1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Big Hoops coming up on Friday Night, the Jazz at 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: the Grizzlies, the tank Tasting. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much it's hurt this draft stock. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: It's hurting the perception of. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 3: Him, definition of that bad as belts. 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: When you get to the conference fondals a thousand request 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: media vatament, it's gonna be hell of bright lights. You 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: can get overwhelmed as a young dude. Then you come 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: out and it's gonna be Spike League Stars like there. 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: You you can get overwhelmed. 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 4: That kills me. 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Medium bro Go touch some grass. Talk to some people 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: who don't work in the NBA. 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: You know, when things go bad, it go real bad. 15 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the latest edition of 16 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: No Foules Given, of course, presented by Prize Picks. As always, 17 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm joined by my co host Paul Pierce Danny Green. 18 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: Make sure you go download the Prize Picks app today 19 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: and use the promo code NFG at sign out. We 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: got a dope show for you, guys. Let's get right 21 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: into it, man. Big Thursday night action in hoops in 22 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: the Association, the Pistons completed the season sweep of their 23 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: nemesis the New York Knicks. Behind forty two and thirteen 24 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: assists to go along with eight rebounds from Kay Cunningham, 25 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: Detroit took down New York one twenty six to one 26 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: to eleven to complete the regular season's sweep. The Pistons 27 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: average margin of victory and their three wins with point 28 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: brou with New York losing by thirty one and thirty 29 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: eight in the first two. 30 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: Meets definition A belt. That's bad as belt to as 31 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: like the definite. That's unacceptable, Bro, that is unacceptable, especially 32 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: this one. Okay, Cat was out, Og was out, a 33 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: couple other ones, but even Dura was out. Something like 34 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: bodies is out? 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: Bro? 36 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: What right after the break, y'all get smacked at home? 37 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: With their two best defensive rebounding players off the court. Yeah, 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: come on, Bro, I had New York as my favorite comouties. 40 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: After this, it's shaky, Bro. They better hope they don't 41 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: see Detroit in the playoffs because Kate cunning seeing neck 42 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: jersey he is taking, He's pulling out multiple belts. 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh. He was incredible tonight. 44 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: Paul, what do you think about the Knicks not being 45 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: able to make a statement against this young up and 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: coming squad. 47 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: I mean, let's gonna definitely have a psychological effect on 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: them if it comes playoff time, because like, now, what 49 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: do you get from these three When you go in 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: the playoffs, you usually look at how you played the 51 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: team in the regular season, and you're gonna be like, 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: we're not getting anything from this. 53 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: What can they learn from it? Right? 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 5: Can they learn? 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: They're not They're not even watching the film on this, 56 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: Like the next day, we ain't gonna watch all three games. 57 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: You know, with them games, You're just like, nah, we can't. 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: We gotta flush that. 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 5: We're gonna have to flush this all three games. 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 2: So now, like I was talking to you earlier, they're 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: gonna have to or I was talking to Chris, we 62 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: were saying, like they're gonna have to look at a 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: team that Detroit struggled against and say, this is the 64 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: way we gotta play. You're gonna try to emulate that, 65 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: but that's not your game obviously. So I just don't 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: know how how the Knicks can get past Detroit in 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: a playoff series. 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 5: If Detroit is healthy. 69 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: They like the okay, see the East bro. 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 5: I mean I'm not saying that yet. 71 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: Like that, like Okay, see to like, it's just one 72 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: of those teams they just about the East. But if 73 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: they match up with Detroit, I'm like, man, I'm not 74 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: as common. 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: I wouldn't. 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 5: This is the thing. 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: I was with the Celtics in two thousand and two 78 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: and we have beat the Nets, who is the number 79 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: one team in the East, three times, I believe. I 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: know we won the season series, and I'm thinking that. 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: Now we got them in the playoffs in the conference finals. 82 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, we going to the Chip. So 83 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: what I'm saying and we wind up losing that series 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: and six. So what I'm saying is just because you 85 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: beat them in the regular season doesn't equal post season 86 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: for success. So you know, it is what it is now. 87 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: They won, they won the three battles. Now when the war, 88 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: let's see who. 89 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 5: Wins the war. 90 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying they won it handedly too. So like if 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: Detroit they match up East Conference finals and Detroit loses that, 92 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying they shipped the bed. Something happened. 93 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: You can't think favorite against. 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: This team, against this team, against the Knicks, you not 95 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: beat like I under stay it was close games. I'm like, 96 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: all right, it's just regular season they are whipping ass 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: out there, Like what I'm saying, Like you are beating 98 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: the dog shit out of them. Like if you if 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: it's a complete against this team in the playoffs, what 100 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: the hell went wrong? 101 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 4: Well? 102 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: Look, I watched this game from front to back, and 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: the Knicks started off one of fourteen from three, couldn't 104 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: make a shot, and you know, the game was mostly 105 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: competitive until the Pistons kind of blew it open in 106 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: the beginning of the fourth quarter. And to me, I 107 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: just think their defense was just unacceptable, just unacceptably bad 108 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: in the sense that Detroit just never looked uncomfortable at 109 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: any point in this game. Cade got wherever he went, 110 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: wanted to, whenever he wanted to, and whenever the Knicks 111 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: did send to help, it was just coming from obvious 112 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: places and he was just picking them apart. 113 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 4: But what I will say. 114 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: About Detroit in a playoff setting, their offense isn't this good. 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, they do lack secondary ball handling, they do 116 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: lack shooting. They're not going to be a hard team 117 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: to scout in terms of you need to load up 118 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: on Cad, you need to force these other guys to 119 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: put you need to make Tobias Harrison dribbler. 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: You need to like it sounds easy till you have 121 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: to do it if you don't have the personnel to 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: do it. I think the Knicks their offense looks good 123 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: against it because I think there's a chip on their 124 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: should especially with Kay Cunningham and starts there. 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: I hear that. 126 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: I think the the personnel to make Detroit not look 127 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: like the best offense in the NBA for sure. Maybe 128 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: that's a crazy thing to say, but that's just no. 129 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: They should better, they should play better. I'm looking at it. 130 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: Turnovers wasn't that big of a differential, Rebounds wasn't that 131 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: big of a differential. Three was a little bit like, 132 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 133 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: Man, he just generated way easier looks. 134 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: That's like if you watch the flow of the game, 135 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: like everything was in the flow, and then you know 136 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: they were times with the Knicks kind of forced k 137 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: to take a stuff, a tough, crazy step back after 138 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of dribbles. 139 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: And he made it like. 140 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Detroit played incredible tonight. It's not like they were mediocre 141 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: and won this game. I just think the Knicks, like, 142 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: if you're looking at your defense against this Detroit offense 143 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: in a game that you felt like you were supposed 144 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: to win not being able to come up with more 145 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: stops than they did. 146 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: Paul, I think is that's. 147 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: Concerned even with the regular season the way it went. 148 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 5: I still I'm not confident in the Detroit Detroit. 149 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: Beating the Knicks in the playoff series because if they meet, 150 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to meet in the conference finals. 151 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: Right, Like the. 152 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: Guys light let me tell you that that's the only light. 153 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: I think that's like we saw the like we saw 154 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: in the three point contest Conker Nipple, right them lights. 155 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: When them lights get brighter, it's like, Dann, you forget 156 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: some things, like like you need some stuff at home, 157 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: you know. 158 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: So I'm like, damn. When they go in that locker 159 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 5: room right now. 160 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: Detroit, after every game, they probably got like four or 161 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: five reporters. When you get to the conference finals, you 162 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: have a thousand requests. 163 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 5: People gonna have a medium vatament. It's gonna be hell 164 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: of bright lights. 165 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: You you can get overwhelmed as a young dude, and 166 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: then you come out and it's gonna be Spike Lee, 167 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: It's gonna be all these. 168 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 5: Stars right there. 169 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: You can get overwhelmed. I'm telling you as a young dude, 170 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: you can get wide eyed. And so that's what I'm saying, 171 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: especially you gonna be tired, somebody gonna have some type 172 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: of a knee bruise, thigh bruise when you get and 173 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: you gotta be mentally in that zone, like it's a 174 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: different round when you get to that conference finals because 175 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: now more pressure. 176 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: These games. Ain't got no pressure on it. What so 177 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: every house money you already beat. You know what I mean, 178 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: if it happens tonight is gravy. 179 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wouldn't. I'm not still sold on the 180 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: Detroit beating the Knicks in the playoffs. 181 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: I said, if Detroit has to get there, so their 182 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: experienced still lacking. So I give a slight edge to 183 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: New York, but I think it'll goes seven games. And 184 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's shaky because you just never know 185 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: how New York gone Nick and they might ship the 186 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: bed like when they when they got to the Eastern 187 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: Consce finals last year, like, oh we're going to the finals, 188 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: we play Indiana. Don't let them Detroit boys get some confidence. 189 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: Indiana was a better team than the Nicks last year. 190 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: They say that now they wouldn't say that going into 191 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: the fuck. 192 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 4: They got the beat up though, I'm just saying. 193 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: Like they're not. 194 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: They was not saying that going into the before the 195 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: round started. 196 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: But they lost to a team that was better than them. 197 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 3: And guess what, Detroit might be better than them too. 198 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: When I hear you, come on, bro, that's not the 199 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: conversation was. 200 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like all of this regular season stuff, 201 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: like it's hard to get super excited about. 202 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: I'm just saying I'm not as confident in the Knicks 203 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: as I was as favorites coming out of the East 204 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: with this performance, he said, defensively. And that's just that. 205 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: Could be another matchup who they played against whoever in 206 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: the playoffs. It could be Philly, it could be Cleveland, 207 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 3: it could be somebody else. Could be. 208 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 5: Back. 209 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: The way this season has gone for Detroit, they really 210 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: ain't had to deal with no adversity, No what's gonna 211 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: happen in the playoffs? Win, You look up and you 212 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: say you down to one in a series, versity hit, 213 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: how do you handle that? 214 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 215 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, think about all of those games Okac had, 216 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: who we all accept as a much better team than Detroit. 217 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Think about all the games they had against Denver and 218 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: against in the finals weren't falling like it went through 219 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: And I think they were way more talented offensive team 220 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: than Detroit is. So that's why it's like, I'm not 221 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna jump out the window with Detroit. I just think 222 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: if you're the Knicks, when you look at yourself in 223 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: the mirror for the next few weeks, know that you're 224 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: not looking at an NBA championship quality team. 225 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 4: Maybe in a few weeks you'll get there. 226 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: That's to me and your consistency, But like, you can't 227 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: look at yourself in the mirror say I'm a quality 228 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: contender NBA because. 229 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: You're not broy after all starts, So okay, we'll give 230 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: them a little bit, but they better start trending in 231 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: a better direction. 232 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: Came back from the Bahamas, got. 233 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: Four season less. Yeah this last four. Were blaming this 234 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: on Turks any better blameing on something because I'm not. 235 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's unacceptable. I mean, I said, have a loss, 236 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: told be different, but getting clapped up the average marginist 237 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: then at thirty. 238 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: Clocks they did. 239 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: It was Denzel training probably last night when he sprayed 240 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: up Sonny. That's what happened this season again, like. 241 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 3: What like if they lost about like eight turn like 242 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: and you know, listen, you know they beat you twice, 243 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: like this is a statement game, and they got their 244 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: guys out, so like they didn't. 245 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: They didn't meet the moment was more action in the association. 246 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: Another game that a lot of people were anticipating, which 247 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: is the Rockets against the Charlotte Hornets. 248 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: La Mellow ended up playing this one. 249 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: Had this one being an upset. I thought they would 250 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: upset them, like well, I mean they played well the game, 251 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 3: especially without the two guys. 252 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: But mellow ball ended up playing, even though he crashed 253 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: his whip today. 254 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: Crazy that happened. Oh, it happens. It happened, Like, yes, maybe. 255 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 4: Played thirty one minutes. Not his best game eleven seven 256 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: and seven. 257 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: The Rockets looked pretty good KD thirty five and eight. 258 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: Hooping. Now, he's surprisingly been healthy most of the se 259 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: more part of the season, the whole season, Mellow you 260 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 3: can talk mentally, he's probably trying to get over that 261 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: the accident, you know what I'm saying, So yesterday so 262 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: like coming back from that. But you know, Katie has 263 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: been hooping. He's pretty much been the only consistent one 264 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: from them. 265 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 4: So you're saying he had to recover from swerving and 266 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 4: been there the corner. 267 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he got it. It's gonna take some time mentally, 268 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: He's probably not like in a comfortable space, you know 269 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, probably dealing with something whoa legal issues? 270 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: That one the hard social media on his head right now. 271 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, Rockets, I think a great win coming out of 272 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: the break. This is a young team that's been surging. 273 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Uh As Chris pulls up footage of lamellow ball. 274 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: Crazy and it's custom Hummer. 275 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: The tire flew off, which is crazy. It looked like 276 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: a damn batman bo bill when I sorry for one 277 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what kind of should is right there? 278 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: He's coming out of the city. 279 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: That's scary, man. 280 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: But the other angles showed the tire pop right, I'm like, damn, 281 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: how the. 282 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Hell that So this guy's making a left hand turn 283 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: and Lamello's just going straight through the light. 284 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: You got just going to the opposite directions. Yeah, but 285 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: why nobody's turning. Nobody's turn to get the other thing 286 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: to each other. That mellow swerved into. 287 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 5: The other lane. 288 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: I think that's he swerved. 289 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: He must have been looking at his phone or something. 290 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 5: He just swerved. 291 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: Look he's going straight. 292 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 5: Mellow. Oh yeah, he got in the wrong lane. 293 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy. 294 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: And then that tire popped right up off look, and 295 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: that's a hummer is supposed to be. 296 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: Like, that's crazy. 297 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: He was like, how you Yeah, he's on his phone 298 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 5: fro that's crazy. 299 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: Lord, have mercy. 300 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 5: Like if I'm the other driver, I'm seeing that, and 301 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 5: I'm yeah. 302 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 4: I'm yeah. 303 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: Probably you probably ain't think you're gonna turn that wide. 304 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: Crazy. 305 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably don't think he's gonna turn that wide. I 306 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: mean everybody involved, man, we hope everybody is safe, and 307 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: I mean Mello. Obviously it seems to be finally played, 308 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: played thirty minutes, but we hope the other parts are 309 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: involved are safe and healthy. 310 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad everybody came out unscathed. You know, I was. 311 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: I was doing this the Basketball Illuminati podcast with my 312 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: guy Zach Harper and Molde Quille, and they were asking 313 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: me which one of these teams between Charlotte and Houston 314 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: was more likely to get the rail by off court stuff, 315 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: And I think with Charlotte it's the off court stuff 316 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: is really. 317 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: Just been it's been chilled since. They mean it was 318 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: it was a theme for them, like. 319 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: Big problem, Brandon Millery, Yeah, got drafted. 320 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: Was it book night? They had like they had a 321 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: couple other incidents and then they had Kai over there 322 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: with the colorful he had the colorful hair, bro big 323 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: Man Center athlete. He ended up going to a clip 324 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: like he ended up going he started doing like with 325 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: Marlbury TikTok streams bugging. 326 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: Out, Oh, I forgot about this kid. 327 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about, right, Chris, I'm trying 328 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: to remember his name. It's like Kai or kid. He 329 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: had a colorful afro, was athletic, he thought he was. 330 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: And then he started talking about Mike on his tiktoks 331 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: and you know, Jordan A's gonna wave cut. 332 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 5: Me or something. 333 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: Oh that's crazy. 334 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've had so They've had a long history of 335 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: guys having off court situations. You know, the KD stuff 336 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: over All Star Weekend with alleged burner accounts on Twitter 337 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: where he's allegedly dissing teammates, Kai Jones allegedly dissing teammates 338 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: in Twitter group chat s, which again I throw my 339 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: hands up, Paul, I would love to get your thoughts 340 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: and like, do you think that kind of thing really 341 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: hurts the locker room? 342 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: Well, it can definitely. You know, uh, you know when 343 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: things go bad, it go real bad. You know, say 344 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: they're going to losing streak, and then that's when the 345 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: whispers become loud. But like if you're winning, a lot 346 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: of stuff is kept quiet, truthfully. And then you know, 347 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: out of the two franchise, it's more likely with Houston 348 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: because they're a bigger market than Charlotte. You know, it's 349 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: probably thousands of things that's going to Charlotte. We just 350 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: don't kept local, you know, because they're not a big market. 351 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: You know, if it's in Houston, something happens in Houston 352 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: with the superstar like Durant, it's gonna be big news. 353 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: Like so you know, hopefully they'll get past it because 354 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: I think they just their young team and they respect Durant. 355 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 5: Even if he. 356 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: Said that, he can go in there and just be like, 357 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: you know what, that was my people's my bad and 358 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: they'll get over it because that's KD. So what I 359 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: said it, Well, it's showed me something different, show. 360 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 4: Like it's the most important thing, absolutely. 361 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: And then I look at the other guys who we 362 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: talk about y'all, y'all really ain't stepping up. Why I 363 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: gotta be thirty seven and still doing this. I'm supposed 364 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: to be leaning on y'all until the playoffs, like come 365 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: on dog again. 366 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: I could, I agree, but I highly I said, this 367 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: type of shit happens all the time, not all the 368 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: time in this sense, but there's always gonna be murmurs. 369 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 3: There is always gonna be rumors and people talking ship 370 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: whether it's in the family room, they hear it, and 371 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: I would like to I'm say, like the thing, but 372 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: I I would bet some money that Katie's probably said 373 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: these things to some of these guys face to face. 374 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: At some point, a lot of people were saying that, like, 375 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure Kad hasn't told these people to He's not. 376 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: He don't seem like the t all that type of thing. 377 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: You might be a little saying say it a little slow, 378 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: like you might be a little you know what I'm saying, 379 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 3: like certain things he might say he shouldn't say it. 380 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: This is funny, But I started holding Steph for con 381 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: the Booming film, and niggas looked at me like. 382 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: Some of the stuff was like it was a little smaller. 383 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: Me was crazy? 384 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: So can we can we listen to what KD said 385 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: when he addressed it, Yeah, he addressed it. 386 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 6: I know you gotta ask these questions, but I'm not 387 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 6: here to get into Twitter nonsense, simps. 388 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: Here to focus on the season, keep it pushing. 389 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 6: But I know I get you gotta answer these questions. 390 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 6: My teams know this. We've been locking the whole season. 391 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 6: Jolie got break, had great practiced today, looking forward to 392 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 6: the road. 393 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: Shut it down, broid, I've been in the like notice. 394 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: Talking you notice always remember this when a public person 395 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: gets in trouble for something or something is alleged, no denial. 396 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: Always always notice the non denial denial. 397 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: He never said it wasn't me. I think about that. 398 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: So just I just want people to just think about. 399 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: That for a seconds. He might not, he might be 400 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: advised not to to. You know what I'm saying, speak on. 401 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 5: It at all. 402 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 4: Like my thing. 403 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: My thing is because what you think if he denies 404 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: and it comes back to him, it looks worse. Is 405 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: that what you're saying. 406 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: I think if you didn't do it, you just deny it. 407 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: If you didn't do it, it can't be proven that 408 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: you did it. Do you feel me Like if somebody said, yo, 409 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: that was wise that was on Kd's account, I'd be like, no, 410 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't. 411 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 4: There's no way you can prove that. I know it wasn't. 412 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 4: It wasn't mean because I didn't do it right. 413 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: So anyway, the only thing I will say is like, 414 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is KD because this nigga's 415 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: too funny. 416 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 4: The jokes is just too too funny. He said. I 417 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: like that Ben Simmons because at least he passed me 418 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 4: the ball. 419 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: Again, Bro, even if it was. 420 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 5: But that's him speaking as him. 421 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 4: That's what they were saying. 422 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 3: He's in a group last somebody's acting like. 423 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: He said, the account name is get off my dickers. 424 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 5: No, he's not acting like he's somebody. 425 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: No, he's acting like he's KD. 426 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, So why would he do that? 427 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: Why would he's got time, Bro. 428 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: Have an anonymous account and just be hanging out with 429 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: super fans. 430 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: He's always got he's got time on Twitter. I don't 431 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: I don't want are they super fans? I thought there 432 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: was like some of his homies that they just got mad, 433 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: and I think it's both. No, Bro, it's not homies. 434 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 3: These are Rando's on Twitter. 435 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't want to get into why somebody 436 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: would do that type of ship if you're in Kd's position, 437 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: But like you know, the only doubt for me is 438 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: just the comedy is just too pure. 439 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 4: It's all in russ a triple double cocaine bear. 440 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 3: It is not. It's not shocked because he's the allegations 441 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: they seem to fit you. I'm saying he's going to 442 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: have some Twitter burner accounts, so, like you know, it's hard. 443 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: To Devin Booker, Joseph Stalin, Yeah, and Frank Vogel, Adolf 444 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: Hitler crazy nah Kat not that funny bro. 445 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: Oh, this is what he's talking about. 446 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: Tree young bro shoot from the logo, but can't shoot 447 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: a mint breath deadly for real. 448 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 4: Been glazing me since middle school. 449 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: Somebody get this man chain and too bressure some gum before. 450 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: Then, glazing me since middle school is crazy. 451 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 4: I just refuse to believe he's that funny bro. 452 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: Hornet's got better young players than the Rockets, me on 453 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: the Hornets, greater than me on the Rockets. 454 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 5: Damn. 455 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: I didn't see all of those, that's crazy. I saw 456 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: a couple of them. 457 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn the ball over with the shitty ass team. 458 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. Your franchise player can't shoot 459 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: or defend. That's a way bigger issue than my turnovers. Remember, 460 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: these guys are your future. 461 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 5: So you just want to talk on to the Rockets. 462 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: Fans, yeah, or just big KD fans. Yeah, he's talking 463 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: to his biggest fans. I'm thinking, like, from what I understand, 464 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: it's like the biggest KD super fans on the internet. 465 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: And he started a group chat with him. 466 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, this is gonna he won't give you back. Yeah, 467 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: So allegedly this is all alleged. Again, KD doesn't deny it. 468 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: He just said he's moving on from. 469 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: The situation he had thirty five day, one night. I'm 470 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: sure people forget about it. 471 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 4: Not gonna affect this in the week, people. 472 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: Forget about something else. Dumb is gonna happen. 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Big Hoops coming up on Friday Night, the 530 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: Jazz at the Grizzlies, the tank tasting. 531 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 5: The tank. 532 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: Oh oh you think. 533 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: God, thank m Ass Jazz and you know, the Memphis 534 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: Grizzlies in a tank off for the ages. I'm gonna 535 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: go ahead and give you all the easiest possible wager. 536 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 537 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: Maybe in the history of life. 538 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 3: Less on everything here, I'm going Larry. 539 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 4: Mark more than twenty five and a half points chance 540 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: low chance locked. This is the lock of the cens the. 541 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 5: Lock of the century, Lock. 542 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: Of the century. Is he even gonna play in the 543 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 4: second half? He better do that. 544 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: If he's gonna do it, do it, you gotta do 545 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: it in two quarters. 546 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he gotta go Darren Peterson if I want to, Yeah, 547 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm way less than now, my god, Jalen Wells Man. 548 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: I like that he's taking more ownership with the offense 549 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I've been a fan of his 550 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: since last year. This great draft pick up for for 551 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: Memphis one of my favorite guys on their team more 552 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: or less than eighteen and a half. See, this is 553 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: an easy more for me because he's gonna actually play. 554 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna play hard. Yeah, he's not gonna get pulled 555 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: because his team is winning. You know, less less Bowl, 556 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: whoa Isaiah Collie more or less than ten and a 557 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: half assists? 558 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna play. He's gonna play a lot of minutes. 559 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: I'm still gonna less. I think he's gonna shoot a lot, 560 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna less on assists. 561 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 5: So is uh price. 562 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: Pigs might have got confused and thought this was John Stockton. 563 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 3: He had a what's the name twenty is something assist game? Yeah? Crazy, 564 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: so even even additioned. 565 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: So my other guy, he's not playing now if he's starting, George. 566 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 5: George right barely, Yeah, he's they're just sitting here. 567 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: They just they're doing the same chickanery. But he's out 568 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: right now amazing both teams. 569 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: That's like fourteen players on there. 570 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: Less Adam Silver, get your league boy, less on Isaiah Collier. 571 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 5: Yeah he's going last. 572 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: Yeah yep. 573 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: Less Yeah. 574 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: Speaking the tank and the disgusting situation that we find 575 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: ourselves in via the association. Multiple sources with knowledge of 576 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: Thursday's GM meetings, as well as late January Competition committee meetings, 577 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: told ESPN that the following concepts have been discussed to 578 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: curb tanking. First round picks can be protected only top 579 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 1: four or top fourteen meeting. You can only protect it 580 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: for the top four or lottery protected. All this other 581 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: top seven, top eight get out of here. Either should 582 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: have get off the pot, lottery odds freeze at the 583 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: trade deadline or at a later date. 584 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 4: I know that's something you brought up that you would 585 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 4: like to see. Andy's brought that up. 586 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: No longer allowing the team to pick top four in 587 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: consecutive years and or after consecutive bottom three finishes like that, 588 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to see that all. 589 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't mind that at all. All these look like good. 590 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: Teams can't pick top four the year after making the 591 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: conference finals, but if they own somebody's pick, I'm gonna 592 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: get into that. 593 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: Lottery odds allocated based on two year. 594 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: Two year records, Sure lottery extended to include all playing teams, 595 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: flatten odds for all lottery teams. 596 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 4: I would love to see that, honestly, like the same 597 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 4: amount of everybody gets the same balls. You're one through fourteen. 598 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: I would love. 599 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 5: That so much. 600 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: That'll make it because then you're not there's just nothing 601 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 3: to take. It's kind of the same as freeze frame 602 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: and the like, yeah. 603 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 4: Pray it's it. 604 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: Which of these ideas are the best and most effective? 605 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 5: I like the flat to. 606 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: Latin nods not bad. I like the flat odds. 607 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 5: It's simple as it's more simple than the rest. 608 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: You don't make the playoffs, you have the same amount 609 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: of odds, mm hmm. And again, but you know, again, 610 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: everybody the guys that I feel like everybody should have 611 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: the same amount of odds. 612 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. 613 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: True love a lot of teams that are bad, like 614 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: better to. 615 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: This idea that you can't possibly you know, fine diamonds 616 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: in the rough, like be great at your job without 617 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: a draft. I just find it, you know, hard to 618 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: believe to me. My favorite one is definitely the flattening 619 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: of the odds. 620 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 4: I just know. I think that's the most likely. 621 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: I'm of all of these, I'm okay with flattening the odds. 622 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm okay with freeze framing a deadline or it didn't 623 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: get rid of, like getting rid of the draft completely, like, 624 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: if we're going to do it, then then do it. 625 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: So those three ideas to me, everything else I'm like. 626 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the other things don't really fix Yeah, I 627 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: don't really fix the problem. So so now it's just 628 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: flattening the odds. It don't matter if you the last. 629 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: You know, if you last, yes, now you're just playing 630 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: to try to get to a plan. 631 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: And also but again, now if we're just gonna look 632 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: even the flatten the odds, folks, I think you know, 633 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: get rid of the play make it the eight teams again, whatever, right, 634 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: even if flatten the odds, folks, I promise you these 635 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: teams that are close to the eighth seed are going 636 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: to say we'd rather not have the eighth seed than 637 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: put ourselves in the lottery. 638 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: And we're still gonna be doing. 639 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: But that's why don't that's why you don't put it 640 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: just at eight. You's still the playing. I think is 641 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: you need the play because then they have something. 642 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: To play for, Danny, That's what I'm trying to do. 643 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 3: You don't think they're gonna try to play for playoffs 644 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: and a lot of the odds same like odds. 645 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 4: No, if getting into the real playoffs. 646 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 3: Well, so that's why you gotta do one of the other. 647 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: So you got either freeze frame or flat the odds, right, 648 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: you can't do you can't do both. So like if 649 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: you said freeze frame, this is your record now, I 650 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: was like, all right, now, you're still what I'm saying. 651 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: You still get this odds of being lottery and still 652 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: make the playoffs by getting to the play in. 653 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 4: That's all of this stuff is gonna be gamed. 654 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: It's like freezing in until the All Star or whatever 655 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: date or some people have suggested, Paul like not. 656 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: Telling anybody what the date is. 657 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: Even the freeze data secret, so nobody knows when they can. 658 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: Start or stop with. 659 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: The All Star break, Like, all right, these are. 660 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: This is I don't like that one. 661 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: I've heard a bunch of this stuff, but I just 662 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: think again, if you're rewarding the bad teams with the 663 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to just force a young guy to go play 664 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: for your team for four years at minimum, nobody's again 665 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: this same logic. Because the Jazz, if they wanted to, 666 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: could have pursued a top ten seed this year. 667 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 4: They could have tried it with the talent that's on 668 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 4: their roster. But to them they perceived. 669 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: No, the plan is nowhere near as valuable. Putting a 670 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: team together that wins is nowhere near as valuable as 671 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: being in the top eight of this draft, right, and 672 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: so all of this stuff is good at nipping at 673 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: the edges. 674 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: But the logic of this, this is what we're playing with. 675 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: This the rules, and this is how we get good 676 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 4: young players. 677 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: I think gods are just going to continue to stink 678 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: up the joint to get draft picks. 679 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, with the other rules. 680 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: That's why I say flatin odds, like and then you 681 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: just only include, like say a certain number of teams 682 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: that you want to say, all right, y'all are in 683 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: the lottery pool. Then there's a different pool after the lottery. 684 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna put the rest of the teams in 685 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: the pool after the first thirteen p. 686 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: And I also love the idea like if you get 687 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: a number one pick, you're ineligible for top four you 688 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: know last year, yeah, next two years, fuck it, damn yeah, 689 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: pray on the six sixth, number six or whatever like, 690 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: But then a bunch of teams that just start stinking 691 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: it up, and then how do you do that? 692 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: It's just do you think there's a way they can, 693 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 3: the league can figure out a way to make this 694 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: like a a money maker make money off of a 695 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: lottery tournament. 696 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: No, I mean even if they did, it wouldn't solve 697 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: the problem of negating. 698 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 4: Think about how. 699 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: Much inventory there are of regular season games, Like, even 700 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: if you did that, how do you make it so 701 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: that this generously called thirty five percent of your inventory 702 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: is pure. 703 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: Garbage not the end to see Like they say you 704 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: have to play in tournament, then you have like every 705 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 3: the day you have to play in and you have. 706 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 4: So you forced teams to be good enough to win. 707 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 3: You gotta you want to hire Island, and you're gonna. 708 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: They're gonna gain their ways into being in that tournament 709 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: to beat up on these trash. 710 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: Teams, all trash. They're on the same kind of the 711 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: best teams you're gonna say you. 712 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 4: Play, I'm saying the most the like. 713 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 3: It's gonna be the worst teams that's gonna be playing 714 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: the lottery. 715 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 4: They're gonna play against each other, I'm telling you. 716 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: And then they gotta play for better odds. 717 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 718 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 5: I still don't. I still don't solve the regular season. 719 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 4: It just doesn't. 720 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: None of this regular frame and then have it like 721 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 3: at that time, like these a lot of you, but 722 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 3: you can get. 723 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 5: To make it so it doesn't matter. It's kind of 724 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 5: like the n I it doesn't matter. 725 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: Be competitive, go out and try to win, since it 726 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: don't matter if you got a bad record to get 727 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 2: the number one pick, you're gonna just keep playing if 728 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: you're flat to odds. 729 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: And just think about what it does psychologically to these 730 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: young players who year after year are just acts three 731 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: years in a row. 732 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 4: No, we don't want to win here. We hate winning. 733 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: Here is a bad atmosphere because we want to draft 734 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: your replacement. It's the most like the psychology of this 735 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: ship is the most insane thing to me. You know, 736 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: even with Joe Ellenbiide on the Sixers, I'm not saying 737 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: he's not a winner or he's not a winning player, 738 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: but I do think there's something to the psychology of 739 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: how they started his career for sure, where it's like 740 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: it's the processing you're the savior at Joellen. It's just 741 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: like bro, you think that didn't affect the guy's work 742 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: ethic or the way and Ben Simmons the way they 743 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: approach their professionalism and Joelle withhod Is conditioning and all 744 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: of this stuff like, it's just a nasty environment culture 745 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: to say, it's bad marketing for your league and your products, 746 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: it's nasty for the culture within your organization. It's just 747 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: so toxic, and I'm tired. That's another thing, man. This 748 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: is one of my rants, guys, because I'm on. 749 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 4: The media side, and I got a lot of love. 750 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: For my media guys, but it's very obvious to me 751 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: that most of them spend their time talking to GM motherfuckers, 752 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: management types who are like, no, no, no, no, no, we're 753 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: so smart for tanking. Here's how efficient we are. Here's 754 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: how we're optimizing for everything. And then these motherfuckers come 755 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: out and they try to explain the fans why no, no, no, no, 756 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: this is smart, guys, and you should love it. You 757 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: should love this bread sheet manipulation ship that these fucking 758 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: dorks are doing, and not just that shit kills me. 759 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: Media motherfuckers, bro go touch some grass, talk to some 760 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: people who don't work in the NBA, who love the 761 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: NBA as a sport and as a passion, and try 762 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: to kick this bullshit. Y'all be talking about, Oh, this 763 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: is so smart to optimize. This is cold card and 764 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: efficiency like you sound fucking crazy. 765 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: Bro. 766 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry this is a media because again they're not talking. 767 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: Not to say these guys don't talk to players, but 768 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: I promise you, when guys are out there peddling this 769 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: pro management, this pro tanking, this efficiency optimization bullshit, it's 770 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 1: because they just getting it directly from these GM's assistant gms, scouts, etcetera, etcetera. 771 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, well, they gotta do something. We'll see what they 772 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 3: come up with. They're gonna come with something sooner than later. 773 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that because people, you're not the only 774 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 3: one about it. 775 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 4: I pray on on it. 776 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 3: Uh Wolves, what's my god? 777 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: Damn you came through the live show man who knew 778 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: he was a podcaster. 779 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: Came up on the couch seamlessly on podcast. 780 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, boy. 781 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 5: Man, we go a ain't Morgan. We're gonna need some 782 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 5: word in bucks. 783 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: Yallawaukee Free podcast training Power Moves presented by Morgan and Morgan. 784 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 4: This time man is Stephen A. 785 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: Smith, who said, quote, there is no team in hell 786 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: that should grab Darren Peterson at number one. 787 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 4: You cannot do it. 788 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: The first ability is availability, my brother, Darren Peterson, I 789 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: hope you're watching because I'm talking directly to him, what 790 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: the hell is going on? You are a college player. 791 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: There's twenty four to twenty five games. He's already missed 792 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: about eleven to twelve end quote. 793 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 3: And minutes restriction on like five or six, Like he's 794 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 3: come out early on like five or six. 795 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 4: Of them like that, Well, is this a power move? 796 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 4: Is this hurting his draft stock? Darren Peterson? 797 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much is hurting his draft stock. 798 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 2: It's hurting the perception of him as a person and 799 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: his brand. And you know, that's what these kids think 800 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: about the most, is their brand. Like when you have 801 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: us talking about it and you know, guys on on 802 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 2: ESPN and whatever networks they talk hoops and podcasts, this 803 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: is not good for your brand. And teams are gonna 804 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 2: look at that and just be like, you know, how, 805 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: you know, how is this competitive fire? How is his 806 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 2: mental you know about the game? Is it just a business? 807 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 2: Or does he love it? You know what I'm saying. 808 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: Those questions start to get asked when you see some 809 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 2: of the things that happen, or is it really something 810 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 2: physically wrong with him? Really, like like let's do like, 811 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 2: let's really do the research. And let's get in and 812 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: talk to the coaches and teammates and all of that. 813 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 2: When it's all said and done before we just kind 814 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: of like make our own opinion about what we think 815 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: about them. So, you know, but it doesn't look good 816 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: as far as just perception. 817 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 5: And your brand. 818 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 3: You see him play, what did you see when you 819 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 3: were there? 820 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,959 Speaker 2: I mean I saw, like a lot of people say, 821 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: you know, who is his comparison is? You know, he 822 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: reminds me a lot of like Bradley Beal. You know, 823 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: I see a lot of Bradley Beal in this game. 824 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: You know, smooth, definitely a pro plays like a pro 825 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: in college. You know, you see it. I had the 826 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 2: chance to see it. They've closed, but you know, like 827 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: from watching on TV that the guy is a no 828 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 2: brainer pro. But also, like I think, when you draft, 829 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: I want to understand who I'm drafting to let me 830 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: talk to him in that process because we always draft 831 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,959 Speaker 2: guys who wow, the long arms, Oh he could score 832 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 2: so easy, But then you look up when they get 833 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: to the league, the mentality ain't what you want it 834 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 2: to be. To kind of try to compete for a 835 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: championship or to really really build around long term and 836 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 2: it's just like, damn, we saw all this, you know 837 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 2: this upside and its just like damn, he really didn't 838 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: want it mentally, And that's what separates the guys from 839 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: like going from superstardom to like whatever's that next level. 840 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: Like when you like, like think about this, the only 841 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 2: difference between Kobe and t Mac was the mentality. You know, 842 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: it was just like if he if he had close 843 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 2: to Kobe's mentality, t Mac would be considered one of 844 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 2: the four or five best players to ever play. And 845 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 2: so you know that's what I look at when I start, 846 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: you know, look at if I was a GM, I'll 847 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 2: look at those little things. 848 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 5: Will he be a great NBA players? He has a chance? 849 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 5: I mean I don't. 850 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's a sure shot because I've 851 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 2: seen number one picks no not make it to the 852 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 2: next level. But I like what I'm seeing when he 853 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: does play. But things just has to get a questioned 854 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: on the perception of you know, who is he mentally? 855 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 4: Two things for you, Danny, like what do you think. 856 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: This should do to his draft stock, if anything at all? 857 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: And how do you feel about it personally just as 858 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 1: a player, as a Hooper. 859 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of it, man. I think it's 860 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, you're cheating the game. But like the 861 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 3: basketball guys like they reward you if you just go 862 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 3: out there and do what you're supposed to do. 863 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 5: Just go hoop, bro. 864 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 3: Like you're talking about Kyrie, he played eleven games and 865 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 3: he wouldn't. But it's very different. It's a different time. 866 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 3: Like he was hurt, came back, went out there and hooped. 867 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 3: He wasn't like administration take me out, you know that 868 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 3: type of thing. The kids today are. They also getting 869 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 3: paid a lot of money, so it's a different type 870 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: of vibe. 871 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 4: But to me, that's even worse. You getting paid and 872 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 4: you clocking out early as a fan. It's honest, days 873 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 4: paid for work. 874 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 3: They don't have that same hunger that we had when 875 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 3: we wasn't. You know what I'm saying. It's different. It's 876 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 3: a different type of mindset, different type approach. And like 877 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 3: when I was on air today and I was talking 878 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 3: about it, I'm like trying to think of who's the 879 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 3: last person to do some ship like this, like who 880 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 3: set out or shut it down? It was like Mark 881 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 3: hell Falls, You know what I'm saying, Ben Simmons, Like, 882 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: those aren't the type of players you want to be 883 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 3: in the same category. Is this this is gonna trickle 884 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 3: over like into the next level? Like is your mindset 885 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 3: to be to quit and run or to you know, 886 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 3: pack up and and shut it down when things don't 887 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 3: go your way? Like, that's not a good sign to start, 888 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, But I don't think it should hurt. 889 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 3: He's still a very good player. He's young. I think 890 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 3: he's doing what he's being advised to do, which I 891 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 3: don't think is the right. 892 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's advised though, because I saw 893 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: the game he shot the three and he was just like, 894 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 2: all right, that's it, take me out. 895 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, But do you think he's coming to this conclusion himself? 896 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: For you? 897 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 5: Is he actually maybe he's actually physically he might have. 898 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 3: Been cramping up, but I think like once because he 899 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 3: had had twenty three, he had twenty and fifteen. 900 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure that like is it or is 901 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 2: I can't believe that this is orchestra. 902 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying, Paul. 903 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 3: I think somebody's telling him. You know, when you feel 904 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 3: you got what you need to get get out of 905 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 3: there about. 906 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 4: You guys, Danny as well. 907 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 3: If you cooking, bro, you want a hoop bro? He 908 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 3: had twenty and fifteen minutes our face. He cooked onto 909 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 3: microwave type. He ain't a real fast Our. 910 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 4: Favorite plays and we talk about ticket all the time. 911 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: Could you imagine Kevin Garnett doing something like this. 912 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 5: I mean he went to the extreme. 913 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 4: I'm just saying. 914 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: That's like the most extreme. He went to the ultimate competitor. No, 915 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: it's just like, give me somebody in the middle. 916 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 4: I forget that. I wouldn't forget KD. I mean kg 917 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 4: excuse me. 918 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 1: Even somebody like a Lebron who I remember this guy 919 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: early on in his career. 920 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 4: He's going out to New York in the summer. He's 921 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 4: playing at ISA with Sebastian Telfair. He's doing all this. 922 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 3: It's just like, yeah, everybody hoops. 923 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 4: Bro, play basketball, bro. 924 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 3: Even like you're talking about you, some of your guys, 925 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 3: Delonte West, Tony Allen, you know what I'm saying, Like Leon, 926 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 3: Paul Perk, big Baby, Like some guys you thought was 927 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 3: like the even if they're a softiest guy on your team. 928 00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 4: You ever respected. 929 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 3: I was like, Nah, we're gonna we're gonna get to it. 930 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't judge him in this climate because 931 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: of the money, Like you said, because of it'll be 932 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 2: different in the. 933 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 5: NBA locker room. 934 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,479 Speaker 2: You know, because then you'll have guys saying loo yo, 935 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 2: veterans that's gonna speak on it, like right now, who's 936 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 2: gonna tell a guy who's making all the money? And 937 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: then Yeah, but I'm saying, what does Bill self want 938 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 2: to do to future recruits? 939 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 5: Also? 940 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: You know, you know he has to set a president 941 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 2: here to where he's like, I wouldn't know what to 942 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 2: do if I was him, I don't know because you'll 943 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 2: be stuck in between, like if I allow him to 944 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 2: do it. 945 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 5: The next recruit, Tyran Stokes is. 946 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 2: Coming in next year, the number one player in the country, 947 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 2: you know, is this something he's gonna aye? And be like, 948 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 2: am I I can do this unless I get my 949 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: number sick because I'm projected to be a top pick already. 950 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: Would you take him number one? 951 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 4: Man? I would have to have a long conversation. 952 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 5: Would you would I take him number one? 953 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: Uh? 954 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 4: Stack draft member? 955 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: They told it this taking is justified. 956 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 2: I mean I feel like the number one I like 957 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 2: aj the man slam because of he has the size 958 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 2: six nine, six nine sixteen still DULs. 959 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,479 Speaker 3: Like he has just the men mindset is not there yet, 960 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: you see, you see Darren Peterson with a stronger approach 961 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 3: to the game than Aj. 962 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: Well, Darren is talented, but like it's already showing me 963 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 2: with the mindset right now. So when you're at the 964 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 2: height of six six six', five you have to have 965 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 2: a certain. Mentality but when you're six nine and, talented 966 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 2: you have a little you can kind of give you 967 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: a little more. Way so that's kind of like the 968 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: DIFFERENCE i, think, Yeah i'm. 969 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: Taking and another thing THAT i will say just related 970 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 1: to the tanking thing and this idea that all that 971 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: matters is optimization and, efficiency and. 972 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 4: That's the same mindset that he's. 973 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: Using, Yeah i'm telling it stems from that same idea 974 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: of we need to do whatever is best For numero 975 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: uno and you, know a greater sense of responsibility than 976 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: anything else. 977 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 4: Is bullshit as far as we're. Concerned AND i just 978 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 4: THINK i think that's a whack. 979 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 3: Mental especially if you're on a team sport, team like 980 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,959 Speaker 3: what's relying on you trying to who the fans won't 981 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 3: want to see? You like you know What i'm, saying 982 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 3: like it's a it's bigger than just, you as you, 983 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 3: said like when you talk about the fans when it 984 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 3: comes to the tanking type of shit for, Me And 985 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 3: i'm not putting them in the same space as As. Bailey 986 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 3: but this, CONTINUES i could see it hurting his draft. 987 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 3: Stock and When i'm looking at the, draft there's other 988 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 3: dogs out there that's hooping and it has, potential Like 989 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 3: Kayla wilson who's six ten six, eleven can jumpup to. 990 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 3: Them even the point. Guard IF i need a point, 991 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 3: guard you got a. Cuff we have forty nine other, 992 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 3: night Even Kingston flemings who's getting, Buckets Like i'm looking Even, 993 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 3: booze he looks. Polished these guys ain't ducking no. Smoke 994 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 3: as A, Gm i'm probably looking at these guys' mentality 995 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 3: Over Darren pearson if he doesn't change this. 996 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: Narrative if it's actually, physical then that's another reason not 997 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: to want the. 998 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 4: Kid if it's. 999 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah already having physical issues with point once a 1000 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 3: week and we have eighty two. Games, bro what you're cramping? 1001 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 3: Up you better figure out you better take some electual. 1002 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 3: Lights you better not better take the gatorade on the 1003 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 3: sideline when it's handed to. 1004 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 5: You he's not drinking the gator but. 1005 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: He's clearly treating basketball as a, business which brings us 1006 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: To James, harden. 1007 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 4: Who says that loyalty in the business of basketball is. 1008 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: Overrated after being traded to The, Calves James harden, said 1009 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: loyalty is. 1010 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 4: Overrated quote the whole quote unquote loyalty. THING i think it's. 1011 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 4: Overrated this is a business at the end of the. 1012 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 1: Day another quote From harden to answer your, Question this 1013 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: is a business at the end of the. Day SO 1014 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: i feel like players should ultimately do what's best for, 1015 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: them and the front office does what's best for them 1016 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: and their owner and their. Organization so it's two sides 1017 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: of a. 1018 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 4: Story end. 1019 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 3: Quote he's not, wrong BUT i know you don't like 1020 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 3: To you don't want fans to hear. It you don't 1021 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 3: like to hear. It but he's not wrong at. All it's, like, 1022 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 3: yo so we operate on, loyalty but they don't have, 1023 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 3: to but just don't say. It that's where the ishuit comes. 1024 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 3: In so like because he's said in the, past LIKE 1025 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 3: i want to. RETIRE i, MEAN i think his intentions 1026 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 3: were at the, time, Like, YO i want to be 1027 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 3: here if they do what they do right by. 1028 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 4: Me it's my problem With, james and it's Just. 1029 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 3: James if they're not doing right by, Me i'm. 1030 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: Gone james, SPECIFICALLY i think if a guy who's known 1031 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: to have a tireless motor never quit on a, team 1032 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: always came through and the biggest moment says something like, 1033 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: this you can say that and be, like. 1034 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 4: As long As i'm paid by an, ORGANIZATION. 1035 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: I show up AND i kill he does time for 1036 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: a guy Like james who like you, know put a 1037 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: fat suit, on and The brooklyn situation and then what 1038 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: he does at The clippers And houston was, weird and 1039 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's a little shakier coming from. 1040 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 2: Him, Paul, well it all stems, from you, know how 1041 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 2: he was done In. 1042 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 5: PHILLY i mean he. 1043 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 3: Wanted to get out Of. Houston then he wanted to 1044 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 3: got A. BROOKLYN i Mean philly was where it start like, 1045 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 3: that that that bad taste. 1046 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 2: Thing this is my, Thing like he's not wrong in, 1047 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 2: it but it also like when we as players start 1048 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 2: looking at it just as a, business it takes away 1049 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 2: the competitive spirit of the game like it takes away 1050 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: a fan base growing with you and becoming one with the. 1051 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 5: Fan AND i get. 1052 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 2: It you, know you only have a number of years 1053 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 2: to maximize your, earning you, know. Potential Uh AND i 1054 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 2: hate that the game has come to, this you, know 1055 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 2: because when you look at the old school players, win, 1056 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 2: lose our, draw they want to die with their, franchise 1057 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 2: they want to die with their, fans and. 1058 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,919 Speaker 5: You, know, unfortunately we're in the space to where that's 1059 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 5: not the. 1060 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 2: Issue and you, KNOW i think it all started With 1061 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 2: lebron truthfully going To miami and guys was, like you, 1062 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 2: know we controlled our. FUTURE i, mean he's the pioneer of. 1063 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 2: This but we see guys jumping around there's no more you, 1064 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 2: know that franchise. PLAYER i Think Steph curry is gonna 1065 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 2: be the last guy to do. That you, know a 1066 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 2: guy who's a franchise guy who's with his one team 1067 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 2: last one was Like kobe And, Dirt Tim, duncan guys like. 1068 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 2: That so this is the the culture that we get 1069 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 2: to the next team and then, like but In harden's, 1070 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 2: case he's gone the teams that, like he's trying to 1071 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 2: get the money and win at the same time where. 1072 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 3: He shows up like he works. Hard everybody bases off 1073 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 3: an eyebreak can Be Michael Jeffrey joe and everybody can 1074 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 3: be you know What i'm. Saying so, like he has 1075 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 3: his moments and a lot of people unfortunately they've come 1076 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 3: in the. Playoffs but, again his numbers in the playoffs 1077 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 3: aren't as bad as what people think they. Are but 1078 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 3: he does come to play every he shows he's not missing. 1079 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 4: Games usually he's not lower friend five games of every playoff. 1080 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 3: Series so, yeah so like he comes to. Play so 1081 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 3: like for you to Say i'm not paying you because you, 1082 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 3: know to two games at two or three games out 1083 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 3: of the, playoffs but you every every night eighty two 1084 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 3: games and then eighty, percent like seventy percent of the, 1085 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 3: playoffs you're gonna be. There he's, Like i'm. Loyal if 1086 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 3: y'all gonna pay, Me I'M i want to be. Here 1087 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 3: but if you ain't gonna look out for, me then all, 1088 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 3: right THEN i gotta take my services. 1089 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 4: Elsewhere so here's WHAT i will. Say the last Thing 1090 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 4: i'll say About harden in his quote is. 1091 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: That this is, sports so we can't treat it like 1092 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,839 Speaker 1: it's any other, business like it's a factory where you make, 1093 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: widgets the widgets get, sold and management pays you whatever 1094 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: surplus they got and we all go. Home, Right you 1095 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 1: get your vacation, days you get your pension hopefully whatever 1096 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 1: you get To, like this is not that sports is 1097 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. Different and the truth of the matter 1098 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: is there is an irrationality to sports that a bunch 1099 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: of people show up in roof of gods because they're 1100 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: wearing a certain colored rag on their body and they 1101 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 1: do it every single day and we're cheering for some 1102 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: ball going through a Who, like none of it makes any. 1103 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 1: Sense so like to apply some, cold hard stone cold 1104 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: business logic to, IT i think just completely misses the 1105 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 1: point of sports just in. 1106 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 4: General, Right and so, yeah it is a. 1107 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: Business but, like, bro the reason why we love this 1108 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: thing is because we don't treat it like the rest 1109 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: of our lives in terms of our work and you, 1110 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: know our, jobs et, cetera et. 1111 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 4: Cetera we look at sports as something apart from, that you. 1112 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: Know so For harden to be, like this is a, 1113 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: business it's, like, yeah but not, exactly you know WHAT i. 1114 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 4: Mean and so that's WHAT i would say. 1115 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 3: To Hard is there a better way for him to 1116 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 3: word that then or. Approach, say if you have a 1117 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 3: young player coming in and you're trying to advise them 1118 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 3: how to handle a meetia when it comes to BUT 1119 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 3: i would. 1120 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 4: WHAT i would say To James. HARDEN i want to 1121 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 4: be Where i'm. Wanted that's. 1122 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 3: It and if you sign a big, deal if you 1123 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 3: sign a big, deal you go five years FOR maxi money. 1124 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 3: Somewhere as a young, player it's, like, oh, YEAH i 1125 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,439 Speaker 3: love the. CITY i played here for four or five years, 1126 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 3: Already i'm sign a new. DEAL i wouldn't. MIND i 1127 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 3: want to. 1128 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 4: Retire and then they trade you o just without. 1129 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 3: A bat or toward the end of the, career they're, 1130 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 3: like oh you got, hurt you got, damage, good SO 1131 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 3: i trade. You we're not going to. Pay you're, like, 1132 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 3: well shiit to. 1133 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: Me to, me that's just the player's, dilemma, Right that's 1134 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: the sacrifice that you guys bore as, players is that 1135 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: you don't get to skate in the background like the 1136 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: owners get. To the owners get to hide from everybody 1137 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: and do all kinds of stupid shit and be. Shady 1138 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: the players kind of got to take the. Error that's 1139 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: kind of you guys's. Burden i'm not saying it's. Fair 1140 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: i'm just saying this is what people want to the. 1141 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 3: Media just keep, selling selling the dream to the. FANS 1142 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 3: i love y'all. ORGANIZATIONS i don't know about. 1143 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: That this is That Danny wilk do fans service and 1144 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: play hard at all of this. Stuff but, YES i get. 1145 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: It it's kind of, hokey but you, Know i'm not 1146 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: even mad at What james. 1147 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 4: Said tell me all, right, folks that was our show for. 1148 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: Today make sure you subscribe to The No Files given YouTube. 1149 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 4: Page make sure you like the. Video hit the notification. 1150 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,720 Speaker 1: Belt if you're listening to this on an audio, app 1151 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: please leave us a five star. Review and leave us 1152 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: a five star rating and write us a. 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