1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I hope all 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: of you are having a fabulous Tuesday news coming, as 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: it often does during the Trump regime, at a rapid fashion. 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: We will dive into all of it here momentarily. Reminder, 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Trump is also speaking tonight in front of a joint 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: session of Congress, a usual State of the Union, although 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: I think in the year after the election it's not 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: officially called the State of the Union, but that is 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: what will be going on tonight and many will be 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: watching to see what the President says. Let me give 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: you a little bit of a roadmap we're headed. Senate 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Majority Leader John Thune going to be on with us 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: at the bottom of this hour. Every single Democrat senator 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: voted against men being prohibited from playing in women's sports. 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: In other words, they support men who identify as women 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: being able to and women's sports. Every single Democrat senator. 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Our friend Bill O'Reilly will join us at the top 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: of the next hour. 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: That is where we are headed. 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: But Buck, the biggest news that is out there in 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: the last hour, Zolensky has decided to ben the neeed 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump and beg for peace. Let me read 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of what he said. I would like 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: This is Zelenski's Twitter account. I would like to reiterate 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: Ukraine's commitment to peace. None of us wants in endless war. 27 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 1: peace more than the Ukrainians. My team and I stand 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: ready to work under President trump strong leadership to get 31 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: a piece that lasts. We value how much America has done. 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Our meeting in Washington at the White House on Friday 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: not go that way. It was supposed to be regrettable 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: that it happened this way. It's time to make things right. 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive. 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: Regarding the agreement on minerals and Security, Ukraine is ready 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: to sign it anytime and in any convenient format. We 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: see this agreement as a step toward greater security and 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: solid security guarantees, and I truly hope it will work effectively. 40 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: All Right, Friday, the blow up, Tuesday, the apology again, 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: that statement a little bit longer, Buck, What do you 42 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: think people should take from this situation that we are 43 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: currently in with Ukraine? 44 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: And where do we go from here? Well, Trump is 45 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: doing what he does, which is a non traditional approach 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: to try to solve problems. And I think that the 47 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: people who have at every step of the every step 48 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: of the way, questioned him on him, said he's crazy, 49 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: he said he's a dictator, are doing what they always do, 50 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: which is more of that. When you look at what 51 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: has already occurred, it does seem to be that Trump 52 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: is using the leverage that he should use on issues 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: that matter to get us to a better resolution. All 54 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: that really counts, and this is contra the diplomacy, State Department, 55 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: Foreign policy consensus mindset. All that really matters is the results, right, 56 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: All that really matters is when something happens in response 57 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: to a decision, an action and agreement that Trump has taken. 58 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: How we get there, I think is far less important. 59 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: And so, yes, was it a little bit of a 60 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: surprise to see that dust up in the Oval office? 61 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: Sure? 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: Do I think that Zelensky was the one who instigated it? Largely? Yes? 63 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: I do. And now are we back in a place 64 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: where Zelenski is saying all the things that we wanted 65 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: to hear from him the first time around? Yes? So 66 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: that to me indicates that Trump is on the right track. 67 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: I also think that this is forced out into public view, 68 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: that the people who just are all about the Ukrainian 69 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: fight and don't ever go beyond Ukraine is the good guy, 70 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Russia is the bad guy, are being forced to justify 71 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: in public, what exactly is your plan if this war 72 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: goes on for another five years? In what way is 73 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: Ukraine in a better position then than they are in now? 74 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Russia has more men, more material, more North Korean troops, 75 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: I might add, pouring in. Russia has allies who are 76 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 2: working directly in this fight, and we refuse to do that. 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: That is our redline. So how is Ukraine going to 78 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: be in a better position other than losing a lot 79 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: of our money and a lot of their men. They 80 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: don't have an answer to this. Trump knows that. So 81 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: we're trying to get to where we are with the 82 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: deal now, Clay, if the negotiations were to break down 83 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,119 Speaker 2: because what Putin wants is just so unthinkable, is so 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: beyond the pale, well at least we would know that, 85 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: right at least then we can have a conversation. Okay, 86 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: Putin really is being crazier than anticipated. On this, So 87 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: maybe he does need to suffer the consequences a little 88 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: bit more or whatever, But right now there's no reason 89 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: to believe that the option that the Ukraine hardliners want 90 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: to take is better. 91 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: Look where we are right now, and my wife has 92 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: been fired up about this, so she will not stop 93 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: talking about it. I do think that the United States 94 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: has created much of this mess, meaning the invasion, the 95 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: battles over territory, and all that's happening now is Trump 96 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: is trying to clean up the mess. Right You go 97 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: back to the agreement when Ukraine gave up their nukes, 98 00:05:53,360 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: there was some form of protection agreement entered into and 99 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: Ukraine took it as the United States won't let Russia invadas. 100 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: Obviously Obama did not take it that way. Biden did 101 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: not take it that way. Russia has for a long 102 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: time not wanted NATO on its border. We have continued 103 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: to expand NATO to Russia's border, and I think this 104 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: war is actually a result of much of the failure 105 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: of American policy, both as it pertains to Ukraine and 106 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: to Russia significantly, buck none of which Trump was involved 107 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: in remotely. So he is now in this mess where 108 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: he is trying to end up in a situation where 109 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: he's trying to put this all back right, and so 110 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: the United States is not blameless here. We want to 111 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: be saying, oh Slava Ukraine. Ukraine is the hero and 112 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: Russia is the villain. America is not coming to this 113 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: situation with clean hand. We have, in many ways created 114 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: I believe, a total mess, and now Trump is trying 115 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: to clean it up, and so I hope that we 116 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: can get a ceasefire here and that people can stop dying. 117 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: My concern, Buck is, now we're moving into okay, what 118 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: does the negotiated piece look like? What does a ceasefire 119 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: look like? It seems to me, and I'm curious if 120 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: you would agree with this that to a large extent, 121 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: wherever the lines are drawn now where the stellmate has 122 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: basically come to exist, it feels to me like Russia 123 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: is going to get a large percentage of those eastern 124 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: parts of Ukraine. Where exactly that line is drawn will 125 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: be a huge debate. And then I hope that Russia 126 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: doesn't decide to invade again. I don't think it will 127 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: happen with Trump in office. But my concern is if 128 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom or whomever the Andrew Cuomo. 129 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: If one of those guys or gals were to win 130 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight, I think Putin would go right 131 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: back to invading again, because I'm not sure he would 132 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: respect the Democrats, as he has shown he did not 133 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: respect Obama and as he has shown he did not 134 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: respect Biden. 135 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: Are There's some very fundamental questions here that I think 136 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: Trump sees properly, and one of them is do we 137 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: care enough? Do we as Americans care enough about who's 138 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: in control of twenty five percent or so fifteen twenty 139 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: percent of Ukraine that we're willing to lose American soldiers 140 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: and spend billions, perhaps even trillions of dollars, never mind 141 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 2: the possibility of a nuclear nuclear exchange, which is the euphemism, 142 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: of course we use for nuking each other's militaries in 143 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: the theater, which would be horrifying. Are we willing to 144 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: do those things? No, we're not, And so some level 145 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: this is all just I think a recognition that there's 146 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: going to be an ability that Russia has in its 147 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: sphere of influence here, or to expand its sphere of 148 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: influence here because it's not a NATO country, and because 149 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: we don't want to do their fighting for them, and 150 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: so there are limitations on what we're willing to do. 151 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: There are also limitations on the timeframe in which we're 152 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: willing to continue doing what we are already doing in 153 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: terms of the money and materil and training and everything 154 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: else that we have been giving them. This is a 155 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: messy situation. It's terrible how much life has been lost here. 156 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: You brought up Clay, and this is true. You go 157 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: back to the you know, the Maidan and Yanakovich and 158 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 2: the efforts to figure out who's going to be in 159 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: charge of Ukraine, stretching back now over a decade, the 160 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: West backing one side, Russia backing another. You know, we've 161 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: in playing with this as some kind of a proxy 162 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: territory for much longer than there have even been bullets 163 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: flying over there. So to get this thing to be 164 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: no longer a festering sore, but to be in a 165 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 2: position where there's an agreement going forward, you know, as 166 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: far as the Russians are concerned, look at the dismemberment 167 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: that the Soviet Union suffered into all these different countries 168 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: and all these breakaway republics. For them, the notion that 169 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: the map is now and forever going to remain the 170 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: map is laughable, clearly, and they very much feel that way, 171 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: and that's why they've been willing to go to this extent. 172 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: And you'll notice that no one even talks anymore about 173 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: how Putin's going to be overthrown or all this. People 174 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: said moronic stuff, and I mean US senators don't have 175 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: to name them, I could name them in the very 176 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: beginning of this conflict, delusional about how we'd be able 177 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: to defeat the Russian war machine in this theater without 178 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: actually engaging US military forces in the process. So we 179 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: just want this whole thing to end. I think there's 180 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: tremendous frustration with it. I think it also Clay comes 181 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 2: out of fighting in multiple decades long counterinsurgency g WATT 182 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: wars in the Mid East that what did we get? 183 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: What did we get in Afghanistan? Exactly? That's a really 184 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: tough one to answer. What did we get in Iraq? 185 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: Maybe even isn't it funny? Afghanistan was the good war. 186 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: We basically got nothing. We ended up killing Bin Laden 187 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: in Pakistan everybody, So you know, we didn't really get 188 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: very much for Afghanistan efforts, did we? And then you 189 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: look at Iraq and you know it's marginal right now, 190 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: that it's better now than it was under Saddam Hussein. 191 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 2: So there's there's been a lot of reason for us 192 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: to see what's gone on with the US foreign policy 193 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: and military interventions and say, have we learned the lesson Clay? 194 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's I think that's Trump's fundamental guiding 195 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: principle on this. Have we learned the lesson? Do you 196 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: think we have? I'm not sure that we have that 197 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: we haven't. Actually, I think that's a very good yes. 198 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: I think that. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people 199 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: still who think, oh, no, you don't understand we could 200 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: do this. And I don't know if they've just been 201 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: playing too much call of duty or I don't get it. 202 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: I don't know why they would think that this is 203 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: going to be something that we want to get deeper 204 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: and more involved in. I do not care who is 205 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: in charge of CRIMEA, meaning I do not care enough 206 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: that I want to sacrifice a single American or any 207 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: American interest for Crimea or don Bas or Lahansk and 208 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: Donetsk in these places I do not care. Now, that 209 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: doesn't mean I don't care about the suffering of the 210 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: people there. 211 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: I do. 212 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: But Clay, I care about the suffering the people in 213 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: South Sudan as well, which is going through yet another 214 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: mass genocide situation and slow motion. But we're not about 215 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: to land troops there either. 216 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: Here's do you agree with me on a positive side 217 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: if we can get a cease fire. I actually feel 218 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: like Vladimir Putin will not invade Ukraine further while Trump 219 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: is in office. Do you agree with that that he 220 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: respects Trump enough that he won't do it? 221 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 222 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: I do. I think that he recognizes that. You know Trump, 223 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: Trump is willing to upset the Apple card. You don't 224 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: want to tick him off. No one even thought Biden 225 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: was leading the country, So who cares, doesn't matter what 226 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: he says. So the concern is not necessarily the next 227 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: three years. It's again, well, you and I've been talking 228 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: about and I think it's something that everybody out there 229 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: needs to realize. You can believe that Trump is amazing 230 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: and doing phenomenal things than we do. Guys, four years 231 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: is not enough to fix a lot of what ails 232 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: the United States. We've got to stick and stack several 233 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: different wins together, one after the other. And that's why 234 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: I'm already kind of focused on what happens in twenty 235 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: six next year, and what happens in twenty eight, because 236 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: as enjoyable as every single day is with Trump in 237 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: office right now, it's a date certain when it comes 238 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: to a close, and a lot of our enemies out 239 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: there are going to be sitting around hoping that they 240 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: can get President Kamala Harris or President Gavin Newsom or 241 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: President Andrew Cuomo, whoever that Democrats are going to elevate 242 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: to run. We got to stack together a lot of 243 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: different wins because the problems we have are so substantial. 244 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: You just heard clet say it, And it's true. Trump 245 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: can't fix all of our problems. He's doing great stuff, 246 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: but there's a lot that is still going to be 247 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: very challenging over these next four years and are going 248 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: to be problems for years to come. The debt is 249 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: very high, maybe even top of that list. So what 250 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: can you do in the meantime? 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Is to 279 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: explain all the things we said. We need Uncle Bill 280 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: to tell America what's going on. So he'll be with 281 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: us in just a bit as well. Got some great 282 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: guest line up for you on the Trump Zelensky stuff. 283 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: Remember there were all these editorials, Oh, oh my gosh, 284 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: the hysteria of the weekend. Trump has destroyed diplomacy forever. 285 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: I don't know how. I don't know how it is 286 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: that their editorials, somehow all just get read in this 287 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: register of like the soprano, you know, like they just 288 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: they all sound like such shrieking girls when they freak 289 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: out about Trump. Whether it's the Washington Post, the New 290 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: York Times, anyway, here's Trump saying, because because Yesterday's Lenski 291 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: or I'm sorry, on Sunday's Alenski said this war is 292 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: gonna go on for a very very long time. Here's 293 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: what Trump said about that play thirteen. 294 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 5: President Zelensky supposedly made a saatement today an ap I'm 295 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 5: not a big fan of ap so maybe it was 296 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 5: an incorrect sabment, but he said he thinks the war's 297 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 5: gonna go on for a long time, and he better 298 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 5: not be right about that. 299 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. Yeah, that's a horrible thing that 300 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: because the only reason you'd want the war to continue 301 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: from a strategic standpoint would be if you think that 302 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: somehow you're going to be able to launch a counter 303 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 2: offensive to knock out the other side. Clay, there is 304 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 2: no realistic chance at all that Ukraine can do that 305 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: to Russia. So how does the continuation of the war help. 306 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: It doesn't. 307 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: And what is weird is Zelensky said that yesterday and 308 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: then he just read we read for you his statement 309 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: that he posted about an hour ago. There doesn't seem 310 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: to be any logical connection between the two and any 311 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: kind of reasonable spot right. I just I don't understand 312 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: how you can go from hey, we're going to fight 313 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: as long as we can now. Obviously, Trump also said 314 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: that he's going to restrict the future cell of arms 315 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: to Ukraine. Maybe that's the final point, or maybe behind 316 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: closed doors, all these European leaders are saying to Zelensky 317 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: something very different than what they're posting on social media 318 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: and that is Hey, it's time to get a ceasefire. 319 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, and we'll talk about this with 320 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: Senator John Thune. What does he expect from the addressed 321 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: tonight as well as the women sports bill that went 322 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: up in flames because of Democrat opposition. 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We'll get to that in a moment, 342 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: but Senator, appreciate you making the time. I wanted to 343 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: start with this. I still can't believe this is real. 344 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: Every single Democrat senator opposed a bill that would keep 345 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: men from competing in women's sports. That is, every Democrat 346 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: senator that voted were you can you believe this has 347 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: become a political issue. And given the fact that seventy 348 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: nine percent of Americans agree men should play men's sports 349 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: women should play women, including sixty seven percent of Democrats, 350 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: what in the world are Democrats thinking on this bill? 351 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: Right? Well, you get a good question, guys. I mean, 352 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 3: I just it's mind blowing to me that this has 353 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: become a political issue where the Democrats are so tethered 354 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: to their I guess transgender ideological political base that they're 355 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: willing to throw common sense out the window. I mean, 356 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: this is just to me, almost incomprehensible that we even 357 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: having this conversation. It's you know, having biological males as 358 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: the opponents of young women is both fundamentally unfair and 359 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 3: it's potentially dangerous, honestly, And so you know, Coach Tubberville, 360 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 3: Tommy Tuberville, the Senator from Alabama, led this on the floor. 361 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: We had a vote on it last night, and you 362 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 3: are correct. Every single Democrat to the person voted against it. 363 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: And it's an eighty twenty issue, as you point out, 364 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 3: with the American people. So I just I can't explain it. 365 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: I think they did there was no lesson learned from 366 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 3: the election. I think it's common sense issues like this 367 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: that the American people expect their leaders to act on, 368 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: and they just block voted against it. 369 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: What can you say, Senator Thun when they vote against it? Though? 370 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: Are they claiming publicly? I'm just wondering because this has 371 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: just happened, and it's hard to believe that they just 372 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: did this for a lot of us. But I guess 373 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 2: if you've been paying attention to Democrats, insanity is not 374 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 2: new to them. But are they saying there's some problem 375 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: in the text of the bill or some procedural or 376 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: are they openly just saying we think dudes should be 377 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: able to play against ladies and that's the way it 378 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: should be. 379 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's really honestly the suctions 380 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: of it. You know, you could say that the bill 381 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: could be changed this here, that way, but it's really 382 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: very straightforward. And you know, I mean, and there was 383 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: a day when Democrats would have been, you know, quick 384 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: to defend Title nine. And here we are. But you know, 385 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: I mean, this is again I mentioned this on the 386 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: floor esday, but I had a business professor and graduate 387 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 3: school who used to say, some things are just intuitively obvious, 388 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: and I think this is one of those things that's 389 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: intuitively obvious to people. And you know, something obviously feel 390 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: strongly about. I'm as a father of two women who 391 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: played sports, and you know, one of whom is in 392 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: our high school in college hall of Fame. I just 393 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 3: I can't imagine a world where you would have guys 394 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: competing against women and taking away opportunities not only to 395 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: excel in their in their field and their sport, but 396 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: also for college scholarships and things that this has serious 397 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: downstream consequences. But the Democrats on a substance level, on 398 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: a political level, seem to have made a decision that 399 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 3: they would rather defend again in ideology that is completely 400 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: out of step with the American people. 401 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: We're talking to. 402 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: Senator John Thune, explain to us, because I'm curious myself. 403 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why a majority of Senators voting for this, 404 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: which Republicans have and which marshalled itself last night, is 405 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: not enough to make this a law. The House passed 406 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: it only two I believe Democrats voted for it in 407 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: the House. By the way, zero senators in the it 408 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: voted for this on the Democrats side, But you needed 409 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: to get to sixty. Why explain that for our audience. 410 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's hard. It's an inside baseball thing here. 411 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: It's unique to the United States Senate. But under our 412 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: rules in the Senate, and this is kind of the 413 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: system that the founders standed us, it takes a super 414 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: majority to do almost anything consequential. And this is so 415 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: sixty votes in the Senate is required to move legislation 416 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: with very few exceptions. And one of the things you're 417 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 3: working on right now you've probably heard your listeners have 418 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: probably heard too, the President talk about budget reconciliation when 419 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 3: you have unified control of the government. In other words, 420 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: the House, the Senate and the White House. There are 421 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 3: things you can do with fifty one votes in the 422 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: Senate that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do through 423 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: a procedure that is again unique to the Senate, but 424 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: on most issues, and this is an issue where you know, 425 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: again it's a bill that we put in front of 426 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: the Senate, and this, honestly, this was just a motion 427 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 3: to proceed to the bill. This wasn't even this was 428 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 3: just to get on it, just to debate it. They 429 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 3: voted against even having a debate about it. And that 430 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: takes sixty as well. So it's a sixty voo threshold. 431 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: And I know that for most Americans. Everybody's like, well, 432 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 3: isn't fifty one a majority? And the Senate the answer 433 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: is yes. But the rules of the Senate and the 434 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: history and the heritage of the Senate as such that 435 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: it requires a supermajority on most legislation. 436 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: So what can you hopefully get done through that reconciliation process? 437 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: As some of the top agenda items, we've seen this 438 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: slew of executive orders coming out from Trump, a lot 439 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: of them we've been talking about here in the show. 440 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: We think they're doing great things of course, we all 441 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: also know that executive orders can be overturned by the 442 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: next administration if in fact it's a Democrat. So legislation matters, 443 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: and we don't have a super majority. So Senator Thun, 444 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: you're the majority leader. What are some of the top 445 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: things you're hoping can get through the Senate, the House 446 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: and get signed by the President using that reconciliation process. 447 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: It's a long list, and we are going to do 448 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: everything we can and push the limits of what's allowable. 449 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: You know, there are limitations on how it can be used, 450 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: but the Democrats expanded the scope of reconciliation. They passed 451 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: two major major you know, the three trillion dollars worth 452 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: of new spending in two reconciliation bills, when they had 453 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: unified control of the government, when they had House, Senate, 454 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: White House. So they've given us a template for how 455 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 3: to do it. Obviously, we have a very different agenda 456 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 3: than what they wanted to do, but we're united. We 457 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: want to enact all the President Trump's priorities as quickly 458 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: as possible, and that deals with the border, securing the borders, 459 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: it's bolstering our national defense, it's restoring American energy, dominance 460 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: and preventing a four trillion dollar tax increase at the 461 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: end of the year on the American people. So you know, 462 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: we believe, and say Senate Republicans believe, and I think 463 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: the President does too. And hopefully the House will get 464 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: there to make these tax cuts permanent so we don't 465 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: have to go back and deal with it again down 466 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: the road. But we're here in the Senate ready to 467 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: enact as much as the present's agenda as we can 468 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: true budget reconciliation and that entails all the things I 469 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: just mentioned, and I hope that as we work through 470 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: this process, we will be as aggressive as we possibly 471 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 3: can to use that opportunity at a fifty one vote 472 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: threshold in the Senate as opposed to sixty to get 473 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: as much of the president's agenda done as possible. 474 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: What's the timeframe to get that done. We've heard a 475 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: variety of different aspects out there. I heard early, Hey, 476 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: we hope to get this done by Easter. When do 477 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: you think these bills in particular are dealing with tax 478 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: cuts and the budget will be complete. As you look 479 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: at the calendar. 480 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: I think it's Easter is probably ambitious, I would say, 481 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: but I think that as we look at the kind 482 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 3: of the May time frame. Obviously we got a deadline 483 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: week after next March fourteenth. We've got to deal with 484 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: all the craft the Democrats left us, all the pile 485 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: up of spending. They didn't do any spending bills last year, 486 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: and so we're up against this deadline, and we got 487 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: to fund the governmentunder the government shuts. So that's the 488 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 3: immediate concern. But then the reconciliation bill starts with a 489 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: budget resolution. Both the House and Senate have to pass 490 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: the same one. And right now we've passed budget resolutions, 491 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: but they're different. But we'll have to we'll align those 492 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: and then we will both act on it, and then 493 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: that creates that unlocks reconciliation. The reconciliation is another separate, 494 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: big piece of legislation, and so it's really kind of 495 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: a two step process and it takes some time. And 496 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: these are complicated issues. I mean, the President wants some 497 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 3: things done in tax policy. We got a lot of 498 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: Senators and House members who want to see things done 499 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: in tax policy that are different than what's in front 500 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: of us in terms of just you know, a strict 501 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: extension of the of the current bill, or the current 502 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: tax policy. But there are all these things as we 503 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: move through and these moving parts, and ultimately I tell 504 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: people when they ask me, can you do this? Can 505 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: you do that? Then in the end, it really comes 506 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: down to the two numbers that matter, two eighteen and 507 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: fifty one. You got to have two eighteen in the House. 508 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: You got to have a simple majority there, and even 509 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: under reconciliation, you still have to have fifty one vote 510 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: to the Senate. So that's the math of it, and 511 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: as we think through what we can do and can't do, 512 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: it's a function of trying to figure out how do 513 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 3: we get this thing in a shape and whatever this 514 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: bill looks like that it can secure the necessary two 515 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen in the House and fifty one Senate. 516 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: We're talking to set a majority. Leader John Thune, what 517 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: do you expect tonight? Let's shift gears to Trump's address tonight. 518 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: What do you expect to hear from the president? What 519 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: should our listeners expect to hear? And what sort of 520 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: reception do you expect to see from Democrats? I was 521 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: reading this morning that they're planning all sorts, potentially of 522 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: outrageous and outlandish disruptions during the midst of this speech, potentially, 523 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: what do you expect, Yeah, I mean, I. 524 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: Think they will. The Democrats are I mean, they're still 525 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 3: in the stages of grief and they're really idle. They're 526 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: trying to find a message. They're trying to get some 527 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: traction with something, and so far all it is is 528 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: whatever he's I'm going to be against. I think that 529 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: the you know, Democrats right now are afflicted with a 530 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: really really bad case of Trump derangement syndrome. And so 531 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: my assumption is that when they come tonight, they're going 532 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: to try and be disruptive. And but you know, at 533 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: the end of the day, I think American people that's 534 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 3: not what they want to see. I don't think they 535 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: want to see a bunch of lefty ideologues who can't 536 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: even bring themselves to vote to keep boys out of girls' sports, 537 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: you know, creating a ruckus and disruptive to the President 538 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: of the United States, who I think will be there 539 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: to talk about after four years of you know, rising 540 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: costs laws at the southern border, weakening of America on 541 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: the world stage, and be talking about turning the page 542 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: and get our country back on track. And I think 543 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: it's a the President has a great opportunity to present 544 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 3: to the American people how things are going to be 545 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: in his second term and what his priorities are relative 546 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: to the last four years under Biden. And you can 547 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: just look already at what they've done at the southern border, 548 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the top issue in the last election, and 549 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: this administration has been returning ordered a short amount of time. 550 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: Think about the month of February. There were a few 551 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: of the nine thousand crossings at the southern border under Trump. 552 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: That was a typical day under under Biden. I mean, 553 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: this is this is how dramatically things have changed already 554 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: as a result of President Trump's leadership. And we want 555 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: to be good partners for him and do as much 556 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: as we can to get his agenda across the finish line, 557 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: which is why we worked really hard to get his 558 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: cabinet confirmed as quickly as possible. 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So that's 609 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit of an interesting one. We 610 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: should talk tariffs here. We'll talk to Bill O'Reilly about 611 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: that coming up momentarily. Oh, don't forget ten percent of 612 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: our profits a tunnel the Towers Foundation. Tons some of 613 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: our profits. That crock of coffee goes to Tunnel the 614 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: Towers Foundation. So it is the best coffee you will 615 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: find absolutely anywhere. Clay, maybe we should get to a 616 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: little bit later. I know we don't have the audio 617 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: right now, but I did think, because you and I 618 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: were just discussing this, the cultural shift is somewhat apparent 619 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: here in a few ways. And I mean that in 620 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: terms of the pop culture shift. There's a show White Lotus, 621 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: which I think some of you see, very few of 622 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: you probably overall watch It's on HBO. What percentage of 623 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: our audience do you think has watched season one, season two, 624 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: or season three of White Lotus? Oh, ten percent or less, 625 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: I would think probably, I think that's I think that's accurate. 626 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: Actually hit me and buck on social I would be 627 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: curious if you have watched this, because I do think 628 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: what you're out to say is emblematic of how things 629 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: have changed pretty substantially. So there are three women. The 630 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: concept of the show is pretty straightforward. Super luxury resort 631 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 2: and then stuff happens. Right if you're a super luxury resort, 632 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: a murder is gonna happen. 633 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: You don't know who's gonna get killed at the super 634 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: luxury resort, basically something like yeah, like there's gonna be 635 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: some extreme events that occur, and you get to know 636 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: these different couples who are in the resorts, and they 637 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: they do a good job like they the characters are interesting, 638 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: and I think it's a pretty well written show. 639 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: Kerry likes that. I like it, so, thank Heavens, we 640 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: can actually agree that it's a good show. But they 641 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: had a Trump moment on it, and I've seen so 642 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 2: many like one of the reasons I thought the movie 643 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: Midnight in Paris was pretty entertaining, except the guy who 644 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: was always taking shots. If you remember this, the Woody 645 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: Allen movie. Every time I just bring up Trump, and 646 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: it was yeah. But every time the guy would bring 647 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: up Trump, it was he would get you know, it 648 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: was made. It was meant to make him look like 649 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: an imbecile. You know, he's like, well, I I think 650 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trumpell. This is back in twenty sixteen, so this 651 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: is very early. Anyway. I think that I don't know, 652 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: it wasn't Trump, it was Remember it's just Republicans. I 653 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: think it was just the Republican Party. I can't remember 654 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: how old that movie is now. The point is they 655 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: introduce among these three, you know, wealthy women who are 656 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: all lifelong friends, who were in their probably forties, fifties, 657 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: late forties, I would say. And so they introduce all 658 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: these people and then one of them, it comes out, 659 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: is probably a Trump voter, and she is not an 660 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: object of ridicule on the show. In fact, I would 661 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: argue that the liberal from New York and the liberal 662 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: from Los Angeles on the show are made to look 663 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: a little like they're being kind of Judgie and a 664 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: little little quick on the quick on the trigger on 665 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 2: this issue. You what do you make of it? Because 666 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 2: this HBO, which is a very left wing channel, they 667 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: were not I have not seen them do mockery of 668 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: the Trump voter in this situation in that scene. We 669 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 2: need to get the audio to play for you, guys, 670 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 2: because I was actually impressed. And again the general consensus 671 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: is none of these people are great. You see these characters, 672 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 2: warts and all. 673 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: But I thought the way it was being characterized, the 674 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: New York and the LA women were actually coming off 675 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: worse than the lady from Texas who had voted for 676 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: Trump and simply said that she was an independent and 677 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: sort of shocked her friends from LA and New York 678 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: in the process. And I bet there are a bunch 679 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: of you men and women out there that voted Trump 680 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four and you've had conversations just like 681 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: the one that HBO had on Sunday. I want to 682 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: play for that for you guys, because I do think 683 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: it's emblematic of a culture shift.