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Speaker 1: All right, what's up? This is Michael Rapport. You are

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Speaker 1: now listening to the I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast. Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, this is gonna be a good one on

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Speaker 1: today's podcast. On today's brand new I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast,

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Speaker 1: we are discussing more about Savage Savage You Ain't Mother,

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Speaker 1: Teresa Duke. We're breaking down what the word boycott actually means.

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Speaker 1: Answers I need answers. Why didn't Todd Girlie play in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We have some fantastic sick Fox of

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Speaker 1: the Week plus special guest, the Big Daddy Cane. Big

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Speaker 1: Daddy Kane is rocking with me on the I Am

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Speaker 1: wrapp Reports Stereo podcast. We're talking about him writing songs

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Speaker 1: for Bis Markey. We're talking about how he got his start,

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Speaker 1: how famous he got, the making of some of his

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Speaker 1: best songs. He's also a huge Willie Hutch fan. That's right,

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Speaker 1: Miles Jordans, get that Willie Hutch ready, because Big Daddy

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Speaker 1: Cane is breaking down what he loves about the great

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Speaker 1: Willie Hutch and so much more with one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite rappers of all time. Dream list Podcasting with the

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Speaker 1: Big Daddy came coming up next, Miles Jordan's let me

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Speaker 1: get something real nice, some real proper, but most importantly

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Speaker 1: we got Big Daddy came here. Let me get something

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Speaker 1: real funky, all right, c I A Rapports stereo podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Kringle Mandingo a k A. Mr. White Folks,

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Speaker 1: a k A. The most excited podcaster on the planet

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Speaker 1: because bucket List podcast. As I mentioned earlier, somebody that

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Speaker 1: means so much to me. I mean a fucking true

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Speaker 1: blue star, a true blue icon, a true blue game changer.

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Speaker 1: I mean Big Daddy Kane is on the I M

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Speaker 1: Rappaport Stereo podcast, and Big Daddy Kane is He's like,

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Speaker 1: it's like Jimmy Hendrix. Okay, if you don't really know,

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Speaker 1: um his influence, it's as impactful as Jimmy Hendrix had

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Speaker 1: on rock and roll, or as impactful as Jimi Hendrix

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Speaker 1: had on guitar playing. When there's there's a few guys, okay,

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Speaker 1: and and I'm not gonna go over each one of them,

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Speaker 1: but there's a few guys who when they came out, um,

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Speaker 1: they redefined what was being defined daily In the early

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Speaker 1: golden era of hip hop, when the m C had

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Speaker 1: be completely unique, when the MC had to be one

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Speaker 1: of one, when the m C had to be saying something, uh,

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Speaker 1: whether he was talking ship, whether it was gangster ship,

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Speaker 1: whether it was positive ship, he had to be saying something.

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Speaker 1: There was no room for anything else. And Big Daddy

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Speaker 1: Came came in like a fucking lightning bolt when he

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Speaker 1: dropped his voice, the style, the flow, the cadence what

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Speaker 1: he was saying, the sense of humor, the consciousness, you know,

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Speaker 1: the sex, the sex appeal, the pimpant like. He's just

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Speaker 1: a complete original um. And I've said this many times.

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Speaker 1: Without Big Daddy came, there would be no Jay z Okay.

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Speaker 1: He's the consummate Brooklyn mc um and he's definitely somebody.

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Speaker 1: The first podcast I ever recorded, when I was going

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Speaker 1: through the names of people that I dreamed of having

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Speaker 1: on Your Big Daddy Came was one of them. So

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Speaker 1: having him on today's episode of the podcast UH is

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Speaker 1: just I'm just a kid in a candy store and

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time coming. It's only the second

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Speaker 1: time I met Kane Uh. The first time I met him,

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Speaker 1: I was with my man Toby Morris, and I was

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Speaker 1: literally like, oh, ship, there's a Big Daddy cane Like.

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Speaker 1: It was like as if I saw the real life

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Speaker 1: Spider Man or some ship like that. And I, you know,

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Speaker 1: I told him this since I was fawning and stuttering

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Speaker 1: on and he gave me his card. My man had

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Speaker 1: a car. This is about ten years ago. He had

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Speaker 1: a card and it's a Big Daddy came and it

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Speaker 1: course this cool ass motherfucker would have a card that

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Speaker 1: said Big Daddy came in the phone number because he's

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Speaker 1: Am Wrapper Wor Stereo podcast. Is my pleasure and truly,

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Speaker 1: I don't say this a lot, my honor to have

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Speaker 1: the great, one of the greatest of all time, one

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Speaker 1: of the most influential of all time. Big Daddy came

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Speaker 1: on the I Am Wrapp Reports Stereo podcast. So last

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Speaker 1: night after the Super Bowl, we dropped an emergency post

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Speaker 1: it's pure fire every single time. That's just the way

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Speaker 1: it is. On last night's premium primetime Emergency Iron Rap

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Speaker 1: top three Jew with Jesus Christ, Albert Einstein, Julian Edelman

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Speaker 1: in no particular order. And uh, we broke down the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We broke down halftime. I'm not repeating that.

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Speaker 1: I ain't repeating all that, Duke, Okay, download the Apple

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Speaker 1: listen to the episode. It was gorgeous. The only thing

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Speaker 1: Stereo podcast in regards to the Super Bowl, is this

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Speaker 1: a lot of people out here complaining about the game, uh,

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Speaker 1: saying it was boring, saying it was this, saying it

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Speaker 1: was that, And I say, turn the fucking game off.

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Speaker 1: Motherfucker's that said it was boring. Do not watch football

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Speaker 1: all season long. Everybody, including myself, was saying the league

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Speaker 1: has become too offensive heavy, the defense is at a disadvantage.

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Speaker 1: The Super Bowl comes out and the defense on both

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Speaker 1: teams shines. Yes, everybody would like to see more points.

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Speaker 1: But if you're a football fan, this is just a

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Speaker 1: normal game. These things happen. Sometimes it's a defensive game.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady didn't play his best. The Los Angeles Rams

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Speaker 1: defense played very, very very well. Jared Goff didn't play

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Speaker 1: his best. The New England Patriot defense was ridiculous, stunting

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Speaker 1: plays on the defensive side. And if you're out there

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Speaker 1: complaining saying it was boring, go watch Dancing with the

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Speaker 1: fucking Stars. Turn it off, Turn the fucking game off.

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Speaker 1: Go on the E channel and watch reruns of Botched.

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Speaker 1: Watch Motherfucker's get face lifts and ass lifts and get

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Speaker 1: tip jobs fixed up on Botch. Turn the game off.

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Speaker 1: You're not a real fan. It's a football game. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing you can predict. Yes, everybody thought it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be more high scoring, but it wasn't a boring game.

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Speaker 1: Every single play mattered. Even though it was a low

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Speaker 1: scoring game, it was a tight game. You don't like it,

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Speaker 1: go watch reruns of Friends Cornball. You're not a football fan.

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Speaker 1: You're mad because Maroon five was whack. You're mad because

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Speaker 1: Travis Scott was out there and we no one could

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Speaker 1: understand a fucking word. The guy was saying, nobody could

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Speaker 1: let my guy, big boy from out Cast, come out there,

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Speaker 1: in and out. It's a nice gesture, but you know

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Speaker 1: it was what it was. Duke from Maroon fives out there,

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Speaker 1: chest naked, What is with his with his whole ship

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Speaker 1: shaved and waxed down to the bone. It was trash.

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Speaker 1: You saying, move like Jagger. Motherfucker was just watching the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl hoping that Christina Aguilara would come out. Aguilara

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Speaker 1: didn't come out, and you're disappointing. Turn the game off.

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Speaker 1: It's not for you. All season long, we've been complaining,

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Speaker 1: so you didn't get a high scoring game. You don't

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Speaker 1: like it. I don't know what to tell you. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the funk to tell you. I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the game thoroughly. I was engaged thoroughly. It wasn't a blowout.

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Speaker 1: Shut your fucking mouth. You're not a football fan to

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Speaker 1: begin with. The only thing that I don't understand is

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Speaker 1: what happened with Todd Gurley. Since the game, Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: not Todd Gurley the best running back in the NFL

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Speaker 1: If he wasn't the best running back, he's He's definitely

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Speaker 1: the season is over, confirmed yes, he was hurt. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it is. Because if I'm the owner of the Los

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Speaker 1: You're trying to ingratiate yourself. Let's not forget the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams have only been the Los Angeles Rams for

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Speaker 1: three seasons. Those games are not sold out. You go

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Speaker 1: to a Los Angeles Rams game versus the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 1: building a new stadium. Duke, you made it to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Who cares he now? Hard it is to

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Speaker 1: get back to the super Bowl? Asked the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 1: other year is the fucking Patriots. This Rams team, you know,

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Speaker 1: you never know what could happen. An injury here, an

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Speaker 1: need answers otherwise. I know it sounds radical. I say,

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Speaker 1: fire Shan McVeigh, but yeah, I said, yeah, we fire

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Speaker 1: a fan. I want to know. People are up in

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Speaker 1: don't know what the funk. It was some something that

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Speaker 1: and Meek Mill, and it was some corporate gig to

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Speaker 1: raise funds or consciousness for their prison reform, a program

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Speaker 1: which I support. I think it's fantastic. But Cardi B,

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Speaker 1: you said you were boycotting the super Bowl, and so

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Speaker 1: many other people out there said they were boy cotting

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Cardi B performed at a Super Bowl event.

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Speaker 1: I could careless get all the money, Cardi B. And

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Speaker 1: it's not even you, maybe somebody around you need to

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Speaker 1: explain exactly what boycotting means. And this isn't even specifically it,

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Speaker 1: Cardi B. It's to everybody that sits there with their

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Speaker 1: arm with Cap Jersey. Listen, if you're with Cap and

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Speaker 1: you're really about that boycotting life, look the fucking word up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: putting on an arm with Cap Jersey, we're putting it

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Speaker 1: on with Cap thing at your super Bowl party is

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Speaker 1: not really being with Cap. Only you know, the only

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Speaker 1: people who I could say for sure we're really about

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Speaker 1: that boycott Amy Sure, she said she wasn't with it.

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Speaker 1: She she turned down things. She didn't watch the game.

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Speaker 1: She laid low Cap himself. And the New Orleans Saints

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Speaker 1: fans they know, but they were in boycotting, were Cap.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I'm skating. I'm straight skating. But boycotting, okay,

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Speaker 1: You're either boycotting or you're not boycotting. There's not halfway boycotting,

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Speaker 1: about five years now. You should have been handled that ship.

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Speaker 1: the rappers ratting everybody out, and you use so thugg

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Speaker 1: as shruggers. But we're gonna see how you get down now, duke.

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Speaker 1: We are going to see how you get down now, Duke.

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Speaker 1: How do we know that Takashi six nine didn't rat

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Speaker 1: what do I get for seven? She's like, well what

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Speaker 1: from Atlanta. Oh, we'll take three months off your sentence.

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Speaker 1: That'll get you three months. That's all we could do.

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Speaker 1: So they bagged his ass up. Listen, this guy is

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Speaker 1: not a martyr. He'll be fine in and out. You

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Speaker 1: motherfucking scooter or walk get on some who's saying boltshit

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Speaker 1: I don't funk with that ship. My paperwork is tight

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Speaker 1: bag you Atlanta. You're You're lucky this shoudn't happening in London.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about his music. I've heard him

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Speaker 1: wrap before, and I'll say this from the bottom of

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Speaker 1: I'm give funk that he got a tattoo on his forehand.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying as far as skills, he's not dope, okay,

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Speaker 1: Because when it comes to sports, if you're not good

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Speaker 1: When it comes to acting, if you're not good, people

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Speaker 1: he's he's whack. Period. If a guy's a bum and

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Speaker 1: a funk about any of the mumble they ship it.

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Speaker 1: Debubba that ship. If you bubba bubba, uh gumble Bubba

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Speaker 1: Stereo podcast, that's a different level of ship. That's the

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Speaker 1: Stereo podcast. So the Kris Stop porzingis podcast that we

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Speaker 1: changing Iron Wrap Pors stereopodets. And I appreciate everybody support

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Speaker 1: they're in control of all basketball operations. Kris stop Porzingis

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Speaker 1: He don't have the fucking the fucking stones we could

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Speaker 1: see here. We know everything that the Knicks has done

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Speaker 1: wrong in all that ship, but you're a bitch ass motherfucker, okay,

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Speaker 1: And after that bitch ass, tall, lanky, goofy motherfucker left

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Speaker 1: he put out a tweet of him and Luca donkk

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Speaker 1: donkey is that his fucking name? The young rookie on

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Speaker 1: The trade went down on Friday, or the the it

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Speaker 1: language you want to do it. We treated this goofball

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Speaker 1: the first thing you tweet out, you dumb goofy, broken ankle,

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Speaker 1: gimp cocksucker, is you slapping five the night before with

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Speaker 1: your new teammate. You run like a brittle old piece

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Speaker 1: of shit. Okay, you, we don't know when you're gonna

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Speaker 1: play again. You missed a hundred games. You suck? Are you?

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Speaker 1: We treated you like gold? Now when you come. And

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Speaker 1: oh the second thing, this big goofy motherfucker did two

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Speaker 1: days after the trade while he was in he's already

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Speaker 1: a Dallas maverick. This goofy cock sucker on Instagram put

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Speaker 1: out and I quote, the city deserves better than that.

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Speaker 1: My suggestions for Nick fans is to stay awoke, peace, duke.

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Speaker 1: We don't need any suggestions for you. The suggestion that

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Speaker 1: you need to take is go to German. You get

418
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: yourself pumped up with some new blood cells. Homie, your

419
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: body don't work. You're twenty three. You're running around the

420
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: garden like you're seventy six years old. Don't We don't

421
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: need advice from you, you feel me, We don't need

422
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: advice from you. Listen to your punk as brother. Okay, okay,

423
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: tap your motherfucking ankles up and Hopefully you'll be back

424
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: on the court at some point next season. And if

425
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: and when you do make it to Madison Square Garden,

426
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: if you're healthy, that game okay, because we never know

427
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: what to expect with your health and your twenty three homie,

428
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: you're twenty three years old. You've missed over a hundred games, duke,

429
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: and you're talking out of pocket. But when you come

430
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: back to the garden, rest ashore camerine or shine me

431
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: one way or another. Even if I have to break

432
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: my biggest rule as a Knicks fan, which is never

433
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: ever ever buy tickets, always get hooked up with some tickets.

434
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Even if I have to buy one solo ticket to

435
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: sit on the wood, I will be there talking way

436
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: the funk out of pocket to you. Oh yes, you

437
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: think that little bullshit that happened with Spike Lee and

438
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller was bad. I'm gonna be talking all the

439
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: way greasy to you. And whether or not you understand me,

440
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: that's on you money. But you're talking all that fly ship,

441
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: talking about stay woke. Hopefully that that tells me you

442
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: understand the English language. Well, we're gonna see if you

443
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: understand the gringo man Dingle because I kicked that good

444
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: ship and I will be there. I will be there

445
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: live and in person, and if I could arrange it nicely,

446
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: it'll be me an oak. I s grilling you, Duke,

447
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: like what's good? Every time you get the bull, We're booing,

448
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: We're screaming when you run by me. I'm cursing under

449
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: my breath. Pot cast pitch ass motherfucker the funk out

450
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: of New York. That's That's what I'm doing talking about.

451
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: Stay woke. We deserve better, Yeah, we we We deserve

452
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: better than a twenty three year old who missed a

453
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: hundred games, That's what the funk. We deserve better than

454
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: goofball podcast? What else is going on? I'm way behind

455
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: on sick Fox of the Week. I know that I

456
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: gotta pick up the pace on that. You know, last

457
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: week's uh fucking poursing his podcast on Thursday just threw

458
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: everything out of whack. And again, I seriously think that

459
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: I might have busted blood vessel doing that now classic podcast. Um,

460
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: but I got a couple of sick funds that I'm

461
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna throw at you real quick. Miles Jordan, Please let

462
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: me get the sick funk of the Week music. Yes, Yes,

463
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: this is the sick Funk of the Week segment, an

464
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: award winning segment of the I M Rapp Reports Stereo podcast.

465
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: The sick Funk of the Week is an award that

466
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: des are not given earned, oh but not giving. It

467
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: goes out to a certain sick funk with a certain

468
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: how do you say, as the French say, it's a

469
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: geness aqua in Queens. This is a very disturbing, very

470
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: very very upsetting sick funk who's on the run in Queens. Oh,

471
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: actually it happened in Williamsburg, uh, Brooklyn. The young lady

472
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: is from Queens. A beautiful girl, thirty one year old

473
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: girl named Dana Saghana, was on her way to volunteer work.

474
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: This girl is a librarian. She was on her way

475
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: to volunteer work and as you could tell from the picture,

476
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: she's very pretty. A man came up to her, was

477
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: flirting with her, and he said he was gonna marry her. Now, listen,

478
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: if you're a beautiful girl in New York, you get

479
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of dumb motherfucker's talking that bullshit all the time.

480
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: This cocksucker said, uh, he wanted to marry her. He

481
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: says she was pretty, and then asked her she was scared.

482
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: She said no. Then he grabbed her by the neck,

483
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: whipped out a box cutter a razor blade and cut

484
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: this beautiful girl's face, sliced her from the bottom of

485
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: her eye to the bottom of her cheekbone, and ran off.

486
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: This is a real true blue sick fuck. Fortunately this

487
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: young lady, nice girl, she's a librarian. She was on

488
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: her way to do a volunteer work. Fortunately she will

489
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: just have this scar on her face, which I'm sure

490
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: we'll heal up. And she's so pretty that I'm sure

491
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: she'll be just fine. She's one of these just beautiful

492
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: looking people. If you're in New York City, you know,

493
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: if you're a woman, people say ship to you. But

494
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: this sick funck is on the loose. The man is

495
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: described as unkept Latino in his fifties. He's on the loose.

496
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: She was standing on the corner, bleeding and obviously stunned,

497
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: and Uber picked her up. They took her to the

498
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: hospital where she was stitched up. But this cocksuckers all

499
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: on the loose. Put an a p B for the

500
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: sick fuck in Williamsburg. He's fifty something with a medium build,

501
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: bummy ass, clothes and Latino. Not very specific, but this

502
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: is the this is the report that she put out.

503
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: Her name is Dana Sagano, poor girl. Thank god, she's

504
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: all right. But he is a sick funck of the

505
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: loose right now, right now in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. The next

506
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: sick funck of the week is this bum Virginia Governor

507
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: Ralph Northam, yo Yo. He's a sick funck. But this

508
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: this dude right here is he's wild. Um. There was

509
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: pictures that we fast of him from the eighties of

510
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: Duke in jet black face. My man had on black

511
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: shoe polish on his face. He was straight up on

512
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: some minstrel show. Ship. There's a picture of him dressed

513
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: next to a guy in a clue Klux Klan robe

514
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: some sort of sick costume party, some sort of racial

515
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: some sort of racist Halloween party. Duke is in a

516
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: full black face. There's a picture of him next to

517
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: a guy in a clue Klux Klan robe on some

518
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: on some ha ha Saturday night party. Ship. Money gave

519
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: a press conference and came out and said, no, this

520
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: wasn't black face. This, this wasn't black face. I was

521
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: dressed as Michael Jackson. And not only was he dressed

522
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: as Michael Jackson. At the time, he said he was

523
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: a big fan of Michael Jackson's and at the time

524
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: he also said he could moon walk in his press conference.

525
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: It looked like at one point he was gonna show

526
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: everybody that he could moonwalk. Duke, you can't. Milwaukee wasn't

527
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: dressed like Michael Jackson. You ain't moonwalking. What's with the

528
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: black face fetish? Why are there's so many people dressed

529
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: in fucking black face? I don't understand it. Next, six

530
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: Fox family from Detroit was kicked off an American Airlines

531
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: flight after passengers complained about the odor of the entire family.

532
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: My man, I think he's an Orthodox Jew. His name

533
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: is Yosi, his wife, Genie, and their baby. We're finishing

534
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: up their vacation in Miami heading back to Detroit. When

535
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: they were or escorted off the flight, people were saying, yo,

536
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's smell like ship. Passengers were saying they smelled

537
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: like ship. Flight attendants was saying they will smell like ship.

538
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: They filed a complaint. They had to walk the whole

539
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: crew off. The family. It wasn't just the father, It

540
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: wasn't just the mother, It wasn't just the kid. Was

541
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: the whole crew. Takes one to know one flocks of

542
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: shitty motherfucker's uh seagulls whatever? You know that one that

543
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: flocks of seagulls blah blah blah. The whole crew smell

544
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: like ship. That had to kick the whole crew off

545
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: the plane. I know it's embarrassing, but take a fucking shower,

546
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: duke yo, the whole family needs to take a hot

547
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: shower together. Well, my kids were young, we used to

548
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: bathe together. I loved it. I looked forward to it.

549
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: When I was a little kid, I used to bathe

550
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: with my pops. Okay, wash your whole crew. Your wife

551
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: smells like shit. You smell like ship, and consequently, your

552
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: little man, your son, smells like ship. Fund Does that

553
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: matter with you? Brooklyn sick fucking pimp Antoine Green. He's

554
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: a pimp. He's a sick fucking pimp. He was arrested

555
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: and sentenced a couple of days ago for running a

556
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: prostitution ring with teenage hookers. Antoine Green, the pimp pimping

557
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: Antoine Green got eight years in jail. They don't like

558
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: pimps and jail. Duke, you look like from the picture

559
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: I see that you think you bout it. We're gonna

560
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: see if you're bouted in jail. How do we know

561
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: that one of those prisoners in the cell that you're

562
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: gonna be with wasn't one of the young teenage girls

563
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: that you were pimping. So you know what that means.

564
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna be the bitch. You're gonna be the prostitute.

565
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the one that's given up sex against

566
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: his will. Duke, that good old wonder bread bag and

567
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: olive oil treatment, that's what you're getting pimping Antoine Green

568
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. You got eight years to think about what

569
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: the funk he was doing, your nasty pimp cock suck?

570
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: Are you all right? And finally, Liam Neeson, you sick?

571
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: Fuck you, you old piece of ship. Uh. Liam Neeson

572
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: said this after Uh it was he was discussing an

573
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: old friend of his on The Ireland's Late Late Show. Um,

574
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: he said, um, And he was discussing a friend of

575
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: his that got raped. Unfortunately, uh it happened to be

576
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: by a black guy. Um and he said in response

577
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: to this, when it was brought up. He said this.

578
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: I asked, did did you know? I wasn't known what

579
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: color are they? She said it was a black person.

580
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: I have an open down in the areas with a cash,

581
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: hoping i'd be h approved by someone. I'm ashamed to

582
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: say that, and I did it for maybe a week,

583
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: hoping song black bastard would come. I have a pub

584
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: and have a good of me. Have I something you know,

585
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: so that I could kill him? Okay, Liam Neeson, this

586
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: is not really taking duke. Uh, you're not really in

587
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: a movie, Duke. You're not in cold pursuit. You just

588
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: fucked yourself up. Now listen, they let this cock sucker

589
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: Mel Gibson back in show business. They're gonna let your

590
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: old dumbass back in there too. But that's that old

591
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Irish dumb ship or as he's Scottish. I don't know.

592
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't care. But Liam Neeson, congratulations, you just became

593
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: a sick fuck of the week. All right, without further ado,

594
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: the Great Big Daddy Kane is up next with me

595
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: on the I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast. Pardon my stuttering,

596
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597
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,919
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598
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622
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Speaker 1: The first time I did the podcast, I went through

623
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624
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625
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Speaker 1: So I mean, seriously, this is a fucking honor like you. You,

626
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: you were, you're You're such a part of my my,

627
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: my life. Waitnut, I'm on a list with Bird and

628
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: de Niro, Bird, de Niro, Ca, you're on that list.

629
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: We we let let Big Daddy Kane live. Let the

630
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: Big Father live, all right. I just want to say,

631
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you mean so much to me. I saw

632
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: you perform in eighties six at Union Square when you

633
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: were back up for BIZ. I saw you perform eight

634
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: seven Latin Quarters when you were still before you were

635
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: going so long. You're so influential. I've talked about you

636
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: so much. I got tons of questions. I broke rule

637
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: number one of the Iron Rap Coors Stereo podcast, which is,

638
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: don't fact check, ain't no fact checking, which we we

639
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: we actually we did, ain't no half step and we

640
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: made ain't no fact checking. So my first question, I'm

641
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: a up around and some questions. I hope you've never

642
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: answered some questions I know you've answered before. My first

643
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: question is when did Antonio Hardy become the Big Daddy King? Um, well,

644
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: Antonio Hardy became an m C and eighty two and

645
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: you were like fourteen, Uh, let's yeah, thirteen fourteen somewhere here. Um,

646
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: but that's when I became an m C and Um

647
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: I was originally calling myself Tony t you know. And

648
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: then um, I think maybe like around eighty four, I

649
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: switched it to mc kane. Yeah, I switched it to

650
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: mc kane and then Big Daddy probably like the following Yet,

651
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: like eighty five I started using eighty five minute and

652
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: the Moniker Kane King asiatic nobody's equal was that where

653
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: it was from? Like where did the King come from? First?

654
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Initially Kane originally came from David Carraedeen um uh Kung

655
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: Fu TV show like that was like something like people

656
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: would call me Um Caine or Young Grasshopper or Bruce

657
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: Lee because you know we'd be outside, you know, playing tag, Coke, Olivio,

658
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: red Light, green Light whatever, and you know Kung Fu Theater.

659
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: Come on the three o'clock on Saturday or one o'clock

660
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You gotta find somebody else. I mean, I'm

661
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm inside. It could be in the middle of the game,

662
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: you know. Eight, I'm going inside to watch karate booths.

663
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Today they go Young Grasshopper, they go Cane, and I

664
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: thought that the cane one was the best you know

665
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: to use um all right, So you said you became

666
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: an m C eighty two. When you look back at

667
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: it's a long time now and you've been through so much,

668
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: You've accomplished so much in regards to hip hop and

669
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: your mind tight three. When you said you became an

670
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: m C, what was around you that was inundating you,

671
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: that wanted you to become an m C? And what

672
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: were what were you? I mean, you're a kid fourteen

673
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: years old. What were you like as an m C? Then?

674
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, everybody rhymes, everybody played ball, everybody

675
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: did something, but like, what was it for you. That

676
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: was like I want to do this well like originally

677
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: like um, like late seventies going into the eighties. Um,

678
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: I think I was trying to DJ. First. I had

679
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: written rhymes for my cousin, um Nicole. She was calling

680
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: herself NICKI B I was writing her rhymes. This is

681
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty, but it wasn't something that I wanted

682
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: to do. You know. Then around two uh, somebody broken

683
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: my grandmother crib and stole store my turntables, so you

684
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: know I didn't have access to you know that former

685
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: hip hop no more? You know where I can do it?

686
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: And my cousin, UM do older cousin I looked up

687
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: to name Murdoch. He started them seeing he was someone

688
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: I looked up to idolize. He always took me to

689
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: the deuce see the Karate flicks. So it was like

690
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: he A'm seeing then I want to do it too,

691
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: and he, you know, told me that I was too young.

692
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: And he was rapping with these other two dudes, um

693
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: Owing and U s K. So I started off writing

694
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: battle rhymes, saying to myself, if I can beat you know,

695
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: Spence and Owen, he'll put me down with him. So

696
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: I started writing battle rhymes. Everything I wrote was a

697
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: battle rhymes. And I went and battle Spence. Um. I asked,

698
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: oh for a battle. He told me I didn't want it.

699
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: I'm a little kid walking the whole block behind him,

700
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: walking behind him, just spitting, and everybody else like oh.

701
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: And you know that's when I started taking it serious.

702
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: You know that's that's dope, all right. And then Sarah J. Hill,

703
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: my man Cliff Love went there. I know you talked

704
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: about it. Sarah J. Hill was a wild fucking school

705
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn Cliffs in seventh grade, right yeah, seventeen yeah,

706
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: so right before in junior high school, right j yeah? Alright, So,

707
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: so what was going on in Sarah J. Hill? The

708
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: BIS market connection to Mr C connection which people don't

709
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: give him enough credit in terms of mr C because

710
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: Mr C you'r DJ, MISSR the C winds up DJ

711
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: and for big Like, what was going on in Sarah J. Hale?

712
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: What's the bis market connection breakdown that whole ship? Okay? Well, Um,

713
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: when I was in Sarah J. At that point in time, um,

714
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: um mc cane becoming Big Daddy Kane, and I basically

715
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: had battled pretty much everybody in the school, and this

716
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: is just in Brooklyn. Well, I mean I batted a

717
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: lot of people in UM in Queens and Manhattan as well,

718
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: but really, you know, really you know my hood in Brooklyn,

719
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: but in the school, I pretty much battled all the

720
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: top m c s. So it was like I was

721
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: that known dude where people come to my classroom, you know,

722
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: knock on the glass and go like this, you know,

723
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: let me know you're somebody here. So because there's people

724
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: coming from Western House, Eastern District, UM, Brooklyn Tech, all

725
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: types of different schools, they would come up there to battle.

726
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: So I go outside, air somebody out and then come

727
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: back in. So it was like it was like it

728
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I was that dude in school.

729
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: So a friend of mine named Austin, he came to

730
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: me and said, yo, I just battled this dude, and

731
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: the lunch for him he got me, but I told him,

732
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: I bet you you know you can't funk with came.

733
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: He was like, go get him. So we went back

734
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: and I battled the dude and as soon as I

735
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: spent one bar, he said, yeah, I'm just working around.

736
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm not an m C man, I'm really a DJ man.

737
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: My name is mr C. I got like a crew

738
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 1: that DJ fur I was spitting one of the rhymes,

739
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: but I'm really not an m C. But yo, you dope,

740
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: you should get down with our crew. And I got

741
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: down with his crew to Magna for us, and you know,

742
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: you at point in time, you know, at some point

743
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: in time, you know, they pretty much all dispersed and

744
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: it was just really me and C. But then C

745
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: started rocking with this dude named Eric D who was

746
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: throwing a lot of big parties in Brooklyn, bringing artists

747
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: like Ducky Fresh, Salt and Pepper um Um and so

748
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: many others to perform. You know, it was popping. This

749
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: is when Dougg and Rick had to show out. Salt

750
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: and Pepper was out. Uh. Joski loved the pee Wee Herman. Yeah,

751
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: he was bringing all these people to Brooklyn to perform

752
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: and letting a lot of local m sees open up

753
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: for for them. You know. So she was rocking with

754
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: him doing this thing. And then one day, um, the

755
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: same girl Nick that I was writing for, Nicole her

756
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time, who used to always tell me

757
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: about this dude named bis Markey D. And he was like, yo,

758
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: he and alb squid more right. Now, you know, he

759
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: just was doing a beatbox doing numbers. I'm like, you

760
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: know what, I'm so sick are you're talking? Were he in?

761
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: And now all right, let's go see him, but dig

762
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: this when I eat his ass up. From now one

763
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: you'd be going to go to your man Bis and

764
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: telling about mc kane, all right. So we went in there.

765
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: I asked Bis for a battle. We battled. After the battle,

766
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: BIS was like, yo, you do you do? Because we

767
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: were doing lyrical stuff and then this saw that you

768
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: know that was you know, he wasn't, so he switched

769
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: it to funny rhymes about girls, and then I was

770
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: kicked the funny rober boy the girl. You remember any

771
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: of your ship from back then, like your early ship.

772
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: Not not this dude though at all. He's like a

773
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: fucking encyclopedia right for real. But after the battle, you know,

774
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, you dope, you should get down

775
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: with me. I'll be doing shows in halem M the

776
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: Bronx Long Island. I guarantee you if you get down

777
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: with me, I'm gonna get your record deal. And he

778
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: was a man his word, you know, he made it

779
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: happen and when he said record do were you even

780
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: like you how holding like fifteen, sixteen seventeen, probably by

781
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen. So when he's thinking, he's say, a record deal,

782
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: You're fifteen? Are you even thinking like I want to

783
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: do this with my life? Like like because hip hop

784
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: at the time, which which people forget, it's not like

785
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: the way it is today, this attainable thing, like there

786
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: were so few stars. It was cool J that was

787
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: run DMC before use Grandmaster Flash and all that ship,

788
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: Like are you what are you thinking like a record deal?

789
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: Are you thinking like I'm gonna become rich? Like in

790
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: your head as a kid, what does that mean to you? Honestly,

791
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: I wasn't even really you know, thinking that far at

792
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: the time. At that point in time, I just wanted

793
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: to be recognized as the dopest MC. And when Biz

794
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: was talking about or this record deal stuff, you know,

795
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if you know bis you know business crazy

796
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: like bisiness. Um, you know, it was like he probably

797
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: had did a show with Roxane Shanta opening up for

798
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Lilo Thomas and bills come back around the way like yeah,

799
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: I just got off tour with Lilo Thomas, you know,

800
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: So it was like in my mind, it wasn't that

801
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: realistic until Biz actually made it and I was like wow.

802
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: And then you know, he came back and got me,

803
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, because it was like, you know, he came

804
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: to me with to make the music idea and said

805
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: he wanted me to write it, and I'm like, whoa,

806
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: whoa you beat box and I rhum, don't you mean

807
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: you want me to write the rum that I'm gonna

808
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: say about you making the music and then you make

809
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: the music with your mouth? And BIS said, okay, Kane,

810
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: I've never seen him again. I don't know who he

811
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: went to or whatever, but you know, I never seen

812
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: him again. And then he got on with the Jewics

813
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: Crew and came back and got me, and you know,

814
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: told me about that nobody beats the big concept and yeah,

815
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: I need something. It's like sucka see and you know,

816
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: and you know from near there's no looking back, yes

817
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: y'all to the like you can't even damn. So just

818
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: sat a sea and listen to the laga while I

819
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: am playing a different kind of wrapper language that I

820
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: am saying to all the parties in probatic l one

821
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: of them to rocking parties. I am him for brainiact,

822
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: brainiact for two of my Dancer, I can make the

823
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: music and a transcending all right, you suck them up,

824
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: You're suck them up right up what you like without

825
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: taking credit because you wrote four bisiness it's documented, or

826
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: without like, you know, discrediting biz. Can you say, like,

827
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: what is there something specific that people for me that

828
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: you wrote for bids that you're like, yeah, I had

829
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: my hand in that, Like what songs or what parts

830
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: of songs? Can you say like yeah, without you know,

831
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: without disrespecting him or taking credit because it's open that

832
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: you were writing for him. What are the songs that

833
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: you had your your hate, your fingerprints all over. I

834
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: think Vapors was probably the the main one that sticks,

835
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: like picking Bookers in a way as well, because it

836
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: was something I didn't want to do and didn't quite

837
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: understand how I'm supposed to do it, you know, like

838
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to write about? I don't know

839
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: anything about picking book is just somewhere in there, just

840
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: say hey, mom was for dinner, you know. So it's

841
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: like and I would never think about writing a song

842
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: called picking booker. So that was a challenge. But the

843
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: Vapors I think was the most interesting because it's like

844
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: sitting with cool V like, yo, whoever shipped it on you?

845
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: And you know you like really got that payback? You know,

846
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: like no, no, now they're kissing your ass like you know,

847
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: like you know, and it's like I'm actually hearing people's stories,

848
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, this happened. I'm

849
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: hearing people tell these his stories and then putting their

850
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: life into a rhyme. My mind, I'm not talking about

851
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: me putting their life into a rhyme. I was like, Yo,

852
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: this is dope. I'm feeling like Quincy Jones right now.

853
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: You all no Tjus Swan, who's saying all my ratords

854
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: make the music, nobody beats the best? Well check it

855
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: back in the day before this weekend. He used to

856
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: trying to talk to this girl, their friend, the type

857
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: of female with fly whose you with? What big trunk

858
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: jewelry and the senses in the hell, what's go on?

859
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: Trying to kick it? She always best talking about baby

860
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: please you work for ups. Simply wasn't no type of

861
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: big drug dealer. My man Jesus wants it in appeals

862
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 1: to hust But now he truck scolding within five valley boots,

863
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: but the fashion and touch so soon now she stopped

864
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: trunking and wants to speak and becoming to all the

865
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: shows every single weekend to get it deeper. Number. She

866
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: be begging, please, dying for the day to get skis.

867
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: She's gonna to pay. So when you were, when you

868
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: were doing when those those joints, you would like actually

869
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: physically write it down, you would talk to them, physically

870
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: write it down and then hand it to him and

871
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: then be like the flows like this like that. Um,

872
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: a lot of times Bis you know would come up

873
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: with the with the flow, you know, like Bis already

874
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: had in his mind what he wanted, you know, got

875
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: you you know, um like you know, nobody beats the BIS.

876
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: That's bars all day, like you know, say it like

877
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, he just that's how he you know, spent

878
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: the flow and um, you know, so a lot of

879
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: times he already knew you know, even when um uh

880
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: just finding with Bis, he was like, yeah, I need

881
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: something like a tip tip top. You know, you know

882
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,959
Speaker 1: he knew um. All right, So your first song, what's

883
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: the first time you recorded? As Big Daddy came, walk

884
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: me through every single thing you remember what what's the

885
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: first joint that Big Daddy came recorded? Okay, well, I

886
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: had been to Molly Crib like maybe like twice with

887
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: BIZ and this is in Queens in Queen's Bridge, no story. Okay,

888
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: Oh he had moved out of Queen's Bread. Yeah he

889
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: was in the story. Ed, Okay, I've been to Molly

890
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: Crib about twice with BIB and but you know, it

891
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: was the type of thing with BIS was like, you know,

892
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, you know the Jewice Crew, dudes is funny.

893
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Don't tell them you and MC, don't tell them you

894
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: know who you are or what we're doing. So I

895
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: was always there, just slid like I was in the

896
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: studio to night him and Sante did Death Fresh Crew.

897
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: But I was just like, just man, you were there

898
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: watching it. Yeah, I'll tell you a funny story about

899
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: that too. But yeah, I mean yeah, I was there

900
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: watching it, you know, And I mean, but wait, wait,

901
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: wait wait, I'm a I'm a bookmark you what do

902
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: you remember about the recording of that the Death Fresh

903
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: Crew ship one. I guess Seante was trying to fill

904
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: me out because she was like a roller chere and

905
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: she kept rolling and banging me in the leg with it,

906
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: I guess to see what type of response you know,

907
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: she was gonna get, you know, but I mean, I

908
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: ain't here, no attention. I want. I want to get on.

909
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: You know. I'm not gonna say nothing smart, just like

910
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: yo wild man, you know. But but you know, but

911
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: the best part was like finding out how nice Schante

912
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: was off the top of the head, because I've seen

913
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: her do about maybe four takes and each time she

914
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: said something different. The last one I truly believe that

915
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: they kept it because, um, she just Shannon because she

916
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: was in the booth and Shanon says something real sarcastic

917
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: to her and tied magic and all the men they're

918
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: laughing and stuff, Um, I mean ty Marley and then

919
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: they're laughing. And then when Seante starts spitting and she

920
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: said the stuff about it because you're getting really skinny,

921
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: only big as your hat and pointed at him and

922
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: we all like like, I'm like, yo, this little girl

923
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: is nice. Man, Like I was like, wow, that was real. Yeah, alright,

924
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: so finished finish what you were saying in regard to

925
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: your first joint the second time. So anyway, this particularly

926
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: this is the day to business going to do Nobody

927
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: Beast biz and and you know this asked me to

928
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: come with him to Morley Crib. And I'm like, now,

929
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: I got classes and test today, man, I come after school.

930
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: You're a high school student, yeah, I'm like, I come

931
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: after school. So he said he was going into Midtown

932
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: to get to Steve Miller band joint. Anyway, I take

933
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: the train get to Morlly Crib. Bills, ain't there Molly

934
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: talking to me with the chain on the door, like, Yo,

935
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: what's up. I'm like, um, I'm here for the BIS session.

936
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: This ain't him money. I'm like, well, you know, he

937
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: told me to come out here, supposed to be doing

938
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: that nobody beat. This ain't him money. I don't need

939
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: to tell you no doubt man. But in case he

940
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: did show up, I just took the rhymes and I'm like,

941
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: you're here. These the ruins he's supposed to say if

942
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: he come, just give them to him. He like, you

943
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: write stuff for BIS. I wrote that, you know, and

944
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: he was like, Hi, I go and I just read

945
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of it. Then he took the chain

946
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: off and was like, yo, you're rhyme two. You'll come in.

947
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: Let me hear something and he asked me to spit something,

948
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: and he was like, yo, you want a vibe, Let's listen.

949
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: Just you try to do something. So we sat going

950
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: through records and he pulled up the um I'll take

951
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: you there joint from the Staple Singers, and I was like, yeah,

952
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: my man understanding. When we was in a crew together

953
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: back in the days, used to always want to rock

954
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: off desk. So he's you know, he was saying, playing

955
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: and we hear at the part Big Daddy. He was like, ah,

956
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: So Morley made a beat and I put some stuff

957
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: and we made a song. And what was the first

958
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: stoint I'll take you here here ye hear ye from

959
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: farther and Neil, the one they called the Big Daddy

960
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: Kane is here to deliver a message to everyone that beware,

961
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: so listen up, party people, because this you should hear

962
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: your father way atmosphere that you will find by Ba

963
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: and farm y'all compare all is to sale and rather

964
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: devil nail. So let's go gather around. Because and I

965
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: hadn't already been written or you were finessing it that day.

966
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: That day we did did all that that day, Like

967
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm in here with super produce of

968
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: Molly Mare. I just saw him just like I picked

969
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: the forty five up and he just made magic. He

970
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: was chopping that ship up there. Yeah, I'm watching this

971
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: like wow and your hype yea and when you're when

972
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 1: you're rocking that that that those rhymes and all that ship.

973
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: Like how long did it take you to like do it?

974
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: How many takes? Like what do you remember about like

975
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: where where was it his fucking recording booth? Was it

976
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: in his kitchen? Where was it? Um? We were in

977
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: a room. We're like, I'm standing right there and Molly

978
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: got headphones on the music you know down and I'm

979
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: right next to him spitting on a short stage Mike. Yeah.

980
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: And what was when it was done? When that song

981
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: was done, I'll take you there was done. What was

982
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: the response to it? Like how was it passed around?

983
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: Because the radio was such a big fucking thing, having

984
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: Morley co sign, having Magic Cosign, having for others red

985
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: co sign and it was like sort of this like

986
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: sort of like Church and State with nine point seven

987
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: and b LS, But like when did the songs start

988
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: getting passed around? Well? What happened was um, when um

989
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: fly t I heard it. He liked the song and

990
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, put it out, but at that time,

991
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: Prince owned um Staple Singers catalog. Prince Prince yeah, Purple Prince. Yeah,

992
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: he owned you know, Staple Singers catalog. And he was like, no,

993
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: I guess he wasn't really feeling rap or whatever, and

994
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: it was just shut down, like no, you can't use it.

995
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: So it was shelved and then we ended up doing

996
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: just Flying with Biz joint Um and fly Ty. Well.

997
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: It was a song called something Funky, just round with

998
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: bisiness the B side. But that's what took off because

999
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: business on it and it was popping, you know in

1000
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: the Try State every ye you know, it wasn't big,

1001
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: but it was popping and Try To State area. But

1002
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting no money because everybody thought it was

1003
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: biz record. So here I am with a joint plan

1004
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: on radio. But I'm broke, you know, still stealing can

1005
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: shrimping Mrs Paul fish sticks six out of the store

1006
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: because I ain't got no paper, you know, and I'm

1007
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: begging tired of yo, let me do something by myself. Man.

1008
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to be on a song by myself.

1009
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: He's like nine times the still life in this let

1010
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: let the sales song live, and he wouldn't let me

1011
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: do nothing. Then finally he said, you know, he got

1012
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: tired of me asking. It's just like ahead, just try

1013
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: to try something. We see what it sounds like. And

1014
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: Marley made this beat and um I had um wrote

1015
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: the rhymes for raw and this girl um that um

1016
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: I was dating at the time. She tried to get

1017
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: me to stay at her crib instead of going to

1018
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: the studio, so she broke out all these records she had, like,

1019
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: I got records, you can look through my stuff, and

1020
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: I found um, I'm a Black Season. That was my movie. Damn.

1021
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: So when I found the Mamma feel Good um like

1022
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: the Pimper, I was like, oh yeah, this is crazy. Yeah,

1023
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: let me take this, but I'm still going to the studio,

1024
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, left for And that day I don't what

1025
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: it was, but something just said go stop by Downstairs

1026
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: Records because that wasn't gonna be the beat on Roar

1027
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: ro Molly had made a regular drum beat. I stopped

1028
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: by Downstairs Mystairs Records every day a week, searching and

1029
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: searching for the baby bad beat. That's the spot I

1030
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: go up in there and you know this dude. J

1031
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: C is like, Yo, we just got these James Brown

1032
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: imports and you need to hear them. It's like they

1033
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: stripped down to just the drums. So he played them.

1034
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: That's cool. He played the one that kid and play

1035
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: ended up using it for my way. I'm playing that

1036
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, that's cool. He was like

1037
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: I say this for laugh. I know this and I

1038
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: think this is you. Then he played the Bobby Bird

1039
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm coming. I'm like, yeah, let me get that. You

1040
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: brought the record said, I said, let me get I

1041
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: brought two of them. I was like yeah, and I

1042
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: took it to Marley like yo, we need this right here.

1043
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: He was like we were. I'm like nah. And when

1044
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: he heard it, he was like, yeah, this ship is hot.

1045
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: And when you when you recorded that song, because it's

1046
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: such a fucking like it's so like I was listening

1047
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: to it before you were coming over here. I mean,

1048
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: this song is so part of my life. But like here,

1049
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: I am r A W. I mean, you come in

1050
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: so hard your voice like you you sound like the

1051
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: ship that's bugged out because you're you're two years older

1052
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: than me. But as a kid two years old of

1053
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: me like you rock Kim Krs. Just size you guys

1054
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: seem like grown fucking men, and your voice in particular

1055
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: the deepness of it, like it sounds like as a

1056
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: as a fifteen six year I'm like, Yo, this dude's

1057
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: like thirty. And when I first came out and people

1058
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: thought I was because of the voice of the whole ship,

1059
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: I think I just looked older, you know, I looked

1060
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: a lot older. But that song, like, were you like, yo,

1061
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: this is my shot? Like how long had you been

1062
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: sitting on the rhymes for raw? Like just talk to

1063
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: me about like what that song? I think I had

1064
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: ab a week after that because, like I said, Molly

1065
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: made a beat and I wrote to the beat because

1066
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: the rhymes I spent wasn't even for the Bobby Bird beeat.

1067
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: It was Molly's original beat, you know. But when I

1068
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: heard this, when j C gave me this stronch, I'm like,

1069
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: now just need to be the beat and like I'm like, yeah,

1070
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some pizza. Bounce came back. Molly had

1071
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,479
Speaker 1: already dumped at the tape, but he dumped it wrong.

1072
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: He used the part that um um that the same

1073
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: part that Teddy Riley had used um with no off

1074
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: beat sneer. I'm like, nas, about six bars in, there's

1075
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: like an offbeat snare to go boom boom cat. We

1076
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: need that part, you knew, like this was it? Yeah,

1077
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: Like I already dumped it. I'm like, bro, So he

1078
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: had to sample it all over again and then dumped

1079
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: to the tape all over again, and when he got

1080
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: it there, you know, he was like, no, no, I

1081
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: see your point. I see your point, you know. And

1082
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: then um, when I gave him the Mama feel good,

1083
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, he sampled it and I like, yeah, I

1084
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: just's just on the hooks, you know, I just want

1085
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: to use that. And that's when he tore attention. Yo, man,

1086
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 1: this sain't us. It's sounding like some more public enemy ship. Man.

1087
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: Them niggers want to beat Juice Crew. We can't beat.

1088
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, this's gonna carry the record. Like this

1089
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: sound right here is hypnotizing. It's gonna carry the record. There.

1090
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: We need this, No, we need this. And we argue

1091
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: for about fifteen minutes about putting that part of bempo

1092
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: putting that in, but you know, we ended up doing it.

1093
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: And when I spent the verses like Marley was like, yeah,

1094
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Here I am all a top with you,

1095
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: a temprorist here to bring trouble to phony and seas.

1096
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: I moved on the seas. I just talk up and

1097
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: stop enough of wrapper with Eve because I'm at my apex.

1098
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: Enough called Philo tuping about the mill of leader. I'm

1099
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: a kilo second and none making them seas one. So

1100
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: don't try to step to me because I ain't the one.

1101
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: Ally was like, yeah, this is crazy, like this is crazy,

1102
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I want to play this this weekend. And

1103
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: did he did he want to play it on the radio? Yeah,

1104
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: I can't remember if he played it that we can

1105
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: be the end of the planet. And what was like

1106
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: the reaction for you? What did it mean for you

1107
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: to have that played on the radio, And what do

1108
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: you remember the reaction around New York. You gotta understand,

1109
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm in position to, you know, make a record and

1110
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,839
Speaker 1: I finally get the opportunity to do it, and everybody

1111
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: think it's big song. Nobody's paying me no attention. I'm

1112
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: not eating, So now here's my second chance to go

1113
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: on the studio and do something for for me. Just

1114
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: myself rap here I am or a w you feel me?

1115
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 1: So like this was like, you know, this is my shot.

1116
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: This was I felt like this my last chance and

1117
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: that's how I went in oh Ra, So for it

1118
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: to come out that way, I was like, yeah, yeah,

1119
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: the response is what it was. Yeah, I mean where

1120
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: everybody was like, you know, just took to it. I

1121
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: love this ship so fucking much. All right. When you

1122
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: started rocking, when you got your record deal, you were you.

1123
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: You were shouting out Botch, hawk Dog and a Rock

1124
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,520
Speaker 1: aunt live who specifically I want you to break down, breakdown,

1125
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: explain to the people like this this R and B

1126
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 1: hip hop world, there's this this music business world, and

1127
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: you're bringing real life street dudes. And at the time

1128
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: there was no like it was like real life street dudes.

1129
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: Like when when you so, who who's Botch, hawk Dog

1130
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: and a Rock And who were they to you at

1131
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: the time and why were you bringing them with you?

1132
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: What Botch to this very day is my you know,

1133
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: closest friend. You know, that's like my brother. To this

1134
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: very day, that's my closest friend, you know. Um, But

1135
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: back then, you know, he was a street dude that

1136
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: you know, looked out for me. You know, I say

1137
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: I got a date. He let me hold on his whips.

1138
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: I adn't have driving's license to first. You know, I'm

1139
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: out there performing with bids with no record deal. You know,

1140
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm just making a little cameo appearances. You know. He

1141
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: you know, go ahead, man, get heavy, throw a big

1142
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: rope chain around my neck, get heavy, man. Other people.

1143
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, his change has got me some asks that night,

1144
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, he was

1145
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: the dude that always looked out you know, so when

1146
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: I got on eventually, you know, I made him my

1147
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: road manager. Okay, yeah, but he always looked out for me.

1148
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: And these other dudes HAWG Dog and a Rock like

1149
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: these are like these are street dudes that you know, um,

1150
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: you start hang out in the mall with and run

1151
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: around midtown with, you know, and and live and live.

1152
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: Is Eric b little brother Okay who passed away because

1153
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: because I know you've told the story so at one point,

1154
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: like it's you. In my opinion, there's other dudes, and

1155
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: there's other dudes that are part of groups. But in

1156
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: my opinion, this is my opinion. I mean, cool J

1157
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: was killing it, but for me, K r S, Rock Him,

1158
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: Big Daddy King. You know, there's the obligatory top five list.

1159
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: I always start with cares in any order. KRS, Big Daddy,

1160
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: came Rock Kim, Big Daddy, came Rock Kim Cars, and

1161
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: then I'll add the other two depending on my mood,

1162
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: Like you guys are my big three. At one point

1163
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: there was some rumor and I remember one time, I

1164
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: think it was in nine nine, it might have been

1165
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: in like right on magazine. I saw a picture of

1166
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,560
Speaker 1: you and Rock Kim and at the time there's no Instagram,

1167
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: there's no computers and like, and I was like, oh shit,

1168
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: they know each other. Like it was like, you know

1169
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: what's picture I'm talking about? He had, like and I

1170
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: was like, how did these guys know each other? Like? Like,

1171
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: because there was so just such a mystique, you know,

1172
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: we couldn't follow you when we were able to follow

1173
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: everybody today. But at one point there was a rumor

1174
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: that Kane was gonna battle Rock Kim and Aunt Live

1175
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: is Eric B's brother, but Aunt Live is your dude, okay,

1176
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: And then Eric B so obviously so explain that the

1177
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: myth was there really gonna be a battle. Had you

1178
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: ever met Rock Kim before and and break down this

1179
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: story of the rock Kim Big Daddy came about it

1180
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: because for me personally, I'm glad it never happened, because

1181
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: God forbid one of you guys cut the other. Dude,

1182
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: it could have fucked up the trajectory of your career

1183
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, the fans we

1184
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: needed both of you guys. But if it happened, who

1185
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: knows what could have happened. It could have sucked up

1186
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: like the legacy. So break down the reality, what what happened?

1187
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: What didn't happen? All right? When I was first trying

1188
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: to get on UM, you know, Eric and Rob had

1189
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: their joint out, UM and Me and Live and coolgi

1190
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: Rap used to be together all the time. I think

1191
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: g may have had UM It's a demo at the time,

1192
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: which was a Blazer sir. But Um and you guys

1193
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: are all kids. You just know each other from Marley

1194
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: from like how you knowing each other. You just just

1195
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: through the industry, you know. UM, so me at Live

1196
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: and Coolgi Rap we would always be together, you know,

1197
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: always hanging together, you know. And when I finally got

1198
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 1: on UM, Aunt was Eric's road manager, but Eric changed

1199
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: to you someone else. So you know, when he said

1200
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: he wasn't with him the while, I was like, well, yo,

1201
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: you know I'm about to go on towards and stuff

1202
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: I needed, you know, you know, a real road manager.

1203
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: So he said, you know, he do it and me.

1204
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: And because you gotta said, Eric was cool when I

1205
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: was DJM for Shanta and eighty six um, she was

1206
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: the open at act on the Death Jam tour, Eric

1207
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: B and Rock Kims on. So me and Eric got

1208
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: cool around that time. Had you met rock him at

1209
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: that time? Yeah? I met Rock Kim um because I

1210
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: rode on the tour bus with them from one state

1211
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: to another, and me and Rock Kim we talked briefly,

1212
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: but it was me and Eric was really the ones

1213
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: that was tight. You know, me and Eric sit there

1214
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: cracking jokes and you know, you know, we we we

1215
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: we just got real cool. But and you're like, Rock

1216
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: came like eight six you're a fan of his, obviously

1217
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: everybody loved that that record. Oh yeah, no, I mean, uh,

1218
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 1: Eric B for President was amazing. But then to actually

1219
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: hear him on my melody, I was like, yeah, this

1220
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: dude is a beast, you know, So you know, I

1221
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: mean It wasn't nothing like that. I had no animosity

1222
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: you know against rock him, you know um back then.

1223
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: And besides, you know, like I said, Eric was my man,

1224
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: like this how typed me? And there it was when

1225
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: I bought my first house, I was out here, Um,

1226
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm working on some stuff. So Eric was the one

1227
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: who had the keys to my house for the interior

1228
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,799
Speaker 1: decorator to come in each day and put furniture different places.

1229
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: And you know he called me like, yo, you said,

1230
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, such a search like he's coming and letting

1231
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: these people in every day. That's me and Eric was

1232
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We still tight, but I mean,

1233
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: you know that's how I was. But then Um, after

1234
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: UM set it off because of course, since both of

1235
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: us is popping, everybody wants us to go at each other,

1236
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: you know. So you here like I want to see

1237
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: KANEA rock him down. I wanted, but have to set

1238
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 1: it off. And I forgot which song with him. And

1239
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: when he said the word the daddy he getting that

1240
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 1: came with telling Rod, yo, he getting at you with

1241
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: the um rap solo issue. You don't want none of this,

1242
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, And you know I wasn't really paying it,

1243
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: no attention. You know, you know I didn't really paying

1244
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: no attention, and like, like what you were saying about

1245
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 1: what can happen with Koreas, It's like you know a

1246
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: lot of people when they battle careers of careers of ending,

1247
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: it's over. At the time it's over there, there's no oh,

1248
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm still good. Like it was, it was you're done

1249
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: so at your level like cool j Modi, Modi kept going,

1250
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, fucking Modi what he did too, busy Bee.

1251
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: It was terrible. I mean it was, it was. It

1252
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: was beautiful, but it was like, that's it. You're never

1253
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: You're never to be heard from. And she with that understanding,

1254
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, as I said, Eric is my man, So

1255
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: we do this. You know, the effects can affect Eric

1256
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: b as well. So that's not what I want to do,

1257
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But any away, what happens

1258
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: is one night, me and Aunt live together and we

1259
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: picked this girl up and she gives me a photo

1260
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: and on the photo it says, dear Kane, I want

1261
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: to set it off and get r A. W Ain't

1262
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: no half stepping because I'm gonna break your raf in half.

1263
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: Now I'd already heard the rumors that rock Camp got

1264
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: a song called Break the Raff and Half. So I

1265
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: showed a picture to add and it's like, yo, or

1266
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: what you mean by break the Raff and Half? And

1267
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: she like, oh, you didn't heard rock him song? He

1268
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: got a song trying to just came called break the

1269
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: Raff and Half. Y'all ain't heard it, and it's like, nah,

1270
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: where you heard it? Eric B played it for me

1271
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: on Jamaica Avenue. You know, I was in this Rose

1272
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: royce Um the other day and he played it for him.

1273
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: He looked at me and Ad is sitting there just's

1274
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: cracking up, laughing, cracking up, laughing, and like finally the

1275
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: girl is like, yeah, why you keep looking at him laughing?

1276
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: What you work with Eric Be or something? And it's like,

1277
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: now I live with him, that's my brother. And she goes, oh,

1278
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: you know I need to talk. So we're like we're laughing,

1279
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: like yeah, I carefully this like this. Then that's where

1280
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: Aunt was like, Yo, this is getting out of hand.

1281
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: You arrivally need to talk man, you know, like you

1282
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: know y'all should talk. Man, Like I hit him up

1283
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 1: with you, I'm not gonna yeah, So he called him

1284
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: put around the phone and show enough. Rob mentioned like,

1285
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: you know you asked me about that line, and I'm like, no,

1286
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm the rap soloists. Competition don't want none

1287
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 1: of this. I'm like, I know you said that, and

1288
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 1: you know that I'm a soloist, but you know may

1289
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: heavy d they solo is anybody around alone as the

1290
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: solois gone? You know what I'm saying, I'm the rap

1291
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: soloist and competition on what none of this? I'm like, no,

1292
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: that wasn't at you. And I asked him about the

1293
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: word of daddy and he said, you know that's that's

1294
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: the long Island slang. You know that you don't really

1295
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: say word mommy or the my mother. We say we're daddy,

1296
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: you know. And we left it at that. What what's

1297
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: the like like again this there may be no relationship

1298
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: like it's like people like in acting or in basketball

1299
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: or whatever, like me an actor, Like there's this actor

1300
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: exact we know each other. We're cool, but like, what

1301
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: do you think of like historically like my dream I've

1302
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: said this before a matter of fact, I'll say this

1303
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: to you now. My dream song is I know there's

1304
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: been pieces of this my dream song today you raw

1305
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: and krs on a joint with like a premier beat

1306
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: or a tip beat or a large pro beat. Like

1307
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: when when I say these guys, is it like respect?

1308
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: Are you guys cool? Like the legacies are so impactful

1309
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: of the of you three? Like when I say those

1310
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: two guys names now, like are what you what is

1311
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: your first thing that comes into your head? Lyrical beast man?

1312
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean I think that um Rock, Chris, ANGI Rap,

1313
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: all three of them are lyrical beast that always kept

1314
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,040
Speaker 1: me all my toes, you know, I mean like I

1315
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: hear something new from them and you're like, you know, yeah,

1316
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: it's real. And your style like when I'm when I'm

1317
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: thinking about your style, Like there was so much going on.

1318
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: There was the word play, ain't no half stepping was

1319
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: like more slow consciousness, Like so much of the ship

1320
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: that I was opened up to was from you, from

1321
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: Rock Kim, from Justice, from public Enemy, like just as

1322
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: a young dude, as a young white dude like you

1323
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: guys are kicking. I was like you had so much

1324
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: in your in your ship that you were talking about,

1325
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: and everybody was so unique, like just the people that

1326
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: I've mentioned now you mentioned Kwamba, you mentioned kid didn't

1327
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 1: play like everybody was so one of a kind. For you, specifically,

1328
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: what was the sort of ingredients, What was the mentality

1329
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: like to to separate yourself from the pack? L L

1330
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: was Ladies love, you know, I need love. Douggie Fresh

1331
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: was the party ship Like, what was like you're like,

1332
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: mentality like I want I'm gonna be this guy. Well,

1333
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: I mean at that point in time, you know, as

1334
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: you said it, everybody was looking at us as that

1335
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: top three you know me, rock Him, Kars and you

1336
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 1: know that was cool, but you know, for me, not

1337
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: good enough. I had. I felt like I had to

1338
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: do something to stand out, you know, and you know

1339
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: from you know, just being on a lot of Eric

1340
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: and Roy shows. You know, I know that you know,

1341
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, rock Him is a beast on the mike,

1342
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: but you know he wasn't really a performer like that,

1343
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, you know, so it was, you know, like,

1344
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: my thing was putting together a great stage show, making

1345
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: sure that my stage show it's rock solid and just

1346
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: so electrifying that it separates me from you know, this

1347
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: dude with Chrs, you know, another lyrical beasts, you know,

1348
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: but you know, not the most attractive dude on the planet,

1349
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: you know. So with him it was like, you know,

1350
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: to separate myself, you know, get on some real sexy,

1351
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: smooth ship, you know. And I mean that's that's what

1352
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: it basically. And it was like, Okay, what can I do?

1353
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: You know? Um, it's like we all lyrical beasts, man,

1354
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 1: But what can I do better than them? On other levels?

1355
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 1: You know? I got you and Scoop and Scrap the

1356
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: dancers who Deny had Cliff and Stretch. You had Scoob

1357
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: and Scrap school I knew from a man from Brownsville,

1358
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: I mean, and they were stars. Cliff and Stretch were stars.

1359
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: You know. You'd see them on sucking uh soul train.

1360
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: Like it was like, you know, if you were on

1361
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: TV at the time, it was like a big fucking deal,

1362
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: like your your show, like you know, the influence of

1363
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, like the seventies, the stylistics, the dance and

1364
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: the spinners and the James Brown of it all. Who

1365
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: who was sort of you know, like the think tank

1366
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: of that? Was it you? And where did you find

1367
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: Scoob and Scrap um? Well, Latin Quarters, you know, And

1368
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: I used to go there with with Biz before I

1369
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: was on Um me school, another um one because there

1370
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: was a crew called the Alue Dancers School and another

1371
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: aue dancer named Lads. He manages m op Um and Mike.

1372
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 1: He used to dance with Nice and smooth Um. You

1373
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: know we would hang at the ball drinking, hangden and

1374
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 1: get talk about what we're gonna do, you know, And

1375
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: you know I said it to school, you know, you know,

1376
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 1: you know when I get on, man, you know it

1377
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: would be dope if you came, you know, death for me.

1378
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: When I finally got on one night, Um after the quarters,

1379
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: I asked school, did you know do you want to

1380
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 1: get down? And I was like, y'all wanted like two

1381
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: dances and then he brought lads and you know he

1382
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: was rocking. But then lads, you know he left to

1383
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: pursue a music career. That's that's I didn't know that ship. Yeah, like, um,

1384
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: we're just runding with busines days. It was me school

1385
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: and lash scrap got down that around raw and your

1386
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: school brought scrapping and a conversation I had with Dougie

1387
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: Fresh to make me want to look at old videos,

1388
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: and I had an old video of James Brown where

1389
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: he did to split Bobby Bird pull him up by

1390
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: us here, and I was like, yo, we gotta do

1391
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: something like that. But you ain't funking him my here,

1392
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: but we got you something like that. So we created

1393
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: a move where I do when I do the split,

1394
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: and he pulled me up out my collar and you know,

1395
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: like we just started just yeah, it just came together.

1396
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: Um you mentioned Latin Quarters. I was in there. I

1397
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: saw some crazy shit. Like just at your memory, what's

1398
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: the craziest club fight you remember, either at Latin Quarters

1399
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: or Union Square? I mean I've seen girls get the

1400
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: fucking earrings snatch a Union Square. Terrible ship, you know

1401
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: when you look back at him, like really ship that

1402
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: like young kids, I mean it was so when you're young,

1403
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,719
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about it. When you're like I was seventeen,

1404
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: anything could have happened. What do you remember about Latin

1405
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: Quarters or like the wildest ship you saw in there?

1406
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: The two that I remember the most is the night

1407
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 1: when um uh fifty cent got into it with security

1408
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: and he shot one of the mirrors. Um like right

1409
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: when you come up the stairs, right by the coacheck,

1410
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: like he shot one of the mirror was out. That

1411
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: was just crazy. I mean origin. Yeah. Yeah, like we

1412
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: were there that night and like that Shi it was crazy. Um,

1413
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: I think they tried to rob somebody or something. I

1414
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what happened by no security was he

1415
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: got into it, like him and a couple other guys

1416
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: they got into security and all of a sudden just

1417
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: like wow, you know what happened after I don't know

1418
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: because everybody scattered. Man, But yeah, I remember that night

1419
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: and then the night they tried to rob jam Master

1420
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: Jay tell me about that. Um, that's a bad decision, yo.

1421
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: But yo, on the reel, Jay wasn't that deep that night.

1422
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: I think I think it was him, Hurricane and maybe

1423
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: one other. I don't think it was no more than like,

1424
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, three or four of them. And what do

1425
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: you remember, yo, Man, it must have been about twos

1426
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,560
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn or like like yeah, I mean it was

1427
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: like a crazy gang brawl. I mean, like, Yo, by

1428
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: twenty dudes on his ass man, you know, trying to

1429
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: get that change. They're fighting, like I mean, like it

1430
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: looked like they're fighting like stunt man man, you know,

1431
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: throwing dudes and all types of ship man and I

1432
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: mean yeah, but at the end of the night, they

1433
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: didn't get that chain like this is in the Latin quarters.

1434
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: It's I think it started on the dance floor, I believe,

1435
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: and it ended up in the like in the back

1436
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 1: by like you know, on the tables. But I mean yeah,

1437
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: I mean it was like yo, yeah, Jay stood his

1438
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:43,560
Speaker 1: ground like against like about yo. I mean there was

1439
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: so many people trying to get at this dude, man,

1440
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and this was and this was like

1441
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: one of them, um like Peter Griffin and the Chicken

1442
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: type fights. Man, Like that's how long it lasted? Man,

1443
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: Like this was a long fight. Man, you know, Um

1444
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: that's bugged um all right, I mean let me let

1445
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: me throw some more shit at you when you pop.

1446
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: When the first record came out, Long Lived the King,

1447
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: and then Big It's a Big Daddy thing came out,

1448
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: like you became a fucking star. What was it like

1449
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: on tour girls? The violence? Like when was the first

1450
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: time you remember going to Europe? Like and you're like one,

1451
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 1: like what's going through your head? Like as like what

1452
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: do you are you? Like, Joe, this is my life,

1453
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Like where's your head at it? At the time? Um,

1454
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: I mean you know, it was like it was amazing

1455
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of this stuff I had already

1456
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: done thanks to Biz. You know, I hadn't been on

1457
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: the road um with Biz a whole lot of times,

1458
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: and he was a star. Yeah. And I had toured

1459
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: in eight six with Seant as her DJ and that

1460
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: was a death jam to us, and that was a

1461
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: major tour. So you're sort of getting like a soft

1462
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 1: like you're you're getting it before you're in front of it.

1463
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: You're sort of getting exactly. So I've experienced it before

1464
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 1: my career really began. But now this is actually me

1465
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,560
Speaker 1: where I can dictate the pace, you know, things you know,

1466
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: because I mean like when I was DJ and off

1467
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: for Shanta. You know, it was a type of thing

1468
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: where you know, um, I beg a girl were leaving

1469
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: the venue anyway, Hell, I'm taking you backstage around um

1470
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: you know extra c in jelil and l L nah

1471
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: we out. I was no, no, no, yeah, you won't

1472
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: see the rest of the Joe Let's bounds, you know.

1473
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: Now It's like, well, you know we can stay now

1474
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: because I'm that dude. Now I got you. Yeah, you know. So,

1475
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean it was but I had already experienced this,

1476
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 1: But I mean it's like now it's like, you know

1477
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 1: where it's it's about me. You know, I'm not you know,

1478
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: just the DJ or the um um, the cameo rapper,

1479
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, just making a little appearance for bis. You know,

1480
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 1: this is my thing, you know, and it's like, Okay,

1481
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 1: I didn't did this before, but okay, this is how

1482
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: I going it to be. So it's like I'm really

1483
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: setting the tone, you know this time, you know, with

1484
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: events and you know how we're gonna deal with stuff.

1485
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: Uh And what about Europe? Like when was the first

1486
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: time you went to Europe as big that he came

1487
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: and like what was the response? What do you remember

1488
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: about that? And how bugged out was it seeing like

1489
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: your lyrics, your songs, your show resonate with people. Well,

1490
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: the first time I remember talking to some white dude

1491
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: in the hotel lobby and he was asking me all

1492
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: these questions about me that I'm like, how do you

1493
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: know this? You know, I'm like, how do you how

1494
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 1: did you find this? Like he knew a whole lot

1495
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: about me. That's when I realized and he explained he

1496
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,560
Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, artists usually come up and

1497
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: maybe once a year if that, so we don't really

1498
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: get to see a lot of the artists, so you know,

1499
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: we read a lot of and you know, and you know,

1500
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: we always want to and I'm like wow, I'm like, yo,

1501
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: these dudes is like true, real die hard fans, Like

1502
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: this is crazy because I mean I got the concert.

1503
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: It was amazing, Like they were screaming, like you know,

1504
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: it was a Michael Jackson concert. You know. I was like, yo,

1505
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 1: hip hop is so real over here, and you know,

1506
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: like like like wow, you know. And then I remember

1507
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: when we did Germany. It was like people running on

1508
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 1: stage and I yeah, it was crazy, and a lot

1509
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: of people there were military people. He was in Frankfort,

1510
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: so a lot of people there were from America military people.

1511
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: But it was like, you know, the people that actually

1512
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 1: I guess we're German, like you know, running on and

1513
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: then they're talking to you and don't speak you know,

1514
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, real good English, you know, and it's like

1515
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: but rocking with you, you know, the songs, and I'm

1516
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: just sitting there like, Yo, this is crazy. Dapper d

1517
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: This is just a specific question because he's making emergence

1518
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 1: a re emergence which is dope. When was the first

1519
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: time you made a trip up to dapper dance trip Um.

1520
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: I want to say, I'm not sure if I want

1521
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: to say. The first thing he made was this black

1522
01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:00,959
Speaker 1: and white um leather um sweatshirt. They had the Universal

1523
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 1: flag on the front. I think that was like the

1524
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: first thing that he made for me. I could be wrong,

1525
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: but but I think that's what what it was. Yeah,

1526
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: do you do you have any of your old stuff?

1527
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: Any of your old stuff you used to rock? Um?

1528
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: Na Um. The last piece of stuff that I had,

1529
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 1: the last few pieces I had, I donated to the

1530
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: museum and d C the African Museum, d C UM

1531
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: the m C M jacket I had it. Um. It

1532
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: was like a family member in the South. I gave

1533
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: it to them, but they couldn't find it, so damn um.

1534
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: All right, where's bizin now? Are you still cool with business? Oh? Yeah?

1535
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,879
Speaker 1: Bis called me like every once in blue Moon, recurased

1536
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: me out about stupid stuff, you know, mad about nothing.

1537
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: I just want to yell at me, you know, But

1538
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: that's my dude for life, man, Like you know, I mean,

1539
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 1: none of this would be possible without him. Man, tell

1540
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: this story because I always say this, and no disrespect

1541
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:02,600
Speaker 1: to his talent, because it's immense and and and what

1542
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 1: he did the Jay z connection, because you were the

1543
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:10,839
Speaker 1: quintessential Brooklyn m C. Like your whole ship, your swagger,

1544
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: the way you walked like this is just like it

1545
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: was just Brooklyn. And if you're not from New York

1546
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,799
Speaker 1: and you didn't grow up at that time, that sounds

1547
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 1: very vague, But it was like Brooklyn dudes had a way,

1548
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: Harlem dudes had away, Queen's dudes had away, Bronx dudes

1549
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: had had away, and keep it real into Wu Tang.

1550
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 1: No one even mentioned Staten Island, but like every right,

1551
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 1: I mean, they literally put that ship on the map.

1552
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: It was like the four Boroughs. And then Wu Tang

1553
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 1: Clint Camp came. So jay z how did you meet

1554
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: jay z Um? And when did you realize this guy

1555
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: had talent? Did I realized that he had talent the

1556
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: first day I met him? What happened was you remembered

1557
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: on the shirt Kings, Yes okay, one of the shirt

1558
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 1: King's Nike. He asked me Um to do a mix

1559
01:31:53,800 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 1: tape with Jazz Oh with Fresh Gordon Fresh Gordon Gord.

1560
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 1: He lived around the corner from me Um, like I

1561
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: was on Louis and Lafayette I think he was on

1562
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 1: Van Buren and Trup or something like that. But he's

1563
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: around the corner for me. So it's like, you know,

1564
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: like okay, we do it. We get there. Um Jazz said, yo, um,

1565
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: you mind if my man rhyme on the table, and

1566
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: he introduced me to jay Z. It's like, all right,

1567
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,440
Speaker 1: that's cool. So we did it. We did the mixtape

1568
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: and then it was done. Um, you know, we're leaving,

1569
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 1: and Night was like, yo, um, really what this is

1570
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: about is we're trying to get Jazz a new deal. Um,

1571
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: you feel like, you know, working with him to try

1572
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 1: to make something happen. I was like, honestly, I like

1573
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: that Light's getting motherfucker better. Man. I mean, you think

1574
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 1: it's possible I can connect with him. And then me

1575
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 1: and Jay ended up, you know, connecting. We recorded some

1576
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 1: stuff and uh, you know, we were shopping at a

1577
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: lot of places, you know, um but um like nobody

1578
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: wanted to you know, nobody was nobody was feeling them.

1579
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: And the crazy part is like, you know, to find

1580
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: out how close and um um business ties him and

1581
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: leore Um ended up having because Leo was also wanted

1582
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: the people to turn them down. But then they ended up.

1583
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, wow, this is crazy man,

1584
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, I mean I took with Leo,

1585
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: Bennie Medina, Cassandra Mills, a whole lot of people. Yeah,

1586
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: they were you wanted to put him one. You knew

1587
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 1: like there was something about him that was Yeah. But

1588
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I guess I guess Jay figured

1589
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 1: out on his own that you know, that fast flow

1590
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 1: stuff they're not they're not messed with, and he revamped

1591
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: himself and you know, started you know, kicking the street stuff,

1592
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,839
Speaker 1: you know, m you know more like the biggie fashion

1593
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: and the rest was history and the fast Flow ship.

1594
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: Like when when you said on ain't no hasteff and

1595
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: the b I g d A double d y k

1596
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 1: any like I remember, like that was like it's so

1597
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: like we've especially that song. It's such a pop song,

1598
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: like it made it. It transcended everything. And we've heard

1599
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 1: dos effects, we've heard Hove do it. But like that

1600
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: the way you rock, that the way you spelled your

1601
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: name oil quick and connected the whole ship. Who was

1602
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: influencing you when you were first starting like who are

1603
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: the ones Grandmaster cast? And where were you hearing him?

1604
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: You know, back then, you know, early eighties. You know, Um,

1605
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 1: I had Cold Crush tapes. I had Grandmaster Flash tapes,

1606
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 1: breakout tapes, um, but cold Crush. I was really just

1607
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,560
Speaker 1: listening to the routines. And I remember I was with

1608
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 1: my man Swan not not not the singer. One day

1609
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 1: I was kicking its rhyme and I do remember that rhyme.

1610
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: It was like, I'm the t O n y the

1611
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: t e E has can't hit with your eyes, can't see.

1612
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: I know the tricks. I know the trades and shop

1613
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 1: as a motherfucking raised the blade. This is like eight two.

1614
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,560
Speaker 1: And he was like not school, you know you you

1615
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: you know you ever listened to the Cold Crush. I'm

1616
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. I'm the routine, not

1617
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: not the routines. If you heard the rhyme, individual, it's

1618
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: mainly that Grandmaster Cars. Dude like nine never listened to it,

1619
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: Like he's like yo, and I heard just do Grandmaster Cars,

1620
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: Captain of the four. Another nigga couldn't touch me. If

1621
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: he had a rhyme store, even if he had a

1622
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: plant manufacturing with rhymes, he couldn't make them no better

1623
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: than I make mine. And I'm like and then he

1624
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: plays something else in this Dude, It's like I just

1625
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 1: dressed my best and request my guests not to mess

1626
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: with the set that I possessed to take a toke

1627
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: on the cold, but I won't choke into I'm just

1628
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: sitting there like yo, and this is eight two, y'all

1629
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 1: do my whole rhyme book away, man, and just started

1630
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: my whole life all over man. Like when I heard this, dude,

1631
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, if I'm not doing something like that,

1632
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm wasting my goddamn time. You know, I got you.

1633
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: That I got was like my biggest influence you even

1634
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: when you heard even when you you just recited that,

1635
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: uh just the discothec then it like I could hear

1636
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: the the influence of that ship. That's fucking dope. Yah. Um.

1637
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: What do you listen to today to get hyped? What

1638
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 1: do you like? I know you you always used to like,

1639
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Barry White ship, like you brought all

1640
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 1: this soul ship to hip hop. I mean it was

1641
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 1: other ones, but you really, you know, you started doing

1642
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: ship with the late great Barry White. What music do

1643
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 1: you listen to today, like in the morning and in

1644
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 1: the day, Like, what what is your music of choice

1645
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: in general for you for big that. I love, you know,

1646
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies soul. Like I'm just in the crib

1647
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: chilling or you know, sitting outside, you know, drinking a

1648
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 1: glass of wine. Yeah, like, um some David ruffin otis

1649
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 1: redden if I'm in that sixties zone, seventies zone. Um.

1650
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Willie Hutch, Willie Hutch is probably one of my favorites. Man,

1651
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: speak on it. I mean Willie Hutch, like, first of all,

1652
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 1: production wise alone was such a beast. Like his production

1653
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: was so beasts and then like as a vocalist, you know,

1654
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: he had a beautiful raspy voice. But the stuff he

1655
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: was spitting, he was spitting that stuff that you can

1656
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,600
Speaker 1: go and go take to a chick, you know. You know,

1657
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 1: I mean I said, I can't buy you know, big

1658
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: old fancy Cadillac, but I can afford something to get

1659
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: you when you're going in back. You know. I mean

1660
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 1: he was, he was you know, he was spitting that

1661
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,560
Speaker 1: is um for real man, you know, hus, she was

1662
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: a beast. Man. I love this ship so fucking much. Um.

1663
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna ask you the obligatory question of this,

1664
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say groups, I'm not gonna ask you.

1665
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: MC's Big Daddy Kane's top five favorite groups of all time,

1666
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 1: and you could do six if you want to do

1667
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,719
Speaker 1: a cherry on top. So Big Daddy Kane's top five

1668
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: favorite hip hop groups of all time, Public Enemy and

1669
01:37:54,120 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: no particular order, Public Enemy, Run DMC WU Chang Tribe,

1670
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 1: call quest E, p M d Um. What do you

1671
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 1: think like some people try to like ship like on

1672
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: on older dudes they can't shoot on you. But like

1673
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not even gonna name me because I

1674
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 1: know you're respectful with it. For me, I'm so disappointed

1675
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: with these young dudes, the majority of them. Of course,

1676
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: there's dope dudes. Is the j Coles, the Kendrick Lamars.

1677
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 1: There's dudes that you can understand that that that like

1678
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: you could tell care about what they're doing. For me,

1679
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: when I look at these motherfucker's who are just straight ship,

1680
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: They're not kicking knowledge, they have no flow, they have

1681
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,719
Speaker 1: no original flow. You can't even understand what they're saying.

1682
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: What are you excited about in the state of hip

1683
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 1: hop today and what concerns you about the state of

1684
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: hip hop today? What excites me is to see um,

1685
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 1: so many young cats making big money and you know,

1686
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 1: being able to feed their family, you know, get their

1687
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: parents out to get oh you know. I mean, I

1688
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: think that's beautiful because you know, the money they're making

1689
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: today we wasn't making back then. You never even could

1690
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 1: have foreseen it, right, No, No, I mean I and

1691
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 1: I always felt that hip hop was going to be

1692
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: a dominant genre genre, but money wise, I never thought

1693
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 1: it would be like this, Like when you hear like

1694
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: the checks they'll be cutting today, and I mean to

1695
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: see those cats, you know, making a lot of money,

1696
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful. Um, I guess my main concern is,

1697
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 1: like the longevity. I worry about these dudes not having

1698
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:39,520
Speaker 1: the longevity. And you know, if you you're that successful

1699
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 1: when you're young, it might be something that you can't

1700
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: handle mentally, you know, where you end up turning too

1701
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 1: drugs or committing suicide because you're not that dude no more.

1702
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 1: And you know you ain't getting them bags no more,

1703
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: you know. So I worry about that because it's such

1704
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: a disconnect with um, the younger generation and the older generation.

1705
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 1: And I just wish that could be fixed, but it's

1706
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 1: gonna take a lot of work on both sides. You know, Um,

1707
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: the younger generation would have to um embrace and listen

1708
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:17,440
Speaker 1: to the generation before them, but also the older generation

1709
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:19,679
Speaker 1: have to be willing because here's a lot of cats

1710
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:23,280
Speaker 1: my age that's like men, fuck them young dudes. They stupid,

1711
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 1: They don't know what they're doing, you know. Uh, And

1712
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot that's I mean some of my age

1713
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: to think that it's all about to turn around and

1714
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna be that dude again, you know. And I mean,

1715
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 1: oh but in Michael Jackson, I never seen nobody else

1716
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: that it turned around and you that dude again. You know,

1717
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 1: I didn't see that like with m uh, Paul McCartney.

1718
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 1: I see that Elvis, um whoever else you know, came

1719
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 1: back around recorded again and all of a sudden, you know,

1720
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: people just fainting, and you know, Michael Jackson only person

1721
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 1: I ever seen that with. You know, it just don't

1722
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: happen that way, you know, I mean Ronald Oasley got

1723
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 1: back on, but you know, it was you know, it

1724
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 1: wasn't like you know when you know who you know

1725
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,560
Speaker 1: chicks wasn't fainting, you know, but it was like, you know,

1726
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: Mr Bigs, you are you killing it, you know what

1727
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, I mean it's like you know, I

1728
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: think that you know, Big Daddy Kane or rock Him,

1729
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 1: MC light, Dougie Fresh. We can put our new music

1730
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 1: and people take to it, you know. But I mean

1731
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: you know those days where people and you know, trying

1732
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 1: to pull your clothes off, you know, that's throwing. That's

1733
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: something for the kids, man. So with this younger generation,

1734
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: we should be able to communicate with them and show

1735
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,560
Speaker 1: them how it was for us, how to make it

1736
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 1: work where they can have state power, where they can

1737
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 1: have originality, something that makes them separate from every other

1738
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: artist and makes them unique. We need to be able

1739
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: to connect with them and show them, you know, because

1740
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: if they didn't see it, they don't know you say,

1741
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: because you go to them and say, Yo, you've heard

1742
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 1: a big getty kid. No, so you've never seen it.

1743
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 1: You don't know that that really fun. I'm just a

1744
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 1: fan Kane. That really fucking bothers me because that's like saying,

1745
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: like a like a young dude in the NBA, Yo,

1746
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 1: you ever heard of Larry Bird? No? Like you ever

1747
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,879
Speaker 1: heard of Dr j No? Like, shut up, you sound stupid.

1748
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: That's not something to be proud of. Not at all.

1749
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: That's something to be like ashamed of. Like you ever

1750
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 1: heard of a naughty by nature? You ever heard of whatever? Like, Yo,

1751
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 1: you sound dumb. You sound real fucking stupid. Um. When

1752
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,679
Speaker 1: you were young, obviously runs were inundated in your head

1753
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: when you hear beats. Now when you hear music now,

1754
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: are you able to listen to it as a fan

1755
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: or does that mechanism that in you? Does it still

1756
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: like funk with flows and patterns of something? You know

1757
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? Because obviously when you were you, when

1758
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: you were like young, it was it must have been,

1759
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: you know all its hard to turn off in a way.

1760
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: But now that you're older and you don't record as much,

1761
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: you still rock? Do you still have that thing? And

1762
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: you were like the m C is like when you're

1763
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 1: hearing music or if you're hearing like an old joint

1764
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: where you're like, yea, I want to rock on that

1765
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: in your head as an artist? Is that still alive

1766
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 1: in you? Oh? Yeah, um, it definitely is, you know. Um?

1767
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 1: And like even if we're from with what the younger

1768
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: generation you know does, Like I was like, I was

1769
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 1: just curious, like, yo, can I do this? You know, yeah,

1770
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,640
Speaker 1: I sat and wrote one of those nothing done. You know,

1771
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I wrote like maybe like eight bars.

1772
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 1: You know, I was doing it and I was like, not,

1773
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: this ain't me. But this was curious. You know, Can

1774
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: I do it? You know? And you know I can't

1775
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: do it, but it's it's just not a comfort zone,

1776
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, yeah, let me, let me

1777
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 1: let the young cats have it that that ain't me.

1778
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw different artists at you. You and I

1779
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 1: just want to hear your opinion of them. Just the

1780
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 1: goal across the board. Eminem, what do you think of

1781
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: as a as a rapper, as a lyricist. Eminem is

1782
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 1: a great lyricist. He's a beast. He's probably believe um

1783
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 1: one of that um last generation of like lyrical UM.

1784
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know whether you want to say lyrical pop

1785
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: stars lyrical artists that made a big impact, you know,

1786
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, I don't I love Joel

1787
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 1: ortiz Um, Joe Button's um Psigon. There's so many that's

1788
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 1: that you know, they came later. That's lyrical beast. But

1789
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I didn't really have the big

1790
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: commercial success. Eminem and Ludicrous probably the last ones that

1791
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 1: I think really did it like that? That's like and

1792
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 1: and and T. I excuse me, you know did it?

1793
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: That's like on on a lyrical level. But then he

1794
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 1: also had that big commercial success you know, eminem Yeah,

1795
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 1: he's a beast. Buster rhymes. I know you you You

1796
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: recorded that one joint with him and Tip come On Down,

1797
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 1: which is a fucking banger. I love the fucking joint.

1798
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 1: So Buster rhymes just just as a fan as somebody

1799
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:10,719
Speaker 1: like Breakdown. Buster rhymes. He's an instrument. Buster is an instrument.

1800
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: I will sit here and debate anybody and their mother

1801
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 1: that nobody in the hip hop industry got better flows

1802
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: than Buster I was. I mean, I will sit here

1803
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: for two days straight and debate with you, your mom,

1804
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:30,719
Speaker 1: just your bodyguard. I don't think nobody flowed like Buster.

1805
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,759
Speaker 1: I mean it was like he changes up his flow

1806
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 1: so often, man. And there's this one song he did

1807
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 1: where he used the al Green beat called turn It Up.

1808
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: Like I was listening to it in the car and

1809
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: I brought it back. I'm like, wait a minute. And

1810
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 1: I sat there driving counting, and I'm like, Yo, this

1811
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 1: dude just changed his flow seven times or one song. Oh,

1812
01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: He's a piece ghost Face ghost Faces. I love ghost Man.

1813
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 1: Ghost energy is just you know, he's one of them

1814
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 1: dudes where like you know, as soon as he opened

1815
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 1: his mouth, you're paying attention. His energy is just crazy. Um.

1816
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 1: Bobby Womack, Who's my favorite? He's my favorite. I mean

1817
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 1: there's other ones who are different, but like he's like

1818
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 1: the unheralded, you know, underdog Bobby Womack. Bobby Womack. I

1819
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 1: mean he is like, you know the definition of soul.

1820
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's like Bobby Womack voice can crack and

1821
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: it's still saying funky like I'll never forget one. Um.

1822
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: One day, me and Gerald LeVert was hanging out and

1823
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 1: his Pops is with him, and we were talking about

1824
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 1: Bobby Womack. And this is what Eddie Lever said. He said,

1825
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:53,560
Speaker 1: when people want to hear soul music, they come to

1826
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: see the o Jays, they come to see the Ozley Brothers,

1827
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 1: they come to see Patti LaBelle. But when the o

1828
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 1: j is, the Osley Brothers and pag LaBelle want to

1829
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 1: hear soul music, we could see Bobby won't back m M.

1830
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 1: That's what Eddie Leavery said to me. That's dope Um.

1831
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: And then the last question, the last person I asked

1832
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 1: you about, because he's so synonymous with hip hop, it's

1833
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: so synonymous with with your early songs and the samples

1834
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 1: and Marley and everybody's songs. James Brown, what did he

1835
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 1: mean to you? His music, his style? He I mean,

1836
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 1: he's talk about a fucking artist, talk about unique, talk

1837
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 1: about game change and pillar fucking groundbreaking, like like it's

1838
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 1: like Mozart, Like the sounds that must have been going

1839
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 1: through this man's head. You can see how I could

1840
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 1: have drove him fucking nuts. I mean, I don't know what.

1841
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell was going through James said,

1842
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, whatever it was, it was magic man. I

1843
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 1: mean when you listen, I mean, in my opinion, you know,

1844
01:47:54,960 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: and it's debatable, I think that um rachels is the

1845
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 1: inventor of soul, you know. I think that Sam Cook

1846
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: is the voice of soul. But this is not debatable.

1847
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 1: James Brown is the person that defines soul. He's that

1848
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 1: person that put the music in a way where it's

1849
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 1: just undeniable, like follow this blue blueprint and you be

1850
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 1: I all right, big Daddy Kane, what can I say?

1851
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 1: Big Daddy Kane sincerely, I'm no bullshit. It's a fucking

1852
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 1: it means so much you you gave continue to give

1853
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 1: me so much fucking wheezy. Let let Caine live, Let

1854
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 1: Kane live, so much joy. You're literally like when I

1855
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: think about seeing you a Union Square and like it

1856
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 1: was just a moment, but I was like, who's this dude?

1857
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: You know you stuck out and when like you're such

1858
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: a part of my life. And then when you started

1859
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 1: rock and solo and everything that that just your whole ship,

1860
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 1: Like it means so much to me that you came

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Speaker 1: and rock with me like you you mean a lot

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Speaker 1: to a lot of people, but speaking to me like

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Speaker 1: you just mean so much. So I appreciate you rocking

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Speaker 1: me on the podcast. Man. You know, I'm a big fan. Man.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing but the utmost respect for you, and

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Speaker 1: I love how you keep it real man. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and then you also just like you know, you you

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Speaker 1: the dude that they put hands on a little bit

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Speaker 1: of Divine on Boston. That was the funniest shift. Big

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Speaker 1: Daddy came Iron Rap Ports Stereo podcast. All right, I

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Speaker 1: told you it was dope. I want to think my

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Speaker 1: very very very special guest, Dark Gable King Asiatic, Nobody's equal.

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Speaker 1: The Big Daddy came for Rock on Me on the

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Speaker 1: Iron Rapports stereo podcast. Um what can I say? We

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Speaker 1: made history. That was museum quality podcasting with Big Daddy Kane. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm done. I ain't got no more to say. Miles

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Speaker 1: Jordan's take us out of here with something real nice,

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Speaker 1: some real proper, but most importantly, some real funny