WEBVTT - Warriors Deep Dive: Is LeBron joining, Anthony Davis trade takes, Yaxel's upside, building w/ Steph 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:16.960 The volume. All right, we'll goo to hoops tonight. You're 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:17.560 at the volume. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.280 We are at the Serious XM studios at the Win 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.200 in Las Vegas, and we have a very special guest today, 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:25.639 my good friend Sam is fondi Ari, my go to 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:27.080 guy for all things Warriors. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:28.400 Sam. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.560 Earlier today we heard from Rich Paul that the Lebron 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.480 saga is fun for the fans as it drags out. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.080 And I'm in the content space and it was fun 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:41.159 for like a week or two. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:43.839 I'm no longer having fun. I'm ready to know what's 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:44.440 going to happen. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.519 So, as our representative of the Warriors fan base for 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.640 hoops tonight, how are you feeling about this whole saga? 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.600 How are Warriors fans feeling? Where are you at with 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:55.600 the Lebron James thing? 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.640 So, if I was to rank the possible scenarios, One, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.440 you acquire the players you actually want to acquire. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.160 Two you have hope. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.160 That you're gonna acquire the players you want to acquire. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.959 Three you don't get them, and you're in the sunken 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.199 place and everything is miserable. So the way I'm looking 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.360 at it, given that the Warriors have, you know, kind 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.160 of strikeed out more often than not, like the last 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.760 four years. Like I know, they got Jimmy, but outside 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.520 of Jimmy, it's been a lot of that's too many picks. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.319 Oh they don't want to trade them here. Oh, we 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.680 can't afford them the XYZ. I'm looking at it through 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.600 the lens of Look, we haven't heard no yet. So 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:38.480 as long as I haven't heard a no, I'm in 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.240 an okay place. I can't speak for everyone, but I 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:42.039 can't speak for me. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.720 You know, It's interesting because I would argue the Warriors 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:50.040 probably need Lebron more than all of these other teams 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:55.960 in the sense that like Cleveland was a conference finalist, Wiggans, Bam, Giannis, 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.080 Davion Mitchell, it's a pretty strong foundation in Miami. Regardless 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.760 of what happens, Minnesota's gonna be fine. I mean, obviously 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.040 they need a power forward, but Denver's going to be fine. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.679 Golden State's in this weird predicament where if they pull 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.679 off something and we're gonna talk about Anthony Davis in 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.639 a minute, but if they pull off something involving Lebron 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.200 plus another player, it's the difference between them as currently constructed, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:17.840 and we're gonna get into the Ross. So there's exciting things. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.720 They acts looks great in his first couple of Summer 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.400 League games, but they're looking at being a playing team 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.000 if they don't pull something like this off. But at 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.080 the same time, I also don't necessarily think they have 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.960 another great option in the sense that other than like 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.880 making an all in trade around just Steph versus making 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.239 an all in trade around Steph and Lebron. There's a 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.520 lot at stake here, do you guys feel that? 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.360 Yes, I'm one hundred percent on the same page as you. 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:48.840 Hear like, when you're describing those teams, you're leaving out 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.440 kind of the obvious point, which is the Warriors have 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.760 the potential to be a incredibly depressing story for the 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.959 end of Steph's career. Look, if you told me three 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.240 years ago they were going to try to acquire Lebron, 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.560 I would say, I'm good, there's got to be a 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.359 different route to go. It's actually not a disrespect thing. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.800 I just think like the rivalry is cool and let's 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.360 keep it separate that sort of thing. Then the Olympics 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.600 happened in twenty twenty four, which I think everyone will 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.120 agree was awesome. It was fun to watch, and then 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.359 you have kind of the reality of where we're out 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.320 with the Warriors, which is Jimian Butler got injured, the 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:32.680 roster is subpar, they don't really have a lot of options, 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.080 and STEP's thirty eight years old. He'll be thirty nine 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.320 next season. So when I look at it through all 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.720 those lens, even taking like the romanticism of how fun 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.360 it would be for the two of them to play together, 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.840 you're just not going to get an opportunity to add 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.320 an All Star caliber player. And let's be clear, Lebron 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.880 is still an All Star caliber player. I could argue 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.320 he's better, but at worst, he's an All Star caliber player. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.760 You do not get the opportunity to add a player 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.120 of that caliber for the mid level of exception or below. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.840 Like we're seeing this around the league. The Celtics just 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.720 traded Jalen Brown, not because he was bad, but because 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.480 he's too expensive. Yeah, and we're seeing more and more 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.040 of that around the league, where it's about value, it's 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:21.120 about your ability to you know, control contracts and maneuver. Dude, Lebron, 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.039 I don't care that Lebron's forty one. Lebron willing to 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.880 take between three and fifteen million a year is like 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:32.000 a god sent team building wide, team building wise, Sorry, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.680 you gotta go for it. And then just to take 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.640 it back to my first point, bro, if he says 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.200 no and they do nothing, and we go into next 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.160 season with this idea that Jimmy's going to be back 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.719 sometime in January, who knows what that looks like. Thirty 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.600 seven year old off an acl tear with the roster 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:58.400 of Okay players asking Stephan Curry at his age to 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.919 average thirty to keep them in games. Like, I just 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.919 he's gonna get hurt. I don't want to see his 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:09.040 career end like that. Like I don't know that adding 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.680 Lebron and let's just say Anthony Davis makes them a contender. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.080 I do know it puts them in the mix and 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.760 makes the end of his career far less depressing than 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:18.440 the opposite. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.200 And it puts them within striking distance, especially if they 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.719 have the tools to make another deal, to potentially be 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.400 in a situation in February where they feel comfortable making 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.039 that kind of move. I want to zoom in on 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.080 like the fan piece of this first second el because 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:36.159 like you and I met on Twitter, we met being 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.280 fans of our teams, of our players. You are a 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.960 staunch defender of Steph Curry, and I have been known 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.160 as a person who got into the sport of basketball 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:47.960 literally because. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:48.360 Of Lebron James. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:52.600 I'm a huge Lebron James fan, and I don't want 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:57.039 to play fan police. I hate telling people how to 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.080 be fans, and if there are people that get a 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:00.800 sick feeling in their I'll make got the idea of 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.680 Lebron and Steph playing together. I'm not going to tell 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:06.200 them they're wrong. But like as the years have gone by, 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.880 I've just grown to love and appreciate and respect Steph 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:11.760 so much to the point where he's literally become my 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.560 second favorite player behind Lebron. And I know that you 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.719 have a great deal of respect for Lebron as well. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.599 The idea of Lebron and Steph playing together was quite 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.440 literally never a negative feeling for me at all. It 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.880 was immediately like this is awesome, Like I just think 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.480 these are the two greatest competitors of our era. Both 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.240 of them are completely stamped. They have four championships each. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.800 They don't have anything else to prove at this point. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.680 It's just their basketball games fit fantastically. Well, I think 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.400 the two of them just want to win together. I 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.200 just I only experienced like positive feelings about the two 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.840 of them playing together. Did you have any hesitancy at 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.600 all about the partnership at this point? 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.960 No, Like being honest with you, would I've had hesitancy 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.320 two years ago, four years ago the answer would be different, Yes, 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.520 of course. But I'm like looking at through a real lens, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.760 which the Olympics, honestly was a big thing for me. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.120 Watching the two them together, it made me. It made 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.000 it easier for me to reframe this as just like, look, dude, 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.239 if they play together at the end of their career, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.720 it does not change anything that's happened before. You need 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.960 to stop looking at it through the nineties lens, and 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.800 you stop giving credence to like I'm not going to 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.520 name players or ex players, like, oh, it's not the 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:22.840 way we. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:23.360 Used to do things. 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.760 Well, you know, back in the day, you didn't have 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.800 twenty five year careers. It's hard to stay one place 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.640 for twenty five years. So the way I look at 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.320 it is this would be fun for the end of 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:37.760 their career, And that really only came to me through 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.440 the lens of they're old man. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.160 Yeah, they's been a long time. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.240 You know, Like, I don't know if you feel this way. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:45.640 I don't know how much you're into the World Cup 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.480 right now, but you're watching the World Cup, you see 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:53.040 like rinaldo you see Messi? These guys are past their prime. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.120 Messi is still more capable than maybe Ronaldo's at this point. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.400 They've moved how many clubs, they are at different stages, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.040 and there's a certain level of who cares about the narrative, 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.320 who cares about the rivalry? This is their last tournament 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.760 they're gonna play at this point, so let's just appreciate 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.320 it because they're two of the best who've ever done it, 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.600 and it's it's gonna be fun and you're gonna enjoy it. 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.320 You're gonna enjoy it far more than the other side, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.920 where they're like proudly retire versus play with each other. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.360 And then we're sitting here with what ifs, which ironically 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.360 is kind of how people look at Michael Jordan's career 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:29.280 in certain ways, and like, I love Jordan, I'm a 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.880 Jordan guy, but like a lot of mystique is tied 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.160 to the fact that he retired before he wanted to, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.640 And there's a lot of what happened if he kept going, 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:42.000 what happened if this happened. So I've evolved on this view. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.520 I don't I don't have the right word for it 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:48.360 is change whatever. I'm into it because look, man, the 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.280 alternative of them retiring or like having this crappy team 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.400 where they win thirty one games like that sucks. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:55.320 Yeah, that's awesome. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:55.760 Fun with it? 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.560 Yeah, I think to me, the point you're making about 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.440 the World Cup is the interesting one to me because 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.400 essentially I just am enjoying watching these guys. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:05.120 That's the key. 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:09.080 And like, I like watching Steph play in that play 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.040 in game, watching Lebron get to be the primary ball 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.200 handler for a playoff series again, like the fact that 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.480 I was watching like a big, huge Game six on 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.719 the road in Houston. Lebron's gonna be the primary ball 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.680 handler in the year twenty twenty six. Like you don't 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.720 think that was fun for me as a fan to watch? 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.760 And I actually think they're in this unique situation where 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.600 they kind of need each other in the sense that 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:29.920 Steph is stuck in this situation. 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:31.360 We're going to talk about the Warriors in a. 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.240 Minute, he's stuck in this situation where the team's just 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.959 flat out not good enough. And then with Lebron, as 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:41.080 you look at the options, I'm not excited about the 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.880 idea of watching him play the Ruey Hatcher Mura role 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.120 for Donovan Mitchell and James Harden. I'm not excited about 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.839 him doing that for Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball. I'm 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.960 not excited about him in this weird, janky spacing situation 0:09:54.080 --> 0:10:00.160 with Jiannison. Bam Like, this specific situation that Go and 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:04.720 State presents is an opportunity for both of them to 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.480 increase their chances of competing for a title, but also 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:13.120 to play in a style that reminds us of why 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.120 both of them were great. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.120 Yeah, they get to do it their way, And I 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.000 think that's that's actually a great point too, because look 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.240 like this is true of Lebron, but this gonna be 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.920 true of Stephan a year or two. Steph can chase 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.640 a title as like a shooter off the bench for 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.800 five more years of you, he can. He could play 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.080 the Ray Allen in the Miami Heat role if he 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.960 wants to. But is that satisfying to me as a fan? No? Like, 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.160 only in so much as like he's my favorite player 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.800 and he means something to Warrior fans. But what you 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.160 really want to see is them have the ability to 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:49.400 compete with the best in a role that you know 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.400 it's suited for them. And so I agree with you 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.840 that way, Like if you look at the basketball situations, 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:59.040 there are situations that are easier for Lebron. I don't 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.400 think there's any other, say, situation that allows him to 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:07.240 play the role he wants to play while also not 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:12.240 demanding him to play the role of hero and savior 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.920 twenty four to seven, which like physically is probably not 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.360 realistic for a guy in his age range, probably for 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.360 either of them, Yeah, exactly, And like that's that's kind 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.280 of the fun of it, which is like they're the 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.680 protagonists of the team, they're the necessary engine of the team. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.480 But the way that the Warriors play also allows them to, 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.520 I don't want to say take games off, but like 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.120 kind of play in the flow a little more, whereas 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.760 like in Minnesota to your point, and you know, I'm 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.200 just gonna use the Amn example. It's gonna be ant LaMelo, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.400 and it's it's kind of gonna be a different version 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.439 of what you saw last year. With uh Luca and 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.959 Austin Reeves and him having to be like the gap filler, 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.240 playing like a super charge Seawn Mariyan role, like with 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:54.280 a little more upside. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.480 Yeah, it's I'd include Philly in this list too, where 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.960 it's like I think there's I think there are basketball 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.760 situations for every player that where they become almost a 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:09.080 force multiplier versus something where there's a diminishing return. And 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.280 I think, like, do I think Lebron can fill gaps 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.440 and do all these little things to help a basketball team. Yes, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.640 but I think you could do that anywhere. Like rebounding, defending, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.800 making plays off of advantage like that exists in every 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.079 single basketball situation. You're gonna have an opportunity where you're 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.280 attacking a close out or you're playing on a four 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.840 on three like that exists everywhere. Golden State has the 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.679 unique situation of actually having an offense built around having 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.480 bigger players that have the basketball for their split cuts 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.920 and for their five out action where they're operating with 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.840 the dribble handoffs out at the elbow extended. And so 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.960 that's a specific situation where with all the off ball 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.600 movement whirling around, it takes advantage of Lebron being a 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.360 threat to score and pass out of those spots on 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.000 the floor. And we literally saw France get beat Steph 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:54.520 hit the shots. But it was a two man game. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:59.480 It was Stephan Lebron attacking Gershon Yabuseli with inverted screens 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.960 and regulars greens with the two of them and just 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.280 getting open shot after open shot because you have this 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.760 incredible shooter and this incredible power forward that you can't 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.920 switch the action with. And I think there's a lot 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:10.360 naturally fitting there. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:10.520 Now. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.199 I want to I want to quick describe what I 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.360 think is going on here, and then I want you 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.800 to tell me if you think it's a fair characterization 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:26.520 from your perspective. I think Lebron knows deep down the 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:32.240 basketball situation he wants. He knows what playing in Philly 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.280 will look like. He knows what playing in Cleveland will 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.520 look like. He knows a playing in Miami will look 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.760 like Denver, Golden State, so on and so forth, And 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:40.960 I think he knows deep down. 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:41.719 I mean, he said it. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.240 I mean on the day of the Lakers report, his 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.080 podcast released a clip talking about how playing with the 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.520 TSA was like the most fun he's had in years 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.920 playing basketball, So I think deep down he knows playing 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.120 with Golden State would be a blast. I think, and 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.240 you and I've talked about this in the last few days. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.120 I think that Lebron is waiting for one of these 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:05.320 teams to make a move to bolster whatever he thinks 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.679 that situation is. Golden State did make a move for Jimmy, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.640 and it's worth mentioning that they put a first round 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.760 pick on the table to get Jimmy Butler. That is 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.880 worth mentioning and at least giving them some credit for. 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.160 But there have been multiple opportunities over the past. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.640 After he burnt the house down. 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.400 After he burnt the house down, after it went very 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:27.480 far south. Over the course of the years, there have 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.240 been lots of opportunities, Like they missed on ogn Andobi 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.720 Ognoby led his team to a championship, didn't lead, but 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.400 was a key factor in the championship. Team they passed 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.720 on Pascal Siakam literally was one win away from a 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.920 championship and might have gotten Finals MVP depending on how 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:41.240 the rest of that Game seven would have gone if 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.080 Indiana won. And I'd even argue like the last year 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:46.960 and a half, like not making a move on like 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.320 a Trey Murphy not making a move that's a bigger 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:53.040 splash yer move. Do you think that one of the 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:57.720 potential hang ups here is potentially Lebron's concern that Golden 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.080 State has this incredible control over their draft future, But 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.680 they might be they might hesitate when it comes to 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.880 pushing their chips in around Lebron stuff. 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Now, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.200 if you listen to the Warriors talk and there's always 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.760 kind of like read in between the lines, my general 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.440 impression has been that those two players have also been 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.080 aligned with the front office more often than not doing 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.280 the whole Oh, we'd rather make the bigger swing for 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.439 a Giannis like and maybe they're being upsold by the 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.359 front office. Ye, maybe that's the thing, but like the 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.640 reality is, like it's not like those guys have got 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.239 into like a pissing match at the front office and 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.880 like walked out the door. So you can't like say 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.760 they're not culpable in some capacity. But yeah, I think 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.560 that's part of it. I do. I think taking back 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.600 to your Ridge, no point. Look, if Lebron's signing for 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.440 less than the max, this isn't about cap space. Yeah, 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.439 so why hasn't he signed yet. 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:10.800 I don't buy. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.960 Rich Paul saying he's going through a process and he 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.840 knows what he wants to do. This is the most 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:20.600 calculated player of all time. I think they're waiting for something, 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.000 and it could be like the most obvious thing would 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.240 be like waiting for a trade to prove that the 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.679 roster they're going to matches their expectations, because you're dealing 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.879 with parties they haven't worked with in the future in 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.600 the past, Like, no matter how much he likes as 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.280 Steph and A Draymond, he hasn't worked with the Lakes. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.879 He doesn't work in Mike Dunleavy the way. Maybe he 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:44.280 worked with pat Riley or dang, who is it Dave 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.199 Griffin in the past in those stops right, Like, so 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.320 maybe it's that, or maybe it's something else, I'm not sure, 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.080 but like, I agree with your initial point, which is 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.040 this is being dragged out for a reason, and the 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.240 reasons not money, because we know it's not money. He's 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.720 not like, he's not waiting for someone to clear cap space. 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.240 He's waiting for someone to do something and we're just 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:07.320 waiting to see what it is. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:12.439 Yeah, and that's where I think unless he's literally just 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.879 playing with us in the sense that he's dragging this 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.679 out for fun, to make a story. And by the way, 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.680 as against possible, it's possible that that's at least part 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:23.360 of it. Sure, but I I so, let's say, for instance, 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:27.720 that he is thinking, okay, Golden State, but if they 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.840 get a guy like Anthony Davis, how would you feel 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.199 about the risk for the Warriors in potentially making an 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:41.040 Anthony Davis deal but not being one hundred percent sure 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.439 that Lebron's gonna come, Because I would argue if Lebron 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.879 was like, hey, because we talked about this in the 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.359 last couple days, if Lebron's like, I'm going to Golden 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.360 State deep down, like deep down he's like, that's where 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.920 I want to play, then he should know that they 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.240 probably need a d and another move because this is 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.199 a team that's a little thin on wing depth, that 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.119