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Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? I'm James Co. You'll listening to

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. We're back and doing it

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Speaker 1: live every single week. I'm James Co. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: around the horn. MG in the house, Marcus Grant, the

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Speaker 1: of Famer himself, Michael Fabriano. Do you guys see a

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Speaker 1: Game of Thrones last night? I did not awesome? I

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Speaker 1: down to. James cos is soft and he gets to it.

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Speaker 1: how you know it's good? Yeah, your heart strings? Like man.

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Speaker 1: After the Red Wedding, I said, nope, I'm out. It's

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Speaker 1: a spoiler on this On this past episode, somebody dies,

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Speaker 1: just saying something. However, spoilers it's hard very popular thro

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Speaker 1: for Game of Thrones. That's that's not how you get

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Speaker 1: podcast listeners, folks. Hey, we didn't dive into anything specific. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: all rightn we talk What else are we talking here?

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we're gonna be talking fantasy football, Markus Grant?

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Speaker 1: What else? What else you watching on television? Listen to

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Speaker 1: Throw that out there? Alright? Alright, well, well, let's tweets

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Speaker 1: rolland let's talk about the top headlines for today. Davante

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Speaker 1: Parker had foot surgery last Friday. He's gone for June July.

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Speaker 1: last year. Alright, so given the injury history, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess, where do you draft this guy? Because I

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Speaker 1: But where do you draft the guy? And how comfortable

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Speaker 1: Let's say he's healthy, so you go before round ten. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: In fact, there's gonna be a column up on NFL

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of opportunities out there for Jarvis Landry,

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Speaker 1: you know, roster spots in fantasy football are valuable, man,

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones had a very similar procedure done in last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, uh, it makes it makes me nervous. You know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to drop Hide down a peg

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Speaker 1: I think I think before all of these retirement announcements,

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Speaker 1: I think Carlos Hide was a solid third round selection.

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Speaker 1: I can't see him being a third round selection now.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think what you're gonna see a lot

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Speaker 1: from him is, yeah, he may he may line up why,

425
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Speaker 1: but I don't think they're gonna expect him to be

426
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Speaker 1: that guy who runs the entire route train. I mean,

427
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Speaker 1: maybe he can, and maybe he will be, but I

428
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Speaker 1: think because of his size, they won't ask him to

429
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Speaker 1: do a lot of that. And I think what you'll

430
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Speaker 1: see from him is getting a lot of those kind

431
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Speaker 1: of extended handoffs. You know, he'll be to borrow on

432
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Speaker 1: Elliott Harrison phrase running the one yard in and thenne

433
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Speaker 1: yard outs. I mean, it'll be a lot of those

434
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Speaker 1: short throws where you know, I think you have a

435
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Speaker 1: very good year. I think he can yet. I think

436
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Speaker 1: he can score you know, eleven touchdowns this year because

437
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: he'll get a lot of those short throws. Don't expect

438
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Speaker 1: him to be a yardage monster. I think he'll be

439
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Speaker 1: a great guy for PPR. But I think he's the

440
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Speaker 1: kind of guy because of his potential and if he's

441
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Speaker 1: a guy who can break a few here or there,

442
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Speaker 1: I might be willing to reach for him and get

443
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Speaker 1: him in the third round. I think I'd be willing

444
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Speaker 1: to take that chance. Breeze loves him, Yeah, you know.

445
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Speaker 1: I mean there's so many things that play. I mean,

446
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Speaker 1: the Graham being gone, Marcus Colston being a year older, Uh,

447
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Speaker 1: you know. And I do think also because everything the

448
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Speaker 1: Saints have done this season seems to speak to them

449
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Speaker 1: wanting to run the football a little bit more. Uh.

450
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Speaker 1: That means that, you know, if mark Ingram can play

451
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Speaker 1: like he did last year, you've got defenses creeping up,

452
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Speaker 1: trying to load the box a little bit and then

453
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Speaker 1: and maybe that allows the Saints to kind of pop

454
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Speaker 1: a little bit over at the top of that front seven.

455
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Speaker 1: I kind of shake my head when I hear that

456
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Speaker 1: they're gonna load the box. Maybe maybe maybe the season

457
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Speaker 1: last year where there weren't many running backs running better

458
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Speaker 1: than mark Ingram and everything, so he dropped like a

459
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards on the Packers, I think, or

460
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Speaker 1: something like that in the game that they beat him.

461
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: That might have been the game where Cook's injured. Is thumb.

462
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but I don't think it's that crazy.

463
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Speaker 1: I think defenses might cure up for that. I I

464
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Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, But if you put eight guys

465
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Speaker 1: in the box against Drew Brees, I just think, you know, again,

466
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Speaker 1: what are defenses game planning for. They're not game planning

467
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Speaker 1: for mark Ingram. Well. I mean they might if if

468
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Speaker 1: it was some if it was a different kind of

469
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Speaker 1: offense with a different kind of quarterback, But you got

470
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees back there under center. I cannot imagine any

471
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator game planning against Marking Likely. Yeah, just it

472
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Speaker 1: could happen. But it does. It does speak to what

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Speaker 1: you're saying though. I mean it allows mark Ingram to

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Speaker 1: be a more effective player, because as we saw early

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Speaker 1: in his career, he wasn't running effectively. Last year in

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Speaker 1: a contract year, oh by the way, it was a

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Speaker 1: contract here, Uh, he did run pretty effectively. And if

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Speaker 1: he's able to do that, I don't see Brandon Cooks

479
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Speaker 1: is being a short uh route guy, a short yardage dude.

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Speaker 1: I do see him trying to pop it over the top,

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Speaker 1: because man, this kid's got some speed. Man, he's got speed.

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Speaker 1: Four days so yeah, I could see him trying to

483
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Speaker 1: go over the top, and look, the offense is still

484
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Speaker 1: a vertically based offense. Drew Brees has an unbelievable touch

485
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Speaker 1: on that deep ball, and I could see Brandon Cooks

486
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Speaker 1: streaking downfield quite a few times. I'm torn on Brandon Cooks,

487
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Speaker 1: I really am, because what what is the more effective player?

488
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Speaker 1: If Brandon Cooks runs downfield, catches sixty balls, has yards

489
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Speaker 1: and like seven touchdowns, but he only catches like fifty

490
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Speaker 1: or sixty balls because that's what he does. So he's

491
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Speaker 1: de Shaun Jackson, right. Is he gonna be a show

492
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Speaker 1: where every week you're he might not produce, but the

493
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Speaker 1: weeks that he does produce, you're like, holy cow, I'll

494
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Speaker 1: take that. I think Marcus was right before. He's going

495
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Speaker 1: to be a high volume. He's gonna get right. So

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think the guy who I

497
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Speaker 1: think the downfield threat becomes Nick too. And I mean

498
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Speaker 1: he's a he's a big your body. He's the guy

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Speaker 1: who can get downfield, especially against bigger, stronger corners. I

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Speaker 1: think he's that guy that they look kind of, Yeah, basically,

501
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Speaker 1: he's that guy, you know, Josh Hill, I know Josh

502
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Speaker 1: was no Jimmy Graham. But he's your big tight end

503
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Speaker 1: that that occupies space in the center of the field,

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Speaker 1: and you've got you've got Cooks to run those little

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Speaker 1: quick underneath. I think maybe occasionally he gets down the field,

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Speaker 1: but I think I think he has that extended handoff

507
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Speaker 1: capability where they just dump it off to him and

508
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Speaker 1: they say, all right, do some work. I would love

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Speaker 1: the volume playing Brandon Cooks if he was just a

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Speaker 1: bit bigger, a smallish guy like that. Man, it's hard,

511
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Speaker 1: you know. For example, last year, Calvin Benjamin super high

512
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Speaker 1: on Kelvin Benjamin because listen the offenses in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We know Cam Newton is going to throw the ball

514
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Speaker 1: five hundred times. Somebody's got to catch those five passes somebody,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't really have a guy who was going

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Speaker 1: to be a standout Kelvin Benjamin. But but but what

517
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Speaker 1: I'm saying though, is Kelvin Benjamin was a huge target

518
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Speaker 1: with really good hands. I don't know if Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 1: fits that mold and Alex you mentioned it too. He's

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Speaker 1: he's a bit on the smalleish side, so which to

521
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Speaker 1: come back. I I don't think that's necessarily a big detractor.

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Speaker 1: I am a fan of team small receiver. You look

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Speaker 1: at the top of the list, Antonio Brown, team small receiver,

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Speaker 1: t Y, Hilton, Randall, Cob Percy Harvin, when he actually

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Speaker 1: puts together a full season is on that list. Kendall

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Speaker 1: Wright had a good year last year, so I don't

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Speaker 1: think that excludes him from being a good deep threat

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Speaker 1: of things like that. I was just saying, more so

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Speaker 1: we need we need to see it on the tape first, alright,

530
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Speaker 1: bounce back players continued here. How about Victor Cruz in

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Speaker 1: New York. He tore a plateller tendon, basically his knee.

532
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Speaker 1: Captain in there missed the last ten games ten that's

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Speaker 1: when we saw O d B emerge. But before the injury,

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Speaker 1: it's not like this guy was having a very good year. Look,

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Speaker 1: twenty three catches, three D, thirty seven yards, one touchdown

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Speaker 1: in just six games. If you were to project that out,

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Speaker 1: that's like nine hundred yards and three touchdowns over sixteen

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Speaker 1: game season. That's not great numbers. And that was also

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Speaker 1: b B before Beckham before Okay. So Cruizes injury is

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Speaker 1: scary because if you look back at the history of

541
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Speaker 1: NFL players coming back from tor In Patel a tenants.

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Speaker 1: I mean Cadillac Williams comes to mind. I mean, he

543
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Speaker 1: never really got his his his groove back, and this

544
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Speaker 1: is gonna take some time. I don't think Cruiz is

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Speaker 1: a lot to even be ready for a week one.

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Speaker 1: So he is someone that you take a flyer. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna be taking a flyer on. Uh, you're gonna be

548
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Speaker 1: taking him late. You're gonna be taking him maybe round fourteen,

549
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Speaker 1: just to say, hey, okay, I think savvy draft wide receiver,

550
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Speaker 1: I'll take a chance on him. I think you're right right,

551
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: Savvy drafters will take him super late if they take

552
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Speaker 1: him at all. But because of the name value, Victor Cruz,

553
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Speaker 1: and in that market as well, you know this guy's

554
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Speaker 1: going he's gonna be drafted. Somebody's gonna draft the guy.

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Speaker 1: Me personally, I'm not touching him because i'd rather just

556
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Speaker 1: you know, take a flyer on a on a young player.

557
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Speaker 1: Uh like wow, maybe not Davonte Parker, but a young player,

558
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Speaker 1: a young wide receiver somewhere, a young running back somewhere.

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna be drafted. I think I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be drafted in rounds Tanti eleven. I don't. I

561
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Speaker 1: don't think he's going to go early, but I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be a great value for him.

563
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Speaker 1: But but what are some projections for Marcus. I'm well,

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Speaker 1: I'm first off, I'm with you. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: drafted him. I don't. I don't think I'm gonna touch

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Speaker 1: Victor Cruizer this year. I mean, I think he's a

567
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Speaker 1: guy who comes in and and you know, maybe he's

568
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Speaker 1: you know, fifty sixty catches, maybe he's around you know,

569
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Speaker 1: seven hundred yards something like that, a couple of touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not gonna be what you saw before

571
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Speaker 1: from him, you know. And I think it's it is

572
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Speaker 1: mostly because it partially it will be because of Beckham

573
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Speaker 1: and and pretty much he will suck all of the

574
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Speaker 1: year out of that offense, but parton because you just

575
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Speaker 1: don't know how he is going to respond, how Cruiz

576
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Speaker 1: was gonna respond from this injury, and everything that you've

577
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: heard from the Giants has been very cautious. He's been

578
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Speaker 1: very optimistic. I mean, we hope he can be there,

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Speaker 1: but there's no certainty at all. In fact, I mean

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Speaker 1: not that I would draft Reuben Randall, but I would

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Speaker 1: probably look at Ruben Randall before I looked at Victor

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Speaker 1: Cruz this year. Interesting. Alright, Galhard, what do you think

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Speaker 1: I'm with Marcus on that? I think if you do

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Speaker 1: draft him, I was gonna say, hopefully we can caution

585
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Speaker 1: drafters to not get you know, sold on the name

586
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: value and always gonna play with Odell Beckham. People who

587
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Speaker 1: listen to this podcast, hopefully, I mean they're smart enough

588
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: that they're downloading the podcast, which everybody else should do

589
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: on iTunes and everything else. However, Yeah, if we're talking

590
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Speaker 1: about flyers, I think I might rather take a flyer

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Speaker 1: on Reuben Randall or Victor Cruise. I guess flip a

592
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Speaker 1: coin in the fifteen round for depth. A little bit

593
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Speaker 1: of a counter argument to that is that Eli Manning

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Speaker 1: does like Victor Cruz. He's targeting him a bunch um.

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Speaker 1: And you know again, I think the Canner argument to

596
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Speaker 1: the Odell Beckham thing is that, look, Beckham is gonna

597
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be over the top. He's gonna run those

598
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Speaker 1: medium to two two long routes. But the offense that

599
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Speaker 1: they play in is that typical West Coast short passes,

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Speaker 1: safe passes, we saw Eli Manning really tried to adjust

601
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Speaker 1: to that, and Victor Cruz to me, is a great

602
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: slot receiver when he healthy. I don't know how healthy

603
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: he is, but if he was healthy playing in that

604
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: West Coast slot offense, I'd say he's actually pretty good fit.

605
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Speaker 1: He's a pretty good fit, and he's got good chemistry

606
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Speaker 1: with Eli Manning. He's not a bad he's not a

607
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: bad play in PPR if he's healthy. If he's healthy,

608
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: but we don't question. We just don't know how how

609
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Speaker 1: healthy he's gonna be this year. You know, he's as

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Speaker 1: an aside, so you mentioned you mentioned Beckham, and one

611
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Speaker 1: of things Alex and I were talking about, I think

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Speaker 1: I think for everybody who is frightened Victor Cruz, I

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Speaker 1: think that's going to fuel the overdrafting of Odell Beckham

614
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Speaker 1: this year. I think I have him as a second

615
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Speaker 1: round guy. I think I think in a lot of

616
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Speaker 1: leagues you're gonna see him go in the first round.

617
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Speaker 1: And I think what's gonna happen is a lot of

618
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Speaker 1: people are gonna be disappointed because I think I think

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Speaker 1: Beckham's numbers this year will look a lot like his

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Speaker 1: numbers last year, except that they'll be spread out of

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Speaker 1: games as the post. It's weelve. So people are gonna

622
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Speaker 1: look back and they'll say, man, he was a bust.

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Speaker 1: He was terrible. You're like, no, he wasn't terrible. He

624
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Speaker 1: was just so amazing last year that nothing is going

625
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Speaker 1: to compare to that. But I mean the reason I

626
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Speaker 1: like Odell Beckham, Uh, I can give you like ten

627
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: ten reasons how like Odell Beckham is good. He's athletic,

628
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Speaker 1: he makes awesome catches, he scores Fantasy points. He's got

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Speaker 1: cool hair. That's basically reason number one for well, he's

630
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Speaker 1: got cool hair for me. I so I dig the hair.

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Speaker 1: But no, I mean Eli man has got a little

632
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Speaker 1: bit of tunnel vision. I don't think I'm stepping out

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Speaker 1: by saying that here, Okay, I don't think I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: shocking the world by saying Eli Manning's got a little

635
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Speaker 1: bit of tunnel vision. And he's got tunnel vision for

636
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Speaker 1: for Odell Beckham Jr. He doesn't care if O dB

637
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Speaker 1: is double covered. He's gonna throw it down there. He

638
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Speaker 1: doesn't care if his triple covered. He doesn't care if

639
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham runs the wrong round. He's throwing it over there,

640
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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford digs that idea. He loves that, he loves

641
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Speaker 1: that idea. Yeah, but again, I like O dB a

642
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Speaker 1: lot um. I don't think you're out of your mind

643
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Speaker 1: taking him uh at the end of the first round.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, if I'm at the other

645
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Speaker 1: first round, I might do that if I'm an experts, Like,

646
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Speaker 1: let to tell what's gonna happen. If I'm at the

647
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Speaker 1: end of the first round, Yeah, tell us your strategy

648
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: right now. I'll gladly tell you right now, I'm taking

649
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. You can have him hopefully she was there,

650
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: and then I will take ten ten eleven swing. I'm

651
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: doing it. I'm going quarterback wide receiver, super not expertise,

652
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: super not expertise. That's like, you know, that's that's not advisable.

653
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: But Beckham in the second round, we need like we

654
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Speaker 1: need we need a sound drop on the show of

655
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Speaker 1: like I don't know, something like Wiley Coyote, like falling

656
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Speaker 1: off because James co like two shows in a row, now,

657
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: who's just taking a running leap towards the cliff and

658
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: just jumped off. I'm waiting until the end of the

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Speaker 1: third round to take a running back and then and

660
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: then the sound of the and Bill coming in. That

661
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Speaker 1: is what I'm doing right now. We don't know if

662
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Speaker 1: he's fallen off yet. He's just holding the sign and

663
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Speaker 1: don't look down, Just don't look down. You know we've

664
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Speaker 1: been we've been talking about all these drafting and you

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Speaker 1: can actually you know, I've gotten questions on Twitter. Hey,

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Speaker 1: when are you guys open for for business? Here business

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Speaker 1: mock drafts right now. And oh, by the way, before

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Speaker 1: got you. We'll have Fabs mentioned his column about targets

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Speaker 1: and targets left behind. We'll have that. I mean, everything

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Speaker 1: Everything you need to know to be smarter than that

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Speaker 1: By the way, I know it must be draft getting

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Speaker 1: close to drafting season, because I'm starting to get the

685
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Speaker 1: angry tweets. How can you put player X, Y and

686
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Z on this list of X, Y and Z? How

687
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Speaker 1: and you do that? I had a good one over

688
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Speaker 1: the weekend. Somebody dug up a tweet I had. They

689
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Speaker 1: had asked me a question back in like November December,

690
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Speaker 1: and then they threw it back at me in June saying, hey,

691
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Speaker 1: remember this man, Like, what are you doing with that? Amazing?

692
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Speaker 1: You get ahead of that by saying, listen, I messed up.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna mess up. It happens. Cordery Patterson, I I

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Speaker 1: beck we. I refused to admit that I mess up,

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Speaker 1: you know, And that's what I'm going to all knowledge

696
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Speaker 1: of these right exactly. Yeah, it's all it's all just

697
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Speaker 1: educated guess that's true. It's fun as well, all right.

698
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: Dennis Pitta in Baltimore, he dislocated and fractured his hip

699
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: for the second time in two years. Last year it

700
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: was a non contact injury, weird looking injury. He just

701
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Speaker 1: caught ball, crumpled to the ground. But the team says

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00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: he's a hundred percent recovered. Yeah, but is he ready

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Speaker 1: to play football? Joe Fla also said he's going to

704
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Speaker 1: play into his forties earlier this week. So I don't

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Speaker 1: really trust much as right out of Baltimore, right exactly. Also,

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Speaker 1: Dennis pitt Up is he is he a bounced back candidate?

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Speaker 1: I gotta think that Alex Geal hars got a little

708
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Speaker 1: bit of info here, because you've got Crockett Gilmore. I

709
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: can't hear the word Crockett without thinking Sony Emmy Vice.

710
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: I can't do it. One of my favorite shows growing up.

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00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: That's a little bit before Great, that's a little bit

712
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: before not your time, not my time, gil Harst time.

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Speaker 1: I've seen some he is, but he's like nineteen years

714
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Speaker 1: o side. You know there's a football connection for Sonny Crockett.

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Speaker 1: He played or receiver at Florida State. I want to

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Speaker 1: say he was a wide receiver. Let's look at that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna Marks Is gonna do that. Alex galhar Is

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Speaker 1: gonna ask my question relevant TV conferences getting not super reliant,

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Speaker 1: but out of it. I'm just I'm worried about Pitt.

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Speaker 1: I liked him. He's a great player. Um, And the

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Speaker 1: reason I have Crocket Gilmore as a deep sleeper on

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00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: our last podcast is because we just didn't we didn't

723
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Speaker 1: know anything about Dennis Pitty yet, so it's just gonna

724
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Speaker 1: be one to watch. I would still be leally, like

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00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: we said in the last cast, to tight end is

726
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: just a disaster now after the top couple of guys.

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00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: So if you want to take a flyer on Dennis

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Speaker 1: Pitta and roster two tight ends to start, go for it.

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00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: Don't do it. What are you talking about. Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't draft. Listen, drafters out there, do not draft two

731
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Speaker 1: tight ends. Don't don't do that. Don't do that. That's

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a waste of a roster spot. Don't

733
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Speaker 1: do that because there's just there's not enough depth to

734
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Speaker 1: bother with that. Well, on upside, guys, last year I

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Speaker 1: drafted two tight ends in the number of leagues, in

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Speaker 1: the second one I took with Travis Kelsey and that

737
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: worked out pretty down well, that's true, So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to Kelsey he had eight hundred plus yards what

739
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Speaker 1: five touchdowns? Uh, yeah, it's stop after tight ends all

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Speaker 1: you took on exactly. That's that's what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: there was your first tight end those the question, Uh

742
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Speaker 1: depends on the league's I think it's gates sometimes. Dwyanne Allen,

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Speaker 1: that's that's not bad. Yeah, that's pretty good. Sunny Crockett

744
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: was a wide receiver at Florida. Florida once ninety two

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Speaker 1: yards with six seconds remaining in the game against Alabama

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Speaker 1: and catching the winning pass and the Gator ball, and um,

747
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: he really wasn't a football all right. Um, But again,

748
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Speaker 1: the guy who's who's going quarterback wider shiver first two

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Speaker 1: rounds is telling you not to take two tight ends

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Speaker 1: in your fans. So right, Okay, we move on trains,

751
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: hype trains versus smoke screens. And this is basically a

752
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: segment where look, when o t as run around, you

753
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: start hearing crazy stuff, you start hearing Craiz, you start

754
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: hearing Craig crazy stuff. A lot of that is just

755
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: smoke screens, but sometimes it's a little bit of the

756
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: hype train. You want to get on board before it

757
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: gets too crazy. C J. Spiller apparently reportedly allegedly showing

758
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: well in New Orleans. Uh have we ever heard that C. J.

759
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: Spiller looks great in the off season? Ever, like every year,

760
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: every year, I was going to allegedly run until he puked. Right,

761
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: He's had one good year in his career. He had

762
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: like hundred total yards and eight total touchdowns. That was

763
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: back in He wasn't terrible. He had one good year,

764
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: but he wasn't had one was the high ankle spring year,

765
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: which for a running back that it's like, that's it's yeah,

766
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Speaker 1: it's an injury that's not gonna like sideline you for

767
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: the season, but you're gonna lose all effectiveness. And for

768
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Speaker 1: a guy like Spiller who thrives on his ability to

769
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: make quick cuts and change direction and use his acceleration,

770
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Speaker 1: having one bum ankle, like a very badly bum ankle

771
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: totally ruined his effective But it's but it's not like,

772
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Speaker 1: it's not like that's a rarity for C. J. Spiller.

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Speaker 1: So I guess here's my question. Look, it's high powered offense.

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00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: I get it. He's a you know, gonna be a

775
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: very good receiving back. They're thinking of playing him in

776
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: that Darren Sprawls type role. So he's in a good

777
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Speaker 1: offense with a good quarterback, and he's got a good role.

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Speaker 1: But where do you take C. J. Spiller? What are

779
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: the projections for him? Is it a hype train that

780
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: you should get on or is this just one of

781
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: those preseasons smoke screens. Well, I'm sorry. Here's here's what

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00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: I think Spiller is what he's been. He is a

783
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: high risk, high reward player, okay, because the risk comes

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Speaker 1: from the fact that the hype is building and he's

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00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: going to be drafted probably too high. Uh. And the

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00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: reward is when the guys on the field, and in

787
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Speaker 1: this offense with Drew Brees as the quarterback, there's a

788
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: whole bunch of upside. Sure. Now keep in mind that

789
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: the Saints lost a hundred backfield targets from last year's

790
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: roster in Pierre Thomas and Treveris Cadet, so there's a

791
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities. I don't love Spiller in his standard league.

792
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: I think he's an RB three flex type, But in

793
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: a PPR league, you could see him catching sixty plus

794
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: passes in this offense, especially because they've lost so much

795
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: in that passing game. Off the off the trade of

796
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham and the trade of Kenny Stills, So there's

797
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: not a lot of solid options there in the past attack.

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00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna get him the football. I think he's going

799
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: to be a better PPR option than he is in

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Speaker 1: standard leagues. And I think it's still mark ingram and

801
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: standard league's early down work, goal line work. Uh, he's

802
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: going to be the guy who's gonna rush the football

803
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: two times. When you say he's gonna be drafted too early,

804
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Where are where are you protecting him?

805
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: And where do you think people are gonna take? Are

806
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: we talking about standards and talking about a pr league standard?

807
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: In standard leagues, I don't even think he's worth picking

808
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: in the first five rounds. I don't first ten. Oh sure,

809
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: oh sure, Yeah, he's going somewhere between six. I would say,

810
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: probably somewhere between six and eight. But in a PPR league,

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Speaker 1: he's probably going in the first five rounds. Okay, So

812
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Speaker 1: let's say he's sitting there in the seventh round. Does

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Speaker 1: Michael Fabia, what's my scoring system? Standard league? Seventh round?

814
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Speaker 1: Are you taking C J. Spiller? I would say as

815
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Speaker 1: a three slash four I probably would. I'd rather take

816
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: him as a four because remember my strategy as load

817
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: up on running backs. You know why that's you know

818
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: what he just said scares you know why there's nobody

819
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: more hot have you for running backs? But we're talking

820
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: about standard score. I understand a guy who's disappointed every year,

821
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: but one, and and and to piggyback on that idea

822
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Speaker 1: that this is what I'm saying is you are very

823
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: uh invested in running backs in round seven, You're saying

824
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: this guy, you'd be more comfortable with him as an

825
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: RB four, RB three or four depending on how many

826
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: running backs you drafted. You know what that tells me?

827
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Speaker 1: That tells me I'm not drafting the dude. That's what

828
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: that tells me, because whatever the price is, I think

829
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna be too high. See, and now I feel

830
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of on board with this, but I'm

831
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: on board with the thought that I have diminished expectations

832
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: for C. J. Spike. Okay, I mean this isn't a

833
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. You know you we all made

834
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: the joke about he's gonna run the ball to leap

835
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: pukes and then something really happened. You know, we all

836
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: got disappointed. But now he comes into the situation in

837
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Speaker 1: New Orleans one playing with the best quarterback he's ever

838
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: had in his career, playing in the best offense he's

839
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: ever been in question career, playing on that surf in

840
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Speaker 1: New Orleans, where a guy with a lot of quickness

841
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: and agility can really he succeed eight games a year plus.

842
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: You know, well, I think he's got two more game

843
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: or one more game in Atlanta on that turf. They're

844
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: getting away from gold as well, right getting out of that.

845
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: So I feel like there are there are advantages, But

846
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: at the same time, we're not expecting him to go

847
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: out and rush for you know, nine hundred or a

848
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: thousand yards. You know, if you're looking at him as

849
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: a guy who can catch sixty passes, maybe pick up

850
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: about you know, seven seven hundred yards receiving, you know,

851
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: score five or six touchdowns receiving, maybe get another maybe

852
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 1: another touchdown or two on the ground. If you're looking

853
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: at him as a guy that you're gonna play as

854
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: a flex option, I'm all, I'm all about that. I'm

855
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: on board with that. So flex option. So so what

856
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: are we talking here? You what are some realistic expectations

857
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: for C. J. Spiller. I mean we're talking. I mean,

858
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: I get it. Sixty catch that's first of all, that's

859
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: that's a ton that's conservative. I think that's because offense,

860
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: that's that's probably his floor. Yeah, Darren Sprawls the last

861
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: three years he was there average seventy seven catches a year.

862
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: I agree, And that was not Darren sprawl one year

863
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: pure Thomas hanse so so, so give me some numbers.

864
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: What are something I mean, we can't talk about Russian yards.

865
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: What are some scrimmage yards for this guy? A thousand

866
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 1: I think a thousand yards. Yeah, I think a thousand

867
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: yards scrimmage yards, and I'll give him six touchdowns. That's

868
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: a bunch, I think flex. I think he can do

869
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: better than a thousand scrimmage yards to be quite honesta. Um.

870
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: But if we're drafting, I think there's a zero percent.

871
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: If if we're drafting purely on upside, I mean, drafts

872
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: would look completely different. So, Uh, Spiller is a guy

873
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: who has disappointed us. He's in a great situation, the

874
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: best situation he's ever been in his career. Uh, He's

875
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: not exactly durable. No, you have to think about that too, exactly,

876
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: and that's what and that's what I'm talking about. And

877
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: again we're in the how often in fantasy do we

878
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: project out who's going to be the number one two

879
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: guys and it's always some random dude who emerges as

880
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: an actual number two guy or an actual number one.

881
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: Nobody had c J. Anderson circle on their pre draft roster,

882
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: including myself one person. I mean, I love cow players too.

883
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking c J. Anderson or Justin. So again,

884
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: guys emerge and to me, c J, c J. Spiller,

885
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: not c J Anderson, c J. Spiller. Yeah, I think

886
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: you're right. You know, if everything falls in place, eleven yards,

887
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, I think is realistic for him. I don't

888
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get there. So I'm not really I'm

889
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: not really thinking about spending an eighth round draft pick

890
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: on this guy. Seventh round draft, sixth round draft PPR.

891
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: I I agree with you, Mike, Uh, you know, fifty

892
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: sixty catches. I think it's totally realistic. It's a ton still,

893
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: but I think it's totally realistic. But again, and so

894
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: that to me would raise his floor. Uh, and I'd

895
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: be more comfortable drafting him in the sixth seventh round.

896
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: But standard LEAs Man. You mentioned six touchdowns, Marcus, I

897
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: cannot to get the boode getting six offense. Yeah, absolutely,

898
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: plus plus. I think if we're looking at him as

899
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: a flex what you're hoping for is he finishes in

900
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: the range of RB, which is where historically a lot

901
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: of these PPR third down backs like Danny woodheads uh,

902
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: you know, Shane Verenes and the Darren Sprawls of the world,

903
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: and pure Thomas will slot in. J'll finish as a

904
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: running back twenty two, which is if you're getting in

905
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: the eighth round for your occasional flex. I think that's

906
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: pretty good. He also benefits from some of the same

907
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: things we said about Brandon Cooks. I mean, all of

908
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: those targets that are gone, that are open there in

909
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: New Orleans, they gotta go somewhere. Okay, So there you go.

910
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: What are you guys trying to get me on the

911
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: hype train here? Okay, get on board, and I'm gonna say,

912
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: smoke screen, hype train, smoke screen, Marcus. I'm going I'm

913
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: going to hype train, Alex, I'm getting on the train,

914
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: fabs PPR train, Okay, Ryan Tannehill is he ready to

915
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: break out? This is a guy that was actually a

916
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: pretty solid performer. ESPEC in the back half of the

917
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: season had stretches of being really good and really consistent, right,

918
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: but when he wasn't good, he really wasn't the problem.

919
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: He's still learning the position scary, as scary as it

920
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: is to say gaining a rapport with a whole new

921
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: corps of wide receivers, a new tight end. But he's

922
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: got better weapons on the perimeter. Kenny Stills true vertical threat. Um,

923
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I mean, Mike Wallace was supposed to

924
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: be that guy last year that didn't pan out. I

925
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: think Kenny Stills has got more speed than him, and

926
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: I think he might be more I don't want to

927
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: say this, he want he might be more focused on

928
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: the team, uh than Mike Wallace is. And so Ryan

929
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: Tannehill working with some of these younger guys. Jarvis Landry's

930
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: got another year under his belt. Um, it's interesting jay

931
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: E down there as well. It's a good name, a

932
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: good compliment to that Miami backfield. Ryan Tannehill, Um, I

933
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: think we can all agree here, yes, that he's pretty

934
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: much a lock to be around that number ten quarterback Mark. Yeah.

935
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: So so now let's get aggressive. Who he is willing

936
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: to say he can be a top seven guy? Oh?

937
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: I I mean he was. He was a top seven guy.

938
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: He was number seven last year, so I think he was.

939
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: He was number seven last Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

940
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: He was number eight. Okay, So let's go a little further.

941
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: Is he a top six guy. I'll say it. I'll

942
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: say it because I I am on I am, I

943
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: am on the Ryan Tannehill hype train. I really am,

944
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: because I do like what what he did last year,

945
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: what you saw for him last year. And I think

946
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: the Dolmins have kind of figured out that, you know,

947
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: they had this idea they would bring in Mike Wallace,

948
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: he'd be the deep threat. They'd have some big connection

949
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: they would play. You know, it would be like that

950
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: old style Al Davis like vertical football. That's not gonna happen.

951
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: I think they've they've kind of retooled this offense a

952
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, I like what Bill Laser is

953
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: doing down there with that offense. But they they've got

954
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: some guys that are better at running intermediate rounds. I mean,

955
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: we saw what Jarvis Landry did last year. Alex mentioned

956
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: that Kenny Stills has broadened his ability so that he's

957
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: not just running wind sprints down the sideline all the time.

958
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: So their opportunities there, Jordan Cameron bringing him in at

959
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: the tight end spot. If he can stay healthy for

960
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, twelve to fourteen games, that adds another dimension

961
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: to that passing game. We're getting aggress the healthy for

962
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: eight games. Okay, whatever looks like that too. But let's

963
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: let's not forget the fact Tanny Hill can get out

964
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: and run too. So you know that's the underrated That's

965
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: the part that we don't talk about, especially in fantasy.

966
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. This guy last year ran

967
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: for three hundred yards, had Russian touchdowns, so you know,

968
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to confuse him with Russell

969
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: Wilson or Colin Kaepernick. But he can get out of

970
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: the pocket and make some plays with his legs, and

971
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a reason. Combine that with the fact

972
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: that you look at some of the other guys who

973
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: have been in the top five for a while. I mean,

974
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning is getting older, Drew Brees is getting older,

975
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean Tom Brady wasn't the top five guy. But

976
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: he's the guy who's gonna miss you know, looks like

977
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: four games. Yes, so some of these guys who have

978
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: been perennial five quarterbacks are gonna start to fall out

979
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: and somebody's got to replace him. And I like Ryan

980
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: Tannehill to be one of those. How Ryan sani Hill

981
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: is the top five fantasy quarterback if you rank them

982
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: based on the hotness of their whif. So let's go,

983
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: let's wait a minute now, Mark all right, you got

984
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: La tanne Hill, right, you got Brady's got Gazelle? Is

985
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: that number one? That's gotta be number one? You think? So?

986
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: How how does it get? All? Right? And that way?

987
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Aaron Rodgers girlfriend is Olivia Munn right, so very

988
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: cute girl. Okay, So so it's it's Gazelle's number one.

989
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: I mean she's a supermo lent Hill lawreent t Hill too,

990
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: or you know what are we talking about here, Tony

991
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: Romo very roof right, she was miss Missouri? I think, right?

992
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: She I think? So? Yeah? Okay, so I know I

993
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: went completely off the rails a little bit of different research.

994
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: This is this is a fantasy football show. It's fantasy

995
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: so it's a lot of fun bro different kinds. What

996
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think? Different? Different kind

997
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: of fantasy? Right when you dial one eight hundred fantasy, Okay,

998
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: that's not going to take it to a fantasy for

999
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: coming to us. Not, that's not where that's going a minute.

1000
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: That's I wish I could charge a minute. But that's

1001
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: a lot more angry tweets back on the Tannehill subject.

1002
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the top ten quarterback who you're not

1003
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: going to have to draft until after round ten, which

1004
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: is why you wait down a quarterback. Okay, but but

1005
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: again let's get back to this here. Top six quarterback?

1006
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: Are you do you think he can approach that? He

1007
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: was seven three last year? So yeah, two spots? Sure,

1008
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's not that. Can I go further? Can

1009
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: I go further? That's not that big of a top

1010
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: five anybody, I'll put it. I'll put him top. I

1011
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: put him at five. That's that's as high as I'm

1012
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: willing to go with with with Ryan Tanny. So look,

1013
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. So we got set can be a

1014
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: top ten running back, then Ryan tanne Hill could be

1015
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: a top Anything can happen in the national There's no

1016
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: question but who's who's comfortable saying he's he could be

1017
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: a top five I'll say it. I'm prople saying he

1018
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: could be a top five quarterback. This year has been

1019
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: amazingly silent. Well, I was just trying not to get

1020
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: burned by like swell of passion for Ryan Tannehill. UM sure,

1021
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: top five, the most tepid top five. I like. I

1022
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: like him a lot too. I think Mark's point is

1023
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: that somebody's going to rise up eventually, and if it's

1024
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: not this year for Tannehill, I don't think it will

1025
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: ever be because he's got all the weapons he could need.

1026
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: He should be hitting his stride. They just give a

1027
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: new contract, all right, where do you take him? Then?

1028
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: I would love him. Like Fat said around round ten

1029
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: or something, that he's going to be drafted somewhere in

1030
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: that area around ten to twelve. And it has nothing

1031
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: to do with how good or bad he is. If

1032
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: what happened, I'm thrilled. I think I think that's amazing value.

1033
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: I think he's the guy who outperforms his his draft

1034
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: position this year. You know who always quarterbacks? That's good.

1035
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He's gonna But what you're saying,

1036
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: by him being a top five guy, he's gonna outperform

1037
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: guys like Matt Stafford. Well, yeah, that's that's a given.

1038
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: That's a given. I mean even last year, I'll perform

1039
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: guys like Eli Manning. Who again, these guys are gonna

1040
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: get drafted ahead of Ryan Tannehill because Tannehill doesn't have

1041
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: that name. I mean, who would you really have her

1042
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: number one quarterback? Ryan tanne Hill? Are Eli Manning? Mm hmm.

1043
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: That's a tough call for I've got them ranked about

1044
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: the samet. I have Tanna, They're they're close, but i'd

1045
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: i'd go Tannehill. They have Tannehill. Gotta like the mobility

1046
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: because aside from his two or three step drops out

1047
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: of shotgun, he's not he's not running all right. So

1048
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: get so, given the price, we'll say, round tin, Ryan Tannehill,

1049
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: hype train, smoke scrain. I'm I'm on the train with

1050
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Stabs. Round Tin Tannehill, hype training, smoke screen. Well,

1051
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: round ten. I'll take them all day long. I think

1052
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: he might even fall a few rounds uh later. You

1053
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: might be right, Ryan Lashawn McCoy to get three hundred

1054
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: plus carries that smoke screen. First of all, I don't

1055
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: know all. First of all, I don't understand. I don't

1056
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: understand what the big deal is. The guy has gotten

1057
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: three hundred carries? Am I wrong? Years he had? I

1058
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: think got three twelve last year, So he's got three

1059
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: hundred plus carries for two straight seasons. I don't understand

1060
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: why it's a big deal. Uh when Buffalo says they're

1061
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: going to give him the rock three hundred times, because

1062
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: everybody says that. I mean, you know, plus, has he

1063
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: ever had a guy? And I know Fred Jackson is

1064
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: not the same guy he was before. But every year

1065
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: we count out Fred Jackson, and then every year Fred

1066
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: Jackson gets like a hundred and fifty carries, you know,

1067
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: and he surprises all of us. I do think. You know,

1068
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: you've got Fred Jackson there. They're also gotta find ways

1069
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: to get Percy harv in the football, you know, they've

1070
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: got to do. I mean, they don't have to, but

1071
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: I think they will. You know, Look, Rex is all

1072
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: about ground and pound, and I think they're gonna find

1073
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: ways to get the ball in Percy Harvin's hands. Are

1074
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: gonna find ways to try and run the ball between

1075
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: the tackles, which isn't necessarily Lashawn McCoy strength. Uh you know,

1076
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: so I think they're gonna find different things to do.

1077
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: You know, I think he gets close. I wouldn't be

1078
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: surprised if he doesn't get the three hundred carries this year.

1079
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: I mean, if he is somewhere around five to nine,

1080
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: that wouldn't surprise me at all. Uh in in in

1081
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people's minds, getting Lashawn McCoy something like

1082
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: two hundred seventy five carries is actually probably better for him,

1083
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: right in a lot of ways, because he could be

1084
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: more effective with those two hundred seventy five carries. Then

1085
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: if he got three. Dude, they're gonna run him into

1086
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: the ground. They paid him a lot of money and

1087
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan gave up. They loves to run the ball.

1088
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: If you look at what he did with the Jets,

1089
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 1: and all but one year the Jets were top six

1090
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: in Russia attempts. And I don't listen, um Booby Dixon

1091
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: is fun to say. Fred Jackson has been a really

1092
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: good running back in the past. This is the Lashawn

1093
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: McCoy show in my opinion. All right, what does that mean?

1094
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: Is he a top five player? Overall, I have him draft.

1095
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: I have him as a late first round draft pick. Alright,

1096
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: Just for reference, last year, only two running backs top

1097
00:54:54,360 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: three D carries DeMarco at interesting. Where was where was

1098
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch on that list? I thought he got a

1099
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: couple of you got a couple of games where he

1100
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: had bubble guts and yeah, like set down for a quarter.

1101
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: So bubble guts is never fun. Never fun. Technical term

1102
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: is that is a medical term because that always turns

1103
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: into button bubbles. Wow, Okay, I don't know where we're

1104
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: going with this shot by three hund plus carries have

1105
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: train smoke screen marks. I'm going smoke screen, smoke screen, Alex.

1106
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: I can't even see you sitting in front of me

1107
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: right now, James Fabs, you're on it. McCoy. Of course

1108
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: he's going to get over three as well. All right,

1109
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: Monty ball the one B, two C, J Anderson's one A.

1110
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure. Uh is this a debate? I mean,

1111
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: this is a bab burned all of us, most of us.

1112
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: He didn't burn me. Here's the thing, here's the argument.

1113
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: You know what, there was a Denver Broncos running back

1114
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: who was a very good antsy player last year. I

1115
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: just was the wrong. I mean, I wasn't on it.

1116
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: I was a hundred percent against money ball. I feel

1117
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: like him saying he's the one B too. C J.

1118
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: Anderson's one A is suggesting they're gonna have a similar

1119
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: number of cares. That's what I'm saying. And no, no,

1120
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: Ronnie Hillman was better than Monte last year. I mean

1121
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: when you have like a one like last year joyke

1122
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: Bell and Reggie Bush, that was like a one situation.

1123
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: That was a lot more. Even this is going to

1124
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: be c J. Anderson smoke. I say smoke unless he's

1125
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: considering everybody gets a one on the depth chart like

1126
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: participation kind of thing. So that's the only way it's

1127
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: not smoke. Yep, I agree with that. Okay. Bengals backfield, though,

1128
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: this is a little bit more interesting. It's supposed to

1129
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: be a quote unquote balanced attack. Jeremy hill last nine

1130
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: games nine hundred yards, six touchdowns. He had four games

1131
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 1: of a hundred and forty five yards or more. Four

1132
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: of the last nine games he was putting up crazy

1133
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: yard at again those touchdowns too, man, Holy cow, uh

1134
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: Jail Bernard. He battled injuries all last year, but still

1135
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: actually put up okay numbers over a thousand scrimmage yards,

1136
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: seven total touchdowns. In PPR, he was more effective. He

1137
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: had forty three catches. Um, do we believe this a

1138
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: fifty fifty split in the Bengals. I don't know if

1139
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: you're going fifty fifty, but I think and this is

1140
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: the one I love. I loved hills potential. He showed

1141
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: that he could be a true bruiser in a feature

1142
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: back in the league last year. But every single team

1143
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: will preach about how running backs are just so valuable

1144
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: and you have to make sure that you don't overwork

1145
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: one of them. So could it go fifty? Sure? Uh,

1146
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: it absolutely could. Joe Berard's a good player. He's a

1147
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: really good player, and he was the guy before he

1148
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: got hurt lash And but that's what That's what I'm saying.

1149
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: He was hurt last year as well. Um, Marcus Grant,

1150
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: where do you go? Is it at? No? I don't

1151
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: think it's fifty fifty. I think if anything, it is

1152
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: like stuh Jeremy Hill A favor of Jeremy Hill. I

1153
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: I just felt like coming in two last season, there

1154
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: was talk that sure it's Geo's job now, but eventually,

1155
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, they feel like Jeremy Hill is the wave

1156
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: of the future and he's gonna take over that job.

1157
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: And I think it happens sooner than we expected it to,

1158
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: partially because of the injury. But now that it's that way,

1159
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: why we're going to go back to what it was before.

1160
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, look, running back situations are not backwards compatible,

1161
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: Like I mean, this thing has gone down the road

1162
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: and I don't see it coming back the other way.

1163
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: You know. I think it is compatible though, is these

1164
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: two skill sets in the backfield, and that's the way

1165
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 1: it could be balanced. We're not saying carries are gonna

1166
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: be a fifty fifty split or sixty forty, but just

1167
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: touches and use out of the backfield. I think there's

1168
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: gonna be opportunities for both of them to eat and

1169
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: probably finished in the top touches overall, touches fifty more.

1170
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: I think it's close. I think Hill has more. I

1171
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: think Hill is not an awful pass catcher, if I

1172
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: remember correctly, I think he had thirty two catches last

1173
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: year or something like that. It wasn't that it wasn't

1174
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: that bad. I know there was a thirty two in

1175
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: so um, he's he's not he's he's kind of like

1176
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, Eddie Lacy. He can catch the ball of

1177
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: the backfield of Jeremy Hill. Anyone who runs that violently,

1178
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: that good, that well, that explosive. And again, as you said,

1179
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: he's not a liability on on on passing downs either.

1180
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals would be foolish, would be foolish

1181
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: not to be running these guys out there in tandem

1182
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: together all the time. And maybe Geo Bernard slips out

1183
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: into the slot. Maybe he does that. I don't know.

1184
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is getting both of these guys

1185
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: on the field because they are two of your top

1186
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: three most explosive players on the field. With a j

1187
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: Green out there as well. Look, you could maybe possibly

1188
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: stacked the box, yes, but the fact of the matter

1189
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: is you're gonna have to play pretty honest because the

1190
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: offense is pretty balanced. I mean, I don't know how

1191
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: balanced Jeremy Hill Yo Bernard split is gonna be, but

1192
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'm super on board with the

1193
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill hype train. And again I've basically said Jeremy

1194
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: Hill is going to have better numbers than Arian Foster.

1195
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: I've said that straight up, and I will and and

1196
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: and he's a big He's a big reason why I'm

1197
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: comfortable taking a running back late in the third round.

1198
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: My first running back late in the third round. Heck,

1199
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: can might be Jeremy Hill. If I get a core

1200
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: of of O, D B, Andrew Luck and Jeremy Hill.

1201
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing, dances man, I'm doing a jig.

1202
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: I like it. I'm feeling very comfortable with that. I

1203
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: really like Jeremy Hill this year and again, he's one

1204
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: of the big reasons why I think he's gonna outperform

1205
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: some of these guys that we see in the in

1206
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: the first round. Backtrack, you're thinking you could get Jeremy

1207
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: Hill at the end of the third round. Are we

1208
01:00:52,920 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: going with your hypothetical? Yeah? Are you something pish shot?

1209
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: SHOT's going at the end of the first round, at

1210
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: the beginning of round, he'll be here. He'll be gone

1211
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: like the latest mid second round, mid second the latest

1212
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: second Wow, all right, I don't even know where to

1213
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: go with that parade that that designed to get rained out.

1214
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that was like me trying to draft all

1215
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: cow players in our in our fantasy mock draft, and

1216
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: you guys would just not allow me to do that.

1217
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: That's not cool. You gonna have Richard Rodgers. That was

1218
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: not I took Richard Rodgers every mock draft, fifte round.

1219
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: I took him every single time. All right, listen, let's

1220
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: play a little game of either or Drew Brees or

1221
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Well, we're gonna do this one quick. Oh,

1222
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: by the way, I keep forgetting here. Mock drafts available

1223
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: right now NFL dot com slash Fantasy Football. You could

1224
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,959
Speaker 1: do mock drafts right this second NFL dot com slash

1225
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: Fantasy before we came up here for the podcast. But

1226
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: before you do that, you might want to get NFL

1227
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: dot com slash Draft Kit for our full rundown of

1228
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: sleepers and top draft picks, bust players that could possibly

1229
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: emerge as well. Anyways, all the good stuff there on

1230
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: NFL dot cops. Last draft kick very quick, Let's do

1231
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: a little game of either. Should we just say which

1232
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: name we pick? Are we going that quick? Are you

1233
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: gonna give us like one sentence, one sentence name explanation.

1234
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: We move on. Drew Brees, Peyton Manning will start with you, MG,

1235
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: I roar with Drew Brees. I just I feel more

1236
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: confident that he's going to be consistent over the course

1237
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: of sixteen games. Wow, all right, I'll come, Drew Brees.

1238
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: Gotta go with the younger arm younger by like seven

1239
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: younger younger man yeahs younger younger, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning FAPs,

1240
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm going Peyton Manning. I don't think he's going to

1241
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: be as bad as he was at the end of

1242
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: last year. God Willing, Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go.

1243
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: And he's still got all the great weapons. I agree.

1244
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: I think he's got a more balanced attack. I like

1245
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. I'll tell Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Marshawn Lynch,

1246
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: Matt four To. I love this question, man, this is

1247
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: a good one, and fads will start with you. What dude,

1248
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: Lynch is my guy? Man? I said last year, h

1249
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid of him. And Matt four t is

1250
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: not catching a hundred and two balls. I'll run to

1251
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: Chicago if he catches a hundred two balls. And that's

1252
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: not gonna happen because because Mark Trustman is no longer there,

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01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: the head coach there, and by default d Oc there

1254
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: Forte is a bit of a risk to see his

1255
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: numbers drop. I'm going to Lynch. I'm going Lynch all day, Goberts,

1256
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: that's all the explanation. I'm gonna go Lynch love beast mode.

1257
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: Fortete scares of the Jesus on of me. This see

1258
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: that new offense, Yes, that that has aged the other

1259
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: guys they brought in every all the above. I think

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01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: Adam Rake might be mad at you, Marcus Grant. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be the contrarian here. I'm gonna go with mad Forte. Yes,

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01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: he's not gonna catch a hundred and two passes, but

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01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: there's no real there's no real threat to take any

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01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: touches away from him. In that backfield, Lynch has to

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01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: deal with either Roberts Herban or Christin Michael stepping in

1266
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: for him. If you don't like Jeremy Langford and Jacqui

1267
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: was Rogers is actually a really good gass protector and

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: Forte is not. So we'll see you mean the same

1269
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: Robert Turbin and christ and Michael that Marshawn Lynch is

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01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: beat away with three years. Every time we're all like, oh,

1271
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: look out for Bobby Turbin or Kristen Michael and then

1272
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: just just four they didn't have the pass porte. They

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: just dump it off to him. When you know Cutler's

1274
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: in trouble, just here take it. Which is which is

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01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: all the time? By the way, George Matthews versus Brandon Cooks, Uh,

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01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Grant's tough. I'm gonna go with Brandon Cooks. I

1277
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: just I think the ceiling is is really high for him,

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: So I think he's going to be the number one.

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01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: I have Matthews number one, but I like Cooks to

1280
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: get more targets this year. Alex Jordan Matthews. I believe

1281
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: in Chip Kelly. Dude Jordan Matthews all day for me.

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01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: I said it, dude, Jordan all day. Matthews. Last year,

1283
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, limited time, limited opportunities. He had eight touchdowns.

1284
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: Let me come on. He's a big target, he's fast,

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: he's got great hands. He's the number one. There's no

1286
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin. I'm using too many sentences. That's the longest.

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: All right, Well, just you know, let's look at I

1288
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: like both guys, um, but let's look at it. Okay,

1289
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: opportunities might be the same. Uh or quarterback quarterback Drew

1290
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: Brides or Mark Si Jesse and Sam Bradford. No comparison,

1291
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: it's Cooks okay, No, Wow, Okay, I'm going Jordan's. So

1292
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: we were split on this one, all right, Greg Olsen

1293
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. I like this one. This one's an interesting one, Fabs,

1294
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: Let's start with you. I'm gonna go Olson, but I

1295
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: like Kelsey too. It's Olsen's gonna see targets Kelsey. But

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01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: it's either or it's not both. No, I like them both,

1297
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: but I'm going Olson. Okay, Yeah, he's thirty, Kelsey thirty.

1298
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: What there is thirty old? Flight to tight ends? It's

1299
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: isn't Antonio Gates take still effective as well? Um, I'm

1300
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: torn on this one. I'm gonna go I will go

1301
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey because I tend to go young players, So

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01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: I'll go Travis Kelsey. You like him young? Stop its

1303
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: Kelsey eight six or two yards last year, five touchdowns

1304
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: entering year number three years old. Just I'm going Travis Kelsey.

1305
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: When it comes to position like this, I'd kind of

1306
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,959
Speaker 1: rather go upside. I'm taking a tight end that plays

1307
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: with a quarterback who doesn't throw the ball more than

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01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: seven yards down the field. So Travis Kelsey for me,

1309
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: all right, very good, although I think Antonio Gates probably

1310
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: is the I don't know if he's he might be

1311
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: the exception to the rule. The old man rules there.

1312
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: Eli Manning matt Stafford. Manning forty yards, thirty touchdowns, four

1313
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,479
Speaker 1: teen picks. Last year Stafford yards twenty two touchdowns, twelve picks.

1314
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: He had a down here for sure. Who are we

1315
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: taking Eli Manning Matthew Stafford. I'm gonna go with yes, Stafford.

1316
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: It was tough, it was, you know. I think you

1317
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: know what and what wins out for me is having

1318
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: both Megatron and Golden Tape, especially what after after what

1319
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: Tate did last year versus h you know, Beckham versus

1320
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: who knows what Victor Cruz is gonna be? All Right, Alex,

1321
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm going Eli. Never thought, never thought I would say that.

1322
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: But Ben McAdoo offense, Shane Green, Otto, Beckham, Ruben Randall, whatever,

1323
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: cruzads a good situation. I think it's a second year

1324
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: under Macadoo's system. I think Eli Manning flourishes. I really

1325
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: like Eli Manning. I think he can crack into the

1326
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: top five. I've got him pegged as my number five

1327
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: quarterback this year. I really like him, and especially at

1328
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: the value the draft position that you're gonna be able

1329
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: to get him at. I really like Eli Manning. I'm

1330
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: going to Stafford. Do you like Stafford? Why do you

1331
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: like Stafford? Because I like him more than Eli Manning's Stafford. An, Yeah,

1332
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: I like it. Darren McFadden, Andre Ellington McFadden twenty seven

1333
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: years old, hundred fifty five carries last year, five yards

1334
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: to touchdown. Ellington, believe it or not, twenty six years old,

1335
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: two hundred carries, six hundred sixty yards last year, three touchdowns.

1336
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 1: He also added forty six catches and four hundred yards.

1337
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: He had a pretty he hadn't but despite all the injuries,

1338
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: he actually had an okay season last year. Uh. But again,

1339
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: Ellington or McFadden, Where are you going? McFadden is not

1340
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: even gonna be the starter. That's gonna be Joe Randall.

1341
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: It's Ellington. Um, I'm going to go. You know, can

1342
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: I pass? No? You cannot pass? All right, I'm gonna go. Uh,

1343
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Ellington again. He's got a little bit

1344
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: less tread on tires. Obviously. I think he is going

1345
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: to be healthy this year. Hopefully he doesn't deal with

1346
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: that foot problem all year like you did last year,

1347
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: and again, despite the injuries, he was actually an okay player, uh,

1348
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: an okay flex player last year. So I'll go Ellington

1349
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: this year. Uh, I think I'll go McFadden quick aside

1350
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: heavily abusing the semi colons you, I'll do what I want.

1351
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: I think. Um, I think it's gonna be close. I

1352
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: like Ellington, He's slid into the top twenty five running

1353
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: backs each of the last two years. But um, I

1354
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: gotta go with Darren mcfannon because why not. Yeah, I mean,

1355
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't figure I'm always oldline baby. Yeah, I see.

1356
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna be as one sided

1357
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: as you know fabs may believe it is. I I'm

1358
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna go Ellington, but I think mcfatten is gonna have

1359
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: a really good year. I just do think that Andrea

1360
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: Ellington is gonna be healthy and he's going to get

1361
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: the better into this one. Jarvis Landry Andre Johnson. Jarvis

1362
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: Landry seven fifty eight yards last year, five touchdowns. Johnson actually,

1363
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: surprisingly I don't know he had this many yards, but

1364
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: he had nine hundred thirty six, which doesn't sound like

1365
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: a lot, but it seemed like a lot for Andre

1366
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: Johnson three touchdowns, but he is now with Andrew Luck.

1367
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: Who do we like Landry Johnson? I'm gonna as much

1368
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: as I love Jarvis Landry and what I think the

1369
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: Dolphins can do. I'm going Andre Johnson partially because Andrew Luck,

1370
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: no doubt. You know what do you think, Wiz? I'm

1371
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: gonna say Jarvis Lander right now? Who's a man crush mine?

1372
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: Last year? Um, and I don't know. I just got

1373
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: a gut feeling on that one. I'm gonna go Andre Johnson.

1374
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: I really think this is gonna impact negatively. T Y Hilton.

1375
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: I know they picked up Philip Dorset as well in

1376
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: the draft. I think Andre Johnson becomes an awesome, awesome

1377
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: possession receiver. I love him in PPR this year, although

1378
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: the yardage probably won't be there as well. But Fabs,

1379
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 1: how about yourself? I'm going with a j uh. Typically

1380
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: I go with the younger player with more upside, But um,

1381
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of moths to feed in Miami and

1382
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson is probably gonna be on a mission this year.

1383
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: After a lot of people in Houston said that he

1384
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: was done and there's a lot of targets left over

1385
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: from Reggie Wayne's departure, so I think he sees plenty.

1386
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: And again, I mean the guy said it, Andrew luck Um.

1387
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: Last question, aunt Man. Who's gonna go see it? Not me? Yeah,

1388
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: not me. I'll go see it, but I don't even

1389
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: I've never even really heard of aunt Man. But it's

1390
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: a superhero thing, so I'm gonna go. You're gonna go. Yeah.

1391
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: I went to see watch Man and I've never heard

1392
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 1: of them before because it's read the book. The book

1393
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: is phenomenal. Movie was the best. Oh yeah, that the

1394
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: thing I remember most about it I can't say on

1395
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: the air. And it was disturbing that the whole way

1396
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: through aunt Man, Alex, are you about it? Moderately? Moderate, average, average,

1397
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: like it's it's marvel even at their worst. I think

1398
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: they're gonna better than a lot of other people. It's

1399
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: it's June, right, the countdown to Star Wars has begun.

1400
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: Pretty much all their movies don't matter pretty much. Look

1401
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: Star Wars to me, you know what my wife saw

1402
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 1: the trailer for, so we want to go see Age

1403
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: of Multron finally last weekend and uh, my wife saw

1404
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: the trailer for Star Wars. She's like, that doesn't look

1405
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: that great. I'm like, are we watching the same trailer?

1406
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Guys? That looks amazing, Guys,

1407
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: my need to go to a couple of slacks. It

1408
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: looks alright, Alright, I think that's gonna do it for us.

1409
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: Where's that music? At mean, you gotta cut me out

1410
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: of here. But alright, for Marcus Grant, Alex Gelhar, and

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01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: Michael Babion, I'm James call. Remember go to the website

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Fantasy Football, NFL dot com slash

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