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Speaker 1: I do know that. Guys, we did Adler's third birthday,

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Speaker 1: Boys to MENSA Loves straight up nineties title nineties title,

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Speaker 1: Sean actually tells him not to do it, but core

426
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: Corey says he's not smart, and tomorrow he's going to

427
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 1: be a genius. And sure enough, the next day we're

428
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: in in Phoenie's classroom. He announces that there is a

429
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: student who got the highest i Q score and who

430
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: deserves a special mention bends off shucks face throughout this

431
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: thing where he's just kind of like raising his eyebrows

432
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: looking around like it's it's really good. He just keeps

433
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: that going for the whole first half of the scene, which,

434
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: by the way, is maybe aside from the fact that

435
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: Phenie already knew going into it that there's no way

436
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: this was legit him knowing it's him. If you were

437
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: a genius, you would probably be completely unsuspecting, like what

438
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: it was me or sure, there's no way, but he

439
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: is making the space to everyone in this big exaggerated way.

440
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: It's me, it's me, And I love how and we

441
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: can we can get into this also later in the episode.

442
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: But I love how. Nobody buys it. Oh yeah, No,

443
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: there's not a single person that's like, wow, we didn't

444
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: expect that. Nobody, you know, Lee, you know, Mancus, nobody's parents.

445
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: Nobody buys it. But they don't make it explicit, and

446
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: that's super interesting. It's like buried throughout the whole. So

447
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: I think, like watching it with India, I think that

448
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: there was some like do they know? Do they like?

449
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: I think he you know, even quite understand. I Q

450
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: like the whole concept of like cheating and i Q

451
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: but he did understand. He was always like, is Corey

452
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: going to get in trouble? Is Corey are they going

453
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: to finally talk about you know? Does he know? So

454
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: I think for kids that does kind of work. Yeah. Yeah.

455
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: I also like the idea of we're not we're not

456
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: going to call you on it right now, We're going

457
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: to let your conscience. We've we've raised you well enough

458
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: to know you're eventually going to call yourself on this.

459
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,479
Speaker 1: So we're going to see some like state testing what

460
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: organization from me? Yeah, yeah, where it's like, yeah, that's

461
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: I did. Like though their argument was at the end

462
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: Betsy does say we didn't have any proof, and so

463
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: it is it is an interesting thing to say, We're

464
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: not going to just call you a cheater. Yeah, I'm

465
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: not just going to outright call you a cheater because

466
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: I truthfully can't. I don't suspect that it's the truth,

467
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: but I can't prove that you are lying. And so

468
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to let you face the consequences of this

469
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: until you're willing to come clean, which I think is

470
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: is actually smart parenting. Or Corey really is a genius

471
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: and Betsy and Rusty's characters are not smart enough to

472
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: realize that's also probably not what it is. It's probably not.

473
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: Uh So, Mincus thinks he's the one who Phoenie is

474
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: going to announce as the genius in the class, and

475
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: then he finds out he came in second. And one

476
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: of my favorite things that happens in this scene that

477
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: I do not know if someone told her to do

478
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: it or she just did it. On her own. But

479
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: the girl who is sitting in the front seat is

480
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: drawing on her arm with a sharpie. She's just like this,

481
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: head down, right, left hand with the sharpie, right arm,

482
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: either drawing on her shirt or lifting her shirt sleeve up,

483
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: or drawing on her arm. Something she and I wrote,

484
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: is drawing on her arm with a sharpie. And I thought,

485
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if somebody told her to do that in

486
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: the scheme of uh genius, like, oh, do something, do

487
00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: something that's not that's at I bet you it's just

488
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: a board extra. She was just like, and I think

489
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: it's funny that neither of us saw that. How we're

490
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: all watching different things when we watch the show, because

491
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: that's your seat. That's exactly what I'm looking at. That's

492
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, we didn't even notice that,

493
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: but that you're like, that's where I'm supposed to be.

494
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: I'm noticing everything she's doing. She's drawn on her arms. Unbelievable,

495
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: that is That's exactly why I was looking at it.

496
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: I was thinking I should be saying that that's my secret,

497
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: my seat. Uh So Mr Phoenie says he needs to

498
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: bow to Corey's genius and Corey turns to Sean, suspecting

499
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: that Phoenie knows it's a big It's a very big deal.

500
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Mr Matthew, Yeah, very cool. Uh. And then we are

501
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: in the Matthews living room and we see for the

502
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: first time that Betsy Amy Matthews does have a job,

503
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: at least part time out of the house. In every

504
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: episode up until this point, she has been handing someone

505
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: an apple, fluffing pillows, who know, you know, doing something

506
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: with Audrey Andrey. And this time she's dressed very nicely,

507
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: and we learned that she is at least a part

508
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: time real estate agent. So she is getting ready. Yeah,

509
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: she's showing a house. It's still the bricks split I remember,

510
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: you always remember that. So she's in one episode she's

511
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: just and it's just stuck with me. She's trying to

512
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: sell the bricks split level on Oak Street. And Will

513
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: would say this for all seasons. You don't remember this.

514
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: It was always like, I don't know why, I just

515
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: became the joke. It was like, where's where's Betsy. Well,

516
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: she's trying to sell the split brick split level on

517
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: Oak Street. Six years on the we haven't seen that yet.

518
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: That doesn't think it. I thought about that. It's like,

519
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: oh wait, is this the bricks level? But she has Okay,

520
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: so she's yeah, she's showing a house. We're going to

521
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: talk about this later because she's also called a homemaker there. Yes,

522
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: she's a homemaker with a part time job. Yes, yes,

523
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: that's what he says. And she's also a real estate agent.

524
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get into it. But yeah, that was interesting. Yeah, well,

525
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if a homemaker is something different than a housewife.

526
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: So we'll discuss that when we get to it. Because

527
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: he mentions a home maker and then talks about how

528
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: all of this helps to create the home. And part

529
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: of that is she also works outside of the house

530
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: and that helps bring an extra income and so that's

531
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: what's making the home. It's like an ecosystem. I don't know,

532
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it later. So um uh. Amy says

533
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: that they're going to buy Morgan's Halloween costume tomorrow, so

534
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: it you know, we have the Halloween theme running through

535
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: the episode. Eric walks in and he's going to watch

536
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Morgan now, and he says he's going to teach her

537
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: how to take out the trash so that he doesn't

538
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: have to. Yeah, this is one. This is an episode

539
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: I think if memory serves and I could kind of

540
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: hear it because I know my voice very well. I

541
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: think I had a cold, and so it was one

542
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: of those things where you know, I'm living in l

543
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: A for the first time, I'm I'm seventeen years old,

544
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm living with a legal guardian. And it was like, oh,

545
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: you're not You're not just allowed to call in sick

546
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: because you have a cold, Like the show must go on,

547
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta go off, and you gotta do

548
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: the show. And then we're talking about coupling people up,

549
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: preparing pairing characters up. This is really the first time

550
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: that Eric ever calls Morgan weasel yeah, And so they're

551
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: trying to remember that became it did for like three episodes.

552
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: It was like they're trying, Okay, it's gonna be Eric

553
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: and Morgan. We'll try this pair. Like that pair didn't work,

554
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: so let's try this one. And this is when they

555
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: were really trying to now pair us and could you drive?

556
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: Could your character drive? At this point, no, because they

557
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: talked about you getting a ride home? Well, because doesn't

558
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: Amy say is either. In this episode of the last episode,

559
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: she says, I've been a parent now for fifteen years. Okay,

560
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: so you're not two, And then she also says he

561
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: was born in oh and you guys are going together

562
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: to the Arrowsmith concert, right, yes, would have made your Yeah, yeah,

563
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: because I was seventeen and I was born seventy six,

564
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, um, and then it switched around where

565
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: that you know then, because what great did you end

566
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: up being in like a fourteenth year senior or something.

567
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: By the time we were done, I've been at Pembroke,

568
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: you know for thirty five years? Yeah, both, yeah, but

569
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: they were they were then, yeah, trying to hook Eric

570
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: and Morgan up where it's like, all right, let's try

571
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: this pair now and see if this is going to

572
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: be some comedy here. And you are cute with kids,

573
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: which is you know, I mean later on you ended

574
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: up being paired with a child as well. Yeah. Yeah,

575
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: I like working with kids. I just don't want them

576
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: around me all the time, right, we get it. We

577
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: don't like having exactly do you writ brought one to

578
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: the house today? I asked permission. I could have found

579
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: a babysitter. No, never, of course I love kids, I

580
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: really do. Okay, So Eric says he will take Morgan

581
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: to get her Halloween costume today. She's very excited. Corey

582
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: and Shawn walk in frantically. Okay, this was another horrible acting.

583
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: Do you noticed Ben and I just standing there waiting

584
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: for the door to open because you exit and we

585
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: happened to be entering, but you could. She's just standing

586
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: that we can actually see your silhouettes that we didn't

587
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: run in. I was just like, look at me, I'm

588
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: just standing away. It's like the most Now, why do

589
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: you think, like David Traynor is the director. We we

590
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: know as directors that that is something you tell you

591
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: have to tell actor kids to do take a couple

592
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: of steps. But you know, also like we probably did

593
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: three or four takes and this was just a take

594
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: where it looks really bad and for whatever you know,

595
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: and and the director doesn't get final cut. So if

596
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: there's another reason that they liked another take, yeah, you know,

597
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: because David could have been great and given us that note.

598
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: But it's also possible that there's just so many things

599
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: on kid time that some things just slipped through the plasm.

600
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, so I did not notice that, you know,

601
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 1: but you obviously did because it because it's you. But

602
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: I thought you were wonderful. Um, so you yeah, you

603
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: guys walk in frantically, and Amy and Eric know something

604
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: is up and it must be terrible, and then you guys,

605
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: you guys leave. Then we're up in Corey and Eric's room.

606
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: Corey tells Sean. Mr Finnie knows he cheated. Sean opens

607
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: the letter Mr Finie wrote to Corey's parents. Now I

608
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: don't know if this was a continuity thing or what,

609
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: but like Corey definitely says, what are you doing? That's

610
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: a that's an envelope addressed to my parents. And then

611
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: the argument is, we'll just put it in another white envelope.

612
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: I assumed that meant on the front of the envelope

613
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: it said Mr and Mrs Matthews on it, but I

614
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: guess it was just a white sealed envelope or they

615
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't know that it was originally addressed to them. I

616
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: also love how Corey the idea of like, we'll just

617
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: put it in another envelope was like, WHOA, yeah, exactly,

618
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I never even thought of that. Well here's the thing here,

619
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: I will I will actually make an argument for that

620
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: because I was a really good kid. Yeah, me too.

621
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: It would never occur to me to manipulate the situation.

622
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: And so I think if you are, Cory's already been established,

623
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: that's kind. But you know, I don't know if he

624
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: is mischievous that you know what he is. He's a negotiator,

625
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: Like he's the kind of guy who wants to argue.

626
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: He talks his way through everything. That's a little different

627
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: than like like a schemer who get you know, So

628
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: he's more of ala. It's more like a little loyally

629
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: stand up comic and trying to talk his way out

630
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: of things rather than you. Maybe more are the like

631
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: actual planner of the schemes. Yeah, that makes sense, that

632
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: makes sense. That Yeah, I mean I wrote down Sean

633
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: is kind of an evil sidekick, you know, And that's

634
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: it's the beginning of that. Also, God, man, I never

635
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: stopped touching my hair, ever stopped touching your annoying. I

636
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 1: can't believe it. They didn't like talk to me. They

637
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: loved it. Are you kidding this? You were then in

638
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: the team maaging a year later they loved distracting like

639
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: I just want to It's clearly a nervous habit, like

640
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: a tip. Well, I also noticed in this episode we

641
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: get another a couple of bend belt pulls. I also

642
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 1: think that is just a it's just a nervous That's

643
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: why I can't believe anybody didn't tell me, like Michael

644
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: or any of the directors, like right, or stop touching

645
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: your hair because it's so distracting. Don't. Maybe it's not

646
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: as attracting everybody. That's the thing is, Maybe you're just

647
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: hyper vigilant of a watch. I stand in the bedroom

648
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: scene more than anywhere else. Yeah, in the bedroom scene

649
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: for sure, but it also doesn't take me out of

650
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: the scene. I just think, oh, there's writer doing the thing. Um.

651
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's definitely more distracting to you because

652
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: it's you. But you know what else it is. Honestly,

653
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: it's because they're straightening your hair. Um. It's one of

654
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: those things. If you watch any show or movie, any

655
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: actor playing with their glasses is an actor who doesn't

656
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: wear glasses in your life. So you have your hair

657
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: being done every day, you're not used to it, so

658
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: it's like your hands are going through it totally. So

659
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: it's that kind of trick. It's also significantly longer when

660
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: it's straightened and so it's in your eyes and you're

661
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: trying to get it out of your face. Um, okay,

662
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: so they open the letter. Yeah, I wrote bad influence

663
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: Sean really the start of this. Now, I also noticed

664
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: this is such a stupid thing. But we listen. We

665
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: watched the shows with chirons with the you know, sometimes

666
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: in this episode the chiron says, Sean spelled s e

667
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: a N. Really, yes, and then later in the show

668
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: it's spelled Sean s h a w N. Are you

669
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: watching on old school DVD? Are you watching on Disney Plus?

670
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Disney Plus? Interesting? Me too? Yes, Yeah, so I noticed.

671
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: I just because it has occurred to me a few

672
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: times when people don't know how to spell our character names,

673
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: and I think, well, how do people not know how

674
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: to spell our character names? I go, oh, because they

675
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: weren't reading the scripts. I've always been baffled by the

676
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: opposite question, how do they know how to spell? Because

677
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: Sean's usually everyone because the female version of Shawn has

678
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: spelled s h a w N. Traditionally s e a

679
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: N is the male version, So the writers kind of

680
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: made a mistake by spelling Sean the way they did,

681
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: and yet everybody knows it. Like fans people come up

682
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: to me, they always spell it. Well. There are definitely

683
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: episodes where it was written somewhere. It's in the title

684
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: of the episode where it's where where there was I

685
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: know there's an episode I don't remember what it is,

686
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: but there's an episode where we are our class. Um,

687
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: our yearbook pictures are in there, and so they have

688
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: our name o yearbook pictures. So uh, Corey is always

689
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: spelled correctly to which you know you could do it

690
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: with an E, and people always and I'm like, how

691
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: do they figure this out? Right now? But I guess

692
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: there are scripts of Boy It's World available online because

693
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: I've had people show up and yeah, me too. Yeah,

694
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: I wonder again though it's it's also experiences. I know

695
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: that sounds ridiculous, but my best friend growing up when

696
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: out until I was like eight years old, was named

697
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Sean and it was s J w N. It was yeah,

698
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: so interesting. So um so yeah, I mean that's to

699
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: me that was always spelled correctly. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

700
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: it's very strange. Okay, So they open the letter and um,

701
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: they're just gonna replace the envelope, so then we're still

702
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: in Corey. In Eric's room, Corey is listening to classical

703
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: music with his Phillies finger on. Now I remember this specifically.

704
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Do you know why I remember this? I remember this

705
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: because they brought Ray Colcord down to the set to

706
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: work with Ben on how to conduct a symphony. Like

707
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: I remember, actually remember because it has nothing to do

708
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: with it. But he came down to the set, he

709
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: had his baton and he was teaching Ben how to

710
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: conduct a symphony. Like I'll never forget that. It's really funny.

711
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: They're just like, all right, Corey Matthews, are you listening

712
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 1: to classical because well they do, say they've just come

713
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: from the meeting with Phoene. So imagine as a parent,

714
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: you get called to the school and Phoeny says, so

715
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: he's taken an i Q test and apparently he's a genius.

716
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: And then the whole way home they're saying, do we

717
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: buy this? But how would he? Would he cheat? And

718
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't he come clean? And then you walk into the

719
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: house and you hear classical music coming from his bedroom.

720
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: You would walk in a little bit like this first show.

721
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: Now do you think that was the conversation they had

722
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: or do you think the conversation is Phoenie going, he

723
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: cheated on the test? Yeah, I think that's exactly. Yeah,

724
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: it's like, how do you guys want to play that? Yeah, exactly,

725
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: and then being like oh, looks like yeah, yeah, yeah,

726
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Yeah. I feel like that's too direct for Phoenie.

727
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: I feel like Phoenie parents, well, not playing the parents,

728
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: but a little bit of the same way. So the

729
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: parents who we want to just come right out with

730
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: no proof and call your kid a cheater. I feel

731
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: like Phoenie would have said, listen, I we know this child, well, yes,

732
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: and this and so this is out of character. This

733
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: feels out of character to me, what are your thoughts?

734
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: And let them agree with him and then say, so,

735
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: how do we all play that? You're the Poenie whisper? Yeah,

736
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: talking about us? More about back story? I want to know. Seriously.

737
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: He also does that with what's salad to eat? Every

738
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: night he makes a salad for dinner. It's just and

739
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: that's a spinach, a giant bull. So I just came

740
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: up with a TV show, prequel, prequel show origin story

741
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: for Phoenie. People talking and people have pitched that really,

742
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: because how great would it be to see him in

743
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: high school or in college and like with his Mr Feenie. Wow,

744
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, I would love to watch that show.

745
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: But make it like a straight coming and it's it's

746
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: basically like Dangerous Minds, like the evolution of him as

747
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: a teacher, Like it's his first year teaching out of college.

748
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: So he's only because he said that he had been

749
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: teaching for thirty five years and it's Vietnam era American

750
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: Really Yeah that's okay, So end of Korean War. Okay,

751
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: so fifty eight he's teaching. Yeah, this would be an

752
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: amazing and he's him in high school. No, I want

753
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: to see him. I want to see Dangerous Minds. Uh

754
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: standing deliver, you know, like the teacher who becomes like

755
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: maybe I'm talking sitcom. No, it's a movie that's drama.

756
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: That's that's true. I think he's a total hippie. Yeah,

757
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: he's just a total flower child. He's just No. People

758
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: have said that to me. They're like, you know, you

759
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: should do you should do a prequel a Fenie and

760
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: you should play him. I was like that seems like

761
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: that would take people out of the realm for that

762
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Be hard to focus on. Yeah, but

763
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: listen writer, we'll develop this idea after Okay, So he's

764
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: listening to classical music. He's got the Philli's finger on.

765
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: Alan and Amy were watching him from the front door.

766
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: They say they know about the i Q test that

767
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: he scored the highest in the history of the school district.

768
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: And Amy says she doesn't understand why Corey's i Q

769
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: tests are way up here but his test scores are

770
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: way down here. And Corey says it's because of a

771
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: flaw in their public education system and the system has

772
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: failed him. That's like the genius Corey lawyer in league exactly.

773
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a pretty great argument response.

774
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Morgan walks into the room. She's dressed like a zombie.

775
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: She's got a fake eyeball hanging from her face, and

776
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Eric is super proud of it because Morgan picked it

777
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: out herself. Yes, I actually thought so. The last episode

778
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: was really painful for me to watch the Nicky Coxs episode. Yeah,

779
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: that was that is horrifying for me. Like, um, this one,

780
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: I felt like I was a little bit more comfortable. Yeah,

781
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: it was not great, but it was definitely I was

782
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: starting to slowly get it a little bit. So this

783
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: one was not as painful to watch, and we talked

784
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: about how the last episode was actually the first episode

785
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: that we film. That's that's why. But it's this. This

786
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: was a little right between one oh five and one

787
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: oh six, actually a lot of times like four episodes.

788
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: But here's a question for you, guys. Did you ever

789
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: get so around the after you've shot two or three episodes,

790
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: generally then the episodes that you've shot go to research

791
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: and focus groups watched the episodes, and most not. Back

792
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: then that was Disney. That's that's now Disney Channel does that? Okay?

793
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: Back then ABC did not. I doesn't say so, did

794
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: you guys get you They didn't do focus groups and

795
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: you didn't get feedback. I never got enough that it

796
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: wasn't there something back in the day called like your

797
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: Q rating, which they weren't supposed to do, and you

798
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: weren't supposed to know what it was supposed to. Everybody

799
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: did it anyway, and it was like it was it

800
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: was technically like it wasn't illegal, but it was like,

801
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: you don't. It's basically the equivalent of knowing how many

802
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: followers somebody has on social Yes, QUE rating was your

803
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: recognizability based on some sort of algorithm that took into

804
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: account how many times you appeared on television and how

805
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: high of a rating those appearances made, and then they

806
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: were able to break it down. I got a copy

807
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: of did you really? I got a copy of the

808
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: QUE rating. This was like some my manager or whatever

809
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: got ahold of it, and I was like on a list,

810
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: and I was like thirty something I want to say,

811
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: And I remember everybody being like, oh, that's actually a

812
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: pretty high Q rating. I had a high Q rating two,

813
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: and I just knew it was about because even it's

814
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: about whether or not somebody they may not know your name,

815
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: but if they look at your face they go, yes,

816
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: I know her. And so it's it's frequency on television,

817
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: like and it would take into account if you were

818
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: on a news program or had done an interview, and

819
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: it would take all of that into account and sort

820
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: of crunch the numbers to say, like, you've been seen

821
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: by this many people this consistently, so therefore we can

822
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: put you on a rating scale of like I believe

823
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: you got to hold it? Yeah, no idea, what mine

824
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: never was? Or I don't remember what I mean. I'm

825
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: sure what it does, I think, Yeah, I'm sure it

826
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: does they just don't talk about you won't use it anymore.

827
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: Now you could just know your influence tr social media. Um, okay,

828
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: so yes, I thought you were very natural in this.

829
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: You're you, and you're at better. We're all getting comfortable

830
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: with like the very notion of a sitcom, definitely, and

831
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: more comfortable with each other, and it's and you know,

832
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: we're getting to know each other as people, and that

833
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 1: always makes a difference when you're getting closer to your cast,

834
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: where just everybody gets more natural and just kind. Yeah,

835
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: you naturally fall into it a little bit. Can we

836
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: talk about Lily zombie outfit? How awesome it is? It

837
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: was pretty girl, It's great, it was really cool. So

838
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: then the next day we're back in Phoenie's classroom and

839
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: Sean tells Corey to enjoy all the attention he's getting,

840
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: but Corey does not like it, especially since now his

841
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: parents are involved and they want to blame the school

842
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't. So this is the first time again

843
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: where now we see Corey and Sean hatching their scheme.

844
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: I love this, this little like pow wow moment back

845
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: and forth. The banter of this is kind of probably

846
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: the first time and then I wrote, this is the

847
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: establishment of this episode together Uncovering, and that like him

848
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: turning back to have this conversation with me is like

849
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: I just remember that as like you know, that's in

850
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: my body like I saw it happened. I was like,

851
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I spent years doing that, sitting on the

852
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: edge of the desk or leaning forward in the desk.

853
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: But he turned around like that was just that's just

854
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: how we lived our life for six years of filming

855
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: this show. But it was no longer Corey and a

856
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: group of guys. It was now Corey and shown exactly

857
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: and it was and you can tell how well it worked.

858
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: It's it's a really fun um watching you guys one

859
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: pairing up where they went, okay, that's done, like yeah

860
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: we got that. Um okay, So you guys decide that

861
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: you can blame the school because if you hadn't found

862
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: the answers, you wouldn't he wouldn't be in this situation

863
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't have found the answers had you guys

864
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: not been in detention. So ha and I love you

865
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: say nothing we do is it's so great? Um? And

866
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: then Mincus walks up Lee and he wonders how why

867
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: Corey copies off of his paper if he's such a genius,

868
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: and uh, you tell him it's it's um that you're admiring.

869
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: He's admiring another genius's work. And by the way, you

870
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: then have a genius envy joke. You say genius envy.

871
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: It's a penis envy joke, straight up penis envy joke,

872
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: which I obviously don't think Scott. At the time, I

873
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: did not get it why it wasn't there, But I

874
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't. I would not have understood it until now,

875
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: and then I was like, hey, pretty clever. I guess

876
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: I probably understood it. If not, I probably would have

877
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: asked somebody. You understood it as much as you could

878
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: possibly understand without actually dying. I don't think what penis

879
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: envy was at that age, yeah, Mr So. Mr Finnie

880
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: then walks in with a substitute saying she is going

881
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: to teach the class while he talks to Corey outside.

882
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean this is a total nightmare. By

883
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: the way, this scene in the classroom is where the

884
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: Chiron ended up saying sean regular was spelled correctly, So

885
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: in this scene we get Sean correctly. So we are

886
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: in the school cafeteria. It's empty. Phoene's making himself a

887
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: cup of coffee and he asks Corey if there's anything

888
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: he wants to bring up to him. Corey says he

889
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: wants to talk about sports. And his laugh that he

890
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: does is great, so funny. It is the most natural

891
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: laugh I've ever seen a kid do on a on

892
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: a show. It's so funny. Um. So he laughs because

893
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, caught and nervous or feels like

894
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: he may be caught um. And so he gives them

895
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: options about what he wants talk about. Corey says, oh,

896
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: let's talk about sports. Phoenie says there's a school that's

897
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: better for people with his kind of an IQ, and

898
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: that the current school is holding him back. So he's

899
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: not going to be at John Adams High anymore or

900
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: John Adams Middle School as it is, and he says

901
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: that he's no longer in his class. And this is

902
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: when Corey realizes for the first time that this has

903
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: very his lie has very bad repercussions. Now we come

904
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: back and we're in Corey and Eric's room and this

905
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: writer is where you are wearing an outfit that I think. Actually,

906
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: I actually wrote on my shoes are pretty cool? Were they? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

907
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I thought maybe for sure you'd bring that up. I

908
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: have sneakers on red something I don't know. I was like, oh,

909
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: I was so distracted by the upper half of your outfit.

910
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: I didn't pay attention to the shoes because you are

911
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: wearing a blue long sleeve with a print some sort

912
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: of print short sleeve. But I'm putting short sleeve in

913
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: quotes because it comes to me four it's medium sleeves.

914
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: It's for what we we would call extra in the

915
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: in the in the pants. So there you go. There,

916
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: there's the picture. Now the blue long sleeve the equivalent

917
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: of a shant shirt, and then and then a den

918
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: invest over it and the short shirt. And look at

919
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: us both with hoods. Are you both cants? Are they

920
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: do they go all the way to the bottom? Are

921
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: you wearing three quarter? They do? They just they're so baggy,

922
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: they're like resting on his shoes. And then you've got

923
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: cool sneakers on that. Again, I was so but I

924
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: look at this and I really do think other than

925
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: that shirt being that short sleeve shirt being a little

926
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: too long, I actually like that outfit. Okay, Okay, I

927
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: think that's kind of cool. I mean, it's it's basic.

928
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: The goal of the costumer was clearly too layer. Everybody

929
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: is layered, and it's kind of true, like if people

930
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: just wear T shirts, especially kids, it gets kind of boring, right,

931
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: Like the whole idea is to like give give people

932
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: a little depth. And you know, so I have a

933
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: question at which and again this might be something I'm

934
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: completely making up. It might also just be a rationalization

935
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Do you have any

936
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: where any of those multi layers? Did any of that

937
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: have to do with making it so you didn't feel

938
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: the balls when they were shot at you? Oh? You know?

939
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: Or four? Three or four? I'm caring three or four,

940
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: and so is bed Like we're always wearing three or four.

941
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: I thought to say, what my question is, is there

942
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: where the show takes place in Philly? Is there some

943
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: of it that's an aspect of well, it may be

944
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: cold outside, but we don't want to have jackets on

945
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: because jackets that's a better that's a better question. So

946
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: that's what the red Do you guys ever feel like

947
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: our show took advantage of its location, though in that sense. No,

948
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: like we never really creatively about like well this besides

949
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: him liking Phillies. But I mean, all through seven seasons,

950
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: we are just kind of a generic place. That's what

951
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: That's what you want, though you wanted to be any town,

952
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: USA so that you can watch the show. I don't

953
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: think so. I think setting is so important. It depends

954
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: on what kind of show. For an adult show, yes,

955
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: New York has its own kind and that's why every

956
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: sitcom Seinfeld Friends, they were all in New York. For

957
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: a kid show. You want a kid to be able

958
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: to turn on the show in the middle of the

959
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: country and go, this is my house. Yeah, totally. No,

960
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: it's it's very suburban. We don't know where and you know,

961
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: but then there are episodes where like, you know, I

962
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: become a gangster, are working for gangsters. So we're definitely

963
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: in a city. But I think about it. It's it's Halloween,

964
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: it's October, and of October in Philly, it's probably pretty cold.

965
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: And yet you guys they were having any discussions like

966
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: that from I mean, I don't think. I don't think

967
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: we ever talked about, ever talked about like the winner. Well,

968
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: I know, for a fact that I was talked about

969
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: with weather because I was constantly put in jackets. And

970
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: here's a fact. I cannot act in a jacket. I

971
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: have no talent with a jacket off. If you put

972
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: me in a jacket and suddenly on my I can't

973
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: do anything with this jacket. I if I have a

974
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: jacket on, the first thing I want to know is

975
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: when do I get to take my jacket off? And

976
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: I work in taking my jacket off because I cannot

977
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: act in a jacket. And so I know that I

978
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: was regularly talked about like well, it's supposed to be winner,

979
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: and it was like lazy, I don't care. They would

980
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: often do that then with Winnard. But do you remember

981
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: ever doing that with summer, like meaning it's like we're

982
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: gonna put you in shorts because it's obviously hot outside. No,

983
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: not really like that never happened. No, I know, I

984
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: don't remember any of these conversations about weather or setting.

985
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: Like to me, it was always like we were just

986
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: you walked into the little to the little wooden places

987
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: behind the set where your clothes were hanging, and you

988
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: put on your clothes and you walk out of the

989
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: set like that was it. We're gonna talk about this. Yeah,

990
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: it's a good time for the Well, yeah, I think so.

991
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: I've already asked him. Oh you have asked him now? Well, yeah,

992
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: how do you feel about changing your clothes? What? What?

993
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: Do you have? Any issues with getting dressed? I can't

994
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: stand it. I hate it. I hate really I hate.

995
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: I hate trying on clothes. I hate shopping for clothes.

996
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: I hate having to change my clothes. But it's having

997
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: to change when you walk into a room and there's

998
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: a bunch of different outfits that you have to put

999
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: on to try stuff on your heart, yes, and to

1000
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: do it fast possible, get it out of the way,

1001
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: And it also has to immediately be hung up on

1002
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: a hangar because never onet of those to drop my

1003
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: foes on the floor that you just we were doing

1004
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: all this press stuff and you just because I look

1005
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: awful all the time, I'm not good with clothes. I

1006
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: just and never have been. You put me with your

1007
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: wonderful style, amazing stylist Mimi who was coming. I had

1008
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: COVID at the time, so I couldn't actually see her

1009
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: in person, but she would come to the house and

1010
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: she would drop off bags of clothes in the front

1011
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: of the house, and I would stare at the bags

1012
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: of clothes before I even opened the door because I

1013
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: was anxious. So, dear, dear listeners, this is a realization

1014
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: I have. About three weeks ago or a month ago,

1015
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: I was getting dressed, hating it as I always do,

1016
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: because when I am changing my clothes, my heart starts racing.

1017
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I've got to get it done as

1018
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: fast as possible. And I was like, wait a minute,

1019
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: why do I feel this way? And I walked into

1020
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: the next room where my wife was working. I was like, Alex,

1021
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: do you do you ever get stressed out by changing?

1022
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: She's like, no, I have no idea what you're talking about.

1023
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: And I realized this is a holdover from when we

1024
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: were on the show. We would have to change while

1025
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: the entire audience was waiting between scenes, so the cameras

1026
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: would be moving from one set to the other, and

1027
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: we would have to run backstage because it's different days

1028
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: of course about the sea throughout the course of and

1029
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: you have to and they and there's time pressure because

1030
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: we have to get the episode done in time for

1031
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: the nine and a half hour limit that that kids

1032
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: can only work and the audience is only there for

1033
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: like three so there was so much pressure on us

1034
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: to get changed quickly and to put on those clothes

1035
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: in time for the next scene, so they wouldn't wait

1036
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: for us like that was always what was the fear, right,

1037
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: is that you'd be that, that you'd hold up all

1038
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: the production. And I just realized I've internalized this so much.

1039
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: So then I came and I asked you, Danielle, and

1040
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: you said, yes, I am the exact same way. Getting

1041
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: dressed is something that needs to be done very quickly.

1042
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: I still sometimes will if I have to, um, if

1043
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: I know the next day I have a time crunch,

1044
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: I'll figure out what I'm going to wear the night

1045
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: before and then put it in. Do do that? I

1046
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: do that? I do if there's thing I have to do,

1047
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: like with I'm gonna fly, My outfit that have to

1048
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: wear for the plane is laid out, the shoes are next,

1049
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: you know. But I do that with a lot of

1050
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: different things, like what about changing to a changing room

1051
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: in a department store and I can't stay, I won't

1052
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: go anywhere. No, I won't go anywhere. Now. I would

1053
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: rather buy stuff and and not fit and have to

1054
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: go back I just order everything online, and you said, hey, yeah,

1055
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: isn't that crazy. It's so crazy, and it's so crazy

1056
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: that I put it together it's all right, or mentioned

1057
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: it to me that he had it too. I never

1058
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: put it together. I just assumed it was because I

1059
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: am so type A that almost everything in my life

1060
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: has a very much like why can't we do this

1061
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: any faster? I'm a real fun person to be around,

1062
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: and you are so changing close. It's like, and yeah,

1063
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: I just realized, like I'm sure we're going to discover

1064
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: more of these kinds of things as we talk about this.

1065
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: But I I have such anxiety about changing well, and

1066
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: you don't. You had a hooded vest and a hooded

1067
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: shirt and a T shirt you had to take off

1068
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: and possibly change your jeans and then put on new

1069
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: three It's also everything's new, like all the close your

1070
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: iron and ironed and stiff, and there was nothing like,

1071
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: oh these are my old jeans that I warned forever.

1072
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: And I remember Ben Ben and I got yelled at

1073
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: the first season because we didn't hang up our clothes.

1074
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: So because we just would we would run into the

1075
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: change we'd rip off our whatever out and grab the

1076
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: next one. Off the hangers, and I remember the wardrobe

1077
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: department being like, no, no, no, no, we're not your

1078
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: mom's exactly. You're done with it. And so we also

1079
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: not only did we have to rush taking off our clothes,

1080
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: we had to then hang them up on hangars. So,

1081
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole process is just it makes my

1082
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: heart wardrobe hate. I think it's part of the reason

1083
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: why I've never been I wish I was. I wish

1084
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: I had good style, like I wish I had a

1085
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: good fashion sense, but I think I I so stay

1086
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: away from it. I also feel like it hindered me

1087
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: ever knowing what my own style really is because people

1088
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: are dressing people were dressing me, and so I didn't know,

1089
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: this is your style. Yeah, here's my style this week,

1090
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: and I you know, now the only thing I know

1091
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: is like, oh, I'm self conscious about this part of

1092
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: my body. So I don't wear this, Like I don't

1093
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: wear cap sleeves. I'm built like a linebacker, and so

1094
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: I anything that is like cute and feminine up top,

1095
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: I put it on, and like, I do not like it.

1096
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: So like I know that I know the stuff that

1097
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: like I'm built like a linebacker, don't like to wear

1098
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: caps sleeves, but I otherwise as far as like, well,

1099
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: what kind of style do you like? I'm like, show

1100
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: me some things. I don't know. We didn't figure it

1101
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: out till my mid thirties though that Daniel very nicely

1102
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: was like, hey, we're gonna be doing all this list

1103
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: and I used this lady would you want her number?

1104
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: Like it's probably a good ideas. She's awesome, and again

1105
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: you just don't have to think about anything, but it

1106
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: is changing this and changing that, and then and then

1107
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: I was taking pictures of it, like to send to

1108
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: her to Nathans, and it was just like taking polaroids.

1109
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: When you get it was so like, alright, alright, we

1110
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: can we can move on. We're all I'm sweating, big breath, everybody,

1111
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: deep breath, and let's change your shirt. Let's get to

1112
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: this living room series. Okay, So well we should finish

1113
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: the scene, which is I walk outside, go ahead, take

1114
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: the test, because I figured out that it's going to

1115
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: resolve this whole problem exactly. They just they're gonna, if

1116
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna make you take another one, take this one, honestly,

1117
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: and they'll see that your average. Yes, Okay, so we're

1118
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: in the living room and Jane Carr, who is playing Ms.

1119
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: Bertram from MENSA. She's so funny. She's talking to Alan

1120
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: and Amy in the living room while Corey is taking

1121
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: the i Q test right behind them, which doesn't seem

1122
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: like conducive to good test taking or whatever. Um. She

1123
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: asks Morgan a question to see if she also may

1124
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: be a genius since Corey's a genius, and Morgan answers,

1125
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: uh biggest laugh of the show for Indie, And it

1126
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: was actually pretty pretty funny and she nailed. I mean,

1127
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: obviously Indie doesn't understand. He just loved hearing the word

1128
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: booker a little girl's mouth and seeing that an upset

1129
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: an old lady was just hysteric. Both of you come

1130
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: up with your answer to what her analogy actually was.

1131
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: Flower what what what? Because she says Oak is to

1132
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: elm as Dave easy is to Flower. No, I would

1133
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: just name another Flower Roads, right, I would have said.

1134
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: That was the first thing I went through my head,

1135
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: was like, what would I have you did not pass

1136
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: the IQ, Thank you you can go. I was fascinated

1137
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: by the class positioning of the Matthews family in this scene.

1138
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: I've never thought about, you know, like where like how

1139
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: upper class or lower class, but there's this idea like

1140
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: she's the snob judging them and being a tradesman, remember,

1141
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: And it was so interesting. It felt very um uh

1142
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: Rosanne is you know, like like in the Night, I

1143
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: feel like nowadays, I don't, I don't know. It was

1144
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: just interesting to consider, like, all right, we don't. I

1145
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: guess they're middle class, but they're not, like he works

1146
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: in a grocery store. Like they're being judged basically. And

1147
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: I found that interesting that like the show was positioning

1148
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: the Matthews, you know, as opposed to like the Cosby Show,

1149
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: where they did have money and they just kind of

1150
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: never talked about it. They never think about who their

1151
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: neighbor is. Their neighbor is a public school teacher, so

1152
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: they very much are in a probably i'd say it

1153
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't be lower middle class but middle class family. Pretty

1154
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: big house, yeah, yeah, I mean it's a it's a

1155
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: sitcom big house kind of thing. But again, that's your

1156
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: teacher is I remembers world. This drove me crazy, like

1157
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: the size of the apartment and you're just like, to

1158
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: live in New York there would be dollar a month apartment. Yeah, exactly.

1159
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: So it's interesting to me that that that that at

1160
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: this stage there was a consideration of class and positioning

1161
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: the Matthews in the sort of middle class, but like

1162
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: maybe lower middle class, like straight middle class, like just

1163
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: I think somewhere between lower middle class and middle classes.

1164
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: That's what I think. That's absolutely kids. It's hard to

1165
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: be lower middle class when you've got three kids. Yeah,

1166
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: but so Allan's he owns the grocery manager of the

1167
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: largest grocery store. I'm going to keep an eye on

1168
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: this because I'm curiously especially as we get it to

1169
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: the later seasons, like how because he ends up taking

1170
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: on the outdoor store their campings. I also don't remember.

1171
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: And we'll get into this. I'm sure we'll see it,

1172
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: and you know, there's gonna be moments where like, oh man,

1173
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: I completely forgot about that. But it's gonna be like

1174
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: do they talk about how many cars they have? They

1175
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: have one card? Did they share cars? There's that convertible

1176
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: that we all right, and we've got the grade sixty

1177
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: five Mustang coming up? Those credits. Why do we all

1178
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: remember shooting those credits so well? Because it was also

1179
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: because Ryder left halfway through and so some of the

1180
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: shots it's like he's supposed to be hidden behind the

1181
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: door when actually he's on a plane to like you know,

1182
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: macau or wherever the hell he's going going. I don't

1183
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: remember just going home, yeah, but you were like no,

1184
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. We're halfway through this, okay. But we also

1185
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: just remember those days because they were special, you know,

1186
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: whenever we were doing something differently crumps or something like

1187
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: that stupid t J if hey, we should watch one

1188
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: of those. Can we get ahold of anywhere? I'm sure

1189
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: they can, all right, listeners, if you know how to

1190
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: get ahold of t G. I I think if you

1191
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: go there's an Instagram page that's like, yeah, where they

1192
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: have somebody's uploaded them too, because there's one I saw.

1193
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm walking around the set with a video camera and

1194
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm videotaping like interviews with you guys, and at one

1195
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: point I'm like behind, hey, Danielle, who's texting you? And

1196
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: you're like, none of your business will Like you've got

1197
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: this giant page er that's like this big you know

1198
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So you see those things like

1199
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: a lot of funny it's like who it wasn't even

1200
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: texting like who's who's beating you? So yeah, you get

1201
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Page your code was the best,

1202
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: um J. Carr was awesome, goes for the record. Corey

1203
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: hands the test in um ms Bertramp says it takes

1204
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: most students over an hour to take the test. She

1205
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: starts to grade the test and she says, wow, his

1206
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: like you is that of an average sixth grader, And

1207
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: then she seems like, you know, did you really think

1208
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: you were going to get away with it? Like everyone's

1209
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: in on it, everyone knows. Ms. Bertramp says that actually

1210
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: it's not that he cheated before, he's cheating this time.

1211
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: He's a real genius, but he's pretending to fail so

1212
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to change. This was a clever moment

1213
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: because you said you're waiting for them to reveal you know, everything,

1214
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: so you're just waiting. So adding this little extra wrink

1215
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: I thought was clever. I thought so too. It's actually

1216
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: very cute. I didn't see it coming. So then Corey

1217
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: confesses to his parents he found the answers. They figured out,

1218
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: but they were waiting for him to fest up. Morgan

1219
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: walks in again with her zombie costume, on. Miss Bertram

1220
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: walks out annoyed and Corey does end up getting grounded,

1221
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: but they let it start the day after. My parents

1222
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: never did that. This is what you're grounded. You're grounded,

1223
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: you're missing the school dance. I was grounded once right

1224
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: before school dance. What you do? Do you remember? I

1225
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: was smoking? I started smoking at How can you smoke

1226
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: at such a young age? That is horrified smoker? By

1227
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: like twelve? I don't remember that. I remember actually remember. Yeah,

1228
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: we might have smoked together a couple of times back

1229
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: in the day. I thought you were older than I

1230
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: thought you were, like I was like fifteen, fifteen, somewhere

1231
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: between fifteen and sixteen. Well did you give her a cigarette? No?

1232
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: We were you know, you break you? How are you?

1233
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: It's the problem, It's it's time. Martini homes Total told

1234
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: me that teacher exactly. Well, my mom, my mom had said, so,

1235
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: my mom is very you know, my parents were very involved,

1236
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: and they were my mom. Nothing got past my mom.

1237
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: And smoking is smelly, really really smelly gloves. I mean,

1238
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: I learned eventually, but at first I was just probably thinking, well,

1239
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: it's been hours, how on earth could I possibly smell?

1240
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: My mom? Suspected. She talked to David Combs and she said,

1241
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: I want you to watch her like a hawk. And

1242
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: David then saw me smoking and called my mom and

1243
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: my mom I got home that day and from work,

1244
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: and my mom said, hey, how you know, how is

1245
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: your day? And I said my day is fine. She goes, Okay,

1246
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: dump your purse out, and I said, huh, because he

1247
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: had dump your pers out right here on the counter.

1248
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: And I was like okay. And in my head I

1249
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: thought so smart that I put him in my car,

1250
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: or they weren't in my car, they were I must

1251
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: have I hid them somewhere souse. I wasn't driving yet,

1252
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: but they were hidden, and I thought, great, this I'm

1253
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go ahead and go along with this,

1254
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be in there. There was loose

1255
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: tobacco at the bottom of my purse and she's yeah,

1256
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: and so I dumped my purse act and I know

1257
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: you're smoking, and I was like, well, I wouldn't say

1258
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm smoking. Yes, I've had I have smoked, but I

1259
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: am not smoking like I'm not addicted. I'm not continuing

1260
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: to do it. And it was, you know, terrible, and

1261
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: I was in so much trouble and I was grounded

1262
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: starting that that moment. And so what it meant was

1263
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: that I could wake up in the morning, go to work,

1264
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: and then I had to come immediately home. And my

1265
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: I had a phone in my room and a TV

1266
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: in my room and my big CD player, you know,

1267
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: my six disc CD player, and everything got ripped out

1268
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: of my room. So no TV in my room, no

1269
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: phone in my room, no CD player in my room.

1270
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: I was allowed to study, read and go to work

1271
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: and that was it. And I was our vice versa

1272
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: at Calabasas High School or um. Yeah, my vice versa

1273
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: dance was coming up and I had a boyfriend and

1274
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: we were supposed to go. And my mom was a

1275
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: real stickler about grounding as you should be, especially with

1276
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: something as terrible for you was smoking. I wish it

1277
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: had um, I wish I had listened. Uh. I never

1278
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: got grounded as a kid. That was not like I

1279
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: got ground occation and nothing would. Like when you get grounded, man,

1280
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,479
Speaker 1: it makes you want to have a smoke. I'm gonna

1281
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: be honest with you. It's like smoke. Like sitting there grounded,

1282
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: you're thirteen, and you're like, oh, I need a smooth

1283
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: one right now. It's true, but it's terrible. Oh my gosh.

1284
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: You did not get grounded, but you also had a

1285
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: lot of freedom, so much freedom. Yeah, it's kind of

1286
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: unusual in retrospect, but yeah, but I got in. I

1287
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: got sent to my room when I was little. Definitely

1288
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: did that. But then, you know, I also wasn't that

1289
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: much of a trouble I was. I think my parents

1290
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: kind of knew that, Like I was an okay kid,

1291
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, Um, the first time I smoked pot, I

1292
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: came clean to them because it was an awful experience

1293
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: and I was very young, and then I was like, yeah,

1294
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not drinking, I'm not smoking, I'm

1295
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: not doing any drugs. And I was like that until

1296
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: I was about seven, sixteen or seventeen. Is the first

1297
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: time I ever tried alcohol, And like, yeah, I was saying,

1298
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: I didn't start drinking until I was like so when

1299
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: we were on the show, I was like super clean cut.

1300
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: I was like Mr. Straight edge. Yeah yeah, and so

1301
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: I think my parents just let me. Yeah that the

1302
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: start you were Yeah, I was many seasons in but anyway, Okay,

1303
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: that's why I got in trouble and got grounded. Um,

1304
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: so I thought I thought that was really I'm not

1305
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: sure why they did it, to be honest, Why would

1306
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: they let him start the day after Halloween because so

1307
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: we can have that final scene. It is kind of weird,

1308
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: But so there's a Michael Jacobs when we were then

1309
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: doing very Quickly, we were then doing Girl Meets World.

1310
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: Michael and I got into an argument on the set

1311
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: about my script because, um, the script that I had

1312
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: originally written, Um, Riley gets caught lying and I had

1313
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: repercussions for getting caught lying where she got ground And

1314
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: he's like, now cut all that out, and like, well,

1315
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 1: don't you want coin to pay it to at least

1316
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: vocalize in some way shape or formed that she shouldn't

1317
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: be lying. And he's like, no, it's not necessary. And

1318
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: we literally got in a fight to the point where

1319
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: we he brought in the ABC executive and he's like,

1320
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: he wants it to be where we're actually grounding the

1321
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: kid afterwards, and I don't think it's necessary, and I

1322
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 1: know you're gonna like side with me, and he pulled

1323
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: it out of the script. So the idea of being

1324
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: grounded like I had that in there like no, you

1325
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: got caught lying, you got caught with a big lie.

1326
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: There's repercussions to that, and Michael specifically went out of

1327
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: his way to make sure that wasn't in the script.

1328
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: So I don't know what that is with the kind

1329
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: of letting the kid slide, But it was in this

1330
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: episode two where it's like, we're gonna we're gonna take

1331
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: some stuff away from you, but not the really fun

1332
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: There's a really fun day coming up, but you did

1333
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: a really bad thing, so have that fun and then

1334
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: and then when nothing's going on, will ground you? Is

1335
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: it just to keep it? I mean, I mean, I

1336
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: really do think it was just the legist I mean

1337
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: that last scene. But I also wondered, based on what

1338
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: you're saying, well, like, is there something too uh having

1339
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: to not have a downer of an ending for kids

1340
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: watching the show? Maybe like that that you get in

1341
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: trouble and you you pay the consequences, but you also

1342
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: can still be a kid and like, you know, like

1343
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: quite possibly making your audience feel shame. It's like, probably

1344
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: not the best way to end an episode. But at

1345
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: the same time, there's also that this episode, along with

1346
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: I mean more than any episode we've seen so far

1347
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: is about consequence. Yes, so, I mean there's the idea

1348
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: that it's like, you're you did this, now this is

1349
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: going to happen to you, but you can still go

1350
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: on the roller coaster is a bit like, oh okay, yeah,

1351
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: it kind of bumped me, but but you're right right.

1352
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: The logical, actual technicality thing for this episode is when

1353
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: we need to have a scene with Halloween costumes to

1354
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: end the show. So, um, Mr Finie, we're in Mr

1355
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: Finie's classroo Corey walks up to Foenie's desk with his

1356
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: clown knows uh. He said he thought he had to

1357
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: be a genius in order to earn Mr Feenie's respect,

1358
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: and Phoenie says that all his students have to do

1359
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: to earn his respect is try their hardest, lovely, lovely

1360
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: life lesson. And then we're back in the living room.

1361
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: Morgan answers the door for trigger treaters. She gives them

1362
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: each one piece of candy and then gives two for herself. Cute.

1363
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: I thought it's very cute. Mr Feenie walks up behind

1364
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: them with rulers and asks Morgan if he can have

1365
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: some of the Matthews candy because his ruler treats are

1366
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: not going over very well. That's so funny. So this

1367
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: is actually I really liked this this beat with Phoenie

1368
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: because it's one of the few times where Poenie makes

1369
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: a big mistake and like you get to see Bill rattled,

1370
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like that never happened

1371
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: on our show. I mean, or maybe I don't remember

1372
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: it that much. So this is a great comedic moment

1373
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: for Bill to play that sort of like I don't know,

1374
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: just he's not in charge, he's not completely confident, he's

1375
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: not completely cool. I loved this scene. But what does

1376
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: he normally give out on Halloween? This isn't his first

1377
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: Halloween normally giving out and and normally those go over well,

1378
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't know either. Yeah, but it's also so there's

1379
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: something really interesting about the the balance between Mr Finie

1380
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: knowing kids so well in the classroom and knowing them

1381
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: not at all out of the classroom. Yeah, there's something

1382
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: kind of cool about that where it's like I know

1383
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: exactly how to handle kids in that one room. Well,

1384
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: I also think outside of it, I don't. I think

1385
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: it's great that we see that We're getting to see

1386
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: Mr Feinie the person versus Mr Feinie the teacher. The

1387
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: more we have these moments, because up until this point,

1388
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: all of the moments of Foenie in the backyard are

1389
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: still well, let me address your teacher. Hi, George, I

1390
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: have a question help me with My son failed the test.

1391
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: He's still playing the teacher role as opposed to this

1392
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: is a peer to peer, neighbored and neighbor. I need

1393
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: to borrow from borrowing a cup of sugar from my neighbor.

1394
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: Is that why you think is would that be the

1395
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: rationale then for having him literally walk around to the

1396
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: front of the house instead of just over there, instead

1397
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: of just well, I mean again, it's like you just

1398
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: walk out and you're right there, walked around the front

1399
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: of the hut. There is no gate of the fence,

1400
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: is there? They hopped over the Interesting, Yeah, I think

1401
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: they have actually add one. Yeah, and I don't think kids. Yeah,

1402
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: we would have needed to change the location then of

1403
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: the scene because kids are not coming in through the backyard,

1404
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, very yeah. Interesting. And so what I

1405
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 1: remember about this filming this too is so that's actually

1406
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: Ben's voice, right, So while that is Dustin or Dusty.

1407
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: We found Dusty playing the part of the masked kid,

1408
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: mask kid. He did say those lines behind the mask,

1409
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: but then they had been record them, sure, so it

1410
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: could seem more obvious. I think that, well, that's the joke,

1411
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: is that it's supposed to be cool doing a voice,

1412
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: and that's what was exactly. It was actually very confusing

1413
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: to me because there was you are completely cut out

1414
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: of the shot for some reason. We see that three

1415
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: children walk up in Halloween costumes, you as Frankenstein, Corey,

1416
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: and then Dusty with the mask, and yeah, you get

1417
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: framed out of it for I don't know why, and

1418
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: I was confused as to who was talking. I was like,

1419
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: who is talking with these masks? Is it? Is it

1420
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 1: the character that's cut off? So to me it didn't

1421
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: land because it's also it sounds the way it was

1422
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: shot though, it was a little strange. It was a

1423
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: little strange. I'm not quite sure what was going on,

1424
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: or maybe there was maybe there were lines cut out

1425
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: of it. Maybe you did have stuff to say and

1426
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: it was too hard to show who was talking. I

1427
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: remember it being a scramble. I think maybe we were late.

1428
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: Last thing. I think we were really pressed for time,

1429
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: and I think it was like they grabbed Dusty and

1430
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: it was like last minute he got a speaking role,

1431
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: and then after he left they recorded Ben doing it.

1432
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: So it was like Dusty said the lines but then

1433
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: was taken out. His voice was taken out to yeah, James, James. Um, okay,

1434
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: that makes sense. So Phoene thinks it's Corey. He lifts

1435
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: up the kid's mask, revealing it is not Corey. Phoene

1436
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: walks away to go get d from Amy in the

1437
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: kitchen and Sewan and Corey are next to each other.

1438
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: They pull up their masks and we reveal there they are.

1439
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: After all, this is a cute episode. It was. It

1440
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: was a very cute episode. I think we're starting if there.

1441
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: The show is starting to find itself and we're slowly

1442
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: starting to find ourselves. Yeah, and I think it's this

1443
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: is the first real episode where I noticed that where

1444
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, okay, Corey and Shawn are a thing, right,

1445
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't look like I just found my lines, you know,

1446
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: five seconds before, um, we're getting there. I want to

1447
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 1: see more Topanga yet, I want to see more to Pango.

1448
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: I made an impact on Indie, did I? Yeah. I

1449
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: mean that's what I'm telling you. I think the show

1450
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: is working exactly as it's great. Yeah. Interesting. Alright, Well,

1451
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: our next episode is season one, episode seven. Grandma was

1452
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: a rolling stone, my first kiss, my first screen Russell,

1453
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: very Russell, just kiss. Yeah. Wow, this is this is

1454
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: what we got a lot to unpack in this next

1455
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: episode because I asked specifically for this episode, but not

1456
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: for the carry Russell thing, but to work with Bill.

1457
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: So this was the first time you see Eric and

1458
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: Feenie together again, and I specifically went to Michael and asked,

1459
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: is this a pizza scene. Yes, you're holding the pizza.

1460
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: I remember that run through. I remember this run through

1461
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: because it was like we all lost it and we

1462
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: could see I remember the whole we were just like,

1463
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: oh it works, the Phoenie. It was so good, and

1464
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: you holding a piece of pizza and you did it

1465
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: for the run through the eldest place of pizza, and

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Speaker 1: it was just so funny the way you were like.

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Speaker 1: I just remember vividly sitting there with the whole crew

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Speaker 1: and being like, oh, this is a whole new thing

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Speaker 1: for the show. It was fun and the amazing Rue McClanahan. Grandma, well,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it. I don't think I'm

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Speaker 1: in it, so I don't have any memory of it

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Speaker 1: at all. This is a great episode because if it's

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah my line, unless you're wearing a jacket,

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Speaker 1: that it's blah blah blah. Where I do with my hands?

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Speaker 1: J oh, where else you're gonna keep your smokes? Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. All right, So I'm really looking forward to

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Speaker 1: that one. Uh. This was a wonderful episode, and um yeah.

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Speaker 1: Meats World is an I heart podcast producer hosted by

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Speaker 1: Daniel Fisher, Wilford l and Righter Strong. Executive producers Jensen

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Speaker 1: Carpet and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production, Daniel Romo,

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