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Speaker 1: up for Coast Insider. Now here's a highlight from Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast AM on iHeart Radio. Welcome back to Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast. L A Marzuli with us. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: Fatima and that incredible story that occurred a hundred years ago.

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Speaker 1: L A. We were talking about the story of the

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Speaker 1: sun and how many people witnessed this, and you're telling

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Speaker 1: us that a number of people came back around June

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Speaker 1: of nineteen seven of eighteen seventeen. Tell us what happened. Well,

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Speaker 1: in June, there was a handful of people that gathered

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Speaker 1: there and the entity showed up again. It was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Only the children that could see her Oi Lucia and

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Speaker 1: just sent to and Francisco could see the entity. O

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Speaker 1: Lucia and Jacinta could hear her speak. Francisco was not

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Speaker 1: able to see. He saw the entity but never heard

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Speaker 1: her speak. And it was always voice to Skulp, was

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Speaker 1: always telepathic. So in July the crowds was swelling um

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Speaker 1: and by the way, the crowd was swelling in July,

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Speaker 1: and it becomes extremely controversial the parish priest, father Fieria,

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Speaker 1: And what was interesting here a little cidebar quickly that

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Speaker 1: Fierira always believed right from the get go that the

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Speaker 1: whole thing was demonic, did not believe that whatever was

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Speaker 1: going on was Mary of the Bible um, and he was.

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Speaker 1: He was a controversial figure. So when he gives his

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Speaker 1: report after an exhaustive study and talking to the witness

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Speaker 1: that everything else and this is the report from seventeen

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Speaker 1: handwritten witnesses from May to October thirteenth. He goes St. George,

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Speaker 1: he falls off the face of the earth. No one

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Speaker 1: knows what happens to the guy. And we're actually trying

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Speaker 1: to find out what happened to him? Did he have

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Speaker 1: a family, you know, like a mother and father, cousins,

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Speaker 1: a brother and sister. We're trying to track it down

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Speaker 1: because that's the story in itself that's never been told.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely vanishes from history. But I digress. So here's

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Speaker 1: the deal. In September, this whole thing is getting controversial.

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Speaker 1: The parish priest is up in arms about the bishop,

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Speaker 1: the magistrates and its drawing all of these crowds. And

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Speaker 1: Lucia never says it's Mary. She says it's a lady.

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Speaker 1: And when she asked where did he where did she

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Speaker 1: come from? She pointed to the sky. That's all in

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Speaker 1: the nineteen seventeen documents uncovered by Fina Dermata in their

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Speaker 1: book Jewie Came for an End as the India Myers,

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Speaker 1: Celestia Lights, Heavenly Lights and their incredible books. If you

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Speaker 1: want to um, if you you know people want to

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Speaker 1: get them. We interviewed Julie kim Um and he comes

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Speaker 1: on the record in the film. So in September they

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Speaker 1: tell the kids the magic Stretch and the priests, they say,

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Speaker 1: her we need to sign, we need something to to

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Speaker 1: show that this is real. So the kids go back

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Speaker 1: and they say, look, you know, we need a sign

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Speaker 1: and the and the empathy cells come on October thirteenth

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Speaker 1: and there will be a sign. So words spreads like wildfire.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't have social media in those days. People

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Speaker 1: don't realize that in seventeen there are no cell phones.

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Speaker 1: The cameras that they have are wooden boxes with glass plates.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're looking at. There are no airplanes in Portugal,

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Speaker 1: maybe one in Lisbon. Probably the people in that field

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Speaker 1: when I'm getting ahead of myself here, But what's finally

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Speaker 1: manifest is shocking and there's no paradigm and where these

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Speaker 1: people can embrace it. So seventy thousand people gather in

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Speaker 1: kids are there. I mean seventy thousand people. That's huge

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Speaker 1: a huge crowd. It's a huge crowd. And we've got

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Speaker 1: and you can see it's the sea of umbrellas. It's

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Speaker 1: listened to the the show for decades, no, that cloud can

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Speaker 1: often hide objects. And and and and and Fatima too,

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Speaker 1: which is the sequel to the film. We interviewed Chase Cloudsky,

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Speaker 1: who's a UFO investigator and a good one. And Chase

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Speaker 1: and I have been in the field together, you know,

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Speaker 1: be used to hide the craft. And somehow these objects,

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Speaker 1: all from the nineteen seventeen documents. I'm not making it up.

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Speaker 1: It's the handwritten testimonies. Something an object comes out of

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Speaker 1: an access And as it's doing this, George, it's throwing

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Speaker 1: just a second. So it's spinning and then like a leaf,

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Speaker 1: and then it goes back up. It does this three

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Speaker 1: disc turned tan color and then descended so low that

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Speaker 1: I heard this this really weird sound. I don't know

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Speaker 1: and I even in Fatima to the sequel, I won't.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think based on the research.

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Speaker 1: This is what happens to Lucia, the other two seers

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Speaker 1: entity two years later she died of influenza. Francisco, same thing.

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Speaker 1: You know that. I know that, and it's very controversial.

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Speaker 1: And again we're not I might here trying to disparage

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Speaker 1: anyone's belief. If someone wants to believe that it was

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Speaker 1: none of this negates the belief of God. No, of course.

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Speaker 1: Look you know where I'm at. I mean, I'm a

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Speaker 1: I'm a believer, I mean I am, but I'm also

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Speaker 1: a frank supernaturalist. And the bottom line is, just because

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