WEBVTT - Race to the Bottom

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, keeps in. Welcome to Okay f Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet Your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from our podcast

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<v Speaker 1>studios here in Times Square. Folks, interesting news has been

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<v Speaker 1>popping up once again out of the state of Texas

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<v Speaker 1>because it seems that Governor Greg Abbott is on his

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<v Speaker 1>campaign to be the worst fucking governor in America. So

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<v Speaker 1>in a late in his latest right scheme, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>just be clear that Abbott is facing not one, but

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<v Speaker 1>two Republican challengers for the governorship, and so he feels

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<v Speaker 1>the need to compete to be the worst person in

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<v Speaker 1>this country. Not only has he banned abortions for women

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<v Speaker 1>at six weeks, not only is he restricting schools from

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<v Speaker 1>being able to keep children safe. But now in his

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<v Speaker 1>latest move, he has decided to ban all vaccine mandates,

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<v Speaker 1>not just for state and government, not just for government workers, state, local,

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<v Speaker 1>and federal, but also for private businesses. The question that

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<v Speaker 1>I have is that I thought that Republicans were for

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<v Speaker 1>private business. I thought that they were for the privatization

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<v Speaker 1>of every fucking thing. So it's shocking to me that

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<v Speaker 1>now Abbott is coming in hot and heavy telling private

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<v Speaker 1>businesses what they can and cannot fucking do. Interestingly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>as he decides to sign this executive order that would

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<v Speaker 1>essentially why doesn't he just go one step further and

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<v Speaker 1>just ban vaccinations altogether? Right at the same time that

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<v Speaker 1>Texas has now swooped in for the lead of COVID

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<v Speaker 1>cases in the fucking country, this man himself has been

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<v Speaker 1>vaccinated and then on top of the vaccination, also caught COVID. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so he understands, or should you think, understand the precarious

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<v Speaker 1>nature that we are in. But he doesn't. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>give a damn because the only thing that Greg Abbott

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<v Speaker 1>gives a fuck about is holding onto power, which is evident.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and right now, you have the people in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>You have women in Texas and people in general in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas basically living in a developed nation. When you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the state of Texas right now, you think about

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<v Speaker 1>their voter suppression laws, Apparently democracy does not exist as

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<v Speaker 1>it's there. You think about their Roe v wade, their

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<v Speaker 1>attack on women's rights, apparently that doesn't exist there. So

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<v Speaker 1>you think to yourself, what the fuck is going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas? Because I'm waiting for the executive order when

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<v Speaker 1>they just decide to succeed, and I not succeed, but succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing. I wouldn't miss Texas. I really wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck at this point. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love it if Florida, Texas and whatever other fucking middle

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<v Speaker 1>of hell type of place that is run by these inefficient,

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<v Speaker 1>ineffective executioners decide to do I'm like, fucking leave. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand at this stage in the game. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, and I don't really give a

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<v Speaker 1>damn because at this point I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 1>moved past no fucks given what comes after zero fucks?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I believe that I am there

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<v Speaker 1>because I no longer want to waste time convincing these

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<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers to get vaccinated. You want to die, go for it,

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<v Speaker 1>take yourself out. I don't care. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>convince you. I don't want mobile vaccine units into your

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<v Speaker 1>fucking neighborhoods. I don't want to help you. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to help yourself. I don't want to fucking help you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Here's the other thing too, When I think

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<v Speaker 1>about what's going on, because everybody and you know, our

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<v Speaker 1>friend doctor Jonathan Metzil will come on later and he

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<v Speaker 1>will tell me, Oh, Danielle know it matters, and we

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<v Speaker 1>should have empathy and we should care. But here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I stopped caring. I think that I stopped caring

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<v Speaker 1>about six months ago. You know, when the vaccines were

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<v Speaker 1>available to all people, right when they were at every

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<v Speaker 1>single fucking pharmacy. That there is not a community that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a vaccination site within five miles. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fucking over it. I don't care anymore. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I am vaccinated, and the only thing that I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 1>on right now is a fucking booster, right because I

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<v Speaker 1>would like for my vaccine not to weigh out while

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<v Speaker 1>we try and get more of these people who are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get fucking vaccinated. Right, So I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>to them, dye in mass Let Darwinism take its fucking

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<v Speaker 1>course at this point, right, Less of them means better

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<v Speaker 1>for us, And I swear to God, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad about saying that. Not at this stage in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>We are, folks, nineteen months, nineteen god damn months into

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<v Speaker 1>this global health pandemic, and what we know to be

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<v Speaker 1>true is that pretty much COVID is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>here to stay. So all of these people that are

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<v Speaker 1>dying to go back to normal, I just want them

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<v Speaker 1>to I right, because the only reason why at this

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<v Speaker 1>point that we are never ever getting back to a

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<v Speaker 1>place of normal where mass are now just a part

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<v Speaker 1>of our everyday life is because of Donald Trump. Is

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<v Speaker 1>because of Republican governors like Greg Abbott and death Santis.

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<v Speaker 1>Is because of all of these motherfuckers that care nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about nothing, not their constituents, not public health, not civility,

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<v Speaker 1>not patriotism, not a fucking thing other than power. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sick of it. I'm sick of everybody sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking fence at this point. Right. So the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on Long Island, right because I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with my parents for the long weekend. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a big difference if you are not

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<v Speaker 1>from New York. Let me lay it out for you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a big difference between what happens in New York

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<v Speaker 1>City and what the fuck is going on out on

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<v Speaker 1>Long Island, right, So let me paint this picture for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the suburbs and I decide I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to home, Goods, right, Like, I want to go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, shopping, because you know, those type of big

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<v Speaker 1>box stores in the city don't have the beds selection.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that? Because we got a lot of fucking

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<v Speaker 1>people and not a lot of inventory. So I love

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<v Speaker 1>to go to big box stores when I'm out in

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<v Speaker 1>the suburbs. So I roll up right mask on, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I care about public health, and I go

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<v Speaker 1>into home Goods. Not ne'er a fucking person in this

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<v Speaker 1>store was wearing a mask except for the workers that

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<v Speaker 1>were there. Everyone else walking around the store maskless. I'm saying, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fascinating. I go to the bagel store again.

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<v Speaker 1>I walk in, I'm getting looked at by the way

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm wearing a mask, and I'm looking at these motherfuckers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Oh, is COVID done in Suffolk County?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we Is it finished? Did I not get the memo? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I get that the rates in Suffolk County, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where my family is from. Long Island is made up

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<v Speaker 1>in two counties, Nassa and Suffolk, and my family is

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<v Speaker 1>from out East, and I understand that the COVID rate

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<v Speaker 1>has dropped, hovering around two percent, right which is fairly

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<v Speaker 1>good when we look at where things are nationally, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at places like Texas and Florida and

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<v Speaker 1>what have you. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I also live in an area where Trump flags still

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<v Speaker 1>fly high in the sky, right where motherfuckers have up

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<v Speaker 1>Trump posters on their garage doors and like our hailing

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<v Speaker 1>to their fucking you know, fake ass, criminal ass twice

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<v Speaker 1>impeach misogynistic rapists, Islamophobic, transphobic, homophobic, piece of trash right.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I look and I see my family's neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>right with their Trump flags, to me, what it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like is just why don't you just put up the

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<v Speaker 1>Confederate flag here in New York? Why don't you just

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<v Speaker 1>swing your hood from the KKK up in the air

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<v Speaker 1>as well? Because I don't understand what you are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to convey to your neighbors other than the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you agree with everything that Donald Trump says and does,

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<v Speaker 1>that you agree with racism, that you agree with prejudice.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I say all this to say that

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<v Speaker 1>at this stage in the game, when I hear that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the next conservative has gotten COVID and is

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<v Speaker 1>being hospitalized, and they are taking up resources from other

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<v Speaker 1>people that have done the right thing, or other people

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<v Speaker 1>that don't even have COVID but can't get into the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital because they're being told to sit in the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>lobby because you know the hospital is overloaded. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>turn these people away. You don't give a fuck about

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<v Speaker 1>doctors and scientists until all of a sudden you're bedridden

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<v Speaker 1>and getting ready to go on a ventilator, and now

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you're like, Oh, do what you

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<v Speaker 1>can to save me. Fuck you, Like literally, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I want nurses and doctors to say. Fuck you, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I swore an oath to do no harm, but you

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<v Speaker 1>are the one doing harm. And I'm working twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day, seven days a week to save you

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's from yourself. And at some point in time, you

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<v Speaker 1>just got to throw up your hands and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>go with God. Do you know what I'm saying? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I have reached a point where I know I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear the Biden administration talk about the different

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<v Speaker 1>techniques and things that they are doing to roll out

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<v Speaker 1>to help people get vaccinated. Fuck them. There are entire

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<v Speaker 1>countries like Haiti, Jamaica, underdeveloped places in South America, on

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<v Speaker 1>the continent of Africa that don't even have vaccines right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are flush, right, and so I'm saying, take

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<v Speaker 1>them away, give them to people that are in need.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's conquer the global problem, right, because the wealthy nations,

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<v Speaker 1>much in the same way that the wealthy in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States don't give a fuck about the poor, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the wealthiest nations in the world don't give a fuck

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<v Speaker 1>about the underdeveloped ones. Meanwhile, it's a global health pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't stay where the fuck it is. So for

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<v Speaker 1>those countries that said, oh, I don't know, we would

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<v Speaker 1>provide two hundred million vaccines or two hundred million doses here,

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<v Speaker 1>there and everywhere, and come to find out they have

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<v Speaker 1>done dick. Do you think that your borders are going

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<v Speaker 1>to what turn COVID away at the entry like we

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<v Speaker 1>do migrants and immigrants seeking asylum in this country. You

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<v Speaker 1>think that you can say to COVID nineteen and the

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<v Speaker 1>next iteration, the next fucking variation, oh no, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>go back to where you came from. Yeah, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>work like that, But I gotta tell you that I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with the conversations about the unvaccinated. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a fuck, right like, I'm done with trying to

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<v Speaker 1>convince people go with God. I will wear my man ask,

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<v Speaker 1>I will wash my hands, I will continue to do

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<v Speaker 1>what I have to do to keep myself safe. And

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as the boosters are available, I'm getting another

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the arm, maybe two, just for good measure.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, the FDA is hearing from Maderna and Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>and Johnson to talk about whether or not they are

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<v Speaker 1>going to approve their booster shots, because right now, the

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<v Speaker 1>only shot that is approved is Fiser, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>only approved for those that are sixty five and older

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<v Speaker 1>or those with pre existing conditions that are more susceptible

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<v Speaker 1>to illness. But for those of us who did not

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<v Speaker 1>get Fiser because I did not, I got Maderna because

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<v Speaker 1>that was what was available. I don't want to mix

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<v Speaker 1>these two fucking things in my body. So I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 1>on the FDA to be able to approve Maderna so

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<v Speaker 1>that we can move forward. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck they are waiting for, but let's hope that at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this week we have some good news

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<v Speaker 1>on that front. Let me turn now to Columbus Day

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<v Speaker 1>for a moment, which folks earlier this week, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, you know, I had half of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>were off right for Columbus Day slash Indigenous Day. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. How are we doing both things at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. How are we deciding in this country

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate and provide days off for a rapist, murderer

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<v Speaker 1>right who committed genocide and then also celebrating the people

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<v Speaker 1>that he killed. How the fuck does that work? Right? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that even make sense? So I bring this

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<v Speaker 1>up a couple of days later because I didn't recognize

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<v Speaker 1>until I was watching the local news in New York

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<v Speaker 1>that New York puts on one of the biggest fucking parades,

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<v Speaker 1>an actual Columbus Day parade. I had no idea, but

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<v Speaker 1>tens of thousand sins of people came out, and I

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<v Speaker 1>heard this white lady on the news who said, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not giving up Columbus. That's our Italian hero. Wait what

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus who did not discover America, who did not discover anything,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can't discover shit that where people already exist.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually discovered, you know, Haiti slashed the Dominican Republic.

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<v Speaker 1>And he didn't discover it. It he rolled up on

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<v Speaker 1>their shores drunk, right, and this is your hero, this

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<v Speaker 1>is your man. This is what I put up the

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<v Speaker 1>other day on Twitter because you know, folks, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at a loss. I'm at a loss in these moments.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what I put up on Twitter and on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Only in America do we have holidays, highways, schools, and

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<v Speaker 1>monuments named for rape murderers, racists, and traders, while also

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<v Speaker 1>banning the perspectives of those raped and pillage by their

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<v Speaker 1>white American heroes. This place is so fucked up. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some days I gotta tell you that I

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<v Speaker 1>am becoming completely and totally just fucking outdone. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>one of these days, I am going to walk out

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<v Speaker 1>of my apartment, just go into the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>street and just scream, and do you know what, no

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<v Speaker 1>one will probably even look at me twice. They'll probably say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's about right. You know, here's another thing, guests, who's

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<v Speaker 1>on vacation this week? Fucking Congress. You know, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to work like Congress does. I want to go into

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<v Speaker 1>my job. I want to do the bare fucking minimum

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<v Speaker 1>and then I want to go on vacation for a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody tweeted at me when I posted that comment because

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<v Speaker 1>I am just outdone how Congress is so fucking ineffective

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<v Speaker 1>right now and it doesn't matter that Democrats are in control.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm fucking saying it because I'm not holding

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<v Speaker 1>my tongue anymore, giving Democrats more room to just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do nothing, to just create more and more disappointment. We

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<v Speaker 1>have midterms coming up but a handful of months, and

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me what it is that Democrats are offering

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<v Speaker 1>to the American people that they have done. Tell me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't feel any different. I don't feel any better,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't point to any fucking money that showed

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<v Speaker 1>up in my bank account that I got a check

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<v Speaker 1>from Uncle Sam to help me do a goddamn thing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that we continue to find out, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course no one is being held responsible and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>is being held accountable. But the only thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>continue to find out is guess what The people that

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<v Speaker 1>actually needed the PPP loans didn't fucking get them. New

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<v Speaker 1>report came out that black businesses got their PPP from

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<v Speaker 1>online bankers as opposed to small banks right, brick and

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<v Speaker 1>mortar places, which are of course are racist. These are

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<v Speaker 1>the same lenders that decided to be predatory and cause

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking foreclosure crisis in America that was the largest

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<v Speaker 1>decimation of black wealth since Oh, I don't know, the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the nineteenth fucking century, folks, I gotta tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, America is a shit whole country, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like America really is a shit whole country when you

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<v Speaker 1>look around. I want to tell you about another report

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw over the long holiday weekend. Oh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that twenty five percent of America's infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>is basically going to be underwater given one more historic

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<v Speaker 1>storm that the infrastructure Bill which is no longer an

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<v Speaker 1>actual thing that would help us battle our climate crisis

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<v Speaker 1>that we are currently in. Like it's not a future thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually happening right the fuck now. That yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe next year, maybe a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know, one more historic, unprecedented hundred a year

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<v Speaker 1>storm that the country will be twenty five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the country will be underwater. Six of those cities are

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<v Speaker 1>in Louisiana right now, and largely in guess what black

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<v Speaker 1>and brown communities, because you know, we don't give a

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<v Speaker 1>fuck about them at all. Ever, every single place that

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<v Speaker 1>you look, there's just more devastation, more disaster, more fuckery.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you this too. So while I

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<v Speaker 1>was home on Long Island, right I My mother is

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<v Speaker 1>a small business owner, as you guys know, and has

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<v Speaker 1>just celebrated which no small feat just celebrated her fifteenth

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<v Speaker 1>year of owning her yoga studio on Long Island. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I have said this before that where I grew up,

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<v Speaker 1>I very rarely ever saw police, except if they were

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<v Speaker 1>like just going to and from on the major throwaway

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, posted up on the Long Island Expressway

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<v Speaker 1>to ticket people at the beginning and at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the month when of course they need to make

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<v Speaker 1>their quotas. Right, that was the only time. What I

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<v Speaker 1>did have, however, were tree lined streets, sidewalks, gated communities,

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<v Speaker 1>country clubs, you know, schools with big, expansive playgrounds and

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<v Speaker 1>wide windows. You know, all of the symbols of middle

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<v Speaker 1>class America. Something has happened, though, it to my community.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the past oh, I don't know, fifteen years, I

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<v Speaker 1>have watched as the community that I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>slowly goes on the decline where I see more and

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<v Speaker 1>more for lease signs that are in front of stores.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was pre pandemic. Right. We were one of

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the hardest hit areas during the foreclosure

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<v Speaker 1>crisis in the early auts, when you know, Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>bottomed down and millions of people across America lost their homes.

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<v Speaker 1>And during that time, I remember seeing just for sale

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<v Speaker 1>for sale, foreclosed, foreclosed, as I was driving from my

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<v Speaker 1>parents house to the train station. It became more and

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<v Speaker 1>more prominent. This weekend there was a news story, local

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<v Speaker 1>news story that kept recycling through. Five businesses in my

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<v Speaker 1>small town were hit by burglar. Right, white man broken

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<v Speaker 1>mask on stealing cash registers. Now, the other thing that

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<v Speaker 1>has happened in my neighborhood that I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>is the opioid crisis hit as well. And I only

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<v Speaker 1>call it a crisis because I'm just mimicking what mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>media says. I could give a fuck, and I'll be honest, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why it is because whenever white people

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<v Speaker 1>become addicted to substances, it is a crisis. Whenever black

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<v Speaker 1>people are flooded their communities are flooded with drugs, right

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<v Speaker 1>and they're being set up by police and set up

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<v Speaker 1>by the federal government, then we need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>war on drugs. This is why I say that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. It's not because I don't know people that

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<v Speaker 1>have been hurt by it. It's not because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know people that have lost loved ones because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is because I am tired of the double fucking

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<v Speaker 1>stamp and dirt in this country as it pertains to

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<v Speaker 1>people that are in neat I digress Burglaries have been

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<v Speaker 1>happening all around my small town, like literally on the

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<v Speaker 1>street right where my mother's yoga studio is in the

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<v Speaker 1>same development, there were two break ins. My mother says

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<v Speaker 1>to me over the weekend, Danielle, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening, Like it's starting to get really scary. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, mom, it is starting to get really scary.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I want to alert you to is that

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<v Speaker 1>things are actually going to get worse. You see, because

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<v Speaker 1>when people are popped up on drugs, right when people

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<v Speaker 1>are economically disadvantaged, they're working forty fifty sixty hours a

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<v Speaker 1>week and realizing that they still can't put food on

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<v Speaker 1>the table, that they can barely pay their mortgage, that

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<v Speaker 1>they're having to play three card monte right with their healthcare,

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<v Speaker 1>their home bills, their utilities, all of these things, because

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<v Speaker 1>they're just not making them enough to cover it. When

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<v Speaker 1>Congress is inactive, right inact, not doing anything to support

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<v Speaker 1>the actual economic disadvantaged people, right and just assuming that, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to cut off unemployment because so many Americans

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<v Speaker 1>are just sitting at home, because the assumption that our

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<v Speaker 1>politicians have about us is that we are fucking lazy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that we are undeserving of our own tax dollars back

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<v Speaker 1>to support us when we are most in need. Then

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<v Speaker 1>instead they want to give that money to CEOs and

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<v Speaker 1>shareholders in the forms of tax breaks that you and

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<v Speaker 1>I will never get because we don't have the teams

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<v Speaker 1>of lawyers and CPAs that are going to help us

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<v Speaker 1>navigate these huge loopholes that are available only to the rich.

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<v Speaker 1>And as this gap continues to widen, right, as we

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<v Speaker 1>see the rich continue to get richer and do their

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<v Speaker 1>little vacation jaunts to the edge of space. And then

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<v Speaker 1>as we see on the other side, as people lose

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<v Speaker 1>their businesses, lose their homes and they are just downward

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<v Speaker 1>spiraling into economic peril. You are going to see more

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<v Speaker 1>and more increased crime. That isn't because of what the

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<v Speaker 1>media and fucking cops want to feed you, which is that, oh,

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>we just need more cops because more cops keep us safe. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we need economic fucking opportunity. And I am watching it

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<v Speaker 1>happen and ravage my hometown because people are at a loss.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't continue at the same pace that they've been

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<v Speaker 1>going and are bringing home less fucking money. So the

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<v Speaker 1>break ins are going to become the norm. And right

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<v Speaker 1>now they are happening at night when nobody is in

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<v Speaker 1>these small businesses. But as people become more and more desperate,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck do you think is going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>We have an opportunity to pass major, major, robust legislation

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of the New New Deal for the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first century, to deal with the economic devastation that

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<v Speaker 1>we are in, and we have a Congress that is

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<v Speaker 1>just phoning it the fuck inn I'm right now reading

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<v Speaker 1>Fiona Hill's book and I told you guys about this

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<v Speaker 1>last week. There's nothing for you. Here is the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the book, and I got to tell you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just a few pages in and it is riveting. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is riveting because she talks about her own country's

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<v Speaker 1>economic crisis and how she ended up in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States and how we formed these rust belts, how we've

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>created a new knowledge based economy but didn't actually think

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<v Speaker 1>about the communities that were built up solely on industry,

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.439
<v Speaker 1>that were built up solely on manufacturing, and that we

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<v Speaker 1>created public school systems and curriculums that were only meant

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<v Speaker 1>to pipeline these people into those jobs that their parents

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<v Speaker 1>had and their grandparents had that were not about preparing

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.959
<v Speaker 1>them for the future. We are doing the same shit now.

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<v Speaker 1>We are preparing no one for anything other than a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime of indentured servitude and debt. And we have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask ourselves why and who is benefiting from this, because

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<v Speaker 1>those are the questions that are going to guide us

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<v Speaker 1>into this next chapter. And I'm telling you, folks, this

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<v Speaker 1>next chapter of America or America Ish is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a very very dark one. Coming up next, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>is my conversation with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel,

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<v Speaker 1>to unpack where we are with the latest COVID bands

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<v Speaker 1>on vaccinations, and also the latest with gun laws that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming to you next, folks. As always, I'm always so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to be joined by our friend in house, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Jonathan Metzel, who is joining us alive from New

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<v Speaker 1>York as opposed to on Vanderbilt's campus. Jonathan, First, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you? How are you doing? I'm great. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a beautiful day in pre armageddon United States. Wonderful. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have so many different armageddons pending. Which one

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about today? Is it? Is it COVID?

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Is it guns? Is it climate change? Is it the

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>civil war that's impending? You know what's on your mind? Well, first,

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<v Speaker 1>just for our audience, I love puppies and I love

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 1>fields of pretty flowers. I'm not all gloom and doom, um,

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, um, but I will say in what I study,

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>in what you and I talk about, and the world

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and the country right now, it's just unavoidable. And the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is the minute you relax about one issue, like

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<v Speaker 1>oh we put that fire out, there's some other really

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<v Speaker 1>crap thing coming down the pike, and this crowd thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be done the pike is a case that

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court is going to hear on November third

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<v Speaker 1>about basically on the docket our New York's gun laws.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a gun law on the book since nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen in New York, and basically New York basically says, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a crowded city. It's a New York state law,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're a crowded city. We've got lots of people

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<v Speaker 1>on the subway, in traffic, in bars and restaurants, So

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't want everybody carrying a gun because we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen how that worked out. And so since nineteen thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been a i think a very reasonable law in

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<v Speaker 1>the books, which basically says, if you want to carry

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<v Speaker 1>a gun in New York, you've got to demonstrate an

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<v Speaker 1>urgent need, not that you just kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you need a gun because somebody might carjack you or something,

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<v Speaker 1>but you need to demonstrate that you need it for

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<v Speaker 1>your job, that you're unsafe, that you're being stalked by

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>a partner, that you're you know, in law enforcement or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Then you can get a gun license.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's who since you know, for the last century,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much that's who's been able to carry New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Supreme Court now is saying, well, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>unconstitutional because anybody should be able to carry a gun

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<v Speaker 1>who feels like they need it, because this is America,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Second Amendment is that is as sacrosanc as

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the First Amendment. And so really what's on the docket

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>right now is overturning the right of cities like New York,

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, Boston, other places to limit to kind of

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>regulate who gets to carry a gun, which is going

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to lead to many, many more guns in urban areas

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>like this. And I've studied this for a long time.

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I've seen how this works out in other places. It

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>ain't good. But I feel like also places like New

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>York have a particular stake in this, just because the

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>whole vibe of New York is like much people, different

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>people moshing together on a subway car. That's the great

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>thing about New York. And when you start adding in

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>guns more guns to this mix, it just seems to

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>me catastrophic for the version of New York that we

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>all know. So basically, we are living in a Republican

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>wet dream and the rest of America's nightmare where we

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>have a virus that is still running rampant. We are

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>rolling back women's ability to have autonomy over their own body.

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>We have voters suppression laws that have been pushed out

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>all over the country, and now we want everyone as

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>well as who are economically unstable, to be able to

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 1>carry a gun. What's the worst thing that can happen, Jonathan,

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what a shootout on Fifth Avenue? I mean,

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, what is what is the logic behind

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the desire you think of this Supreme Court to just

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>make it so that America isn't as unsafe as possible,

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>while at the same time gas lighting the hell out

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>of us and telling us that they are not partisan

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>while sitting next to Mitch McConnell's speaking at Mitch McConnell's

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you know very conference, which is what Amy Covid Barrett did, like,

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:15.479
<v Speaker 1>I just we're not headed anywhere good. So what are

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>what are gun you know, gun um protection advocate? What

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>are they saying right now about this impending case for

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>November third and whatever happened to states rights and cities rights?

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought that that was one of the pillars of republicanism.

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that gone as well? Well? The pillar Republicanism is

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>whatever it takes, um. You know, it's not consistent. It's

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>just whatever we can do to own the libs basically,

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and so states rights, except we won't interfere with private

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>businesses except for when we want to overturn a COVID policy,

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, stuff like that. So nothing is consistent. It's

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>not like, oh, I mean Trump is a perfect symbol

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of this. It's not the no, the man has no ideal. Um.

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 1>It's all like whatever it takes to to get a

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>particular form of power. And so that's that's that's exactly

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>what this is, right, Um. And the hard part is

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the data is just overwhelming that cities and states that

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>within a country where you can control the flow of

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>guns the way you can control the flow of coronavirus

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I you can't. Um. But even then, cities and states

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that are able to you know, have some common sense

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>gun reform um, permit purchase, you know, purchase processes, background checks,

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>la flagh laws. It works, right, Those places have less

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>gun injury and death. And so what you're doing is

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you're you're taking the policies from the ship places and

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you're bringing them to the places that have reasonable places

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>so it's not just atturning states rights, it's taking bad

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>policies and and posing them on the places that I

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>have good policies. Now your question is really important because

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>there are two parts of it. On one hand, what

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>is a gun law in New York matter to somebody

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>in the South who most people have never been to

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.959
<v Speaker 1>New York? And I can say I've been doing interviews

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>for the past six months with people about this. And

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.719
<v Speaker 1>on one hand, New York represents like this ideal, like

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the liberal idea of a place where I can't go

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and carry my guns. You know, it's like this blue

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>state that is a restriction on my unfettered rights as

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>a white man to be able to pack heat and

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>something like that. So the idea of New York isn't

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>affront you know, it's an affront to this idea that

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>my gun rights should be, you know, as far as

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the I can see, you know, something like that. So

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>there's part of that. And then also there's a kind

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of racial logic I found when I talk to people

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that it was kind of like, well, there's all these

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>gang bangers and carjackers there, and of course I'd want

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>my gun, like they imagine these kind of racialized scenarios

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and then they imagine that they need guns in those scenarios,

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and so there's this kind of racial logic. Now again,

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the irony, of course, is none of these people have

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>been to New York. They you know, New York is

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>actually by far more relaxed than walking around a place

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>where there are a lot of guns, and so that's

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>part of the issue. But New York is particularly symbolic.

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>The fact that there's a there's a you know, a

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>century old New York law on the books is particularly

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>symbolic for this bigger war of kind of southern policies

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and coming to the North. So basically, right now we

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>have a Supreme Court that is going to overturn everything right,

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>that is going to overturn gun protection, that is going

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>to overturn women's rights, that is going to um they

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>are hearing a case on whether or not businesses are

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>able to mandate vaccines. Where, Jonathan, what's the end game here? Like?

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>What what what do you foresee as the end game

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>when you're doing these interviews with these you know, right wingers, Like,

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>what is what is their endgame? What is the goal

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>that they that they have? Well, I don't. I don't

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>think it's a it's not a mystery. The end game

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>is already living in places like Texas and Tennessee. Um.

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Un you know, unquestioned white GOP power that's that's in

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>place because of jerry mandering, um, which leads to incredible wealth,

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>inequity of every kind of inequity, like when you have

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of guns. It's not like everybody game shot.

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people go to gated communities and everybody

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>else has kind of left to fend for themselves and

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>so um and so look at Texas, look at look

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>at Tennessee. There's no way that minoritized communities are going

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>to ever get to say, there's no way that Democrats

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>are ever going to win an election because of the

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>because of the election cheating system that's in place. And

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>so I think what we're seeing is trying to instill

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>that over the entire country. M um. And you know,

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>so again, like I think that to me, it seems

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of obvious. I'm not obvious, but clear and transparent.

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not like we're imagining some world. It's it's

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>already existing. It just doesn't exist in blue states. And

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what's happening. What are your students say on your

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 1>campus about about what is happening right now? Like, I

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>just you know, I got to tell you that I

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>feel really deeply for young people. I feel really deeply

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>about what we are doing to this country, what we

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>are going to be handing over to them, which, in

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>my humble opinion, is a big pile of shit. Um,

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 1>We're giving them a climate crisis, We're giving them unfettered

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>gun laws. Where I mean unfettered you know, gun use, uh,

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>racial unrest, economic instability. What are they saying in your

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 1>classes as you're talking about you know, COVID in uh,

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, and the media as you're talking about you know,

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>mental health and gun laws? What is the what is

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the persistent kind of conversation that you all are having.

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>It's sad. I mean I asked my class thurday, how

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>many people feel like we're living in the end of days?

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And like I've two twos in my class, Like half

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of them raised their hands. You know, I feel so sad.

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's not just about that, you know, because they're

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of course very attuned to the climate. Like if you

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 1>were if you were nineteen years old right now and

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to imagine what climate's going to be like

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 1>fifty years from now. Like it's it's pretty scary, right,

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>and so they're trying to figure that out. The economy

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is weird, like all these supply chain issues and things

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:46.799
<v Speaker 1>like that. What does that mean? What's the future of

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>jobs of public safety? So, I don't know, it's weird.

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>There was this there was a study that came out

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>like a year ago. They basically looked at what's called

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>social capital. It said that society is that are going

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 1>to whether this pandemic the best or the ones where

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>more people feel like they're working to help other people,

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>that there's the most social cohesion, that there's like structures

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>in place where everybody can see, oh yeah, we're we're

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.919
<v Speaker 1>part of a national health service or we are part

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>of a you know, social safety net something like that.

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>So those places, I think it'll be interesting to see

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 1>their psychology. Now. Certainly have they have better health comes

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>from COVID, but I bet they have better psychological outcomes too.

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Of kind of we're in a good place because we're

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>all working together. I mean it's kind of an ideal,

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's you know, it's it's a lot different than

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.919
<v Speaker 1>what we're seeing in the US right now. So I think,

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's this all this literature social it's called

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>social capital, and we don't have a lot of it

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>to spend right now. Is there a difference between how

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>folks that you are interviewing in these conservative areas are

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>speaking about the current state of our country versus the

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>conversations that you were having on your campus right like,

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>because we are so, we are so in our corners

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and in our tribes right now, are you seeing a

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>through line in the anxiety and frustration and what does

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>that look like? Well, I'm doing a big project right

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>now that does kind of focus groups with different groups

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 1>of voters across the South that I'm interviewing liberals and

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Democrats and people from pretty much every demographic group in

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>separate groups. And I can't say, on one hand, there's

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>a ton of just suffering right now. People are suffering

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>from COVID, from financial insecurity, really, from a kind of tribalism.

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Tribalism is not that fun. You're living in a heightened

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>state of anxiety all the time, and so in that regard,

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 1>In that regard, I do think there's a tremendous amount

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>of just anome, you know, to think of Durkheim, this

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>sense of despair across our country right now. But I

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 1>will say that, just imagine if you were in a

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>group who your main things were you all you care

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>about is making abortion completely illegal, expanding Second Amendment, having

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 1>your political party to take power. So it's a pretty

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>heady time for people who are in the demographic that

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>is being benefited by all of these policies, by the

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>gerrymandering and stuff like that. So on their hand, especially

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>if you don't really believe in COVID, you feel like

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you're on the on the winning team, and so it

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>certainly is um you know, not everybody's experiencing this, this

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>dystopia in the same way. You know, Jonathan, do you

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>feel like there is a path forward? And I asked

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that not because you're a politician, you know, or anything,

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>but because you're a person that genuinely cares about understanding

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the other side, about figuring out you know, what may

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>takes them tick, right like why you know, why they

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>are willing to die of whiteness, why they're willing to

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>take down the country with them, Like we can't have

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>this lopsided democracy like it is It's just like, there's

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>only one way that I see this going. But I'm

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>curious as to what you think. Yeah, I think that too,

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, Um, yeah, I think we're in trouble now,

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and I think that. You know, it's it's hard because

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>the frustration is so it's just so everywhere right now, right,

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm frustrated. Maybe the deck was stacked against

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Biden from the first day, because it's hard to run

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>a presidency when you're governing a very razor thin, already

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>fractured coalition and the party before you is refusing to

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>even do anything. So it's certainly hard. I'm frustrated with

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats for for not coming together to figure out

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>some way to get some stuff done. I feel like

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna really they have some very serious consequences, and

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>then the issues themselves are very are very serious. And

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I don't know. I just I miss how

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I felt in June, which is like the pandemic year

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>exactly like this past Yune. It was like you know, eha, um,

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 1>but but I I don't, um, I don't know. It's

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's um, it's a TVD right now. You know.

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>The last question that I want to ask you, Um,

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>is about the pandemic um and is about the pandemic

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:55.399
<v Speaker 1>becoming endemic? Right? And at what when do when? When

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>does that become an actual thing? Right? Like people keep

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<v Speaker 1>saying it like this pandemic is just going to be around,

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<v Speaker 1>It is going to the COVID nineteen is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be endemic. It's going to be you know, a part

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<v Speaker 1>of our lives and our existence. At what threshold is

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<v Speaker 1>that the case threshold? Okay, yeah, we're there. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we thought before we could defeat There's some great there's

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<v Speaker 1>some great stuff on the horizon here. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are treatments for more. I mean the one I'm most

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<v Speaker 1>excited about. We can talk about it next week is

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<v Speaker 1>as stuff happening in at Vanderbilt UM, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of treatment that will give you sustained levels of antibodies.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think there are good things on the

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<v Speaker 1>horizon that will continue to make this. I mean, we're obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>in the pandemic sense, better off now than we were

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago. UM, But I don't know, Um, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's to see but but it is not going away.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but I also think again and imagine how

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<v Speaker 1>you felt before vaccines, before we had access to better masks,

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<v Speaker 1>before we knew more about the transmission patterns and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is just always it's always going to be changing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like their treatments on the horizon

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to continue to make this less of

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<v Speaker 1>an urgent threat than it is now. And if these

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<v Speaker 1>any of these long term antibody treatments end up working

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<v Speaker 1>that they really, to me at least, could be as

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<v Speaker 1>big of game changers as the vaccine. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then we will leave it there on that hopeful the

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<v Speaker 1>one hopeful note that we had this entire interview. As always, Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate your time, your analysis, and your insight so

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Take care everybody, and you know, just to

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<v Speaker 1>quote Monty Python, always look on the bright side of life.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is, but we will try. Okay,

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