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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Monday, November twenty six, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,
Speaker 1: episode number eighty five. Welcome to another edition of The
Speaker 1: Break live the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Amber's
Speaker 1: not joining us today, but I do have Nick and
Speaker 1: Dave Wooden. We're gonna talk to some Cowboys football. If
Speaker 1: you guys were about forty five minutes, we haven't had
Speaker 1: a chance to discuss that big win on Thanksgiving Day
Speaker 1: by the Dallas Cowboys. They win thirty one twenty three
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. Dave said, I mean, I'm sorry, Nick said
Speaker 1: before the game, they win that game to go on
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. So I overstay that a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little too thought it was just the Falcons games
Speaker 1: and you'll make the player, Okay, all right, I may
Speaker 1: have overstated that just just a bit, just a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they're there. Hey, right now things are looking positive
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. If if Seattle would have would
Speaker 1: have won the game or lost the game, wouldn't they
Speaker 1: have been a wildcard spot? Now Minnesota is still up
Speaker 1: there in Minnesota, Minnesota, and it's it's all. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I still think you have to win your
Speaker 1: division you get in. I tend to agree with you,
Speaker 1: but I mean, take a look around. I mean there's
Speaker 1: two ways you could think about it. If Carolina beats
Speaker 1: Seattle yesterday, then they take a pretty firm grip on
Speaker 1: the five seed. Yeah, and then so you're like, well,
Speaker 1: there's only one seed left. But now it's literally a
Speaker 1: jumble of teams with roughly six wins. The Vikings are
Speaker 1: six four and one, Seahawks are six and five, Panthers
Speaker 1: are six and five, Cowboys are six and five. I
Speaker 1: just think that Panthers and Seahawks though, that's but I
Speaker 1: just think that if the cow Boys or even the Redskins,
Speaker 1: if you get to the point where you're good enough
Speaker 1: to be in that wild card conversation, that will win
Speaker 1: your division. So probably probably so well, and it hurts
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They don't have tiebreakers against several of these teams,
Speaker 1: but with five games to play, all these records are
Speaker 1: the same. I mean their tiebreakers are going to be
Speaker 1: against the NFC East, so which I think would win
Speaker 1: their division. Yeah, it's I said this yesterday, like I can't.
Speaker 1: I picked the Cowboys to go nine and seven and
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs because I thought the NFC was so
Speaker 1: good that you were gonna have like five or six
Speaker 1: eleven win teams, you know, I mean the Vikings, what
Speaker 1: weakness did they have on paper before the season, The Saints,
Speaker 1: the Panthers, the Falcons, the Packers have Aaron Rodgers, so
Speaker 1: they have a chance. I thought about it the wrong way,
Speaker 1: like as an SEC fan, I should have thought about
Speaker 1: it that way. I've been like, oh, yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of each other, and nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: have more than nine or ten wins, which is exactly
Speaker 1: other than the Saints and the Rams. That's what it
Speaker 1: looks like, is what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah, they
Speaker 1: look like seven looks very good right now for the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does, and not because the interesting part about that
Speaker 1: is toughest names that got left are against one of
Speaker 1: them is in the conference, but the others outside of
Speaker 1: the conference, Indianapolis looking really good. Beyond that, I don't
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys have another team that has a winning
Speaker 1: record on their schedule, so they should be favored in
Speaker 1: every game. Maybe they're favored in the Indianapolis game, they
Speaker 1: should be favored in most of the games they got
Speaker 1: down the stretch. True, yep, so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that game, though. I want to start
Speaker 1: first with Ezekiel Elliott. This guy just continues to rack
Speaker 1: up yards and touches. This last game, he had twenty
Speaker 1: six rushers from one hundred and twenty one yards four
Speaker 1: point seven average in a touchdown, had six I'm sorry
Speaker 1: five catches for twenty two yards, gave him a total
Speaker 1: of thirty one touches on the day, with a total
Speaker 1: of one hundred and forty three yards from scrimmage. Here's
Speaker 1: my question for you. Guys are starting to get to
Speaker 1: a point where you're wondering if they're using him a
Speaker 1: bit too much, and maybe not, but I think it's
Speaker 1: a question worth asking because against Atlanti at thirty touches,
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia at twenty five, he is right now leading
Speaker 1: the NFL and touches ahead of Todd Gurley by about
Speaker 1: eleven and Barkley sequon Barkley's third and he's beaten, he's
Speaker 1: ahead of him by like eighteen. Um, so it's significant.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're starting to get to when you get
Speaker 1: to the third and fourth guy, that's probably a game
Speaker 1: worth the touches for the that guy. So are they
Speaker 1: starting to use him a bit much? And maybe they
Speaker 1: should consider the possibility of just trying to mix rod
Speaker 1: Smith in there a little bit more. You're just like, hey,
Speaker 1: if it's working, don't mess with it. I think they're
Speaker 1: using them a little too much, and I think that's
Speaker 1: all you can do. I mean, you got to get
Speaker 1: you your three and five. You're three to five team
Speaker 1: at the break, so you've got to ride, you know,
Speaker 1: ride the horse that that that's getting you there. And
Speaker 1: then and it's Zeke and we all see when Rod
Speaker 1: Smith comes in the game that it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: complete difference. So, UM, I get it that. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of them carries, but that's why you
Speaker 1: draft them fourth overall. And you know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think that they're worried about that maybe they should be,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that they are. He's twenty three
Speaker 1: years old. You drafted him in the top five. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. Um, that's what you brought
Speaker 1: him here, and and he wasn't touching it enough when
Speaker 1: they were losing games and all honesty. Uh sorry, you
Speaker 1: can have Sunday off. They gave him yesterday off had
Speaker 1: some sore hips maybe, I mean, I'm sure a lot.
Speaker 1: They'll manage him, but yeah, that's what you do. That's
Speaker 1: why he's here. And you know, if there were if
Speaker 1: there were other weapons that you felt comfortable leaning on, Okay,
Speaker 1: but who you got? Yeah, it's a nixt point. I mean,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper had eight receptions. That's probably as much as
Speaker 1: you can realistically expect in this offense. And then you
Speaker 1: got a bunch of other guys who have moments but
Speaker 1: aren't proven to be consistent. This is how you built
Speaker 1: this team. This is not that always bothered me is like,
Speaker 1: he's amazing, he's amazing. Whoa, whoa take stop? Don't give
Speaker 1: him the ball so much? No way, he's twenty three
Speaker 1: years old, he can handle it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I love the twenty three year old. You know, argument
Speaker 1: just because I look at it like a picture picture
Speaker 1: is twenty two years old. You don't hear and pitch
Speaker 1: nine anis every game. I mean, I get it. But
Speaker 1: it's more likely to be able to handle that at
Speaker 1: twenty three than at thirty one. Though. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: probably not the greatest idea for even a twenty three
Speaker 1: year old to get well overward here here, and the
Speaker 1: question is where's the old Where does he get overard?
Speaker 1: We're not there yet, Like, are we trying to get
Speaker 1: him to thirty one? Probably not. They're just trying to
Speaker 1: be Larry Johnson for the Chiefs and just running in. Well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna They're not gonna do it at this pace.
Speaker 1: And that's where you know, I think right now, where
Speaker 1: you are on this in this year, with this team,
Speaker 1: I think you don't have any other option. That's the
Speaker 1: way you got to go because he is your he
Speaker 1: is your best offensive weapon. But I will say this,
Speaker 1: I do think going into next year they ought to
Speaker 1: consider the possibility that if they don't think Rod Smith
Speaker 1: is a guy that can take a little bit more
Speaker 1: of that load, then maybe they got to go out
Speaker 1: and get a guy that they think could take a
Speaker 1: little bit more of that load, if for nothing else
Speaker 1: than to keep him fresh. Yeah. Um, that's the way
Speaker 1: I look at it, even more than preserving his body,
Speaker 1: because I'm a big believer in Hey, first contract, maybe
Speaker 1: second contract, you don't go beyond that with a running back.
Speaker 1: But I think you keep bringing running backs in and
Speaker 1: you try to go younger as you keep going. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I gotta do the math, and
Speaker 1: I mean he's at He's touched the ball one hundred
Speaker 1: and seven times since they came back from there by week.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get that's he's averaging twenty seven touches
Speaker 1: a game. It's a lot, but he's not on some
Speaker 1: type of like historic pace that's just gonna you know,
Speaker 1: like he's he's well within the range of what a
Speaker 1: feature back gets, you know. So I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: the reason why I think he's getting more carries is
Speaker 1: not just a difference in philosophy. Maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: with the passing game, but it's just having success. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you get if you get the ball three times
Speaker 1: in a row and you get stopped for eight yards
Speaker 1: and you punt and then obviously you get three touches,
Speaker 1: but if you if you're getting first downs and you're
Speaker 1: moving the ball and it's a fifteen playe drive and
Speaker 1: now you've got eight, you know, eight or nine times,
Speaker 1: So they're they're having success with it, which is why
Speaker 1: they're getting more. He's getting more touches and more opportunities.
Speaker 1: I think it goes back to the whole offensive line.
Speaker 1: This offensive line, since Colombo's taken over, since Sui Filo
Speaker 1: has been added, offensive line is doing better despite even
Speaker 1: having some injuries that they're doing a much better job,
Speaker 1: which is keeping them on the field, which is getting
Speaker 1: more touchy. How surprised were you, and we're moving on
Speaker 1: to the next topic, but how surprised were you when
Speaker 1: you find out that Tyron Smith isn't gonna play? And
Speaker 1: then you get to that to the end of that game,
Speaker 1: and you realize, although they gave up four sacks, it
Speaker 1: happened in the first half and by the second half
Speaker 1: seemed like they pulled things together. They were still able
Speaker 1: to get a really fantastic day on the ground, a
Speaker 1: really nice day through the air. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about the offensive line and their performance? I thought this
Speaker 1: is exactly why they signed Cameron Fleming. They signed him
Speaker 1: for games like that, you know. I mean when you
Speaker 1: really think about last year and the problems that they had. Now,
Speaker 1: they didn't go out and get a running back. They
Speaker 1: didn't do that. They expected Zeke to be there. But
Speaker 1: they did go get another linebacker in the first round.
Speaker 1: They also got Cameron Fleming in case things happened to
Speaker 1: shahn Lee and Tyron Smith, which they have, and I
Speaker 1: think that there hasn't been a drop off. Really. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can keep playing with with Fleming and
Speaker 1: not being okay there. But I think for that one
Speaker 1: game it was good. It looked rough at first. I
Speaker 1: mean Dak was on pace to be sacked as many
Speaker 1: times as he was against Atlanta, but yeah, they cleaned
Speaker 1: it up. Cam Fleming talked after the game that he
Speaker 1: felt rusty. He didn't know he was going to go
Speaker 1: until he got to the stadium, which I was surprised,
Speaker 1: but not that surprised. I mean, you saw the agony
Speaker 1: that Tyron Smith was on Sunday, and then he didn't
Speaker 1: look a lot better on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday, so
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to gut it out, but
Speaker 1: certainly not surprising that they decided to spare him. Um,
Speaker 1: I thought fleming and and that's what he was like.
Speaker 1: I felt like I got better as I got more acclimated,
Speaker 1: and he might they might need him again on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Because Tyron's not at practice today and he didn't practice yesterday,
Speaker 1: So we know how that that's that's never a good
Speaker 1: sign obviously, Friday. This is a Friday, right, this is
Speaker 1: a Thursday. Okay, there's a great Wednesday. Sorry it is
Speaker 1: I mean what day is? Tyron is definitely in the class.
Speaker 1: It's Monday, but it's Thursday. I thought about this this morning.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's Monday, but it's Thursday. But the Saints
Speaker 1: are playing the Cowboys are playing on Thursday, so it's all.
Speaker 1: And then they were a couple of days from games
Speaker 1: and then it all it all reverts because then friday's Friday,
Speaker 1: because then you're back on your regular schedule because you
Speaker 1: have the long weekend. It's whatever. Um, Tyrant Smith is
Speaker 1: definitely in the class of player who can play with
Speaker 1: minimal practice reps. But he's not practicing Thursday. That's never
Speaker 1: a good sign for a guy's availability. Yeah, that's still
Speaker 1: concerning because as much as you like what Fleming did.
Speaker 1: Now you're attempting fate we have to do with multiple games,
Speaker 1: and that that does worry me a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: you think about this offensive line. That would be now
Speaker 1: three guys that you would have on that offensive line
Speaker 1: that were not your starters coming into this season when
Speaker 1: you went to training camp. Those are those are three guys,
Speaker 1: and two of them all pro caliber guys. So that's
Speaker 1: a big difference. Zach Martin and Xavier sue a Philo
Speaker 1: were both back to practice today. They sat out yesterday.
Speaker 1: I think that's more maintenance than anything. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Tyrn obviously Travis and Xavier stepped in for Connor,
Speaker 1: So yeah, yep. Is there any chance that if if
Speaker 1: they were gonna go longer term, then maybe maybe look
Speaker 1: at Connor at tackle or do you think Fleming's a
Speaker 1: guy is going to be there in the event that
Speaker 1: Tyrant camp play. He played tackle for a snap on
Speaker 1: the Southern Thursday. That's I mean quickly in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: No way, No, I mean just too much. I would
Speaker 1: I would love to have him as a backup. I
Speaker 1: really think swing yes, this is he would be an
Speaker 1: outstanding sixth Lineman. Yes, yeah, guard tackle maybe centered out
Speaker 1: because he could just play pretty much, and you can
Speaker 1: do everything. You gotta do what you gotta do in
Speaker 1: an emergency. But I mean, like, but to try to
Speaker 1: switch him to tackle when he's been playing guard, and
Speaker 1: I mean Cam Fleming. He might not be as good
Speaker 1: as Tyrant Smith, but he started for the Patriots in
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year like I would. I'm fine with that,
Speaker 1: and you know he wasn't. He wasn't such a disaster
Speaker 1: that I'm looking for contingency plans as of yet. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to our first break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about Dak Prescott and Amark Cooper.
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Speaker 1: Back to the Break, Welcome Back. It is the second
Speaker 1: segment of The Break live from the s WBC Morgan
Speaker 1: Studios at the start talking Cowboys versus Redskins. Cowboys get
Speaker 1: the big win on Thanksgiving Day, They're moving on to
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. This will be this will definitely
Speaker 1: be their toughest matchup of the year. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any doubt about you know, a lot of the
Speaker 1: players were asked yesterday about it is this a benchmark game?
Speaker 1: Is this a game? And the natural answer for a
Speaker 1: player like that is to always say no, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's what Garrett reaches. And they're like, no, no,
Speaker 1: we do what we do. But they tried that, like
Speaker 1: Zach Martin Amari Cooper that they're like, well, no, I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, yeah kind of, I mean, this is the
Speaker 1: best team in the league. Yeah, I mean, which it
Speaker 1: definitely they're liars. Zeke had a great well that we're
Speaker 1: not them. But any body that says it's not, it's
Speaker 1: my point tried to answer it. Well. Ze had he
Speaker 1: had a good quote. He had a good quote where
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, this is the NFL, like records
Speaker 1: really don't matter. You can get beat by the worst
Speaker 1: team or the bad I mean, and and he's got
Speaker 1: a point, But I don't care what anybody says, like
Speaker 1: ten games in a row, you see what they're doing.
Speaker 1: If you're a competitor, you have to kind of like
Speaker 1: measure yourself against that. I remember, um twenty fourteen, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys beat the crap out of the Saints here at
Speaker 1: at and T. I think it was like their third
Speaker 1: win in a row. And like the Saints weren't even
Speaker 1: the Saints that year, Like they were not that great,
Speaker 1: and like after the game, everybody were like who that,
Speaker 1: what's up? Like beat the Saints by so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's everybody knows what they do and everybody it's a
Speaker 1: measuring stick game for sure. I like what Zach Martin said,
Speaker 1: he goes, you know, we've won three in a row
Speaker 1: and we feel like, you know, it's hard to do
Speaker 1: and we feel like we were on a roll. Imagine
Speaker 1: the Saints three times and in some right, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so that's that's amazing. Yeah, But it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where to me, it's a measure a more kind
Speaker 1: of how you play football too, because right now we
Speaker 1: see that there are three teams sitting the top of
Speaker 1: the NFL afc NNFCUM that are teams that score ton
Speaker 1: of points and they may not play the greatest defense,
Speaker 1: but they play a little defense with it. And we're
Speaker 1: about to find out, or at least this will be
Speaker 1: an indication for the Cowboys if their style of play
Speaker 1: can match up with those teams. Can they play good
Speaker 1: enough defense to where they can slow down those offenses?
Speaker 1: And they can they played right style of offense where
Speaker 1: they can consistently keep the ball out of those guys
Speaker 1: hands in order to give them an opportunity to win.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for more than anything else, just
Speaker 1: to see Woola's style work against some of these really
Speaker 1: high powered offense. Actually, uh I did. I did a
Speaker 1: hit for a Saints podcast this morning and it was
Speaker 1: like Saints break Trader. No, No, they why is that try?
Speaker 1: They asked me. You do know the Chargers have a
Speaker 1: Chargers break now right? I really every team league has something. No,
Speaker 1: it's called the Chargers Break. I was listening on the
Speaker 1: radio and the Chargers break this. I'm like, really what
Speaker 1: I call those guys up and be like, uh they Well,
Speaker 1: so the Saints, like the Pelicans and the Saints are
Speaker 1: all owned and managed by the same people. So there's
Speaker 1: is the Black and Blue podcast because Pelicans were blue
Speaker 1: and the Saints were black, so um whatever. But I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, do get to talk basketball
Speaker 1: and football? They just interestingly and not a lot of time.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys just did this a week ago.
Speaker 1: Like the game plan for the Falcon it should be
Speaker 1: the same thing, like shorten that game up, run the
Speaker 1: ball probably it's much This is a tougher task. Like
Speaker 1: the Saints are much better than the Falcons. They beat
Speaker 1: them twice this year, so but we've seen it. We've
Speaker 1: seen it work, is what I'm trying to say. They
Speaker 1: did it against the number six offense in the league.
Speaker 1: So you know, the Saints I believe are number one
Speaker 1: in the league and rush defense, but I have to
Speaker 1: feel like those numbers are kind of of course. I mean,
Speaker 1: who's some degrees running? Although their defense is playing really good.
Speaker 1: Defense is playing well, there's no doubt about it. But
Speaker 1: I just don't think that there's just shutting down the run.
Speaker 1: I think teams breeze is shutting down the run. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Cowboys had the number one
Speaker 1: run defense in twenty sixteen. Either nobody ran the ball
Speaker 1: against them because they were down seventeen points at half time.
Speaker 1: Choice you gotta throw it. But you know they have
Speaker 1: definitely figured it out if you look at their at
Speaker 1: their team and you go okay. Earlier, I mean, the
Speaker 1: toughest game they've had to losing was the Browns in
Speaker 1: Week two. They probably should have lost the game, but
Speaker 1: they they've turned it around to the point where in
Speaker 1: the last three or four weeks. I mean then just
Speaker 1: annihilating teams. I mean just kind of taking their will. Really.
Speaker 1: I mean the Philadelphia that's the Browns and the Ravens
Speaker 1: are the only teams to hold them under thirty this
Speaker 1: whole year, and they won them, won both of those games,
Speaker 1: both teams with good defenses. Though yep, so that does
Speaker 1: serve the Cowboys. Well, we'll see if the defense is
Speaker 1: good enough. And more importantly, in my opinion, can the
Speaker 1: offense but consistent enough the defense, though it has been
Speaker 1: good all year, lately, they've been getting turnovers. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: have been getting turnovers, and that's gonna be the key.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can kind of be good, but if
Speaker 1: you don't turn the ball over. You know, the Saints
Speaker 1: are gonna get ten possessions and they're gonna score on
Speaker 1: six or seven of them. You gotta get turnovers. So
Speaker 1: and and Breeze doesn't just give the ball away. So
Speaker 1: this I mean shorten the game, run the ball, hopefully
Speaker 1: a turnover or two, and you can't turn it over,
Speaker 1: force some field goals. Again, that's I said all this
Speaker 1: this morning on the show, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: good too. I'm talking to a Saint's audience, and I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: I understand that's easier said than done. But that's what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna be. They gotta to do. That's
Speaker 1: what they have to do if they're gonna get a win,
Speaker 1: and if you're pin back and if you can get
Speaker 1: a ninety yard touchdown like doing nice Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's what Cooper did. Yeah, let's talk about Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. He usually drives you into the ditch. He
Speaker 1: actually just pulled you back on the road. And that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper this last game man eight catches, one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty yards twenty two point five was his average,
Speaker 1: the ninety yard touchdown pass and also had a forty
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass two touchdowns. The thing I was most
Speaker 1: impressed with was what he was doing on third downs.
Speaker 1: Cowboys had one, two, three, They had six third downs
Speaker 1: that they converted. He converted four of those six. He
Speaker 1: is I think that is the biggest difference between what
Speaker 1: they were doing before Amark Hooper got here and what
Speaker 1: they've done since he's got here, is he is a
Speaker 1: third down converting machine for them. He reminds me and
Speaker 1: he's not as accomplished. I understand that. But he reminds
Speaker 1: me of Julio Jones in that he's a big possession
Speaker 1: type receiver who can also make a big play. He
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's that fast, but he was running
Speaker 1: away from people. He's got that long stride, you know
Speaker 1: he was. He played that trivia game no Moss. He
Speaker 1: said if he could be in the Olympics, he'd be
Speaker 1: a fifteen hundred meter runner and fifteen hundred you know
Speaker 1: those long strides. You saw it in that in that
Speaker 1: ninety yard touchdown. I was like, he's gonna get caught.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get caught, and he just never did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he didn't, like, yeah, he's just taking these long strides.
Speaker 1: I always think about Vince Young, like like, he doesn't
Speaker 1: look like he's running that fast because his legs aren't
Speaker 1: moving that everybody else looks like they're standing steel. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, he made his free throw.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. You know, you can go and make it,
Speaker 1: score your point, but then go to the line and
Speaker 1: make it. I like that. I just it was a
Speaker 1: great celebrations all the way around. I'm not Sanjay lal,
Speaker 1: it was no, you're right, You're right about that, but
Speaker 1: I don't, like I don't know about route running, you know,
Speaker 1: like I you know, I can. You gotta drop your
Speaker 1: hips and lower your center gravity, but like I don't
Speaker 1: know how to do that. But he just looks different,
Speaker 1: like if you watch him, and it's like when you
Speaker 1: have a chance to watch the replays, but even in
Speaker 1: real time, like no offense to Dez Bryant. He was
Speaker 1: great in his prime, but like even I mean Dez
Speaker 1: ran slants and out muscled people, you know, like you
Speaker 1: can see this dude, like the way he like shifts
Speaker 1: his hips or like stutters his feed like and it
Speaker 1: like it's obvious, like it creates this separation that is rare,
Speaker 1: at least around here. It has been. I I'm not
Speaker 1: used to seeing it, and maybe I don't watch enough
Speaker 1: AJ Green or Julio Jones, but it just it looks
Speaker 1: different from what I'm used to seeing. I was just
Speaker 1: happy to see that. You know, for three games, you
Speaker 1: could tell that he has done a better job and
Speaker 1: the offense has done better with him here. But his
Speaker 1: numbers aren't great because you know, we live in a
Speaker 1: fantasy football world where it's just like they were great,
Speaker 1: well they were great, and then they were on a
Speaker 1: lot of people's bench. I understand that, but I'm just me.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, he was like, he's this
Speaker 1: guy's different and he's got well five catches for sixty yards?
Speaker 1: Is that different? Was like, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to really say, yeah, but it is.
Speaker 1: So finally this was a yeah, see which And I mean,
Speaker 1: you're not going to do that every week. You'll probably
Speaker 1: do that once a season. But but I mean even
Speaker 1: in the games where even in the games where he
Speaker 1: didn't blow up, I mean not that this is a
Speaker 1: good thing, but he literally shook um what's he shook
Speaker 1: Ronald Darby so bad that he tore his acl Like
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch that, he he cut
Speaker 1: on a dime twice in a row, and Darby literally
Speaker 1: like couldn't stand up. You know, he's just he's he's
Speaker 1: good at what he does. You know who he is
Speaker 1: actually more than Julio Jones. I mean in that game
Speaker 1: that it was a Terrell Owens type of game where
Speaker 1: you catch the ball and then you spin away and
Speaker 1: then it's just you and another guy. Now, who's who fast?
Speaker 1: Because it's not like it was a running head start.
Speaker 1: He was at a stand still. You know. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like the Juju touchdown yesterday ninety seven yards. I mean
Speaker 1: this was like, you know, over the middle should have
Speaker 1: been about fifteen twenty yards, and so he's strength the
Speaker 1: break tackles and then just on a dead sprint to
Speaker 1: go out run everyone. I thought it was awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this is this is turning out to be
Speaker 1: one of those moves at the Cowboys. Mate, that's so
Speaker 1: far seems like it's worth it. And it's not often
Speaker 1: you can say that when you get the first round
Speaker 1: pick that you can go back and look at and say, man,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be this might be a great trade.
Speaker 1: But it sounds it's looking like it has the potential
Speaker 1: to be a really great move for the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: understand this. This math is faulty, I get, but I
Speaker 1: still think it's fun. Like if you adjust his four
Speaker 1: game stats for sixteen games, it's obscene, like eighty eight catches,
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred yards, twelve touchdowns and even, and so I'm
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, well, of course you had a
Speaker 1: two hundred yard game. How often you see that, So
Speaker 1: I readjusted it and it's still like seventy something catches
Speaker 1: for nine hundred and fifty yards, which again, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's all you need to be in this offense.
Speaker 1: That's exact the game out. I took the Thanksgiving game
Speaker 1: out just to see, you know, just too, because that's
Speaker 1: such a ridiculous outlier. You can't expect any receiver to
Speaker 1: do that, but he will. I think the kind of
Speaker 1: receiver he is, there will be one, two, possibly three
Speaker 1: per year that he'll have like but that just games
Speaker 1: where he just goes crazy, and then most of the
Speaker 1: games will be what you see. There will be those
Speaker 1: five six catches somewhere between sixty and eighty yards, and again,
Speaker 1: in this offense, that's really all me and I understand
Speaker 1: why you did that, but like you have to leave
Speaker 1: it in because when you take a first round pick,
Speaker 1: that's what you're hoping for games like that, So that's
Speaker 1: what you get. He's played four games. One of them
Speaker 1: was a monster game, one of them wasn't that great,
Speaker 1: two of them were pretty good. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: see sides of it. Either way, it's good and the
Speaker 1: residual effect of that is, now defenses have to pay
Speaker 1: attention to him. And that's all you really wanted, you had,
Speaker 1: you wanted to make defenses have to play you honest.
Speaker 1: And because he's making these big plays, he's starting what
Speaker 1: would be, as you said, would have been probably just
Speaker 1: a routine catch and he took it ninety yards. That
Speaker 1: makes defensive think, you know, is it really worth us
Speaker 1: bringing that extra safety down in every circumstance like they've
Speaker 1: been doing, or do we have to just kind of
Speaker 1: pick and choose. And when we pick and choose, it
Speaker 1: may create some really nice openings for a seat. And
Speaker 1: they've done really nice job. This team needs a tight
Speaker 1: end so bad. And I understand that their offense has
Speaker 1: done a lot better, but if you had a real
Speaker 1: tight end that could that was like a complete tight
Speaker 1: end who could stay on the line and block for you.
Speaker 1: He also can get downfield for you. And there's not
Speaker 1: many of those guys and they've definitely been, you know, spoiled.
Speaker 1: Do they go back to the well this offseason on
Speaker 1: that one? You have to what's the well sorry, I
Speaker 1: mean draft like doing, but you know you have yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it has it's I mean, you haven't seen
Speaker 1: what what Schultz can do yet. I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna obviously get bigger this offseason. You would hope.
Speaker 1: Hope is not a strategy, I got you, That's true.
Speaker 1: Like you gotta do. I mean, if you don't want
Speaker 1: to spend your second round pick, that's fine, but you
Speaker 1: gotta do something. Yeah, I mean yeah, free agency draft,
Speaker 1: I think I think you can't run You can't run
Speaker 1: these back. In my opinion, I run him back. You can't, Hey,
Speaker 1: I would. I'm I would love to sign Jeff Swain
Speaker 1: to a contract like what James Hannah got. I would
Speaker 1: love Swam to be my second tight absolutely. I would
Speaker 1: love the Salts back to be my third. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then whatever you gotta do to find a starter to
Speaker 1: experiment on what the experiment experiment has been over pretty cool?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, I don't think he's gonna get
Speaker 1: to fives. He's not gonna get to five catches. You
Speaker 1: have five touchdowns. I think if there were ever a
Speaker 1: year where you know he's gonna be able to do something,
Speaker 1: look at all the injuries, look at all the opportunities,
Speaker 1: and he's still it's just not you know what it
Speaker 1: is them he's gonna go somewhere else and you're just
Speaker 1: gonna have to just deal with it if he If
Speaker 1: he does well, But they've done everything they can do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't know. All Right, We're gonna take our
Speaker 1: final break. We'll come back. We'll talk a little bit
Speaker 1: of a little bit about the defense and what they
Speaker 1: did this last game. We'll also talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about the NFC East before we end the show. We'll
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Speaker 1: all right, let's let's jump back in the defense. The
Speaker 1: Dallas defense. This defense it's playing well. Now. You don't
Speaker 1: always get Colton McCoy. But you know, I do think
Speaker 1: you I do think Drew Brees is going to be
Speaker 1: an upgrade there a little bit, a little bit. See
Speaker 1: it's funny, like you're right. I mean, hey, they held
Speaker 1: them to twenty three points. They picked Colton McCoy off
Speaker 1: three times. My main takeaway from that game is that
Speaker 1: they gave up a fifty three yard touchdown to Vernon
Speaker 1: Davis as the first like really bad break in coverage
Speaker 1: in a while. I mean, Julio Jones. But you're gonna
Speaker 1: give those up every once in a while. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're they still are human. I mean, that's gonna happen
Speaker 1: from time. It's high right. They got Damien Wilson on
Speaker 1: a bad matchup there and which just gonna help. I know.
Speaker 1: I just it troubles me when you think about who's
Speaker 1: coming in here on Thursday. Let's put because no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. And it's it's fitting because it's something I've
Speaker 1: been working on, Like I literally for the last week.
Speaker 1: I went back and looked, I'm like, what are the
Speaker 1: drives you know that have started in Dallas territory? And
Speaker 1: how did they I'm sorry that have finished opposing territory
Speaker 1: and how did they finish? So I just finished this
Speaker 1: this morning. Fifty eight drives where the opponent took the
Speaker 1: ball in their own territory and drove it into Dallas territory,
Speaker 1: and eighteen of them have ended in touchdowns, which is
Speaker 1: pretty good. Seventeen field goals, I think, nine punts and
Speaker 1: a few takeaways. But they hadn't given up a play
Speaker 1: like that in more than a month and then so
Speaker 1: to see him give it up right there the week
Speaker 1: before this Saints game bothered me. But but make no
Speaker 1: mistake about it, there will be at least one moment
Speaker 1: in this game against the Saints where they'll probably have
Speaker 1: somebody get behind the defense and now it's gonna definite
Speaker 1: saying like against this team, you're not gonna go You're
Speaker 1: not gonna set them. I don't think that you're gonna
Speaker 1: get them in an over Like they're not gonna go
Speaker 1: all day without breaking a big play. That's what they do.
Speaker 1: But that best in the league at it. That's how
Speaker 1: you're gonna beat them. That's and that's it's I think
Speaker 1: of the Houston game all the time. It's like, give
Speaker 1: up all the yards you want, just don't let them
Speaker 1: finish in the end zone. It's certainly and if they
Speaker 1: are going to finish in the end zone, it needs
Speaker 1: to be a five yard touchdown or a three yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: You need to make them drive the length of the field.
Speaker 1: Giving up fifty three yards on a scoring play is
Speaker 1: not winning defense. And it's fine against the Redskins when
Speaker 1: they're starting Colt McCoy and you can pick them off
Speaker 1: three times. But against Drew Brees that's not good enough.
Speaker 1: It's just not that's not good. And so I like,
Speaker 1: I'm hearing myself say it, and I feel like a
Speaker 1: jerk because they played far like way more good than bad.
Speaker 1: But when you consider the upcoming opponent, that's just not good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not ideal, But I still don't
Speaker 1: believe that if you give up a big play against
Speaker 1: the Saints that means you lose. I think you still
Speaker 1: have to manage it. But you have to go into
Speaker 1: this game knowing there may be moments when you get
Speaker 1: punched in the mouth, because that's the kind of offense
Speaker 1: that you're playing, and if you're gonna win, you have
Speaker 1: to be able to jump back on after you get
Speaker 1: punched in the mouth and be able to make the
Speaker 1: next stop right. But I think, like you know, from
Speaker 1: a boxing reference there, I don't think that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can get punched in the mouth and win. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I think they have not even once. No, I mean
Speaker 1: they have to be the first one. They have to
Speaker 1: take the fight to them. Yeah, you'll get punched back,
Speaker 1: and that's fine, but you can't get you can't. This
Speaker 1: isn't like Rocky Too, where you can just you know,
Speaker 1: get like two rounds where you're down and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden start wreck. No, I don't think that
Speaker 1: can happen. It has to be like oh nine, or
Speaker 1: they take it right to them and say, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be here all day. This is a this is the
Speaker 1: way it is. We've got a seven nothing lead, we've
Speaker 1: got a ten three to lead, and and then you know,
Speaker 1: hold on for life. I certainly don't think you're bouncing
Speaker 1: back from fourteen to three. That's what I like. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree in that regard. But I agree with you too,
Speaker 1: like you're gonna get punched in the mouth by this
Speaker 1: team you just are? Did you work around it? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Did y'all hear that they talked about. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess al Michaels had a problem with the Vikings taking
Speaker 1: the ball started the game yesterday. I don't know if
Speaker 1: y'all saw this on the broadcast. Well, just like and
Speaker 1: then they did three and out and had to punt,
Speaker 1: and he kind of talked about it. They went and
Speaker 1: did their research at halftime and they said that ninety
Speaker 1: five percent of the league has deferred when they won
Speaker 1: the toss. Ninety five Well, when did Jason Garrett start
Speaker 1: doing this midway through the year? When you start it
Speaker 1: wasn't quite midway? Was it season this season? He I
Speaker 1: don't actually, I don't think he has won the toss
Speaker 1: and taken the ball this year really, but they've lost
Speaker 1: a lot of tosses. That's the thing they've started with.
Speaker 1: I thought it was early in the year the first
Speaker 1: time he deferred. I thought it was like week I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is that of the time. I'm thinking most of that's
Speaker 1: gotta be Garrett. Not this year, though, I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I really think early on they did. I don't think
Speaker 1: that they have. I might be wrong. Last year they
Speaker 1: did it all the time and then and this whole
Speaker 1: thing started, Like I want to say, Week four of
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, they had done a great job and then
Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, yeah, let's take the ball.
Speaker 1: And it worked, and then they kept doing it in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen even though it wasn't working. I really think
Speaker 1: they haven't done it this year because they lost the
Speaker 1: toss two or three times in a row to start
Speaker 1: this season, and they went three and out and they're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we'll defer like everybody else, that's fine,
Speaker 1: knowing that they have to, you know, get an early lead.
Speaker 1: What do you think you get the ball if you
Speaker 1: win the toss. I still like to defer, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I always defer. I mean, I guess just set the
Speaker 1: tone early. I mean, the thing about it is, is
Speaker 1: crowd going to be unbelievable. I'm sure it'll be a
Speaker 1: lot of Saints fans will be Cowboy fans, of course,
Speaker 1: I mean it'll be it'll probably be a close to
Speaker 1: fifty fifty maybe we'll see it might even be sixty
Speaker 1: forty Cowboys. But it'll be so loud because there's their
Speaker 1: fans are louder. I don't know if there's any other
Speaker 1: way to say it. They're just louder. Fans, so so
Speaker 1: I do think if you do want to kick off,
Speaker 1: you play some defense early and let's just see, let's see,
Speaker 1: right off the bat, what do we have. I don't
Speaker 1: like the thought of sending them out there, sending the
Speaker 1: Saints out there with a chance to take a seven
Speaker 1: nothing lead, but I don't like the thought of kicking
Speaker 1: the ball to start it. But in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: right yeah, and the third quarters half of the stadium
Speaker 1: is still doesn't remember that it's a thirteen minute and
Speaker 1: a half time and they can't get back to their
Speaker 1: seat and it's quiet, and Breech just goes Kamara for
Speaker 1: Twylfth's you definitely want the ball in the third quarter. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. And that's that's the way that if you
Speaker 1: do get punched them out early, that might be your
Speaker 1: say even grace if you have the ball at the
Speaker 1: beginning the third quarter, because if you can turn around
Speaker 1: and get that back to back score at the end
Speaker 1: and score again at the beginning, it allows you to
Speaker 1: get either some cushion or allows you to get back
Speaker 1: into a game that you might be a little bit
Speaker 1: behind without off the other posing offense having a shot
Speaker 1: to get back on the fin I really do. All
Speaker 1: I know is I've seen this scenario before them, but
Speaker 1: I really think that they can. I know you said
Speaker 1: it in the press box the other day, you don't
Speaker 1: really expect to pick the Cowboys, but wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if they want at all. Who would be, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody Vegas. Probably the Saints or seven point favorites I think,
Speaker 1: so that's not huge. I mean the ten point favorites
Speaker 1: on a neutral field, Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna take all hands on deck. I mean,
Speaker 1: how about you talked about defense. How about de Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence again, I mean that interception and that I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not the best interception I've ever seen by de
Speaker 1: Marcus because what Ware did against the Falcons still that's
Speaker 1: pretty almost lucky. But you know, quietly, he's playing so
Speaker 1: well that Tyrone Crawford's playing really well, and he just
Speaker 1: doesn't have the numbers and and you know, for stat
Speaker 1: I think that I think he's playing the best game
Speaker 1: of his entire I mean, best season of his entire career,
Speaker 1: and it's it's overshadowed because he's moving around doing different things.
Speaker 1: But but just de Marcus and those two guys, they're
Speaker 1: they're leaders, you know, just with the way they play,
Speaker 1: with the way that they're acting. I mean their defense
Speaker 1: of line. It starts up there and both those guys.
Speaker 1: I know, the laws getting a lot of the credit,
Speaker 1: but I think you gotta, you gotta remember what Crawford
Speaker 1: has been doing. Yeah, I need to look at him.
Speaker 1: He's up to like at least four and a half,
Speaker 1: if not five or more sacks Like he's yeah, he's
Speaker 1: I really admire the job that he's doing. And then not.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've made my feelings on Tank perfectly clear.
Speaker 1: He needs to be extended the day after their season ends.
Speaker 1: And the crazy part is the numbers don't even begin
Speaker 1: to do justice to the kind of season that DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence is having. If you just look at his numbers,
Speaker 1: it's like, I was pretty good, but he's actually playing
Speaker 1: much better than that. Like the things that that don't
Speaker 1: show up on the stat sheet, the way he's able
Speaker 1: to affect plays without getting the tackle, without getting the sack,
Speaker 1: it's huge in my I know I say this every
Speaker 1: week and I'm not name dropping, but I mean, we
Speaker 1: did an interview with Steven Jones right after the game
Speaker 1: and I said to him right before we were about
Speaker 1: to do the interview, and I said, every play the
Speaker 1: Marcus makes, it's just like hitting the pocket, you know,
Speaker 1: hitting the wallet a little bit more. And he goes yeah.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it's the price that keeps going up.
Speaker 1: But you know what, we're gonna do it. And you're
Speaker 1: happy to do it when you got a player like that, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the kind of deal where you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: if I gotta pay, at least I'm at least I'm
Speaker 1: getting what I'm paying for. Right. Somebody brought that up
Speaker 1: to Jerry too, and he was like, he was like
Speaker 1: her de Marcus making it hit in your pocketbook, and
Speaker 1: he's like a lot of guys are making a hit
Speaker 1: in my pocketbook right now. He's like a mari He's
Speaker 1: making a bid for some money too. No doubt they
Speaker 1: got a lot of those guys coming up too. They
Speaker 1: have to figure out some some some ways to pay
Speaker 1: all these guys, which you forgot about him, that it'll
Speaker 1: be smart for them to actually extend him, right, you
Speaker 1: could probably, Yeah, you can lower number Byron Jones. You
Speaker 1: don't have to, but you could. Yeah, you probably want
Speaker 1: to consider it. I think he's playing really well too.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he if you could get in to
Speaker 1: agree to it, I would try to extend Zeke too,
Speaker 1: and just just do it. Yeah, just do it. And
Speaker 1: then I actually like that idea. Yeah, you keep him.
Speaker 1: I mean, you get him under contract for a longer
Speaker 1: period of time, you can maybe lower his number off
Speaker 1: the fifth year option, and then if you extend him now,
Speaker 1: then he's under contract until he's probably twenty eight or so,
Speaker 1: and man, okay, hey, thanks for your time. You finish
Speaker 1: your career, unless, of course, at that point he's got
Speaker 1: enough yards to where you keep him around just because
Speaker 1: he's that kind of like he's m Smith, transcendent kind
Speaker 1: of player, and you keep him around, right maybe, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to be special. I mean, Adrian Peterson is
Speaker 1: showing that. I mean, maybe he's not the same, but
Speaker 1: he's still showing that he can be pretty good. Well
Speaker 1: with that is off the field stuff. I suspect he
Speaker 1: may have continued where he was having to make a move.
Speaker 1: I really wonder if that would have been the case,
Speaker 1: because those kind of transcendent players you play for a
Speaker 1: long time in your place, and then at some point
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to move on. Ladanian Tomlinson is a
Speaker 1: good example. Eight or nine years. But but yeah, you'll
Speaker 1: be there for a while, and and I think it
Speaker 1: could get beyond that second. We could stand him one
Speaker 1: more time. Look at those guys in that oh eight draft,
Speaker 1: all all those backs in that draft. I think it.
Speaker 1: You know, you've got Jamal Charles and Matt Forte and Fadden,
Speaker 1: and they all played about eight or nine years and
Speaker 1: then it's like, I don't even know are they in
Speaker 1: the league at all. I think Charles trying to be
Speaker 1: in the league. Charles got cute. He came in for
Speaker 1: like a week or something. He was with the Panthers.
Speaker 1: I think somebody brought him in. Didn't we just play him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean no, we we played him this year. I
Speaker 1: think it was the Airline. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. We had this whole conversation and
Speaker 1: didn't bring up the quarterback. I have to pay him too, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be so lukewarm. Nick, No, you do have
Speaker 1: to pay him. You have to pay him next year.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I might defer on that a
Speaker 1: little bit because if you got to pay them. You
Speaker 1: gotta pay him anyway. Quarterbacks they're gonna cost. But I
Speaker 1: think i'd want to see as much as I could
Speaker 1: possibly see before I made I agree with I agree
Speaker 1: with you, but I don't know. I mean, he's regardless
Speaker 1: of what you think about him, there's no denying the
Speaker 1: fact that he's playing at an absurd discount compared to
Speaker 1: the going rate for a good starting quarterback, which I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, but don't you want to ride that as
Speaker 1: long as you can? What if Dak is like I
Speaker 1: ain't riding this. There's nineteen backups that are making more
Speaker 1: than him. I looked this up. I'm not backups, Yes,
Speaker 1: backup or going rate for a backup is like a million,
Speaker 1: but nineteen, I'm not. I have heard nothing. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to suggest that. But like, what if Dak may
Speaker 1: makes an issue of this? DA would I honestly don't
Speaker 1: think he would. I don't know. Maybe he would. I
Speaker 1: don't think you would. I would. I mean, even if
Speaker 1: you think he's terrible, which he's not, But even if
Speaker 1: you think he is, he is playing at an absurd
Speaker 1: discount compared to the going rate for a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: And so I just think that's something you got to
Speaker 1: consider heading into the final year of his deal. I
Speaker 1: mean is I think if you looked at the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the in the history of the league, that are
Speaker 1: the first three seasons of their career. Um, I only
Speaker 1: think there's I think he's right there in the top
Speaker 1: four or five of wins. He's right there. Whatever inner
Speaker 1: you can say, is it because of the line and
Speaker 1: all the he's winning games. I can't. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: him holding out, but I can imagine him in his
Speaker 1: camp being deeply unhappy at the thought of having to
Speaker 1: play another season on a fourth round picks rookie contract.
Speaker 1: But but that being said, if that happens, then I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys would probably be okay with it because
Speaker 1: they could probably get him for a discount because of
Speaker 1: what he's done right now. He has won the games.
Speaker 1: But from stats standpoint, where does he where would he
Speaker 1: rank among the high What they did with with Romo
Speaker 1: and the first big contract he got it was like
Speaker 1: a little less than what you would say, maybe he
Speaker 1: could have even gone for, but they did it at
Speaker 1: the right time when there like sixty seven it was
Speaker 1: something like that. But I know When the negotiations began,
Speaker 1: it was for to be the highest paid quarterback league,
Speaker 1: and they did not end it and go that way.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, and so you know, you they'll
Speaker 1: they'll make the argument the Dak's camp about law the winds,
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys will say, well, look look at
Speaker 1: the stats and look how much we have to help you.
Speaker 1: And so it's it's going to be interesting. I think
Speaker 1: that there will be a different offensive coordinator. I think
Speaker 1: it'll be a very It won't just be entitled of
Speaker 1: saying Dack friendly. This really will be Dack friendly. I
Speaker 1: don't think the system is friendly for Dak, but I
Speaker 1: think I think it will be um if they get
Speaker 1: a new new system. I think you have to you know,
Speaker 1: I think it depends on what happens here down the stretch,
Speaker 1: because I'll tell you this, if if they keep rolling
Speaker 1: like they're rolling right now, it's gonna be hard to
Speaker 1: make a lot of moves once the offseason gets here.
Speaker 1: I think I don't agree with that. But the well,
Speaker 1: the funny thing for me is, and you know, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are in as favorable a spot as anybody in
Speaker 1: the NFC East, But you know, a month ago. All
Speaker 1: looked hopeless. So there's there's a coaster, Give me a twister,
Speaker 1: a turn or two before it's all said and done.
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