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Speaker 1: Good morning, keeps in. Welcome to Okay f Daily with

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Speaker 1: Meet Your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from our podcast

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Speaker 1: studios here in Times Square. Folks, interesting news has been

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Speaker 1: popping up once again out of the state of Texas

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Speaker 1: because it seems that Governor Greg Abbott is on his

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Speaker 1: campaign to be the worst fucking governor in America. So

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Speaker 1: in a late in his latest right scheme, and let's

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Speaker 1: just be clear that Abbott is facing not one, but

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Speaker 1: two Republican challengers for the governorship, and so he feels

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Speaker 1: the need to compete to be the worst person in

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Speaker 1: this country. Not only has he banned abortions for women

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Speaker 1: being able to keep children safe. But now in his

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Speaker 1: latest move, he has decided to ban all vaccine mandates,

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Speaker 1: not just for state and government, not just for government workers, state, local,

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Speaker 1: and federal, but also for private businesses. The question that

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Speaker 1: I have is that I thought that Republicans were for

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Speaker 1: private business. I thought that they were for the privatization

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Speaker 1: of every fucking thing. So it's shocking to me that

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Speaker 1: now Abbott is coming in hot and heavy telling private

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Speaker 1: as he decides to sign this executive order that would

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Speaker 1: essentially why doesn't he just go one step further and

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Speaker 1: just ban vaccinations altogether? Right at the same time that

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Speaker 1: Texas has now swooped in for the lead of COVID

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Speaker 1: cases in the fucking country, this man himself has been

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Speaker 1: vaccinated and then on top of the vaccination, also caught COVID. Right,

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Speaker 1: so he understands, or should you think, understand the precarious

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Speaker 1: give a damn because the only thing that Greg Abbott

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Speaker 1: Right and right now, you have the people in Texas.

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Speaker 1: You have women in Texas and people in general in

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Speaker 1: Texas basically living in a developed nation. When you think

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Speaker 1: about the state of Texas right now, you think about

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Speaker 1: their voter suppression laws, Apparently democracy does not exist as

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Speaker 1: it's there. You think about their Roe v wade, their

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Speaker 1: you think to yourself, what the fuck is going on

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Speaker 1: in Texas? Because I'm waiting for the executive order when

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Speaker 1: they just decide to succeed, and I not succeed, but succeed.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I wouldn't miss Texas. I really wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck at this point. I would

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Speaker 1: love it if Florida, Texas and whatever other fucking middle

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Speaker 1: of hell type of place that is run by these inefficient,

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Speaker 1: ineffective executioners decide to do I'm like, fucking leave. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand at this stage in the game. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, and I don't really give a

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Speaker 1: damn because at this point I feel like I have

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Speaker 1: moved past no fucks given what comes after zero fucks?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I believe that I am there

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Speaker 1: because I no longer want to waste time convincing these

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Speaker 1: motherfuckers to get vaccinated. You want to die, go for it,

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Speaker 1: take yourself out. I don't care. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: convince you. I don't want mobile vaccine units into your

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Speaker 1: want to help yourself. I don't want to fucking help you.

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Speaker 1: You know. Here's the other thing too, When I think

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Speaker 1: about what's going on, because everybody and you know, our

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Speaker 1: friend doctor Jonathan Metzil will come on later and he

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Speaker 1: will tell me, Oh, Danielle know it matters, and we

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Speaker 1: should have empathy and we should care. But here's the

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Speaker 1: thing I stopped caring. I think that I stopped caring

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Speaker 1: about six months ago. You know, when the vaccines were

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Speaker 1: available to all people, right when they were at every

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Speaker 1: single fucking pharmacy. That there is not a community that

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Speaker 1: kind of fucking over it. I don't care anymore. Like

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Speaker 1: would like for my vaccine not to weigh out while

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Speaker 1: we try and get more of these people who are

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Speaker 1: not going to get fucking vaccinated. Right, So I'm saying

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Speaker 1: to them, dye in mass Let Darwinism take its fucking

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Speaker 1: course at this point, right, Less of them means better

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Speaker 1: for us, And I swear to God, I don't feel

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Speaker 1: bad about saying that. Not at this stage in the game.

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Speaker 1: We are, folks, nineteen months, nineteen god damn months into

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Speaker 1: this global health pandemic, and what we know to be

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Speaker 1: because of Republican governors like Greg Abbott and death Santis.

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Speaker 1: Is because of all of these motherfuckers that care nothing

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Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. I'm sick of everybody sitting on

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Speaker 1: the fucking fence at this point. Right. So the other day,

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Speaker 1: I'm on Long Island, right because I want to go

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a big difference if you are not

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Speaker 1: from New York. Let me lay it out for you.

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Speaker 1: There's a big difference between what happens in New York

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Speaker 1: Long Island, right, So let me paint this picture for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the suburbs and I decide I want to

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Speaker 1: go to home, Goods, right, Like, I want to go,

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Speaker 1: Why is that? Because we got a lot of fucking

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Speaker 1: the suburbs. So I roll up right mask on, because

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Speaker 1: into home Goods. Not ne'er a fucking person in this

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Speaker 1: this is fascinating. I go to the bagel store again.

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, Oh, is COVID done in Suffolk County?

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Speaker 1: Are we Is it finished? Did I not get the memo? Like?

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Speaker 1: I get that the rates in Suffolk County, which is

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Speaker 1: what have you. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: impeach misogynistic rapists, Islamophobic, transphobic, homophobic, piece of trash right.

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Speaker 1: And when I look and I see my family's neighbors

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Speaker 1: as well? Because I don't understand what you are trying

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Speaker 1: that you agree with racism, that you agree with prejudice.

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Speaker 1: doctors and scientists until all of a sudden you're bedridden

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Speaker 1: I swore an oath to do no harm, but you

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Speaker 1: I have reached a point where I know I don't

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Speaker 1: to help people get vaccinated. Fuck them. There are entire

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Speaker 1: countries like Haiti, Jamaica, underdeveloped places in South America, on

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Speaker 1: Let's conquer the global problem, right, because the wealthy nations,

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Speaker 1: This week, the FDA is hearing from Maderna and Johnson

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Speaker 1: on that front. Let me turn now to Columbus Day

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Speaker 1: for a moment, which folks earlier this week, I gotta

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Speaker 1: tell you, you know, I had half of my friends

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Speaker 1: There's been a gun law on the book since nineteen

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Speaker 1: thirteen in New York, and basically New York basically says, look,

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Speaker 1: we're a crowded city. It's a New York state law,

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Speaker 1: but we're a crowded city. We've got lots of people

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Speaker 1: on the subway, in traffic, in bars and restaurants, So

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Speaker 1: we just don't want everybody carrying a gun because we've

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Speaker 1: seen how that worked out. And so since nineteen thirteen,

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Speaker 1: there's been a i think a very reasonable law in

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Speaker 1: the books, which basically says, if you want to carry

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Speaker 1: a gun in New York, you've got to demonstrate an

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Speaker 1: urgent need, not that you just kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: you need a gun because somebody might carjack you or something,

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Speaker 1: but you need to demonstrate that you need it for

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Speaker 1: your job, that you're unsafe, that you're being stalked by

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Speaker 1: a partner, that you're you know, in law enforcement or

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Speaker 1: something like that. Then you can get a gun license.

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Speaker 1: And so that's who since you know, for the last century,

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Speaker 1: pretty much that's who's been able to carry New York,

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Speaker 1: and the Supreme Court now is saying, well, maybe that's

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Speaker 1: unconstitutional because anybody should be able to carry a gun

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Speaker 1: who feels like they need it, because this is America,

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Speaker 1: and the Second Amendment is that is as sacrosanc as

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Speaker 1: the First Amendment. And so really what's on the docket

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Speaker 1: right now is overturning the right of cities like New York,

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Boston, other places to limit to kind of

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Speaker 1: regulate who gets to carry a gun, which is going

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Speaker 1: to lead to many, many more guns in urban areas

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Speaker 1: like this. And I've studied this for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I've seen how this works out in other places. It

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Speaker 1: ain't good. But I feel like also places like New

459
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Speaker 1: York have a particular stake in this, just because the

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Speaker 1: whole vibe of New York is like much people, different

461
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Speaker 1: people moshing together on a subway car. That's the great

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Speaker 1: thing about New York. And when you start adding in

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Speaker 1: guns more guns to this mix, it just seems to

464
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Speaker 1: me catastrophic for the version of New York that we

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Speaker 1: all know. So basically, we are living in a Republican

466
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Speaker 1: wet dream and the rest of America's nightmare where we

467
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Speaker 1: have a virus that is still running rampant. We are

468
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Speaker 1: rolling back women's ability to have autonomy over their own body.

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Speaker 1: We have voters suppression laws that have been pushed out

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Speaker 1: all over the country, and now we want everyone as

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Speaker 1: well as who are economically unstable, to be able to

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Speaker 1: carry a gun. What's the worst thing that can happen, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what a shootout on Fifth Avenue? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, what is what is the logic behind

475
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Speaker 1: the desire you think of this Supreme Court to just

476
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Speaker 1: make it so that America isn't as unsafe as possible,

477
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Speaker 1: while at the same time gas lighting the hell out

478
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Speaker 1: of us and telling us that they are not partisan

479
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Speaker 1: while sitting next to Mitch McConnell's speaking at Mitch McConnell's

480
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Speaker 1: you know very conference, which is what Amy Covid Barrett did, like,

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Speaker 1: I just we're not headed anywhere good. So what are

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Speaker 1: what are gun you know, gun um protection advocate? What

483
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Speaker 1: are they saying right now about this impending case for

484
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Speaker 1: November third and whatever happened to states rights and cities rights?

485
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Speaker 1: I thought that that was one of the pillars of republicanism.

486
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Speaker 1: Is that gone as well? Well? The pillar Republicanism is

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes, um. You know, it's not consistent. It's

488
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Speaker 1: just whatever we can do to own the libs basically,

489
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Speaker 1: and so states rights, except we won't interfere with private

490
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Speaker 1: businesses except for when we want to overturn a COVID policy,

491
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Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. So nothing is consistent. It's

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Speaker 1: not like, oh, I mean Trump is a perfect symbol

493
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Speaker 1: of this. It's not the no, the man has no ideal. Um.

494
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Speaker 1: It's all like whatever it takes to to get a

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Speaker 1: particular form of power. And so that's that's that's exactly

496
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Speaker 1: what this is, right, Um. And the hard part is

497
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Speaker 1: the data is just overwhelming that cities and states that

498
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Speaker 1: within a country where you can control the flow of

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Speaker 1: guns the way you can control the flow of coronavirus

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Speaker 1: I you can't. Um. But even then, cities and states

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Speaker 1: that are able to you know, have some common sense

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Speaker 1: gun reform um, permit purchase, you know, purchase processes, background checks,

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Speaker 1: la flagh laws. It works, right, Those places have less

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Speaker 1: gun injury and death. And so what you're doing is

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Speaker 1: you're you're taking the policies from the ship places and

506
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Speaker 1: you're bringing them to the places that have reasonable places

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Speaker 1: so it's not just atturning states rights, it's taking bad

508
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Speaker 1: policies and and posing them on the places that I

509
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Speaker 1: have good policies. Now your question is really important because

510
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Speaker 1: there are two parts of it. On one hand, what

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Speaker 1: is a gun law in New York matter to somebody

512
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Speaker 1: in the South who most people have never been to

513
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Speaker 1: New York? And I can say I've been doing interviews

514
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Speaker 1: for the past six months with people about this. And

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Speaker 1: on one hand, New York represents like this ideal, like

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Speaker 1: the liberal idea of a place where I can't go

517
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Speaker 1: and carry my guns. You know, it's like this blue

518
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Speaker 1: state that is a restriction on my unfettered rights as

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Speaker 1: a white man to be able to pack heat and

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Speaker 1: something like that. So the idea of New York isn't

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Speaker 1: affront you know, it's an affront to this idea that

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Speaker 1: my gun rights should be, you know, as far as

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Speaker 1: the I can see, you know, something like that. So

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Speaker 1: there's part of that. And then also there's a kind

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Speaker 1: of racial logic I found when I talk to people

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Speaker 1: that it was kind of like, well, there's all these

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Speaker 1: gang bangers and carjackers there, and of course I'd want

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Speaker 1: my gun, like they imagine these kind of racialized scenarios

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Speaker 1: and then they imagine that they need guns in those scenarios,

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Speaker 1: and so there's this kind of racial logic. Now again,

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Speaker 1: the irony, of course, is none of these people have

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Speaker 1: been to New York. They you know, New York is

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Speaker 1: actually by far more relaxed than walking around a place

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Speaker 1: where there are a lot of guns, and so that's

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Speaker 1: part of the issue. But New York is particularly symbolic.

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Speaker 1: The fact that there's a there's a you know, a

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Speaker 1: century old New York law on the books is particularly

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Speaker 1: symbolic for this bigger war of kind of southern policies

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Speaker 1: and coming to the North. So basically, right now we

540
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: have a Supreme Court that is going to overturn everything right,

541
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Speaker 1: that is going to overturn gun protection, that is going

542
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Speaker 1: to overturn women's rights, that is going to um they

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Speaker 1: are hearing a case on whether or not businesses are

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Speaker 1: able to mandate vaccines. Where, Jonathan, what's the end game here? Like?

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Speaker 1: What what what do you foresee as the end game

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Speaker 1: when you're doing these interviews with these you know, right wingers, Like,

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Speaker 1: what is what is their endgame? What is the goal

548
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Speaker 1: that they that they have? Well, I don't. I don't

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00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: think it's a it's not a mystery. The end game

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Speaker 1: is already living in places like Texas and Tennessee. Um.

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Speaker 1: Un you know, unquestioned white GOP power that's that's in

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00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: place because of jerry mandering, um, which leads to incredible wealth,

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Speaker 1: inequity of every kind of inequity, like when you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of guns. It's not like everybody game shot.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people go to gated communities and everybody

556
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Speaker 1: else has kind of left to fend for themselves and

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Speaker 1: so um and so look at Texas, look at look

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Speaker 1: at Tennessee. There's no way that minoritized communities are going

559
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Speaker 1: to ever get to say, there's no way that Democrats

560
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Speaker 1: are ever going to win an election because of the

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Speaker 1: because of the election cheating system that's in place. And

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Speaker 1: so I think what we're seeing is trying to instill

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Speaker 1: that over the entire country. M um. And you know,

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00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: so again, like I think that to me, it seems

565
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: kind of obvious. I'm not obvious, but clear and transparent.

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Speaker 1: Like it's not like we're imagining some world. It's it's

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Speaker 1: already existing. It just doesn't exist in blue states. And

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening. What are your students say on your

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Speaker 1: campus about about what is happening right now? Like, I

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Speaker 1: just you know, I got to tell you that I

571
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: feel really deeply for young people. I feel really deeply

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Speaker 1: about what we are doing to this country, what we

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Speaker 1: are going to be handing over to them, which, in

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Speaker 1: my humble opinion, is a big pile of shit. Um,

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Speaker 1: We're giving them a climate crisis, We're giving them unfettered

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Speaker 1: gun laws. Where I mean unfettered you know, gun use, uh,

577
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Speaker 1: racial unrest, economic instability. What are they saying in your

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Speaker 1: classes as you're talking about you know, COVID in uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and the media as you're talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: mental health and gun laws? What is the what is

581
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Speaker 1: the persistent kind of conversation that you all are having.

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Speaker 1: It's sad. I mean I asked my class thurday, how

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Speaker 1: many people feel like we're living in the end of days?

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Speaker 1: And like I've two twos in my class, Like half

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Speaker 1: of them raised their hands. You know, I feel so sad.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just about that, you know, because they're

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00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: of course very attuned to the climate. Like if you

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Speaker 1: were if you were nineteen years old right now and

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Speaker 1: you're trying to imagine what climate's going to be like

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Speaker 1: fifty years from now. Like it's it's pretty scary, right,

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Speaker 1: and so they're trying to figure that out. The economy

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Speaker 1: is weird, like all these supply chain issues and things

593
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Speaker 1: like that. What does that mean? What's the future of

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Speaker 1: jobs of public safety? So, I don't know, it's weird.

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Speaker 1: There was this there was a study that came out

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Speaker 1: like a year ago. They basically looked at what's called

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Speaker 1: social capital. It said that society is that are going

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Speaker 1: to whether this pandemic the best or the ones where

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Speaker 1: more people feel like they're working to help other people,

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Speaker 1: that there's the most social cohesion, that there's like structures

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Speaker 1: in place where everybody can see, oh yeah, we're we're

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Speaker 1: part of a national health service or we are part

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Speaker 1: of a you know, social safety net something like that.

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Speaker 1: So those places, I think it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: their psychology. Now. Certainly have they have better health comes

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Speaker 1: from COVID, but I bet they have better psychological outcomes too.

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Speaker 1: Of kind of we're in a good place because we're

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Speaker 1: all working together. I mean it's kind of an ideal,

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Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's it's a lot different than

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing in the US right now. So I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's this all this literature social it's called

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Speaker 1: social capital, and we don't have a lot of it

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Speaker 1: to spend right now. Is there a difference between how

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Speaker 1: folks that you are interviewing in these conservative areas are

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Speaker 1: speaking about the current state of our country versus the

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Speaker 1: conversations that you were having on your campus right like,

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Speaker 1: because we are so, we are so in our corners

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Speaker 1: and in our tribes right now, are you seeing a

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Speaker 1: through line in the anxiety and frustration and what does

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Speaker 1: that look like? Well, I'm doing a big project right

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Speaker 1: now that does kind of focus groups with different groups

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Speaker 1: of voters across the South that I'm interviewing liberals and

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Speaker 1: Democrats and people from pretty much every demographic group in

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Speaker 1: separate groups. And I can't say, on one hand, there's

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Speaker 1: a ton of just suffering right now. People are suffering

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Speaker 1: from COVID, from financial insecurity, really, from a kind of tribalism.

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Speaker 1: Tribalism is not that fun. You're living in a heightened

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Speaker 1: state of anxiety all the time, and so in that regard,

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Speaker 1: In that regard, I do think there's a tremendous amount

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Speaker 1: of just anome, you know, to think of Durkheim, this

631
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Speaker 1: sense of despair across our country right now. But I

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Speaker 1: will say that, just imagine if you were in a

633
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Speaker 1: group who your main things were you all you care

634
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Speaker 1: about is making abortion completely illegal, expanding Second Amendment, having

635
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Speaker 1: your political party to take power. So it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: heady time for people who are in the demographic that

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Speaker 1: is being benefited by all of these policies, by the

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00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: gerrymandering and stuff like that. So on their hand, especially

639
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Speaker 1: if you don't really believe in COVID, you feel like

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Speaker 1: you're on the on the winning team, and so it

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Speaker 1: certainly is um you know, not everybody's experiencing this, this

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Speaker 1: dystopia in the same way. You know, Jonathan, do you

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Speaker 1: feel like there is a path forward? And I asked

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Speaker 1: that not because you're a politician, you know, or anything,

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Speaker 1: but because you're a person that genuinely cares about understanding

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Speaker 1: the other side, about figuring out you know, what may

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Speaker 1: takes them tick, right like why you know, why they

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Speaker 1: are willing to die of whiteness, why they're willing to

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Speaker 1: take down the country with them, Like we can't have

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Speaker 1: this lopsided democracy like it is It's just like, there's

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Speaker 1: only one way that I see this going. But I'm

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Speaker 1: curious as to what you think. Yeah, I think that too,

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Speaker 1: you know, Um, yeah, I think we're in trouble now,

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Speaker 1: and I think that. You know, it's it's hard because

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Speaker 1: the frustration is so it's just so everywhere right now, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm frustrated. Maybe the deck was stacked against

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Speaker 1: Biden from the first day, because it's hard to run

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Speaker 1: a presidency when you're governing a very razor thin, already

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Speaker 1: fractured coalition and the party before you is refusing to

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Speaker 1: even do anything. So it's certainly hard. I'm frustrated with

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Speaker 1: the Democrats for for not coming together to figure out

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Speaker 1: some way to get some stuff done. I feel like

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Speaker 1: that's gonna really they have some very serious consequences, and

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Speaker 1: then the issues themselves are very are very serious. And

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know. I just I miss how

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Speaker 1: I felt in June, which is like the pandemic year

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00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: exactly like this past Yune. It was like you know, eha, um,

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Speaker 1: but but I I don't, um, I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's um, it's a TVD right now. You know.

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Speaker 1: The last question that I want to ask you, Um,

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Speaker 1: is about the pandemic um and is about the pandemic

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Speaker 1: becoming endemic? Right? And at what when do when? When

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Speaker 1: does that become an actual thing? Right? Like people keep

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Speaker 1: saying it like this pandemic is just going to be around,

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Speaker 1: It is going to the COVID nineteen is going to

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Speaker 1: be endemic. It's going to be you know, a part

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Speaker 1: of our lives and our existence. At what threshold is

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Speaker 1: that the case threshold? Okay, yeah, we're there. I mean

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Speaker 1: we thought before we could defeat There's some great there's

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Speaker 1: some great stuff on the horizon here. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: are treatments for more. I mean the one I'm most

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Speaker 1: excited about. We can talk about it next week is

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Speaker 1: as stuff happening in at Vanderbilt UM, which is a

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Speaker 1: kind of treatment that will give you sustained levels of antibodies.

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Speaker 1: And so I think there are good things on the

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Speaker 1: horizon that will continue to make this. I mean, we're obviously,

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Speaker 1: in the pandemic sense, better off now than we were

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Speaker 1: a year ago. UM, But I don't know, Um, you know, well,

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Speaker 1: let's to see but but it is not going away.

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Speaker 1: But but but I also think again and imagine how

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Speaker 1: you felt before vaccines, before we had access to better masks,

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Speaker 1: before we knew more about the transmission patterns and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So this is just always it's always going to be changing.

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Speaker 1: But I do feel like their treatments on the horizon

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Speaker 1: that are going to continue to make this less of

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Speaker 1: an urgent threat than it is now. And if these

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Speaker 1: any of these long term antibody treatments end up working

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Speaker 1: that they really, to me at least, could be as

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Speaker 1: big of game changers as the vaccine. All right, well,

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Speaker 1: then we will leave it there on that hopeful the

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Speaker 1: one hopeful note that we had this entire interview. As always, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate your time, your analysis, and your insight so

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Speaker 1: very much. Take care everybody, and you know, just to

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Speaker 1: quote Monty Python, always look on the bright side of life.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but we will try. Okay,

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