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Speaker 1: with Russo I had my routine. I went out and performed,

429
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Speaker 1: they laughed, the commentato showed up, and I never got

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Speaker 1: booked as a model again. They're like hire as a comedian.

431
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Speaker 1: In addition to that, I entered into a beauty paget

432
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Speaker 1: for plus sized women and the the talent competition, I

433
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: was stumped me. I was like, I don't know what

434
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. And I was like, I know, I'll

435
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Speaker 1: do a comedy routine and I did and I won

436
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Speaker 1: first runner up. And from that moment on, I was like,

437
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Speaker 1: I see and feel the love that I'm getting from

438
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Speaker 1: an audience, this is what I should be doing. What

439
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying that sometimes what you're meant to do finds you.

440
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Speaker 1: I was absolutely, it always does, whether you absolutely when

441
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Speaker 1: you do it. It does. It's not work. It's what

442
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: you're called. It's you're calling, it's what you've been doing.

443
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Speaker 1: You So then to me, the obvious thought would be

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Speaker 1: I'm just listening to jail this story. Why like, immediately

445
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Speaker 1: I'll be an actress. Was that the next thought? No,

446
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: it was I'll be a comedian because I wanted to

447
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Speaker 1: after you after you knew you were a comedian and

448
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Speaker 1: you can do that where you're like, I might as

449
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: well act. Yeah, But I didn't. I don't think I

450
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: thought it through. I just took the next step and

451
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Speaker 1: the next step and the next step. It was really

452
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: let me go do stand up. And I wanted to

453
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Speaker 1: be a comedic actress, meaning I wanted to be Carol Burnett.

454
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Speaker 1: And by the time I figured out who Whoopie Goldberg was,

455
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I think I want to do that,

456
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: And so it became I'm gonna use comedy and oh,

457
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: there's this acting piece of it. But truthfully, I didn't

458
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Speaker 1: think I was going to become an actor on Broadway,

459
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, like you know and maybe listen, I'd like

460
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Speaker 1: that to happen one day. Let me speak that into existence.

461
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: But I want to be a funny girl who gets

462
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: to be funny. And then when in Living Color came along,

463
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: it was the perfect um marriage of everything because Keenan

464
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: went looking for comedians who could do characters, and I

465
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Speaker 1: could do that, and so it was it wasn't like

466
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Speaker 1: I'm going to become an actress. It was like, I'm

467
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: just gonna be a funny girl and do my thing.

468
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: And so that's how the acting piece came into place,

469
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: because I was doing my version of you know, every

470
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: sketch I got to do, I got to be a different,

471
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: different character, and so I wasn't preparing to be a

472
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Speaker 1: prespian on the stage. I actually did with theater, or

473
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: as Black folks say, theater, but much much much later

474
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Speaker 1: in my career. So you know, that was my my

475
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: way in So looking back, wow, wow, wow, what a

476
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: great what a great trajectory. When I hear stories like this,

477
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: it's always are encouraging because it was just meant to

478
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: be like you were, You were meant to be for

479
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: for for what you are doing. I always people you said,

480
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: your career can find you, but it was meant to be.

481
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: There was nothing else set for Kim Cole's but this

482
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: when you think about all the television roles that you have,

483
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: the acting roles, the roles in which you were like,

484
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go audition for this. Is there one that

485
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: stands out outside of a Living Color? Is there one

486
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: that says too, I mean living single? Is there an

487
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: other one Keenan that threw me off? There one? Is

488
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: there one that stands out to you that You're like,

489
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: that is it? I would love to do more of that.

490
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: You know, I haven't done as much drama, um and

491
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: and partially because I've been afraid of it. Give me

492
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: the comedy, and people say that comedy is so much harder.

493
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: It's not me. Uh, I haven't done as much drama

494
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: as I'd like to and and so here's what happened.

495
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: Um Me, in the middle of the pandemic, I get

496
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: a call from my agent going Robin Gibbons wants to

497
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: talk to you know, I'm like, uh, does she know

498
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: I imitated her on a Living Color as she does

499
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: which I found out later she probably used to do

500
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: it right right, especially you know, she was just really

501
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: really not treat it very well during her time right

502
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: after Mr. Tyson and and now I've got to know her.

503
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: Um but anyway, Um, she like what you call him,

504
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: Mr Tyson. I don't want to incur his rep you

505
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: right about that? Go ahead, I could tell the story.

506
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: There's a story I've never told. I don't think I've

507
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: ever told publicly. Um. I was opening for Luther Van

508
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: Dross after in Living Color. After I left in Living Color,

509
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: and Mike Tyson came to the concert and we were all,

510
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, the crew and you know the band, and

511
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: everybody was in the parking lot getting ready to um

512
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: get on the bus and go to the next place.

513
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: And Mike Tyson and one of his friends came up

514
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, you know, I'm having a party at

515
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: my hotel room. You know you want to come to

516
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: my party. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no,

517
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: I gotta get on See that bus right there, I

518
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: got to get on the bus. No, no, sure, I

519
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: will not be attending a party with you. No, no, no,

520
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: no no. I can't I say something in this this

521
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: busies and no, by no means could I even compare.

522
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure and I wish that I

523
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: could say I will have an illustrious career such as yours.

524
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: But there are those moments where we have said no,

525
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: we have said no, and we have been we had

526
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: said God bless, I said no, like I I am not.

527
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Aren't you happy? And we could talk about that, you know,

528
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I did with Robin Gives

529
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: in a minute. But I'll say this, and this is

530
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: one of the one of the things, one of the

531
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Speaker 1: pieces of advice I give to people all the time.

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00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: If you're asking, go your yes is. Your nose can

533
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: be just as powerful as your yeses. And let your

534
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: nose be nos and your yes b yes is. There

535
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: are things I said yes to them, like why do

536
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 1: I say yesterday? Oh? I needed a check? And if

537
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: I needed a check, then it was never the thing

538
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: I should be doing. And there are things I said

539
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: no to that I am so grateful. I said no too,

540
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: because I let space for something else to come through.

541
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let that one go ahead, pass me through

542
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: because something else is coming up. There's there's a movie

543
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: that I will not mention what it is because there

544
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: are people who said yes to it. My agent sent

545
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: me the script and I was like, I cannot do

546
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: this move no, no, no, thank you. It was an

547
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: ensemble piece. It's funny it's beloved in the African American community.

548
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: And for me, I was, God, I'm gonna let this

549
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: one go. And there are people who did it and

550
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: did it, did it well. It just wasn't my energy

551
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: to be in to be in that and so and

552
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: I had to educate them on why this was not

553
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: something that I could do, and they understood and then

554
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: they never sent me anything like that ever again. And

555
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: I was grateful. So let your nose be no. And

556
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: you have to trust, trust what you're building, and trust

557
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: that something else will come through that will be the

558
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: perfect thing for you. And I can tell you without

559
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: fail if I go back and look at the nose,

560
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: some other yes came through that was like just right

561
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: for me. That's so beautiful. So that's encouraging because when

562
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: I say no, I feel like, dam did I mess

563
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: that up? But you're right. If it's really just amount

564
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: of money, whether I need to check or not, I

565
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: don't need to do it. Like, if it's just about

566
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: the money, I should just say that's not really so well,

567
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: but but the money. And I was to say, but

568
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: there are some things where you're just like, well, I

569
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say no to that. That's that's stupid, like

570
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: that's money. I can't say none to that. That's silly.

571
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: You know it's not really gonna affect the big plan plan,

572
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. We have to pay the bills. You

573
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: know how this works. Your girl has to get paid.

574
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: So when we come back. Actress, comedian, game show hosts,

575
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: all of the above, entre pay nor entrepreneur Kim cloves

576
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: back in a moment. Every champion and care. Every champion

577
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: is to be a champion, a champion and carry chappion,

578
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: Andy care with chapiyond a champion and carry Chappion and

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00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: carry chappiates and sports and then the team making make

580
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: it work. Every chappion and carry chappion is to be

581
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Speaker 1: a champion, a champion. They carry champion and champion and

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00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: they care and welcome back. We're giving out government names.

583
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Kim Lashanda Coles on Naked. She's got more to share,

584
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: so listen up. Back to drama. So you original class

585
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: member of Living Color and Living Color. You also obviously

586
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: we I've been talking about living living single, but you're

587
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: saying you wanted to do more drama, and and and

588
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: Robin came to you and said, I have a movie.

589
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: I want to give you this role. Uh what So

590
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: I've been watching you. I know that you can do this.

591
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have to audition. No, I

592
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: know that you can do this. Now do I get

593
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: to be humorous in the movie? I do. It's coming out,

594
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: I think for Christmas. I think it's called The Jenkin

595
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 1: Family Christmas or something. I don't know. But you know,

596
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: to get to work with Regina Taylor, I mean, who

597
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: is a drama not a drama queen, but she does drama.

598
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, who, my goodness, and she's no,

599
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: I know you can do this. And there were moments

600
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: actually the last night, the last shot of the night.

601
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why Robin waited for the last moment

602
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: for me to have my big, you know, intense scene

603
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: about my father passing away and how I felt about

604
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: I was like, man, and she got in my face.

605
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: You could do this, you could do this, Like get

606
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: out of my face, lady. She got up this big

607
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: and she was like, it crows you for this moment.

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00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: Get in there and do it. I was saying yes,

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00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: Robin Gibbins, And I'm so grateful to her for saying

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00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: yes to me without me even knowing that I could

611
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: do this. I feel that I got to stretch my

612
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: wings and she was there holding my hand, even if

613
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: she was in my face, and because it was something

614
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: I did, she stopped all the camera stop it, Kim here,

615
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: come here, like yes, Robin Givings. It was so wonderful,

616
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: and she believed in me as a director and said, no,

617
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: you got this, just do it like this, and I

618
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: don't care if we have to do it line by line.

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00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: I was like, it's already six o'clock in the morning,

620
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: so I don't care. We will go into overtime. We

621
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: were already in overtime. You're like, don't even matter. So

622
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: so did you? Were you nervous as you were doing

623
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: the scene. Because as a comedian, I can um it's

624
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: a comfortable cloak that I can put on. Yeah, I

625
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: know you say make this funny. It may not be

626
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: the way you would do it, but I know how

627
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: to take something and turn it and make it funny.

628
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: And I'm comfortable in that. Realm drama is something that uh,

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Speaker 1: I never really took classes. I took a couple of classes,

630
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Speaker 1: but I didn't I didn't like the teacher. I didn't

631
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: like where he was going. I didn't like that he

632
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: was infusing his drama on us. It was like, I

633
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: don't want to hear your problems. I just want to

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00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: learn how to say these words in a way that

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00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: sounds effective. And so I didn't really haven't really stretched

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00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: that muscle, and Robin gives givens and I've had a

637
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: few other opportunities over the years, but this was. You know,

638
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: I was number two on a call sheet, and my

639
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: actors in the room will know what that is like

640
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: to be number two. That's a big deal. You're right

641
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: up there, You're right at the top, right at the top.

642
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: And I've never been that on a movie, and certainly

643
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: not in a dramatic experience. So do that mean you

644
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: got to boss people around? No? I never do, kidding,

645
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: I just do the way you want me to be. No.

646
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing I've learned, too, So excuse

647
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: me that yes is in the nose. And the other

648
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: thing is that when you when you reach a certain

649
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: position of power or perceived power, or your number one

650
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: or number two on the call sheet, that is the

651
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: time to be even kinder, to be Nights areing to

652
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: be less demanding, like they're gonna feed you, They're gonna

653
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: take care of you. You're not going to be cold

654
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: like you just ask for what you want but without

655
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: going I want to get my son. And so it's

656
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: just it's it's it's not necessary to be that way.

657
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: And I've worked with people who are you know, so

658
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: called divas or difficult and it just makes everyone tense,

659
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: Like you get what you want, ma'am or sir, but

660
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: you've made everybody around you tense. The truth is we're

661
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: all here to do the same thing. And the p

662
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: A was getting your coffee from my perspective, is just

663
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: important to this production as hey don't tell directors I

664
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: said this, but just as important as for the flow

665
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: of the production as so, no, I really the kinder

666
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: I get, by the way, and and I have noticed

667
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: and it doesn't go for everybody, but people, Oh, people

668
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: live by that, like what you're saying, people live by that,

669
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: because I I don't. In our world is different, Television,

670
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: live TV is different. Being a journalist is different. But

671
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: we did do a production where my my my co

672
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: host Jamal Hill and I were at the top of

673
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: the call sheet and I remember we would go out

674
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: of our way to be kind because if in fact,

675
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: we did have a bad You're right, if we had

676
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: a bad day, or if I had a bad day,

677
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: everyone felt it and it was a trickle down syndrome

678
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: and people were nervous and I don't want that energy. However,

679
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: how do you handle Because this is some career advice

680
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: you can give me and for those who don't, who really,

681
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: because don't get it? What about the if you ever

682
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: found yourself on on set and the show runner, if

683
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: you will, um whoever the director may be in your case,

684
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: is battling you and making you uncomfortable? How do you

685
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: handle that? Like like purposely you're at the top of

686
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: the calle sheet, you're at the number two on the

687
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: call sheet and not And I'm not using Robin as

688
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: an example, but I'm just saying, and someone's just giving

689
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: you a hard time because they want to show that

690
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: they are actually in charge. How do you handle that?

691
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: Because that, to me could lead to a tent environment

692
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, you have those people who have ego, right, So,

693
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: by the way, Robbin's getting in my face was not ego.

694
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: It was oh no, she was trying to encourage you know,

695
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: she was like, you got this and I'm gonna make

696
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: it out of you and you, I promise you this

697
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: is why I chose you. I just want to make

698
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: sure I've made that distinction. Um. There are you know,

699
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: egos and lots of egos, and I've I've run into

700
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: that here and there, and I've learned now to go um,

701
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: to have some sort of compassion for them, because your

702
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: need to flex means somewhere in your life you felt

703
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: that you needed to flex and you've decided this is

704
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: the place you're gonna do. Let let everybody know I'm

705
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: in charge of this, Mamma, gemma. Yeah, And I'm like,

706
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: you want to work that hard. We're all in this together,

707
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: and so you come across those personalities and you, um,

708
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm not one to This is not a good answer,

709
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: and I'm not wanting to fight it. If you need

710
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: that position so bad, then I'm gonna bend. I'm gonna

711
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: bend with it. I'm gonna choose my battles. You know,

712
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: I've been in that position when they go just read

713
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: the lines as written. Okay, you're missing the magic that

714
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: I want to bring to this. But if you want

715
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: me to read it as written, then done. Like you know,

716
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: I'll at some point just like, okay, you're missing the man.

717
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: Then you want it so bad your way, then let

718
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: me give it to your way. Let me play. May

719
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: I play? And sometimes I think to ask those people

720
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: permission and they're like, I just would play a little

721
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: bit or give me some some wiggle room here. Either

722
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: they will they want. And I'm sort of known to

723
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: be a sweetheart with people. I know how to, you know,

724
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: be sweet and and and get what I want in

725
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: the end. And in the end, what we want is

726
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: a as a project that that works beautifully. Um, And

727
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: I just stay out of the way of the people

728
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: with the giant, giant egos. That's a beautiful answer. Like

729
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: I'll bend. If that's what you need, you got it,

730
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Because if I'm not gonna fight,

731
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fight that stressful. I'm gonna pick my battles.

732
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: And there have been times when I've had like, no,

733
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: I really believe in and you know, in the end, um,

734
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm a love or not a fighter. Yeah, And one thing, okay,

735
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: I am a fighter. But that was a lesson for

736
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: me because I'm like, okay, you know, it's always better

737
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: to stand down when you already know it is. It's like,

738
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: all right, you got it, all right. I don't need distress.

739
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: And maybe there's been times when I should have should

740
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: have fought more. I think who I am today would

741
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: have maybe pushed back a little bit more some of

742
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: those other situations. But this I don't need it. I

743
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: know this is temporary. I know this is not gonna

744
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: last forever. And I know I'm going home two friends

745
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: and family and maybe a boyfriend or husband or next

746
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: husband who loves me in depending where we were, I

747
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: don't have to fight with Wait, let's make that transition.

748
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: Wait time about before we make that transition. I'm looking

749
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: at some of the shows you've been on, some I

750
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: mean some amazing shows. Obviously Frasier, Dr Mary Thomas, six

751
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: ft Under, Um did gena David show that was a

752
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: while ago. Was that? So these are all the six

753
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: ft under that was life changing television. It was great television.

754
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you one of my right iconic right,

755
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: one of my favorite opportunities was working with Kelsey Grammar

756
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: on Frasier and I got a chance to be true

757
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: that he has a question a lot of black girls.

758
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: I think he enjoys black women. I think he enjoys um.

759
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: You know, he we talked about um, you know, because

760
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: he was at the helm of UM, oh my god,

761
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: what's the show with a girlfriend? Was a girlfriend? Yeah, yeah, exactly,

762
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit about that. He's just

763
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, he said, Joan is frasier she is, and

764
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: he talked about, you know, the differences in the and

765
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: the and the So I just think he I think

766
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: he loves people. I don't. I don't think he's afraid

767
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: of women or is uncomfortable around women. He was warm

768
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: and delicious every morning, like just sweety pie. I mean,

769
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: not at all rude or he didn't come onto me anything,

770
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: but just here's an example of somebody who's at the

771
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: top of the food chain. And I watched him be

772
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: kind to everyone, and you know, they moved that show

773
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: move moved like this moved quickly because they knew each other.

774
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: They knew, you know, their strengths and weaknesses. And it

775
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: reminded me of living single, Like we got each other's

776
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: strengths really quickly. I knew that I could throw the

777
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: ball and somebody would catch it and throw it. It

778
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: was just I thought that was a really beautiful thing

779
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, I love it. I love that and

780
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: and and I you know, as little brown girls, when

781
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: somebody's paying it gives us a little extra love like

782
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: somebody know it. You know we have we know we did.

783
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: We shared his breakfast with me every morning. Would you

784
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: like some of my turkey, Patty Kim? Would I talk

785
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: about somebody who had a very tragic childhood and young

786
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: like I think he witnessed his father kill his mother

787
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: and there was lots of pain in his family. But

788
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: when he came when those two episodes I did with him,

789
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: you didn't see any of that terror. Love and let's play. Oh.

790
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: I like the way you said that, come on, do

791
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: that again. That was great, It was, it was fantastic.

792
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: I love that in the encouraging and giving you that

793
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: privilege and freedom to do what you want to do.

794
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: I love that. That's a great That's a great no

795
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: Kelsey shout out, appreciate it. So you said early at

796
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: the top of the podcast, you said you found the

797
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: love of your life and y'all only were outside for

798
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: a month one month, and then you moved in and

799
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: you was like most people break up. You I was like,

800
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: we stand how tell me give give all the young ladies,

801
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: the career gal some hope and some love and some inspiration.

802
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: How you find without give me all your business or

803
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: out to me, how you trying to love in your life?

804
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: A month before the pandemic, I love it lightful. So

805
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: we actually started working together. He was my brand manager

806
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: business manager. I hired his team to help me with

807
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: my branding in this other world that I'm in, which

808
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about UM, and I just liked him.

809
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: I developed this crush on him. We would meet on

810
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: zoom and meanwhile, he lives in Los Angeles and I

811
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles. But who wants to beat traffic?

812
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: You just meet over zoom And I just found myself

813
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: developing this crush. I just broken up with my husband.

814
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: I was gone through a divorce. I just was like,

815
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm ready to be single and Mango and just something

816
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: about him was he's super smart, super funny, super kind.

817
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: And we developed a friendship. And then we started traveling

818
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: together because he wanted to come on the road with

819
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: me to see what it's like to um. Because I'm

820
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: a speaker also, so I would go and speak and

821
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: then sell my workshops or books or products at the

822
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: back of the room, as we like to say. He says,

823
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: let me just see what your systems are so that

824
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: I can set up some new systems and find hire

825
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: someone to go on the road with you. And he

826
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: started going on the road with me, and it was

827
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: so pleasant. I was like, please, don't come off the

828
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: road music. But this is not gonna always be the case.

829
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: I can't always take time out of my business to

830
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: do this. But okay, it just it just happen. You

831
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: just friendship, friendship, friendship, friendship. I have a crush from you,

832
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: he told He's told me a thousand times. I had

833
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: a strict policy of not even date. I don't ever

834
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: date any of my clients. And he didn't. He says,

835
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: I didn't see you as a girl. And one time

836
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: I showed up to one of the meetings with my

837
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: hair wrapped up and wrapped and you know, I don't

838
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: probably have cold in my eyes. Oh my goodness, I'm sorry.

839
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: Was ready for the mess. Oh please, you're my sister.

840
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, so, here's what happened. I said

841
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: to myself, if I step into this sister role with

842
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: this man, I'll keep him forever. Any man that I

843
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: am brother and sister, like with we our relationships last

844
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: war forever. If somehow that crosses over and he becomes

845
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: a boyfriend orr husband, it could go terribly wrong. So

846
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: I tried to be his sister. I was like, hey, brother,

847
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: how can you never quite felt right? And so one

848
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: time we had a gig in Atlanta and I looked

849
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: really cute this time. Okay, okay, okay, okay, what was

850
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: you wearing? How is your hair? What would you do?

851
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Su red and right? It was called the Bronze Lens. Uh,

852
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: it's a festival, the Bronze Lens. Do you know about

853
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: the Bronze Lens. I do not. It's really beautiful. It's

854
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: a celebration of us and film and film made by

855
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: us and interesting and you know they honor different people

856
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: and go one year in Lynn Whitie'll be sitting next

857
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: to Lynn Whitfield or you know, you know mc light

858
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: or you know, it's just really I love it. I

859
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: was the host and I wore a red jumpsuit with

860
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: power red power red, and you know, like all kinds

861
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: of spanks and I had had because it was, oh,

862
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: all kinds of spanks, because I mean, and then you

863
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: have to pee. So it's like, you know, de hydrate yourself.

864
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: So I lost a couple of pounds by not drinking

865
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: eating water. And you know this red jumpsuit and lots

866
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: of bronze because it's the bronze line. I had Golden

867
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: made my shoulders bronze. And he said to me later on,

868
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: he says, I the first time I noticed you were

869
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: a girl. He was like, okay, okay, get that out,

870
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: get get it out, get it up. And still the

871
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: friendship was growing, the business was growing, and finally, um

872
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: I told him I had a crush on him. I

873
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: just had to get it out. And he said to me, oh, okay,

874
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: that's nice, thank you. But he didn't crush me. He

875
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: just said, well, thank you. I'm so I'm so flattered,

876
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much. He's since told me that he

877
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: went back to his room and he was like, oh

878
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, he's a crush for me. I think I

879
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: like her too. What am I gonna do? What we do?

880
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: And we had a conversation about it, and he says,

881
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: I think I would like to date you, but here's

882
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're gonna date and and and

883
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: I literally let him take the lead. I'm not saying that,

884
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: you know that makes me in a less feminist or strong.

885
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah we but yeah right, but it made me realize

886
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: here was somebody who cared for me enough and cared

887
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: about our friendship enough to go, we're not gonna move fast,

888
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: We're just gonna date. We're not gonna even kiss. I

889
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: was like, okay, okay, I just want to be around you.

890
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: I don't care how it goes down. And we spent

891
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: several months like in this place of just dating and

892
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: and and and no kissing until he did. Wait a second,

893
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: So you guys dated for several months kissing, no hand holding?

894
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: Uh maybe a couple maybe a month, maybe a month

895
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: of no kissing. Can we know he's you'll like this.

896
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: We did that conversation that kids have about first base,

897
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: second base, third base at home right, So I guess

898
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: first base is holding hands and kissing or something. Second

899
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: basis rubb a dub dubbing, and third basis I don't know,

900
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: rubb a dub dubbing with no panties on. I don't know.

901
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm too old to remember all the basis and home bases,

902
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, full on sexual content. Definitely, I'm telling this story.

903
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: So there was one night where he asked me if

904
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: he could kiss me. And this is a you know,

905
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm your twelve years difference, you know, I'm you know whatever,

906
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: he's twelve years younger than Okay, hey, I like, come

907
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: me on to go. Hey, it's it's helpful in their way.

908
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: The joke who always says, I don't have time to

909
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: crush up your viagras. I want to do your bitterness. Yeah,

910
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: go ahead, yeah, And you have to discuss things like,

911
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, how do you like your Chateaubrion. You know,

912
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to. I don't want I

913
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: don't want to know anything about your casier. No, I

914
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: don't know. Go ahead, keep your crown. That could be

915
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: any age, but go ahead. And that little bag that

916
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: they say, why is this bag still here? Is empty

917
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: purple velvet bags in it? You put things in Okay,

918
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: they always store things in it. I think you store

919
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: things in it. I guess you know it comes in

920
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: handy and man that has pretty empty crown bags. And

921
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: we're really not going to get along, but you know

922
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: it comes if they keep the bag they do. Why

923
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: why what are you gonna put in the bag? I

924
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: think I knew a guy that kept something. I don't

925
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: even kept his or something in the bag because it's

926
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: a quality bag, no doubt all the Crown bag is,

927
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: it's velvet, it's quality. J had no Crown bags, thank god.

928
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: This night he asked if he could kiss me with

929
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: came home from a date. He asked me if he

930
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: could kiss me, and I said sure, and we had

931
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: this beautiful, sweet kiss and he he's gonna tease me

932
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: for telling he yelled the words first base and then

933
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: ran into the night with me and went first base

934
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: and ran and jump. Is he cute or was I

935
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: should I have been concerned because I was like, because

936
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: he's so smart, he's so aware, and he's got he's

937
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: got his doctorate in business. He's so I thought, Oh,

938
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: this guy is a little Oh that's why he was

939
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: moving slow, because maybe he's a little still in his

940
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: sexual growth. First base? Did you put him on a spectrum?

941
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: You thought he might have? I didn't know what he

942
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know in that moments. We were like perhaps, oh,

943
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 1: because we got that and we've laughed about it, he says.

944
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: I just it was a joke because he was letting

945
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: letting me know first base when he was on because

946
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: everything else was all in place, I was like, oh,

947
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: he's sexually repressed. We're gonna have arrested development. I see right,

948
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: right right, And of course that was turned out not

949
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: so not to be the case, but it was a

950
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: joke that he was like, I just wanted to respect

951
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: you or respect our friendship. I will to respect our work.

952
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: And we worked it out and disgusted and here's what's

953
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: what's cool. He is the most amazing partner. We formed

954
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: a partnership first. It's the thing I've always wanted. And

955
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: what I would say to anyone who's looking to date

956
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: is to be really clear about what you really really

957
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: really really really want and need. So I could say,

958
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, we were like, I

959
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: want to day somebody who don't still wear a sneakers,

960
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, or you know, so what if he's an

961
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: NBA player, that's what he were, he wear sneakers all

962
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: the time. Whatever. It's to be careful and be careful

963
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: in choosing what qualities you want you're made to have.

964
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: And after my last marriage, I realized that what I

965
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: really wanted was partnership. My parents had partnership for seventeen

966
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: years before they got divorced. And I was like, that's it, Universe,

967
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: bring me partnership and God. And so we actually UM

968
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: work together. He works on my brand, we've built I

969
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: think products together and it works beautifully. And here we

970
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: were thrust together during this pandemic. And because he's mature

971
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: in UM, he's you know, done the spiritual work. He's

972
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: done and continues to do. He's on this. That's the key.

973
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: They gotta do the work. They gotta do the work.

974
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: If they don't want to do the work, you can't

975
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: meet me. I'm already beyond you. And I'm willing to

976
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: do the work. Yes, and I'm willing to do the work.

977
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: And and it's the reason why. And he even says

978
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: this to me, I'm so grateful for all the things

979
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: you are and all the things you aren't. UM. I

980
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: chose not to be bit. I chose not to hold

981
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: onto every bad or not so good relationship, and I

982
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: learned something from every one of them. I look at

983
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: myself in the mirror all the time and go, what

984
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: could I have done differently? How does this what's my

985
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: shadow side of this situation? And because I was willing

986
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: to examine myself. He was like, we can do this,

987
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: and so that's it. I love it. I love well.

988
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: First of all, I thought it was romantic that he

989
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: yeld first base and run off. I would have fell out,

990
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: laughing and fall and been like, I'm in love right now.

991
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: That would have been my reaction. Where'd you go? But

992
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: it was almost a little like, oh, this is weird you.

993
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: But now I understand that that was his way of saying,

994
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: we made it the first base girlfriend. He did not

995
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: have a purple velvet bag, and he didn't put up

996
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: like that's all that matters. Are you one? You have one? Kim,

997
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: you have one? Um I, you mentioned your business, tell

998
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: me about this business, and I also want to talk

999
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: about the surreal life this news. Yes, yes, so um I.

1000
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say at the beginning of this

1001
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: when we started talking is that you have to learn, uh.

1002
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: And what I did during the pandemic was to pivot

1003
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: on on purpose, pivot on purpose. And I began pivoting

1004
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: back when you know, living single ended, when work became

1005
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: more sporadic. I was like, what other gifts and talents

1006
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: do I have that I can put forth in the

1007
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: world where I don't have to wait for Hollywood to

1008
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: call me. I hope that Hollywood continues to call, but

1009
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: if they don't, I'm okay because I'm using my gifts

1010
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: and talents another way, other ways. And so I'm a speaker,

1011
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm a coach. And what's interesting is I've got to

1012
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: several programs, I should say, but two memberships, and one

1013
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: is called wait for it Community Mastermind, get it Community. Okay,

1014
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: I am you and I t y. I have something

1015
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: else called which in the community Mastermind is for my entrepreneurs.

1016
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: My entrepreneurs, my people who are building their businesses from

1017
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: the from from the ground up or learning to scale

1018
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: their businesses. And so e J DOTR e J and

1019
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: I coached them and meet with them weekly to get

1020
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: and keep their businesses on track. And on this other side,

1021
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: I've got something called wait for it, the Radiant Community

1022
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: get it also still which in the year stepping into

1023
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: our radiance you know, joy and vitality, self care and spirituality.

1024
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: And I create, you know, I'm curating this this group

1025
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: who wants to radiate joy in the world and wants

1026
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: to radiate positivity and excellence in the world. And so

1027
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: you could call me um a coach. You can call

1028
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: me and you know, Internet marketer, And I say that

1029
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: to say that I don't need Holly. I got Zoom,

1030
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, you know to be That's that's beautiful because

1031
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: you've been able to have these two separate lives and

1032
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: they don't intersect in a way that one can't respect

1033
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: you for the there that's beautiful. And sometimes when Kim

1034
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: Cole's um you know, opens the door and then people go,

1035
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: what is she working on now? And it's in alignment

1036
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: with who I've always been. And so I'm building what

1037
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: I call my kimpire, and my kimpire of you know,

1038
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: books and coaching and programs. I also help business owners

1039
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: to tell their story in a in a powerful, captivating way.

1040
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: Who better than an actress to help you tell your

1041
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: stories in a way that pulls people in. So you're

1042
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: not just saying by my bundles or you know, get

1043
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: my so and so. It's like, no, tell me the

1044
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: story of how you developed the so and so, and

1045
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: then I'm happy to to order one from you and

1046
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: so we we uh, we work on that together too.

1047
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: So that makes me happy. I got this whole of

1048
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: the world going that Sometimes it's so funny, I have

1049
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: an audition tomorrow. I'm like, let me check my schedule

1050
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: and see if I can fit that audition in and

1051
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: that side gig of acting. Yeah, I'm a that I

1052
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: get to do it all. And someone told me that

1053
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to do it all, and I

1054
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: was like, just don't tell me. Don't tell me what

1055
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: you can do it too. You can have be multi

1056
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: passionate and as I call you know, spin all the plates.

1057
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: Remember those old old Variety shows where they had the

1058
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: guy who spin one to spend the next and spend

1059
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: the next. We had to come and spend the next one.

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00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: So I'm spinning my plates and serving up deliciousness to all,

1061
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: and we need it. You have h I see it,

1062
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: said July. I don't know if it already happened. Are

1063
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: you filmed already? Would tell me about the reboot the well,

1064
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: the reboot of the Surreal Life was coming any minute now.

1065
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, folks. We shot for two and

1066
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: a half weeks in Mexico City. Let me tell you

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00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: who was there. Get Ready, I got Dennis Rodman, who

1068
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: is weird and wonderful and unapologetic for it. It's actually

1069
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: really courageous in a way, like he's super weird and

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00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: super un self conscious about it. You you, it's his

1071
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: world and we all live in it. That's like he's like,

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00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna change who I am. This is who

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00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: I am, and you you know, the first time I said,

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00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, Dennis, do you mind smoking your cigar outside?

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00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: He was like okay, And then he never went back

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00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: outside to smoke a cigar again. Like it was like,

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00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: I was like, we're just gonna put on some air

1078
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: for your five. We had Tamar Braxton, we had Stormy Daniels.

1079
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: That's interesting what we fought out about Stormy. Did she

1080
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: talk about the old press about them? Yes, she did.

1081
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: She did. You know, I'm sure she can't talk too

1082
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: much about him because you know, lawsuits will follow a

1083
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: lot about her, and I learned a lot about the

1084
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: porn industry stuff. You know. She was very open to

1085
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: talk about being naked, very open about talking. She was

1086
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: the biggest surprise to me. I thought, like, I don't

1087
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: know if gonna want what store me. I really interesting.

1088
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: Enjoyed her honesty, and she did talk a little bit

1089
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: about well, I love authenticity. If you leave with that,

1090
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna like that always wins, always wins. Okay,

1091
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: let's see, Oh I'll say, I'll say so c J.

1092
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say the best for last.

1093
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: But there was another one that was like, oh, okay,

1094
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: c J. Perry, who's a w W E fighter, Or

1095
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: was Manny Muay who's this incredible YouTube makeup artist you

1096
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: know Instagram, Like he's a big star for his makeup

1097
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: and he's gorgeous. Moons I say it that way, Moon

1098
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 1: Moon is Moon is from the Malcolm in the Middle

1099
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: who became I just fell in love with him, Like

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00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: he's a small man, but he's ten feet tall in

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00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: his integrity and his character. That's all I'll say. And uh,

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00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: who am I leaving in August Alsina? You know, I'll

1103
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: say this. When I first got into the house, I

1104
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: wasn't I didn't know who he was, and they took

1105
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: away at our devices so I couldn't google him. Man,

1106
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: he came to me and says, Kim, you know who

1107
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: that is. I know we've been trying to figure out

1108
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: who And I knew he was interesting, he was really fly,

1109
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: he's kind of cute. I knew he was an RB singer,

1110
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: but I didn't know. I wasn't sure because I don't

1111
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: I try not to get into all the all the gossipy,

1112
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: all the things. And he put me in the bathroom

1113
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: and says, you know who that is? And so then

1114
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: I spent the next two weeks trying not to say

1115
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: the word entanglement, which is why the word did anybody

1116
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: ever uses anyway? Like when it when's the laws thing?

1117
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: You've used that word I used to describe a relationship,

1118
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, no one uses it ever ever, But for

1119
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks to not use that word,

1120
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: because that's why. That's all I wanted to say. So

1121
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: he's also very interesting, uh and yeah, because I don't

1122
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: know how the show is gonna edit together, I can't

1123
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: tell you anything, but I'll just say, um, I found

1124
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: it a really interesting, really um cool and also somebody

1125
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: who's um ah, comfortable in his skin, comfortable in his

1126
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: way of being. That's what. That's a that that's it.

1127
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: It was quite and you know, you know, you go

1128
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: into the house thinking I'm gonna get my own bedroom,

1129
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: and things happening at personalities and you know, like I

1130
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: said that, I don't know how they're gonna edit the show,

1131
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: so I can't tell you anything. There's a thousand things

1132
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: I want to tell you, But well, we're gonna watch.

1133
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: It's happening any minute now, you said, right right now,

1134
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: like I'm waiting for the show. Uh, you know, for

1135
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: for our release state. I will say this. I may

1136
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: or may not have seeing Dennis Rodman naked, and it's

1137
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: a it's it's it's something I can't unsee. That's all

1138
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: in a good way or a bad way, in a

1139
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: good in a good bad It's not something I was

1140
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: going there to to witness. But if he walks through

1141
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: your room in the middle of the night with two hands,

1142
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: by the way, two hands, uh, that's an indications to

1143
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: what's two hands? It required two hands? He was a

1144
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: he's a gentleman about it and room and later on

1145
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: it was like four o'clock in the morning. I just

1146
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: pretended like I was asleep, so I don't know what.

1147
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: You know what our bedroom, he says, I had to

1148
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: go to bathroom. I thought I was in my old house,

1149
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: so he just wandered and used the resta and left

1150
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: with two hands. That's all I'll say. My mouth is

1151
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: open and I I don't know how I feel about

1152
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: that information. I don't know. He was not intentional, and

1153
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: nor was it intentional for him. I don't think it was.

1154
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody on the stuff. Let me call Carmon

1155
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: Elector see what she gotta say about all of this

1156
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: information you have delivered here speaking of Naked on Naked

1157
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: Streaking news. Two ants okay, in congratulations, Dennis, we can

1158
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: get you on the show. Oh man. Um, Kim Coles,

1159
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: thank you so much for drinking it's here on Naked.

1160
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: You have been nothing but a delight. I cannot wait

1161
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: to have this air. Um. The story about you and

1162
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: your boo is amazing. I'm sending you nothing but loving light.

1163
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: You don't need it, but you're getting it from me anyway.

1164
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: Thank you. I wish you all the best. You have

1165
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: a melodic, beautiful voice, a melodic beautiful face, and there's

1166
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: so much coming for you. I just feel it. I

1167
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: just feel it. You're You're so yummy, and so much

1168
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: is coming, and we need to stay connected when you

1169
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: come out, when we come outside, maybe we can meet

1170
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: for an adult beverage. I don't know. If you see

1171
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: my kind somebody who doesn't drink, you seem wholesome, not

1172
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: Crown roll. I don't drink much and drink it's not

1173
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: Crown Royal, thank you, okay, Nick, but you could be.

1174
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: It could be a sip of Crown Royal in your

1175
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: punch there that you have your teeth. Okay, that's fine.

1176
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: So we have had on the show him. Thank you.

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01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: By the way, you should always say thank you. We

1178
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: have had on this show. So many people who come

1179
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: to play, And what I mean by that is that

1180
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: they come on the show and they share, and that

1181
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: is incredibly hard to do. It's incredibly hard to be vulnerable.

1182
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: It's incredibly hard to share with a stranger because sometimes

1183
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't know these people. In fact, it's easier when

1184
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know you to ask questions. Um And when

1185
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: I talked to him and she is so light and easy,

1186
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: especially during this time. And by this time, I mean

1187
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: I feel as if everyone is dealing. I just feel

1188
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: as if emotions are heavy and we are feeling at

1189
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: such an all time high all everybody there. I visit

1190
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: a death in a family, um which recently I experienced,

1191
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: there is always um, something around the corner or in

1192
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: the midst of As I talked to my close friends

1193
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 1: and Kim was just light and I needed it and

1194
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: and and more importantly did she found her man during

1195
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: COVID or man she found her man during COVID. Ladies believe,

1196
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: believe it can happen. Thank you father, so again, I'm

1197
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: just grateful that she decided to come and bless us

1198
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: on the show and have some fun. I needed that

1199
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: moment to enjoy people, to laugh with people, and more importantly,

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01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: just to hear about their their walk. If you will

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01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: next week, I can't even tell y'all. I can't even

1202
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: tell you who's gonna be here next week. You know why,

1203
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: because y'all don't deserve it just yet. Unless you go

1204
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: ahead and leave the best reviews ever. Thank you say

1205
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: this is the best podcast. You love it? Review review

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Speaker 1: us to get paid aid. You guys, have a great,

1208
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: great day, whatever day of the week it is you're listening.

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01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you all for getting naked. Bye bye