1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor production of iHeartRadio. I'm any 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Reco and I'm. 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: Learned vocal bumb and today we have an episode for 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: you about Thousand Island dressing. 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yep, m hm. 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Was there any particular reason this was on your mind, Lauren? 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: I don't think there was. I I think I was 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: maybe it was on our list, or maybe I was 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: just sort of browsing aimlessly mm hmm, as we do 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: through lists of food stuffs and uh, and came across 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, this story is weird, or the 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: number of stories about it is weird. All of the 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: stories by themselves are pretty you know, pretty average in 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: terms of weirdness. 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have to say I had to 16 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: have a real like, let me sit with this for 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: a minute, because originally I was like, no, hate Thousand Islands. Yeah, 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: but then it's like, I think you're thinking of Ranch. Oh, 19 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: and I'm actually not sure I have a clear I'm 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: sure I've had it, but I'm not sure I have 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: a clear association taste with Thousand Island. And I've already 22 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: waited it because of my dislike of Ranch and Mayo. 23 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: So I think I might be cool with it. 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it because I had a whole 25 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: thing and here that I deleted. 26 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: I was like, wait, I'm not sure. 27 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely dissimilar from ranch in that Ranch tends 28 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: to be white in color and Thousand Island tends to 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: be pink to orange in color. So like visually pretty 30 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: immediately identifiable as not Ranch. 31 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: Right, But I feel like, also, I know I've told 32 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: this story before, but for me, Red Lobster was a 33 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: fancy blazer, you wit, and when they would give you 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: the salad before your meal, you had two options, and 35 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: it was vinaigrette, which I always got, and then I 36 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: believe the other one was Thousand Islands, but I always 37 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: thought it was ranch for some reason, so they've just 38 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: become really conflated in my brain. But I always went 39 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: for the vineagrettes, and my brothers and Dad, I always 40 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: went for the ranch slash thousand Island, which I also 41 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: thought had an S at the end of it. So 42 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: if I make that mistake, I apologize. I thought it 43 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: was a thousand Islands. 44 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: Well, the name of the island chain is thousand Islands, 45 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: the name of the dressing is singular. 46 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: Trying to confuse me, trip me up, and they certainly did. 47 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: I had to go back in and check it several times. 48 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Do you have any love for the thousand times? 49 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: You know? I don't think I've ever had it on 50 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: a salad. I think I've only ever had it as 51 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: a sandwich topping. I am pretty familiar with a with 52 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: a ruben pretty familiar or not like yeah, like like 53 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: a as like a burger topping. 54 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which we'll touch on very briefly. But I didn't. 55 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was such a big sandwich tapping. Well, 56 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: past episodes you can see Ranch. It's their good friend 57 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: Ben Bolan who came out very strongly against Ranch. Yeah, Mayo, 58 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: in which I came out very strongly against Mayo, Ketchup Worcester, Sure, Sauce, 59 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Iceberg Lettuce. 60 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: We have done an episode on Ceason, right, Caesar salad? 61 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: I think so, yeah, I believe we have. 62 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: I think we have. I'm going to go with we have, 63 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: and that's just how it is. 64 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: Well, there's no way of finding out. 65 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: So I feel like I remember pretty clearly talking about 66 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: the difference between Caesar salad that I probably added red 67 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: lobster and caesar salad. 68 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: That like good caesar salad. 69 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Well, that sounds bad, like a nice the dressing when 70 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: it's like fresh. Yeah, yeah, all right, I'm digging myself 71 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: in a hole. Let's talk about thousand Island. This brings 72 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: us to our question. 73 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yes, definitely, yeah yeah, come away, come away 74 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: from the hole, Annie. 75 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: Yes, thousand Island dressing? What is it? 76 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: Well, a thousand Island dressing is a type of condiment 77 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: that can be made a number of ways, but you're 78 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: typically looking at a base of mayonnaise flavored with tomato, 79 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: ketchup and worstershyre sauce, and given a little bit of 80 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: a pop with some fine chopped pickles. This will create 81 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: this like thick, creamy, tangy, lightly sweet, slightly salty, and 82 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: funky condiment with a little bit of textural interest in 83 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: a kind of pinkish orange color. You can add a 84 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: lot of other flavorings and mixins to make it tangier 85 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: or sweeter, or spicy or kind of pike to taste. 86 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: It served chilled as a dressing for fresh leafy salads, 87 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: particularly with crunchy iceberg lettuce. It's also used as a 88 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: topping on usually hot sandwiches and then as a dip 89 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: for like French fries or whatever else you like dipping. 90 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: It's sort of fun because it has these contrasting flavors 91 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: and textures built in. But it's also fairly gentle, like 92 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: it's just nice. It adds a little something. Eating it 93 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: is like is like going to a playground with no 94 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: sharp corners, like and that good like rubbery ground cover, 95 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: you know, like like not like the playgrounds that we 96 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: grew up with, but this one wants you to have 97 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: like a nice time. 98 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: Ah, that is true. I have some playground memori where 99 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not sure how that. 100 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: Flew, and and nothing but wood chips that you could 101 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: get the best splinters on. Yeah, as far as the 102 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: eye could see. Oh dear, okay a thousand island. Let's 103 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: break down those ingredients a little bit. So. Mayo is 104 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: a creamy condiment that's made without cream by emulsifying egg 105 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: yolk and oil with some kind of acid, usually vinegar 106 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: or lemon juice, so it's thick and creamy and a 107 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: little bit tangy. You could sub in other similar dressing 108 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: bases if you wanted to. Ketchup is a smooth, seasoned 109 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: like cooked down tomato pure that brings more tang and 110 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: some sweetness and saltiness. Worcester share is savory, salty, fermented 111 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: liquid sauce traditionally made with fish and spices. Pickles in 112 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: this case meaning pickled Cucumbers, of course, come in like 113 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: a lot of flavor, range from tart to sweet. People 114 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: use whatever their preferences, and when they're chopped fine and 115 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: distributed throughout the dressing, it's sort of like the bubbles 116 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: and bubble tea, almost just like a tiny little pop 117 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: crunch of flavor. But as I said, that is just 118 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: the beginning. The pickle element is in fact often pickle relish, 119 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: which is a prepared condiment of chopped pickles, often mixed 120 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: with other chopped vegs like sweet or spicy peppers or onions. 121 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: Other mixin's include those things on their own, or fine 122 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: chopped hard boiled egg, olive, nuts, garlic, or fresh herbs. 123 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: You can add tomato paste or even tomato soup concentrate, 124 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: either instead of or in addition to the ketchup. You 125 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: can spice it up a bit with some hot sauce 126 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: or chili sauce, or mustard or black pepper. You can 127 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 2: give it more tang with a squeeze of whatever fresh 128 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: citrus you like or your preferred vinegar. You can season 129 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: it with paprika, which also adds a little bit more 130 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: red orange color in there. Yeah, or celery seed, or 131 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: sweeten it with sugar. I've also seen recipes that argue 132 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: that ketchup does not belong in it at all, or 133 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: that chili sauce is necessary, or like any number of 134 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: other variations. People have opinions about this one. We love opinions. 135 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: Yes and yeah. Here in the States, it is really 136 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: common as a sauce on like heavier, usually beef based sandwiches, burgers, reubens, 137 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: patty melts, salty meaty things like that. Yeah, to provide 138 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: a popa flavor and a creamy barrier between the bread 139 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: and any juicy ingredients to keep the bread from going soggy. Yeah. 140 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: A lot of fast food joints like McDonald's and In 141 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: and Out include it on their sort of fancier than 142 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: standard burgers. 143 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 3: Usually. 144 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: Yes, it is the special sauce on a big Mac. 145 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: It can be considered a little bit old fashioned, but 146 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: in like a classic, dependable sort of way. I think 147 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: it's definitely offered as a salad dressing in like traditional 148 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: American restaurants like steakhouses and family diners and buffets. People 149 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: love it on a heck and wedge salad, y'all, and 150 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 2: it is also used in cold chopped salads like coal 151 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: slat or potato or pasta salads sometimes. Yeah, there are 152 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: several brands of dressings that offer shelf stable variants, but 153 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: it's also made at home. I understand it's also available 154 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: commercially in other parts of the world, where it sometimes 155 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: goes by other names. If this sounds familiar and it's 156 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: a little bit more than like fry sauce, I know 157 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: that fry sauce is a thing, but this is like 158 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: fry sauce with stuff, So yeah, y'all have to let 159 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: us know. It is also very similar to some other 160 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: American salad dressings, like so called Russian dressing, which tends 161 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: to be spicier with ingredients like horse radish, and French dressing, 162 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: which usually doesn't call for mayo and is only sometimes creamy. 163 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: Yea. 164 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: Neither, by the way, have any particular ties to Russia 165 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: or to France, but of course. 166 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: Of course not. Well, what about the nutrition. 167 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: Really depends on how it's made. It can be colorically 168 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: dense if it's got a bunch of oil and sugar 169 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: in it. You know, like watch your portion sizes. Eat 170 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: a vegetable. If that vegetable is a wedge salad that 171 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: you've poured Thousand Island dressing over, then you're you're you're 172 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: on your way. You're doing a good job. 173 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: You're on your way. It does. It does remind me 174 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 3: of sort of the like. 175 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: Those party platters you get and it's got like raw 176 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: broccoli and cauliflower and all that stuff, and then it's 177 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: ranch dressing. 178 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like the only way we can eat 179 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: these things. 180 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: Tricking us with right, Yeah, yes, Well, we do have 181 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: some numbers for you. 182 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: We've got We've got a couple, all right. So I've 183 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: seen Thousand Island Dressing listed as like either the fourth 184 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: or fifth most popular salad dressing in the US. Yeah. Yeah, 185 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: And this dressing is named for an archipelago chain of 186 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: islands on the Saint Lawrence River, which is what connects 187 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: North America's Great Lakes in between the US and Canada 188 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: with the Atlantic Ocean to the east. These islands are 189 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: pretty far inland, and there are officially one eight hundred 190 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: and sixty four of them along a stretch of about 191 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 2: fifty miles of river. That's about eighty kilometers. And if 192 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: you're wondering what counts, the thousand islands include any bit 193 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: of land that in this area that peaks up above 194 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: the water line all year round and is home to 195 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: at least one living tree. Wow specific yeah, okay, yeah, wow. 196 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: We do have quite a complicated and messy history for you. 197 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: We do, and we are going to get into that 198 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: as soon as we get back from a quick break 199 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: for a word from our sponsors, and we're back. 200 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsoring, Yes, thank you. Okay, yes, So, Lauren 201 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: mourned me when suggesting this topic. It's a lot of 202 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: stories behind thousand dial in dressing, okay, But there are 203 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: two main theories about the origins, and we're gonna go 204 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: into some of the other theories as well. You're just 205 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: gonna get a little sampling of all these theories, a 206 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: little little smatter, yeah, a little smatter that you might 207 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: duck into some. 208 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: So. 209 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: And also I'm like begging listeners to write in about 210 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: any of this. But the story you'll get if you 211 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: go on a boat tour of this island chain which 212 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: is between New York and Canada known as a Thousand 213 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: Islands is that the namesake dressing was once a very 214 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: bougie item. 215 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: It was like for the rich. 216 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: This story goes that sometime in the early nineteen hundreds, 217 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: while visiting their summer palace slash home but kind of 218 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: a palace, kind of a balance, kind of a palace 219 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: located on one of these islands, Bolt Castle, George Bolt, 220 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: who was the owner of the Waldorf Astoria, and his 221 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: wife Louise, were out on a leisurely yacht ride. When 222 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: time for lunch arrived, the chef at the Bolt Castle, 223 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: Oscar Sheercree, realized he'd forgotten the dressing for the salad. Yes, 224 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: so he looked at the ingredients that he did have 225 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: and he set to work whipping up something that was 226 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: composed of Mayo ketchup, Worcester sauce and a hard boiled egg, 227 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: and there you go, Thousand Island dressing is born. There 228 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: are a lot of variations just on this particular story. 229 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah. And it's actually really fascinating 230 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: And it was one of those things where I had 231 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: to keep reminding myself we are at food show. But 232 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: according to some sources, the Bolts loved the dressing so 233 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: much that they were the ones that gave it the 234 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: name because they loved the Thousand Islands so much that 235 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: they named the dressing after it. And over the years 236 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: they served it at many gatherings, and the chef that 237 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: created it became a chef at the Waldorf Astoria, where 238 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: it was popularized. And yeah, you can still see this castle, 239 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: by the way. It's still a popular tourist destination. According 240 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: to legend, George was head over heels in love with 241 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: the Wiz and commissioned this castle on a heartshaped island. 242 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: I believe they made it into a heart shaped island, yes, 243 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: and there was supposed to be many hearts that would 244 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: be placed throughout. However, she allegedly died before she ever 245 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: saw it finished, and George refused to ever step foot 246 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: on the island again. So in that version of the story, 247 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: they were visiting like the construction site when this happened. 248 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: Yes again, listeners, if you've ever been, please write. 249 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: In yeah, yeah, it sounds from the descriptions I've read, 250 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: it sounds lot like oh heck, the what's the big 251 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: Manor house in Asheville outside of Ashevillemore the Beltmore. It 252 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: sounds to me a lot like the Beltmore in terms 253 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: of just like the era when it was constructed and 254 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: the era of construction that it was based on being 255 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: centuries apart, right, and just like like like rich people 256 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: being like, you know what, I deserve a castle, Let 257 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: me build one right here. 258 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 259 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: Yes, And this this area was a very popular place 260 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: for rich people to go vacation or build homes during 261 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: this time. And they still a lot of those islands 262 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: are owned by families that purchased them up around this time. 263 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: From what I understand, so sounds nice. 264 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: I'd like to visit myself one day. 265 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: However, though some dispute this tale is more of a 266 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: fun tourism story as opposed to like the actual truth. 267 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: One big dissenter is a fishing guide from the area 268 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: named Alan Bennett. I couldn't find the pronunciation of the name, 269 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: so I hope that's close. He claims to have found 270 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: the original recipe four thousand Island in the Herald Hotel, 271 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: which he purchased in nineteen seventy two. In the Harald Hotel, 272 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: which was later renamed the Thousand Islands Inn Hotel, is 273 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: a restaurant and inn located in the small tourist town 274 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: of Clayton, New York. According to Bennis, he found a 275 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: recipe in a safe. It was a single sheet of 276 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: paper for Sophia's sauce. Sophia and her husband, George Lalande 277 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: used to own the End towards the end of the 278 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, so Vennis. He showed the cooks the recipe 279 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: and they were like, yeah, that's Thousand Island essentially in 280 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: Venice's version of the story, which I couldn't really verify, 281 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: it sounded to me like this is just what he 282 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: thought but didn't necessarily have stuff to back it up. 283 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: Sophia would make this dressing for her husband to dip 284 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: fish in, who would share it with local fishermen. At 285 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: one point, he shared it with actress may Erwin, who 286 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: vacationed in the area and would go on George's fishing 287 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: trips with him. And Erwin loved it and convinced them 288 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: to give her the recipe, and she in turn shared 289 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: the recipe with the Bolts. 290 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: Huh. 291 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: Yes, also again, we're a food show. But I got 292 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: really into reading about her life. Very interesting. 293 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like like like vaudeville star and early film stars. 294 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 2: So super interesting. 295 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Bennis started bottling Sophia's dressing and sells it 296 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: at local stores. One thing that really tickled me about 297 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: this though, as according to the most recent owner, only 298 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: three people have seen I believe three or four people 299 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: have seen the actual piece of paper, but. 300 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: You can see it online. I don't know. It just 301 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: kind of cracked me up. 302 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So others suspect both of these stories could have 303 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: elements of truth and may have happened separately and simultaneously. Ish, 304 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: especially because at the time, with the advent of refrigerated 305 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: train cars, America was really going all in on salads 306 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: and that entailed experimenting with a lot of dressings. And 307 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: mayo was a popular ingredient for this because it covered 308 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: the bitter flavors of some varieties of greens, especially in 309 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: the New York area in this case, and at the time, 310 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: it was still difficult to get fresh greens, so salads 311 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: were associated with the rich. 312 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah of Russian and French dressings also came about during 313 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: this period. 314 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: Yes, in one alternate version of the Sofia story, the 315 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: the Lawns were not owners of the inn. But Sofia 316 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: shared it with the owners at the time, the Bertrand family, 317 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: who then passed it on to May Irwin. The letter 318 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: that contains the original recipe was from Sofia to the groundskeeper. 319 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: Of the inn. 320 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: It sounds like a lot of people wanted it is 321 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: what I'm getting sure? Yeah? 322 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: Yes. 323 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: Irwin's letter meanwhile, of the recipe that documents this recipee 324 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: is in the Thousand Islands Museum and specifies that it 325 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: was served at Bolt Castle and also this hotel. 326 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: Yes okay. As we mentioned, though. 327 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: These are not the only theories the contenders at all. 328 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: No birds. Another local story tells of this French chef 329 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: who wound up working for Bolt, contributing a recipe for 330 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: this lemon orange onion vinegarette with olives and Worcester shear 331 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: sauce in it to Sheercree's kitchen, and then Sheercree taking 332 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: the name that this French guy had come up with 333 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: for the dressing Thousand Island Dressing, and eventually applied that 334 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: name to his own Mayo Ketchup dressing. 335 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 3: Uh huh. Well. 336 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: Another theory comes out of the Blackstone Hotel in Chicago, 337 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: where chef Theo Rooms claimed he invented Thousand Island Dressing 338 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: for the nineteen ten grand opening of that hotel. In 339 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty five, Rooms was given an award for this creation, 340 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: an award that is now housed in the Chicago Culinary Museum. 341 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: And in nineteen fifteen, a newspaper published a recipe for 342 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: what they called Blackstone dressing. 343 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: Another Chicago theory involves the head chef of the Drake Hotel, 344 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: and this story goes that this chef's wife came up 345 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: with the name for the dressing because the chopped bits 346 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 2: in it reminded her of the Thousand Islands. Oh yeah, 347 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: there was a whole PBS documentary that came out in 348 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: twenty twelve that set out to solve the mystery of 349 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: the true origin story. They sway towards the Sophia story. 350 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: But you know, I love that. I love that. 351 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, however it came about it, it was pretty popular 352 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: in the early nineteen hundreds on recipes for what we 353 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: would recognize today as Thousand Island dressing. We're appearing in 354 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: print as early as nineteen twelve in newspapers from Dallas, 355 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: Texas and Kansas City, Missouri. So other side of the country. 356 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: Kind of but yeah, fascinating. Yeah, and it began showing 357 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: up in cookbooks by about nineteen sixteen. Yeah, and still 358 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: popular today. 359 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: Here in America. As you said, often in sandwiches. And 360 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: if you're curious about how riffs one thousand Island ended 361 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: up on so many fast food sandwiches, it's a future episode. 362 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to like go over some of the hits, 363 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: but I was like, no, I can't, I can't do this, 364 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: So future episode. But the short answer is that many 365 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: people think it is. I think it is in thanks 366 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: to the popularity of the ruben, which typically features either 367 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: a Thousand Island dressing or Russian dressing. And so it 368 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: was like, oh, it were on a sandwich, which over 369 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: the sandwich is we add it to Yeah? Sure, sure, 370 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: And it sounds like it just lends itself to it. 371 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: It does. 372 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's a little bit, a little 373 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: bit more flavorful than straight mayo and still gives you 374 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: a nice lipid barrier, you know, between juicy ingredients on 375 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: the sandwich and the bread. So yeah, yeah, makes sense, 376 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: makes sense. 377 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: Well again, listeners, if you have been to any of 378 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: these museums, these places. 379 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: If yeah, and if and if any of y'all listeners 380 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 2: from other parts of the world or who have traveled, 381 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: if you have seen this dressing other places, I would 382 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: love to know what other parts of the world think 383 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: about it. It seems very American to me. It seems 384 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: like very heck and American. 385 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: But you know. 386 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: Everyone, everyone likes a creamy dip, right, Yes, oh yes, 387 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: I remember many a freak's experience when I was in Brussels, 388 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: and it's just like twenty four sauces I can dip 389 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: my fries into and plenty of them were creamy. Yes, 390 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: oh so good. Well, yeah, that is what we have 391 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: to say about one thousand island dressing for now. 392 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: Yep. We do already have some listener mail for you, though, 393 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: and we are going to get into that as soon 394 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: as we get back from one more quick break for 395 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: a word from our sponsors. 396 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: And we're back. 397 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and we're back with listeners. 398 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, island tour. 399 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah right, A. 400 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: Nice, A nice salad you're out on like these islands. 401 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 3: Nothing a breeze going, Yeah, come on. 402 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: Good crisp salad. It sounds lovely. It does sound lovely. 403 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of we have gotten some really amazing emails carrot Cake. 404 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm so happy about this. This is only a taste 405 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: more to come, but we have two for you today. 406 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: Both include pictures. 407 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: Barbie wrote, I just listened to the carrot Cake episode 408 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: and your references to carrot cake being old fashioned. My 409 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: husband and I had carrot cake for our wedding in 410 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: January nineteen eighty nine. It was his favorite flavor and 411 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: the cake was delicious. The bride and groom on top 412 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: were penguin candles. It's a priceless memory. Thank you for 413 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: reminding me. I have attached photos and the cake is beautiful. 414 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: It is glorious. Oh yeah, it's like it looks like 415 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: ice themed, like snow and ice, and it's like teared 416 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: and there's some very adorable penguins on top. 417 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, just just little, just little, just little round 418 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: buddies just being just being round. Love them, love. 419 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: Them so adorable. 420 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, really cute. 421 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you for sure you. 422 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: Yes. Evan wrote, I just listened to the carrot Cake 423 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: episode and felt the need to share a pic of 424 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: the carrot cake my partner made me for my birthday 425 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: last year, decorated with real candied rainbow carrots, they were 426 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: beautiful and delicious, a bit sweet to eat them all, 427 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: but we'll workshop them for this year. Real carrots can 428 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: be used to decorate. Also, a carrot cake with butter 429 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: cream or any frosting other than cream cheese is objectively wrong. 430 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: I've added a pick of our dog, Archer with his 431 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: favorite after dinner snack, because I'll take any chance to 432 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: show him off. He was effing stoked. His face says, 433 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: take the picture already so I can get paid. 434 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I love it. 435 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: So this is in reference to we were talking about 436 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: how carrot cake is usually one of the few desserts 437 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: that has a image of carrots on it to denote 438 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: the carrotyes. 439 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, so you don't. 440 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: Normally it's harder to put like real carrots as opposed 441 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: to like strawberries, yeah, on a cake. 442 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: Or like chocolate shavings or something. 443 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a beautiful You're just 444 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: you're just an awe over there. 445 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. So what's going on with this cake is that 446 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: there are little little kind of like rosettes made out 447 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: of like like long strings of carrot, you know, like 448 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: like a like a I'm assuming that what happens, and 449 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: I did see recipes for this when we were when 450 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: we were doing the reading. But rite like you take 451 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: like a like a long thin peeling or strip of 452 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: carrot and soak it in sugar like sugar water for 453 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: for a while and then yeah, just kind of roll 454 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: it up and put it on top of the cake. 455 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: And if you get them in multiple colors, then they 456 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: can be really lovely. Yeah, it's a great idea. And 457 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: it still doesn't really say carrot to me in the 458 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: way that a little cartoon cartoony frosting carrot does. But 459 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: I love the concept. I do too, and it's really beautiful. 460 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: There's a couple of different colors of carrot going on here, 461 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: just very. 462 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: Artfully decorated and it's very creative and I I really 463 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful. 464 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 465 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's off to your partner, indeed. 466 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: And I do love your strong opinion about butter cream 467 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: or any other frosting, yeah thing cream, cheese. 468 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's important. 469 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: Stick to your guns man, absolutely, And Archer is adorable. 470 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, Well, thanks to both of these listeners 471 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: for writing in. 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