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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast, can't be the Too High

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Speaker 1: show from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Kansas, joined by the heroes Greg Rosenthal and

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Greggy, It's the week four teen Sunday recap show,

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Speaker 1: the flagship program, and it very nearly did not happen.

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Speaker 1: Our podcast came so close to ending today. How's that?

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Speaker 1: You've got me on edge? Almost over, at least over

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Speaker 1: as we know it all, Ricky, here comes the onside

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Speaker 1: kick with one seventeen left. Tucker bounces to the right side,

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Speaker 1: hits off a Browns player in the Ravens recover at

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Speaker 1: the fourty yard line. Wow. If the Ravens recovered that

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Speaker 1: on sidekick and then turned it into the game winning

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Speaker 1: field goal to beat the Browns. Mark's gone and the

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Speaker 1: show as we know it is over. Thankfully the Browns

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Speaker 1: got to stop and we'll get to the game later.

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Speaker 1: But it was so close. Yeah. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Greg and I we are in the office during these

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Speaker 1: early games, and I think that I was probably annoying

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Speaker 1: you with my you know, I was dropping some Sailors

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Speaker 1: language in the direction of the Ravens and the Browns.

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Speaker 1: It would have been over. It would have been tough.

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Speaker 1: We would have had to step into Mark at a

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Speaker 1: lot of responsibilities today would have been but it was.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was typical. This was that like the

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Speaker 1: theme of the week, kind of if we're looking over arching.

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Speaker 1: It started with that crazy Vikings game. Given up the

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Speaker 1: big lead. The Browns gave up the big lead. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they won. The Cowboys gave up the big lead, they won.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks gave up the big lead, they won. The

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Speaker 1: forty Niners gave up the big lead, they won. And

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Speaker 1: like I mentioned, it all started back on Thursday night

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Speaker 1: when I watched that Vikings team drive that strawberry truck

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Speaker 1: all over the field. Don't you think I forgot right?

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Speaker 1: If you listen to the recap. You know, Greg listened

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Speaker 1: to the Thursday Night Show when he's not on it,

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Speaker 1: and you got to give him respect for it. And Mark.

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Speaker 1: I literally my my stomach jumped when the onside kick

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Speaker 1: cap because I knew the ramifications could have been huge.

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Speaker 1: But we're all together, Well, what do you think I

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Speaker 1: would have done? I don't know. Like I mean, our

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Speaker 1: windows on the second or third floor are there hermetically sealed.

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Speaker 1: I guess. I guess I could imagine driving in and

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Speaker 1: just seeing like a hole where the office used to be,

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Speaker 1: so everyone's going out, thankfully didn't come to it. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to the Browns, who almost impossibly um are

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Speaker 1: in position to win that a f C North because

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Speaker 1: that division is so wide open. We're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: what's going on there. But yes, let's start with the

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Speaker 1: on paper, what was the game of the day, and

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Speaker 1: then it didn't look like it was gonna be that way,

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Speaker 1: but oh hell yeah, it turned out to be a

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Speaker 1: great ball game down there in Tampa between the Bills

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Speaker 1: and the Bucks. Pressure coming from the outside, pot ball,

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Speaker 1: first out of the fifty outside the number forty till

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Speaker 1: the thirty yard live Permanshot Parman touchdown tample by Fox

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Speaker 1: running overtime Paramon Paramon, Parleman, Janecker, w f Us Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen played like a star in the second half, but

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady reminded us in overtime that he is to

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Speaker 1: go to the quarterback hooked up with Jets legend Brashad

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Speaker 1: Perriman for a fifty eight yard touchdown. It was the

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Speaker 1: game winning score in a wild thirty three seven win.

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Speaker 1: Over the Bills. Tampa Bay moves to nine in three

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Speaker 1: tenant three and remained very much in the mix for

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Speaker 1: the number one seed in the NFC. Thank you Mark.

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Speaker 1: The Bills meanwhile, all of a sudden seven and six

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Speaker 1: and in danger of falling out of playoff position in

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Speaker 1: the a f C Entirely what a game, Greg so

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Speaker 1: good to three felt over and yet the Bill's defense

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Speaker 1: went on a run before that overtime drive by the

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Speaker 1: for ten yards or less, not counting the Neil downs

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Speaker 1: in that defense that we've heard about all year. Got

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Speaker 1: them back into the game. Josh Allen got them back

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Speaker 1: into the game. But ultimately the team with the win

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Speaker 1: here and the thirty three points are led by what

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Speaker 1: I think is the most unstoppable force in all of

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Speaker 1: the NFL right now, which is the combination of Tom

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Speaker 1: so hard to beat for sixty minutes or or sixty

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Speaker 1: five like in this game. He had a lot of throws,

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Speaker 1: including that game winner where it wasn't out of his

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Speaker 1: hand that quickly. And yes, they struggled in the second

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Speaker 1: When you've got that good of a line, even against

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Speaker 1: at such a high level, man, it's gonna take a

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Speaker 1: really special offensive performance to beat them. And the Bills

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Speaker 1: got that. But they only got about a half of that.

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Speaker 1: They didn't get a full game of that. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: funny because you mentioned, you know, the script writers, the

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Speaker 1: football gods um made seven or eight games this weekend

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Speaker 1: feels like had the same narrative hugely lost. It didn't

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Speaker 1: lose it. Here's the same thing I I if I'm

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Speaker 1: a Bills fan, it was twenty seven to ten at

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Speaker 1: one point, and had that turned into thirty seven to

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Speaker 1: thirteen or something. Western New York is on fire after

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Speaker 1: what happened last week and this week, and you're looking

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Speaker 1: at a Bills team that is going to be heavily

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Speaker 1: critique NonStop. I thought they fought their way back into

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Speaker 1: this thing in a valiant effort that yes, I know

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Speaker 1: you lost, but you've got Carolina next. Then that Patriots game,

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Speaker 1: the victory game. I don't know, I mean it happened.

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Speaker 1: I just think that like that it was so negative

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Speaker 1: a week ago. There's a lot to take away from this,

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Speaker 1: and you lost to what is arguably the best team

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Speaker 1: in a season when there's like two or three consistent

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Speaker 1: that time, it just felt like the walls had caved

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Speaker 1: season that was remembered ultimately as one of titanic disappointment

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Speaker 1: for Bill's franchise that had Super Bowl aspirations. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: they still lost. So there at seven and six, Um,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have and they have, of course, like we said,

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Speaker 1: just like, yes, they have worked to do. But it's

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Speaker 1: a reminder why you do not count out the Bills

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Speaker 1: because they do have um Josh Allen, and I think

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Speaker 1: Allen is one of those special players that he can

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Speaker 1: really carry it to He put that entire team on

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Speaker 1: his big boy back and nearly took it home that

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Speaker 1: and I think Sean McDermott are thinking about themselves, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is a bummer, and we didn't finish off this comeback,

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Speaker 1: but I think we got another. We got more fight

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Speaker 1: We'll be up. I was ready to count them out

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Speaker 1: on some of these things over and over, but I

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Speaker 1: rare game where I think the three of us got

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Speaker 1: totally thrilling. And I think there's a connection. By the way,

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Speaker 1: since I do, I think that you are you're saying

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Speaker 1: you were rooting it on. You were into that game

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Speaker 1: as I've seen all years for a spiritual for these

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Speaker 1: Bills on some left. Josh Allen's game was so good.

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Speaker 1: He goes twelve nine on the ground and a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: for yards too. I think that could be one solution

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Speaker 1: to their running games struggles. They literally didn't call a

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Speaker 1: was almost hilarious, and Bills fans are losing their mind,

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Speaker 1: you know. They finally cast them in the second half,

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Speaker 1: With all that said, this would have been a nice win,

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Speaker 1: like they don't have a lot of those nice wins

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Speaker 1: against good teams, they have a lot of heartbreaking losses

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Speaker 1: against the teams no. And and they could have called

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Speaker 1: many times, it's another way to say, my anger and

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Speaker 1: my frustration around Tom Brady mostly dissipated when he left

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Speaker 1: trying to get a penalty there. I know, and I

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Speaker 1: saw the same thing happen for the Browns in the

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Speaker 1: favor of the Browns today again, Yeah, an under thrown ball,

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Speaker 1: because it's an under thrown ball and they're just throwing

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Speaker 1: the flag every time. It's got to be a point

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Speaker 1: of the system they look at in the off season.

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Speaker 1: This game had so much to it. It was one

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Speaker 1: of the more fascinating games of the year, like Godwin, Evans,

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Speaker 1: Gronk and then Paraman and four net In the end,

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Speaker 1: they made such good plays for Brady, not always on

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Speaker 1: the best throws to like that's underrated too, that he

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Speaker 1: has guys that can make place. But I think it

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Speaker 1: showed the strength and the weakness of McDermott. The strengths are.

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Speaker 1: Romo made a good point of him adjusting on the

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Speaker 1: through that second quarter, Romo kind of first guests that

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Speaker 1: there and McDermott didn't like wait for halftime to make adjustments.

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Speaker 1: They changed what they were doing defensively and they shut

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Speaker 1: it down. That's where McDermott is maybe as good or

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Speaker 1: better than any coaching the league. But with some of

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Speaker 1: the game management stuff, uh, kicking a field goal inside

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Speaker 1: know that stuff always comes back to haunt teams when

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00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: they do dumb stuff like that, because that was obviously

430
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: a point, a point for the Chiefs after the game

431
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 1: that they just wanted to destroy this team after they

432
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: tried to embarrass them uh at Arrowheads. So yes, good

433
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: job by the Chiefs getting right. And by the way,

434
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: now that five game winning streak is a six game

435
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: winning streak. And if this is a sign that the

436
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: offense is waking up a little bit, we'll look out

437
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: because if you do do combine, maybe not record setting

438
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: offense like the good old days, but a good offense

439
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: with this very good defense right now, you're going to

440
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: continue to win a lot of games. There nine and

441
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: four now and the Raiders six and seven and getting

442
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: ready for dirty. It is the worst loss in the

443
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: sixty one year history of the Raiders. That surprises me.

444
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: Forty eight nine is brutal, but the whole history team.

445
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: I got something else that will surprise you this game,

446
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: and we'll annoy you. Was a score of gummy. I

447
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: will say nothing else but eat it. Wow, I can't

448
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: Definitely the most interesting part of this game to me,

449
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't believe this. The Raiders season. Look,

450
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: the Chiefs of their entire slump offensively has been interrupted

451
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: now twice by forty Burgers against the Raiders. They've slumped

452
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: still against everyone else. Those are there, two good games.

453
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: But yet this Raiders collapse happening in the exact same

454
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: way that it's happened the last couple of years. I

455
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: don't know why. I'm I'm surprised they have a winner

456
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: go home game on Saturday afternoon. Good luck with that, Mark, Um.

457
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the last Saturday before Christmas. Um,

458
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: you know you gotta handle your family, and there's a

459
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Biders by Saturday. I'm just saying that's that's kind of

460
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: a winner go home game in the you know the

461
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: Raiders technical for maybe for both, but certainly for the Raiders.

462
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that it's over. It's over. But you

463
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: think that's crazy to me? Remember that there was that

464
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: uh Dolphins. It's almost like it happens at the same

465
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: time every year too, when they're officially gone. There was

466
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: that Dolphins Raiders game a year ago. It's just like

467
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: it's so depressing and I think, I know, I need

468
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: to watch. Get eyes on. This game for Patrick Mahomes

469
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: is good no matter how you cut it in point

470
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: eight yards either because given their struggles and they've been

471
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: fairly immense Kansas City, uh for most of the season.

472
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: Just any time you could you know, run for a

473
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards. Um, you know he threw for

474
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: two fifty eight Mahomes. You're still not getting you know,

475
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: Tyreek popped off one for thirty eight yards. Just still

476
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: not getting like those huge, huge games Travis Kelsey again

477
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: quiet um, but this was you know, great win and

478
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: it was over quick five turn up five. You know

479
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: you win the turnover e merge five to nothing. There's

480
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: no Darren Waller out there that is liked. I I

481
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: know it's the real I know it's the Raiders and

482
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: they don't they clearly number one. If you don't match

483
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: up well against the best team in your division, good luck.

484
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: But uh, the defense for Kansas City is there's no

485
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: questioning how powerful they've become and that can lead you.

486
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't have to look like it looked

487
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: in the past for the Chiefs. I mean this is

488
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: also a game where Josh Gordon, who turned thirty eight

489
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: four weeks ago. Um had a touchdown. So what are

490
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: you talking about? I'm just saying, I feel like we've

491
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: been talking about Josh Gordon for seventeen years, so I'm

492
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: assuming he's thirty eight. He I think he's been twenty

493
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: nine twelve. But yeah, it was like a one yard touchdown,

494
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: whereas one of those homes runs. That's really a past.

495
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: But good for Josh Gordon. He's overcome a lot. At

496
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: Brown's home, Brown goes at Colts First Chargers technically Brown's, Uh,

497
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: the Raiders are still alive, but uh, there it is.

498
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: That's when the soul of a team goes up until

499
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: sis they're gone. The Raiders are gone. I don't know.

500
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: It's not the same as forked because that's a full vote.

501
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: I can only tell you when I hear it, and

502
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: that happened, I know, but they dan they are a

503
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: totally broken boat, leaking barrels of water. But what happens

504
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: when they off Cleveland next week? They're in the and

505
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: they're in the heavens. It's not happening. You did you

506
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: hear that or was that just in my head? Now?

507
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: I heard it. It was the soul going on that's

508
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: gone I'm not sure. All right, let's pause right here

509
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: and take a break. We'll be right back. Fourth down

510
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: at six from the forty five in Baltimore. He's got

511
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: the stat back to pass FROs called baper gun it

512
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: have approach, stop back, head bys, award's awards, head them

513
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: right off my button, forty five. Get the ball back,

514
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: game said match, Okay, all right, give up, give it

515
00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: to him, give it to mark It in the ones

516
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: shook Jim Donovan with the call w k r K.

517
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Did the Browns deserve bongoes? Yes, you are not going

518
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: to be in charge of every day when you beat

519
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley barely that. You gotta get the bongos, all right,

520
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: both of you and exhale. The Browns nearly allowed Tyler

521
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: Huntley in the Ravens to pull off a miracle victory,

522
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: but the defense got the big stop on fourth down

523
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: near midfield. They secured a vitally important twenty two win

524
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: at the Dog Pound. Yes, Huntley replaced Lamar Jackson, who

525
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: was ineffective before exiting the game with an ankle injury

526
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: in the second quarter. Shookie, welcome back, buddy, how are you?

527
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm great? A Steelers winter cap there for a second,

528
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: but Cleveland, this is Cleveland Cavalier's baby, all right, you

529
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: go shooky curious. What was the level of internal terror

530
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: when Baltimore recovered that on side kick in the final minute?

531
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: Is there with this scale on? Is this one to ten?

532
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: One to ten is like Peter pants seventy four wet pants,

533
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: change them pants? Yeah, a rough little ending there, but

534
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: I guess you take some strength from out of the

535
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: team's ability to stop the stop that final drive. Uh yeah,

536
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean you're playing against Tyler Huntley, who, by the way,

537
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: let a game when you drive against the Bears recently,

538
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: so it's not like he's the worst quarterback in the league.

539
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: But it's still Tyler Huntley, and you let him run

540
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: all over you a little bit, and you let him

541
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: fill the ball up and down the field and mount

542
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: a comeback. But you do take a little bit of

543
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: excitement and enjoyment out of that. Jadeveon Clowney coming up

544
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: with a big sack on second down, Denzel Word with

545
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: a nice stick on fourth down to stop them well

546
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: short of the sticks on a play call that I'm

547
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: sure the Ravens will want back. Um, So you're you're

548
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: happy about the defense. You're still concerned about the fact

549
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: that the offense couldn't do anything in the second half,

550
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: could not put their foot on the throat and put

551
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: this game away when they had multiple opportunities too. And

552
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: if you're the Browns are happy to still be alive

553
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: in a division that is very wide open after the

554
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: Bengals loss, you beat the Ravens. I mean, it's all

555
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: right there in front of you. I feel like, because

556
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: yet it was concerning. And when it was twenty four

557
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: to six, I told Greg that I was nervous, and

558
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, I understandingly logically, were said, just shut up

559
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: with that. You're there fake, you said, now, you said

560
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens are going to win. And at that point

561
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: it was twenty four to nine and the Ravens had

562
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: the ball with ninety yards to go, and it was

563
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: like in the fourth quarter, I'm like, what, I haven't

564
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: watched this game, but that's crazy, you know what you

565
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: were kind of right? Well, I mean I just think

566
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: that we're conditioned to what what the low points these

567
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: teams were possible. But if anything from a more like

568
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: esoteric angle, it no one's gonna remember the details of

569
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: this game A week or two from now. They needed

570
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: to They needed to off a division opponent like the

571
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: Ravens to shut a lot of negativity up. I mean,

572
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: you could feel the frustration from Baker Mayfield that one

573
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: juncture where I don't know if it was the league

574
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: or the team pulled him off the field after that

575
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: terrible hit he took and he was in the face

576
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: of the medical guy saying, don't make me go in

577
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: that blue tent, And even like after he had been

578
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: there in a minute, he peeked his head out to

579
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: see what the next play was, and then he was

580
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: back on the field at some point. I also this

581
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: seemed um sort of emblematic of the game to me.

582
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: That kept shooting um or showing images of Lake Erie

583
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: and it looked like an angry Baltic sea. I mean,

584
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: it looked insane out there. You were on the scene,

585
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: or at least in the city. What's going on there.

586
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: It's been extremely windy here for the last forty eight hours,

587
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: to the point where I was carrying a cardboard box

588
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: outside yesterday with my girlfriend trying to take her to

589
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: North fron Rack to return some stuff, and I basically

590
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: almost got blown over by the wind. The box went

591
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: flying large box, so that that very choppy waters out there.

592
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: But I thought you were actually gonna point out the

593
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: color of the watermark, which was a nice tinge of

594
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: depressed depressed brown and not the not the brown of

595
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 1: the Browns were, but just like a gross lakewater brown. Uh.

596
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, I know you like enjoy

597
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: every win against the Ravens, but the Browns to me

598
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: are a unique team this year in that there's they've

599
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: had a lot of winds you kind of can't totally enjoy.

600
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: Like the Lions win, didn't totally enjoy that one. There

601
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: was that Vikings win early in the season. I'm not

602
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: so sure about that. They were like even that Texans

603
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: game early. Didn't really enjoy that. The fact that this

604
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: is a team that their trade mark was a bit

605
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: the ability to run in the fourth quarter and like

606
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: grind teams out, lose Kareem Hunt to what could be

607
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: a big injury, and Chubb struggles and that Baltimore who's

608
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: so shorthanded and lost Clea Scampbell during the game. Rallies

609
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: back that it feels like it's about as bad a

610
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: win over the Ravens at least as as possible. That's it.

611
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: When does it win? Though? And I think that's all

612
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: they want, right especially the way they lost to them

613
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: two weeks ago and another game that they easily could

614
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: have won if they could do anything offensively. The fact

615
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: that they were able to pull this one out by

616
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: building that lead and hanging on for dear life. They

617
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: all count the same, and at this point in the year,

618
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. Lamar. We need to find out

619
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: the severity of this ankle injury. You know, he goes

620
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: out in the second quarter. Um, he limps off, can't

621
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: really put a ton of weight on it, and that

622
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: gets carded and doesn't return, So you know they're they're cooked.

623
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley does make some plays and he has good mobility,

624
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: but also he's like strikes me as like fairly unique

625
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: in that I don't know too many quarterbacks and he's young.

626
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: I think he's in the second season where he almost

627
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: is not aware that other players are chasing him. The

628
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: blindside shots he takes and the way he holds the ball,

629
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: so it's almost like he has so much to learn

630
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: in terms of awareness. It costs him on a couple

631
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: of different plays, including a turnover in the red zone.

632
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: So if if Lamar is missing any extended amount of time,

633
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are have a very real chance

634
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: because even with Jackson in the line of the offense

635
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: is so bad right now, Um, and then at the

636
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Bengals and then the Rams, there's a chance, there's a chance.

637
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: And on the brown side of thing, I do still

638
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: feel the same way. They did not score a point

639
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: in the second half. It's such a conservative offense now

640
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: less than three hundred yards here. I know Baker after

641
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: the getting games said he was he's feeling better than

642
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: he's felt, but there's just no juice to this team

643
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: buying the feeling better thing. I mean, it's it's I

644
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: just think that this is a quarterback struggling in every

645
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: possible way. They don't have Does he have to be

646
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: in the line of if he's playing. I hear what

647
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: you're saying. Hear what you're saying, Like they just they

648
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: don't have a clear cut number one wide out. Um,

649
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: they were without two tight ends that I think are

650
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: important to Baker today they could they haven't been. It's

651
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: it's two straight games against the Ravens. They haven't been

652
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: able to run the ball in the first game, you

653
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: picked off Lamar four times and lost. In this game,

654
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Lamar barely played and you nearly lost. I think that

655
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: should be a heat check, whether you came out of

656
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: here with a victory or not. I have one question

657
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: at one point in that game, at one point in

658
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: the game, the Ravens had more points than they had

659
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: first downs and it still ended up into two point finish.

660
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: That it should be concerning. Yeah, very wild ending to

661
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: the game. One question mark we when we drafted this week.

662
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: I took the Browns game because you said you needed

663
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: a break and didn't want to watch a brown do

664
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: You very clearly watched the game close. So here's what happened.

665
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: We were um I took. I was under the impression

666
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: that Bengals Niners was a one pm game and it

667
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: got moved to four pm, so I got that ugly

668
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: two four pm things. So I had, you know, the ability,

669
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: and the band was to watch it. Had I can't

670
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: confirm this. He came in talking about it. He's like

671
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: he was suddenly surprised. It's like, did move that game?

672
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: So he was looking at a thing less. I always

673
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: start with more games, and then you know, I killed

674
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: today the point of it was, though, that you needed

675
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: a break from them entirely, not really, Like if I

676
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: really wanted a break, i'd be like in a park

677
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: somewhere like he was. You watched the Browns game more

678
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: closely than your quote primary game Tennessee Jackson. Now we

679
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: see what you're doing. You better bet your ass. All right,

680
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: let's move on. Here's Newton. He's gonna throw quick shot,

681
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: intercepted Michael Walker, and he's got road in front of it.

682
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: Walker will SCOREF ten five pick six off Cam Newton,

683
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: and Atlanta leads West Durn with a call w z

684
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: g C linebacker Michael Walker returned to an interception of

685
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Cam Newton sixty six yards for a touchdown. The Falcons

686
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: improved to six and two on the road this year.

687
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: They beat up on the Panthers. Uh shookie, they're good

688
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: at all, but they are undeniable, undeniably in the NFC

689
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: playoff picture with four games to play. Yeah. I had

690
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: that moment today when I looked at their record on

691
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: the on the score graphic and thought to myself, Oh no,

692
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: this team has a legit shot to make the playoffs,

693
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know what I'm betting. Yes, Yeah, it's

694
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: terrible because that this is the one situation in which

695
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: the third wild card might actually produce like a bad team.

696
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: Like last year, Washington kind of got hot going to

697
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs made for Chicago. You know, we had to

698
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: watch Trabinsky when the Nickelodeon Valuable Player a War and

699
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: that was pretty rough. Yeah, I mean, this is the

700
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: This game was between two similar teams. That was kind

701
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: of a snoozer in the fourth quarter, which is more

702
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: emblematic of where the Panthers are headed right now. I

703
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: think you have to be proud of the Falcons because

704
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: of what they're doing. I think with the talent that

705
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: they have, because you got Kyle Pitts, who's who's flashed

706
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: at times, but having Calvin Ridley for a long time, Um,

707
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you can tell when they when

708
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: they're out there in the Quadriolison's getting carries and and

709
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: you're throwing to Russell Gage. This is not a team

710
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: that's loaded with talent, and yet they are scrappy and

711
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: in a game like this, they're playing a team that's similar,

712
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: they're both kind of just out there existing right now. Uh,

713
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, they took advantage. I mean marks this game

714
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: the first time around, though, and Carolina wiped the floor

715
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: with them physically, like ran at forty nine times and

716
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: just like boss them around. And so to me, it's telling.

717
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: It's these two young coaches that Atlanta comes back around.

718
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: They were like negative a hundred million points point differential

719
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: this year. They were thirty second in d V A

720
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: way coming into this week, and yet they're six and seven.

721
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: And I think looking at these two teams, you can

722
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: say one team is better coach and I and Carolina.

723
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: Who you bring in Cam Newton, that's a mess, I

724
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: know that. But you score twenty one points with him

725
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: and p J. Walker and your defense comes back on

726
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: the field when your offense cuts it to one score

727
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: late and all you gotta do is get one stop

728
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: and you can give your offense a chance and their

729
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: defense could not get off the field. And you know

730
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: what Kyle Pitts, I know he only went five for

731
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: sixty one, but he always makes big like game winning

732
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: type third and thirteen conversion So that doesn't show up

733
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: in your fantasy box score, Dan, but I think he's

734
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: I think he's won them a couple of games. I

735
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: really say, my frustrat and he has. You're right, he's

736
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: made some big plays. My frustration has nothing to do

737
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: with Kyle Pitts, the player or the prospect. I think

738
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: he's really talented and has a chance to have a

739
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: great career. But at one point, I tweeted in the

740
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: first quarter Kyle Pitts fantasy owners looking at the box

741
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: score and realizing yet another four thirty eight zero outings

742
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: upon us with Jack Nicholson from the Shining knocking down

743
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: all the dishes. With four minutes left in this game,

744
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: he had four catches for thirty eight yards and zero touchdowns.

745
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: Then he got the big catch. That was huge. But anyway,

746
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: the Falcon's offense is a little sleepy and dreary, but

747
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: they're in the mix. I shook. This came across my emails,

748
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: something that you wrote to flip it to Carolina, and

749
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: they're coaching issues. Matt rules, spaghetti at the wall approach

750
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: is growing tiresome. I have been a big supporter of Rule,

751
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: but the last fortnight has been about as ugly as

752
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: it could at for Matt Rule and the whole idea

753
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: of what he was bringing to Carolina. Yeah, I'm glad

754
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: you said this because this is my bone to pick

755
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: with them. I am out on Matt rule, like completely out.

756
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: He cans his offensive coordinator and you know, makes him

757
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: to scapegoat, hands the job off to his lifelong buddy

758
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: and they put up twenty one points while rotating quarterbacks

759
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: at times. What is the point of rotating court? What

760
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: are you trying to figure out what you have in

761
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: p J. Walker? We know what you have in p

762
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: J Walker on XFL Star, who is a backup quarterback

763
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Why are you wasting your time doing

764
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: this to the head coach? Yeah, yeah, okay, all right?

765
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: In the backgrounds, I mean, is p J Walker much

766
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: worse than two thousand one? Kim? And I love the

767
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: process of of going back and forth between them. That

768
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: that and that's my point is what is the point

769
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: that we're going back into maybe a little context, just

770
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: that I saw some of the Beat reporters saying that

771
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: thing you've heard about Cam because he signed in the

772
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: middle of the season, he doesn't have a good level

773
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: of knowledge in the two minute drill in in the playbook,

774
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: so they put in Walker at the end of the half.

775
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: That's why he went in, and that's why Cam came

776
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: back in the third quarter. But even then it's just

777
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: like what are we doing here? Like what you know,

778
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Matt? You know that too minute

779
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: drill and they put him in for you know how

780
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: it ended p J Walker throwing one of the worst

781
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: picks I've seen this year, and that that's the last time.

782
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm done with them, I think. And we're gonna get

783
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: to Urban Meyer because I think he's roadkill basically, But

784
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: I think rule when you're gonna get to that six

785
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: to eight number at the end of the year on

786
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: black on Black Monday, I think rule despite that contract

787
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: that he signed, very much in danger right now, that's

788
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: there's four games, Like, there's four games left, Mark, So

789
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: let's say they lose them all, you know what I mean?

790
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Then that that plays a big factor, Like if they

791
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: lose it all, that keeps getting worse. And it's five

792
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: and twelve, but I think they know the owner is

793
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: an impatient individual. Alright. One more game was shooky and

794
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: we're lucky to have him hand off to Gordon Gordon

795
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: a big hold five Gordon into the end zone, touchdown.

796
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 1: Denver y'all words on the touchdowns scampers. He walks into

797
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: the end zone the Broncos honored the memory of Damarius

798
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: Thomas with emotional tributes and a thirty eight ten win

799
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: over the Lions. Running back to Javante Williams and Melvin

800
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: Gordon each scored a pair of touchdowns, and Draymont Jones

801
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: had a big game two sacks of Jared Goff. So

802
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: obviously a very emotional day in denver Um. Damarius Thomas

803
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: died at As Georgia home on Thursday, age thirty three,

804
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: and you know they're still working through the details of

805
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: what exactly happened, but a tragic loss, obviously for one

806
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: of the greatest players in franchise history at the wide

807
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: receiver position. UH. Several Broncos arrived at the stadium wearing

808
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: number eighty eight jerseys, UH, kicker Brandon McManus where custom

809
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: cleats featuring Thomas's smile. There's a pregame moment of silence,

810
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: a video tribute featuring Thomas's a d R touchdown catch

811
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: from Tim Tebow, and the famous playoff game. And then

812
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: it all culminated with the Broncos taking the field with

813
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: just ten men UH to start the game. The first

814
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: snap in honor of Thomas, it was a five yeard penalty.

815
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: Of course, the Lions declined the delay of games, so

816
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, shook a really sad time and and broncos

817
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: um for that organization. Uh, they were able to process

818
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: that and play a really strong game and kind of

819
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: keep themselves in the mix in the a f C

820
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: as well. A really strong game and a good bounce

821
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: back performance for them after that frustrating loss to the

822
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs in prime time last week. You know, this is

823
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: another team that's right there in the hunt. This is

824
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: a game that you know, you couldn't afford to to

825
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: be kind of a trap game, especially Lions coming off

826
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: of that victory, and they took care of business and

827
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: what was a somber day that they also handled with

828
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: extreme class. I think, Um, you know that you could

829
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: say a lot about the franchise and the way they've

830
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: operated since the passing of Pat Bowlan and and this

831
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: is one of their you know, brighter moments both on

832
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: the field and just in terms of their own history

833
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: and honoring you know, one of the legends of that

834
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: team and for them from their season outlook, you know,

835
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: you you get right back on the horse and you

836
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: keep going forward, and uh, it's a positive day for them.

837
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you get a strong day out of your

838
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: running attack, you kind of dominate the game and you

839
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: take care of business. So good on them. They called

840
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: eighteen runs to five passes in the first two drives.

841
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: You see that too often, and it was fourteen nothing.

842
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of people have been getting on

843
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon this year because I just want to Javonti

844
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: Williams show and Javanti Williams like made a great spin

845
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: move on his touchdown. Melvin Gordon's good ball player. You

846
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: want to have two good running backs. It's a great combo.

847
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: It's a Vic Fangio dream. And this team, who's just

848
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: the exact picture of mediocrity, gets to that Cincinnati game

849
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: next week, still in that mix, still in that seven

850
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: and six mix where one of those two team whoever

851
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: wins that game, uh, is gonna have a nice little juice.

852
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: What if what if you were Vick Fongio and you

853
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: told ownership back in August, we'll have the same record

854
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: as the Buffalo Bills coming out of Week four. Team,

855
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, even if you had just said we'll be

856
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: seven and six, I think they'd be like, okay with

857
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: the Bill's ankle. I think that would probably be shinier.

858
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: Let's see where the Broncos are. I'm looking at the

859
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: updated playoffs standings going into Sunday Night football. They're up

860
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: two spots, they're ten, but they're tied. I mean they're

861
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: tied the six spot. It's crazy that that that there's

862
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: one game between like the four and the thirteen, or

863
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: the or the ten. Rather, it's crazy there's five AFC

864
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: teams that are seven and six. Hello parody, all right, Chucky,

865
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, pal and um, we'll catch

866
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: up with you next week. And make sure and check

867
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: out Nick's great work on NFL dot com. And he's

868
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: all over the network now, Shook making a little play.

869
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: You know, we wanted to be successful. It's like when

870
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was traded to the Panthers. We want it.

871
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: We want him to find success in his new home

872
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: because he's a good guy. But just don't become too successful,

873
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: because you mean, well, I don't want him to take

874
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: over power rankings. I don't want him to take my

875
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: chair here on around the NFL. I want him to

876
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: have his own lane where he's successful, but he doesn't

877
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: impact me in a negative way. Seems fair like, not

878
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: a crazy request. I mean, Shook will be at the

879
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: bottom of that Lake Erie scenario if he gets too

880
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: close to Dan, trust me or Greg especially please, I

881
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: mean an I don't want that. I don't want to pipe.

882
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: What's up with you? Mark? What was that comment? Especially

883
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: sneaking speaking truth? Please? You just said you don't want

884
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: him near anything that you are doing. I was joking

885
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: and then you came in with some Mike because I

886
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: was just saying I saw Greg's I saw Greg's mind working,

887
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: so I just translating Greg's mind. Ricky, did you notice

888
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: like I'm joking around over here and then Mark's throw

889
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: But it totally gets what I'm saying, right Erica, Well,

890
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: I way don't come after Erica either wasn't so throwing

891
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: it at me makes it better. I feel like we

892
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: should take a minute and just like recomne, everybody, everybody

893
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: take a deep breath. We got a lot of show left.

894
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: We'll be back after tired to the whole room. Fact

895
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: is allan pressure that's a ball, throws the ball out

896
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: as he's being sacked by Gregory, and maybe HiT's a fumble.

897
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: It's picked up by Dallas. They are calling it Gregory

898
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: forcing a fumble and Dallas has recovered Brad Sham the

899
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: Sham God k r l d with the call. The

900
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys led Washington zip before Kyle Allen replaced an injured

901
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke let a seventy three yard touchdown drive and

902
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: then Cole Holkom intercepted Doc ran it back for a

903
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: pick six, But Washington's comeback bid came to an end

904
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: when Alan fumbled with play final score. Cowboys Washington a

905
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: preordained outcome after Big Bad Zaddy Mike McCarthy foretold it

906
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: and shared his vision with the masses. The Big the

907
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: Big Bad Zaddy made it all about him. We're gonna

908
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: win this scang. I'm confident, that confident, that confident that

909
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna win this scang. Confident, confident, confident. Yeah, I

910
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: like it. It's like it's like I want everyone to

911
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: talk about me. Lock it up, baby, get on the

912
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: side of the big what's going on here? Get on

913
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: the side of the Big Bad Zaddy. Well, congratulations Greggy too.

914
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's it's so in the Westlings, they locked up.

915
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: The Bucks got away with that one. Ricky locked up

916
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: the bye week. You didn't make a pick. Yeah she did.

917
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: She locked up the Yeah, I picked the Bills because

918
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: I really was like the Bills. You know that's the

919
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: lock for you. You wanted the other team to win, right,

920
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah I won? Yeah, lock it up again. We're flying.

921
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: The Titans won grave things back there. Hit him up.

922
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean they Cowboys were outscored twenty three in a

923
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: game where for the most part their defense was absolutely dominant,

924
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: where they hit Tyler Taylor Heineke so many times that

925
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: he was injured. It was like that, like this was

926
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: the blown lead, that felt the flukey ist. At no

927
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: point did I think Washington was going to complete this.

928
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: And yet the Cowboys getting the ball seven times in

929
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: the second half, just like that Saints game. Oh, the

930
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: Saints game they won by a lot seven times in

931
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: the second half and they got three points. And you

932
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: know how they scored those three points. Their offense set

933
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: them up in field goal range and then they had

934
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: a ten, you know, fifteen yard drive. They did nothing.

935
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: It's weird that Cowboys fans are freaking out right now

936
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: because Dak had a game where he could have thrown

937
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: about four interceptions. He did not play well in the

938
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: first half when they got out to about nothing in lead,

939
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: I was thinking, this is exactly like Thursday night where

940
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is somehow having one of his worst games

941
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: of the year and they're winning twenty nine to nothing.

942
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: It was very similar to that, and you add that

943
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: up and it is it is concerning, and yet you

944
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: do have to remember the other side counts too, and

945
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense is freaking amazing. I'm looking at this.

946
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: This is one of the weirder and more incredible drive

947
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: charts I've seen all year. Eleven of fourteen marches for

948
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: the for Washington went for eleven yards or less. The

949
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: first half was as dominant a defensive performance as any

950
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: half of football all year. The Washington football team had

951
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: six drives, and those six drives they turned the ball

952
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: over twice. They had a total of twenty nine yards

953
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: on those six drives, and if the Cowboys could have

954
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: held on to some interceptions, they actually touched the ball

955
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: far more in the first half. I counted up six

956
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: or so I think it was six passes defense. About

957
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: four of those were dropped interceptions. Heiniki was a mess,

958
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: uh and he only had two or three completions. So

959
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: at that point in the game like the Cowboys doesn't

960
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: running all over this team, and yet the offense like

961
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: should have put up sixty points in this game. Is crazy,

962
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: very weird. I mean just the box score here, Dak

963
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: averages five and a half yards of attempt the Gabbard zone,

964
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: Zeke with another you know, forgettable game less than four

965
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: yards to carry. They ran for most of the second

966
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: half as Clement played because you know, we had no

967
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: Pollard in this game. He was out as well, so

968
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, even with Pollard not in the mix, they

969
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: still didn't think Zeke was a guy who could make

970
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: it through the game. And I guess you couldn't. So

971
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: it's like, man, I think, and we talked about this

972
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: going into this game, both on the podcast and on

973
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: the TV show, that is Dak going to kind of

974
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: come come, you know, back to being the dock that

975
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: was an m v P level guy. And and it's

976
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: starting to mount. The weeks are starting to mount mark

977
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: where it's just not happening here. And yet, I mean,

978
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: just with the way the league is and with the

979
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: way it's been for quarterbacks this season, like I'm willing

980
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: more than ever to forgive slumps and um, you know,

981
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: we could be weeks away from Prescott getting in a

982
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: hot streaking at the right time they put them. They

983
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: basically won the NFC East today and that was it

984
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: was up for grabs if they had lost this game,

985
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: So that's important. Like, you're right, they have four games left,

986
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: a pretty favorable schedule their nine and four. Can they

987
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: turn around? They have the personnel to do it. Uh,

988
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: And just the way that this like Parsons added another

989
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: couple of massive plays for his defensive player that you're

990
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: Kindessee Gregory returns to this game, Randy Gregory jumps over

991
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: a cut block, tips it up in the air and

992
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: intercepts the past and and force like players matter, and

993
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: they're getting these players back, and like they still have

994
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: all the players that should get it done. But the

995
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: Dack thing's weird. He's very indecisive and he's like almost

996
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: afraid to run. There were multiple times today where he

997
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: could have picked up a first down with his legs

998
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: and he didn't, and they punted the ball because he

999
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: just sort of held it and hesitant. And Jane's point

1000
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: made me think. It makes me think more of his

1001
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: health though, because there's nothing about the personality we know

1002
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: of dak from hard knocks and beyond it says anything

1003
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: out fear or yeah, Jane had said that maybe the

1004
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: injuries he suffered as leading to something. But even if

1005
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: it's not, like in his mind directly that he's not

1006
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: running and performing as an athlete in his natural way

1007
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: and being a little bit more gunshy. So we'll see.

1008
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: And on the Washington side, yeah, this was their chance

1009
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: they're taking to get back into the division race. The

1010
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: defense balls out and they still don't find a way.

1011
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: That's a frustrating loss. Let us move on. Willing do

1012
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: his right as Herbard sets his feet takes a shoutdown field,

1013
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: has Gudan good club stops. There is one quarterback in

1014
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: the NFL that can make that play, and he is

1015
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: on the field here this afternoon, and it makes no

1016
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: sense put that in the best of that money Smith,

1017
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: our boy, the voice of God for the Around the

1018
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: NFL podcast, also gets a paycheck from k y s

1019
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: R Chargers Radio. Great call. Justin Herbert is a savage

1020
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: in the pocket. The second year stud through three touchdown passes,

1021
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: including that impossible missile to Jalen Guiton. He's done two.

1022
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: He's done that two weeks in a row, just crazy

1023
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: passes in the end zone to guitone. Chargers beat Giants. Mark.

1024
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: We challenge the Chargers to take care of business, business

1025
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: and act the part of an actual a f C contender,

1026
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: and they did it today. They absolutely did, setting up

1027
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: a monstrous game on Thursday night with the Chiefs. Go

1028
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: back and listen to that call again from Money because

1029
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 1: there's an obviously distinct pause after he threw the ball

1030
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: and when it was caught. I mean, this was one

1031
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: of the biggest ropes I've ever seen from any NFL

1032
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time, to the point where Daniel Jeremiah

1033
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: said that he's never seen a throw like that, and

1034
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it came against the Giants, which to me,

1035
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean, the Giants at this point are not unlike

1036
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: um when someone unleash is like a killer fart in

1037
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: a car in the middle of enter, like you're in

1038
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: a tough place. Well that's what they seem like that

1039
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: that unbelievable ability. No, it's separate, and I like this

1040
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: was this was the Chargers taking care of business. And

1041
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Williams a second week in a row

1042
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: with total chemistry with Herbert. They just thumped the Giants

1043
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: who are in a terrible place. And you know, we

1044
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: had a conversation about like Sae Kwon Barkley just doesn't

1045
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: look right to me in this offense. But forget the Giants.

1046
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: I think this was about and that, you know, the

1047
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers. This is a classic scenario where you could

1048
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: have imagined them getting clipped like four and taking all

1049
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: the wind out of the sales. It adds faith in

1050
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, it adds incredible faith in justin Herbert, who

1051
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: when he gets on a roll, the height, with the

1052
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: height of their powers, the Chargers can beat any team

1053
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: in the league. This was another awesome boast of performance

1054
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, they had some inspired performances

1055
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: all over the field. Leads the league in forced fumbles,

1056
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. They we're up thirty seven to seven with

1057
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: five minutes to go in a game they lost. That's

1058
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: and over battle two to nothing. I think Herbert's just

1059
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: like the evolution of the NFL is like the players

1060
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: always get better. That's what I think. Like it's just

1061
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: in terms of physical ability and to meet Herbert and

1062
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes just do things I've I haven't seen before. I

1063
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: think the throws that Herbert makes our throws I haven't

1064
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: necessarily seen before, and that he's just when it's right,

1065
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: it's so fun to watch and it's seen guy in

1066
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: and then Josh Palmer also went five sixties, six and

1067
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: one in this game. Those two guys coming on and

1068
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: being factors really I think can help round out their offense.

1069
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler remains an important part of this offense. He

1070
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: went out with injury anything on that so Brandon Staley

1071
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: said afterwards and you know, he just want to wait

1072
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: till the next day, but that he looked he thought

1073
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: he was fine. And he also said that Keenan Allen

1074
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: should be back on Thursday night as well. So I

1075
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: mean that right that that's you know, this offense. I

1076
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: I love that this game is happening against Kansas City

1077
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: when it is because this is the most uh steamy

1078
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: verse know the Chargers we've seen all year. And we'll

1079
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: preview that game, you know, in full on Tuesday because

1080
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: that is I think such an important game in the

1081
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: arc of this organization. I'm not gonna like, I don't

1082
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: want to oversell it, but you know, if they really

1083
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: show up and beat the defending conference champions. They are

1084
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a lot of people can see

1085
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: them differently, but in the here and now, they took

1086
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: care of business and that's important. Anything else to add

1087
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: on this one, just housekeeping, is that they said Daniel

1088
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: Jones is going to see a different next specialist on Monday,

1089
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: and just the way they framed it, and it's a

1090
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: neck injury four games left of the season, it just

1091
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if if he's put down for the

1092
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: year and they're kind of thinking about that draft pick

1093
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 1: maybe right neck injury plus four and nine plus middle

1094
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: of December with a thousand yards stayer that does not

1095
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: Lenny Williams also got hurt in this game. Joe Judge

1096
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: taken three time outs with four minutes left down like

1097
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: thirty points, trying to get the best back to our

1098
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: cover of the season at Giants backers were loving that.

1099
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

1100
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: Have taken the timeouts. Hey man, that's right out of

1101
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: the Tom Coughlin book. All right, Joe Judge, uh could

1102
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: be in trouble. You could say the same for Urban Meyer.

1103
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: He had a chance to put another week of ugly

1104
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: controversy behind him against the division rival Titans, it didn't

1105
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: really go to plan, however, Gonna laugh turns runs road. Yes,

1106
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: Mike Keith with it called w g f X. The

1107
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: finger roll is the most underrated touchdown celebration in the NFL.

1108
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: It's the Ryan Tannehill kind of does the Air Jordan

1109
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: thing and then does the spin of the ball away.

1110
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 1: I just like it. Tannehill didn't throw a touchdown on Sunday,

1111
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: but he ran for one and that was all the

1112
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: Titans would need. In a twenty to zip win over

1113
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: the completely depressing Jacksonville's Jaguars. Tennessee snaps a three game

1114
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: losing streak, fortified their standing is the top to AFC

1115
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: South with four weeks to go. Also the first home

1116
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: shutout more than two decades, surprising nug there Mark. Tennessee

1117
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: desperately needed a performance and more to the point, and

1118
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: an opponent like this came at the perfect time. We

1119
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: don't need the the Tennessee Titans to be like a

1120
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: flock of hotties at this point. They're living life on

1121
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: the razor's edge. They got a lot from their defense today.

1122
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: You know, the last two games, it was nine turnover

1123
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: giveaways for the Titans, which unspooled them. They did it

1124
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: today to Jacksonville. I mean, Jacksonville had a big part

1125
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: of this. Their offense is um, it just doesn't exist.

1126
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: And Trevor Lawrence had his worst game of the year.

1127
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: He's been put in a terrible environment. But a lot

1128
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: of it has to do with the pressure that Tennessee

1129
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: put on him. Um their ball hawking secondary, and it

1130
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: just that this team, to me, it's like a classic

1131
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: team win, where you know, Tannehill does not Julio Jones

1132
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: three four catches for thirty three yards. He's not coming

1133
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: in and saving the day. But Tannehill spread the ball

1134
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: all around. He had a like a really rough and

1135
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: tumble seventeen yard run or that was followed by an

1136
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: unnecessary rough and roughness that's set up an important score.

1137
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: He had a touchdown run later on. He did just enough.

1138
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: And I talked to Graver Digger during this game. I

1139
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 1: think we thought, you know, this was a complete team

1140
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: win for a team that's very incomplete right now. Personal wi,

1141
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Yeah, I forget about the game, Graver

1142
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: or anything. First of all, was the wife listening and

1143
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: not your wife not our wives thankfully listening to the

1144
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: podcast on Thursday. Yeah, any other blowback from your appearance?

1145
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: Now you're operating the interesting use of words there. What

1146
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: did I say? Blowback? Did? Did let me ask you

1147
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: this before we get to the game? Um, because a

1148
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: lot of people were left wondering, Um, are you looking

1149
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: to enter into a romantic relationship with this woman? I

1150
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: would say yes, but not in any way that is

1151
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: unethical or immoral. No judgment zone here, man, I'm starting

1152
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: to piece together, Um, in my mind, what's happening here?

1153
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: What it would? What's your theory? I'm just gonna posit

1154
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: a theory that that she is in like an open

1155
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: marriage of some sorts where she's allowed to do what

1156
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: she's doing. Because you say there's no ethical issues, maybe

1157
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: your ethics are not challenged by it. I'm just saying, no,

1158
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: nobody's ethics. It's not an open marriage situation. Well okay, okay,

1159
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: Well maybe she doesn't need that to be told. Stuff.

1160
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: All right, We're going to continue to get updates on

1161
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: Graver hit his music, and now I want to get

1162
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: his thoughts on the Titans once we hear that, and

1163
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: that's another episode of I don't know what we're calling

1164
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: this digging something other than a grave, digging the grave

1165
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: of that marriage. Oh god? Alright, your thoughts on the Titans?

1166
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: Did you feel better about the team? Now? There was

1167
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: also report inevitable report you kind of expecting it at

1168
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: some point that Derrick Henry is on track to return

1169
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: for the playoffs and maybe even week eighteen that the

1170
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: Titans need a regular season win to get in. Uh.

1171
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: You combine it with the twenty nothing and lead how

1172
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: you feel in? Justin, I feel pretty good about the

1173
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: Titans right now. That Henry reports super encouraging you. You're

1174
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: looking ahead and a j. Brown should be back, not

1175
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: this next game for but the one following that. There's

1176
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: a night football against the Niners. So I think the defense,

1177
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the shutout is a pretty impressive thing, especially

1178
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: because the Jaguars drove the ball deep into Tennessee territory

1179
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: a couple of times where it felt like the shutout

1180
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: was going to be threatened, but then they came up

1181
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: with whether it was an interception or Jacksonville committed penalty

1182
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: and pushed themselves backwards. Like It's tough to really judge

1183
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: too much because Jacksonville is so inept. All right, so

1184
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. So Tom Pallaceero uh NFL Network

1185
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: reported actually on Good Morning Football, Um, he really dropped

1186
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: these bombs with the Great Connie Fox hosting all sorts

1187
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: of heat involving things going on behind the scenes, uh

1188
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars, with urban Meyer not seeing eye to

1189
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: eye with players, with him calling out his coaches and

1190
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: having his coaches his assistant coaches explain their credentials and

1191
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: talk about himself as a winner and what have you won?

1192
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: Just like the ugliest, most scrim stuff ever. And of course,

1193
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: now that's all anyone wants to talk about after the game,

1194
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: especially after shutout loss. Here was urban just a quick

1195
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: snippet of what urban Meyer had to say after the

1196
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: latest Jaguars loss. What's the answer start leaking information or

1197
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: some nonsense. No, no, that's nonsense, that's garbage, that's you know,

1198
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: that's once again, I've been very blessed. I'm not really

1199
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: dealt with that. But I'm not dealt with well did

1200
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: you hear what he said? That will occupy very little

1201
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: my time. And if if there is a source, that

1202
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: source is unemployed, I mean, with in seconds, it just

1203
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: to me, it just screams like, Hi, I'm as pompous

1204
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: as it gets. I'm above everyone, and I think that

1205
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: these reports um are damaging. I think they're true. I mean,

1206
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: he also spends half the time on the sideline looking

1207
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: like he ate a squirrel's head. He looks uncomfortable, he

1208
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: looks out of place, and I think he can tell

1209
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: that the urban Meyer um aura or persona that some

1210
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: people are calling legendary because of what he did in

1211
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: college has come to the NFL and been completely undone.

1212
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an offensive coach. This offense is unwatchable.

1213
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: Every week, Trevor Lawrence has one touchdown. Since the bye week,

1214
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: he had four interceptions today. Every week it's the same thing.

1215
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: It's a battle to score one touchdown. Two never happens.

1216
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: You look at actions, you know what I mean. Like

1217
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones is really well respected as like a leader

1218
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: type of guy. He was mentioned that in that report

1219
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: as someone who left practice to be convinced whether he

1220
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: would come back. James Robinson like known for being like

1221
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: a great story, great guy. He he's involved in all this.

1222
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: Then you look at Mike Rabel and urban Meyer's handshake

1223
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, Rabel worked for urban

1224
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: Meyer for two years, and it was like the biggest

1225
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: fly by disrespectful move. I don't know which way was

1226
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: born his nature. He wouldn't even look at him in

1227
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: the eye. Rabel also didn't even slow down. It is

1228
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: just a disaster. And that's why watching this offensive performance

1229
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: each and every week and then seeing somehow that the

1230
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: early line of next week game is Jaguars by three

1231
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: and a half, that the rainmakers actually coming out on

1232
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: a Sunday night drink cap show, take that three and

1233
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: a half before it goes down to three because everyone's

1234
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: going Texans next week. Texans are gonna cover that one.

1235
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Greggy, That's what I'm talking about. Well,

1236
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm eleven and one against the spread today, so I'm

1237
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: just eland myself. Just now. It doesn't do me anything,

1238
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: all right, Let's take a break and then hit the

1239
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: rest of the games. Handoffed out Camara again. Balty took

1240
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: the right side moves inside the ten five. He is

1241
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: into the end zone right side. Alvin Camara sixteen yards

1242
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: touched down New Orleans. Mike cost w w L with

1243
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: the call. Alvin Kamara ran for a hundred twenty yards

1244
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: and a touchdown in his return from a four game absence.

1245
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: The Saints snap their longest losing streak under Sean Payton

1246
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: in a thirty to nine win over the Jets at

1247
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: the meadow Lands. That would that had been a five

1248
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: game losing streak for New Orleans, but the Jets are

1249
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: the elixir for most teams that need to get right.

1250
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: That was certainly the case here. Uh, Taysom Hill, you know,

1251
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: he's got that finger thing, and it's an issue. I

1252
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: don't He's already kind of a limited passer, and there

1253
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: are several throws where it just didn't look like it

1254
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: came out of his hand right. Maybe those throws don't

1255
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: come out of his hand right, even when the fingers

1256
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: not busted up the way it is. But either way,

1257
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: I have concerns about Taysom Hill against you know, a

1258
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: big opponent in a big spot, because I think the

1259
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: Saints are gonna hang around and be in this NFC

1260
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: playoff picture. Um, he had a touchdown run when the

1261
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: game still mattered. He added a garbage time run to

1262
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: really juice the stats a little bit, but I would

1263
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: give him a C plus for the game. The defense

1264
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: was much better, really shut down. The Jets were missing

1265
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. Zack Wilson again not playing very well. Uh,

1266
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: you give him a little bit of a pass because

1267
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: of the lack of supporting cast in this game. No

1268
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: Corey Davis, No Elijah Moore, who went on I R.

1269
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: We cannot catch a break. No Michael Carter, he's on

1270
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: I R. No Tevin Coleman. The Jets were three of

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01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: fourteen on third down and only had two fifty six

1272
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: yards of offense. So the Saints take care of business.

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01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: They stay in the mix in the NFC. They're six

1274
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: and seven. They're one of six NFC teams that's six

1275
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: and seven. They are actually, you know, as tiebreakers go

1276
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: their last among that group. But their defense, I think

1277
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: has shown and they're getting a little bit healthier overall

1278
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: in general, has shown that they can keep bad offenses down.

1279
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: Now they go to Tampa next week. They're not gonna

1280
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: win that game, but they do have the Dolphins, Panthers,

1281
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: Falcons to finish up. All those games feel winnable. At

1282
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: least it's pretend it's possible. And I think this coaching staff,

1283
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: Saints fans sort of wanted to just throw this season

1284
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: away because it's been painful and they're done. But it's like, no,

1285
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: I think, actually you're gonna be there in Atlanta Week eighteen,

1286
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: and that game is going to be meaningful. And I

1287
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: like that schedule a lot. And I mean Alphen Kamara,

1288
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: who had ninety four of a hundred and twenty nine

1289
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: first half yards for the team, I mean completely changes

1290
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: what they can accomplish. You know, Tayson Himmel's Tayson Hills

1291
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 1: like the finger thing or not, it's not. I don't

1292
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: think he's gonna lead them there. I think they have

1293
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: to come to that conclusion if you're Sean Payton. But

1294
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: with Kamara, I mean, well but you get the eleven

1295
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: for seventy three and two touchdowns on the ground, and

1296
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: maybe you're helping long term. We are we are, we

1297
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: over this experiment after the season, but go as far

1298
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: as you can this year. And I mean they were

1299
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: just a dead offense without Marrow. I mean, I will

1300
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: never question Sean Payton's ability to call a football game

1301
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,959
Speaker 1: on offense, but I was surprised for most of this game.

1302
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: And maybe it was had something to do with the

1303
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: finger as well. I don't know, but they were not

1304
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: using Taysom Hill the way they did against Dallas for

1305
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: stretches where they just said we're gonna call some design

1306
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: runs and just pick up seven yards, nine yards, fourteen yards.

1307
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: That was not happening for about three quarters of this game.

1308
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: He was just a pocket passer with a bad finger,

1309
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: and it was just like, this is not gonna work

1310
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: against the better team. So I think you would want

1311
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: to see more of that, working the run game into it,

1312
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: but it just Kamar is the guy that he's the

1313
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: difference maker as long as he's healthy and doing things.

1314
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: His touchdown he made a Jets defender look silly, and

1315
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: he's one of the few guys in the league that

1316
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: can do that that could just make defenders look like

1317
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: JV players in high school. So touches, it's like, these

1318
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: guys come off I are and anyway, good job by

1319
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: the same stay in the mix. They got a chance

1320
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: here and the Jets, well, the Jets are what the

1321
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: Jets are. And I am a little worried about Zack

1322
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: Wilson notes, yere one, we'll get to it more. I'm

1323
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: not I'm past anger and now maybe acceptance. I don't know.

1324
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: But let's move on to Houston second down and seven

1325
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: run by Penny left side bridge, one tackle, first out.

1326
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: He has gone five touchdowns. Steve are able to call

1327
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: kay i r oh, this is like that, like Joe

1328
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: Montana waves at John Candy and then goes, wins, goes

1329
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: and wins a super Bowl music. Maybe not a perfect

1330
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: fit for this version of the Seahawks, who improved too

1331
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: about four and eight or whatever. Five and eight h

1332
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson through for two d and sixty yards and

1333
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: two touchdowns for Shot Penny ran for a career high

1334
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: one thirty seven and two scores and the thirty three

1335
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: ten win over the decaying Texans. Greg the Seahawks are

1336
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: not very good, and yet two straight wins puts them

1337
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: on the fringes of the NFC wild card race. You're buying,

1338
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: You're buying, No, no, because they're playing the Rams next week.

1339
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: But if they could ever get that game, then I'm

1340
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: buying because the Ramps have owned them in recent years

1341
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: and and they're a good team this year, and the Seahawks,

1342
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, they haven't been. I'm buying a little bit

1343
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: because if you get past that, I ask you again,

1344
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: just give me yesterday. I'll buy it. The Texans next

1345
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: week who you just said he to Kane, Oh no, uh.

1346
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: This was kind of an old school like run run

1347
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: RUSS game, which is like the old Seahawks offense, like

1348
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: run twice to set up third and eight, and then

1349
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson makes a nice play, passes for two and

1350
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: sixty yards lock it goes for one forty two as

1351
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: you mentioned. And uh Rashad Penny, who has been about

1352
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: as criticized as any first round pick in recent memory,

1353
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: just because he's a running back and he plays for

1354
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: the like the savvy Seahawks Twitter fans uh at a

1355
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: career game. So that's nice, nice day for the Penny brothers.

1356
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: His brother Eliza eli uh with the two point conversion

1357
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: and running in for the Giant today. So what a

1358
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: day for Mr and Mrs Penny out there? Got it?

1359
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say in this game,

1360
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: Greg just assumes that there's a Mr. And Mrs Penny.

1361
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure the homework has not been done there. We

1362
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: don't know why you're saying. It crossed my mind. I

1363
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: hope everyone's there, But no, Russell Wilsn't really has looked

1364
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 1: better than the last few weeks. Bobby Wagner has been

1365
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: all over the field the last couple of weeks. Uh

1366
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: and Davis Mills at one point in this game was

1367
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: fourteen for fourteen for a hundred and fifty yards in

1368
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: a touchdown. How about that That is the most by

1369
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: a rookie of like straight completions since the most in

1370
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: Texans history. So it banner day for the Houston finishes

1371
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: with three thirty one forty nine throws. It got way

1372
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 1: less efficient after that. They didn't do much of anything

1373
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 1: for a while. But there are moments when Davis Mills

1374
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: is like, well, he's he's a backup. At least he's

1375
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: an NFL backup. I think at least I've seen worse rookies.

1376
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been worse rookies this year and at most.

1377
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: I will say this as well, that I really had

1378
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 1: a very strong feeling that the Texans were going to

1379
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: find a way to memory hole this season and not

1380
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: have any record of it in their media guide going forward.

1381
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:10,919
Speaker 1: But Caiimi Fairbarn, fair Baron Caimi Fairbarn set a franchise

1382
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: record with a sixty one yard field goals time expired

1383
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: in the first elfisode that has to go on the media.

1384
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 1: First back their games were ugly this morning. And at halftime,

1385
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: I remember you asked like, is everyone's game terrible? And

1386
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the best possible Seahawks next

1387
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: in this game. The first half of this game had

1388
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: a ton of big time exciting place and then it

1389
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: just turned in as America and Unison should watch this together,

1390
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 1: not on the condensed version, but the full day. And

1391
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: it was that exciting natalaurean. Then it got a little

1392
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: less exciting. All right, there you go. That is UH

1393
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: the early and late games now Sunday night football. In

1394
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: the role the full back comes back to the yet

1395
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: end zone again, back to back. That's a place yards.

1396
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers threw four touchdown passes, announcaying, hey, I'm in

1397
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: this m v P Race two. I want to go

1398
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: back down back baby, no interceptions. Another brilliant performance from

1399
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: Rogers in a win over the Chicago Bears, a game

1400
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: that featured fort points combined from two teams in the

1401
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: second quarter alone, but once the second half rolled around,

1402
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: it was domination four Green Bay, which outscored the Bears

1403
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: three in the final two periods, coasting to the win.

1404
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. The Bears UH fall to four and nine,

1405
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: they're out of the picture. They don't even get to

1406
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: be on the fringe. If you can't even be in

1407
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: the fringes of a playoff race this year, you stink

1408
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: your four nine. And the Packers, on the other hand,

1409
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: moved to ten and three and put themselves in position,

1410
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: uh to be very much alive in that race for

1411
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: the number one seed. What did you see for them

1412
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: today that you liked? Did it like anything you got, buddy?

1413
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we we do not know the ceiling of

1414
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, and you know they consistently or

1415
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 1: either in your top spot in the power rankings or

1416
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: hovering very close as they should be. I will say

1417
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: this though, Um, it's another example for me that we

1418
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: spent all last week. I mean I personally did talking

1419
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: about this game. It will be not competitive, it shouldn't

1420
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: be on television. And you know, for all the Matt

1421
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: nicky talk, the Bears came to play. I mean, this

1422
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: was the highest scoring second quarter in the history of

1423
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: the Bears Packers rivalry. And I guys like Jachem Grant

1424
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: I thought, like, we're remarkable for the Bears in the

1425
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: first half, but you cannot contain Green Bay's offense for

1426
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: the entire game, and the Bears fizzled up towards the end.

1427
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: YEA one Bears in the second quarter. That's like, that's

1428
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 1: a games games worth, uh, But it was a Packers offense.

1429
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: You say that you can contain and that makes sense,

1430
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: but you have you were able to contain them for

1431
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 1: about nine weeks this season, and now that Packers offense,

1432
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: like I hope defense has had their fun against them,

1433
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: because that Packers offense is gone. Even though Elton Jenkins

1434
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: isn't there now and Bok trs not back, they are

1435
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 1: fully loaded and Rogers is three best games of the

1436
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: season are the last three now in a row. Though

1437
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,799
Speaker 1: sometimes this is a game where if you watch the highlights,

1438
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: actually that will tell the story for you. Because that

1439
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: throw to Adams to end the first half, to me,

1440
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: that was the biggest drive of the game, and they

1441
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: were down fourteen the Packers. They get the ball back

1442
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: with one thirty two after the Jacheme Grant punt return

1443
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 1: and they go right down the field, and that throw

1444
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: to Adams was outrageous. Then the touch throw the lollipop

1445
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: to Aaron Jones uh in the third quarter was outrageous.

1446
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: Davantae Adams route that he's set up Jalen Johnson in

1447
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. That's outrage. I hope the highlights at

1448
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: least show the third and eighteen to Lazard in the

1449
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: first quarter too, because that was a crazy and Rogers throw.

1450
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: He is out of his mind right now. Yeah, he is.

1451
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 1: The last three games from Rogers with a buy mixed in. UM,

1452
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: the three games since we started hearing about this bad toe,

1453
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: which is he talks about the bad toe about like

1454
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,919
Speaker 1: Big Ben talks about his injuries. We hear about it constantly,

1455
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: but we don't see any actual ramifications on the field.

1456
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: You said, Mark, we don't know what the Packer ceiling is.

1457
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: I think it depends how you want to look at

1458
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: like what the phrase means. If to me, if you're

1459
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: a true top of the line Super Bowl contender, and

1460
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: I think there's three of them, Green Bay, Arizona, Tampa Bay,

1461
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: and that's what I see right now. Um, there is

1462
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: no ceiling they are. They are a team that very

1463
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 1: has a very good chance of winning this whole thing.

1464
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: And I think they play so well on both sides

1465
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: of the ball. That's why they've been number one of

1466
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: the Power ranks for me, just because I think they're

1467
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: so balanced on both sides. So I also think the

1468
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: football gods have a sense of humor. I gotta say that.

1469
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,520
Speaker 1: We we had a lot of fun on this podcast

1470
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: late last week talking about how dare they keep the

1471
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: Bears in Sunday night football? And this is where the

1472
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: sense of humor comes. And we're recording the podcast. The

1473
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: most of the podcast, it goes into, uh, the Sunday

1474
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: night football game. Then we all sit down together in

1475
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: the second half and watch the rest of the game

1476
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: and then come back to the studio and finish the

1477
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: pot and then Ricky gets it dressed up to send

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Speaker 1: it live. We missed the fun part of the game.

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Speaker 1: We got the bad part of the game, which was

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Speaker 1: a nice little kiss off from the football gods actually respected. Yeah,

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01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: annoyed like the gods um annoyed at the three of

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01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: us for our us. Yeah. Yeah. We flew too close

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01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: to the sun. And it's actually because there is so

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01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: much you know, we try to go back and watch

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01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: what happened as we're like watching, you know, while it's

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01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: half time or while it's the second episode. It gave

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: us more work to to go, you know. When you're

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: watching in gay pass and at the bottom they have

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01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: a little football where where there's a place. I mean,

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01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: there was just it was just like all empty. And

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01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 1: then there was like seventeen footballs, which I was like,

1492
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: what is what is happening in this game? I mean

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: Jachim Grant, I mean Ryan Pace, you gotta think about

1494
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: him for Executive of the Year for that Jachem Grant

1495
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins trade. What a what a performance I

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01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: will say, by the way, I mean the things that

1497
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,759
Speaker 1: we missed. That what that nine seven yard punt return

1498
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 1: was the longest in Bears history dating back to and

1499
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: that the five touchdowns that we missed in that single

1500
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: quarter were the first time that was the first time

1501
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: in NFL history that there were five touchdowns at thirty

1502
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: five plus yards in the single quarter. What one last

1503
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: quick It was really interesting the A J. Dillon at

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01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: fifteen carries here and Jones who looked good only at

1505
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: five and then Matt Matt Lafleur should get credit, you know,

1506
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: and they they start and put up those stats and everything.

1507
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: He's great at getting Adams open, like some of those

1508
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: play calls in the first half. That's like what his

1509
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: job is is even though everyone knows Adams is the

1510
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: only thing on in terms of their receivers, they find

1511
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 1: ways to get him open. It's not all just Adams,

1512
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: it's they They get him into great matchups and they

1513
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: do a great job. But he's having such an amazing

1514
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: career and you know, part of it is timing and

1515
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: just kind of fortuity where you where do you end

1516
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: up with Adams. But I'm not taking anything away from

1517
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: he's also a tremendously talented receiver. But when you put

1518
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: together a great offensive scheme, legendary quarterback and a guy

1519
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: with elite skills, you get the production you get from Adams.

1520
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: Who is you know, if he keeps his pace up,

1521
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: he is an absolute Hall of Fame straight Sunday night

1522
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: football games with a touchdown. But that is that is

1523
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: some matters like he's a money he's a money player.

1524
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: He's a guy you want on the field of big spots,

1525
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: including the playoffs where the Packers are heading. Now, Mark,

1526
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: before we say goodbye, um, not to like take a

1527
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: serious start here, but um, you had mentioned the Jachem

1528
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: Grant uh Hunt return and how it was historic for

1529
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: the Bears, and we take that as gospel from you

1530
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: because we trust in you to give us the right information.

1531
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: But apparently there's something you wanted to share. Maybe a

1532
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: a misstep, so we'll just throw it to you and

1533
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. Yes, um, you know this

1534
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: came to my attention while we were watching the second

1535
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: half of that game. UM, so it's a message to

1536
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: my colleagues, to my friends, my enemies, you, uh, and

1537
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: to all listeners wherever you might be. Earlier in tonight's

1538
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: episode of the Around the NFL podcast, I committed a

1539
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 1: verbal misstep. Um. In the blinding fury of postgame information

1540
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: coming my way, I noted that the Raiders forty nine

1541
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: loss was the worst in the organization's storied history. As

1542
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,759
Speaker 1: play by play dudes sometimes say, check that, in fact,

1543
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: it was the Raiders worst loss in their sixty one

1544
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: year rivalry with the Kansas City Chiefs. For this grave error,

1545
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: I will submit myself to Human Resources for dense questioning.

1546
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: Following tonight's broadcast, I say this humbly. Seacrest out, Well,

1547
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: you're a big man obviously for coming clean there. But

1548
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: I ultimately becomes a Brian Williams situation where it's nothing

1549
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: short of that. Once you are flying on the helicopter

1550
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: there in Iraq. It's your turn. You took enemy fire.

1551
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: We accepted a struth because you tell us it once

1552
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: the cats out of the bag, as it were, once

1553
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: we find out something you told us wasn't true. How

1554
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: do you kind of go forward, Greg and say, Okay,

1555
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: what he's saying is not nonsense, it's actually factual. I

1556
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what to think anymore. Right, there's kind

1557
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: of nothing you can say. There's you know, a bond

1558
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: that we have with Mark, just as a journal or

1559
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: did have. Sure, it's in the past, and how do

1560
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: you how do you replace that because now it's just

1561
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 1: words coming out of your mouth? You know? Can I

1562
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: say you're gonna humbly, you know, put yourself in front

1563
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: of HR. It's Sunday night at I don't think they're here. Yeah,

1564
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: I don't even think they're here. I think their home.

1565
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: Do you want to if you want to deal in facts?

1566
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: By the way, I did not say when that would

1567
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 1: have annoyed with Greg, I said I would submit myself

1568
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: to Human Resources for dense questioning following tonight's broadcast. Tomorrow

1569
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: would also be following tonight's broadcast, We've been on fire

1570
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: by the way, locking up things. I'm gonna lock up

1571
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: Mark and Gregg by the end of the season. You're

1572
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: gonna lock it up if I'm still here. I mean,

1573
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: this was I have to admit, I'm not trying to,

1574
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, be brash here. This was a hideous turning point,

1575
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: um for myself and for the show. And I apologized, Well,

1576
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: you're a class act. I'll leave it at that. That's

1577
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: up for debate. Um. All right, here we go Week fourteen,

1578
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: the flagship in the books. Coming up next for us Tuesday.

1579
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: Check us out. We'll recap the Monday night football game.

1580
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 1: And it's a gorgeous matchup and there's a lot of

1581
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: speaking of Mark. Nobody is more like into the lock game.

1582
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: Nobody needs it more than Mark. Uh. And he has

1583
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: his Cardinals locked up over the Rams. So we'll talk

1584
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: about that the game. The fallout of the confidence is

1585
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: that high for the confidence was pretty high about that fact.

1586
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: Talk about the Raiders too, just saying okay, noted, watch it,

1587
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: check it out. We'll back Tuesday. Uh. You know, of

1588
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,919
Speaker 1: course check out the NFL Network show. It's on every Saturday.

1589
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: I think we're doing good work with that show. So

1590
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: this is everybody. If you haven't done it yet, this

1591
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: is the week to follow the podcast and watch the

1592
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 1: show on NFL Network or on game Pass anyway. That's it.

1593
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Grave Digger Man still think about the Grave

1594
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: Digger revelation a lot. I think about it roughly fifty

1595
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: nine out of every sixty minutes. I believe it all

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01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: right until Tuesday he had the call.