1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Dirty Birds. What's up and welcome back. I'm your host 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Will mcfatt and I am joined by Tory mcleaney and 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Taron Walk and we're here to recap the last practice 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of the preseason before roster cutdowns before the final preseason game. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Got a lot to discuss, but unfortunately, as it's Wednesday, 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: August twentieth, three point fifty pm, after practice, we got 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: to talk about some big news. Yeah, that happened. First, Tarn, 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: you want to walk us through that. 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: The Falcons starting right tackle Kayla McGary was carted off 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: during practice. From where we were standing, which was like 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: the opposite side from where the injury happened, you could 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: not see exactly what happened. But what was interesting and 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: may tell more about the injury than anything else, is 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: the fact that team period hadn't even started, So it's 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: not like it happened during eleven on eleven. It either 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: happened during position drills or in between the two periods. 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: Because all of a sudden, you just say, the whole 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: team huddle together, And I genuinely thought at the time, like, oh, 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: they're just having a pre team huddle last practice, who 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: rof let's go, But then all of a sudden, you 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: see the cart leave and you can see he was 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: in pain and like it was definitely his left leg 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: that seemed to be giving him his issue. But this 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: is from a distance, so I can't say definitely, but 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: it seemed to be his leg and he did not 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: return to practice. 27 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously, you know, when when you see a 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: situation like that with a starter, somebody who signed a 29 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: contract extension not too long ago as part of the 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: team's future has been since he's been here, it's it's 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: really hard to take. And that is certainly something you 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: do not want to see in camp in the preseason 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: at all, frankly, and it's what teams try to avoid. 34 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: But it wasn't the only news involving the right tackle spot, today. 35 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: Was it Tarren No news came out about Storm Notte 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: and the backup tackle that he has to undergo surgery 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: for what we always knew as a lower body injury, 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: but it's reported that it's an ankle surgery Adam schefter 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: yet Adam Schefter, and that it could possibly be six 40 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: to eight weeks out. 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if he has to miss that period of time, 42 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: if Kayla McGary, you know, is out for an extended 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: period of time. Again, we don't know the prognosis on 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: that right now. Maybe good, but we don't know. Tory, 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: what's kind of your level of concern now about Atlanta's 46 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: right tackle position, which is Michael Pennock's blind side. 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: I am very concerned. I was concerned about tackle depth. 48 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: I was concerned about offensive line depth just in general, 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: even going back to last Friday night when we were 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: watching the second preseason game against the Tennessee Titans. And 51 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: I mean, the second team offensive line has been a 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: group that I feel like I've talked a lot about 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: because of the they're kind of not really wowing me 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 3: in camp and not really wowing me in the preseason. 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: And it is concerning when you see holding penaltys, you 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: see false start penalties, and there were just some operational 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: things that not being able to run the ball like 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: there are just some things that have popped up over 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: the course of camp in preseason that was concerning me 60 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: before we even are talking about the injuries and the 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: news of today, regardless of how those things ultimately end up. 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: And I'm sure we'll get more news down the road. 63 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: As you know, we know that Cayleer McGarry's undergoing an MRI. 64 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna get news about that soon, But 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: to me, it's like there was already a level of 66 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: concern that I had for offensive line depth, particularly at tackle. 67 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: Now it only heightens it. And I think, like my 68 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: concern has gone from if I already was concerned like 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: out of six, like all of this injury news, and 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: I guess the timeline that we'll be working with after 71 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: all of this is something I am if I was 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: at a six before, I'm out of eight now, And 73 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: so I think when I look at where this thing goes, 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: I think you got a I mean, fifty three man 75 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: roster cut downs are right around the corner, as we 76 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: will talk about in this show. 77 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: And I do not think that you can't. 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: I don't think you can afford to overlook potentially some 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: tackles falling off of other fifty three man rosters elsewhere. 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: I don't think you can overlook the idea of putting 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: packages together and going out and getting someone like I. Really, 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: I think that we're at that point where that has 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: to be priority number one. 84 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's rewind the clocks a year when this happened 85 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: in Miami and you had Braylen Trice and the Marco 86 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Hellms both go down. Kind of what happened in the 87 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: immediate athmath Matthew Judon and Justin Simmons, And you know 88 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: they'll say that that wasn't necessarily related. But you wonder 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: if you gotta fill the void exactly, do they have 90 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: kind of anything in the coffers? They have assets they 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: feel they can move because if Kaylea McGarry is going 92 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: to miss a significant amount of time, that is significant, 93 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: not to reuse a word there, but like you need to, 94 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: I think replace him with a starting caliber player. And 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: I did a little trip around the free agency pool 96 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: of who's still out there. There's not a lot of 97 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: big names and starting caliber guys. So you know, if 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: they need to, there's a lot of avenues they can pursue. 99 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: But Taren, what do you think, like, isn't an in 100 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: house guy and is it Elijah Wilkinson they've been kind 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: of given some reps on the outside or do you 102 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: think that they'll give a serious hard look at players 103 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: who get cut and external candidates to bring in. 104 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: I think you have to do both. I think you 105 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: put an extra eye on Elijah Wilkinson in this Friday's 106 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: final preseason game against the Cowboys. Wilkinson is who stepped 107 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: up today in practice and filled in the McGarry size void. 108 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Speaking of like filling in a void, you just have. 109 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 5: To do it. 110 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: And when it comes to looking elsewhere, let's get through 111 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: this weekend. First, Let's get through roster cuts because you 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: might have to look elsewhere. 113 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, because at that. 114 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: Point too, you're what today's Wednesday all the way to Tuesday, 115 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: six days, you'll know more about how injured Cale McGarry is. 116 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, the significance. 117 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: So who knows justin fields was carted off in the 118 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: first practice of preseason and then he was back. I 119 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 2: don't know that this is the case just because of 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: how it happened. You were talking earlier about like non 121 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: contact injuries could be even worse than a contact injury 122 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: or I don't. 123 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: Know if I phrased that correctly. You phrased it better 124 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: than me earlier. 125 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Historically in my experience, non contact is can be a 126 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: bad indicator. Yeah, it can be a fine indicator, but 127 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: like you. 128 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: Know, you never know, And look at me being the 129 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: positive Polly, like maybe. 130 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 5: He just tweak something in the heat, I think again, 131 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 5: I go back to what I was like, regardless, No, 132 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 5: I have to face the fact of like, tackle depth 133 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: is not where you needed to be, and I think that, like, 134 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 5: and then I'm also saying, just. 135 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: To throw an idea out there, someone tweeted me and 136 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: was like, so is Matthew Bergern going to move back 137 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: to tackle? He was a college tackle at Syracuse for 138 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: four years. And I'm like, no, let's not be moving 139 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: things around. Go if it's one of those things where 140 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: cayleb McGarry can potentially come back a couple weeks down 141 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: the road, you you know you maybe you get them 142 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: back after the bye week, make it to that point, 143 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: don't go like changing things around. 144 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: Like at this point, let's let's pump the brakes on. 145 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: Moving anybody and see what you can do, both with 146 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: your in house guys, but also I if I'm Terry Fano, 147 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: i am in the entire front office, all I'm doing 148 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: for the next six days is have a list of 149 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: every tackle in the league and figure out what you 150 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: can do. Throw different scenarios at the board and figure 151 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: it out. 152 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: Hope the MRI comes back better than what everyone thinks. 153 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: I would have a line of call operators, just like plugging, 154 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: plugging them in, getting people on the line and talking 155 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: to gms across the league. 156 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's text messages to all of them. Yeah. 157 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: Ultimately, at the end. 158 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: Of the day, we don't really know where this thing 159 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: is exactly, and I think you have to look at 160 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: all avenues and you know, of course, like fallow along 161 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: on Atlanta Falcon, we will have as much information as 162 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: we can get as this thing moves forward, and as 163 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: we get more information about the significance of the Kayla 164 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: McGarry injury. So make sure you're just you're checking along 165 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: with that as this news rolls through. 166 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Yes, and there's a chance, as as Tarren said that, 167 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: by the time you hear this episode, yeah, you have 168 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: developed and things are different. So this is a fluid situation. 169 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: But let's go ahead and get to kind of what 170 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: we had planned to talk about today anyway, which are 171 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: roster cuts. This the news on Wednesday obviously plays a 172 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: big role, as we just discussed in roster cuts, but 173 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: this is the time of year when you've got some 174 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: players on the bubble, people are debating who should make it, 175 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: who shouldn't. We thought we'd go through a little bit 176 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: of the same exercise here. So we've got four of 177 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: the key guys I think are really competing for a 178 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: spot on this fifty three minus roster, and we're going 179 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: to start right at the top with with Clark Phillips, 180 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: who was last year's CAM champ, now dealing with a 181 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: rib injury and has missed a good bit of a 182 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: second part of training camp. The last two press. All right, Taren, 183 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna argue for Clark Phillips making this roster, and Tori, 184 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna make the case against it. 185 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: I think even with the rib injury, you're gonna go 186 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: back and look at last year's film and kind of 187 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: just the experience he has on the defense and give 188 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: him the benefit of the doubt in this case, Whereas 189 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: if it's someone who has no experience and was injured, 190 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: I'd be like against. So I think it's different just 191 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: because Clark has so much experience in Atlanta, where if 192 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: it was someone who hadn't played in this defense or 193 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: in this city that it would be against. 194 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: So my whole thought process when it comes to Clark 195 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: Phillips is like, let's say that you carry six cornerbacks. Yep, 196 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: Your six are gonna be Mike Hughes AJ trail Natron 197 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: Brooks because he has earned himself a roster spot in 198 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: my opinion. Billy Bowman d offered, and I think your 199 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: sixth spot is either going to be between Clark Phillips 200 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: or Mike Ford, and I say, and I say against 201 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: for Clark Phillips because I think, similar to Neutron Brooks, 202 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: Mike Ford has played a lot of different positions for 203 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: this secondary. In the last two weeks, especially, he's been 204 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: rotating in at nickel. He's worked some outside reps in 205 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: preseason games. We know for a fact he is a 206 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: big special teams player. I don't know if I can 207 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: say the same thing about Clark Phillips. So if you're 208 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: looking for a value, what value does somebody add at 209 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: this point in time, because I feel like I haven't 210 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: seen Clark Phillips and then it's unfortunate that this rib 211 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: injury came when it did, and it's unfortunate that we 212 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: haven't really seen Clark Phillips working in that nickel spot 213 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: the way that I think the Falcons maybe even originally 214 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: planned for him. Like I go back to I was 215 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: at owners meetings and Raheem Morris is sitting there being like, Yeah, 216 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: we're thinking we're moving Clark inside to Nickel. We had 217 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: we didn't see Clark Phillips at all play Nickel during 218 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: training camp when he was healthy. So if you're already 219 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: working under the assumption that that value goes down because 220 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: he's not cross training and he's maybe not having a 221 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: big role on special teams, to me, it's like, how 222 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: can you How can he take up a roster spot 223 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 3: for somebody who does have that value and can move 224 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: the needle for you in that way. So that's my 225 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 3: that's my two cents on that. 226 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: I am curious. 227 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: I want people to sound off on the in the 228 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: comments about what their decisions on these things would be too. 229 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: Another name that I do think is something that we 230 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: can so someone that we can really talk about is 231 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 3: David Sills, the fifth and honestly make the case. May 232 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to make the case again again with the 233 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: same exact way of thinking. David Sills is someone who 234 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: has worked his way up I think the pecking order 235 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: of the roster. I think he is somebody who has 236 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: and tearin. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but 237 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: he's been taking first team reps, both in the spot 238 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: of Drake London kind of acting as his clone per se, 239 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 3: but also alongside Drake London is kind of this like 240 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: big receiver set, So there's already kind of a push 241 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: for him at receiver. But then also something that came 242 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 3: up last preseason game last Friday night was the fact 243 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: that Raheem Wor said they really wanted. 244 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 4: Him to focus on special teams. 245 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: And again it goes back to adding value, adding value 246 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: if you have someone who if you're going to carry 247 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: seven receivers, like you got to have somebody who can 248 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: do a little bit of everything. And the fact that 249 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: they were like, let's see what he can do on 250 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 3: special teams to me and like, to me, that kind 251 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 3: of shows me that they're really really trying to figure 252 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 3: out a way for him to be on this roster. 253 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: But see, here's here's the thing, is like the fact 254 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: that they're now having to just work him into special 255 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: teams and things like that, I agree, like that could 256 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: be an indicator of all, right, we have a vision 257 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: for you and we want to now add a little 258 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: bit more to your plate. But when I look at 259 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: the Attle four wide receiver specifically, you do see a 260 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: lot of guys with special teams chops specifically at returner, 261 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know where Sill's like value 262 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: is specifically in that role. I've seen them work. De Alford, 263 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: I've seen him work Dylan Drummond like some of those guys. 264 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: We know Rey Ray does that. We know that Jamal 265 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Agnew was brought here kind of to do that, but 266 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: he's been injured and hurt. So there's just so many 267 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: kind of unknowns to me. Yeah, and I think that 268 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Casey Washington stepping up, on the one hand, helps clarify 269 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: some things. On the other hand, it does muddy the 270 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: water right a little bit because now you're looking at 271 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: at Drake, Darnell, Ray, Ray, Kadarrel. I assume who's one 272 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: of those special teams cases Casey, that's five, right, And 273 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: then whom I'm leaving off. 274 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 4: Jamal Agnew, Like what happens with him? 275 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: See Jamal if like he do we have him penciled in. 276 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't know he could be a player word debating 277 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: right here exactly. And then now I'm just thinking with 278 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: the offensive line stuff, right, if you're gonna be light 279 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: at one of these positions, receiver I do think is 280 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: a more available position out there. I really think they 281 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: like David Sills. I'm not even necessarily arguing against the player. 282 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: It's more the circumstance and building together the piece of 283 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster and a sixth or seventh 284 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: receiver at this point in time when you're just looking 285 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 1: at the first four weeks maybe and you need a 286 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: tack like does the value proposition change there a little bit? 287 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: And I think the math may have. 288 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: And also think about this too. The Falcons are not 289 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: a team that has not carried a lot of receivers practice. 290 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: It's not an offense. 291 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: But like, yeah, that to me also kind of is like, Okay, yeah, 292 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: we're talking about David Sills, Dylan Drummond, like Jesse Matthews, 293 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: like Nick Nash, the all of these receivers that are 294 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: Chris Blair keep going on, Like all of these guys 295 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: I think could show up on this practice squad at 296 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: some point or another. So but you know, we could 297 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: talk practice if we really wanted to spend an extra 298 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: thirty minutes here, we could talk practice squad guys continuously, 299 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: But we don't need to do that. We need to 300 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: move forward the next guy on this list is a 301 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: guy who I think it's very interesting. I think that 302 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: he is under the same set of circumstances as Clark 303 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: Phillips in that he has been injured for a lot 304 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: of training camp. We have not seen him, but we've 305 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: seen other people step up at the position. In that 306 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: person is Carlos Washington. Will you are arguing for Carlos 307 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: Washington on this roster? 308 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: Why heck yes, I'm arguing for Carlos Washington because I frankly, 309 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: I think he looked better in practice then he maybe 310 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: has his entire time here and I think, frankly better 311 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: than the other three candidates behind him trying to kind 312 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: of knock him from that presumed third spot, right And 313 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: because he hasn't been out there, I think Nathan Carter 314 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: has really been a player who has stepped up. Obviously 315 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: at the touchdown on Friday, could have had another really 316 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: long run that kind of got discounted unfortunately. So he's 317 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: doing the most in that spot. But Carlos Washington has 318 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: been here, He's got the trust of Michael Petrie, the 319 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: running backs coach, He's got kind of the organization, he 320 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: knows that room, and again he played well before he 321 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: got hurt. So is there you know, an opportunity to 322 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: maybe squeaking pass waivers bringing back on the practice squad, 323 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Like who knows, But I think he has done enough 324 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: just historically to kind of warrant that third running back spot, 325 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, with it being Tyler all Jeers last year, 326 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: like you'd like to maybe have somebody that you feel 327 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: very comfortable with on the roster. I don't know, if 328 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: right and how they want to kind of like jettison 329 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: off the rest of their running back room and just 330 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: go in with like Jon and Tyler and then introduce 331 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: a new guy kind of with that situation. So I 332 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: think Carlos Washington Raheem even said today with some of 333 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: these players that have been injured, you got to look 334 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: back at what they have done, what you know about them, 335 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: because they're not out there to show you anything new 336 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: right now. So you compare the new with kind of 337 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: what you know, and you make that decision. And I 338 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: think we know a good bit about Carlos Washington, and 339 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: I like what we know. 340 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: It's funny that you said the circumstances between Phillips and 341 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: Carlos Washington are similar, because I'm doing the opposite for 342 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: the two I know. I know that's why I think 343 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm really curious to see what you're sorry. Well, Carlos 344 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: has been here, and I really like Carlos. We've talked 345 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: to him, We've gotten to know this, and I do 346 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: think he was having his strongest camp yet. Multiple people 347 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: said so. But I think, my it's not even benefit 348 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: of the doubt this time. But I think the injury 349 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: in this case because he doesn't have live game reps 350 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: like Clark did last year, or at least not nearly 351 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: as much experience in live games in like not including 352 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: preseason at all. 353 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: Here. 354 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, I could see Carlos not making 355 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster for that reason. So I 356 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: think that's my difference between Clark and Carlos is the 357 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: experience in live games in the regular season. And so 358 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: I also think a big reason for this. And I 359 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: kind of really liked how Torri and your fifty three 360 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: man roster. You only kept two running backs I did, 361 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: which is that's. 362 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: Why I. 363 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, really bold. But at the same time, I think 364 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: this offense is gonna have to make sacrifices with how 365 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: much depth there is on the defense. 366 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're gonna care a freak ton of defensive line. Yeah, 367 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: and so if. 368 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: You those numbers are gonna put John Robinson and Hyler 369 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: Algier strap in, it's gonna be a ride. 370 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: Buckle up, let's go. 371 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh I got. 372 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm just it's a good point though, with the two 373 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: running backs on the fifty three, it's like it's tough, 374 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: but you you make the fifty three initially to get 375 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: to that cutdown limit, and then you can tweak after that. 376 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: So just because they have two on the fifty three 377 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're going into the first game with 378 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: only two running backs and oh my gosh, what happens 379 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: if you know So that is just a caveat for sure. 380 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap up the player part, and then I 381 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: do want to just we started talking about the offensive 382 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: line at the top, So once we talked about this 383 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: last player, just get a little thoughts on maybe how 384 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: many actually end up on the fifty three. So just 385 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: be thinking about that. But you two, in the meantime 386 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: are gonna be talking about d Angelom alone, a player 387 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, well known amongst listeners of this podcast because 388 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: we we love them. So I'm gonna give taren you 389 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: the easy job you can targe for dangel Yeah. 390 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: I stood my ground on D'angela Malone last year, put 391 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: him on my fifty three man projection, and I'm going 392 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: to do the same this year because he is an 393 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: asset in multiple facets. 394 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: Ooh, there you go, there you go? What was that? 395 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: That's the one right there? But he made the roster 396 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: last year because of his special teams contributions. He was 397 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: a huge standout and I'm pretty sure Raheem Morris said 398 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: he is a special teams starter. Was that him? 399 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: He also said that he's the barnyard bully of special 400 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: teams for uh this team? 401 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: So I love that. And now because he is cross 402 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: training from being out on the edge too insidelinebacker, I 403 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: think there are It's like with David Sills. They're trying 404 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: to find a way to keep him where he's involved 405 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: in more than one way, except it's the reverse where 406 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: David Sills has the offensive experience and they're trying to 407 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: get him involved in special teams. It's special teams for 408 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: D'Angelo Malone. Where can we best put him the defense? 409 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: So the only reason I'm going against d Angelo Malone 410 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: is because they are making me and. 411 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: I do I do? I do well. 412 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: Say, I will say I'm playing Devil's advocate here more 413 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: than I feel like I actually feel this way. I 414 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: love Dangelo Malone. I agree with what Taren's saying. I 415 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: think he is adding value. I wrote a whole freaking 416 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: story about dangel and Malone and the cross training he's 417 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: doing and why Jeff Ulbrick felt this would be something 418 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: good for him to do, and how he falls into 419 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: the same vein as even a Kaden Ellis or a 420 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: Jalen Walker. 421 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: So I say all that to say, but he shouldn't made. 422 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: But but d'angela Malone not on the fifty three man roster. 423 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: I think the argument that I can present that makes 424 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: the most sense in my head is like, Okay, what 425 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 3: happens if Troy Anderson is at one hundred percent? What 426 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: happens if your inside linebacker group is at one hundred 427 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: percent and you have all of your guys they're very healthy? 428 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: Death is really good. You feel really good about where 429 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 3: it is. And then what happens if at edge rusher 430 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: you also feel very good about where you are depth. 431 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: You also feel good about not having injuries. You also 432 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: feel like you really don't need that one piece. Yes, 433 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 3: I do think Dangela Malone adds value to kind of 434 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: the depth part of all of that. But if we're 435 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: talking about needing a roster spot for someone who's gonna 436 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: make an immediate impact on the defense or even the offense, 437 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: is that person Dangelo Malone? And if it turns out 438 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: that you are carrying Troy Anderson on the roster, do 439 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: you even need D'Angelo Malone as an inside linebacker? If 440 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: you are very healthy at Edgdresser, do you feel like 441 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 3: you need Dangela Malone? 442 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think you do. 443 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: Would they have cross trained D'Angelo the D'Angelo Malone if 444 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: Troy Anderson was not on pup. 445 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 5: I I and also Ronnie Harrison they so, I do 446 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 5: think they. 447 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: Still would have because Jeff Olbrick said when he came in, 448 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: so we're talking back in January February, and he's evaluating 449 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: this roster, d'angela Malone was someone he identified as someone 450 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: he would like to see moving more to a stack 451 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: line back. 452 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: I think it's like a defensive design yea. And how 453 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: they want to use certain guys to create these like exotic, 454 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: confusing looks for players. But to your point, I mean, 455 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: you feel you have two of those guys in Caiden 456 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: and Jalen. You've added Divine Diabolo, who I really like 457 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: it inside Liemacker. We don't know where Troy stands, but 458 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: stands the reason you could get him back at some point. 459 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: And then j D. Bertrand you know, is there too. 460 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: And I like what Josh Woods. He's an experienced Everyone's 461 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: Special Teams chot, so like there are options here for 462 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: this team at inside linebacker. And even though Danchelong alone 463 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: is an interesting and good young player who've made some 464 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: splash plays late last year, yeah, it kind of becomes 465 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: it's a good thing, I think ultimately, right because we 466 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: were talking about d Angelo alone like last year and 467 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: previously about like all right, he's he's going to potentially 468 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: be like an important piece and yeah, and now it's 469 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: all right, is he gonna make the roster? So let's 470 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: circle back to offensive line because I do think that 471 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: that is going into Friday's game like the number one 472 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: thing that at least I'm gonna be kind of like 473 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: looking for position group wise, how many do you think 474 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: Tori are actually gonna end up making that initial fifty 475 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: three man roster at this point. 476 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: I do think eight or nine I think is a 477 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 4: fair number. 478 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I use a falthy number. 479 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 3: I do think it's a healthy number because I do 480 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 3: think that Okay, yes, just because they make it an 481 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: initial fifty three man does not mean that they stay 482 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: on that initial fifty three or do not stay on 483 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 3: the fifty three man I tend to when I'm going 484 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: through roster construction. In my own mind, you have your 485 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: starting five offensive line, you have a backup center, you 486 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 3: have an backup interior, and you. 487 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: Have a backup tackle. So that's eight. 488 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 3: I do nine because I think, just the way this 489 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: roster is right now, you do have a draft pick 490 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: who you could potentially hold on to that number nine 491 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: spot in Jack Nelson. But even in saying that, again, 492 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: just because you have these guys on the fifty three 493 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 3: man roster come Tuesday's cuts does not mean that we 494 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 3: are not switching out three or four individuals on either 495 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: the practice squad or the fifty three man roster when 496 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: other individuals fall off of other rosters across the league. 497 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: So even though I'm saying, like a healthy eight or 498 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: nine that you're penciling in I think, honestly that number 499 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: is going It's not necessarily the number. To me, it's 500 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: who is the number? And how does that change is 501 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: kind of how I see it. 502 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 2: Who I agree that eight is like a healthy number. 503 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: But after the injury, some other media members and I 504 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: were discussing it and we're like, it wouldn't be that 505 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: big of a surprise to see six, or. 506 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. That's why I'm right. Is I'm 507 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: actually on the lower side. Is I kind of think 508 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 1: for for your reason, like if they're not maybe going 509 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: to be on the fifty three long term, then then 510 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: use those extra spots on a guy like D'angela Malone, 511 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: on David Sills, on players who I do think have 512 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: earned this spot on the roster. If don't just kind 513 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: of keep a guy just to save that spot, if 514 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: your intention is to kind of like swap him out 515 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: on Thursday, yeah, go ahead and keep that spot for 516 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a very heavy practice 517 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: squad of offensive linemen, and I think you'll evaluate them 518 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: for kind of that week and then you make a 519 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: call up or two maybe going into Week one, to 520 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: bolster your depth. But I don't know, I could see 521 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: this being a lighter group than usual. 522 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 4: I think that's incredibly fair. 523 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: And I actually think that y'all are convincing me, like 524 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: on the spot, you know, Like I think that that 525 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: is a very compelling argument, Like would you keep an 526 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: offensive lineman on the roster and forego a Clark Phillips 527 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: or Carlos Washington simply for the sake of having eight 528 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: offensive linemen that you potentially don't even really think is 529 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: going to have the opportunity to be up on game day? 530 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: Like it, it's a great thought provoking question. 531 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: Scholars have debated for years. 532 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: Have debated the fifty three you else, rely, I don't 533 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: have to make these decisions. 534 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: It's challenging when you go through exercises like this, And 535 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: I encourage anybody at home go make a little mock 536 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster prediction. Tory had hers come out. 537 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: It was excellent. I'm gonna have mine come out on Friday, 538 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Terren Scottger's on Sunday, Monday, Sunday. I think, so it's 539 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: going to be it's gonna be like a high time 540 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: of fifty three minute roster predictions. We're all probably bound 541 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: to be wrong. Maybe one of us is right, maybe 542 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: all of us right, who knows, but do your own 543 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: I encourage it's fun exercise. So really quickly before we 544 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: wrap up today's show, as I mentioned, final preseason game 545 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: on Friday, eight pm Eastern Time against the Dallas Cowboys, Karen, 546 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: I want to know one player that you are interested 547 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: to watch on Friday night. 548 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: Just whoever plays at right tackle, whether that's Elijah Wilkinson 549 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: again or if they get some switcheroo in there. I 550 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: think all eyes have to be on that position given 551 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: Wednesday's injuries. 552 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, because you know, between Jack Nelson and 553 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 3: Elijah Wilkinson, who they were both playing tackle. I think 554 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: Jack Nelson has been playing predominantly right tackle over the 555 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: course of the preseason, and Elijah Wilkinson went from left 556 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: guard that first Friday Night to then left tackle this 557 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: past Friday night. 558 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 4: So I agree. 559 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: For me, I'm really looking forward to watching CJ. Henderson play. 560 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: I this is somebody who I think I have you know, 561 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 3: followed along with his career. He was in that same 562 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 3: draft class as AJ Traill, Jeff Akuda, like you know, like. 563 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: There were that's a great corner class. 564 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: But here's the thing is, like only AJ Trareill has 565 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: truly established himself as the top dog of that group. 566 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 4: So good on the Falcons, like the. 567 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: Draft, like that was a fun class coming out. I 568 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: guess yes, but yeah, you're right. Yeah didn't really pin up. 569 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 4: So we didn't really get to see CJ. 570 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: Henderson at all last week because the Falcons didn't sign 571 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 3: him until really late in the week. And you're not 572 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 3: just gonna throw somebody out there like the day after 573 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 3: they get signed here when they haven't even been on 574 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 3: the grass. So RAHIEMWRS talks about like acclamation period and 575 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: that we will potentially see quite a bit of CJ. 576 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 3: Henderson on this Friday night in Dallas to kind of 577 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 3: just see what he has. And I don't know if 578 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 3: that's gonna change anything at all. It may be a 579 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 3: little too little, too late, but I'm looking forward to 580 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 3: seeing what he has. I think that's a very very 581 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: interesting signing at this point in time in the preseason. 582 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: We actually talked to CJ. Henderson today too, and there 583 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: was an analogy used that I really liked that he's 584 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: implementing at the moment is he's kind of cramming for 585 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: a test essentially, because you're trying to learn the playbook 586 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: and with the game already this Friday, it's just kind 587 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: of cramming that information. And so if you're a good grammer, 588 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a now sure, but like 589 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: if you're good at cramming before tests, I kind of was, 590 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: then we could see a lot out of him Friday, 591 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: because even just Wednesday today in practice he had an 592 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: interception with the second team defense. 593 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: And he's got nice size, you know, he'd have a 594 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: little size to the group obviously for me for something. Yeah, 595 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: there's something interesting there. Yeah, And if he plays well 596 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: on Friday, like I do, think he could add a 597 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a unique element to this cutdown. Mine 598 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: is going to be a player in the trenches. Lakale London, 599 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: who is you know, somebody who I don't think a 600 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: lot of fans are super familiar with. He's been like 601 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: a preseason darling of mine. I think the last couple 602 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: of years. 603 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: I've thoroughly enjoyed the London since the day that Grady 604 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: Jarrett went down with the season ending injury two years 605 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: ago and Kalen stepped up, and I thought he played 606 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: very well at the tail end of that season. 607 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: He did I mean, he he was really good and 608 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: enjoying practices too, and some of the individual drills. I've 609 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: noticed him in both preseason games kind of making some plays. 610 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: So he's played well, but I just don't think a 611 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: lot of he's not getting a lot of hoopla and 612 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: we know the depth. 613 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: Of SpongeBob references. 614 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: Yes, no, that's how I was like, should I make this? 615 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 616 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: But it was great. You do a better job right now. Yeah. 617 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of like, can he do enough 618 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: to scratch that like back spot on the deep rotation 619 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: or not? Because I think he's worthy of it. But 620 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: you got a guy like Morgan Fox there, you got 621 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: some interior. Yeah, Like there's a lot of names. So 622 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: he's been great. Has he done enough? Who knows? But 623 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: I if it's the last time I get to watch 624 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: him this season, I'm gonna enjoy it. On Friday night, 625 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: I'll be sad. 626 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 627 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: I know. That's the one thing to remember when it 628 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: comes to roster cuts. My annual disclaimer. These athletes are 629 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: people too, and this is their livelihood. It is not 630 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: a fun day in the NFL. 631 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: It is not a fun day. But this was a 632 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: somewhat fun pod some like, you know, some stuff that 633 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: we would rather not have had to talk about today, 634 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: obviously when it comes to big injuries. But that is 635 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: life in the NFL, and the regular season is right 636 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: around the corner, so they've got to figure out some 637 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 1: answers to some of the questions that just popped up. 638 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: One more preseason game to do that, Friday night, eight pm, 639 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. But we will be back after roster cutdowns 640 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: to kind of do a second part of this whole conversation, 641 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: see where we landed, see what we got right wrong, 642 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: and how everything shook out. So for Taren Tory, I'm 643 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: will and we will see you guys next time.