1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Joshua P. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Warre. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird. This 12 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: is a strange thing just Wimmen's Joshua Warna. 13 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: I am Joshua pe Warren, and each week on this show, 14 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind gloving content, news exercises, 15 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 16 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the show, how to 17 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: I Am making a radionics time camera. Yeah you heard 18 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: me right, a radionics time camera. This is one of 19 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: those shows that is going to force me to challenge 20 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: myself because this is an elaborate topic. It's one of 21 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: the most fascinating topics in the entire world. But in 22 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: order for me to dig into it, I am going 23 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: to have to use some technical wording. 24 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: We'll call it. 25 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to go so far as jargon, but 26 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: some technical wording in order to talk about the nuts 27 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: and bolts of the experiment that I've been doing it. 28 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: And some of you are more comfortable with that kind 29 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: of terminology than others, but bear with me. I'll do 30 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: my best to keep this as simple as possible. Let 31 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: me just start by saying that one of my earlier shows, 32 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: episode thirty four, was called The Last Werewolf and Time 33 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: Travel Cameras, And if you haven't listened to that, please 34 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: go back find episode thirty four of this show. You 35 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: will not be disappointed. So I'm not going to go 36 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: too deep into that particular edition of the show. But 37 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: one thing I talked about was the so called chronovisor 38 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: And just to give you a quick recap, apparently, and 39 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, there is a website here 40 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: called the Lyntonian dot com that gives a nice overview. 41 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: Sometime in the early nineteen sixties, supposedly a group of 42 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: respected Italian physicist, engineers, and mathematicians led by this Benedictine 43 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: friar created this device called the Kronovisor working at the Vatican, 44 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: and the friar, whose name was Ernetti, claimed the machine 45 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: could look into the past and bring back recordings of 46 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: historic events, just like a television, and it had very 47 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: similar components to a television, but apparently according to them, 48 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: and this was written about in a book, which is 49 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: how we know the whole story, a book that is 50 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: in French. I have a copy of it somewhere, even 51 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: though I don't read French. But these images were supposedly 52 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: captured from the past and could appear in the form 53 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: of holographs, so that you could even rotate them to 54 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: view these images from different perspectives. So we're talking about 55 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: things like going back and witnessing the birth or the 56 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: crucifixion of Christ. And according to this book and the 57 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: legend surrounding this Kronovisor project, it was deemed so powerful, 58 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: so dangerous in a sense because of its ability to 59 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: potentially rewrite history, that it was either destroyed and the 60 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: plans will probably never be be revived, or it was 61 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: locked away in the most secret possible spot at the Vatican, 62 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: the Vatican where it remains to this day, it is 63 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: still sometimes used by them. I don't think we'll ever 64 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: know whether or not to believe that story, however, And 65 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: this is just one thing that is pretty pretty amazing. 66 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: There was an Italian magazine at one point that wrote 67 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: an article about that story, and they published a picture 68 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: that they claimed was a picture of the face of 69 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ that was captured using the chronovisor And if 70 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: you want to see that picture, I currently have it 71 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: posted on my website. If you go to Joshua Pwarren 72 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: dot com and click the link to the Curiosity Shop, 73 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: scroll down and you will see a variety of interesting images. 74 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: One of them says chronovisor pick, and there you will 75 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: see what they claim is a picture of the real 76 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: face of Jesus captured using the chronovisor so. Now, I 77 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: have heard that story for many years, and that seemed 78 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: like something that was that would be great for some 79 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of a science fiction movie. But it gave me 80 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: no way of putting my hands onto some tools to 81 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: try to figure out how to create such a thing. 82 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: But there is this other project that I had heard 83 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: about for decades, which is totally separate but very similar 84 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: and more in my Willhouse and that is the idea 85 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: of a radionics time camera. And now you should know 86 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: this if you listen to this show. But by radionics, 87 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: some people call it psionics. We're talking about using symbols 88 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: and symbolic language to create thought forms that you project 89 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: into reality, often through something like a wishing machine, to 90 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: create some tangible outcome. So it's a simple way of 91 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: hacking reality. If you want to watch videos about this, 92 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: the place to go is Wishingmachine Project dot com. Wishingmachine 93 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Project dot com. Well, I have heard for decades about 94 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: these scientists who develop what is known as the radionics 95 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: time camera. I'm gonna give you more details in a minute, 96 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: but this would be considered just like the chronovisor the 97 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Holy Grail perhaps ICs and psionics experiments. We're talking about 98 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: creating a type of camera that you load unexposed filmen 99 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: and by setting radionically a location and a time, then 100 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: it's able to develop an image of what was happening 101 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: at that location at that time. So it could almost 102 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: be used like a real crystal ball. Again, look at 103 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: the power of seeing the past as it actually happened, 104 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: possibly viewing historical secrets related to things like buried treasure, 105 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: or even looking into the future to see who's going 106 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: to win at the super Bowl before you go to 107 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: the sports book in Vegas and place your bet. Now, 108 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: the question would become, well, how do these things actually work? 109 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: If they do work, we know that wishing machines and 110 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: radionics boxes are mind powered, and so could these simply 111 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: be mental imprints that the operator is the one actually 112 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: traveling through time mentally and using the machine in order 113 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: to capture an image of what was found there, almost 114 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: like a remote viewer. 115 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: Well, that may be because the mind is a time machine. 116 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: You know. 117 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, how that when you have 118 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: a memory, what you're doing is mentally traveling through time 119 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: to the past. 120 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: And then if you. 121 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Start imagining how you're going you know, what you're going 122 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: to have for lunch tomorrow, Well you're time traveling into 123 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: the future and possible future avenues. So that said, let 124 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: me get very specific with you and tell you that. 125 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: There was this. 126 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Publication that would come out sometimes in the early nineteen nineties. 127 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: I have one in my hands right now, and it's 128 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: a catalog that was published by a company in Hancock, 129 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: Wisconsin here in the United States called Lord Industries and 130 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: it's spelled lor Apostrophe d Lord Industries Limited New Age Alternatives. 131 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: I don't really know anything about who they were, but 132 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: they had these just amazing catalogs that also incorporated a 133 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: lot of articles about these extremely bizarre topics related to 134 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: the esoteric and metaphysical and psychicing. So here is one 135 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: article that appeared often in this catalog. It has a 136 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: picture of a radionics box which used to be called 137 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: by most people. They used to call them a black box. 138 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: And here's what it says. A mysterious looking device occupied 139 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: the center of the big research lab just outside of Oxford, England. 140 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: George Delaire, head of the huge laboratory complex, and several 141 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: technicians were busily making last minute adjustments to some of 142 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: the dials that covered the apparatus. With a final nod 143 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: of approval, doctor Delaire inserted a piece of ordinary photographic 144 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: film into an opening in the device, and after a 145 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: few moments, removed a picture, a picture of his wife 146 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: and himself on their wedding day thirty years before. Now 147 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: that's the opening to this piece and probably one of 148 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: the first times that I heard about this concept, and 149 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: since then, over the years, occasionally I have had people 150 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: contact me, people who are true students of radionics and 151 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: psionics and wishing machines, and say, I've heard this story 152 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: about this time machine, this you know, radionics time camera 153 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: that would allow you to take pictures of things that 154 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: happened in the past, if not the future. What's the 155 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: deal there? Well, I have been looking into it more 156 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: and more over the years, and when we come back, 157 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you a little bit more about 158 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: the real story here of who these people were who 159 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: were creating these supposed time cameras. And then this is 160 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: something I've been putting off for a long time because 161 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: I just knew it was I wanted to do it. 162 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: If I was going to do it, I wanted to 163 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: do it right. 164 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: I finally have been. I figured out a plan for 165 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: how to put together a possible radionics time camera, and 166 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: I've been doing some experiments and so far I have 167 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: had some very interesting results. I'm going to explain to 168 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: you step by step what I've been doing and teach 169 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: you how you can start experimenting with this yourself. All right, Yeah, 170 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: it's one of those shows and if you like this 171 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: kind of show, hey, it's free content. So if you 172 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: want me to keep doing it, you got to support 173 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: the show. 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I am your host, 194 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your 195 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 196 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 197 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: Zietato zume. And here's something that I must tell. 198 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: You before I forget, because this is well, it's kind 199 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: of a big deal. I just realized the other day 200 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: that if you go to Strangethingsshow dot com Strange Thingsshow 201 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: dot com, then you will find, of course links to 202 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: different platforms where you can listen to this show. Right 203 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: at the top is iHeart, and of course you also 204 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: could just go directly to iHeart You don't have to 205 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: go through Strange thingshow dot com. But regardless, go to 206 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: iHeart search for Coast to Coast AM or my name 207 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: and you should find it. And now when you bring 208 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: up a show, below the description of the show, there 209 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: is a new little icon that says transcript and you 210 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: can click that button and boom, there is a written 211 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: transcript of every word in the show, and going all 212 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: the way back to episode one in October of twenty twenty. Now, 213 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know just how accurate the transcript is because 214 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance yet to really dig into it. 215 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: But this is amazing because I have had people contact 216 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: me over the years saying, hey, do you have a 217 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: transcript of the show, especially if we have someone who 218 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: has hearing problems, and I've said no that I don't. 219 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: Some people have made their own transcripts of the show. 220 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: But now apparently if you go there and I don't 221 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: know if this is going to be permanent or I mean, 222 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: you can copy this right now and paste it into 223 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: a document and save it send it to yourself in 224 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: an email. 225 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 226 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: So now I'm like, oh boy, I hope I didn't 227 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: say something that I wouldn't want to see in writing. 228 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I started out my career as a writer, 229 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: and even though I don't write as many books anymore, 230 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, I've published over twenty books. I still have 231 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: felt like that podcasting for me is a form of writing. 232 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: When I'm sitting here and talking to you, it's like 233 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm just writing off the top of my head. Now, sure, 234 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: I've got prep that I've done, just like I would 235 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: for a book, whether it's personal research or whatever. But 236 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: see this is what's happened to our technology. All forms 237 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: of media are are merging together into this indistinguishable thing 238 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: called information, and you can access the same information using 239 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: different different ways. So again I think only iHeart is 240 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: offering that right now, and so anytime, any how, any 241 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: way you can access iHeart through download the iHeart app 242 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: whatever it is. That's where you can find the transcripts 243 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: of the show. So that that was a nice surprise. Also, 244 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: before I continue talking about the time camera, you know 245 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: if any of you listening out there happened to know 246 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: anything about who this company or what this company, Lord 247 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: Industries was back at let's see, it was box one 248 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: fifty six, which they say was Highway G and Aspen 249 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: Ava in Hancock, Pennsylvania. Listen, Hancock, Wisconsin, zip code five 250 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: four nine four three. Let me know if you know 251 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 1: anything about what this company really was and uh and 252 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: what ended up happening to the company, because they did 253 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: publish a lot of really great stuff. All right, back 254 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: to the story at hand. So now when it comes 255 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: to the question of who was this man del r 256 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, that name is spelled d E. Okay, 257 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: it's three words, D E L A W. R R 258 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: just like the beginning of my last name. George Delair, 259 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: he apparently was also working on projects with his wife, 260 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: Marjorie Delair, but he was not the only person working 261 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: on this concept of creating a radionic camera. If you 262 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: go to Radionic's Spectracom, which is a website, they talked 263 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: some about how that really the first person who started 264 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: making big waves was a woman in the USA, uh, 265 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: doctor Ruth Drown, and then George and Marjorie Delaire in 266 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: England both invented a version of a radionic camera. They 267 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: think that doctor Ruth Brown was the first, the very 268 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: first one to do it, and it says she discovered 269 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: this amazing technique by connecting an unexposed photographic plate to 270 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: a radionic instrument using a wire, and when the photographic 271 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: plate was developed, the organ that the radionic instrument was 272 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: tuned to would appear on the film without the use 273 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: of any sort of light while the photo was being taken. 274 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: So she's looking at this as a form of almost 275 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: like X ray looking inside the human body. Says that 276 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: she was conducting all of these experiments connect a patient 277 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: directly to the radiotic instrument, put the rate for a 278 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: specific organ on the tuning dials, and when she did 279 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: this outside of the organ, the organ would be photographed. 280 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: She could even use a blood spot from the patient 281 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: as a witness and do the same thing. She used 282 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: this camera for diagnosing medical conditions. Many times her photograph 283 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: showed the same condition in a patient as was later 284 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: found by conventional medical X rays. She even received a 285 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: patent for her Drown camera in Britain in nineteen thirty nine. 286 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: But the thing is, it says that Drown camera was 287 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: not purely a mechanical piece of equipment like a traditional camera. 288 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: It required the use of some sort of psychicability on 289 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: doctor Drown's part to make the camera work. Not surprisingly, 290 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: she was persecuted by the FDA starting in nineteen fifty 291 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: one and they threw her in prison. So doctor Drown 292 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: was never able again to take photographs with the Drown 293 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: camera after her release, and within a few months she died. 294 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: Now was she just a quack like so many others 295 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: have been accused of being, like doctor Abrams or Phil 296 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: ham Reich. 297 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 298 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: But let's see what that says about George Delawa, the 299 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: guy I mentioned to begin with on the other side 300 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: of the Atlantic George Marjorie Deloire were doing similar things. 301 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty eight, George Delaire received a patent for 302 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: a camera that operated similar to the one doctor Drown invented, 303 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: but looked totally different. Also, like the Drown camera, it 304 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: could not work without the intent of the operator or 305 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: someone in close proximity with psychic abilities. Delaware called it 306 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: the Mark one camera, and he took thousands of pictures 307 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: with this camera. Says they were able to photograph the 308 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: growing fetus and a pregnant woman with only a spot 309 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: of the pregnant woman's blood. On one occasion, they photographed 310 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: the contents of the stomach of a sick cow using 311 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: only a drop of the cow's blood, et cetera, et cetera. 312 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: And then, of course he started doing these exceptional photos 313 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: where he would well, he would take pictures. 314 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: Of past events, and. 315 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: It says here he in nineteen fifty nine he was 316 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: able to take the photograph of his wedding day in 317 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty nine using a spot of blood of himself 318 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: and his wife along with the intent my wedding day, 319 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: and it showed two dark human like shapes. So now 320 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: here's the thing I don't know exactly what happened to 321 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: George Dela Wi and I have not seen this picture 322 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: I've searched, and I have not seen the picture that 323 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: has shows his supposed wedding from thirty years before. I'm 324 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: looking right now at a picture of the supposed fetus, 325 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: and yes, it does have the shape of a fetus, 326 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's. 327 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: Not that clear. So look, I don't know. 328 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Whether or not we should believe all of these stories 329 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: about these types of people, but I sure wanted to 330 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: experiment with this concept for myself because it seems like 331 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: that anytime somebody starts making some progress with radionics that 332 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: eventually they get shut down. So I started thinking about 333 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: the best way that I might be able to do 334 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: this in this day and age. Now I'll preface by 335 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: saying that I started experimenting with photography when I was 336 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: a teenager, to the point where I eventually bought what's 337 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: called a medium format camera similar to a hastleblog. Some 338 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: of you will know what I'm talking about, which took 339 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: some you know, serious photographic skills to get the right 340 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: exposure and the right f stops. And you know, I 341 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: had a light meter, and again I don't want to 342 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: get too technical here, but you know, before I was 343 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: twenty years old, I was already shooting and editing sixteen 344 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: millimeter film motion picture film. But at one point, when 345 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: I was in my early twenties, I obtained what was 346 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: a type of Curelean camera which allows you to get 347 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: an image of the electrical charge that comes from someone's hand. 348 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: So basically, you would take somebody's finger, say, and put 349 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: it on top of an undeveloped photographic plate, and then 350 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: you would pass a current through that person's body and 351 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: then develop the image, and you would have like this 352 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: blue or reddish corona of light around the person's finger. 353 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: And this was a way that you might be possibly 354 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: capturing a photographic image of the person's energy filled or 355 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: astral body, or a theic body. 356 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: That was the idea. 357 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: But because I was exposed to that, it made me 358 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: think just recently about how I might be able to 359 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: adapt a similar method to the radionic time camera. And 360 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: the world has moved on, by and large so far 361 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: past using film exposure and film developing. Then I realized 362 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: that nowadays the easiest way to do such a thing 363 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: would be to take advantage of an old fashioned polaroid camera. 364 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: And depending on how old you are, I'm sure you know. 365 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: If you're in your forties, I guarantee you owned a 366 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: polaroid camera at some point when you were younger, or 367 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: at least we're around them. But if you are younger 368 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: than that and you don't know exactly what a polaroid 369 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: camera is, well, I have one in my hands that 370 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: I just bought for this experiment, and this is one 371 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: of the old polaroid one step cameras that takes the 372 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: six hundred film. I adapted this polaroid camera into my 373 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: radionics time camera experience, and I'm going to tell you 374 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: what I got when we come back. 375 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm Joshua P. 376 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio 377 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network, and 378 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: I will be back after these important messages. 379 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back to. 380 00:25:54,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast Coach AM 381 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua pe Warren, and 382 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: this is the show where. 383 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: The unusual becomes usual. 384 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: Now don't worry if what I'm about to describe to 385 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: you doesn't make perfect sense, because I shot a video 386 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: of myself going through this technique, and I'm going to 387 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: tell you how you can go and watch this video 388 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: as well, which makes things much much clearer. That video 389 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: is almost fourteen minutes long. 390 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: So okay. 391 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: So basically, if you were going to try to reproduce 392 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: something similar to what I've described, then probably the most 393 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: obvious technique would be to go into a dark room 394 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: and I'm in a dark dark room, no windows, no light, 395 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: and bring your wishing machine in there, your radionics machine. 396 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: It's got your input plate, your output plate, and your 397 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: tuning knobs, and then you would represent what you were 398 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: wanting to photograph on your input plate, tune the machine, 399 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: and then take a piece of unexposed film and either 400 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: lay that onto the output plate for minutes or hours, 401 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: or connect a wire from the output plate to the 402 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: unexposed film and let us sit there for a while. 403 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: And then when you're done, you would take that piece 404 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: of film, and then you would need to go through 405 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: the developing process, which could be kind of elaborate because 406 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: you need a variety of chemicals and containers, and you 407 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: you're working in the dark, and you need to know 408 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You need to have some space you 409 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: don't want to knock anything over and spill it. You 410 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: don't want to wait too long, you got, I mean like, 411 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot, there's a lot to be done. So 412 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: I felt the simpler solution was to use an old 413 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: fashioned polaroid camera, the kind that I had, you know, 414 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: thirty years ago. And I actually found one on eBay 415 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: that was in an estate, a collector's estate, and it's 416 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: an absolutely perfect condition. It looks like it was never used. 417 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: And the cool thing about a polaroid camera is, Okay, 418 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: basically what happens is when you buy the camera, it 419 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: has to flash and all that, but it does not 420 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: have a battery. You go out and you buy these 421 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: film packs, so and they're sealed up, and I have 422 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: right in front of me. I've been using color six 423 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: hundred film. So each pack has eight unexposed pieces of 424 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: film in it. You take your film pack out and 425 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: there is a little black piece of cardboard on top 426 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: of it. 427 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: You open the. 428 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: Camera, you slide the film pack into the camera, and 429 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: then you open the top section of the camera and 430 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: it spits out that piece of cardboard. And now when 431 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: you take a picture. I can't remember if I have 432 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: any film left in this one or not. But if so, 433 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: listen listen Nope, okay, it makes that famous sound. That sound, 434 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: but I guess this card or this film pack is empty. 435 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: Let's see, there we go. Did you hear it that time? 436 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: That famous sound? And what's so great about it is 437 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: the film pack. It's got a battery in it that 438 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: operates the flash, that operates the mechanics of the camera, 439 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: and all the developing chemicals are already sealed inside of 440 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: the picture. So when you when you take a photograph, 441 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: what happens is it just spits the picture out between 442 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: a couple of rollers, and those rollers squeeze the chemicals 443 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: that are inside of this picture and it develops everything. 444 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: And so you don't have to actually deal with the chemicals. 445 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: The chemicals are all stored inside the piece of polaroid film. 446 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: Hopefully that makes sense. And so what this means is 447 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: that you can go in into a dark room with 448 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: your polaroid camera. You can take your pack of Polaroid film. 449 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: You can open your pack of polaroid film in the 450 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: dark room, and then you can take that piece of 451 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: black cardboard off the top. You can expose this piece 452 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: of unexposed polaroid film to whatever you want by using 453 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: a flash bulb or a flash pack, and then after 454 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: you've exposed it, you stick it into the camera and 455 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: then the camera will spit it out and it'll develop 456 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: within ten or fifteen minutes. 457 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: And that's something that's kind of interesting. 458 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: This shows you how our perception of time has changed, 459 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: because I've asked a couple people like you remember developing 460 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: polaroid cameras camera film back the day, how long do 461 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: you think that that took? And they would say, oh, 462 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: about three minutes. Nope, it takes ten to fifteen minutes 463 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: for a polaroid picture to develop. And you see, now 464 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: we're so impatient that we've lost that track of time, 465 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: and that seems like forever to wait ten or fifteen minutes. 466 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: So what I did, for example, is I went into 467 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: I have a closet at my house that's big, and 468 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: it has no light whatsoever. It's just like a dark room, 469 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: and I took the camera in there. 470 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: I took the. 471 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: Polar weight film and the first thing I did was 472 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: just open the pack. I took the unexposed film pack, 473 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: and I put an amethyst necklace on it that I own, 474 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: nice purple amethyst with a chain. I hit it with 475 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: a film flash because I bought a little film flash 476 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: thing from Amazon. It wasn't much twenty thirty bucks. Exposed 477 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: it for about well, it's you know, maybe a thousandth 478 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 1: of a second, and you want to hold it up 479 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: a few feet away. And then I popped the film 480 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: into the Polaroid camera. It spit it out, and here 481 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: I got, in fifteen minutes a nice, beautiful portrayal of 482 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: my amethyst necklace. And so I say, okay, well, this 483 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: obviously is working. This is how I can expose a 484 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: piece of film without having to get my hands all 485 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: dirty with chemicals. 486 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: So then I took a coin. 487 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: I chose a Canadian coin because it had some nice 488 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: angles on it, even though I'm an American. 489 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: And I did the same thing. 490 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: I took out a piece of unexposed film in the 491 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: dark room, just using I'm just feeling my way through this. 492 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, they make these things called loading 493 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: bags that you can also use if you don't have 494 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: a completely dark space where you put everything inside. It's 495 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: a light sealed, a light proof sealed bag, and you 496 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: can work inside that you still can't see what you're doing. 497 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, so I took this Canadian coin, I put 498 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: it on there on the piece of unexposed film, hit 499 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: it with the flash bulb, and then I put the 500 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: piece of unexposed film into the camera and here goes. 501 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: It spits out a nice picture of the silhouette. 502 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: Of the Canadian coin. 503 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: So I have illustrated that this method is a good 504 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: method for developing, for taking an unexposed piece of film 505 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: and hitting it manually in a very hands on direct 506 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: way and developing it without all the chemical mess. So 507 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: now I go, okay, now I'm ready to move on 508 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: to more radionics type stuff. So this time I said, 509 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to use my flash Instead, I am 510 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: going to do the same thing, except I'm going to 511 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: take that Canadian coin and I'm going to put it 512 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: on the input plate of a wishing machine. I'm going 513 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: to tune that machine, and then I'm going to take 514 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: an unexposed piece of film and put it on the 515 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: output plate of the machine and just let it sit 516 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: there for I think maybe about a half an hour. Now, 517 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: there is a little red light on this particular machine 518 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: I was using, so I put a piece of black 519 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: tape over it to cover that up, but this film 520 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: is so sensitive there was still a little bit of 521 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: the red light that got through. Regardless, I never exposed 522 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: the actual coin to any type of light, and there's 523 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: no reason there should have been an image of that 524 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: coin that could somehow pass through this wishing machine onto 525 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: the output plate. And yet when I developed it, holy cow, 526 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: there is an image on the developed photo that looks 527 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: very much like the shape of the coin, so much 528 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: so that, as you can see in the video, if 529 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: I actually put the coin on top of the piece 530 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: of film, it matches up perfectly. Let me go ahead 531 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: and tell you where to watch this video. By the way, 532 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: if you go to Joshua Pwarren dot com and then 533 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: you scroll down same as I told you to do 534 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: for the chronavisor pick, you'll see at some point, actually 535 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: right now, it's below the cronavisor pick. It says click 536 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: here for the time camera experiment. Click here for the 537 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: time camera experiment. You click that link, it will take 538 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: you to this fourteen minute video and you will see 539 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: me going through this entire process and showing you exactly 540 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: how to do this. So now at this point I'm 541 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: feeling pretty inspired, Like, Okay, I know that this is 542 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: an authentic way of developing a picture directly on the film, 543 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: using traditional methods of photography. And now it looks like 544 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: I may be making some headway with getting something to 545 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: develop that is going through the machine radionically without a 546 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: traditional light exposure. So now it's time to move on 547 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: to the more serious experiment. Here. I thought about as 548 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: an omah to George Delaire, trying to see if I 549 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: could get a photograph from my wedding, which was, let's see, 550 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: how long ago was that twenty eight years ago? Or no, no, 551 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: it was I got Well, Lauren and I've been together 552 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: for twenty eight years, but I think I got married 553 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: like eighteen years ago. So anyway, regardless, I thought to myself, well, 554 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: you know what, why don't why don't I try to 555 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 1: do something that's even more exotic, something that I wasn't 556 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: there for, something that I there's less of a chance 557 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: that I could influence mentally. What's a historic incident that 558 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: happened that everybody would know about, that was documented very 559 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: well the place the time. And I thought, how about, well, 560 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: I grew up in North Carolina. How about when they're 561 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: right brothers had their first airplane flight Kitty Hawk, North Carolina. 562 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: It took place at ten thirty ten thirty five am 563 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: on December seventeenth of nineteen oh three. There in Kitty Hawk, 564 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: North Carolina. There's the Right Brothers National Memorial in kill 565 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: Devil Hills, North Carolina, showing you exactly where it happened. 566 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: So I go, I'm gonna plug that information into the 567 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: machine and see if I can get a picture of 568 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: something that happened long before I was born, the Right 569 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: Brothers First Flight. I'll tell you what I got when 570 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: we come back, and I've got something else cool to 571 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: share with you. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to 572 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 573 00:37:38,120 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome 574 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: back to the final segment of this edition of Strange 575 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: Things of the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 576 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. 577 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 2: I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. 578 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: And here you go. Oh, I thought I was going 579 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: to get that sound, that polaroids sound again. 580 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: There it is. I don't know if you can hear 581 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 2: that or not. 582 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: I like that sound, all right, So here's what I did. 583 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: I took a piece of paper and I wrote on 584 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: it Right Brothers first powered flight ten thirty five am, 585 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: December seventeenth, nineteen oh three, Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, and 586 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: I put the GPS coordinates. I took that piece of 587 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: paper with that information and I put it on the 588 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: input plate of my radionics box in a dark room. 589 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: And then I opened a fresh pack of Polaroid film. 590 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: I removed the piece of cardboard from the top. I 591 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: took the very first unexposed piece of film and I 592 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: laid it face down on the output plate of the 593 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: machine and left it there for two hours. Afterward, I 594 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: took the film pack, I inserted it into the Polaroid camera. 595 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: The Polaroid camera spit it out fifteen minutes later. It 596 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: was developed and it was black. There was nothing on it, 597 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 1: just as one would expect. I tried this a couple 598 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: more times, and I was able to get some shadowy forms, 599 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: but nothing that I could conclusively say was an image 600 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: of the Right Brothers at Kitty Hawk having their first flight. 601 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: You can imagine how shocking it would be to capture 602 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: something like that, And at one point I even said, 603 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: you know what, let me just try doing this and 604 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: here I am in this dark room, and I said, 605 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: why don't I just skip the radionics machine, the wishing 606 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: machine altogether, And I just took an unexposed piece of 607 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: polaroid film, held it to my forehead, to my third eye, 608 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: and I sat there thinking about the pictures that I've 609 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: seen of the Right brothers doing this, seeing if I 610 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: could project something from my head onto the film, which 611 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: would also be like an impossible feat supposedly, even though 612 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: there are plenty of people who used to claim they could. 613 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 2: Do this same thing. 614 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: I popped it in and developed, and I did not 615 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: have any kind of discernible image. 616 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 2: So here's where I am at this point. 617 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: I think it is certainly possible that I have made 618 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: some headway radionically capturing an image from an object on 619 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: the input plate of a machine to the output plate 620 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: and therefore an unexposed piece of film. That is a 621 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: big enough deal. Even if that could be done, that 622 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: defies everything we know about how photography is supposed to work. 623 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: But I have not yet been able to actually get 624 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: a picture of something that happened at another point. 625 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 2: In space time. 626 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 1: And my purpose here, because this is the work in progress, 627 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: is to tell you this technique that I'm using, and 628 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: to allow you to know that even if you don't 629 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: have any extensive photo developing experience, you may still be 630 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: able to take this method that I've described to you, 631 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: which is the cleanest, simplest method of doing this, and 632 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: you may be able to tweak this by using different 633 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: types of machines, different types of exposures, like maybe it 634 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 1: needs to go a longer period of time, a shorter 635 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: period of time, maybe it needs to be tuned in 636 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: a different way. There are so many variables here that 637 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 1: you just have to experiment. So what I'm doing here 638 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: is is giving you a setup that you can use 639 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: that I believe is well. I've given you pearls, So 640 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: now it's up to you to take the time to 641 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you're like me, to do it yourself. 642 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: From here, continue experimenting. People who listen to this show, 643 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: like Ron or doctor Molder. I'm giving you potential gold, 644 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: so that if I drop dead tonight, at least this 645 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: is out there for the possible good of humankind. 646 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: This is an. 647 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: Approach that can be taken in order to try to 648 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: make something like a time camera. And let me reiterate 649 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 1: that if anything I've said about this technique seems unclear 650 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: to you. Go to Joshua P. Warren dot com. Go 651 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: to the Curiosity Shop. There is a link there below 652 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: the coronavisor pick that says click here for the time 653 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: Camera experiment, And when you do that, it's going to 654 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: take you to a video that says time Camera radionics, 655 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: psionics wishing machine. If there is any problem, if you 656 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: go there and that link is not working, well, then 657 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: keep trying. I will make sure that it is fixed. 658 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: I have a reason for telling you that, because you know, 659 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: there are some wacky things that are happening in the 660 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: world of technology these days. 661 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: And it comes to this though. 662 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things that I really think 663 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: is fascinating is this sort of almost impossible task of 664 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 1: trying to understand if this technique works in any way whatsoever. 665 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: How much of it is the radionics box acting as 666 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: a piece of technology that is capable of developing a 667 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: piece of film using something other than the photons of light, 668 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: versus acting as a transmitter for some psychic imagery that 669 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: you have. That again, it's your brain that's doing the 670 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: work here, and you're just using the machine as a 671 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: tool to get an image of the work, so that 672 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 1: if I were to see the right brothers, it would 673 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: be because I was psychically seeing them all those years 674 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 1: ago and then just using this technique to develop the image. 675 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: It reminded me that my birthday was October twenty fifth, 676 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: and on my birthday, I read this very interesting news 677 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: story that was published at WLOS dot com, which is 678 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: the news station there in Asheville, North Carolina, where I 679 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: was born, and it says, oh, come on, all right, 680 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: psychic medium finds human remains while searching for missing team. 681 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: Stuff like this kind of gives you a renewed faith 682 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: and the idea that there is something very tangible to 683 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: psychic phenomena. The story actually originates from j Maine. That's 684 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: a place in Maine. Apparently, says it's like something from 685 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: a movie. A psychic medium stumbles upon human remains, but 686 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: this was real and it happened while the woman was 687 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: looking for a long time missing teenager in Maine. Teenager 688 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: was named Kimberly Moreau says here for the police, this 689 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: scenario is just unheard of. That's what they're claiming here. 690 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: Sergeant said it was great to happen, but not something 691 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: we rely on Kimberly Moreau. This team went missing in 692 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: May of nineteen eighty six, and they've followed countless tips 693 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: ever since, trying to figure out fine to trying to 694 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: figure out what happened here. And then there's a psychic 695 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: medium named Laurencia Borgeaux. I guess I'm pronouncing that right, 696 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: And Laurencia Borgeaux says, this is the first case I 697 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: worked on. Borgeaux says she has been an intuitive her 698 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: entire life, but she's been working sort of training to 699 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: become a psychic medium. She said, I built up my 700 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: skill set in order to tune into a location, or 701 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: into the person, or into a perpetrator. See, this would 702 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: be interesting to take somebody like that and put her 703 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: in front of one of these wishing machines in a 704 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: dark room with some kind of a wire from her 705 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 1: head to the input plate connected to that undeveloped piece 706 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: of film. She says she's been able to narrow in 707 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: on search spots on a map, and she likes to 708 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: use a pendulum and yes or no questions. I've talked 709 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: about that technique on the show before. She says she 710 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: gets visions sometimes to draw people or locations. She said 711 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: she heard a voice tell her to go to a 712 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 1: bowling alley in connection with the Moreau case, and she 713 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: knew it was significant she heard it a second time. 714 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,840 Speaker 1: She said, it was very obvious when I heard it 715 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: a second time, and so she went over there and 716 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: she started looking around, and it looks like the teenager's 717 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: dad may have even been there trying to work with her. 718 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: And it says, sure enough, we felt strongly, and when 719 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 1: we went there, we found a body. Bargeaux said she 720 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: spotted boots and a jacket coming out of the ground. Says, quote, 721 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: I saw what looked like a stick sticking out of 722 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: the ground. So I went and grabbed it and pulled 723 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 1: it out and it was a bone end quote very emotional, 724 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: long day. And so the funny thing is they say 725 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: this is exciting that they've discovered a body, but now 726 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure out whose remains were found. 727 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: They don't think it was the remains of the girl necessarily, 728 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: But how do you like that for some validity to 729 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: psychic phenomena? The clock has got us. Take a deep breath, 730 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: if you can close your eyes, and let's enjoy the 731 00:48:50,120 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: good fortune tone that's it for this edition of the show. 732 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: Follow me at Joshua P. 733 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 2: Warren. 734 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: Plus visit Joshuapwarren dot com to sign up for my 735 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: free E newsletter to receive a free instant gift, and 736 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: check out the cool stuff in the Curiosity Shop. All 737 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: at Joshuapwarren dot com. I have a fun one lined 738 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: up for you next time, I promise. So please tell 739 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: all your friends to subscribe to this show and to 740 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: always remember the Golden Rule. Thank you for listening, thank 741 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: you for your interest and support. Thank you for staying curious, 742 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: and I will talk to you again soon. You've been 743 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 744 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 745 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 3: Well, if you like this episode of Strange Things, wait 746 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 3: till you hear the next one. Thank you for listening 747 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 3: to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.