whatever.

950
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: So then we both we both believe Wake wins the

951
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 3: Atlantic and takes on Pitt in the ACC Championship game.

952
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, okay, all right, that's cool. Otherwise

953
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: I think I agree with you on the BYU game.

954
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, US is bad. US is bad at football right now,

955
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: they gave up sixty plus.

956
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: By the way, I love.

957
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: Picking against teams that have premature rivalry games, especially in

958
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve. So like Stanford Cal played last week, right,

959
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: and Stanford loses that game in comfortable fashion. Once you

960
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: lose to your rival and then you have another game,

961
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: oh my god, bet against that team. So like USC

962
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 3: just lost to its rival in embarrassing fashion, and now

963
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: they play against a good team, a good BYU team.

964
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god, pick BYU comfortable. I'm with you. I

965
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: am with you, all right, all right? Can we travel

966
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: back in time?

967
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: Dan buta do budda do buda doo.

968
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: Let's go back to Friday. We go in reverse order.

969
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: We don't know when you're listening to this, right, so

970
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: in order to keep this as fresh as possible, we'll

971
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: go back to Friday. Let's go to high noon Boise

972
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: State at San Diego State. Boise State favored by two

973
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: and a half. Also on Friday, at one thirty Big

974
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: Ten Network. This is the Hero's Trophy game between Iowa

975
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: and Nebraska. Adrian Martinez is out. Before he was ruled out,

976
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: Nebraska was actually favored despite their three and eight record,

977
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: which is a nice little statistical anomaly. We've also got

978
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: at three thirty Cincinnati minus fourteen on the road at

979
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: East Carolina. Not a rivalry, but interesting contest to say

980
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: the minimum. We've got at three thirty the battle Line

981
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: rivalry between Missoo and Arkansas. Arkansas favor by fourteen and

982
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: a half. We've also got North Carolina North Carolina State.

983
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: It's when later in the day at seven pm on ESPN.

984
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: NC State favored by five and a half in that game.

985
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 2: And to close it out, we've got the Apple Cup,

986
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: a very meaningful Apple Cup EPRFS one Washington State now

987
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: a one point road favorite on the road at Washington.

988
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on those games, Daniel.

989
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: I guess I have many. Iowa, Nebraska is fast, it's

990
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: Logan's moothers I believe getting to start for the Huskers,

991
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: and Adrian Martinez is stead. I'm going Iowa here a

992
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: green quarterback throwing into that defense in a rivalry spot.

993
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: I'm going Iowa, even on the road. I just I

994
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 3: cannot believe in Nebraska.

995
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 2: I just can't.

996
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: I can't believe in it, especially if the spread is

997
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 3: going to be relatively close. If you're going to tell

998
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: me that the game is going to be a relatively

999
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: close call, I'm just not going to believe in the Huskers.

1000
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: Which other games you said? NC State North Carolina. I

1001
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 3: have Devin Leary lighting up North Carolina and winning that game.

1002
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: There's a lot on the line Frency State for hopes

1003
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: of getting to the ACC Championship game. I think he

1004
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: has a very good game.

1005
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: In a bit of a shootout.

1006
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a lot of points, but

1007
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: I think ultimately NC State and the way Larry's been

1008
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 3: throwing come out on top at home. What other games

1009
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 3: you mentioned? Arkansas, MAA Zoo. Yeah, I'm on Arkinsaw minus

1010
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: number to get the eight win as am I letdown

1011
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: spot for Mazoo. Yeah, I'm on San Diego State. I

1012
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: mentioned that one because the defense. I'm on Boise State.

1013
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 3: Boise State's of late been playing really really well. They've

1014
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: been covering spreads. They've been emphatic in the way that

1015
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: they've played since that air Force game. I believe both

1016
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: sides of the ball have been performing. I'm going Boise

1017
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: and going Broncos on the road. San Diego State has

1018
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: not been covering, you know, sneaking by un l V.

1019
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 3: I'm just not a believer, so's I'm gonna go as text.

1020
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm with you on Iowa. I'm going Cincinnati. I mentioned Arkansas.

1021
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm on North Carolina, Okay, and I was on North Carolina.

1022
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: I should say when the points was seven, it's come

1023
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: down to five and a half now in favor of

1024
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: NC State. I still think NC State's the better team,

1025
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: but I think potentially a lot of points here and

1026
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna take the points if I can get them.

1027
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: I can see NC State winning this game something like

1028
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 2: forty eight to forty four, So I'm gonna go points.

1029
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: Who are you on in the Apple Cup?

1030
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 3: Oh, Washington State? Absolutely lock of the week? Double lock?

1031
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 3: I guess double barrel.

1032
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, lock of the week.

1033
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: I agree they they bow doublews. I am a man,

1034
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: I am forty. I'm going three locks this week. It

1035
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: didn't work out at all the last time I went

1036
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: three locks last week, right, But this week I feel

1037
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: good about these selections. Here Washington only minus one, a

1038
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: team that's got a ton to play for. I mean,

1039
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: Washington State has a ton to play for. Washington State.

1040
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I mean you Dove is trying to impress

1041
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: whoever the next coaches. I get that, but I just

1042
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 2: feel like the situation here is such that Wazoo. Wazoo

1043
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: is basically the team from varsity Blues at this point.

1044
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: They are just sort of playing for whoever. Yeah, they play.

1045
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: They're all guts, minimal glory, doing their part to try

1046
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: and finish out this season in mid weird circumstances with

1047
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: their head coach getting fired a few weeks back. Yep.

1048
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, give me Wazoo man, lock it up.

1049
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if you have a team that has

1050
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: a heartbeat of a run game, you stand a pretty

1051
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: good chance against this version of Washington, especially now with

1052
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: an interim coach. Washington's coming off of a lost Colorado

1053
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: I believe centered around that's ninety seven yard scoop and score.

1054
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 3: They just Washington finds ways to lose games and Wazoo

1055
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: plays hard. Jake Dickert might get that job, by the way,

1056
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 3: you might get that Wazoo job. So yeah, I'm in

1057
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: on the Koops, especially with something to play for, giving

1058
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 3: themselves a shot should things break their way, and the

1059
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 3: rest of the division, Yeah, give me the Kougs comfort.

1060
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 3: I think actually like by ten.

1061
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 2: And finally, my favorite rivalry is we travel back in

1062
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: Time once more. Dan Oh Thursday seven point thirty on ESPN,

1063
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving. Yes, Ole Miss on the road at Mississippi

1064
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: State Mississippi State minus one, Dan, who you got.

1065
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: Back and forth in this one. I'm taking the home team.

1066
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: I'm playing Mississippi State. Ole Miss is inability to get

1067
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 3: off the field on defense against a Mike Leach offense.

1068
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 3: That that's where they really drain you, where they find

1069
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 3: that crossing route, where they find that little hits, where

1070
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: they find that little swing. Mississippi State of late has

1071
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 3: been playing pretty well, and ole Miss is good too,

1072
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: like Ole Miss a good team. These are two good

1073
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 3: teams playing so on the margins the home team with

1074
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: and ole Miss actually gets after the pass, so they're

1075
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: sort of a feast or famine team. Right when they blitz,

1076
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: they're either sacking you or giving up a huge play.

1077
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: And I think that specific matchup, whereas where I think

1078
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: Will Rogers is so accurate and so quick getting the

1079
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: ball out, I think I think that can that can

1080
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: spell for some sort of crazy game turning situation. So

1081
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna be electric in Starkville. I'm going with the

1082
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: home team, favored by a point. I think they eke

1083
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: this one out in an always enthusiastic, emotional rivalry game.

1084
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch it.

1085
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: I'm on Old Miss here. I'm almost they can get

1086
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: the ten wins, which is an incredible year. It's gonna

1087
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: be Matt Corral's last game. He already Citi's going pro.

1088
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: I just got a lot to play for here, got

1089
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: a lot to play for, and I think a singular

1090
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: performance for Matt Corral here will lift them to victory.

1091
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: But I expect a fun game on Thanksgiving night. I

1092
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: think this is gonna be a fun game. I think

1093
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: a lot of points here in Starkville. You know, we

1094
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: know it'll be a very, very electric atmosphere. I'm excited

1095
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: for the Egg Bowl. But I'm going Old Miss. So,

1096
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: I mean behind what behind? Like? What what is the

1097
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: matchup that you think turns this? What I like about

1098
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: Ole Miss is despite everyone talking about the offense, the

1099
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: defense has actually been Okay. Yeah, it's improved over the

1100
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 2: course of the year. It has actually been Okay. They're

1101
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: better against the pass than the run, which should help

1102
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: them against a Mike Leach offense. It's still not a

1103
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: great defense, don't get me wrong by any stretch, But

1104
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: I just feel like there will be a point in

1105
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: this game where it just evolves into a shootout and

1106
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: true rivalry fashion, where everything we do about these teams

1107
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: goes out the window. And I like old Missuge chances

1108
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: better in a shootout, all right, and.

1109
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 3: Ole Miss, by the way, I'm just looking diving into

1110
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: the numbers as we speak, because I really do think

1111
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: this is it's on the margins, right, Mississippi State by

1112
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: playing really solid, disguising zone defense, right that the quarterback

1113
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: has to sit back because if you sit in man,

1114
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: Michae Leach is going to find that matchup. Mississippi State

1115
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: has good wide receivers, they have an accurate quarterback.

1116
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: Ole Miss.

1117
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: The percentage of passes playing man coverage is seventeen percent.

1118
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: The national average is thirty four percent. So Ole Miss

1119
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: is thrilled to sit and play zone and prevent those

1120
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: bigger plays, which they do do. Mississippi State is not

1121
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: a big play team. So I think it's just gonna

1122
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: it's gonna come down to third and eight's and whether

1123
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: or not Mississippi State's can be able to execute because

1124
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: ole Miss forces that it forces execution. Really good teams

1125
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 3: beat ole Miss. Flawed teams loose to ole Miss, And

1126
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: so this one, I just think it's it's gonna.

1127
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: Be a great game. I can't wait. I am excited.

1128
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: The only other game here that I have unless I

1129
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: missed anything, Dan.

1130
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1131
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: It is a big one. Oh, don't.

1132
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: The Old Oaken Bucket.

1133
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: It's the big ten d of the week, presented by

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1135
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: point thirty, it's on FS one. Of course, it is

1136
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: Indiana against in state rival Perdue. Purdue is favored by

1137
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: fifteen at time of recording here per Draft King's Sports book.

1138
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: What do you know about the actual Old Oaken bucket? Dan,

1139
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: very little? You told me It was a Civil War bucket,

1140
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: civil War bucket. They found it on an Indiana farm.

1141
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: But it's twelve inches tall, six pounds. One of the

1142
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: greatest trophies in all of sports. If it is not

1143
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: the essence of college football that we award a six

1144
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: pound bucket to the winner. Yes, sir gosh, I don't

1145
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: know what is Indiana's lost seven in a row. I

1146
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: think almost assuredly, this will be number eight. The question

1147
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: is can they cover the fifteen point spread? Do you

1148
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 2: have a lean here? Yeah?

1149
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: I think Purdue wins this game going away. There's a

1150
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: reason why Purdue is a fifteen point favorite. They're playing

1151
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: in West Lafayette.

1152
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: Correct, in West Lafayette.

1153
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: Yep, it's in West Lafayette. Purdue has covered three or

1154
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: four and and I believe Indiana has only covered once

1155
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 3: this season, and that was against the elitist of losers, Maryland.

1156
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: So no, Maryland.

1157
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 3: The terms aren't lining up on the other side of

1158
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 3: the field, So give me Purdue comfortably in this one.

1159
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what the over under is, but I

1160
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: think I don't know. Perdue's been a little bit inconsistent

1161
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 3: in covering the over, so I think the move here

1162
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: is Perdue minus the points in what is usually at

1163
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: least an interesting game, I think it's just less so

1164
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: this year with how inept Indiana's offense.

1165
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you. Fall in two. Yeah,

1166
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: by the way, Perdue getting to eight wins. Yeah, going

1167
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: to a decent bowl game, definitely, maybe against an SEC team.

1168
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? That's actually quite interesting.

1169
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: A win over a then top ten team, which then

1170
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: doesn't mean much, but still a really impressive win against

1171
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 3: Michigan State, beating Nebraska on the road. It's been a

1172
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 3: successful season for Illinois or excuse me for Perdue.

1173
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Illinois game right now. Yeah, it

1174
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: has absolutely And I especially remember doing the Purdue preview

1175
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: way back when in July.

1176
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 3: Whenever we did that, I was down. I was down

1177
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: on the Boilers.

1178
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 2: We both were, you know, all the preview publications were

1179
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: down on the Boilers as well. And clearly it's been

1180
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: a really successful campaign for Jeff bram yep. Don't forget

1181
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Speaker 3: Okay, few things before we go, because we got through

1193
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: these pretty quickly, I mean for anyway, right, Yeah, we're

1194
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: a little over an hour right now. HM, all right,

1195
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 3: so we have a captive audience. Okay, the following teams

1196
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: with a win, because they're all real close.

1197
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: I don't have that sound available to me at this moment.

1198
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 3: Two Bowl eligibility ball State San Jose, State, South Alabama,

1199
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 3: Florida or Florida State. Like we mentioned, Doo Rutgers in

1200
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: Maryland are playing for a bowl. Berth, North Texas, though

1201
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: they do have UTSA. Charlotte is playing against Old Dominion,

1202
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 3: both playing for a Bowl Berth, Troy, Hawaii, Virginia Tech, Tulsa, LSU,

1203
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 3: Middle Tennessee or FAU playing each other, West Virginia, Syracuse

1204
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 3: and Memphis all playing this final weekend for a bowl bid,

1205
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: which is great, you know, it's it's a starting point,

1206
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 3: hopefully for a lot of these teams who are crawling

1207
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: back to becoming a bowl team or maintaining bowl eligibility whatever,

1208
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 3: but hopeful for that. And also I just want to

1209
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 3: know what your Thanksgiving plans are and if you have

1210
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 3: any food thoughts, holiday thoughts. Yeah, because this is this

1211
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: is a holiday that is intertwined with football.

1212
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: Going to be having some folks over here, just whever,

1213
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: whoever swings on by. So it'll be a very active

1214
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: day here. Mm hmm. Not doing anything too crazy, not

1215
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: doing anything Rubinstein esque with our meal. It's going to

1216
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: be a very traditional Thanksgiving Day meal. Is there a

1217
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: turkey being roasted? Is it sort of standard? Now? There

1218
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: will be a roasted turkey. Okay, a roasted turkey in

1219
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: my oven? Mm hmmm. In addition to mash, are you

1220
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: doing the roasting?

1221
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: Uh?

1222
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: It will be a team effort. A dry Brian, A

1223
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 2: wet Brian, no Brian. I have absolutely no idea Daniel. Question.

1224
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 3: By the way, we're running short on time. By the

1225
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 3: you know what you need to need what you need

1226
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: time wise. If you're brining the dry Brian, is the

1227
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 3: move the dry brine? I don't even absolutely move over

1228
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 3: the wet Brian.

1229
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: Do not even know what that means?

1230
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: Dry?

1231
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: Okay, wet Brian is you're dunking the bird in a

1232
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: bath of water in seasoning, and so it's like, oh,

1233
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna become juicy.

1234
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.

1235
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: The dry brine is you pat the bird down with

1236
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: the seasoning, put it in the fridge, I believe, uncovered.

1237
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 3: So the skin gets really dry, right, you get all

1238
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 3: that moist You want the moisture out, and then the

1239
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: seasoning brings out the natural juices when you roast it.

1240
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: It's penetrative. Is that a word? Its the seasoning.

1241
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 3: So the dry brine, in my experience, makes the best

1242
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: bird in my experience. So do you just look it

1243
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 3: up and decide for yourself. We are going over to

1244
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 3: Jody's aunt and uncle's house. There's some family in town.

1245
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 3: And I think it's sort of a very informal drop

1246
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 3: by make yourself a plate. I don't think it's a

1247
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: sit down, long table, yeah, kind of official thing. It's

1248
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 3: there's just gonna be a bunch of food out come

1249
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 3: by make a plate. Watch some football because there's a

1250
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 3: bunch of little kids involved. You know, you have some

1251
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: that are like twelve, thirteen, fourteen fifty. You have some

1252
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 3: who are like six seven. I've got a two and

1253
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 3: a half year old and a nine month old. Brother

1254
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: in law has an eight month old. Like there's just

1255
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 3: there are various ages, so it was like it would

1256
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 3: be too hard to corral. I am making my broccoli

1257
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 3: cast role, which is terrific, terrific, excuse me, broccoli and eggs, cheese,

1258
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: and you know, the crispy onions. It's my favorite thing

1259
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: in the world. I'm gonna make some meatballs. I was

1260
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 3: told to bring kind of grazing foods, so it's not

1261
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: like a barbecue or a sweet meatball. I'm making just

1262
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: a homemade marin aara sauce and homemade meatballs, so I'll

1263
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: do that. I'm gonna make some of my chocolate chip cookies,

1264
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 3: which are excellent, just have them, don't have them. I

1265
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: don't care, And I don't know what else is going

1266
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: to be there. I honestly have no idea. That's what

1267
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm contributing. I think my mother in law's making some

1268
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 3: sweet potatoes, which I always enjoy, but I'm I don't

1269
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,959
Speaker 3: trust that the turkey is going to be excellent because

1270
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 3: making good turkey is is really difficult. So I'm probably

1271
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 3: gonna focus on sides more than anything, and I'll be

1272
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 3: pleasantly surprised. If there's a good turkey, I don't know.

1273
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: If it's a fried, a smoked, a roasted, I have

1274
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 3: no clue, but I'm looking forward to it all the same.

1275
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure there will be pumpkin pie. So that's that's

1276
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 3: my direction.

1277
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: Well, look, a lot of folks are going to be

1278
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: listening to this show on the way to Thanksgiving, whether

1279
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: you're popping in the burden, flying across the country, whether

1280
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: you're listening to it on Thursday morning on the way

1281
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 2: to Grandma's house. I don't know wherever you may be.

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Speaker 2: We hope this Thanksgiving is a safe and happy one

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Speaker 2: for you. Hope your food situation treats you well. Please

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Speaker 2: don't forget to follow us on social media and tweet

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Speaker 2: us and send us DMS and messages and let us

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Speaker 2: know all about your meal. Not so much because I care,

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Speaker 2: but Dan definitely no slide into ties dms for any reason.

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Speaker 2: Dan cares about your food situation. Legitimately cares about your

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Speaker 2: food situation. We'll be talking about it in our verbal

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Speaker 2: or discord, which again you can get asks us to

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Speaker 2: if you're going out to Verballers dot com. But if not,

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Speaker 2: please do send us a line call the reverbline at

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Speaker 2: four weight verbal wine. Let us know, if nothing else,

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Speaker 2: how your food situation is going this Thanksgiving. We hope

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Speaker 2: all is well. Do we have a nickname? Do we

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Speaker 2: have a nickname? After all of that? For Saturday Surprise party?

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Speaker 2: Saturday Surprise party? Saturday? Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna be having a surprise party in the locker

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Speaker 3: room afterwards. They were not expecting to be thrilled. Whether

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Speaker 3: it's Auburn, whether it's Michigan, whether it's I mean, Oklahoma

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Speaker 3: State's a favorite. So that's not the answer there. But

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Speaker 3: somebody is going to be a gigantic underdog just because

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Speaker 3: that has been the tenor of the back half of

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Speaker 3: the season, and win the game outright and have a

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Speaker 3: surprise party to finish out the twenty twenty one regular

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Speaker 3: season in electric fashion. Let's say, how about that?

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Speaker 2: I like it? All right? Don't forget if you are

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Speaker 2: out and about this Saturday college Football Blitz. We've been

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Speaker 2: telling you about it all year. It's the red Zone

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Speaker 2: channel for college football. Listen to our good friend speedy

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Speaker 2: Stephen Hartzel as he walks you through all the top

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Speaker 2: twenty five action it's Saturday. It starts at noon. You

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Speaker 2: can listen on ESPN Radio XM channel eighty four at

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Speaker 2: of course, the Varsity Network app. You get live Whip

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Speaker 2: Brown coverage for every game again in the top twenty

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Speaker 2: five as called by home team announcers, which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: You get the on the ground in the stadium feel

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Speaker 2: for all the scoring as it happens. The best called

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Speaker 2: by the hometown radio crew is just three commercial breaks

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Speaker 2: every hour, which means fifty six minutes of live play

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Speaker 2: by play. Again, that's the college football Blitz.

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Speaker 3: You're out and about, you're doing things. You just had

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Speaker 3: to go buy what drywall screws? You're out, you're doing,

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Speaker 3: you're fixing, You're doing stuff. You gotta stay abreast sometimes

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Speaker 3: if duty calls, as a homeowner, as a husband, as

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Speaker 3: a father, as a grandson, whatever, you got stuff to do,

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Speaker 3: you gotta listen to Stephen Harts and let him guide

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Speaker 3: you through those gaps.

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Speaker 2: In your watching day. Daniel, enjoy your Thanksgiving, be safe too.

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Speaker 2: To all y'all out there. Don't forget going out to

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Speaker 2: our website soliverble dot com. Check out all of our episodes.

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Speaker 2: Get yourself ready for college football Rivalry week. As ever,

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Speaker 2: we will be online. Don't forget to call the reverbland

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Speaker 2: at four eight verbal one, and we are going to

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Speaker 2: be doing a Q and a show on Black Friday.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna leave you in the lurch. Yeah, how about that.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back. We'll be doing a Q and a

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Speaker 2: show on Friday, so bring it right back here on

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Speaker 2: Friday morning. We'll answer some of your college football questions.

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Speaker 2: We're going to do an extended version that the folks

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Speaker 2: on the Patreon can listen to on Thursday, but then

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Speaker 2: it will be part of that available on Friday as well. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: we will be back recapping all the action that was

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Speaker 2: right and early on Sunday morning. In the meantime, for that,

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Speaker 2: go there my good friend Dan Rubenstein for myself, Tie

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Speaker 2: Hilton and Brand, have a safe have a healthy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you all soon. In the meantime, Stay solid, peace.

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Speaker 1: Hold I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: On for.

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Speaker 1: Sorte sortey. Look, I'm forty. I'm forty. That's so funny.

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Speaker 1: Last time I heard that, I laughed so hard I

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Speaker 1: fell off my dinosaur.

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Speaker 3: H