WEBVTT - Which Team Will Move Into The Top 10 By Draft Night?

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<v Speaker 1>So to be fair, I got a text from Terrell yesterday. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was two days ago in today's time, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is coming out on Tuesday, and Torell was in

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate City. He was in the Nation's capital watching a

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<v Speaker 1>little w NBA, watching our Undermachine aka the DC Mystics,

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Mystics versus the Chicago Sky And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>do I have him in the studio. We can talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little NBA draft here. So, without further ado, Terrell

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<v Speaker 1>What is your overall I guess vibe of this draft stardom.

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<v Speaker 3>This feels like stardom because you have the next carnation

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<v Speaker 3>of Jesus walking on earth. Who is Victor wim Mignyana

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<v Speaker 3>that has everybody made it seem like he's just automatically

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<v Speaker 3>going to be great. And for one, if he's not

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<v Speaker 3>good the first year, guys, please give him some time.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still a center, like center is a hard position

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<v Speaker 3>to learn in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>But you have him. Then you have Scoot Henderson, who.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a guy that if you ask anybody who watches

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<v Speaker 3>Scoot Henderson, he is a number one overall pick. But unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>because Jesus reincarnated walk that are forgetting Victor wm Binyonna,

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<v Speaker 3>he is now being taught about. In number two with

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon Miller. You go even further down and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>about a guy that I like who was number one

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<v Speaker 3>overall high school recruit and he's sliding in the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is just a draft full of stardom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think I wonder because there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>teams that are rumored to be moving up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the board that you wonder, is it a deep draft?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it like a three four person star draft with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good role players, Like if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to assess how many guys outside of the top three

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<v Speaker 1>actually start year one.

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<v Speaker 3>We think outside of the top three, I think you

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of questions. I think that where the

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<v Speaker 3>issue is gonna come is everybody wants to see those

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<v Speaker 3>starters come in and average twenty points per game. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're a big you're already in double double territory. I

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<v Speaker 3>should be betting your double double every game.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Evan Mobley. Look at Evan Mobley.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he is a really really good starter. In his

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<v Speaker 3>first year, you were like, Okay, this guy's all right.

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<v Speaker 3>He averaged sixteen seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's really good for a pretty good player rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really good for a rookie NBA player like Palo

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<v Speaker 3>ben Cao. He's been really really good and he's getting better,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's gonna be better next year.

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<v Speaker 2>We have che Hulk, who we haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Even seen yet. Like they're all these players in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>People want them to just come in and be those

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<v Speaker 3>all star twenty plus thirty plus per game scores, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just gonna happen like that, Like it takes

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<v Speaker 3>time to actually develop a player like they did Evan

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<v Speaker 3>Mobley and Cleveland and now Evan Mobley next year could

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<v Speaker 3>be knocking on the door all stars out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you talk about Evan Mobley and that is just

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting thing about bigs and bigs taking a long

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<v Speaker 1>time to develop. Also, oshayok Baji like he came on late.

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<v Speaker 1>He was really good. I liked him a lot at Kansas.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be fascinating to see how many guys

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<v Speaker 1>come in and contribute right away. Another storyline that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of circulating is just all these teams that have needs

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<v Speaker 1>and they think are going to be active right Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>See is rumored to want to move up New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks are rumored to want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, they're not. They're not.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think they're gonna go first.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody wants to come New York. Nobody wants come to Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Toronto rumored to move up. Cleveland rumored to move up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had to give a guess, who do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that's not in the top ten now moves into

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<v Speaker 1>the top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Golden State. Wow, if you're done leaving, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>make a splash. You have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Byers gave this organization four championships for like, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're done leaving, you got to make a splash, and

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<v Speaker 3>saying that Jordan Poole is coming back for the next

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<v Speaker 3>four years is not the way to make that splash.

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<v Speaker 3>As the first active new GM power in Golden State,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's one hundred percent Golden State.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Golden States are.

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<v Speaker 3>Buyers at the at the draft and they find their

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<v Speaker 3>way in the top ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Like, who who do you think they Who do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they make a trade with? Because it can't

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<v Speaker 1>be ten. I don't think Mavericks need a Jordan Pool.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to probably try to move up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I'd be surprised because they they could

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<v Speaker 3>use some more death, especially for Dallas. But I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>at teams that kind of either got rid of their

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<v Speaker 3>picks or they're just in this mode.

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<v Speaker 2>Of stockpiling picks.

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<v Speaker 3>Utah just feels like a team that's like, well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going nowhere fast, guys, so we might as well

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<v Speaker 3>trade back. So Utah at nine is like the number

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<v Speaker 3>one team I'm looking at. Washington didn't get a first

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<v Speaker 3>round pick for Bradley Beal. We're gonna talk about that,

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<v Speaker 3>but like.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So Washington could could move back, or Washington could just

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<v Speaker 3>be a buyer and get somebody really good there.

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<v Speaker 2>But Washington can move back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a couple of teams up there that I think

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<v Speaker 3>would move back with the Golden State and Golden State

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<v Speaker 3>take a Derek Lively the second. You know, probably the

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<v Speaker 3>best defensive big in the draft class.

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<v Speaker 1>So you really like Derek Lively. That hold on, let

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<v Speaker 1>me let me wait on that one, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting trade could be Wizards trade Chris Paul for

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever, Chris Paul and the eight pick for Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Poole and whatever. Yeah, Golden State has are they seventeen eighteen?

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<v Speaker 2>I think?

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<v Speaker 3>And Chris Paul said he wants to go to a

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<v Speaker 3>contender and still compete nineteen. You know, that's definitely in

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong possibility. I think Chris Paul makes everything fun

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<v Speaker 3>because you ought to like, he's worth some type of value.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody wants to devalue Chris Paul, and I completely understand it,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's worth some type of value. So that with

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<v Speaker 3>the first round pick is enticing to get a player

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<v Speaker 3>that can come in your organization and play now.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>But oh man, the DC team very very poverty organizations.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they're doing anything that's any benefit to them.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think even with Michael Winger coming in from

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers, which, by the way, the Clippers have made

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<v Speaker 1>some really bad draft moves as well, underratedly bad draft moves. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>moving Shay was was a terrible not only.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving Shaye but giving up every single.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick and Shae seven.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about it, and we talked about the worst

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<v Speaker 3>trades one day and we said Rudy Gobert probably is

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<v Speaker 3>going to go down as the worst ever. But nobody's

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<v Speaker 3>talking about how bad that Paul George trade was and

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that now Shay is a first teamer and

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<v Speaker 3>he could potentially he almost led his team to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he almost led to his team to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know that that Paul George trade is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So okay, so let's talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the teams that we think might be active.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think Orlando's trying to do and

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<v Speaker 1>how do you think they're trying to prioritize this draft

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<v Speaker 1>because Palo said already that this year they have six

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<v Speaker 1>and eleven. Palo said this year as playoffs or bust

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<v Speaker 1>i really think this is a young team. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that they've got the sixth pick and the eleventh pick,

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<v Speaker 1>So do they package those picks to maybe try to

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<v Speaker 1>get up into the top three to four? Do they

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<v Speaker 1>sell off one of those picks for a veteran, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? And obviously they're in need of

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<v Speaker 1>a point guard, even though they have a million of them,

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<v Speaker 1>they still need that and they need rim protection. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to be a a better for what

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando does, what do you think they do?

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<v Speaker 3>I think D's in the situation where you can kind

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<v Speaker 3>of just let the draft board fall to you, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>like if you want to make a splash play and

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<v Speaker 3>go trade up into that top four. And it seems like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we know number one is not trading, and Charlotte has

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<v Speaker 3>maintained that they're not going to trade their pick. I

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<v Speaker 3>just saw today that Portland's said they're probably not going

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<v Speaker 3>to trade their pick. I wouldn't be surprised if Houston

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<v Speaker 3>tried to trade. But right now the top four, none

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<v Speaker 3>of the top four teams are hurting for picks. Like

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<v Speaker 3>everybody has an assortment of picks over the next few years.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what I'm looking for for teams that are

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<v Speaker 3>looking to trade out of that top ten spot. Is

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<v Speaker 3>what teams do not have picks coming up that would say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we can get another first round or this year, and

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<v Speaker 3>I can get a first round or next year and

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<v Speaker 3>replace some of those picks. And so I think they

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<v Speaker 3>hold serve. I think they hold serve and they just

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<v Speaker 3>let it come to them. Like you have a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good chance at number six to get one of the twins,

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<v Speaker 3>well the lesser twin as some people say Asar So

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<v Speaker 3>you still have a chance to get him. You have

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<v Speaker 3>a chance to get Cam w Moore, you still have

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Black. It's a lot of really really good players.

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<v Speaker 3>You talk about rim protection, Derek Livey's gonna be in

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<v Speaker 3>there somewhere, And that's one of my teams that I

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<v Speaker 3>have Lively going to if not trade at trade Yeah

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<v Speaker 3>maybe at eleven. I don't think they would jump at six, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe at eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>He could be there at eleven and just offer you

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<v Speaker 3>that rim protection. Like everybody that needs rim protection, Dallas, Utah, Orlando,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody should be looking at Derek Lively in that eight

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<v Speaker 3>to eleven range. So I can see something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't think they. I just can't see them

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<v Speaker 3>making a trade with anybody unless somebody comes from behind

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<v Speaker 3>and gives them two three extra picks.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think Derek g Liively is gonna be?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the big man position is so polarizing, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Derek Lively who's sort of kind of been

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<v Speaker 1>creeping up the draft boards. A lot of teams like him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not a big fan of taking big men

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten, top twelve period because they're just

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<v Speaker 1>such big bus potential, right. I love Duran, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that you should have taken him there. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what he ends up being, Like James Wiseman, hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>worked out, like a lot of these big men that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the lottery don't end up working out very

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<v Speaker 1>often right away. What do you like most about him?

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<v Speaker 3>I like him more because of the situation I hate

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<v Speaker 3>potentially go to and less about the player. So the

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<v Speaker 3>player is an amazing player. We know he's a shot

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<v Speaker 3>blocker average like some five point six rebounds in a

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<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of blocks over during his time.

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<v Speaker 2>And Duke hate the dookies.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's like Mark Williams too, and he is just

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<v Speaker 1>Trash and Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's like it's the timing. Biggs take time

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<v Speaker 3>to develop to the league, Like you can't just come

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<v Speaker 3>into Polo can come into the league and he can

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<v Speaker 3>give the league twenty Like if you watch Polo in

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<v Speaker 3>summer League, you watched Polow in this rookie year, every

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<v Speaker 3>one of his buckets were grown. Man, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>a bucket bucket. Biggs don't get that opportunity, Like you

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<v Speaker 3>have to learn defensive setups, you have to learn how

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<v Speaker 3>to switch over. You got to learn the pick and

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<v Speaker 3>roll and being able to guard the pick and roll, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to learn all this stuff as a big

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<v Speaker 3>and that doesn't just come in one season, Like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of that is trial and error, Like Rudy Gobert

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<v Speaker 3>didn't come in and he looked didn't look like a

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<v Speaker 3>defensive player of years first year, Draymond Green didn't look

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<v Speaker 3>like a defenced player.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the years first year. Like some of that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>takes time.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the issue that I had with Golden State

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<v Speaker 3>when it was time and they picked wise men, was

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<v Speaker 3>it a great pick for them, Yes, because they needed size,

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<v Speaker 3>But there was no way Golden State was waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>that because they're in a win now, more win now

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<v Speaker 3>now MO terrible situation, but now wise men over there,

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<v Speaker 3>and same thing with Duran them and Detroit, well, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't got nothing to wait for. If y'all want to

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<v Speaker 3>take three four years, then fine, bite be all that.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I expect to see from Lively and

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<v Speaker 3>somebody take from Lively because I think organizations understand that

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<v Speaker 3>these bigs you gotta be patient with them, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna be patient, you don't need to take them.

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<v Speaker 3>So a team like Orlando that's not going anywhere fast,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter how much Polo wants to say that they are,

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<v Speaker 3>they really really are, okay, they can take and invest

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<v Speaker 3>more into them. A Golden State that is literally looks

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<v Speaker 3>like they're kind of retooling things we just saw Draymond

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<v Speaker 3>may potentially not be coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that news? Is that not news? We'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, Derek Lively could be good there in

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<v Speaker 3>a Golden State team that says, hey, we need a

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<v Speaker 3>year or two to reset this thing. But just expecting

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<v Speaker 3>him to come in and be this ultimate dominant defensive thing,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's gonna happen why.

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<v Speaker 1>You think Walker Kessler developed so fast.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's because he's his offensive game and he

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<v Speaker 3>was able to stretch the floor in how he was

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<v Speaker 3>with that Utah Jazz team where it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was go, go, go go. He was a big that

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<v Speaker 2>can run the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a big that in our Auburn he was

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<v Speaker 3>able to be able more on the offensive side and

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<v Speaker 3>less about defense, Like we didn't really think of Walker

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<v Speaker 3>Kessler as this big defensive shot blocking big like an

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<v Speaker 3>are like a Evan Mobley. No, it was just more of, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is another guy that's gonna be able to spread

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<v Speaker 3>the floor with us. At the time, they thought they

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<v Speaker 3>still had Rudy Gobert, so it was like, Okay, Ruby

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<v Speaker 3>Gobert anchors, we have this kind of big lineup, and

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<v Speaker 3>but Rudy Gobert goes all right, we bring in Walker Kessler.

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<v Speaker 3>Walker Kesler is going to help us get more and

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<v Speaker 3>more offense. So that was a lot easier for him.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he's just a big guy, so he's able

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<v Speaker 3>to dominate rebounding. But some of the little key things

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<v Speaker 3>like as a big, Kessel still has to work on.

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<v Speaker 1>But they I think he led the NBA though in blocks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a defensive monster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so I think that Kessler is now kind

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<v Speaker 3>of I think that's kind of where everybody wants you

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<v Speaker 3>to be. Is that kind of big that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>comes in and turns it over quickly. But on a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of other rosters, does he get that same opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it just he got the perfect situation with

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<v Speaker 3>no Rudy Gobert in Utah where they just said forget it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hardy was just like, go play, go play, go, go

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<v Speaker 3>do something, because we're not going to just sit here

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<v Speaker 3>and tank all these games. And that's part of the

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<v Speaker 3>reason why Utah was the best team as an underdog

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<v Speaker 3>last season.

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<v Speaker 2>Utah Jazz are inevitable.