WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Backwards & Forward 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:04.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:08.039 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.760 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:16.119 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:21.480 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:27.760 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.760 It is Monday, November twenty six, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.960 episode number eighty five. Welcome to another edition of The 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.640 Break live the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Amber's 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.080 not joining us today, but I do have Nick and 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.040 Dave Wooden. We're gonna talk to some Cowboys football. If 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.120 you guys were about forty five minutes, we haven't had 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.319 a chance to discuss that big win on Thanksgiving Day 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.639 by the Dallas Cowboys. They win thirty one twenty three 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.200 Washington Redskins. Dave said, I mean, I'm sorry, Nick said 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.120 before the game, they win that game to go on 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.240 a Super Bowl. So I overstay that a little bit. Yeah, 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.360 a little too thought it was just the Falcons games 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.720 and you'll make the player, Okay, all right, I may 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.560 have overstated that just just a bit, just a little bit. Yeah, 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.960 well they're there. Hey, right now things are looking positive 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.520 for the Dallas Cowboys. If if Seattle would have would 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.840 have won the game or lost the game, wouldn't they 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.959 have been a wildcard spot? Now Minnesota is still up 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.800 there in Minnesota, Minnesota, and it's it's all. But I'm 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.080 just saying, I still think you have to win your 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.640 division you get in. I tend to agree with you, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.280 but I mean, take a look around. I mean there's 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.080 two ways you could think about it. If Carolina beats 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.720 Seattle yesterday, then they take a pretty firm grip on 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.320 the five seed. Yeah, and then so you're like, well, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.200 there's only one seed left. But now it's literally a 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.640 jumble of teams with roughly six wins. The Vikings are 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.200 six four and one, Seahawks are six and five, Panthers 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.400 are six and five, Cowboys are six and five. I 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.720 just think that Panthers and Seahawks though, that's but I 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.720 just think that if the cow Boys or even the Redskins, 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.120 if you get to the point where you're good enough 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.360 to be in that wild card conversation, that will win 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.520 your division. So probably probably so well, and it hurts 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.720 the Cowboys. They don't have tiebreakers against several of these teams, 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:14.960 but with five games to play, all these records are 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.560 the same. I mean their tiebreakers are going to be 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.799 against the NFC East, so which I think would win 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.600 their division. Yeah, it's I said this yesterday, like I can't. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.800 I picked the Cowboys to go nine and seven and 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.480 miss the playoffs because I thought the NFC was so 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.000 good that you were gonna have like five or six 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.600 eleven win teams, you know, I mean the Vikings, what 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.600 weakness did they have on paper before the season, The Saints, 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.160 the Panthers, the Falcons, the Packers have Aaron Rodgers, so 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.440 they have a chance. I thought about it the wrong way, 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.600 like as an SEC fan, I should have thought about 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.360 it that way. I've been like, oh, yeah, they're gonna 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.680 beat the hell out of each other, and nobody's gonna 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:51.880 have more than nine or ten wins, which is exactly 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.440 other than the Saints and the Rams. That's what it 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.520 looks like, is what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah, they 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.720 look like seven looks very good right now for the Cowboys. Yeah, 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.600 it does, and not because the interesting part about that 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.200 is toughest names that got left are against one of 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:06.959 them is in the conference, but the others outside of 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.160 the conference, Indianapolis looking really good. Beyond that, I don't 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.000 think the Cowboys have another team that has a winning 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.079 record on their schedule, so they should be favored in 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.880 every game. Maybe they're favored in the Indianapolis game, they 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.680 should be favored in most of the games they got 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.080 down the stretch. True, yep, so we'll see what happens. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.840 Let's talk about that game, though. I want to start 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.960 first with Ezekiel Elliott. This guy just continues to rack 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.880 up yards and touches. This last game, he had twenty 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.160 six rushers from one hundred and twenty one yards four 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.720 point seven average in a touchdown, had six I'm sorry 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.520 five catches for twenty two yards, gave him a total 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.240 of thirty one touches on the day, with a total 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.800 of one hundred and forty three yards from scrimmage. Here's 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.080 my question for you. Guys are starting to get to 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.200 a point where you're wondering if they're using him a 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.400 bit too much, and maybe not, but I think it's 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.680 a question worth asking because against Atlanti at thirty touches, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.840 against Philadelphia at twenty five, he is right now leading 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.680 the NFL and touches ahead of Todd Gurley by about 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.920 eleven and Barkley sequon Barkley's third and he's beaten, he's 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:11.200 ahead of him by like eighteen. Um, so it's significant. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:12.400 I mean, you're starting to get to when you get 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.880 to the third and fourth guy, that's probably a game 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.400 worth the touches for the that guy. So are they 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:19.960 starting to use him a bit much? And maybe they 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.920 should consider the possibility of just trying to mix rod 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.920 Smith in there a little bit more. You're just like, hey, 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.800 if it's working, don't mess with it. I think they're 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.440 using them a little too much, and I think that's 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.080 all you can do. I mean, you got to get 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.760 you your three and five. You're three to five team 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.280 at the break, so you've got to ride, you know, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.360 ride the horse that that that's getting you there. And 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.400 then and it's Zeke and we all see when Rod 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.359 Smith comes in the game that it's it's it's a 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:50.000 complete difference. So, UM, I get it that. Yeah, he's 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.479 got a lot of them carries, but that's why you 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.800 draft them fourth overall. And you know, I mean, I 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.359 don't think that they're worried about that maybe they should be, 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.440 but I don't think that they are. He's twenty three 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.919 years old. You drafted him in the top five. No, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.320 I'm not worried about it. Um, that's what you brought 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.680 him here, and and he wasn't touching it enough when 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.839 they were losing games and all honesty. Uh sorry, you 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.719 can have Sunday off. They gave him yesterday off had 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.520 some sore hips maybe, I mean, I'm sure a lot. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.159 They'll manage him, but yeah, that's what you do. That's 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.640 why he's here. And you know, if there were if 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.880 there were other weapons that you felt comfortable leaning on, Okay, 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.320 but who you got? Yeah, it's a nixt point. I mean, 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:34.160 Amari Cooper had eight receptions. That's probably as much as 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.400 you can realistically expect in this offense. And then you 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.719 got a bunch of other guys who have moments but 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.320 aren't proven to be consistent. This is how you built 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.440 this team. This is not that always bothered me is like, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.960 he's amazing, he's amazing. Whoa, whoa take stop? Don't give 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.520 him the ball so much? No way, he's twenty three 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.280 years old, he can handle it. I don't know if 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.799 I love the twenty three year old. You know, argument 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.960 just because I look at it like a picture picture 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.840 is twenty two years old. You don't hear and pitch 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.719 nine anis every game. I mean, I get it. But 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.680 it's more likely to be able to handle that at 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.920 twenty three than at thirty one. Though. Yeah, but it's 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.480 probably not the greatest idea for even a twenty three 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.000 year old to get well overward here here, and the 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.560 question is where's the old Where does he get overard? 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.920 We're not there yet, Like, are we trying to get 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.360 him to thirty one? Probably not. They're just trying to 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.320 be Larry Johnson for the Chiefs and just running in. Well, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.240 they're gonna They're not gonna do it at this pace. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.080 And that's where you know, I think right now, where 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.960 you are on this in this year, with this team, 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:34.839 I think you don't have any other option. That's the 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.520 way you got to go because he is your he 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.120 is your best offensive weapon. But I will say this, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:40.960 I do think going into next year they ought to 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.760 consider the possibility that if they don't think Rod Smith 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:45.520 is a guy that can take a little bit more 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.200 of that load, then maybe they got to go out 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:48.599 and get a guy that they think could take a 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.880 little bit more of that load, if for nothing else 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:52.840 than to keep him fresh. Yeah. Um, that's the way 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.800 I look at it, even more than preserving his body, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.080 because I'm a big believer in Hey, first contract, maybe 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.440 second contract, you don't go beyond that with a running back. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.480 But I think you keep bringing running backs in and 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.680 you try to go younger as you keep going. Sure, yeah, 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.240 I'm fine with that. I gotta do the math, and 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.479 I mean he's at He's touched the ball one hundred 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.480 and seven times since they came back from there by week. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.080 I mean, I get that's he's averaging twenty seven touches 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.440 a game. It's a lot, but he's not on some 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.720 type of like historic pace that's just gonna you know, 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.720 like he's he's well within the range of what a 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.000 feature back gets, you know. So I'm not worried about 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.640 the reason why I think he's getting more carries is 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.440 not just a difference in philosophy. Maybe a little bit 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.600 with the passing game, but it's just having success. I mean, 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.160 if you get if you get the ball three times 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:38.920 in a row and you get stopped for eight yards 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.800 and you punt and then obviously you get three touches, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.600 but if you if you're getting first downs and you're 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.480 moving the ball and it's a fifteen playe drive and 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.840 now you've got eight, you know, eight or nine times, 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.520 So they're they're having success with it, which is why 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.440 they're getting more. He's getting more touches and more opportunities. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.400 I think it goes back to the whole offensive line. 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.080 This offensive line, since Colombo's taken over, since Sui Filo 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.200 has been added, offensive line is doing better despite even 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.040 having some injuries that they're doing a much better job, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.800 which is keeping them on the field, which is getting 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.000 more touchy. How surprised were you, and we're moving on 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.600 to the next topic, but how surprised were you when 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.920 you find out that Tyron Smith isn't gonna play? And 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.880 then you get to that to the end of that game, 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.080 and you realize, although they gave up four sacks, it 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:20.880 happened in the first half and by the second half 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.400 seemed like they pulled things together. They were still able 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.880 to get a really fantastic day on the ground, a 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.720 really nice day through the air. How do you feel 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.400 about the offensive line and their performance? I thought this 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:36.120 is exactly why they signed Cameron Fleming. They signed him 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.640 for games like that, you know. I mean when you 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.280 really think about last year and the problems that they had. Now, 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:44.760 they didn't go out and get a running back. They 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.640 didn't do that. They expected Zeke to be there. But 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.280 they did go get another linebacker in the first round. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.920 They also got Cameron Fleming in case things happened to 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.480 shahn Lee and Tyron Smith, which they have, and I 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.000 think that there hasn't been a drop off. Really. I 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.520 don't think you can keep playing with with Fleming and 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.400 not being okay there. But I think for that one 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.680 game it was good. It looked rough at first. I 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.920 mean Dak was on pace to be sacked as many 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.120 times as he was against Atlanta, but yeah, they cleaned 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.080 it up. Cam Fleming talked after the game that he 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.440 felt rusty. He didn't know he was going to go 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.400 until he got to the stadium, which I was surprised, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:23.160 but not that surprised. I mean, you saw the agony 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.880 that Tyron Smith was on Sunday, and then he didn't 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.320 look a lot better on Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday, so 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:30.840 I thought he was going to gut it out, but 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.160 certainly not surprising that they decided to spare him. Um, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.880 I thought fleming and and that's what he was like. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.080 I felt like I got better as I got more acclimated, 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.840 and he might they might need him again on Thursday. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.400 Because Tyron's not at practice today and he didn't practice yesterday, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.000 So we know how that that's that's never a good 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.520 sign obviously, Friday. This is a Friday, right, this is 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:56.880 a Thursday. Okay, there's a great Wednesday. Sorry it is 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.760 I mean what day is? Tyron is definitely in the class. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.360 It's Monday, but it's Thursday. I thought about this this morning. 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.760 I'm like, it's Monday, but it's Thursday. But the Saints 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.720 are playing the Cowboys are playing on Thursday, so it's all. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:12.720 And then they were a couple of days from games 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.760 and then it all it all reverts because then friday's Friday, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.800 because then you're back on your regular schedule because you 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:23.360 have the long weekend. It's whatever. Um, Tyrant Smith is 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.560 definitely in the class of player who can play with 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.680 minimal practice reps. But he's not practicing Thursday. That's never 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.360 a good sign for a guy's availability. Yeah, that's still 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.640 concerning because as much as you like what Fleming did. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.480 Now you're attempting fate we have to do with multiple games, 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.840 and that that does worry me a little bit. I mean, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.760 you think about this offensive line. That would be now 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.280 three guys that you would have on that offensive line 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.079 that were not your starters coming into this season when 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.160 you went to training camp. Those are those are three guys, 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.520 and two of them all pro caliber guys. So that's 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.600 a big difference. Zach Martin and Xavier sue a Philo 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.080 were both back to practice today. They sat out yesterday. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.160 I think that's more maintenance than anything. Yeah, but yeah, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.520 I mean Tyrn obviously Travis and Xavier stepped in for Connor, 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.640 So yeah, yep. Is there any chance that if if 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.560 they were gonna go longer term, then maybe maybe look 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.319 at Connor at tackle or do you think Fleming's a 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:19.880 guy is going to be there in the event that 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.120 Tyrant camp play. He played tackle for a snap on 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:30.360 the Southern Thursday. That's I mean quickly in twenty eighteen. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.079 No way, No, I mean just too much. I would 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.520 I would love to have him as a backup. I 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.520 really think swing yes, this is he would be an 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:44.840 outstanding sixth Lineman. Yes, yeah, guard tackle maybe centered out 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.560 because he could just play pretty much, and you can 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.200 do everything. You gotta do what you gotta do in 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.920 an emergency. But I mean, like, but to try to 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.080 switch him to tackle when he's been playing guard, and 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.880 I mean Cam Fleming. He might not be as good 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.000 as Tyrant Smith, but he started for the Patriots in 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.480 the playoffs last year like I would. I'm fine with that, 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.320 and you know he wasn't. He wasn't such a disaster 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.440 that I'm looking for contingency plans as of yet. All right, 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:08.760 let's go to our first break. When we come back, 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.360 we got to talk about Dak Prescott and Amark Cooper. 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.200 They are turning into quite a pair. 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While a player 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.679 can look good on paper, it's one he's out on 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.120 the field that you really find out what he's made of. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.560 That's why the Cowboys rely on more than just stats 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.520 and scouting reports when building their team. When picking a tractor, 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.080 it's why you should rely on more than just specs 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.720 and features. You've got to take it out and put 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.400 it to the test. The Cowboys did when they named 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:08.880 John Deer their official tractor experience one for yourself. If 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.840 this is my John dear Dealer dot com slash football. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.360 Back to the Break, Welcome Back. It is the second 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.360 segment of The Break live from the s WBC Morgan 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.440 Studios at the start talking Cowboys versus Redskins. Cowboys get 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.920 the big win on Thanksgiving Day, They're moving on to 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.120 the New Orleans Saints. This will be this will definitely 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.320 be their toughest matchup of the year. I don't think 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.160 there's any doubt about you know, a lot of the 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:35.080 players were asked yesterday about it is this a benchmark game? 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.240 Is this a game? And the natural answer for a 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.680 player like that is to always say no, you know, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.840 because that's what Garrett reaches. And they're like, no, no, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.160 we do what we do. But they tried that, like 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:50.080 Zach Martin Amari Cooper that they're like, well, no, I 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.560 mean yeah, yeah kind of, I mean, this is the 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.360 best team in the league. Yeah, I mean, which it 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.080 definitely they're liars. Zeke had a great well that we're 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.080 not them. But any body that says it's not, it's 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.080 my point tried to answer it. Well. Ze had he 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:05.800 had a good quote. He had a good quote where 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.120 he's like, you know, this is the NFL, like records 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:09.920 really don't matter. You can get beat by the worst 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.480 team or the bad I mean, and and he's got 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.760 a point, But I don't care what anybody says, like 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.280 ten games in a row, you see what they're doing. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.840 If you're a competitor, you have to kind of like 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.520 measure yourself against that. I remember, um twenty fourteen, the 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.320 Cowboys beat the crap out of the Saints here at 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.360 at and T. I think it was like their third 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.120 win in a row. And like the Saints weren't even 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.880 the Saints that year, Like they were not that great, 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.800 and like after the game, everybody were like who that, 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.840 what's up? Like beat the Saints by so like, yeah, 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.040 it's everybody knows what they do and everybody it's a 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.400 measuring stick game for sure. I like what Zach Martin said, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:46.880 he goes, you know, we've won three in a row 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.120 and we feel like, you know, it's hard to do 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.480 and we feel like we were on a roll. Imagine 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.040 the Saints three times and in some right, Yeah, and 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.200 so that's that's amazing. Yeah, But it's one of those 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.480 things where to me, it's a measure a more kind 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.920 of how you play football too, because right now we 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.720 see that there are three teams sitting the top of 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.720 the NFL afc NNFCUM that are teams that score ton 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.320 of points and they may not play the greatest defense, 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.720 but they play a little defense with it. And we're 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.600 about to find out, or at least this will be 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.280 an indication for the Cowboys if their style of play 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.560 can match up with those teams. Can they play good 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.840 enough defense to where they can slow down those offenses? 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.960 And they can they played right style of offense where 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.080 they can consistently keep the ball out of those guys 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.400 hands in order to give them an opportunity to win. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.080 That's what I'm looking for more than anything else, just 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.760 to see Woola's style work against some of these really 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.240 high powered offense. Actually, uh I did. I did a 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.520 hit for a Saints podcast this morning and it was 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.920 like Saints break Trader. No, No, they why is that try? 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:48.640 They asked me. You do know the Chargers have a 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:53.600 Chargers break now right? I really every team league has something. No, 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.680 it's called the Chargers Break. I was listening on the 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.200 radio and the Chargers break this. I'm like, really what 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.120 I call those guys up and be like, uh they Well, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.160 so the Saints, like the Pelicans and the Saints are 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.680 all owned and managed by the same people. So there's 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.720 is the Black and Blue podcast because Pelicans were blue 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:16.320 and the Saints were black, so um whatever. But I 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:17.800 was like, I was like, do get to talk basketball 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.840 and football? They just interestingly and not a lot of time. 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.040 I mean, the Cowboys just did this a week ago. 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.240 Like the game plan for the Falcon it should be 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.399 the same thing, like shorten that game up, run the 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.199 ball probably it's much This is a tougher task. Like 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.160 the Saints are much better than the Falcons. They beat 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.800 them twice this year, so but we've seen it. We've 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.439 seen it work, is what I'm trying to say. They 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.320 did it against the number six offense in the league. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.760 So you know, the Saints I believe are number one 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.359 in the league and rush defense, but I have to 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.520 feel like those numbers are kind of of course. I mean, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.360 who's some degrees running? Although their defense is playing really good. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.480 Defense is playing well, there's no doubt about it. But 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.760 I just don't think that there's just shutting down the run. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.800 I think teams breeze is shutting down the run. Yes, 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.000 I don't think that the Cowboys had the number one 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.600 run defense in twenty sixteen. Either nobody ran the ball 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.880 against them because they were down seventeen points at half time. 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.680 Choice you gotta throw it. But you know they have 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.520 definitely figured it out if you look at their at 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.640 their team and you go okay. Earlier, I mean, the 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:17.480 toughest game they've had to losing was the Browns in 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.159 Week two. They probably should have lost the game, but 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.720 they they've turned it around to the point where in 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.800 the last three or four weeks. I mean then just 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.520 annihilating teams. I mean just kind of taking their will. Really. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.159 I mean the Philadelphia that's the Browns and the Ravens 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.040 are the only teams to hold them under thirty this 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.639 whole year, and they won them, won both of those games, 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.320 both teams with good defenses. Though yep, so that does 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.320 serve the Cowboys. Well, we'll see if the defense is 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.800 good enough. And more importantly, in my opinion, can the 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:47.080 offense but consistent enough the defense, though it has been 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.520 good all year, lately, they've been getting turnovers. The Cowboys 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.560 have been getting turnovers, and that's gonna be the key. 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:54.199 I mean, you can kind of be good, but if 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.760 you don't turn the ball over. You know, the Saints 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.280 are gonna get ten possessions and they're gonna score on 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.440 six or seven of them. You gotta get turnovers. So 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.119 and and Breeze doesn't just give the ball away. So 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.000 this I mean shorten the game, run the ball, hopefully 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.720 a turnover or two, and you can't turn it over, 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.520 force some field goals. Again, that's I said all this 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.359 this morning on the show, and I was like, you know, 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.200 good too. I'm talking to a Saint's audience, and I'm like, listen, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.840 I understand that's easier said than done. But that's what 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.040 the Cowboys are gonna be. They gotta to do. That's 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:25.439 what they have to do if they're gonna get a win, 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:27.520 and if you're pin back and if you can get 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.520 a ninety yard touchdown like doing nice Yeah, yeah, because 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.600 that's what Cooper did. Yeah, let's talk about Amari Cooper. 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.800 Amari Cooper. He usually drives you into the ditch. He 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.159 actually just pulled you back on the road. And that's awesome. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.639 Amari Cooper this last game man eight catches, one hundred 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.080 and eighty yards twenty two point five was his average, 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.640 the ninety yard touchdown pass and also had a forty 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.640 yard touchdown pass two touchdowns. The thing I was most 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.119 impressed with was what he was doing on third downs. 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.240 Cowboys had one, two, three, They had six third downs 0:19:56.240 --> 0:20:00.719 that they converted. He converted four of those six. He 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.400 is I think that is the biggest difference between what 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.679 they were doing before Amark Hooper got here and what 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.359 they've done since he's got here, is he is a 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.680 third down converting machine for them. He reminds me and 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.200 he's not as accomplished. I understand that. But he reminds 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.320 me of Julio Jones in that he's a big possession 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.879 type receiver who can also make a big play. He 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.080 doesn't look like he's that fast, but he was running 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.280 away from people. He's got that long stride, you know 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.080 he was. He played that trivia game no Moss. He 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.000 said if he could be in the Olympics, he'd be 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.800 a fifteen hundred meter runner and fifteen hundred you know 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.720 those long strides. You saw it in that in that 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.720 ninety yard touchdown. I was like, he's gonna get caught. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.680 He's gonna get caught, and he just never did. Yeah, 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.760 and he didn't, like, yeah, he's just taking these long strides. 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.280 I always think about Vince Young, like like, he doesn't 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.240 look like he's running that fast because his legs aren't 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.399 moving that everybody else looks like they're standing steel. Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.240 and you know what I mean, he made his free throw. 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:57.840 That's the thing. You know, you can go and make it, 0:20:58.160 --> 0:20:59.600 score your point, but then go to the line and 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.040 make it. I like that. I just it was a 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.440 great celebrations all the way around. I'm not Sanjay lal, 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:07.720 it was no, you're right, You're right about that, but 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.080 I don't, like I don't know about route running, you know, 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.200 like I you know, I can. You gotta drop your 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.720 hips and lower your center gravity, but like I don't 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.320 know how to do that. But he just looks different, 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:20.119 like if you watch him, and it's like when you 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:21.720 have a chance to watch the replays, but even in 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.480 real time, like no offense to Dez Bryant. He was 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.440 great in his prime, but like even I mean Dez 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:30.359 ran slants and out muscled people, you know, like you 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:33.760 can see this dude, like the way he like shifts 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.800 his hips or like stutters his feed like and it 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:41.640 like it's obvious, like it creates this separation that is rare, 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.919 at least around here. It has been. I I'm not 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.680 used to seeing it, and maybe I don't watch enough 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.520 AJ Green or Julio Jones, but it just it looks 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.639 different from what I'm used to seeing. I was just 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:55.439 happy to see that. You know, for three games, you 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.720 could tell that he has done a better job and 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.439 the offense has done better with him here. But his 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.600 numbers aren't great because you know, we live in a 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:05.040 fantasy football world where it's just like they were great, 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.040 well they were great, and then they were on a 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.359 lot of people's bench. I understand that, but I'm just me. 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.600 I'm just saying, you know, he was like, he's this 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.160 guy's different and he's got well five catches for sixty yards? 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:16.959 Is that different? Was like, yeah, you know what I mean. 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.640 It's kind of hard to really say, yeah, but it is. 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.760 So finally this was a yeah, see which And I mean, 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:24.639 you're not going to do that every week. You'll probably 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.960 do that once a season. But but I mean even 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.240 in the games where even in the games where he 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.679 didn't blow up, I mean not that this is a 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:37.320 good thing, but he literally shook um what's he shook 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.639 Ronald Darby so bad that he tore his acl Like 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.560 if you go back and watch that, he he cut 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.080 on a dime twice in a row, and Darby literally 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.080 like couldn't stand up. You know, he's just he's he's 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:49.359 good at what he does. You know who he is 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.919 actually more than Julio Jones. I mean in that game 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.720 that it was a Terrell Owens type of game where 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:56.960 you catch the ball and then you spin away and 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.959 then it's just you and another guy. Now, who's who fast? 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:01.879 Because it's not like it was a running head start. 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:03.480 He was at a stand still. You know. It wasn't 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.879 like the Juju touchdown yesterday ninety seven yards. I mean 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.080 this was like, you know, over the middle should have 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.520 been about fifteen twenty yards, and so he's strength the 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.919 break tackles and then just on a dead sprint to 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.120 go out run everyone. I thought it was awesome. Yeah, 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.040 I think this is this is turning out to be 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.720 one of those moves at the Cowboys. Mate, that's so 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.080 far seems like it's worth it. And it's not often 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.680 you can say that when you get the first round 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:27.920 pick that you can go back and look at and say, man, 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:29.920 this is gonna be this might be a great trade. 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.600 But it sounds it's looking like it has the potential 0:23:32.640 --> 0:23:34.359 to be a really great move for the Cowboys. I 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.439 understand this. This math is faulty, I get, but I 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.560 still think it's fun. Like if you adjust his four 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:44.040 game stats for sixteen games, it's obscene, like eighty eight catches, 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.280 fourteen hundred yards, twelve touchdowns and even, and so I'm 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.000 you know, like, oh, well, of course you had a 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:50.800 two hundred yard game. How often you see that, So 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:54.639 I readjusted it and it's still like seventy something catches 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.959 for nine hundred and fifty yards, which again, I mean, 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.639 that's that's all you need to be in this offense. 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:03.240 That's exact the game out. I took the Thanksgiving game 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.400 out just to see, you know, just too, because that's 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.040 such a ridiculous outlier. You can't expect any receiver to 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:09.720 do that, but he will. I think the kind of 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:14.080 receiver he is, there will be one, two, possibly three 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:15.920 per year that he'll have like but that just games 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:17.960 where he just goes crazy, and then most of the 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:19.600 games will be what you see. There will be those 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:23.359 five six catches somewhere between sixty and eighty yards, and again, 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.520 in this offense, that's really all me and I understand 0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:28.280 why you did that, but like you have to leave 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.480 it in because when you take a first round pick, 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:35.240 that's what you're hoping for games like that, So that's 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:36.960 what you get. He's played four games. One of them 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.960 was a monster game, one of them wasn't that great, 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:40.920 two of them were pretty good. I just wanted to 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.320 see sides of it. Either way, it's good and the 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.360 residual effect of that is, now defenses have to pay 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.040 attention to him. And that's all you really wanted, you had, 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.359 you wanted to make defenses have to play you honest. 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.679 And because he's making these big plays, he's starting what 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:56.600 would be, as you said, would have been probably just 0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:59.600 a routine catch and he took it ninety yards. That 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:02.000 makes defensive think, you know, is it really worth us 0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.120 bringing that extra safety down in every circumstance like they've 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.359 been doing, or do we have to just kind of 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.240 pick and choose. And when we pick and choose, it 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.879 may create some really nice openings for a seat. And 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.640 they've done really nice job. This team needs a tight 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.639 end so bad. And I understand that their offense has 0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.040 done a lot better, but if you had a real 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.280 tight end that could that was like a complete tight 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.320 end who could stay on the line and block for you. 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.199 He also can get downfield for you. And there's not 0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:32.080 many of those guys and they've definitely been, you know, spoiled. 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:33.720 Do they go back to the well this offseason on 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.520 that one? You have to what's the well sorry, I 0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:38.960 mean draft like doing, but you know you have yeah, 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.680 I mean it has it's I mean, you haven't seen 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:43.359 what what Schultz can do yet. I mean, he's gonna 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.600 he's gonna obviously get bigger this offseason. You would hope. 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.919 Hope is not a strategy, I got you, That's true. 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.000 Like you gotta do. I mean, if you don't want 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:51.399 to spend your second round pick, that's fine, but you 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.920 gotta do something. Yeah, I mean yeah, free agency draft, 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.400 I think I think you can't run You can't run 0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:02.240 these back. In my opinion, I run him back. You can't, Hey, 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.040 I would. I'm I would love to sign Jeff Swain 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.200 to a contract like what James Hannah got. I would 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.920 love Swam to be my second tight absolutely. I would 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.520 love the Salts back to be my third. Yeah. And 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.119 then whatever you gotta do to find a starter to 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:21.080 experiment on what the experiment experiment has been over pretty cool? 0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.399 I mean yeah, yeah, I don't think he's gonna get 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:28.000 to fives. He's not gonna get to five catches. You 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.960 have five touchdowns. I think if there were ever a 0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.440 year where you know he's gonna be able to do something, 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.879 look at all the injuries, look at all the opportunities, 0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.520 and he's still it's just not you know what it 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:43.119 is them he's gonna go somewhere else and you're just 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.280 gonna have to just deal with it if he If 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:49.000 he does well, But they've done everything they can do. Yeah, 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.000 I just don't know. 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And Derek's 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.240 going to hook us up this year for Christmas with 0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:23.200 some Tommy John busy. That's so I just cool. You 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.200 better talk to missus Eagleton about that. Thanks. We got 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:27.760 a lot of people on the list. I didn't think 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.920 y'all were on it, but I second see, well that's okay, 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.880 what they I don't know whatever, Just stop stop stop 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:39.400 all right, let's let's jump back in the defense. The 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:43.240 Dallas defense. This defense it's playing well. Now. You don't 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.920 always get Colton McCoy. But you know, I do think 0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:47.560 you I do think Drew Brees is going to be 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.320 an upgrade there a little bit, a little bit. See 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.320 it's funny, like you're right. I mean, hey, they held 0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.800 them to twenty three points. They picked Colton McCoy off 0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:59.760 three times. My main takeaway from that game is that 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.040 they gave up a fifty three yard touchdown to Vernon 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:07.200 Davis as the first like really bad break in coverage 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.600 in a while. I mean, Julio Jones. But you're gonna 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:11.160 give those up every once in a while. I mean, 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.080 you're they still are human. I mean, that's gonna happen 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:17.800 from time. It's high right. They got Damien Wilson on 0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.840 a bad matchup there and which just gonna help. I know. 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:24.560 I just it troubles me when you think about who's 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.160 coming in here on Thursday. Let's put because no doubt 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.400 about that. And it's it's fitting because it's something I've 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.680 been working on, Like I literally for the last week. 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.400 I went back and looked, I'm like, what are the 0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:39.680 drives you know that have started in Dallas territory? And 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:43.200 how did they I'm sorry that have finished opposing territory 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.040 and how did they finish? So I just finished this 0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.600 this morning. Fifty eight drives where the opponent took the 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:53.640 ball in their own territory and drove it into Dallas territory, 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.560 and eighteen of them have ended in touchdowns, which is 0:31:56.560 --> 0:32:01.040 pretty good. Seventeen field goals, I think, nine punts and 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.760 a few takeaways. But they hadn't given up a play 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.600 like that in more than a month and then so 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.800 to see him give it up right there the week 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.240 before this Saints game bothered me. But but make no 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.080 mistake about it, there will be at least one moment 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.120 in this game against the Saints where they'll probably have 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:21.120 somebody get behind the defense and now it's gonna definite 0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.680 saying like against this team, you're not gonna go You're 0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.920 not gonna set them. I don't think that you're gonna 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:27.840 get them in an over Like they're not gonna go 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.000 all day without breaking a big play. That's what they do. 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:32.760 But that best in the league at it. That's how 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.520 you're gonna beat them. That's and that's it's I think 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.000 of the Houston game all the time. It's like, give 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.120 up all the yards you want, just don't let them 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.160 finish in the end zone. It's certainly and if they 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.120 are going to finish in the end zone, it needs 0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.200 to be a five yard touchdown or a three yard touchdown. 0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.400 You need to make them drive the length of the field. 0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:52.320 Giving up fifty three yards on a scoring play is 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.360 not winning defense. And it's fine against the Redskins when 0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.280 they're starting Colt McCoy and you can pick them off 0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:59.680 three times. But against Drew Brees that's not good enough. 0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:03.360 It's just not that's not good. And so I like, 0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.480 I'm hearing myself say it, and I feel like a 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.880 jerk because they played far like way more good than bad. 0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:13.600 But when you consider the upcoming opponent, that's just not good. Yeah, 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.200 I mean it's it's not ideal, But I still don't 0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.560 believe that if you give up a big play against 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.680 the Saints that means you lose. I think you still 0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:22.600 have to manage it. But you have to go into 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.800 this game knowing there may be moments when you get 0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.520 punched in the mouth, because that's the kind of offense 0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:28.440 that you're playing, and if you're gonna win, you have 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.920 to be able to jump back on after you get 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:32.720 punched in the mouth and be able to make the 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.360 next stop right. But I think, like you know, from 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.720 a boxing reference there, I don't think that the Cowboys 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.920 can get punched in the mouth and win. I really don't. 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.240 I think they have not even once. No, I mean 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.719 they have to be the first one. They have to 0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.520 take the fight to them. Yeah, you'll get punched back, 0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:54.360 and that's fine, but you can't get you can't. This 0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.160 isn't like Rocky Too, where you can just you know, 0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.239 get like two rounds where you're down and then all 0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.960 of a sudden start wreck. No, I don't think that 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.520 can happen. It has to be like oh nine, or 0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.000 they take it right to them and say, we're gonna 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.920 be here all day. This is a this is the 0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.439 way it is. We've got a seven nothing lead, we've 0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.719 got a ten three to lead, and and then you know, 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.360 hold on for life. I certainly don't think you're bouncing 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.480 back from fourteen to three. That's what I like. That's yeah, 0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:26.040 I agree in that regard. But I agree with you too, 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.000 like you're gonna get punched in the mouth by this 0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.800 team you just are? Did you work around it? Sorry? 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.600 Did y'all hear that they talked about. I mean, I 0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.920 guess al Michaels had a problem with the Vikings taking 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.560 the ball started the game yesterday. I don't know if 0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.640 y'all saw this on the broadcast. Well, just like and 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.160 then they did three and out and had to punt, 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:44.640 and he kind of talked about it. They went and 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.000 did their research at halftime and they said that ninety 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:50.439 five percent of the league has deferred when they won 0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.560 the toss. Ninety five Well, when did Jason Garrett start 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:58.160 doing this midway through the year? When you start it 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.319 wasn't quite midway? Was it season this season? He I 0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.240 don't actually, I don't think he has won the toss 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.120 and taken the ball this year really, but they've lost 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.640 a lot of tosses. That's the thing they've started with. 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:12.719 I thought it was early in the year the first 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:17.160 time he deferred. I thought it was like week I'm saying, 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.200 is that of the time. I'm thinking most of that's 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.960 gotta be Garrett. Not this year, though, I don't think that. 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.000 I really think early on they did. I don't think 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.360 that they have. I might be wrong. Last year they 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.479 did it all the time and then and this whole 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.120 thing started, Like I want to say, Week four of 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.480 twenty sixteen, they had done a great job and then 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.120 he's like, you know what, yeah, let's take the ball. 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.319 And it worked, and then they kept doing it in 0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.440 twenty seventeen even though it wasn't working. I really think 0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.719 they haven't done it this year because they lost the 0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.480 toss two or three times in a row to start 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.840 this season, and they went three and out and they're like, 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.840 you know what, we'll defer like everybody else, that's fine, 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.319 knowing that they have to, you know, get an early lead. 0:35:58.400 --> 0:35:59.799 What do you think you get the ball if you 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.000 win the toss. I still like to defer, but yeah, 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.239 I always defer. I mean, I guess just set the 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.480 tone early. I mean, the thing about it is, is 0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:09.759 crowd going to be unbelievable. I'm sure it'll be a 0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:11.840 lot of Saints fans will be Cowboy fans, of course, 0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.200 I mean it'll be it'll probably be a close to 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.040 fifty fifty maybe we'll see it might even be sixty 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.640 forty Cowboys. But it'll be so loud because there's their 0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:21.520 fans are louder. I don't know if there's any other 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.880 way to say it. They're just louder. Fans, so so 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.600 I do think if you do want to kick off, 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.319 you play some defense early and let's just see, let's see, 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.120 right off the bat, what do we have. I don't 0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.239 like the thought of sending them out there, sending the 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:35.919 Saints out there with a chance to take a seven 0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.160 nothing lead, but I don't like the thought of kicking 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:40.160 the ball to start it. But in the third quarter, 0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:43.400 right yeah, and the third quarters half of the stadium 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.080 is still doesn't remember that it's a thirteen minute and 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.600 a half time and they can't get back to their 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.200 seat and it's quiet, and Breech just goes Kamara for 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:54.759 Twylfth's you definitely want the ball in the third quarter. Yeah, yeah, 0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.759 I agree. And that's that's the way that if you 0:36:57.800 --> 0:36:59.759 do get punched them out early, that might be your 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.279 say even grace if you have the ball at the 0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.200 beginning the third quarter, because if you can turn around 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.200 and get that back to back score at the end 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.319 and score again at the beginning, it allows you to 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.480 get either some cushion or allows you to get back 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.000 into a game that you might be a little bit 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:14.319 behind without off the other posing offense having a shot 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.359 to get back on the fin I really do. All 0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.080 I know is I've seen this scenario before them, but 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:21.919 I really think that they can. I know you said 0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:23.399 it in the press box the other day, you don't 0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:26.480 really expect to pick the Cowboys, but wouldn't be surprised 0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.600 if they want at all. Who would be, like, I mean, 0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:33.640 nobody Vegas. Probably the Saints or seven point favorites I think, 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:40.160 so that's not huge. I mean the ten point favorites 0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:44.120 on a neutral field, Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. But 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.359 it's gonna it's gonna take all hands on deck. I mean, 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.360 how about you talked about defense. How about de Marcus 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:55.160 Lawrence again, I mean that interception and that I mean, 0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.480 it's not the best interception I've ever seen by de 0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.960 Marcus because what Ware did against the Falcons still that's 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:06.919 pretty almost lucky. But you know, quietly, he's playing so 0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:10.520 well that Tyrone Crawford's playing really well, and he just 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.720 doesn't have the numbers and and you know, for stat 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:15.600 I think that I think he's playing the best game 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:17.480 of his entire I mean, best season of his entire career, 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.480 and it's it's overshadowed because he's moving around doing different things. 0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:26.239 But but just de Marcus and those two guys, they're 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.040 they're leaders, you know, just with the way they play, 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.440 with the way that they're acting. I mean their defense 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.200 of line. It starts up there and both those guys. 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:36.400 I know, the laws getting a lot of the credit, 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.360 but I think you gotta, you gotta remember what Crawford 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:42.120 has been doing. Yeah, I need to look at him. 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:43.640 He's up to like at least four and a half, 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.919 if not five or more sacks Like he's yeah, he's 0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.759 I really admire the job that he's doing. And then not. 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.439 I mean, I've made my feelings on Tank perfectly clear. 0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:54.560 He needs to be extended the day after their season ends. 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.040 And the crazy part is the numbers don't even begin 0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.080 to do justice to the kind of season that DeMarcus 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:01.600 Lawrence is having. If you just look at his numbers, 0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.920 it's like, I was pretty good, but he's actually playing 0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:05.960 much better than that. Like the things that that don't 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.040 show up on the stat sheet, the way he's able 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.239 to affect plays without getting the tackle, without getting the sack, 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.640 it's huge in my I know I say this every 0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.880 week and I'm not name dropping, but I mean, we 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:17.919 did an interview with Steven Jones right after the game 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:20.640 and I said to him right before we were about 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.719 to do the interview, and I said, every play the 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.600 Marcus makes, it's just like hitting the pocket, you know, 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.680 hitting the wallet a little bit more. And he goes yeah. 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.920 He's like, yeah, it's the price that keeps going up. 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.239 But you know what, we're gonna do it. And you're 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.279 happy to do it when you got a player like that, right, 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.520 I mean, that's the kind of deal where you're like, hey, 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.480 if I gotta pay, at least I'm at least I'm 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.880 getting what I'm paying for. Right. Somebody brought that up 0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.080 to Jerry too, and he was like, he was like 0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:48.279 her de Marcus making it hit in your pocketbook, and 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.520 he's like a lot of guys are making a hit 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.279 in my pocketbook right now. He's like a mari He's 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.480 making a bid for some money too. No doubt they 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.160 got a lot of those guys coming up too. They 0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.239 have to figure out some some some ways to pay 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.239 all these guys, which you forgot about him, that it'll 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.680 be smart for them to actually extend him, right, you 0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:06.120 could probably, Yeah, you can lower number Byron Jones. You 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.440 don't have to, but you could. Yeah, you probably want 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.560 to consider it. I think he's playing really well too. 0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.160 I mean, if he if you could get in to 0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.680 agree to it, I would try to extend Zeke too, 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:17.840 and just just do it. Yeah, just do it. And 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.600 then I actually like that idea. Yeah, you keep him. 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.280 I mean, you get him under contract for a longer 0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.319 period of time, you can maybe lower his number off 0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.080 the fifth year option, and then if you extend him now, 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.040 then he's under contract until he's probably twenty eight or so, 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.320 and man, okay, hey, thanks for your time. You finish 0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.399 your career, unless, of course, at that point he's got 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.960 enough yards to where you keep him around just because 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.160 he's that kind of like he's m Smith, transcendent kind 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.680 of player, and you keep him around, right maybe, I mean, yeah, 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:45.840 you got to be special. I mean, Adrian Peterson is 0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.200 showing that. I mean, maybe he's not the same, but 0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.399 he's still showing that he can be pretty good. Well 0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:53.239 with that is off the field stuff. I suspect he 0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.399 may have continued where he was having to make a move. 0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:58.239 I really wonder if that would have been the case, 0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.880 because those kind of transcendent players you play for a 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.919 long time in your place, and then at some point 0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:05.759 you're gonna have to move on. Ladanian Tomlinson is a 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.879 good example. Eight or nine years. But but yeah, you'll 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.200 be there for a while, and and I think it 0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.040 could get beyond that second. We could stand him one 0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.040 more time. Look at those guys in that oh eight draft, 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.640 all all those backs in that draft. I think it. 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.640 You know, you've got Jamal Charles and Matt Forte and Fadden, 0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.160 and they all played about eight or nine years and 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.080 then it's like, I don't even know are they in 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.040 the league at all. I think Charles trying to be 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.200 in the league. Charles got cute. He came in for 0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.400 like a week or something. He was with the Panthers. 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.800 I think somebody brought him in. Didn't we just play him? Yeah? 0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:38.640 I mean no, we we played him this year. I 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.400 think it was the Airline. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.520 So I don't know. We had this whole conversation and 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:48.320 didn't bring up the quarterback. I have to pay him too, Yeah, yeah, 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.560 it would be so lukewarm. Nick, No, you do have 0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:53.319 to pay him. You have to pay him next year. 0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.120 I don't know. Yeah, I might defer on that a 0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:57.400 little bit because if you got to pay them. You 0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.759 gotta pay him anyway. Quarterbacks they're gonna cost. But I 0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:02.479 think i'd want to see as much as I could 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.640 possibly see before I made I agree with I agree 0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:09.680 with you, but I don't know. I mean, he's regardless 0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.480 of what you think about him, there's no denying the 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.440 fact that he's playing at an absurd discount compared to 0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.799 the going rate for a good starting quarterback, which I don't. 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.480 I mean, but don't you want to ride that as 0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.560 long as you can? What if Dak is like I 0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.640 ain't riding this. There's nineteen backups that are making more 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.000 than him. I looked this up. I'm not backups, Yes, 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:31.040 backup or going rate for a backup is like a million, 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:34.680 but nineteen, I'm not. I have heard nothing. I'm not 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.839 trying to suggest that. But like, what if Dak may 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:40.839 makes an issue of this? DA would I honestly don't 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:42.600 think he would. I don't know. Maybe he would. I 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.799 don't think you would. I would. I mean, even if 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.520 you think he's terrible, which he's not, But even if 0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.359 you think he is, he is playing at an absurd 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.120 discount compared to the going rate for a starting quarterback. 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.400 And so I just think that's something you got to 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.080 consider heading into the final year of his deal. I 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.040 mean is I think if you looked at the quarterbacks 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.239 in the in the history of the league, that are 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:07.239 the first three seasons of their career. Um, I only 0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.000 think there's I think he's right there in the top 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:12.680 four or five of wins. He's right there. Whatever inner 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:14.440 you can say, is it because of the line and 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:18.320 all the he's winning games. I can't. I can't imagine 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.480 him holding out, but I can imagine him in his 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:23.960 camp being deeply unhappy at the thought of having to 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:27.120 play another season on a fourth round picks rookie contract. 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.759 But but that being said, if that happens, then I 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.200 think the Cowboys would probably be okay with it because 0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.560 they could probably get him for a discount because of 0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.200 what he's done right now. He has won the games. 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.920 But from stats standpoint, where does he where would he 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.160 rank among the high What they did with with Romo 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.600 and the first big contract he got it was like 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.120 a little less than what you would say, maybe he 0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.040 could have even gone for, but they did it at 0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.480 the right time when there like sixty seven it was 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:56.800 something like that. But I know When the negotiations began, 0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.919 it was for to be the highest paid quarterback league, 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:01.640 and they did not end it and go that way. 0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:03.759 But I'm just saying, and so you know, you they'll 0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.880 they'll make the argument the Dak's camp about law the winds, 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.160 and then the Cowboys will say, well, look look at 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.480 the stats and look how much we have to help you. 0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:15.160 And so it's it's going to be interesting. I think 0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:17.480 that there will be a different offensive coordinator. I think 0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.520 it'll be a very It won't just be entitled of 0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.239 saying Dack friendly. This really will be Dack friendly. I 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.759 don't think the system is friendly for Dak, but I 0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.319 think I think it will be um if they get 0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.040 a new new system. I think you have to you know, 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.040 I think it depends on what happens here down the stretch, 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.040 because I'll tell you this, if if they keep rolling 0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:36.680 like they're rolling right now, it's gonna be hard to 0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.200 make a lot of moves once the offseason gets here. 0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.319 I think I don't agree with that. But the well, 0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.279 the funny thing for me is, and you know, the 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.400 Cowboys are in as favorable a spot as anybody in 0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:51.160 the NFC East, But you know, a month ago. All 0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:55.799 looked hopeless. So there's there's a coaster, Give me a twister, 0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.680 a turn or two before it's all said and done. 0:44:57.719 --> 0:44:59.440 All right, appreciate you guys, join us. We'll be back 0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:01.759 tomorrow where another edition of The Break Till then for Nike, 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:03.560 even Dave Helmet. I'm Derek Hilton. This has been The 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:07.960 Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has 0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.840 been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.760 Dallas Cowboys Football Club.