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Speaker 2: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us again
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Speaker 2: I'm your favorite Shannon Sharp, He's your favorite, number eighty five.
Speaker 2: He says he's the greatest route runner. We debate that
Speaker 2: again at another day and time. Oh Joe, let's get right.
Speaker 3: Into it, sir.
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers do a demolition job on your
Speaker 2: Cowboys DAK fourteen or twenty four one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: nine yard, one hundred and fifty three yards, one touchdowns,
Speaker 2: three picks. The Cowboys finished with two hundred and eighteen
Speaker 2: yards of total offense.
Speaker 1: Take it away, I have a question. Now, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: flip the question back on you. Is this is this
Speaker 1: a testament to how great the forty nine defense is
Speaker 1: or how bad that the Cowboys play tonight?
Speaker 5: Which which way is it for you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no no no no no, just curre,
Speaker 2: because I've been I've been telling you all along. I said, Oh, cho,
Speaker 2: what happens to the Cowboys offense when the defense doesn't
Speaker 2: give them scooping scores? Right, and they don't give them
Speaker 2: picks in the offense and the specialty and the offense
Speaker 2: have to drive the ball, then what happens? We've seen
Speaker 2: them play, Oh, that's a historic defense. We've seen them
Speaker 2: play three NL offenses, the Giants, the Patriots, and the Jets,
Speaker 2: and they look like the eighty five Bears. We see
Speaker 2: them score play two teams and both teams got over
Speaker 2: twenty points, and they blew them out. The Cardinals blew
Speaker 2: them out. The Cardinals blew them out. The forty nine
Speaker 2: ers did a demolition job. Did any I've heard all week?
Speaker 2: The Cowboys pass rush their number one in pass rush
Speaker 2: wins the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3: The offensive line aren't that good?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: They love this matchup.
Speaker 2: Really, did anybody touch perty other than the coin toss
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the game, did anybody touch it?
Speaker 3: Listen?
Speaker 5: This is not fair?
Speaker 1: Is it a true test to the Cowboys on how
Speaker 1: good the Cowboys offense can be when they're playing one of,
Speaker 1: if not the best defense in NFL. And Fred Warner
Speaker 1: than boys just curious. Can can you do that? Can
Speaker 1: you say that?
Speaker 2: But if you are what you say, you are what
Speaker 2: you want to do, the best gotta beat the best.
Speaker 2: I want to see how good, how great I am
Speaker 2: by going up.
Speaker 3: Against that forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: The forty nine er say, we want to see how
Speaker 2: great we are by going up against that historically great
Speaker 2: Cowboys offense. They got CD they can run it with
Speaker 2: Pollard Ferguson, and they got cooked, and they got Michael
Speaker 2: Gallups and that great offensive line. Oh, they haven't played
Speaker 2: together since they drafted Tylers Smith in the first round.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be playing together. And what happened? O Joe again?
Speaker 3: You know what I said?
Speaker 2: The Cowboys have a problem once they get into the
Speaker 2: red zone score. The forty nine er say, we ain't
Speaker 2: gonna even let the ass in.
Speaker 3: The red zone. How about that? We ain't gonna let
Speaker 3: your foke gass in the red zone.
Speaker 1: The forty nine forty nine defense is amazing. It's a phenomenal.
Speaker 1: From the interior to the linebackers to the secondary. They
Speaker 1: not allowing nothing anything. You can't run the ball, you
Speaker 1: can't throw the ball. It's like it's like it's said
Speaker 1: I was trying to tell you that. Yeah, Well I
Speaker 1: never I never said nothing was wrong with the forty
Speaker 1: nine defense. I just felt that offensively that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will be able to show up. Regards to who they
Speaker 1: were playing tonight, it wasn't the case.
Speaker 5: It definitely wasn't the case.
Speaker 2: Look at the Cowboys against the Jets, the Giants and
Speaker 2: the Patriots, right when they don't get fourteen to twenty
Speaker 2: one points on pick six and scooping scores, when their
Speaker 2: special teams aren't giving them short fields, when they have
Speaker 2: to drive the ball, and the Cardinals don't have a
Speaker 2: great defense, but when you have to, when you can
Speaker 2: force Dak to make every throw, every possession, every down matter, Right,
Speaker 2: how did he look tonight? How did he look against
Speaker 2: the Cards?
Speaker 1: Is this is this a Dak problem or maybe a
Speaker 1: play calling problems?
Speaker 5: Because wait a minute, but.
Speaker 3: How many play colors you're gonna fire.
Speaker 2: You got rid of Jason Garrett, you got rid of
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore right now you're on your throat with so
Speaker 2: at what point in time there's a common denominator?
Speaker 5: But do you know what? I also saw the night?
Speaker 1: I saw the night we have one of the most
Speaker 1: prolific NFL receivers in CD Lamb. And I saw the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers be able to dictate no, no, not
Speaker 1: locked up. I saw no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not not locked up. I saw the Cowboys allow the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers to dictate whether or not he can
Speaker 1: be productive tonight.
Speaker 5: You can't have that happen.
Speaker 1: You can't have things like that happen when your best officer,
Speaker 1: playmaker is not getting the ball, and not getting the
Speaker 1: touch is necessary to give you off with the team
Speaker 1: a chance to win the game, or at least be
Speaker 1: in the game.
Speaker 2: Ward had him on house for rest. He couldn't come
Speaker 2: out the house. You know, goodwill. When you're on house
Speaker 2: and risk, you can't come out to the house after six o'clock.
Speaker 2: The foll me where you where they do that at?
Speaker 2: Let you out of the houseense six.
Speaker 5: They were bracketing him.
Speaker 1: You know, that's where the creativity comes in, the player
Speaker 1: understanding what they what they're gonna do to your best player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what that's all because they didn't play
Speaker 1: man the man until until until third down.
Speaker 3: I saw ward, I saw a ward had it locked up?
Speaker 5: You tell you talk about one player. I know that
Speaker 5: you talk about one player.
Speaker 3: I know how many players did he make? How many
Speaker 3: players did he make?
Speaker 5: He made a few of them.
Speaker 2: Holdo, if you get party to get beat forty two tens,
Speaker 2: ain't nobody make nothing. Ain't even nobody make breakfast, lunch, brunch, dinner.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody making nothing? They made a mess.
Speaker 5: Listen, COLWOI didn't play well.
Speaker 1: They didn't play well across across the board offensively, they
Speaker 1: didn't play well defensively. So who do you think the
Speaker 1: problem is? I would love I would love to hear
Speaker 1: from you. Who do you think the problem wasn't night?
Speaker 2: I think the problem is it is not so much. Look,
Speaker 2: I've been on record. There's a large sample size of
Speaker 2: what DAK is. Now, if you think DAK if anything
Speaker 2: more than that, you're fooling yourself now, because what have
Speaker 2: you seen what have you seen? I mean, what did
Speaker 2: your eyes see? You don't see? You the type of
Speaker 2: guy that don't want to believe what your eyes tell you. Right,
Speaker 2: your eyes tell you that Dak is an average quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's what your eyes tell you. But why would't you
Speaker 2: believe what your eyes tell you?
Speaker 5: Dak is an average quarterback? Yes?
Speaker 3: Average?
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Cowboys in the playoffs last year? Yes,
Speaker 1: were the Cowboys and they lost to wait a minute,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys where the Cowboys in the playoffs the year
Speaker 1: before that? Yes, So an average quarterback is getting this
Speaker 1: team and giving the chance, giving his team a chance
Speaker 1: at contention.
Speaker 5: For a Lombardy Trophy. And that's what you call an average.
Speaker 2: Because nobody has drafted more Pro Bowl players outside of
Speaker 2: Kansas City in the last decade.
Speaker 3: So they have immense talent. They have two.
Speaker 2: Guys on the offensive line that's going to the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame. You're right guard to your left tackle. They
Speaker 2: got Michael Parsons. They've done a tremendous job. Ceedee lamb.
Speaker 2: Those are drafted player. Tony Pollard a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, and you said
Speaker 2: he got them to the playoffs, and then what happens
Speaker 2: come playoff times. They played this team last year, they
Speaker 2: played this team the year before. Now tell the people
Speaker 2: that didn't have television or they didn't watch the tell
Speaker 2: them what happened every year. What does that do in
Speaker 2: situations like this? What does Dak presscott do?
Speaker 5: Interception? Interception?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Remember, now a guy lost his job, Kellen Moore lost
Speaker 2: his job the offensive coordinator. They would if you look
Speaker 2: at Cowboys offense since he took over the play colleague,
Speaker 2: they were one or two in the entire league over
Speaker 2: the last three to four years. He lost his job
Speaker 2: because Dak kept turning the ball over in big games
Speaker 2: and in playoffs. Now here come a big game again,
Speaker 2: and what did that do?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: I think this is it's a big game. It's a
Speaker 1: game that matters, but it's not. It's a small symb
Speaker 1: size on what we need to do, well, what they
Speaker 1: need to do. Going back to the drawing board, So
Speaker 1: this doesn't happen later on in the season, because they're
Speaker 1: going to be in contention, they're going to be in
Speaker 1: the playoffs again, They're going to meet each other again.
Speaker 1: And when they do meet each other again, they don't
Speaker 1: want the same thing that happened tonight.
Speaker 5: That happened again.
Speaker 2: But okay, you say the Cowboys need to make the
Speaker 2: necessary corrections. Okay, Dak come in playoff time. You've seen
Speaker 2: Dak in the playoffs. He's never gotten this team plays
Speaker 2: to the divisional round. He's never won more than one
Speaker 2: playoff game in the regular season and normally when they
Speaker 2: lose the game, why did they lose the game?
Speaker 3: Oh Jo, how does Dak plays?
Speaker 2: Can you say Dak has played well with the exception
Speaker 2: and even in the Green Bay game his first one
Speaker 2: as a rookie. Outside of that game, can you say,
Speaker 2: you know what, man, the Cowboys defense let him down,
Speaker 2: or can you go back and say, man, Dak threw
Speaker 2: two picks or the offense didn't do this? Because remember
Speaker 2: last year they held forty nine ers to what twenty
Speaker 2: points and the Cowboys scored twelve. Last year the year
Speaker 2: before that, they got twenty three and the Cowboys scored
Speaker 2: what sixteen? So we keep hearing about this. See just
Speaker 2: the way I measure greatness on an offense.
Speaker 3: In the defense, can.
Speaker 2: You go get done what you need to get done
Speaker 2: when you absolutely have to get it done. If you
Speaker 2: a great defense on third down, can you go get
Speaker 2: them off the field.
Speaker 3: Can you do that?
Speaker 2: If it's third down, can you go get a first
Speaker 2: down to make sure their hot fins don't get back
Speaker 2: on the field. Or you keep matriculating the ball down
Speaker 2: the field and getting field goal range, or get a touchdown.
Speaker 2: That's the sign of greatness. See you scoring one hundred points.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me nothing because I need to see. Can
Speaker 2: you go get twenty five when you have to? And
Speaker 2: it's a nip tuck ball game? Now, what have you
Speaker 2: seen through five games this year? When the Cowboys need it?
Speaker 2: Can they get it?
Speaker 1: You know, everything for the Cowboys this season has really
Speaker 1: been defense. Has been defense? Isn't been defense? And that
Speaker 1: that is what has been bailing them out offensively, They
Speaker 1: hadn't really been scoring the points that they need to.
Speaker 1: Now listen to me, I'm witching when you're right, that's
Speaker 1: one thing about it.
Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not gonna argue a fight with you
Speaker 5: about what I can.
Speaker 1: See because I seen the eye tests done the eye test.
Speaker 5: I can see. But but listen, it's early in the season.
Speaker 1: We at the quarter pole. We got a long way
Speaker 1: to go. The regular season will always go well for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. How do we fix the mistake? I keep
Speaker 1: saying we how do they? How do they fix the mistakes?
Speaker 1: So when you get to the postseason you don't end
Speaker 1: up with the same results as always. The quarterback play,
Speaker 1: the quarterback play from Dak has been phenomenal on from
Speaker 1: an interception standpoint, bad perspective, he's fixed that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this year until tonight.
Speaker 1: Now tonight, it was very unfortunate where you're having your
Speaker 1: your your behind and you're putting yourself in position.
Speaker 5: Where you have to throw the ball. You have to
Speaker 5: throw the ball.
Speaker 3: Yes, what was the other game that he threw the
Speaker 3: interception in?
Speaker 5: It was only one Arizona. It was only on Arizona.
Speaker 2: And why did you throw that an interception? Because they
Speaker 2: were behind and the possessions matter the.
Speaker 3: Matter.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know what you do, you know
Speaker 1: what you do where it's easier defensively when the team
Speaker 1: is behind it. You know they have to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is play back. You just
Speaker 1: with that and keep everything in front of you. That's
Speaker 1: what makes it so much easier when you have to
Speaker 1: play from behind for a defense.
Speaker 2: How much how much easier is to play quarterback when
Speaker 2: your defense gives your twenty one and your special teams
Speaker 2: give you short fields.
Speaker 3: How much easier to play quarterback then?
Speaker 1: I mean, once you got that short field, you would
Speaker 1: think you would think it's much easier to score and
Speaker 1: put up points.
Speaker 3: Oh you think so.
Speaker 2: So go back and look at what they did to
Speaker 2: get the Cowboys defense to get against the Giants. Go
Speaker 2: back and look at what they did against the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Go back and look at what they did against the Jets.
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, when they couldn't get picked
Speaker 2: sixes and they couldn't get scooping scores, and the special
Speaker 2: teams didn't set up short fields, look at what they
Speaker 2: did against Arizona, and look at what they did against
Speaker 2: the forty nine if Dak still passed, because you remember
Speaker 2: the guy asked him, ask him about the forty nine
Speaker 2: ers last year, and Dak said he was pissed out, said,
Speaker 2: you trying to piss me off. Now, last season they
Speaker 2: lost in the playoffs nineteen to twelve. The Cowboys defense
Speaker 2: gave up nineteen points. In today's game, you hold a
Speaker 2: team on the twenty, you're supposed to win that game.
Speaker 2: The previous year they gave up they lost twenty three
Speaker 2: to seventeen.
Speaker 3: Tonight it's forty two teen. Now. I don't know about you,
Speaker 3: but it's going in the wrong direction.
Speaker 5: It's going in the wrong direction. But again, it's week five.
Speaker 5: It's wee fire. You know that. You know that, And
Speaker 5: there's some of.
Speaker 1: The hard that you saying the games will be closer
Speaker 1: later on in the season. I'm later on on the
Speaker 1: back end of the season, you know, especially postseason time,
Speaker 1: the games are gonna be much closer. You're not blowing
Speaker 1: nobody out. No forty goddamn ten, forty two to ten
Speaker 1: for that matter.
Speaker 2: That last three games against the forty nine ers, he
Speaker 2: has three touchdowns and six iron t's.
Speaker 3: Can I interest you in that? Can you win? Can
Speaker 3: you win with those stats?
Speaker 5: You can't win with those stats.
Speaker 1: But what we're doing is we're taking away the greatness
Speaker 1: of what the forty nine ers defense is, or a
Speaker 1: team in general.
Speaker 2: But you've been telling me for the first four weeks
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are great. So it's two greats against one.
Speaker 2: It's two greats going to ooh.
Speaker 1: I don't recall ever seeing the Cowboys are great. I said,
Speaker 1: I said the Cowboys were good. I said the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are a good team that were being they know it's
Speaker 1: their America team. Their brand sells itself. Jerry sells the
Speaker 1: brand of America's team and then being great asself.
Speaker 5: I don't have to do it.
Speaker 2: How about this, let's let's give the Let's talk about
Speaker 2: some of the forty nine ers, because what they're able
Speaker 2: to do. Kyle Shanahan, he does, he does so much
Speaker 2: with debo, he does so much without you, Kitdle And
Speaker 2: how many guys you how many fullbacks are.
Speaker 3: They gonna run a Texas route within.
Speaker 2: He's throwing the ball to his fullback, he's putting McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: It's it's so hard to because you gotta you gotta
Speaker 2: defend every blade of grass.
Speaker 3: Because Brock Purdy is not afraid.
Speaker 2: He's unafraid to throw the ball to anybody that hells
Speaker 2: an eligible number. And when you got big seventy one,
Speaker 2: they made a mistake. I would have never put Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: I'm never putting my best pass rusher on Trent Willie
Speaker 2: because you're neutralizing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done. Because now I can slide.
Speaker 5: I can.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go rip all day. I'm going rip all day.
Speaker 5: You left side is taken care of over.
Speaker 3: It's over. It's over.
Speaker 2: So you so you're wasting your best pass rusher trying
Speaker 2: to go against him.
Speaker 3: I'm living.
Speaker 2: Look, I understand that you try to get Michael on
Speaker 2: his blind side, but you knew that. You do understand
Speaker 2: that guy's a ten time pro bowler. That's protecting the
Speaker 2: blind side. So that is I mean, that's not the
Speaker 2: blind side of the movie. That's a real protector back there.
Speaker 2: So see he the real deal.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 2: But the forty nine ers unbelieving because they can run it,
Speaker 2: they can throw it. You could great run out of
Speaker 2: the catch. Kittle had an outstanding game debo with sensational
Speaker 2: McCaffrey again, got the ball in the end zone, he
Speaker 2: coughed it up. He's gonna be kicking himself because that
Speaker 2: game was about to get out of hand.
Speaker 3: It was really about to get out of hand.
Speaker 2: It ended up getting out of hand on Joe, but
Speaker 2: it was about to get out of hand a lot sooner.
Speaker 3: Than what it did.
Speaker 1: I think it's almost unfair when I when I thought
Speaker 1: about it watching the game, and I felt bad for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensively and defensively. Why because I'm when I
Speaker 1: thought about it, it almost seemed unfair that the team
Speaker 1: that the forty nineers have constructed, And all I could
Speaker 1: think about was, in basketball terms, the Warriors. When the
Speaker 1: Warriors had Kevin Durant, they had steps and they had clay.
Speaker 1: It's like it shoot us all over the place. And
Speaker 1: then you have someone like Shanahan with the creativity that
Speaker 1: he has and call him plays and being able to
Speaker 1: put the ball in brock Party's hands and understand, I
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about him throwing interceptions.
Speaker 5: He's always going to be easy. He's always gonna get
Speaker 5: the ball.
Speaker 1: The ball is coming out on all time and rouse
Speaker 1: putting it right in between the numbers and everything is working.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing about it is when McCaffrey is
Speaker 1: hidding and he's on fire, it makes the passing game
Speaker 1: that much easier.
Speaker 5: So it's like, how do you stop that?
Speaker 1: Who has the personnel in the NFL to stop that,
Speaker 1: that can stop the run, that can stop the screenplays,
Speaker 1: the smoke routes, and be able to defend the short,
Speaker 1: intermediate and long balls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to press your party. You gotta make it.
Speaker 2: You got to put him in a situation where he
Speaker 2: has to play, because what if you notice they did
Speaker 2: take everything, yes and when and as long as you're
Speaker 2: allowing Kyle to dictate, you gotta uphill, you gotta uphill climb. Now,
Speaker 2: Kyle knows uh, dan Quinn, he was his offensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: so he knows what he likes to run. He knows
Speaker 2: what he likes to do, and he got the personnel.
Speaker 2: He has one offensive lineman that can neutralize. So now
Speaker 2: we can take our full back and chip his way out.
Speaker 2: We can take our tight end chip his way out
Speaker 2: and so, and that'll give the right guard.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 2: But they did an outstanding job with the pass rush
Speaker 2: of protecting Bertie. But if you look at on his
Speaker 2: anticipatory skills, Oh Joe, the way he throws the ball
Speaker 2: when that receiver outside foot hits the ball and he's
Speaker 2: gonna run the dagger around or he's gonna run any
Speaker 2: that ball is gone.
Speaker 3: So by the time he gets to the middle, he hit,
Speaker 3: he hit. I think it was I U.
Speaker 5: Yes, I know exactly what you may talking about.
Speaker 1: It came right off the back of head.
Speaker 5: I know what you're talking about. You can do beautiful,
Speaker 5: nothing you can do.
Speaker 2: I mean this this was a This was a This
Speaker 2: was a clinic last night, I mean tonight, rock Party
Speaker 2: seventy seventeen.
Speaker 3: Or twenty four, two fifty two, four.
Speaker 2: Touchdowns, nine touchdowns this season, zero picks nine point three
Speaker 2: yards or ten for me. I know, he doesn't have
Speaker 2: the gotty numbers like a Tool, but he has entered
Speaker 2: the MVP discussion.
Speaker 1: You know what, he doesn't have the gotty numbers like
Speaker 1: Tour because he doesn't have the type of personnel that
Speaker 1: Tour has to work with. Like that's they got a
Speaker 1: fall by one team out there in Miami. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: have a fallout one team out here in Miami, in
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. What they have is a bunch
Speaker 1: of dudes that put on their construction hat and they
Speaker 1: come to work and they gonna chip.
Speaker 5: They're gonna chip you to death all the way down
Speaker 5: the field, all the way down the field.
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep on hammering and keep on hammering to
Speaker 1: get the job done. I damn Miami, Listen, they're gonna
Speaker 1: jump in there.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins play the forty nine Yeah, the Dolphins played
Speaker 2: the forty nine er. Yeah, that's gonna be a matchup.
Speaker 5: A great match.
Speaker 3: I canna be a match up.
Speaker 2: A great match can be a batch up because the
Speaker 2: thing because what we Buffalo kind of gave you the
Speaker 2: blueprint of how to deal.
Speaker 3: With the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pressure tour, Yeah yeah, get him off the spot.
Speaker 2: If you let him off the spot, if you let
Speaker 2: him have time.
Speaker 5: He's gonna kill you.
Speaker 2: But you got But the problem that they have is
Speaker 2: that you got to stop the run because a chain.
Speaker 1: I have a question, is he the closest thing we
Speaker 1: have seen in Chris Johnson or Jamal Charles in a
Speaker 1: long time? Or is it is that a fair assessment
Speaker 1: or my tripping Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, he's a He's a There have been
Speaker 2: very few running back that I could that you can
Speaker 2: look back and say, you know what, he's a threat
Speaker 2: to hit his head on the gold force every time
Speaker 2: he touched the ball.
Speaker 3: He know, he really is.
Speaker 2: I mean, oht you have the dude got one hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty one hundred and forty yards on ten carriage.
Speaker 2: That's that's college, that's high school. You don't do that
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Remember he goes for two oh three
Speaker 2: on like less than twenty carries against the Broncos. He
Speaker 2: has seven eight carris against a Buffalo four hundred and one,
Speaker 2: So he's put together the one hundred yard games and
Speaker 2: he might have forty Carris and got damn.
Speaker 5: Got over four hundred yards aready?
Speaker 3: That's crazy?
Speaker 2: And then you got you got Reek out there, and
Speaker 2: you got Wattle, and you got Barrios and you got
Speaker 2: the tight man. I mean, they're they're loaded, but it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a great matchup.
Speaker 3: But I was very impressed. I think forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: I've had the forty nine ers number one on my
Speaker 2: power ranking. They did nothing to disappoint me to say
Speaker 2: I should move.
Speaker 5: Them down number one. Yeah, and you're power ringing for
Speaker 5: NFC teams, you mean, oh, you mean a total overall?
Speaker 3: Overall? They're number one for me over the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: How did they leave frog the Chiefs?
Speaker 2: Like that?
Speaker 5: Just curious?
Speaker 2: Yeah, See, I throw last year out the way that
Speaker 2: we're starting this year.
Speaker 5: Okay, we started all.
Speaker 2: Over all over you think right now, you think, right
Speaker 2: now the Chiefs are a better team than the Niners
Speaker 2: right now as we.
Speaker 3: Sit here and talk.
Speaker 1: If you want to go that route, If you think
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are not better than the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: right now, then how did you leave frog?
Speaker 5: The forty nine is over the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just I'm leaked for I'm not leap wronging them.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying my eye tests. I'm watching these teams.
Speaker 2: I'm watching everybody play. Right now, you watched everybody, and
Speaker 2: I understand the Eagles are five and oh if people
Speaker 2: you got you got the Eagles under forty nine ers? Yes,
Speaker 2: I do, because what is the test? That's because at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, until they play each other.
Speaker 2: But right now, what did your eyes?
Speaker 1: The eye test tells me that the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: are a great football team and there is no weakness.
Speaker 1: But then when you look at the Eagles, the Eagles
Speaker 1: are a great football team with no weakness and with
Speaker 1: no weakness.
Speaker 5: And if the Eagles and the forty.
Speaker 1: Nine ers are to play, the personnel, the personnel that
Speaker 1: the Eagles have, I think will be better suited to
Speaker 1: play the forty nine ers than any other team in
Speaker 1: the NFL, any other team because of the sympom the
Speaker 1: personnel they have, especially that interior in tier they had
Speaker 1: to work with.
Speaker 2: Oh, because both of both because both of them have
Speaker 2: great D line and old line. Uh, because you go
Speaker 2: on D line, you go Jalen Carter and you go
Speaker 2: Fletcher Cors and you go sweat, you go those guys
Speaker 2: Brandon Graham, So that would that would be a great matchup.
Speaker 2: Let's turn to the AFC Chiefs Dolphin, Bengals. Chiefs Dolphin,
Speaker 2: the Bengals they win, Bill's Raven lose. Let's start with
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. First looked like Travis Kelcey aboarded a major injury.
Speaker 2: I thought it was something really really serious too, because
Speaker 2: he had the way he planted and he just gave
Speaker 2: himself up. So I'm like, oh, please, don't let it
Speaker 2: be and you know, you know, he was like damn it.
Speaker 3: But they win.
Speaker 2: Mahmes thirty one forty one two touchdowns. What was the
Speaker 2: big takeaway for you in that game?
Speaker 1: Big to take away from me in that game is
Speaker 1: when you have somebody like Patrick Mahomes, when you have
Speaker 1: arguably the best player, one of the best players they
Speaker 1: ever played a position, it makes everyone else's job so
Speaker 1: much easier, regardless of the circumstance, regardless of what's going on,
Speaker 1: regardles to who goes out and who comes in. He
Speaker 1: reminds me of that piece that they had in New
Speaker 1: England at one point who played there for twenty years. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: no matter who comes in, there's one piece of that
Speaker 1: posal that will always remain the same and will always
Speaker 1: give you a chance, no matter what's around him. And
Speaker 1: that was Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, and he showed that
Speaker 1: again today again today you have.
Speaker 2: When you have that guy. I played with a guy,
Speaker 2: John with my John Elway, my quarterback. When you have
Speaker 2: that guy, even from a defensive standpoint, you know, even
Speaker 2: if we're down ten, we're down fourteen, we got a chance.
Speaker 2: All we got to do is get a stop, we score,
Speaker 2: we get another stop, give the ball back to seven.
Speaker 2: That's what Brady built. Brady would play bad the entire.
Speaker 5: Game, except when it counted.
Speaker 2: He needs, he needs two drives in order to get
Speaker 2: his team a win.
Speaker 3: Oh you about with book?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you book it.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing about it is those are pressure situations,
Speaker 1: and for some reason, certain quarterbacks like Mahomes braid the airway,
Speaker 1: Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers. It's a small select view that
Speaker 1: always rises the occasion and what we would consider as
Speaker 1: even as a former athlete, pressure situations. And I think
Speaker 1: that's a bad thing for other quarterbacks on other teams
Speaker 1: because you hold them to such a high standard that
Speaker 1: you expect that type of play consistently out of them
Speaker 1: like we do the great ones, and that that's really
Speaker 1: not that's really not the makeup in the landscape of
Speaker 1: everybody at the position in the NFL, and at at
Speaker 1: times that thing is not fair and not fair.
Speaker 2: Boy, they better be glad mahon boy didn't get de hopped.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if he had a true number one receiver.
Speaker 5: That that would have been nasty. That would have been nasty.
Speaker 1: That that that would have been nasty.
Speaker 3: The Dolphins hammered the Giants.
Speaker 2: The Giants passed the two thousand rams as the most
Speaker 2: yards through five games. Devon a Chan had one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty one yards on eleven carries. The Dolphins had
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty two rush yards on the day.
Speaker 2: Tua continues, he's stealing the lead form my MVP twenty
Speaker 2: two or thirty three h eight two touchdowns, two interceptions,
Speaker 2: tyreek nine for a buck eighty one another touchdown.
Speaker 3: What did you like about the Giant? What? Excuse me?
Speaker 5: What did you like about the Dolphins being able.
Speaker 1: To pick up where they left off knowing that what
Speaker 1: happened against the Bills, that wasn't them.
Speaker 5: That wasn't them again, And I just talked to you.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about we talked about how well
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are playing. Yes, this is what
Speaker 1: I say with the Dolphins. When you play against the
Speaker 1: team that knows your tendencies, that has a personnel to
Speaker 1: stop you, you're not playing against the Bills every week,
Speaker 1: weekend and week out.
Speaker 5: I think what we saw from the Dolphins today, they
Speaker 5: will be.
Speaker 1: Able to execute in that manner against any and everybody
Speaker 1: else they play that is not part of their division. Yes,
Speaker 1: any and everybody, anybody outside of the outside.
Speaker 5: Of the Bills. And you know, I don't think the
Speaker 5: Jets have anything to stop them.
Speaker 2: And yeah, because I don't think the just can put
Speaker 2: enough fear in them offensively.
Speaker 5: No, No, New England doesn't have enough to stop him.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: So that was that was beautifrom them, beautiful from them,
Speaker 1: especially that the running game is going well, Tyreek waldall
Speaker 1: catching passes, Barrios is catching passes on third downs, keeping
Speaker 1: the chains moving, Like, what do you do with you?
Speaker 5: How do you stop that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean this game would have really got out of
Speaker 2: hand had two or not throwing those two bad interceptions
Speaker 2: because the Giants scored their first touch The Giants have
Speaker 2: yet to score through five weeks an offensive touchdown in
Speaker 2: the first half. They got their own loan touchdown this
Speaker 2: year in the first half on one hundred and two.
Speaker 3: Yard pick six.
Speaker 2: I saw something today, and you can take this how
Speaker 2: we want to people out there listening. I don't think
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is a very good quarterback, but it's offensive
Speaker 2: line is worse at blocking than he is at quarterback.
Speaker 2: And now you got a match made in hell. I'm
Speaker 2: paying him forty million dollars if we can finish the
Speaker 2: season up right. I mean, because I watched, and I
Speaker 2: watched this game very closely day Ochoe Ocho was watching
Speaker 2: that man take three steps, his back foot hit and
Speaker 2: the guy hittinghim in the back of his ear.
Speaker 1: Every time I tweeted it out, I tweeted out. At
Speaker 1: some point, I tweeted out, oh my goodness, they gonna
Speaker 1: get Damn Jones hurt. And right after my tweet, everybody
Speaker 1: send me, oh, Daniel Jones just went out. They were
Speaker 1: hitting him upside the head over and over. You can
Speaker 1: only take You could only take so much punishment for
Speaker 1: so long.
Speaker 5: We only in week five, man we only in week five.
Speaker 3: Hello, think about what you said there.
Speaker 2: You're in week five and the Giants have allowed thirty
Speaker 2: sacks already.
Speaker 3: So let's go. Okay, you go.
Speaker 2: To ten that's sixty. You go to fifteen games, that's ninety.
Speaker 2: So you tell me what quarterback they could have. They
Speaker 2: coulda have to have an eight man roster with just quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: because I ain't no quarterback gonna be able to you
Speaker 2: think a quarterback can take that many hits.
Speaker 3: I'm saying sacked.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying how many times they've been hit, right,
Speaker 2: I'm saying the Giants have allowed thirty sacks, So.
Speaker 3: How many hits have they allowed?
Speaker 2: That's I feel you know what bro like I said,
Speaker 2: I feel bad for the man because that's what that's
Speaker 2: what they're.
Speaker 3: Paying it for.
Speaker 1: How about this, how about maybe he's not that bad
Speaker 1: of a quarterback, but the fact that he continues to
Speaker 1: get hit so much, gets sacked so much, it takes
Speaker 1: away from his ability to actually play the position at
Speaker 1: its highest level. Because of that, I'm should I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I'm not taking I'm asking.
Speaker 2: No that that might be the case, But I think
Speaker 2: what he should do is find out what the Minnesota
Speaker 2: Viking's favorite charity is and donate some money because they
Speaker 2: got him paid. What he did in that playoff game
Speaker 2: that got in paid. Oh Joe, that's what got in paid.
Speaker 2: One game. They disregarded everything that they had sold up
Speaker 2: until that point and said, you know what, this is
Speaker 2: who he can be moving forward. So but you pay.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like I'm worth I'm worth forty million dollars.
Speaker 2: But I live in a the lap Data building, and
Speaker 2: I wonder why I got I got I Got'm breathing
Speaker 2: in mold and it's best does in rats are walking?
Speaker 3: Look at it?
Speaker 2: Offensive line? That offensive line is terrible, Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 5: It's it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: It's very it's very unfunctional, especially especially today today's showing,
Speaker 1: especially after Evan Neil came out and said what he said.
Speaker 1: And to have a day like to have a daylight
Speaker 1: to day, you know, and where your quarterback goes out,
Speaker 1: your quarterback goes out and he leaves a game with
Speaker 1: the injury like pride, pride alone, pride in itself should
Speaker 1: should have you blocking anything trying to get to him.
Speaker 2: The Giants offenser line, but they shouldn't even talk. They
Speaker 2: should hold up QW cards say we're not going to
Speaker 2: talk until we win a game. I mean, y'all getting
Speaker 2: that man hit. They hitting that man everywhere but the
Speaker 2: bottom of his feet. They hit him like you said.
Speaker 2: They hit him side his head, They hit him in
Speaker 2: his back, They hit him in his ass, They hit
Speaker 2: him in his thigh ankles. The only thing he didn't
Speaker 2: get hit with his clee soo bottle bus feet.
Speaker 5: What do you do? What's the answer?
Speaker 1: Because Tyrod Taylor came in. He tried to do what
Speaker 1: he could. He tried to move the ball, tried to
Speaker 1: move it officially, and.
Speaker 3: They hammered.
Speaker 5: And listen, Tyrod was getting hit.
Speaker 3: You you know, you know Tyrod come to the game
Speaker 3: all dressed up. Man, he left. They done tore all
Speaker 3: his clothes up off. He got to fight with a
Speaker 3: tiger man.
Speaker 2: That lewis all the highest stuff that he'd be wearing.
Speaker 3: They had that ripped the trails off my man. I said,
Speaker 3: what damn Tyrod.
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Speaker 2: The Bengals bounce back in a big way. Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: thirty six to forty six, three seventeen, three touchdowns, Jamar
Speaker 2: Chase three touchdowns coming in the week.
Speaker 3: He has set a Bengals.
Speaker 2: Record fifteen catching a buck ninety two three tubs. He
Speaker 2: told him last week. Part of my part, of my part,
Speaker 2: I'm always He said.
Speaker 5: What do you saying with Joe, I'm always open.
Speaker 1: I'm always fucking open and.
Speaker 2: Joe and Joe was looking for him, and he did
Speaker 2: a great job of getting open and staying open. And
Speaker 2: the Bengals needed this, They needed a game to like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is us. This is the way we're supposed to play.
Speaker 2: This is the way Joey b is supposed to do it,
Speaker 2: This is the way Jamar Chase. Because here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Remember Ti Higgins. I don't think Higgins play Erwin had
Speaker 2: a big day, but Boyd was huge for him in
Speaker 2: the slot. And so now Chase knows. Bro I got
Speaker 2: to stand tall. I got to be what my jersey
Speaker 2: number says, receiver number one. I got to be him
Speaker 2: for real because I ain't got my brother on the
Speaker 2: other side that's gonna lift anything. Hey, anytime you see
Speaker 2: one if Joey, if you see one guy on me,
Speaker 2: throw it.
Speaker 3: If you see two guys on me, throw it.
Speaker 2: If you see three guys on me and the one
Speaker 2: and two of them back turned, throw it.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 1: So with what you saw today, I like the creativity
Speaker 1: obviously that they were doing offensively. I think the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the Cardinals were thinking that that.
Speaker 1: There were a few times they tried to bracket him
Speaker 1: and then it didn't work. On that third touchdown in
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone, they tried to bracket him,
Speaker 1: but it's too late, you know. They Joey had to
Speaker 1: flush a little bit. He was able to find him
Speaker 1: a little late. The other plays, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: was it courting, No, it was It wasn't qurting because
Speaker 1: the say.
Speaker 3: Over the top.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, bro, what you safety? You got to
Speaker 2: get on your horn. He was on his horse chases
Speaker 2: just fast. The front side safety squatted for no reason. Bro,
Speaker 2: you got to keep thinking. You know what the slot
Speaker 2: the slot dude was he was cover.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why he even dropped down even try
Speaker 1: to cover that.
Speaker 5: There was no point. He was already no point. But
Speaker 5: that's called that's called over coacha.
Speaker 3: They needed that game, idiots. The Bills.
Speaker 2: After a big game last week, they come out Josh
Speaker 2: Allen twenty was seven or forty three fifty nine two
Speaker 2: touchdowns winning exceptions. The Buffalo Bills fifteen yards on ten
Speaker 2: carries they lose to the Jags. Is that it was
Speaker 2: that bad Bills or good Jags.
Speaker 5: I think it's good Jack good Jag defense, because that
Speaker 5: defense is very good. The Jags defense is very good.
Speaker 1: And obviously they are polling on offense as well with
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, Travis at n and we know what Treviy
Speaker 1: Lawrence can do.
Speaker 5: But they get.
Speaker 2: Kristen Kirks, they got they got Jones, they got Jay Jones,
Speaker 2: they got every ingram, they got some. They've done a
Speaker 2: great job. A Dougie p has done a great job
Speaker 2: of surrounding Trevor with some nice pieces of Calvin Ridley
Speaker 2: on that big third down, he runs the gold route
Speaker 2: from the slot. And my grandma used to always say,
Speaker 2: oh yo boy, if you leave you if you leave your.
Speaker 3: Door open, flies come in.
Speaker 2: If you in press coverage you cannot open the door.
Speaker 3: Flies will come in your house.
Speaker 2: So if you're in a press position, either press if
Speaker 2: you're not gonna press, back your butter. Because what did
Speaker 2: he do He opened the door, flies came in his
Speaker 2: house thirty nine yards later.
Speaker 3: Kevin really had a first down.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 1: I I always said, as a former DV myself. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna press, you got to get your hands on him,
Speaker 1: or at least try do something. Don't get up there
Speaker 1: and be pretty because you're now you're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to shoutow nobody from up that close.
Speaker 3: No, that's my thing. Guys, get up there.
Speaker 2: Do you realize what you've done is that if you
Speaker 2: get in a press position and you open the door,
Speaker 2: he's already even with you. At least if you were back,
Speaker 2: he would have to run to catch a weapon you told.
Speaker 2: So just think about what you've done. Now you're you're
Speaker 2: in a he's going he's going that way. You're gonna
Speaker 2: have to turn and open your hymns. If not mayor
Speaker 2: Benny d be. In the history of the game, there
Speaker 2: have been a few, maybe time and a Darryl Green
Speaker 2: back in turn open the hips and just being and
Speaker 2: be in your.
Speaker 5: Hip pocket for the foot.
Speaker 2: But most of the time, yes, most of the time,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to do that. It ain't
Speaker 2: so if you're gonna get up there in that press position,
Speaker 2: you gotta put hands on that man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think the outcome of the game, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if it would have been different because the
Speaker 1: Bills were able to throw the ball. They were able
Speaker 1: to throw the ball a little bit, but you got
Speaker 1: the established a running game. You got the established a
Speaker 1: runner game. To keep the defense on this, you got
Speaker 1: the established running game. If you can't establish the runner game,
Speaker 1: it makes everything that much easier from a defensive standpoint
Speaker 1: on what plays are called, because okay, we're not even
Speaker 1: blissing like that in our front four is really stopping
Speaker 1: you ed all of us had a fucking day.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, my bad YEA, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2: I think Mattano getting injured really hurt them because now
Speaker 2: you saw the Jags because he's greyad run stuffing and
Speaker 2: he could drop in past coverage. So now you take
Speaker 2: the heartbeat of that defense. Remember just think I was,
Speaker 2: and I was saying, the Bills gonna get even better
Speaker 2: because of the way Mlanald was playing, and they're about
Speaker 2: to get von Miller back. So now you've got a
Speaker 2: guy that can turn the lights oute of the building
Speaker 2: and you don't have to do anything for him. And
Speaker 2: you got Milano playing at an all pro level, and
Speaker 2: now he goes down, he's lost from the season broken.
Speaker 2: I think he said, fibula or tibia and possible ACL damage.
Speaker 2: We're hoping that's not the case, but it looks like
Speaker 2: he's done for the season. But you're right, Buffalo is
Speaker 2: gonna have to find some resemblance of a run game.
Speaker 2: You just can't ask Josh to drop back and throw
Speaker 2: the ball forty fifty times a game and expect to win.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible, it's possible, especially with what they
Speaker 1: have offensively.
Speaker 5: But you can't be playing you can't be playing a
Speaker 5: team that.
Speaker 1: Is really really good on defense and really has a
Speaker 1: very very good offense and expect to win by not
Speaker 1: running the ball. That's not gonna happen. Now you're playing
Speaker 1: the Broncos somebody like that. I understand that. In no
Speaker 1: disrespect to them, I'm just saying, based on what they've
Speaker 1: showed this year, there are certain teams you can get
Speaker 1: away with that. You cannot have a run game and
Speaker 1: just throw the ball up and down the field.
Speaker 2: I think the problem that the reason why I say
Speaker 2: Buffalo can't do that because Josh is turnover prone, and
Speaker 2: the more time you ask him to put the ball
Speaker 2: in the air the greater, the greater the chances are
Speaker 2: he's going to turn it over, So I wouldn't ask
Speaker 2: him to do that, But they've got to get some
Speaker 2: resemblance of a running game. The Ravens and the Ravens
Speaker 2: and the Jackson fall apart offensively and they lose to
Speaker 2: the Steelers. What what what happened to Baltimore get We'll
Speaker 2: touch on the Steelers at a minute.
Speaker 3: What happened with Baltimore?
Speaker 5: Again?
Speaker 1: Like I told you those divisional games, those divisional games
Speaker 1: playing Steelers Ravens, it's always like that. It's dirty, it's grimy,
Speaker 1: nothing about it is pretty. And you get situations like
Speaker 1: that in the fourth quarter when you need it most.
Speaker 1: At times, it's very difficult. It's very difficult. When you
Speaker 1: have someone that knows what you do, they know what
Speaker 1: you do well, they know how to counter everything that
Speaker 1: you are going to do.
Speaker 5: And they know how to stop it.
Speaker 1: Then you have the personnel in that AFC North, You
Speaker 1: have the personnel on how to deal with Lamar, how
Speaker 1: to deal with the runs, how to deal with the
Speaker 1: r pos, the play actions, and that that's just how
Speaker 1: that's just how those games go in that division. And
Speaker 1: it's always that way. The games are always close, it's
Speaker 1: never it's never pretty. It ain't never pretty in the
Speaker 1: in the scoring, and it's never high and it's out
Speaker 1: of Cleveland. The brown I mean the Browns, the Bengals,
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Every game they play is always like that.
Speaker 1: Very seldom is at a high scoring a pretty game
Speaker 1: like we saw the night with the with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and in the nineties. It never blow out like that,
Speaker 1: always close, close and ugly.
Speaker 3: But the Ravens had this game.
Speaker 2: They did yeah, right before right before this half, right
Speaker 2: before the half is fourth down, the twenty second on
Speaker 2: the clock, and the Ravens try to get cute kick
Speaker 2: the field goal. Don't talk about well, we didn't want
Speaker 2: to give them a chance to go bro. If they
Speaker 2: go down the field in sixteen seconds, if Kenny Piggy
Speaker 2: can take them down the field and get in field
Speaker 2: goal range, that's your defense.
Speaker 3: That's on your defense. You got cute.
Speaker 2: The center snapped the ball when he wasn't supposed to,
Speaker 2: and then you end up getting no You end up
Speaker 2: getting no points.
Speaker 3: They dropped five passes.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows Nelson Aguilar, his nickname is fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: There's a fifty percent chance he catch it, there's a
Speaker 2: fifty percent chance he drop it. Okay, he had a
Speaker 2: go ball for a touchdown. He dropped it. That's that's him.
Speaker 2: Go back and look go back and look a look
Speaker 2: at it with the Raiders. Go back and look at
Speaker 2: the Patriots. Go back and look at what the Eagles.
Speaker 2: I'm not making this stuff up. No, he's he has more.
Speaker 2: He has more retriever than receiver. Retriever will pick up
Speaker 2: something that you throw out there and bring it back
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 3: He won't.
Speaker 2: A receiver will catch it. So he has more retriever
Speaker 2: in him. I'll bring it back to you after this
Speaker 2: hit the ground as opposed to catch it on the fly.
Speaker 5: No, no, don't talk on toban dog like that. Don't
Speaker 5: don't don't do it like that. Listen. We all drop balls,
Speaker 5: We all drop balls.
Speaker 1: But he the one he dropped it was magnified because
Speaker 1: it was it was a very important portant cast that
Speaker 1: would have given them six points. It wouldn't given a
Speaker 1: six point for Sean Babman also had an important dropping
Speaker 1: the end zone.
Speaker 3: His way had five drops.
Speaker 2: They had five drop but Lamar threw a horrible interception. Ojo,
Speaker 2: you can't throw the back shoulder and miss inside the
Speaker 2: reason why you throw the back shoulder is because the
Speaker 2: guy is inside right right, You can't you cannot miss that.
Speaker 2: Bad lamar you got, You've got.
Speaker 3: That's third down, Ojo.
Speaker 2: At worst case scenario, we've got to come away with points. Forget,
Speaker 2: even if we don't score touchdown, Ojoe, we can't end
Speaker 2: the drive with a turnover.
Speaker 3: We just can't.
Speaker 5: Shit happens.
Speaker 1: You've been in that position before, maybe not in the
Speaker 1: this is a playing quarterback, but understanding the mistakes that
Speaker 1: happened when pressure situations like that, when you want to win,
Speaker 1: when you want to be precise, when you want to
Speaker 1: throw that ball on the back shoulder on that that
Speaker 1: upfield shoulder away from the dB, sometimes that it's done
Speaker 1: come out right. And that was that was a result.
Speaker 1: That was the results for the day.
Speaker 2: He's lost his seventh fumble of the season. He's got
Speaker 2: to do a better job of taking care of the football. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: you can't. Look, here's the thing, this is what this
Speaker 2: is what the coach has always said. Look, guys are
Speaker 2: gonna get beat. They get paid too. But let's not
Speaker 2: exacerbate a situation. If a guy gets beat, if a
Speaker 2: guy misses a play, don't exacerbate it by fumbling the football,
Speaker 2: by giving them the ball. Let's just make sure we
Speaker 2: hold on to the ball and either punt of the
Speaker 2: way or get another crack at them. He's got to
Speaker 2: do a better job. And I'm gonna say something that's
Speaker 2: very unpopular right now. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take TJ. Watt and I'm what he's been
Speaker 2: doing the last five years, and I'm gonna put him
Speaker 2: on the Cowboys. And I'm gonna take Michael Parson with
Speaker 2: what he's been doing, and I'm gonna put him on
Speaker 2: the Steelers.
Speaker 5: What you think You're still getting the same production?
Speaker 3: I'm I think T J. Watt is better.
Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I say, you still getting the
Speaker 5: same production?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 5: You still you still get.
Speaker 2: Two and a half sacks? Go go look at the numbers.
Speaker 2: Go look at the numbers. Go look at the numbers.
Speaker 2: You say I'm getting the same production, Look at the
Speaker 2: sack numbers. I'm just okay, how long has Michael been
Speaker 2: in the league?
Speaker 5: Three years?
Speaker 1: This is year three, this is only it's only year three.
Speaker 5: It's only year three.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's look at let we're gonna put up the
Speaker 2: facts We're gonna put up the sack totals. We're gonna
Speaker 2: tackle for losses, We're gonna put force fumbles because all
Speaker 2: I know, if t J.
Speaker 3: Watt is kicking down the.
Speaker 1: Door every day, every every time, every time, no matter
Speaker 1: who they plan, I mean, he's he is. He and
Speaker 1: Menka Fitzpatrick are the Steelers defense. They are the in
Speaker 1: his defense.
Speaker 2: Hot Smelled was outstanding today. Also high Smith had a
Speaker 2: big strip side. Uh.
Speaker 3: But I believe if t J.
Speaker 2: Watt was doing what he's doing in Pittsburgh was doing
Speaker 2: it for the Cowboys, because you got to understand, the
Speaker 2: Cowboys are on TV every f and Sunday because they draw,
Speaker 2: so everybody Fox, one of them on CBS, one of
Speaker 2: them on NBC, wants Some on ESPN.
Speaker 5: Want some More. Was the time that like that though
Speaker 5: now it was the time.
Speaker 2: They were, but the Cowboys have always been like that.
Speaker 2: Even when the Cowboy was was bad, the Cowboys was
Speaker 2: on TV because because of that fan base.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: Right now my eyes, on a consistent basis, it tells
Speaker 2: me TJ.
Speaker 3: Watter is better than Michael.
Speaker 1: You know what everything is? Everything is that I love,
Speaker 1: every Everything is based off stats. Everything is based off stats,
Speaker 1: and that's all we have to go off of. That's
Speaker 1: all we have to go off of. But I think
Speaker 1: if you would have asked defensive coordinators or ask other
Speaker 1: defensive ends just off an eye test, they are both phenomenal.
Speaker 1: They're both they're they're both, they're both good. So it's
Speaker 1: like it's like it's it's a it's a hard choice
Speaker 1: for me because it's like we.
Speaker 2: Judged an we judged in a beauty contest. Both we can't.
Speaker 2: We can't have too we can't have to mental americles,
Speaker 2: we can't have.
Speaker 5: You got to pick one.
Speaker 3: You gotta pick one.
Speaker 1: I like, I like Michael Parsons. I mean nothing, thats nothing,
Speaker 1: that's nothing against t J.
Speaker 3: Watt.
Speaker 1: That's like saying that's like saying Rihanna Beyonce. Well, god damn,
Speaker 1: either where you go, you can't go wrong.
Speaker 3: You gotta take one.
Speaker 5: It's based on preference.
Speaker 3: OK. How about this?
Speaker 5: How about that? I got one better for you? Michael
Speaker 5: Jordan or Lebron you.
Speaker 3: Already know stop playing with me, you know, go James
Speaker 3: where it's at.
Speaker 1: But either way, either way, no matter which way you go,
Speaker 1: you still can't go wrong and you're still right. One
Speaker 1: of the few times where it's a win, it's a
Speaker 1: win win agree with it's a win win the way.
Speaker 2: Okay, so if you had to rank the AFC right now,
Speaker 2: how would you rank them?
Speaker 5: Chiefs? Obviously I had the Dophins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you loved the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I love I love the Dolphins, but I am also
Speaker 1: I want to stay within reality too, based on you know,
Speaker 1: those who've had two Super Bowls in the last four years, Chiefs,
Speaker 1: my Dolphins. I like to say my Bangles are back
Speaker 1: on track. I like to say my bank Bills yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, most definitely, most definitely and obviously had the
Speaker 1: Bills right right after that, I would go Dolphins, Chiefs.
Speaker 5: Whoa, yeah, I test.
Speaker 3: I'm just going out. I'm just going out.
Speaker 5: Stay with that, I stay with that.
Speaker 3: I got Dolphins, Chiefs, Bills, JAG's bingals.
Speaker 5: Come on, come on, come on that with the bulls ship.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I don't even curse because I'm saved, but here you
Speaker 5: go at the bulls shit.
Speaker 3: Jag bagel bag that.
Speaker 5: I thought you.
Speaker 3: I thought you were.
Speaker 5: Doing eye test.
Speaker 3: I do that.
Speaker 5: So if you're doing if you're doing.
Speaker 3: Watching the bingles, my eyes were cross.
Speaker 2: I've been watching the bigger that'll be going all over
Speaker 2: the plat damn what y'all doing this?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: So that what that why I had to put it.
Speaker 2: I had to putting it five so that one man
Speaker 2: with that one.
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all be all over the players, don't your So
Speaker 3: I don't know what y'all want. I'm geting y'all, come on, man,
Speaker 3: then you gotta be sweating up in here, hey.
Speaker 5: Jordan, and don't oh ships stomach hurt.
Speaker 3: But y'all, I mean considered considering.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, you know, they're the one time that you
Speaker 2: guys weren't in the top five. It took a performance
Speaker 2: like today just to get y'all to five from me.
Speaker 1: That's what I kept trying to tell you, though. I
Speaker 1: kept trying to get you to understand. I know what
Speaker 1: you're seeing right now, it's not really us. And I
Speaker 1: kept trying to tell you and explain that to you.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about what's going on. At the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season, we always.
Speaker 3: Started forty nine ers, right, who y'all got forty nine.
Speaker 5: Gonna win that game too? Oh?
Speaker 1: Let it right now, right, let's bet, let's let's let's bet.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not even the gambler man, but
Speaker 1: I bet whatever. I bet, whatever I get, I.
Speaker 5: Guarantee, and I'm standing on business like like. I'm standing
Speaker 5: on business like Druskie say, I guarantee you we beat
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers and we're going and we're going
Speaker 5: to leave our stadium. I don't even we leavis. I
Speaker 5: only wear five O ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah I do. They're gonna beat They're gonna beat the
Speaker 2: blue jeans off your well.
Speaker 5: It's one thing.
Speaker 1: It's one thing you if you know about this NFL
Speaker 1: week in and week out, ain't no telling the team
Speaker 1: that you expect to win each week.
Speaker 5: It don't.
Speaker 1: It don't always go to where you think it's gonna go.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now because I got the script.
Speaker 1: If you're a betting man, listen to me, don't listen
Speaker 1: to Shannon.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you when they get done with y'all, I
Speaker 2: bet they beat the back pockets off y'all.
Speaker 3: Geens.
Speaker 2: See when I was crumbing, when I was coming up.
Speaker 2: But I know you didn't know anything about the most
Speaker 2: smooth booties. The women had jeans, they didn't have back
Speaker 2: pockets on them. We call them smooth booties. Nah. So
Speaker 2: when they get done with y'all, y'all don't have no
Speaker 2: back pockets on the back of y'all.
Speaker 5: Gen what's the best? What's the best? Make it light?
Speaker 5: Make it light on yourself. Now, make it light on yourself.
Speaker 2: I won't, uh we better band. Let's better band band?
Speaker 5: March one hunt.
Speaker 3: You. I tell you what I want to do, what
Speaker 3: I want, I won't. I tell you what. This is,
Speaker 3: what we're gonna do. I wanna.
Speaker 2: I want to bet one hundred dollars and I want
Speaker 2: I want you to pay mine off in Buffalo Nikels,
Speaker 2: Buffalo nickel Yeah, because I want you to go to
Speaker 2: the bank and as the cashier, can you get one
Speaker 2: hundred dollars a Buffalo Nikels? And she gonna say, mister Johnson,
Speaker 2: why do you need Buffalo Nickels? And then you're gonna
Speaker 2: say because I lost a bet to shinon Shark.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 2: I don't want your money. I want your pride. See
Speaker 2: damn your money. I got money. I want your pride.
Speaker 2: I want you to go explain to people why you
Speaker 2: need a hundred dollars worth of Buffalo Nikels.
Speaker 1: Listen too, I'm never wrong when it comes to the
Speaker 1: game of football. You don't understand. I have the script and.
Speaker 5: The way and the way the season is going.
Speaker 1: You know, next week, not this weekend, the weekend after
Speaker 1: because we play. We played the Seahawks first and then
Speaker 1: we got wait, we want to know y'all.
Speaker 3: Wait, it's like it's like a month away before you No.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no no no no no no no, no,
Speaker 5: no no no.
Speaker 3: What did that play?
Speaker 5: Wouldn't wouldn't be I thought it was the fifteen, No,
Speaker 5: the fifteen.
Speaker 1: We played the Seahawks, then we played the fourty nine ers,
Speaker 1: then we got to buy week or I might be
Speaker 1: wrong in two weeks.
Speaker 3: In two weeks, so I'm right, yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see I told you yeah, Seahawks comes to us,
Speaker 1: then we go to leave our stadium and we're finna win.
Speaker 2: Y'all had y'all got to buy is in three weeks.
Speaker 2: So y'all played Seattle by then.
Speaker 5: So I was right then I was right. You know
Speaker 5: what it is?
Speaker 2: You You was right when y'all played, But you're gonna
Speaker 2: be right that y'all gonna.
Speaker 5: Win bet is own? Oh bet that band to bet
Speaker 5: that band? Bet?
Speaker 3: Okay? You like you said something.
Speaker 2: I just I just want I just want Sharilla to
Speaker 2: know she right, that's a thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: That's a thousand dollars off that gift.
Speaker 2: Charrell, your gift just cast the thousand dollars less because
Speaker 2: he just lost some money.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get I'm gonna get the band from her.
Speaker 5: If I do lose Dad, he.
Speaker 3: Got nothing to do with me. He's gonna spend the same. Uh.
Speaker 3: The Broncos lose again to the Jets.
Speaker 2: We all know what Sean Payton said earlier in the offseason,
Speaker 2: ain't Hacke. It was the worst coaching job about Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 2: He's now the offensive coordinator for the Jets. He was
Speaker 2: formerly the head coach of the Broncos. And Sean Payton
Speaker 2: and Russ exchanged words on the sideline. Is this marriage
Speaker 2: going to end after this season? Or do they do?
Speaker 2: They start like, you know what, we know we're gonna
Speaker 2: end it after this season, and then we just go
Speaker 2: ahead and just start try to get Caleb will.
Speaker 5: Wait, they can't end it. How they gonna end it?
Speaker 5: They just paid him?
Speaker 2: Oh, they getting not money? He gonna be He not
Speaker 2: gonna be in Denver after this year.
Speaker 5: They just paid him. How you how you gonna go anywhere?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to cap stuff working and dead
Speaker 1: money and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: The packers are eating fifty fifty million in dead money, right,
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers? You did you see what they did with
Speaker 2: Nick Fold? All that dead money that the Eagles ate,
Speaker 2: and and and and and and and ndy eight. They
Speaker 2: don't care nothing about that.
Speaker 3: Man, They eat that dead money.
Speaker 5: Kayley Williams to Denver, Is that is that what we're doing?
Speaker 3: Yep? As well?
Speaker 5: Wait already, yeah, hey, y'all be throwing.
Speaker 1: I mean we y'all we well, we we y'all be
Speaker 1: throwing in this house.
Speaker 3: Man watching Russ? You watching? Okay? What chance do the
Speaker 3: Broncos have? You?
Speaker 2: Watching Russ play? Russ can't move anyone anymore. What made
Speaker 2: Russ unique was his ability to skate the rush rush.
Speaker 2: Russ can't outrun me. He can't get away from his kids.
Speaker 2: If his kids, his two and three year old, starts
Speaker 2: chasing them, they catch him. Well, you watching the game
Speaker 2: the run. I'm not telling you anything, oh Joe. That
Speaker 2: people don't see people. I mean sometimes that should. I'm
Speaker 2: just telling you, what do you see Russ cannot get
Speaker 2: away from the Russ the rush anymore.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to even seeing him. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think, conjure up something to defend Russ with, but
Speaker 1: it's it's hard.
Speaker 2: We're going ahead try, I mean, because at first it
Speaker 2: was Nathaniel Hackett. Remember it was Nathaniel Hackett. He should
Speaker 2: have been the coordinator, he should have been the head coach.
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have called plays. So now now I'm not
Speaker 2: saying I'm not I'm not saying that he's not. Uh,
Speaker 2: Sean Payton is not without blame here now, because here's
Speaker 2: the problem that Russ has. Sean Payton coaches hard. Russ
Speaker 2: has never been coached like that. You see, It's either
Speaker 2: to be coached hard and go somewhere easy, as opposed
Speaker 2: to being somewhere easy and then being coached hard.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, he's been playing football all his life,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure at some point, some some part along
Speaker 1: that journey he's had a coach that you know is
Speaker 1: a little hard on him.
Speaker 5: And spec can't you can't be solved.
Speaker 2: You just told me now, I remember you and I
Speaker 2: was having a conversation earlier, earlier, when we first started
Speaker 2: a nightcap. You said they talked to the quarterback differently,
Speaker 2: they treat the quarterback different Yeah, now.
Speaker 5: You got you're not supposed to.
Speaker 1: I mean, as as you know, you know that's the
Speaker 1: rule calling carding rule number one. You never chastised your
Speaker 1: quarterback in front of the team or other players.
Speaker 5: You just don't that. That's that's that's the way.
Speaker 3: Publicly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, publicly, yeah, you just you're just don't.
Speaker 2: But Sean Payton coaches, all right, right, right right, Bill
Speaker 2: Parcells is his mentor Tom Coughlin, Okay, okay. He also
Speaker 2: guess who else could learned up on the part sales?
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick? Now, what did you say, Bill Belichick? What
Speaker 2: did you say?
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick did with Tom Brady the first time that.
Speaker 1: Man, he let he let him have it in front
Speaker 1: of the whole team. And listen that moment, I understood
Speaker 1: that everybody in that room was expendable. Every everybody in
Speaker 1: that room was expendable. It's the year they lost to
Speaker 1: the Jets when Mark said was a quarterback in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Rick rhyn was the decordinator.
Speaker 1: Man, He said, this is the whole point of the
Speaker 1: season hadn't even started. Yet it's the first guydamn meeting.
Speaker 1: This is the bullshit we can't have and we're thinking
Speaker 1: about getting to the super Bowl. And he put on
Speaker 1: all the mistakes.
Speaker 3: Because Russ was careless with the football.
Speaker 2: You know, do you realize that Russ has seventy yards
Speaker 2: passing through three quarters?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, but is that not on Sean.
Speaker 3: Page and DJ Reed? And DJ Reed was out of
Speaker 3: the gate.
Speaker 2: Look here, I don't care what type I give you
Speaker 2: some terrible ingredients. I don't care what type of chef
Speaker 2: you are. You can't make it taste good.
Speaker 1: Okay, Boomo bingo, first ship together, first ship together, getting
Speaker 1: to know each other. Are we throwing in the towel
Speaker 1: on that already on that, on that relationship?
Speaker 3: Oh, let me ask your question.
Speaker 2: If you, let's just say, for the sake of argument,
Speaker 2: you say you know what you and the why say
Speaker 2: you know what. We're gonna splur, you know what. We're
Speaker 2: gonna go. Get this path down in Tampa. That thing
Speaker 2: twenty that thing twenty million. Are you expecting to do
Speaker 2: any upgrades or you expecting to move in.
Speaker 5: For twenty min I'm moving in, okay, and everything be ready.
Speaker 3: The bron coach ownership the Walton Piner family.
Speaker 2: They pay the coach eighteen million and they play on
Speaker 2: a quarterback forty seven million. And you talk about we're
Speaker 2: gonna build. We got time to do what I got
Speaker 2: sixty five? Now that if I got sixty five, sixty
Speaker 2: five million dollars tied up and quarterback of the head coach,
Speaker 2: I ain't wait.
Speaker 3: No nothing.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can't pay. You can't pay your way to success.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta work on it. Sometimes you gotta work
Speaker 1: your way through it.
Speaker 5: You can't.
Speaker 1: It's like something when you get married. You have the
Speaker 1: you have the ceremony, you have the reception, you have
Speaker 1: the honeymoon. You think things are gonna go good. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it goes up, sometimes it comes down. But you got
Speaker 1: to keep on working on till you find that happy
Speaker 1: medium righting the guydamn middle.
Speaker 5: And that's where they at right now.
Speaker 3: O Joe.
Speaker 2: It takes a special type of coach to come in
Speaker 2: and coach. It's almost like dating somewhere with kid is
Speaker 2: he said, Man, my damn kids, I ain't finn put
Speaker 2: up with that bull.
Speaker 1: Joy Listen, that's something special. Now when you're daily woman
Speaker 1: with kids, you know what you don't have to worry about.
Speaker 1: She's gonna always have snacks in the cupboard. She's gonna
Speaker 1: always have some.
Speaker 3: Snacks in the cupboard.
Speaker 2: And Sean Payton like, hold on, I ain't I ain't
Speaker 2: trade for him, I ain't paying him. You know how
Speaker 2: coaches like to get their play, just like a general
Speaker 2: manager likes to get his coach. New ownership like to
Speaker 2: get their coach. I won't mind, this is mine.
Speaker 1: But what is the best ship? Where's the where's another
Speaker 1: option outside of Russell Wilson? After the season?
Speaker 5: Where we going?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Think about it? That's thing long term?
Speaker 1: What's the long term answer to the situation right now?
Speaker 1: Back in field?
Speaker 2: I think, I think, I think. I think Sean Payton
Speaker 2: wants his he wants here.
Speaker 5: Look, Drew, he ain't walking through that.
Speaker 2: No no, no, Drew, jew was done. Drew had no more,
Speaker 2: had no more tread on the tire. But could I
Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. Now, last year they
Speaker 2: were two and three, they're one and four, and you supposedly,
Speaker 2: allegedly they got better coaching, allegedly better. Russell was supposed
Speaker 2: to be better. You tell me Russ looks better this
Speaker 2: year than he looked last year, and he looked like
Speaker 2: Sturfry last year. Now right now he looked like Mo
Speaker 2: moo got paying who Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Ain't even said general Joe's chicken. He move moved. I
Speaker 3: tell you the Chinese food.
Speaker 5: Now I don't. I don't, Yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 5: know them people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he move moved. He ain't even Sturfry.
Speaker 1: So we only at the quarter pole of the season.
Speaker 1: Are you giving up on Russ? Are you giving up
Speaker 1: on the Broncos in general? Just just ask him because what.
Speaker 3: Look the Broncos we would look.
Speaker 2: I understand that we got Sean Payton, but look they
Speaker 2: saw Russ. It's like a fighter. You remember what he
Speaker 2: once was, But what do you see now?
Speaker 3: What do you see?
Speaker 1: Oh yall listen. Sometime that fighter they can catch the
Speaker 1: second win. Sometime that fighter catch a second win. And
Speaker 1: that's seventh round, and all of a sudden you get
Speaker 1: to round eight, nine and ten, eleven and twelve and.
Speaker 5: It's a whole different fight. It's a different fighter.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, he can't beat good teams anymore. He'll beat
Speaker 2: the he'll beat he beat teams that are inferior. But
Speaker 2: when when they have the Broncos won a game that
Speaker 2: they weren't supposed to win. They were supposed to be Chicago.
Speaker 2: Win of the win was the time the Broncos won
Speaker 2: a game in the last two years and you say, man,
Speaker 2: we weren't supposed to.
Speaker 3: Win that one, but we won that one. You were
Speaker 3: supposed to be Chicago.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: The limber. Tell you what the good quarterbacks do.
Speaker 2: They normally ninety percent of the time beat the team
Speaker 2: that they're supposed to beat, and it's fifty to fifty
Speaker 2: they win seventy five percent of those. That's what the
Speaker 2: that's what the really good ones do.
Speaker 5: You know what else the really good ones have. No,
Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna go there.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna leave it at that. You're right.
Speaker 3: I mean, think about look here they gave the Broncos
Speaker 3: gave up.
Speaker 2: They gave up three first round picks, three second round picks,
Speaker 2: a fifth round pick. They gave him five years, two
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five million, one hundred and sixty five guaranteed.
Speaker 2: They gave Sean Payton five years, one hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: and all of this to be one and four. They
Speaker 2: got six wins in the last twenty two games. Somebody
Speaker 2: got to go.
Speaker 1: You know what that family that that bought the Broncos.
Speaker 1: They've business people, right, yes, And you know when it
Speaker 1: comes to business, sometimes you put your money in and
Speaker 1: stuff and it don't turn out the way you wanted
Speaker 1: to right away, just because you invested a certain amount
Speaker 1: into it. Sometimes you know what, you gotta work the yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know what they do. Sure, when the
Speaker 1: Walton family started, as soon as they put money into something,
Speaker 1: it didn't turn around and you saw a profit right away.
Speaker 3: Sometimes with that doing. Now you remember what they did
Speaker 3: in the pay damn it.
Speaker 2: They close the walmarts, the less profitable walmarts, they close them.
Speaker 3: More folds down. I don't know if you understand.
Speaker 2: They have things what they call a right down.
Speaker 3: Now. They ain't losing. We're right it up. We're going
Speaker 3: are you ay?
Speaker 2: You say you financial Your financial people told you about writing.
Speaker 3: Things down right. You put it in this year and
Speaker 3: it goes into this year.
Speaker 2: So next year you start with a clean slate. You
Speaker 2: better stop playing. You say you say you like chess,
Speaker 2: so they play chess. Everybody else looking at it as checkers.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you now, I ain't your Hey, think I'm
Speaker 2: playing what I ain't.
Speaker 5: That's that's crazy how the business work. Though, it's crazy.
Speaker 5: It's crazy how the business work. Two years, they already ready,
Speaker 5: they're ready to fold on you already.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yoe, we don't have time. There's too much money.
Speaker 2: I can't let you drag. I can't let you get
Speaker 2: another forty five million of my dollars for another three
Speaker 2: and thirty three and fourteen season.
Speaker 3: I can't do that.
Speaker 5: You know what's gonna happen. This is his thing.
Speaker 1: It really is no answer, because if you do go
Speaker 1: somewhere else, you do get another quarterback, you go draft
Speaker 1: the rookie, You're still gonna be in the same boat.
Speaker 1: That's like saying a woman pushing you to get married,
Speaker 1: and she said, well, you're taking too long to ask me.
Speaker 5: You leave and go dere with somebody else, and he
Speaker 5: ain't gonna ask you either, So you're still stuck in
Speaker 5: the same goddamn situation.
Speaker 2: But guess what, I already know. I already know. I've
Speaker 2: been with you for two years. So if you ain't
Speaker 2: gonna make the move, so I already know what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get, I'm gonna go some for somebody else they
Speaker 2: might see. You said, I can't find anybody better? Who
Speaker 2: just say I can't? I'm not finna be done. Oh
Speaker 2: I'm so you want me to be beholden because I'm
Speaker 2: unafraid to go try to find something better.
Speaker 1: Well, statistically speaking, the chance you find is something better
Speaker 1: is slim to none. Based on statistics. You're talking based
Speaker 1: on Russell.
Speaker 2: Wilson, You talking about Russ five years ago, you talking
Speaker 2: about you don't think I can find anything better than
Speaker 2: this Russell.
Speaker 5: Wilson right now, right now, you don't think right now,
Speaker 5: as hard as it is to have a decent quarterback
Speaker 5: in this NFL.
Speaker 2: Said, I'm saying, you saying I can't find next year
Speaker 2: a quarterback that can give me better at this production,
Speaker 2: if not better for a treat for price than what Russell?
Speaker 3: Are you telling me that right now?
Speaker 5: Where are you gonna find?
Speaker 2: I'm just don't worry about that. Don't you worry about
Speaker 2: See there you go? Well, who you talking see down?
Speaker 2: How the WIRBI that with?
Speaker 3: Who you talking to?
Speaker 2: Don't worry about that. Don't you worry about who I'm
Speaker 2: talking to. I'm not gonna be talking to you no more.
Speaker 2: That's all you need to worry about. Don't worry about
Speaker 2: who I might be talking to. I might not be
Speaker 2: talking to nobody, but it won't be you.
Speaker 1: One thing about the NFL, they always feel well, everybody's replaceable.
Speaker 1: Everybody's replaceable, thank you. Everybody's replaceable. Let let's let let's
Speaker 1: start there. Everybody's replaceable. But the quarterback position. You understand
Speaker 1: the landscape players coming out of college quarterbacks that are
Speaker 1: in the NFL now, some that are not NFL at
Speaker 1: this moment. You understand how difficult it is to find
Speaker 1: one that is efficient. You know how difficult that is, right,
Speaker 1: and you're making this sound so easy.
Speaker 3: Oh, Joe, I got ten million in my pocket.
Speaker 2: There ain't no houses that I look a like, but
Speaker 2: one might become available a little later. How do we
Speaker 2: know Kyler Murray don't become available?
Speaker 3: How do we know that?
Speaker 5: Why would Kyler Murray?
Speaker 1: If Kyler Murray becomes available, He'll be playing for the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals because he gives them their best chance to win.
Speaker 3: Who gives.
Speaker 5: Chance to win? Right now? Even though things aren't going
Speaker 5: well even at one and for us.
Speaker 2: Here, I'm not talking about right now. I'm saying moving forward.
Speaker 2: I think listen this year. No, but I do not
Speaker 2: believe Russell Wilson would be in Denver next year. I
Speaker 2: don't believe Russell is the long term answer to what
Speaker 2: the Broncos want or need.
Speaker 3: That is my personal opinion.
Speaker 2: The man had seventy yards through three quarters.
Speaker 5: Seventy so that's just that's all his fault.
Speaker 2: So let me ask your question. See you keep saying
Speaker 2: this is all his.
Speaker 5: Fault, his fault. I mean, this is a team game offensively,
Speaker 5: But let.
Speaker 2: Me ask your question. How many come back? How many
Speaker 2: come from behind wins? You got or they gave that
Speaker 2: the credit? They gave that the Carson you see that
Speaker 2: give See Russell got forty game winning drives. How many
Speaker 2: receivers got, how many the old line got? Oh oh,
Speaker 2: so it's not all his fault, but he get all
Speaker 2: the credit.
Speaker 1: Okay, I see, yes, you I like. I like how
Speaker 1: you flip that on me though. That's a good one.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 2: Patriots worth shutout lost in the Belichick era. Matt Jones
Speaker 2: over the last two games four interceptions, two pick sixes,
Speaker 2: a fumber return for a touchdown. He threw for one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards Against Dallas, he threw for one
Speaker 2: hundred and ten yards against New Orleans, zero touchdowns, bitch
Speaker 2: twice and outscored sixty nine to three. How much long, girl,
Speaker 2: does Coach Belichick stick with mac Jones? You can't just
Speaker 2: keep benching a quarterback and keep sticking it back out
Speaker 2: there the next week. You can't do that, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 5: Who are gonna put in there?
Speaker 2: Zeppie Bailey, Zappy Bailey, zappy Zactly.
Speaker 1: Obviously they got mac Jones starting for a reason because
Speaker 1: they feel mac Jones gives them the best chance to win.
Speaker 5: But obviously it's not happening.
Speaker 3: Mac Jones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've been last week too. They've been last week.
Speaker 2: They've been in for a game they've mentioneding for at
Speaker 2: the start of the game, not that, not during the game,
Speaker 2: the start of the game. How much longer fans were
Speaker 2: both look here, the Patriots fans should not do at all.
Speaker 2: You've had the longest stretch of prosperity in NFL history.
Speaker 2: Do you understand from two thousand in one until two
Speaker 2: thoy and nineteen what happened? You went the nine Super Bowls?
Speaker 2: You won six. You shouldn't boo, you should say you
Speaker 2: should you should say, you know what, Hey, I don't
Speaker 2: care what happened because they know nothing can take Bro,
Speaker 2: do you understand how great you've had it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I think they understand. But obviously it's the
Speaker 1: winning ways. It's the winning ways. You're spoiled now. You
Speaker 1: ever have a woman that you continue to just do
Speaker 1: for and do for and do for, do for, and
Speaker 1: things are always good, so you're always expecting good. You're
Speaker 1: always expecting things to be perfect. And it's just it's
Speaker 1: just not the case. That's not the landscape or the
Speaker 1: dynamic of that team right now. Even the expertise and
Speaker 1: in brilliance of the coaching mind of Bill Belichick can't
Speaker 1: fix the situation going on over there right now. Until
Speaker 1: you get a quarterback that is efficient and I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say mag Jones commentent, but one
Speaker 1: that doesn't turn them all over, you're not gonna have
Speaker 1: a chance to win.
Speaker 5: You're just not.
Speaker 2: Brady could make Obviously he had guys that could really play.
Speaker 2: But Brady could elevate guys that were just if they
Speaker 2: were anybody else, they would be here.
Speaker 3: He could get them to hear that's not what.
Speaker 2: Mac Jones Matt Jones need great players to elevate him,
Speaker 2: Jaylen Waddle, DeVonta Smith or ni Gie Harris Nick's Obviously
Speaker 2: the coaching is a push, but you look at what
Speaker 2: he had to elevate him. Now he doesn't have that
Speaker 2: level of talent to elevate him. He needs to be elevated.
Speaker 2: Tom Brady could elevate.
Speaker 1: That's the funny thing about college, which is very scary
Speaker 1: when it comes to drafting. When it comes to drafting players,
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're gonna get from the quarterback
Speaker 1: because once you get to the NFL, the level of
Speaker 1: talent evens out, it evens out, and if you don't
Speaker 1: have true superstars, you never know how good that quarterback
Speaker 1: going to be because ain't no telling what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Because you have you have good players around you, you
Speaker 1: have I mean on the pages, you have good players
Speaker 1: around you, but you have to play at such a
Speaker 1: different level to make sure your team has a chance.
Speaker 5: And that's just not what they're getting. That's just not
Speaker 5: what they're getting.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about this. Drake Joe Budden's beef. Joe
Speaker 2: Budden took a shot at Drake said he's making music
Speaker 2: for children, completely disregarding his older fan base. Why are
Speaker 2: you still fing the twenty five year old you a
Speaker 2: thirty seven year old building there, thirty seven year old
Speaker 2: building billionaire?
Speaker 3: Who side you on?
Speaker 5: I love everybody. I like joke a joker, rap, joking, rap,
Speaker 5: joke and rap.
Speaker 1: He can do his things when it's time to get
Speaker 1: on that, mic I love Drake. Drake is great, one
Speaker 1: of the best artists of this generation maybe if all
Speaker 1: goddamn time in general, based on the run that he's
Speaker 1: on right now, longevity and consistency and understanding what's going
Speaker 1: to going to take to remain at the top, and
Speaker 1: he's been able to do that. Not very many artists
Speaker 1: can do that. He's evolved, his sound has evolved with
Speaker 1: the times to make sure the fan base continues to carry.
Speaker 3: Sound like you.
Speaker 5: On Drake's side, it's I just told you. I love both, Hey,
Speaker 5: I love both.
Speaker 2: But my thing is that Drake is making music. Look,
Speaker 2: I'll you know, I own a podcast and when I
Speaker 2: when sponsors and people advertisers reach out, they I send
Speaker 2: a deck. They want to know, right, they want to
Speaker 2: know the demographics. Okay, what's the eighteen to twenty five
Speaker 2: year twenty four year old, looking like, what's the twenty
Speaker 2: five to thirty four? What's the thirty five to forty four?
Speaker 2: What's the forty five to fifty four?
Speaker 3: What that looking like? Right?
Speaker 2: How much of how many? What's the percentage of the meanion?
Speaker 2: What's the percentage of of women? What's the percentage of education?
Speaker 3: Are they married? Right? College degree?
Speaker 2: All that? So Drake is looking at it like, hold on,
Speaker 2: the people that's streaming and buy my music is in
Speaker 2: this Democrat right right, I'm gonna make I'm that advertisers
Speaker 2: who advertises appealing to every once in a while, you
Speaker 2: get some you get a caw, you get a Cadillac commercial,
Speaker 2: But most of the time they appealing to people eighteen
Speaker 2: to twenty four, twenty five to thirty four.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I think maybe Joe, maybe Joe holds
Speaker 1: Drake to a higher standard than everybody else because if
Speaker 1: you look at other rappers and what they rap about,
Speaker 1: the content that they rap about, it's similar to the
Speaker 1: same thing regardless of age. You know, you have rappers
Speaker 1: at at thirty six and thirty seven and it's still
Speaker 1: rapping about the same thing they were rapping about you know,
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years.
Speaker 5: Of making money. Yes, quest that's another word.
Speaker 2: So so another word in five years from now, you know,
Speaker 2: we want us to train nine capta. So we just
Speaker 2: go talk financially because I'll be sixty and you'll be
Speaker 2: five years older. So so stop talking about this history
Speaker 2: and we're gonna start talking financial. I mean, that's not
Speaker 2: that's not that's not what our audience wants to hear
Speaker 2: from us. That's not what Drake's audience wants here, because
Speaker 2: the audience will tell you what they want to hear.
Speaker 2: When they stopped buying your music, when they stopped buying
Speaker 2: your product, they telling you, either.
Speaker 3: You make a ship or we're gonna shift for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that we'll considering.
Speaker 2: Drake is selling out Arenas he's selling out so fine
Speaker 2: and things are that.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah listen. I didn't I didn't really get into it heavy.
Speaker 5: I read about it.
Speaker 3: What's the problem.
Speaker 1: I've read about it. I heard about it, and I'm like, god, damn,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And then I listened to what Joe
Speaker 1: Budden said. Then I listened to Drake fire back at him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, can we all get along? Can we
Speaker 1: all get along?
Speaker 3: But see, but think about it? Why is it us?
Speaker 3: Why do we always look?
Speaker 2: I understand, but the critique I went, when did the
Speaker 2: white podcast are gonna take the shot at Timberlake?
Speaker 5: The sharing a move like that? Oh they don't move
Speaker 5: like that?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'm just wondering.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it normally it's us. We like
Speaker 1: to continue to challenge each other. We we love to
Speaker 1: continue to challenge challenge each other. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 5: It Bill's character.
Speaker 2: And you're talking about where you messing with twenty five
Speaker 2: year olds? I mean, bro, what you need to fire
Speaker 2: hold on? How old is jay Z? How is Beyonce fifty?
Speaker 2: I think there's a there's better. I guarantee you there's
Speaker 2: better than a decade difference.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for real with the problem.
Speaker 2: I bet you, I bet you're doing off to a
Speaker 2: buck of the Carbineur. And I'll let you put in
Speaker 2: the book of the Carbinur. That's how confident I am.
Speaker 2: A golden door knock.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that stuff get like that. Good personal Oh how
Speaker 1: how how is how? How is your lady? You younger
Speaker 1: than you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Baby? How old are you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: She's thirty? Six.
Speaker 1: Okay, she has thirty six on the sixteenth. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you like what you like, you like what you came
Speaker 1: after me. But you know, you know she came after me.
Speaker 1: She's stayed in my DM though.
Speaker 3: That's what that's what, that's whatever.
Speaker 2: There's a road shortage, they say, hell, you brought out
Speaker 2: all the roses in Florida because I tried to send
Speaker 2: somebody some couldn't get one, not one.
Speaker 3: That what they told me. If it's a lie, I
Speaker 3: don't know who is. Like listen, jay Z is fifty three, Beyonce,
Speaker 3: it's forty two.
Speaker 5: That's that's good. That's a good number. Two, that's a
Speaker 5: good number.
Speaker 2: But he said, hold on, He said, why you messing
Speaker 2: with the twenty five year olds when you thirty seven?
Speaker 3: So what's the difference between eleven and twelve.
Speaker 1: I think I'm not one of those that always paid
Speaker 1: attention to numbers. That there are people that you're able
Speaker 1: to deal with, there are people that are that are there.
Speaker 1: There are more high maintenance, and you have women that
Speaker 1: you can deal with that are less maintenance. And because
Speaker 1: it's you, they're gonna be excited to deal with you anyway.
Speaker 1: And when you go twenty five and younger or twenty
Speaker 1: five and like up in that end, up in the area.
Speaker 5: You ain't got to do much. You ain't got to
Speaker 5: do much. You ain't got you ain't got to do much.
Speaker 3: Well, Drake, keep living your life. Joe, Joe, Joe B.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 2: I love your podcast. But I'm I'm I'm a rock
Speaker 2: with I'm an rock with Drake on this.
Speaker 5: Listen, Joe, I love you, Drake, I love you. Man,
Speaker 5: y'all just keep doing.
Speaker 3: He don't know it. Don't drink.
Speaker 2: He's just trying to be politically correct. He's swistler. He'll
Speaker 2: he fitted fitting, he right down. He's swistler. He don't
Speaker 2: want no beef. I ain't never ain't never picked up
Speaker 2: no weapon with the world with nobody. I'm on your side.
Speaker 2: I'm on your side. I like you too.
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not I'm to watch it. I'm not
Speaker 5: in the beef only be for from McDonald's.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: People up saying that your door standards for clapping back
Speaker 2: in the Arizona State. Second, but hold on, I guarantee
Speaker 2: you some of the people that are upset at your
Speaker 2: door with love. When Johnny Manziel was doing this, the right.
Speaker 5: When Baker Mayfie Bakery, Baker Mayfield. Oh, man, I was
Speaker 5: loving that. I was loving it. I would love in
Speaker 5: to Johnny in with the man, don't stop nothing, don't
Speaker 5: stop nothing. You doing continue.
Speaker 2: I'm trying, I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 2: why Danny Canell has been so outspoken, because you know.
Speaker 5: Prime Wa, Yeah, you're the state, Danny Canell, Yeah, Prime,
Speaker 5: and you doer.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Dan, Danny then Danny Wait, Florida State, Prime,
Speaker 1: Florida State. Oh, that might be something that might be
Speaker 1: a little person in there, man, that might be a
Speaker 1: little personally.
Speaker 3: And you remember when Baker was on the sideline, he grabbed.
Speaker 5: His cross Oh yeah, oh yeah, hit him with the
Speaker 5: Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna get you out of you. We're gonna
Speaker 2: get out of here on this one. Mario Crystal Crystal ball.
Speaker 5: What they doing? Come on now, what we doing? Man,
Speaker 5: bro take a knee? What we're doing?
Speaker 3: Take a knee? Why you going?
Speaker 2: Oh we teach Boston. We get both hands on the
Speaker 2: ball now. The officials said, nah, you be domb We're
Speaker 2: gonna be dumb.
Speaker 4: Too.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, he was down then he you know
Speaker 1: he was down. I know you saw the replay. His
Speaker 1: elbow is down. I'm not sure what the I don't know.
Speaker 5: What they was doing. I can't reward negative behavior, but
Speaker 5: I understand. I don't know what they're doing. Especially we're
Speaker 5: trying to we're trying to change. We're trying to change
Speaker 5: the culture in the environment on the University of Football
Speaker 5: at Miami.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you how you change it? When? When?
Speaker 3: Because what was what was um known for in the eighties? Winning?
Speaker 5: Winning?
Speaker 2: That's what got him on the mountain, having when they
Speaker 2: beat Nebraska in the National title game, and that starts.
Speaker 2: That started it because that was Bernie Cosar and and
Speaker 2: that crew in hot Smith and Mele Brandon and all
Speaker 2: that started to get the blade boards and they got
Speaker 2: Michael Irv and then they got it.
Speaker 5: Opened the floodgate up, and they kept on going.
Speaker 2: So that's all you got to do is win. And
Speaker 2: you see the guy on the sideline, he asked, w
Speaker 2: t F were doing. I'm asking myself and I'm in
Speaker 2: my bedroom, what the WTL are y'all doing?
Speaker 3: I ain't crying, though.
Speaker 5: But I was asking you. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 5: know what that.
Speaker 1: I mean, cheaching ball security and all that stuff means nothing.
Speaker 5: The whole point. You want to win. You want to
Speaker 5: win the game. You're taking the As a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: seeing stuff like that, it makes me think somebody throwing
Speaker 5: the game away.
Speaker 3: Man, I don't even even think like that.
Speaker 5: I'm listening.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying as a coach, your job at the
Speaker 1: end of the day is to do what you're doing
Speaker 1: is to win the game.
Speaker 5: So who does that in that moment? Who does that?
Speaker 3: Somebody trying to get too cute. Somebody think they know
Speaker 3: more than anybody.
Speaker 2: Else, they're the smartest coach ever and just had the
Speaker 2: worst had that might have been one of the worst
Speaker 2: coaching this college coaching decision that we'll ever see. That
Speaker 2: won't top Darryl Bellll and Pete Carroll and the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl throwing on the one yard line.
Speaker 3: But in college you got to find one worse than
Speaker 3: that one.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, that was that was bad. That was
Speaker 5: real bad.
Speaker 2: That was that was that was downright awful. And then
Speaker 2: the man gonna have to say, we talk about two hands.
Speaker 3: On the ball.
Speaker 2: Really, really, if I was the running t the running
Speaker 2: back should have just got it and went down. He
Speaker 2: should have sleep. He should have seed the quarterback slide
Speaker 2: into the line.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, you know what the quarterback should have done.
Speaker 1: He should have been forgetting play call and just took
Speaker 1: me on his own.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. That what he should have cost them kids
Speaker 3: a game. Don't you cost him a game.
Speaker 2: It's hard enough to win a game without my coach,
Speaker 2: but my coach helping them. That said, damn, thank you
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Speaker 5: said you saw Jimmy Smith tweet you and tell you
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Speaker 3: Day count contests. All I can go by eyes.
Speaker 5: Okay, go back.
Speaker 1: He read your ass and read the tweets. I told you,
Speaker 1: I told you what they will tell. They will tell
Speaker 1: you theyself. Now, don't play with sugar. These feat something serious, man.
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