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Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming

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Speaker 1: up on this Football Friday, We've got one game in

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Speaker 3: How we feel? Yeah? How are you feeling, Jonas?

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Speaker 1: I'm good?

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Speaker 3: Are you talking?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I traveled all day yesterday. Too many delays all day,

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Speaker 2: but made it all day, man, literally, but I did

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Speaker 2: make it.

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Speaker 1: You're in the Burg, I'm in State College.

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Speaker 3: Well you're going you thought you're saying the Burg, all right.

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Speaker 2: So when they announced that I was doing the college came,

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to say the name because you know,

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Speaker 2: you're talking about my compet you know, my man.

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Speaker 3: I'm not like that.

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Speaker 2: All right. Well, they're taking care of my.

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Speaker 3: Room, which i'd hope they would, by the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're taking care of my See.

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Speaker 3: It all worked out, man, it worked awesome. Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: Burg would no Motel six.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say the Burg would have probably been

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Speaker 2: more fun today and tomorrow. But State College. Being in

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Speaker 2: State College is good.

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Speaker 1: You Yeah, you're doing game day.

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Speaker 3: He's a guest picker.

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Speaker 2: I'm a guest picker.

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Speaker 3: Did you miss that? Last night? We were on a

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Speaker 3: text chain together. Jonahs.

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Speaker 2: I think he's being funny right now.

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Speaker 3: What's doing? See?

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Speaker 4: I can't tell because honestly, he'll be like, dude, I'm

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Speaker 4: just so busy. I'm just I've got so many things

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? I have to throw the ball,

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Speaker 2: the baseball, then the football. Then we need to do

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Speaker 2: in practice.

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Speaker 4: Like sound just like, can I give you a piece

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Speaker 4: of advice that in all seriousness from two guys who

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Speaker 4: have a like just a bunch of kids.

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Speaker 3: You can't play that card with us. You just you

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Speaker 3: can't play like you really can't the all busy card.

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Speaker 3: You're not that busy. Trust me, you're not.

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Speaker 4: You're not that busy until until you get to having

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Speaker 3: You don't even have to yet, so you can't use

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Speaker 4: It is the most my wife talks about the sometimes too,

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Speaker 4: where there are people are like I'm so busy, Like,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, you're busy, okay, all right, Like there's no

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Speaker 4: there's no legitimacy to what you say.

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Speaker 1: Well, sorry, first of all, what does that have to do.

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Speaker 1: First of all, what does that have to do with

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Speaker 2: Try to don't try to ship it.

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Speaker 1: That's what you did, because that's what the original That's

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Speaker 1: what the original conversation was.

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Speaker 2: You're acting you're acting like you're unaware of the news when.

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Speaker 3: It because you missed it in group text.

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Speaker 1: I'm the one who sent it to you guys on

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Speaker 1: the group text. I'm aware I sent.

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Speaker 3: It to you.

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Speaker 2: I had to smoke you out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, smoke this then. I'm telling you right now, if

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Speaker 1: if Game Day, if Game Day went to Vampire State,

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Speaker 1: I would not appear if they asked me to. I

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Speaker 1: don't care what it is. I got loyalty, loyalty to

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Speaker 4: We've talked about this before. By the way, we always

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Speaker 4: said Jonah would be like Deuce, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Out, sorry, Jonas would be out. That's why I'd be

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Speaker 2: trying with the challenge every year. He'd be trying to

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Speaker 3: You something.

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Speaker 1: It's still a challenge.

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Speaker 2: That show has not worked to what Q or what

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Speaker 2: uh what Jonahs wanted as his advantage of getting ahead

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Speaker 1: Man, just a busy gather works. That's it. That's all

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Speaker 3: All right, that's all I'm about.

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Speaker 4: Think about something that works, still work. Even though that

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Speaker 1: For him, I still am not convinced that they're legitimate contenders.

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Speaker 1: But they are way better than I expected him to be.

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Speaker 1: Like I thought, this is going to be an awful

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Speaker 1: they'd be. And Sam Donald, I mean cart.

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Speaker 2: It was our fools goal.

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Speaker 3: Well didn't you pick in the wind that.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I picked them. I can't believe I picked.

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Speaker 2: Fools goal? But sor right?

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Speaker 3: You know, you know what I can't get over?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: How good? How good Vegas is with prop bets? For example, I.

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Speaker 4: Believe Darnold's like over under on passing yards was two

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Speaker 4: forty four or yesterday when we were doing more or less,

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Speaker 4: I kept looking at all these different you know, stats,

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Speaker 3: Did any of ours hit? Did any of our our

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Kyler Murray over rushing yards, I think it

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Speaker 1: was knocks locks twenty eight and a half.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah you go, okay, good for you.

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Speaker 1: I mean I needed a big scramble in the second

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Speaker 2: It didn't make it. He got it all right.

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Speaker 1: Good And by the way, LeVar, we talked to you

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Speaker 1: into Marvin Harrison Junior over to score over a half touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He did it.

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Speaker 1: Big win, he did it. There you go, big win.

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Speaker 4: So I guess I'm able to lose it. Trey Betson

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I actually think that Brady said something yesterday because I've

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Speaker 1: normally I'm the one who makes the best points, but

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Speaker 1: that's that's like sums up like Kyler Murray's on his

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Speaker 1: second coach, he's already been paid. Marvin Harrison Junior is there.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like whether it's the fool's.

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Speaker 2: Gold they hit their ceiling.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. And I don't know if the

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Speaker 1: ceiling was a high ceiling. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's a damn shame y'all hit. Y'all got dang ceiling

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't it was as tall as Kyler it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a job, a whole lot of people that

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Speaker 2: won't be able to stretch out. It's not a high

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Speaker 1: It it was a jockeys dressing room. That was their ceiling.

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Speaker 2: They got it. They got a crawl into their space.

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Speaker 2: That is not a high ceiling.

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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering now that we think about it. You

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Speaker 1: remember that playoff game. They had their only playoff game

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Speaker 1: I just I'm wondering, was that it.

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Speaker 3: Can they get back to the playoffs? Like it's a

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Speaker 4: And the imagine that ownership group wanting to blow up

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Speaker 4: the first six games of that next year, remember, because

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Speaker 4: they made the playoffs. They got blown out the next year?

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Speaker 4: Who is servant was Hopkins? Yeah, DeAndre six games suspension.

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Speaker 1: Pissed hot?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, he was on the gap.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that?

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Speaker 4: And then then they got off to a bad start,

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Speaker 4: didn't have a great year, and they're like, all right.

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Speaker 3: Let's blow this whole thing up.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, all right, well, I guess we're just

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Speaker 2: They got blown up and they haven't recovered since. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it just I don't know. I got to see parts

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Speaker 3: They don't have internet out there.

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Speaker 2: No, they had internet on the on the plane, but

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Speaker 2: you know sometimes.

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Speaker 3: On the plane.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you made early Amish country in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: We went through. They didn't have any they didn't have

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Speaker 3: any internet.

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Speaker 2: No, I was on the plane the whole whole day.

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Speaker 3: You do know Penn States surrounded by Amish country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, shippings Burg craftsmanship, what else? We went through

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Speaker 2: this before. We did the list of men and night

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Speaker 2: uh big men in nite towns in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: We did this, but I don't ever see them show

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Speaker 3: up for Penn State camps.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't under I mean and why,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you would think that they would because it's

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Speaker 3: Don't say Penn State.

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Speaker 2: But there's no technology needed. I mean, I've never seen

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Speaker 2: tail games. They be having some shot.

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Speaker 4: Jonas doesn't punched out of this group of people because

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Speaker 1: So oh well, yeah, they're irrelevant to me, like I

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Speaker 1: don't even and actually they don't know no more.

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Speaker 2: I'm around Jonas. I feel like Jonas is Amish and

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Speaker 2: that might be why he's not He's not taking any

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Speaker 1: First of all, the Amish. The Amish would be the

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Speaker 2: Might open Gerbils powered it.

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Speaker 4: They might accept it. They might actually put it next

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Speaker 1: They might use a horse for it. Once the motor dies.

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Speaker 2: Engine no, no, no gasoline engine up in there. He

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: You want to talk to you on your your bluetooth

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Speaker 4: and your truck is awful.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's bad.

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Speaker 3: It's like it sounds like you're talking in a tin can. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You look under his truck while you drive it, you

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Speaker 2: There he got a G eight eight eight. Yeah, some turbles.

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Speaker 2: That's that's out on the Seahawks. But I'm not a

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Speaker 2: Like he's he's he's a guy, like he's he's he

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Speaker 1: Herbstreet was really trying to will it into existence last

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he I mean, because he does just

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Speaker 3: But I don't want to put all on him.

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Speaker 4: Like That's the thing is, Kyler Murray's played pretty consistent

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Speaker 4: Like when do we ever talk about the cardinals B

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Speaker 4: They might have their stints, but not consistently. When do

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Speaker 4: they're at times good, but this team, the roster, everything,

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Speaker 4: it's it's never one that we look at and we say,

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Speaker 3: I didn't think that they should win the NFC West.

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Speaker 4: They should be one of the top teams in the NFC, Like,

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Speaker 4: kind of how they shape up versus Seattle. And mind you,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I've called these it's just weird.

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Speaker 4: They always play each other tough, They always play each

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Speaker 4: the roster's not where it needs to be. You know,

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Speaker 4: He played better last night, the big touchdown catch. You

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Speaker 4: But man, that pick like it was a perfectly thrown ball,

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Speaker 4: What's astonishing is it never happened for Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know what you draw the conclusion to, Like,

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Speaker 3: And have a bigger impact.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't think of one off the top

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Speaker 4: give it his pedigree, given everything we watched him do,

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Speaker 3: Football team right now, and he just got started.

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Speaker 4: Harrison's had a year, you know, he's had a year

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Speaker 4: still not consistently clicking.

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Speaker 3: If you're asking.

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Speaker 4: What's the one thing, it's it's probably that because that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a uh, it's a rough go last night

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Speaker 1: a big catch towards the end. I also thought this,

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Speaker 3: We talk about that though?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because for everyone who wanted to, what was the

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Speaker 1: Santos? It was Cairo Santos. It was the Bears Vikings,

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Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was the first

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Speaker 2: Like, this is the other end of this was one

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Speaker 2: that just happened. Yeah, this just happened. What you was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like this is the other end that no

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Speaker 4: It's like all right, it's not like this it's a

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not an easy spot to be in.

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Speaker 4: Like every I think everyone understood he was trying to

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Speaker 3: But then he kicks it too short. You know, It's

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Speaker 4: It's not an easy thing to do necessarily, So I

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Speaker 4: not sure if that's a good thing or a bad

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Speaker 3: It's it's I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's like when they move the pat back, all of

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Speaker 1: Can you guys pick up? You know, fifteen yards? Just

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Speaker 1: Are are bombing kicks now, like you it's no longer well,

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Speaker 1: they got to really drive deep. They got to get

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Speaker 1: and they're within field goal range.

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Speaker 3: Now it's wild and.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to accuse anybody of being on the gas,

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Speaker 1: but I just think we need to look into that,

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Speaker 1: all right. Just it's not this is abnormal distances that

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Speaker 3: So who's going to piss hot?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Who are challenging?

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Speaker 1: I don't know Jack is, what's what's he up to?

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Speaker 2: I don't know pissing hot?

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Speaker 3: Do you think levard piss hot right now? If you

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Speaker 3: tested them?

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Speaker 1: No? No, I think he does.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you think I'm pissing hot the way

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Speaker 2: I look, then what a waste of time?

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Speaker 3: Don't start doing that way?

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Speaker 2: What a waste?

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Speaker 3: Don't don't you don't you dare go down this road.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if I'm stand up for yourself, more

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Speaker 2: different than this, you stand up? I mean, do you

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Speaker 2: have to lift weights? If you use gas?

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Speaker 1: You should see Here's I think the problem. I think

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Speaker 2: You'll see Zion Williamson.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's.

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Speaker 2: A different type. He's he's he's unletted right now? Was

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Speaker 2: that Olympic? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: The problem is Lebar was doing you only look to

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Speaker 2: Did throw me off a little bit. After a good

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Speaker 2: I tuned out for that.

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Speaker 3: the that's.

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Speaker 2: What the headline headline, that's what the headline said. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're twins like Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger. And even

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Speaker 2: that's closer than what that was. That that's on that

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Speaker 2: that that picture and our kids, because the one daughter

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Speaker 2: then the other one kind of looks like, you know,

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Speaker 2: like you know, like he'd be like delivering your I mean,

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Speaker 2: she would be delivering your your mail, you know. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. One looked like SI swimsuit cover model. The

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Speaker 2: other one looked like they were like, you know, delivering

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Speaker 2: You know, That's what the other daughter looked like. Just saying,

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Speaker 2: why do butchers all look the same? By the way, like,

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Speaker 2: a butcher?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't think butchers look the same at all.

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Speaker 3: what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 1: going to be in Europe again this weekend. We've got

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, We've got the Steelers there in Dublin. You know, yes,

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Speaker 1: there to go see him. A big event for everybody,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's really fired up about it. And then Roger

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Speaker 1: Goodell says in an interview with CNBC that there are

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Speaker 1: international markets that could manage an NFL team, which I'm

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Speaker 1: sure that they are. I would just ask this question.

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Speaker 2: Have we really.

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Speaker 1: Gone everywhere we could in the US? Like, is there

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Speaker 1: no market in the US that could also support a

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Speaker 1: team that we need to grow at internationally? Is there

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Speaker 1: not a city in the US or a market in

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Speaker 1: the US that could use a little love from the

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Speaker 1: NFL as opposed to taking all of this and sending

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Speaker 1: it overseas to Europe, Like that's that's my big question.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's one about that, Like you're you're

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Speaker 4: you're not looking at this the way the NFL season

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Speaker 4: the NFL season as the way of growing the sport

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Speaker 4: to grow their bottom line. And I would say this,

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Speaker 4: tell me which is more valued a franchise in Jacksonville, Florida, or.

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Speaker 3: One in London, probably London. Okay.

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Speaker 4: What about the difference between I don't know, Carolina versus Frankfurt,

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Speaker 4: Germany or let's say doublin Ireland.

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Speaker 2: That one's more debatable because I mean, I mean Carolina,

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Speaker 2: it's not market. It's a nice market, it's not it's

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Speaker 2: a small market. It's how small well.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't I don't think it's I don't know, it's

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Speaker 3: in the top.

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Speaker 2: Twenty, Charlotte Charlotte R.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Keith talking.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: My general point is like, if you're looking at trying

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Speaker 4: to grow the fan interest and the franchise value of

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Speaker 4: these teams, the best way they'll be able to do

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Speaker 4: it is if they go to a larger city where

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Speaker 4: they're going to be able to be more absorbed by

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Speaker 4: that market, you know, create more value for their franchise.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's the immediate way you'd be able to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So and again, if you think it's bigger than you know,

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Speaker 4: some of these bigger international cities, it's it's not even close.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 2: Yah. I mean.

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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, I agree, but but but that's how the

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Speaker 4: that's the thing is, people aren't looking at this anymore

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Speaker 4: from as a fan that the second that you allowed

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Speaker 4: teams to be bought a best percentage of by private equity,

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Speaker 4: you should you The running is on the wall.

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Speaker 3: Folks like these, These owners don't care about the fans.

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Speaker 4: They don't. They don't a lot of business owners don't

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Speaker 4: we have hit an inflection point in our society where

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Speaker 4: You're either, you know, passing it down to your family,

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Speaker 4: and you're gonna try to run that thing as best

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Speaker 4: term for your kids. That's part of your legacy. That's

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Speaker 4: what you're leaving them. That's one route. We don't really

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Speaker 4: see that as much anymore. I mean, we were seeing

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Speaker 4: that with the Earth says, I guess with mister passing,

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Speaker 4: obviously he has been passing it down to his daughters.

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Speaker 4: You know, we see with some other organizations, the Rounies,

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Speaker 4: But in some cases look at the Broncos that you

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Speaker 4: can get passed down from mister Bowlan to his kids.

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Speaker 3: Those in a state, So they sold it. Now the

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Speaker 3: Wallden family is involved in that.

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Speaker 4: So the other direction is maybe the kids don't want

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Speaker 3: They don't want to be a part of that business.

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Speaker 3: Well then they're selling it.

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Speaker 4: And once you sell it, you're selling it to someone

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Speaker 4: who has no ties whatsoever, no history whatsoever with the

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Speaker 4: whatever that is sports team, name your business. And what

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Speaker 3: That's what this has become.

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Speaker 4: And so we can sit here right in the here

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Speaker 4: and now the short term and go, oh no, they're

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Speaker 4: But the reality is there is a longer term plan

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Speaker 4: of how the NFL is not going to plateau and

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Speaker 4: how it's going to keep growing and the franchise values

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Speaker 4: of these teams is going to keep growing. You know,

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Speaker 4: people look at flag football as being a part of

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Speaker 4: the Olympics, as this push for everything's going to move

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Speaker 4: to flag at some point one day.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 4: No, that's the easiest way to segue to get other

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Speaker 4: countries more interested in the sport of football. So then

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Speaker 4: once you get them in on flag, then they come

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Speaker 4: see the real version of them, like, dang, this is sweet.

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Speaker 4: We need to start doing this. And once that hits,

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Speaker 4: once that takes, you could say it's not gonna work.

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Speaker 3: It already is. That's the reality. It already is.

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Speaker 1: It's just a gateway.

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Speaker 2: Tried it, they've tried it before. It's not it will.

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Speaker 2: American football will never be more than what it is.

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Speaker 2: Too much more than what it is now.

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Speaker 4: Talk to me ten years from now, man, because because

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Speaker 4: the reality is what they're seeing is NFL Europe, right,

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Speaker 4: which was not are the starters, was not the best

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Speaker 4: of the best, laid the groundwork for a lot of

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Speaker 4: why you see the fandom of football today.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: It failed. It failed, and it didn't fail.

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Speaker 4: They chose to shut it down. They weren't to putting

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Speaker 4: enough money into it. And that's fine, however, but that

665
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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that it's not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's a fail That was NFL Europe.

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Speaker 4: NFL Europe was honestly, probably one of the greatest thoughts

668
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Speaker 4: for spreading the game of American football. Preparing quarter mind

669
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Speaker 4: you or even other players like that might have been

670
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: the best idea for a developmental league ever because players

671
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Speaker 4: who weren't getting experienced were getting experienced in real, live

672
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Speaker 4: game scenarios. Coaches who were maybe position coaches, they got

673
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Speaker 4: to call plays, they got to be coordinators, they got

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Speaker 4: to be maybe head coaches.

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Speaker 3: In some cases, So that was that element of it.

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Speaker 4: You had officials who maybe weren't ready for the NFL,

677
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Speaker 4: but they got that experience and they got some tread

678
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: on their tires from that. You even had broadcasters like

679
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: talk to Troy Aikman, talk talk to people who when

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Speaker 4: they first got into broadcasting, guys who went over and

681
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Speaker 4: did games over there, Producers behind the scenes, analysts on

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Speaker 4: camera like Todd Brady would have done some games where

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Speaker 4: he could kind of, you know, start off, start off

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Speaker 4: his career now on the biggest national stage.

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Speaker 3: All that stuff was one of the best ideas ever.

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Speaker 2: Development of it was as well developed and as successful

687
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Speaker 2: as you're saying, it would still be here and it

688
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Speaker 2: would be bigger.

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Speaker 3: That's no, that's not true, dude. That's not how business works.

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Speaker 4: Because there's great businesses that as but they're okay, you

691
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Speaker 4: don't doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't, it doesn't if it.

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Speaker 3: Does, not that it didn't work. The owners didn't want

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Speaker 3: to keep putting money into it. And that's the.

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Speaker 2: Problem is the business that well, explain how that? How

696
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: does that?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll explain on the sports Just how long did you.

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Speaker 2: Say it on earlier on in the in the segment

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Speaker 2: now you're saying the owners that's.

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Speaker 4: How you're trying to create value for the franchise right now,

701
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Speaker 4: So how long did it take Amazon to turn a profit?

702
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Speaker 3: Should they have just given up and didn't?

703
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: Exactly so, should should Jeff Bezos and just giving up

704
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: because they weren't able to turn a profit?

705
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Speaker 3: Like that's the reality of.

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Speaker 2: That's not an apples the apples conversation because the NFL

707
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: is the NFL, NFL is something totally different.

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Speaker 3: That was a developmental league. Yeah, yeah, development and so

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Speaker 3: they got.

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Speaker 2: Tired of putting to that point, No development league has none. Sure,

711
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Speaker 2: I think the only successful, the only successful outside of

712
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Speaker 2: the NFL football that works is Canadian League football, Like

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Speaker 2: that's it, which.

714
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Speaker 3: Which which actually is failing more than ever now.

715
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Speaker 2: Because I mean it's never been relevant here other.

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Speaker 4: Than they're changing post stars, they're actually shortening the end zone,

717
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: they're actually they're actually making a lot of changes to

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00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: make it more like American. But that's a whole other

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Speaker 4: separate discussion. But the point is is the idea of

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00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: what it was was actually really smart. It was really

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Speaker 4: good for the league at that time. I mean you

722
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Speaker 4: had guys like Kurt Warner, Like, there's guys who came

723
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 4: out of that who made big impacts in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: There's people who are in TV production, there's people who

725
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 4: are coaches that were like, man, that was a blast.

726
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: I got some experience, I learned a lot. So that's

727
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 4: that's an idea to me, sure, But but an idea

728
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: doesn't always become a great business. But what you're missing

729
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 4: is the fact that it did lay the groundwork for

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Speaker 4: a lot of the interests. Like when Jonas and I

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Speaker 4: go to Dublin and I talked to some of the

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Speaker 4: people who are interested about the game, some of the

733
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Speaker 4: people we'll mention or they'll be like, oh, I first,

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00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 4: you know slid back on the NFL Europe. Like people

735
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: would mention that, I know you would on that chat that.

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Speaker 2: Day, like that yeah, I wasn't on that trip, so

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Speaker 2: I can't exactly.

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Speaker 4: So I'm just telling you, like when people say that stuff,

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00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, okay, it did have its impact on that.

740
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Speaker 4: And so in regards to the comment about the bottom line, Yeah,

741
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: if you're able to move a franchise, Like if I

742
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 4: took a business from California to Texas and immediately it

743
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: became have a greater enterprise value, would that not be

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00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 4: increasing the value of just by simply moving the company.

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Speaker 2: I do not believe. I do not believe, but yeah, that's.

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00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: How it works.

747
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 4: You can move a business from one place to another

748
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: and it immediately can increase in value.

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Speaker 2: The infrastructure of what football represents will never grow to

750
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: that level in in abroad countries will.

751
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Speaker 3: So you don't think we'll ever get a team in London.

752
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: I think there will be a team that goes there eventually.

753
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: Do I think that it will be a successful, a

754
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: successful business venture to take multiple teams and end up

755
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: having multiple teams in Europe? The only way it's successful

756
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: is if you have advertisers and sponsors that see it

757
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: fit to to be a part of what the bohemoth

758
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: of the NFL is. Marketing and advertising wise, and their

759
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: their product is consumed abroad. Like to me that that

760
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: would be the only way it would make sense in

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00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: terms of it being a grassroots sport. It will never

762
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: it will never get to being a grassroots sport that

763
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: grows organically the way that intentionally the way it does

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Speaker 2: here in America.

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Speaker 4: So are you telling me that there's current sponsors of

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Speaker 4: the NFL that aren't global companies or don't want to

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Speaker 4: and maybe increase their reach.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying that would be I'm saying that would

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Speaker 2: be the reason why that would not reach accession that

770
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: would make you know, that would make it purely for

771
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: sponsor based driven content, and which is how how you

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00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: increase the way to be grassroots. It wouldn't be grass

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Speaker 2: I'm making it containable.

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Speaker 3: You're conflating the two points. I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not combining what NFL Europe was into anything other

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00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: than creating what the interest is in the American football

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00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 4: over in Europe.

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Speaker 3: By what that did that you.

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Speaker 2: Want to give a few couple of decades ago a

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00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: spectacle to go see, but it's largely a corporate driven

781
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: event abroad. Then sure you you put a team there

782
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: or maybe one more somewhere else and that that that works.

783
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: But you're talking about but if you're talking about putting

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00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: an entire division or a whole bunch of teams over there,

785
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't see it. I don't, I

786
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: don't see.

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00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: That's what went over there when we went over with

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00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: the Broncos. That's what they talked about. It would make

789
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 4: the most sense not to move one, but to actually

790
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 4: have four teams over there, because then as far as

791
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: the travel back and forth in the time zones, it

792
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 4: would be more advantageous for those teams to have an

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00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: entire division.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet that I know, Ray, I'll bet you I'll

795
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Speaker 2: fade you on that one. I'll faith I'll.

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Speaker 3: Just tell you what I was told this like over

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00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: a decade ago.

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Speaker 2: Listen, if I'm just saying I'll fade you on, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I do not think that there will be four teams

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Speaker 2: that successfully exists in Europe.

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Speaker 1: All right, well not well, I mean listen, you can

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Speaker 1: Good morning, guys, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 7: So, on the new episode of Up in Adams with

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Speaker 7: Kate Adams, former NFL MVP Seawan Alexander shared that his

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Speaker 7: wife is pregnant.

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Speaker 1: With a drum roll please.

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Speaker 2: They're fourteenth the child.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's awesome, Antonio CAMMARTI this second because I thought,

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Speaker 7: like Antonio Hammarty was like ten eleven kids, but no,

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Speaker 7: he has fourteen. So Shawn Alexander, he's in the rafts

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Speaker 7: and whatever.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. Good for him? Good for him?

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Speaker 2: Are you if?

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00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: If he called Jonas jo big od sorry man, you

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00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 4: got too much gold, too much?

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Speaker 2: Say so now? He did say that his his oldest

851
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: kids are old enough to be the like the great

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00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: uncles and aunts and that the ones beneath them are

853
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: actually old enough to watch them and take care of

854
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: them if they can't. But they got to get like

855
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: two buses, like they drive like two vehicles or something

856
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: to that. He's get a school bus. Just get one

857
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Speaker 2: of those buses.

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Speaker 4: Imagine calling for a dinner reservation party is sixteen?

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Speaker 3: Is that I need to call events?

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Speaker 2: No?

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00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: No, no, that's just our family, sixteen people.

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Speaker 2: It's wild, jeezeeen. Fifteen