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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. This is the Players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Anthony dor Set, De Montree

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Speaker 1: More and Newi Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: This is the Players Lounges, brought to you by Aristocrat Gaming,

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Speaker 2: and we are back here on a Wednesday hump Day.

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Speaker 2: The Montree Moore, I got it right today, right, Montree More,

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Speaker 2: Anthony door Set, we are short Newie Scrugs, and we

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Speaker 2: are short Baron Church. That's what rich people do. They

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Speaker 2: just can't go and do as they please when they want.

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Speaker 2: I am Jesse Holly aka Salt and Pepper Poppy running

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Speaker 2: the show today.

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Speaker 3: Fellas, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: What's good on Wednesdays? I normally asked my co hold,

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Speaker 2: so hanging with the boys, that's how? How is your

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Speaker 2: mentals and your dentals day? I should always say, so

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Speaker 2: we're good, you guys having a good, good day, good week?

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Speaker 4: The game? Man, I'm doing good. I played my game

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Speaker 4: Ghost of YETI so I'm excited right now.

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Speaker 2: I deal what that is.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good man. The dental I'm up for I'm

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Speaker 3: up for root now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You anybody ever had one?

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Speaker 4: I did? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Still, brother, Yeah, the metal was good. It was good, good, good,

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Speaker 3: good good.

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Speaker 4: What about you, brother?

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Speaker 2: I'm good man. My dentals is good, my mentors is good.

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Speaker 2: It's been a good week. I've enjoyed coming to kick

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Speaker 2: it with you guys this week.

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Speaker 3: I really have a little longer man already.

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Speaker 5: Can't do that, can't I can't do that, That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: No, But I do enjoy coming to kick with you

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Speaker 2: guys because for one, for me, I get to I

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Speaker 2: get to change seats, right, because on my show a

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Speaker 2: lot of times I get to do the bulk of

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Speaker 2: the talking and stuff like that. And then on this seat.

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Speaker 2: I do like hosting at times. I do like being

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Speaker 2: able to sit in this seat. It keeps my mind sharp.

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Speaker 2: It makes me have to prepare extra because I have

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Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm able to give out the

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Speaker 2: things to you guys, right, and so like it always

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Speaker 2: keeps my mind going. It keeps my mind sharp, It

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Speaker 2: gives me and and like we all know, in sports,

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Speaker 2: the more you can.

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Speaker 3: Do show your value.

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Speaker 2: More I can do. I always tell people listen anybody's replaceable,

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Speaker 2: but it's gonna take four people to do what I do,

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Speaker 2: so you MI will just keep the one it is

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Speaker 2: instead of having to go get four.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to be like your you just got it.

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Speaker 5: You know you don't give no secrets though he ain't

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Speaker 5: giving out no layups.

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Speaker 3: And he ain't giving out no secrets.

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Speaker 4: What do he said? Devil's advocate backed me up now.

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Speaker 4: He has been tutoring your boy backed me up now,

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Speaker 4: So I.

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Speaker 3: Me up a little bit.

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Speaker 4: He gave me that look like you better tell me

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm like, listen, I am.

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Speaker 2: I am an advocate of helping out my people when

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Speaker 2: I can all I can, because it does me no

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Speaker 2: good to keep the information to myself. And as many

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Speaker 2: I want to build a tree, I want to be.

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Speaker 2: I want to be able to be like man, I

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Speaker 2: got up here and I help so and so and

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Speaker 2: so and so and so and so, because you never know.

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Speaker 2: One day that person might be up here and I

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Speaker 2: might be like, hey, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I tell you that you see the same people growing up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I want to make sure I'm good going

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Speaker 2: up and I'm good coming down because somebody might like, yo,

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Speaker 2: come on in here right quick.

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Speaker 6: Ja.

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Speaker 2: You were good to me four years ago when I

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Speaker 2: was on my way up. So yeah, man, all right.

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Speaker 2: Coach Shottenheimer spoke for the first time today as the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys are starting to come back and do a little

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Speaker 2: bit kind of you know, getting back to normalcy, right,

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Speaker 2: And and I didn't hear it all, but I was

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Speaker 2: And you know, this has been on my mind for

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Speaker 2: watching the film on on the Raiders defense. And then

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Speaker 2: now you know he's been kind of going across the

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Speaker 2: how they shit better help run their game. And then

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Speaker 2: you're dealt with this extremely extremely unique situation, terrible situation.

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Speaker 2: And then now he has to kind of take the

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Speaker 2: you know, he wears a visa. He got to take

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: And so that that in itself looks like sounds like

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Speaker 2: it'll wear you down Jamaican, right, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: Like it just it just truly it truly wears you down.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, maybe kind of getting back into

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Speaker 2: that you're used to, right, the muscle memory of it

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless they take on the Vegas Raider saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: just from a player's perspective, this is the player's lounge.

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Speaker 2: You know, how how do you help your head coach?

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Speaker 2: If you're a veteran guy in the locker room, how

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Speaker 2: do you how do you help your coach? In this

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Speaker 5: I mean, and just by what you said first of all,

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Speaker 5: then don't even worry about We're going to be policing

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Speaker 5: because you know, just with everybody, just like you said,

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Speaker 5: right now, this doesn't fall on him that those words

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Speaker 5: the same time, and they want to heal from it too,

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Speaker 5: that being said, the focus, of course, is going to

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Speaker 5: you know. And it's not just about lightning a load

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Speaker 5: we know that, you know. And this goes on to

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Speaker 5: say winning brings about an environment for all great things

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Speaker 5: the record number one, but then just the morale that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Man. As far as being that VET, I think

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Speaker 4: about what you said, he taking one hat off. He's

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Speaker 4: going from coach. But then what you said ad that

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Speaker 4: title or figuratively speaking that hat is go from being

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Speaker 4: being a father figure, you're going to be a brother

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Speaker 4: to some of these guys. If you're a true VET

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Speaker 4: and you've been around the league. I think about guys

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Speaker 4: might see him as that older big brother that you

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Speaker 4: it's the head of the family and the dad that

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Speaker 4: says the president, he leaves it, but also that leader

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Speaker 4: needs help some time, and so you're gonna have your

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Speaker 4: vets coming in there taking ownerships. You might see some

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Speaker 4: people coming in here a couple hours earlier, thirty minutes earlier,

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Speaker 4: a coach howes today, going, are you're good today? Cool?

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Speaker 4: If you need me to help, that's where your good

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Speaker 4: or something like that. He might just suggest after the day,

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Speaker 4: be like, this is gonna be their first real work day.

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Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken. Coming into the building right after

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Speaker 4: now you're gonna have your good vets that come in

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Speaker 4: room is not there, so how can we pick it up?

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Speaker 4: And Shoddy being a good players coach coming in here

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Speaker 4: So just like we say, the back end gotta help

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Speaker 4: goes from the top of ownership gotta help the coaches

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Speaker 4: and the coaches got to help the players to the players,

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Speaker 4: got to help the janitors, everybody that was in there,

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Speaker 4: because you got to remember, this is a big thing

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Speaker 4: cook for you every day, that's used to seeing you,

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Speaker 4: my girl Ms Rachel over there. All these people are families,

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Speaker 4: So it's not just the players. You have to do

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Speaker 4: the whole environment. And so it's gonna take everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right now they're back, they're schedul to get back

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Speaker 2: on the practice field tomorrow. But you know, Koch Shatti

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Speaker 2: said spoke today, you see guys kind of trickling in

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Speaker 4: going to see a lot of full man slides that way.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna see a lot of run on the motion.

436
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 4: You have Geno Smith back there. That's a mobile quarterback.

437
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 4: So you're gonna kind of tell Gino, hey, you move away.

438
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Speaker 4: I mean Dak, I'm sorry, I said Dak. Yes with Dak,

439
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sit there and have Dak moving on the

440
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 4: run with the play action pass, having your emotions going

441
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 4: over there to slow down and just get away from him.

442
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Speaker 4: It's not like you have somebody at nose tackle that's

443
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Speaker 4: dominant right here. That's a perennial pro bowler. It's just

444
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Speaker 4: going right there for him. So that's going to be

445
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 4: the difficulty. But also with that, you're eliminating yourself our

446
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 4: tight end right now. He's bawling right now, and for

447
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 4: us to use him in as a blocker, you're gonna

448
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,239
Speaker 4: call on George Pickens CD the running back. Y'all got

449
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 4: to step up. There's gonna be more opportunity. So it's

450
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Speaker 4: a double headed sword, but the best way to do

451
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 4: it full slide with one guy on your d line

452
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Speaker 4: versus having two or three guys.

453
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Speaker 5: You know, I I being it. I never had to

454
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Speaker 5: put my hand in dirt and pay that play that position.

455
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Speaker 5: I definitely agree with Trey saying. But another thing that

456
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 5: you got to do too as well. You got to

457
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 5: give an offense a chance to strike him. So you

458
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 5: got to run the ball, all right, and you know,

459
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 5: and then the thing about you know, running the ball

460
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Speaker 5: with him, of course, And why I say that, because

461
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 5: of course, you know everybody at home. Offensive pass that

462
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 5: is more so of a catch thing. Offense lineman stepping back,

463
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 5: catching the blocks, trying to you know, keep away from

464
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Speaker 5: the quarterback at the point where we're running the ball,

465
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 5: the Cowboys running the ball, that offense lineman gets to

466
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Speaker 5: come off the ball and like lay some leather on

467
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Speaker 5: somebody across from him. So you definitely want to try

468
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Speaker 5: to do that because of course that's going to wear

469
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Speaker 5: and tear on him too as well. You get into

470
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Speaker 5: some tricky situations, and that's one of the reasons I

471
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Speaker 5: think that we haven't seen a lot of the young

472
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 5: backs here because once you start trying to bring backs

473
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Speaker 5: in to help with pass protection and things like that,

474
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Speaker 5: it doesn't seem like, you know what. I can't speak

475
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 5: for it myself, but you know your backs have to

476
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Speaker 5: be good at pass protection where you're leaving them in

477
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Speaker 5: all right, And just like you said, with Ferg balling

478
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 5: the way that he's been balling, you don't want to

479
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 5: keep him inside so much as just to help on it.

480
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 5: Help trying to keep a cross away from getting to

481
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Speaker 5: the quarterback. So the thing is to be, like I said,

482
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Speaker 5: run get the ball out of Dax's hands. As fast

483
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 5: as possible, you know, no more long routes to the materializing.

484
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 5: It's going to take like five four seconds or whatever.

485
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 5: Get that ball out in two seconds however many seconds

486
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 5: you need to get it out and keep trying to

487
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 5: move the ball like that. But like he said, that

488
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 5: dude is a straight hustle guy. He got pass rush

489
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 5: moves and everything else like that. But his will to

490
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 5: win is one of his greatest assets. So you know,

491
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 5: when you play against people like that, it's gonna be

492
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 5: a long day.

493
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Speaker 3: Regardless.

494
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Speaker 2: When you talked about running the ball at Max Crosby

495
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: and just running the ball in general. Stat to kind

496
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: of go with that, the Cowboys are three to zero

497
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: to one when Javonte Williams has one hundred yards from

498
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: scrimmage in their own five when he doesn't. So I

499
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: think that is also important and critical, you know, you

500
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: know in it all now you know the you know

501
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: when you when I went back and I was watching

502
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of the Broncos game that they played,

503
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Speaker 2: and they they they fared well against the Broncos. They

504
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: held the Bronco I think the ten points, two and

505
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: twenty yards. You know, of offense, it's it's It's kind

506
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: of a lot of teams have come and played the

507
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: Cowboys and looked like world beaters, and then they go

508
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: on to the next game after the Cowboys and it

509
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: looked like they looked very, very very mundane and average. Right,

510
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: But was that, well what we saw against Denver from

511
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: this defense? Does that worry you a little bit when

512
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: it comes up to the Cowboys office, because it's kind

513
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: of been staggering the last couple of weeks.

514
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Speaker 3: You know. I think of like, we're new, he's here.

515
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 5: We always say certain styles make fights and everything else

516
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 5: like that.

517
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Speaker 3: That's the team.

518
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 5: They played Chether twice a year every year. Yeah, you know,

519
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 5: they're more than familiar with each other. So when it

520
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 5: comes down to it, I think that that played into

521
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 5: it a little bit at the same time.

522
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: And their team is built like you normally you build

523
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: your team guys in your.

524
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: Division exactly right what I'm saying.

525
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 5: So, so that that was that was definitely a benefit

526
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: for the Raiders that night. I think that that was

527
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 5: such a low scoring game. I can't remember what the

528
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 5: score was, but I know, you know, and going into

529
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 5: those games, you know, being yeah, you know, being a

530
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Speaker 5: Raider too as well.

531
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Speaker 3: Anytime you had those divisional.

532
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Speaker 5: Games, it didn't matter what was going on, whether it

533
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 5: was Denver, the Chiefs or whoever. Like, those games were

534
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 5: just typically going to be some hard fock games, you know. So,

535
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 5: But do I think that that's that that that's what

536
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 5: we have to look for it from the question was

537
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 5: from from the Raiders or the defense. Yeah, I think

538
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 5: that that's that's that's part of their identity right now,

539
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 5: you know, And that's that's been something that they've been

540
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 5: trying to establish for the last few years there with

541
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 5: the different changes in different head coaches and everything else

542
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 5: like that, the defense can travel. They brought Devin White

543
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Speaker 5: in as as a linebacker, and you know, one of

544
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Speaker 5: one of one of my former teammates is actually the

545
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 5: secondary coach out there too as well, and I know

546
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 5: how he gets down and how he coaches. So that

547
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 5: defense right now is trying to be, like I guess

548
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 5: you could say, one of the saving graces of that

549
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 5: team if they have one, because you said Gino is

550
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 5: not the geno that we saw the past two years

551
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 5: where he got there.

552
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: Gino said, they wrote me off, but I didn't right

553
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: back lost in the.

554
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Speaker 4: Don't do that.

555
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this. You know, just Gino that's playing

556
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: you know right about now, isn't isn't what people thought that,

557
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: you know, it would be from the Cowboys. Like, let's

558
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: just talk about the Cowboys offensive perspective a little bit here,

559
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: because we talked about Max Crosby and stopping Max Crossby.

560
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: You know, this offense has been a little bit, like

561
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: I said, staggering in the last couple of weeks. It

562
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: came out the gates against the Philadelphia Eagles in formidable,

563
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: and then they took took off and even with the

564
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: absence of CD Lamb, it's still was one of the

565
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: best defenses in the entire football league. What are some

566
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: of the things they have to do to get back

567
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 2: to that? Was it opponent base? Was it just the

568
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: ebb and flow of the season? What are something that

569
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: they do to get back to that?

570
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Speaker 3: Real quick before he jumps into it.

571
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Speaker 5: I really think that what happened was with the loss

572
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 5: of CD, the team had to figure out what they

573
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 5: were going to do, right. They didn't know that George

574
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 5: was going to ball out like that, so the balance

575
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 5: seemed like that was gonna be the most the best

576
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 5: thing we could do, and let's make sure we got

577
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 5: some balance. George comes out here and likes this thing

578
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 5: on fire. The next thing, you know, it was like, okay, well,

579
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 5: you know, we got to get CD back into it

580
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 5: too as well. And I don't know if it was

581
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 5: that to change the balance of what the play call

582
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 5: has been, but just like you said, like they've gotten

583
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 5: away from the run, like in such a large amount

584
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 5: that they were doing before, and now I just think

585
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 5: that like they honestly got to try to figure out, Okay,

586
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 5: George can play, CD can play, but we got to

587
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 5: get back to some true balance here.

588
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, I just oh, no, you good.

589
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, those are my safe sentiments as far

590
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: as not necessarily getting back to it, but trust in yourself,

591
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: Like stop playing down when they go out there. We've

592
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 4: seen this offense be the best majority of the time,

593
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: but we've also seen them play down to their competition,

594
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 4: regardless of what that is. And so I would just say,

595
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: get back to playing football, get back to having fun,

596
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: Get CD out there doing celebrations with George, get Javonte

597
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: getting his touches, moving the ball, running over there, Get

598
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: that offense a line ain't too feeling confident like they're

599
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 4: going to get against one guy right now, and just

600
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: really trust your football, trust the schematics, and use that pressure.

601
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: But the biggest thing right now is you have to

602
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: get back to knowing your true identity. Because as much

603
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 4: as we talk about Mass Crosby, we're not talking about

604
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: this guy right here. Patrick Graham, the defensive coordinator that

605
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: has a lot of respect around there, that was over

606
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: there at the Giants for many years and seeing guys

607
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: like Dak Prescott, a young CD Lamb. So he has

608
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Speaker 4: some familiarity over here, and he's a good defensive coordinator

609
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: that can make these adjustments, and so he's gonna want

610
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: to use that. He's gonna want to use the momentum

611
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: that he has right now coming and playing a good defense.

612
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll being the defensive dominant head coach, me being

613
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Speaker 4: around him, I know him the way that he's going

614
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: to go in there and talk to them. He's going

615
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 4: to say, hey, gud, forget what the record says, go

616
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: in here and look what we just did this last week.

617
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Speaker 4: He's going to show them their highlight table, make them

618
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 4: believe in it and eat it and say, hey, defense,

619
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Speaker 4: y'all are the backbone right now. So the Cowboys should

620
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: be worried about this game, and this can be one

621
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Speaker 4: of those trap games that makes me a little nervous

622
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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, so we'll take our last break of the show.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, I want to get a little messy.

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Speaker 4: Ah, yeah, you go, you go.

626
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Speaker 2: I want to get a little messy because you you

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Speaker 2: spark something that that that has been has a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a little bit of a smoldering heat to it. Ok,

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Speaker 2: And so I want to get a little bit messy

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Speaker 2: and see where there's smoke or smoldering will be an

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Speaker 2: I am Jesse Holly, sitting in for Newie Scruggs. Barry

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Speaker 2: is somewhere being rich as he as he shook. All right,

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Speaker 2: when you're rich, you did do rich stuff. I got

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Speaker 2: Demontree Moore, I got Anthony dor sat And so I

691
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Speaker 2: told you, guys, there's been this this smoldering and it's

692
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: not caught fire yet, but it's smoldering, okay. And you

693
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Speaker 2: made a comment ad and it literally jumped like right

694
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Speaker 2: to the forefront of my thinking. And so I'm like,

695
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: you know what, what the hell, let's get that messy.

696
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: Let's get a little messy. And the comment that you

697
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: made was that when Ceedee Lamb went out with the injury,

698
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: with the ankle injury that he had against that he

699
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: got against the Bears, and he missed those three or

700
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: four games. You know, George Pickts really ascended and really

701
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: took off and was the focal point of this passing offense.

702
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 2: And some may say that when Ceedee Lamb came back,

703
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: that balance or that cohesion or that chemistry was kind

704
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: of not what it was before the injury, and that

705
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: it may felt like they were kind of, you know,

706
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: forcing the ball there. And some people, not Jesse Holly,

707
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 2: but some people have been saying, you know, we need

708
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Speaker 2: to focus and make the offensive passing game focused around

709
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: George Piketts, not CD Lamb. And so here's something. Here

710
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: are some of the numbers. Pickens has a higher catch

711
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: percentage yards per catch, His yards per game UH per

712
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: game average is more than Lamb. He's also has six

713
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: touchdowns to Lamb's touchdown. He has a higher PFF grade.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, my messy Jesse question to you, a d

715
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: to you, Demontrey, should George Pickens become Dak Prescott's new

716
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: go to receiver?

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Speaker 5: You know, I think that what GP had a favorable

718
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: advantage of and don't and don't cancel out what he's done.

719
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Speaker 3: Over previous years.

720
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Speaker 5: But he was not that go to guy, and so

721
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 5: going into a lot of those games, he was not

722
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 5: viewed as a CD Lamb.

723
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: Type receiver prior to those games.

724
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 5: Okay, so he wasn't he We don't got to double

725
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 5: that dude all the time.

726
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: We don't.

727
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 5: We don't necessarily got here do a whole lot. We

728
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 5: don't need to worry so much about him right now.

729
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 5: Second game into that that injury with CD, I think

730
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: that's where people started to take notice and say, Okay, well,

731
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: you know, maybe he is that number one guy. You know,

732
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: this league is such a what have you done lately

733
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 5: for me? League that people will tend to forget you know,

734
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 5: exactly who you are and what you're cable of doing.

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Speaker 5: Long story short to answer the question is should he be?

736
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 5: I think there are games where he definitely should be,

737
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: and CD should definitely be. From time to time, when

738
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 5: you have such a two headed monster like that, I

739
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 5: think that you could switch it up and attack him

740
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: from all different angles.

741
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: And it doesn't necessarily have to be wrong.

742
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 5: Or right who that guy is on that particular day,

743
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 5: just as long as somebody is that guy all right

744
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 5: and not going to a place where you can't figure

745
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 5: out how to make one guy or the other the

746
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 5: guy that neither one of them actually get to go

747
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 5: out there and have prolific type numbers that they can have.

748
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: So do I think he should be the main go

749
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 5: to guy? I think that it should be game planned.

750
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 5: I think it should be schemed. But I think that yeah,

751
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 5: he definitely should have that option or that benefit every

752
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: once in a while. Why why why continue for a

753
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 5: gamesmanship as we'd like to say, continue to make CD

754
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 5: the primary dude every game, all game, you know what

755
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 5: I mean? So, like, I think it would give the

756
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 5: Cowboys a little bit of competitive advantage to be able

757
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 5: to use them both but trick teams and not know

758
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 5: which guy is gonna be able to do it.

759
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: But you got two number one? So why not use

760
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Speaker 3: two number one? As we can't?

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Speaker 2: Coach Schottenheimer has said when they were asking about not

762
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: this week, but a couple of weeks ago, maybe even

763
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: at the training camp, and they were talking about the

764
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: addition of George Pickers and how he and Cedee Lamb

765
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: are working on the offensing, Coach Shottenheimer's you know, he said,

766
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: cause the question was about how do you disperse the

767
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: ball monks all of these weapons that you now have.

768
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: You have Ferd, you have CD, you have George, you

769
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: got Javonte, you have you know, a pluthoro of weapons

770
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: that you have into this mix. And Coach Schottenheimer he

771
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: said that you know. He said, I gotta, I gotta.

772
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 2: I got a big on sheet. His has got rings

773
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: on it. So they like they flip. They got flipped,

774
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: they flip over. And he was like, well, I got

775
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 2: I got a section that's for CD. And he said

776
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: that section has more plays on it. And he said,

777
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: I got a section for George Pickens. Now he has

778
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: a lot of players on there, but he doesn't have

779
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: more plays on there than Ceedee Lamb, and so on

780
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: and so forth, and and and so I say to

781
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: to what you said.

782
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 4: You know.

783
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase in Cincinnati, they get him the ball and Tie.

784
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: Higgins is good.

785
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: Pee Higgins is perfectly fine, could probably be a number

786
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: one receiver if he wasn't flanked across that guy. And

787
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: for as long as I've been doing this, and Ceedee

788
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: Lamb has been the league, especially over the last couple

789
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: of years, he's been grouped in with those guys. He's

790
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: been grouped in with the Ceedee Lamb, Jamar Chase. Justin Jefferson,

791
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: when Tyreek Hill was Tyreek Hill, you could say I'm

792
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: a Rod Saint Brown like Ceedee Lamb's name has always

793
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: been in that conversation. Never has George Pickens never, never, ever, ever.

794
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 5: I will say this, all right, CD, has he proved

795
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 5: me wrong? Okay, because as we always say, well not always,

796
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 5: but as we've said in here before, Cowboys talent is

797
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 5: always a little bit overrated from time to time.

798
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: Okay.

799
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 5: And so that being said, like I didn't I didn't

800
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 5: see CD being what he is today, all right now.

801
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 5: The only argument I can make for George before he

802
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 5: got here, he didn't have Dak Prescott. He didn't have

803
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: a scheme like this, He didn't have He just wasn't

804
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: on the right team.

805
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 3: And he wasn't getting.

806
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: To use one of your words, your phrase is my

807
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: devil's advocate to that is ceedee Lamb has seventeen hundred

808
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: yards over one hundred and thirty five catches, and he

809
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: ain't had no George Picks across from him. So he

810
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: had and it was we jokingly said here, it was

811
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: CD in a bunch of babies. So he was getting

812
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: the double teams, he was getting the safety shed you know,

813
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: shedding to his side.

814
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 5: Of this had justin Fields throwing him the ball, and

815
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 5: like Mason Rudolph or somebody like that.

816
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: That's a fair argument. It's a fair argument it's a

817
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: fair it's a fair argument. And so I come to you, Trey.

818
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: I've presented the question. We've heard one side of it.

819
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: You heard my side of it.

820
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 4: I mean I heard your side. So what do you saying.

821
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: You're saying no, I've been saying I've been saying this

822
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: since day one. To me, this is just Jesse Holly,

823
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: this is not this is I'm looking the camera. This

824
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: is my opinions did not reflect Newie scrugs buried Church

825
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: to Montree Moore, Anthony Dorr said, my opinions reflect me,

826
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: and I stand on them. They don't have two number

827
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: ones here. They got one, and they got a really,

828
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 2: really really good number two. Ceedee Lamb is the number one.

829
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb has shown you time and time and Ceedee

830
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: Lamb was still out there last year with one arm,

831
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: with a backup quarterback, when he could have easily shut

832
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: it down when it wasn't playoffs, wasn't even nowhere near

833
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: in sight, and he went out there weekend and week out,

834
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: what with jay O Tober on the other side, and

835
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: and and and and Jake Ferk wasn't on this team.

836
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: It was hurt and I don't.

837
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 5: Know, people shut it down, bro, Like I hear you

838
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 5: say that, like you could have shut it down.

839
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Speaker 4: They shut it.

840
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: People, people, people shut it down.

841
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 5: But but those aren't the football players that we talked about.

842
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: But it actually is though. It actually a lot of

843
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: a lot of guys shut it down. You've seen You've

844
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: seen Tyreek Hills.

845
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: And he and he went out there. He went out

846
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: there and put up some more good numbers with the

847
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: backup quarterback and old opposite receiver. The season was pretty

848
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: much cooked, and he just went out there and went

849
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: to work every single day. So I've been saying this,

850
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: I stand on this, and this is this is I

851
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: had a lawful from this. I ain't rolled the fits

852
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: about this since training camp. I think George is an

853
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 2: exceptional player.

854
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: I think CD is good. Let me shut up, go ahead,

855
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: go ahead.

856
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: I forget said I think I think George is an

857
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: exceptional player. I think he has a Niam Lilson, whatever

858
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: his name is. He has a particular set of skills

859
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: that is really good at Liam Nilsen Ceedee Lamb is

860
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: the better overall receiver. To me, I'll give it to you.

861
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 4: I know I'm just a defensive guy and this and that.

862
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: But like you said, you mentioned earlier. What have you

863
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 4: done for me lately? Is the league? It's been the

864
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: league since the league has started. You're only good as

865
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: your last rep and your last rep. Hear me out

866
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: of America, I stand on mine. You can go look

867
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: up the film. Chris Bean can talk about it in

868
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 4: the back. But how many times have I been laying

869
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: it up, asking questions weekend in week out? When do

870
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: we give this to George? And I say that to

871
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: say that George right now is the number one. He

872
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: has the hot head. Just like in basketball, you don't

873
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 4: get off of the shooters and right now the guy. Yes,

874
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 4: you pay CD to do all this, but if you're

875
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: truly believing what you said and what you forced fed

876
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: to the media saying this is a one A and

877
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 4: the one not you but CD. This just came out

878
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 4: of CD's mouth. This has came out of shot his mouth.

879
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: This just came out of everybody's mouth. But George, George

880
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 4: did nothing but coming here, be quiet, work and putting

881
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 4: the extra effort to say, hey, I'm gonna show y'all

882
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: what I am. And now that he has a quarterback,

883
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: he's doing all those things. And when I look at

884
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: George right now, where he's going with his momentum. He

885
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: gives me a young Mike Evans. He's going out there.

886
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: He's the guy that's the era up there. He's bringing

887
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: the energy. He's going out there blocking people and telling

888
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: people six seven like I'm catching a body while doing that.

889
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: Like with CD, yes he can catch. Yes, he can

890
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 4: run every route on the tree and you can move

891
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: him around. But guess what, you score a touchdown. George

892
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: is doing that by far. He's blocking by far, and

893
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 4: he's the energizer. Why would you say, hey man, let

894
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 4: me diminish this because this guy has the big name contract.

895
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: Let me diminish this because we're force feeding CD to

896
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 4: be in those conversations. Right now, go with the hot hand.

897
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: Get you what was doing because guess what, when George

898
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: was your number one, the offense was doing good. When

899
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: CD came back and George was still quote unquote getting

900
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: fed those numbers and doing that, CD was doing better.

901
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: So right now, lead, go with your leading horse.

902
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 5: You've had you've had an opportunity to watch CD work

903
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 5: for since he's been here.

904
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: And like right here on the field, you ain't had

905
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: that with George.

906
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 5: You haven't seen it, so like, and then what you

907
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 5: what you've seen is you've seen the different opportunities that

908
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 5: CD has got.

909
00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: Because you're right here.

910
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 5: You haven't seen the playbook, the play calls, or anything

911
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: like that that George has had or the opportunities that

912
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: he's had. So I think that what honestly has to happen.

913
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 5: And I think that you know, like how you said

914
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 5: America's standing over, I think you're a little bit judgmental

915
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 5: right now, based off of what you've been able to

916
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 5: see of one and that of the other.

917
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: You got a whole book of one, but.

918
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: I've watched both. Watch what I watched both.

919
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 4: Of them not the same.

920
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 5: You ain't had the day in and day out of George.

921
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 5: You've had him for since training camp, right all right?

922
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: And so then George being George, are understanding like I'm

923
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 5: in a new situation this, I'm not the man here,

924
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 5: so I'm sure like he didn't come in with that

925
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 5: type of attitude.

926
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: Now I could watch and tell who's the better rout runner.

927
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: Oh, but yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

928
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I'm talking about.

929
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 5: I'm talking about you can run the routs all day,

930
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 5: but about catching the ball and getting open.

931
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: And like, I don't care.

932
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 5: I see dudes running routes all day, obstacle courses, these dudes, and.

933
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: I know them routes ain't getting open.

934
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 5: Now when it comes down to it, the contested catches

935
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 5: and what George has been able to do since he's

936
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: been here, he's played like a number one, just like

937
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 5: he's you know what I mean, And so that that

938
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 5: goes on saying. And I'm gonna say this, and i'ma

939
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 5: stand on this. See these numbers or ce these numbers.

940
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 5: He got some awesome numbers. But he's not a Jamar Chase.

941
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: He's not. He's just not and and and Jamar.

942
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 5: Chase is totally different than me when it comes to

943
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 5: a lot of receivers, you know.

944
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: But he got those numbers and he's right up there

945
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: with him.

946
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 4: All right.

947
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 5: Now, I'm looking at give give George Pickings the opportunity

948
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: minus the CD lamb here, all right and put CD

949
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh, and let's see what they actually let's compare that,

950
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And let's let's honestly, let's

951
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 5: let's give George the opportunity to have the opportunities and

952
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 5: CD has had because he hasn't had him since he's

953
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 5: been here or anywhere else.

954
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 4: Can we take it a step further to I guess

955
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 4: help your case. I agree with what he's saying. But

956
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: what is the big thing that everybody go do right

957
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: now to check your credibility and how good you are?

958
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 4: Pff pff goes be not you. But I'm saying most people,

959
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 4: when you make these lists and talk about these top receivers,

960
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 4: you go and with PF the way that you judged

961
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: America with the PFF, y'all should know you go for

962
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: your production to play ratio. If you're looking at that

963
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 4: ratio and what CD has gotten over his overall body

964
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 4: at work. And like you said, ad from what we've

965
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 4: seen in this little bit of George in this year,

966
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 4: like it's all been good, like the I feel like

967
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 4: the potential and the ceiling is a lot higher because

968
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: we haven't seen all this. This is his first year

969
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: in the offense. This is the first year with a

970
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 4: good quote unquote top five quarterback in the league. So

971
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 4: I think the ceiling is higher for him to where

972
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 4: it's like you said, I've seen CD already for these

973
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 4: Plethorabia is here with dak with the backups and in

974
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 4: the Dallas environment. Let me let me fan that fire

975
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: right there. You got Amber, you got the smolder going

976
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: over there with George. Why not see what you really have?

977
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: So at the end of the year when it comes

978
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 4: that time, are you gonna tag him? Are you really

979
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: gonna pay him like a number one? Or is it

980
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 4: going to be a Jamar Chase and the T Higgins

981
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: type situation? You don't know right now? Mmm.

982
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: Man, I just say I hear numbers lying. You know

983
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, you feel like, and numbers don't lie.

984
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: And CD is very versatile line up.

985
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I want to interrupt you.

986
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 3: CD very versative line up everywhere.

987
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 5: But George is putting up them numbers from just being

988
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 5: able to line up outside.

989
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: You said, you said numbers don't lie. Well, if numbers

990
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: don't lie, he had, you're not gonna make your number

991
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: one guy that's leading the team in touchdowns and having

992
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: the momentum and stuff like that. If numbers don't lie,

993
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: that is that he's clearly the number one right now.

994
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: Because the other number is for there's how many games

995
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: that CD Lamb is missed because he.

996
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: Got hurt like you availability is.

997
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: But like like it's not like he was doing this

998
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: and CD language is over there not doing anything.

999
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: Hey, so who the George have opposite him?

1000
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: When CD wasn't When when CD wasn't there because you said,

1001
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 5: you know, CD whatever to put these numbers up where

1002
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 5: he ain't had nobody opposite him.

1003
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: George went up there and put them numbers where he

1004
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: ain't nobody didn't either.

1005
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: He had he had a he had a running game

1006
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: that was going and was here last year to and

1007
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: flor Florin on the other side for when forgot hurt,

1008
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: Remember forg got hurt last.

1009
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: Year, he had to eat who last year that played for?

1010
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 5: Who was the receiver last year that was it was

1011
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 5: jeling Tobert Okay.

1012
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: The year before that had.

1013
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: So I don't know, listen, it's debatable. It's debatable.

1014
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Is anybody wrong, It's all debatable all opinions. It's all opinions,

1015
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: and and that's the that that is, that's America. We

1016
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: get to have our own opinions, whether you like them

1017
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: or not. We get to have them.

1018
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: Who the hard cover is if you was a D

1019
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: all day long.

1020
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: All day long as a dB, you would much rather

1021
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: have to deal with a dude who's only gonna run

1022
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: three routes four at max than a dude who has

1023
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 2: the entire repertoire that you have to deal.

1024
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 5: The only time we get tough is when you honestly

1025
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: start to move inside. Moving inside makes things a little

1026
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 5: bit different. But but this dude has a has a

1027
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 5: great ratio of contested catches and field shoulder downfield shoulder

1028
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 5: on Georgia does matter city?

1029
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 4: Y'all?

1030
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: Y'all forget the contested catches that ceede Lamb's made diving catches.

1031
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: Form the matrix had Minniesoda, What have you done for?

1032
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: Remember the middle of the matrix one he had in Minnesota.

1033
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: Remember him going across the mill. There's a ton of them.

1034
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: There's a ton of them with this year.

1035
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: I love when receivers and dvs get.

1036
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: That Minnesota catch this year.

1037
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 2: No, you don't, But you're going off of You're going

1038
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: off of the history of George making the fifty fifty

1039
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: catches this year.

1040
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the ones he's made since been in

1041
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: the building.

1042
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: Nobody's wrong, are you what I'm saying that?

1043
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: All right?

1044
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: Liked talking, It's I knew it would flame up some

1045
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: of the smoke. I lout flame up some of the smoke.

1046
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: So that's a great thing. And we'll continue to watch them.

1047
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 2: And honestly, like and I know this means for everybody

1048
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: in here, honestly, we hope both of them have spectaculars

1049
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: because they're hooping and they're bawling. The cowboys offense is

1050
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: out of this world. So we're just having the conversation

1051
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: and and and that's what that's what this is the

1052
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 2: This is the debate type of thing at the times.

1053
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 2: You get if we all agreed all the time, then

1054
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: what fun would that be? That's fun? But all right, man,

1055
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: this is the players lounge for Demontre Moore, for Anthony Dorset.

1056
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: I am Jesse Holly. Hopefully we'll have rich Barry Church

1057
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: back tomorrow and knew when we be out for the

1058
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: rest of the week, and I hope that you return

1059
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: for us to tomorrow because we're gonna have some more

1060
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: locker room type conversations and I might stroke up a

1061
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: little bit more messy Jesse, stand on, who're gonna stand on?

1062
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: What?

1063
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: Tomorrow?

1064
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 4: Man?

1065
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 2: All right, thank you God so much. That's it for us, man,

1066
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 2: be out of here. Pace.

1067
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,560
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1068
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,560
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