1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: If I am six forty, you're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app on 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: the radio from one till four, and then after four 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,079 Speaker 1: o'clock it's the Johnny Can on demand podcast, so you 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: can listen to whatever you miss. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, murder is an ugly thing, but when a 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: police officer gets murdered, it's a really really ugly thing. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: We have an opportunity now to speak to Kim Clinkinbroomer. 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: She's going to come on the show along with the 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: fiance of Deputy Ryan Clinkinbruomer, who was shot back on 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: September sixteenth. He was stopped at a red light outside 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: the Palmdale Sheriff station just thirty years old. A man 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: who family members say is paranoid schizophrenic by the name 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: of the Cat Neo Salazar, apparently drove up next to 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: Ryan's patrol car and shot him to death, and of course, 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: just days later came the news Melly County District Attorney 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: George Gascone he would not seek the death penalty in 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: the killing of the deputy. 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Even a cold blooded, intentional murder is not enough for 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: Gascon to do what the law says should be done. 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: These are the kinds of cases for the death penalty. 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: So Kim clicking Brummer is the mother, Brittany Lindsey is 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: the fiance, and let's get them on the line together. 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: Kim and lindsay, thank you for coming on with us, Brits. 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: Than you. 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Let's start by either one of you, obviously, both of 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: you tell our listeners about Ryan, because it's really important 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: that they know this man that was so important to you. 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: I guess I'll start because I'm mom. He was just 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 4: an honorable kid. He was very honest and trustworthy. He 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: knew from a very early age that law enforcement was 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: what he wanted to do. He's a fourth generation LA 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: deputy sheriff, and he wore that. 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 5: Badge from the day he got it with honor. He 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 5: was very proud of of the badge and very proud 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: of his profession, and he served the people of Palm 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: Dill with that pride. 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Did he talk much about the danger of his job. 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 5: He did. He knew that. He knew that every day 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 5: he he put that badge on, there was that chance 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 5: that something could go wrong. But every day he put 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 5: it on proudly and he went to work proudly. It's 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 5: a risk we all that every law enforcement officer takes. 44 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: And really liked you really liked his job. Huh. 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 5: He loved his job. He loved his job, and his 46 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 5: fiance can tell you how much he loved his job. 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: Brittany Britain, it's talk to Brittany about about Ryan. Tell 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: us more. 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: He's just the most caring, thoughtful person that you'd ever meet. 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: He just always wanted to take care of one again, 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: like she said, loved his job. He went to work 52 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: every day with a smile on his face. 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 6: You know. 54 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: I would sit and pray every night, I come home safely, 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 3: you know, and he would just tell me, going to 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: be okay, Like you know, this is what I signed 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: on to do and I love doing it. And just 58 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: he was just excited to go to work every day. 59 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know anyone who is that happy 60 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: to go to work, and he did and he loved it. 61 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 7: He's just a very. 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Hard working person and just wanted to make sure that 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: I was taken care of. 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: You two must have had quite a life plan together, huh. 65 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 7: Yes, we did. You know, we talked about you know, 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 7: even not David before he went to work, like I 67 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 7: remember sitting in the kitchen him and we were talking 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 7: about how many people we were invite your wedding and 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 7: here David party and because we already had like a 70 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 7: semi picked out, was it going to meet a falling September? 71 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 7: And I already talked about kid the names like he 72 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 7: had a future planned and it was taken away. 73 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: Kim Uh, talk about how you feel about the state 74 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: that the whole region is in Los Angeles County with 75 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: what's going on, including Gascone's role here the criminal justice system, right, 76 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you are now, unfortunately one of 77 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: the victims, and that's a whole different perspective than the 78 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: rest of us, just a. 79 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 5: Totally different perspective. And it's you know, I did some 80 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: I to say I didn't do soul searching for the 81 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 5: first twenty four hours, because I've always been taught that 82 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: you give yourself that twenty four hour rule before you 83 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 5: try to make comments. But after that, I just want 84 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 5: to make it clear that we were not front loaded 85 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 5: to the charges that were going to be filed. We 86 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 5: found out when the nation found out. Nobody told us 87 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: ahead of time, so we stood in as much shock 88 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 5: as the world did. To hear the charges and to 89 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 5: hear the DA say that if I thought Ryan it 90 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 5: would bring Ryan back, I would seek the death penalty. Well, 91 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 5: we're not stupid, We're all human beings, and we know 92 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 5: that Ryan's not coming back. But the state of California 93 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 5: voted for the death penalty, and for two individuals to 94 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 5: take the death penalty off the table when the rest 95 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 5: of us voted for it is ridiculous. And I'm not 96 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 5: going on political party, and I don't care if you're 97 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 5: a Democrat or Republican. The people of Los Angeles and 98 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 5: the people of the state of California need to open 99 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 5: their eyes and start filling in the right bubbles for 100 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 5: people that are going to protect victims of crimes. We 101 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 5: now have a cashless bail in a lot of LA County. 102 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 5: So you're telling these criminals you do what you want, 103 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 5: You're going to get a ticket and you get to 104 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 5: go home. What is society coming to? And I have 105 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 5: to bury my son in four days, and I as 106 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: a taxpayer and paying for the man who killed my son. 107 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: Every day he sits in jail, and now he's getting 108 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 5: his medicine for free. So his parents are sitting there 109 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: doing whatever they want to do. And they have their 110 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 5: son and I don't have mine, and that's okay. He 111 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 5: made a choice. He chose to pull that trigger on 112 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 5: that gun and take my son's life. There needs to 113 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 5: be consequences. 114 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, A majority of voters in California have voted for 115 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: the death penalty and has reaffirmed it several times, knowing 116 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: that the death penalty doesn't bring the victims back. So 117 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: it's a completely phony issue. Nobody debates that issue. 118 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: Oh, it's insulting Kim that he said what he said 119 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: about it wouldn't bring your son back. It's just a 120 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: ridiculous cliche from the past that we hear over and 121 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: over again from these. 122 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Types, almost almost really shaming you. It's like, why are 123 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: you bringing this up. We're not going to bring him back. 124 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 5: I was disgusted. I'm not bringing my son back. 125 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: Have you been following this DA and his wrecking of 126 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: the criminal justice system in La County or is this 127 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: something that you were just aware of after all this. 128 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 5: No, obviously coming from a law enforcement family, you know 129 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 5: what's happening. I know what's happening. It's not right, but 130 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: it started back you know, when he was working with Newsom, 131 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 5: and Newsom doesn't believe in it. And if you looked 132 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 5: on the I believe it was the KTOA app they 133 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: had Newsom quoting. There was a big quote on how 134 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 5: he doesn't believe that the death penalty he solves anything. 135 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: He doesn't believe it's a irreparable act. Well, what this 136 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: gentleman did to my family is an irreparable act. 137 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: Can you both hang on? 138 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 5: I don't have anymore. 139 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: Can you both hang on for another segment? 140 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: Sure? 141 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. That's Kim Clinkinbroomer. She is the mother 142 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: of La County Shriff's Deputy Ryan Clinkinbroomer, who was shot 143 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: to death just over two weeks ago, stopped in his 144 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: patrol car to red light just outside the Palmdale's Shriff station. 145 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: Also with us is Ryan's fiance, Brittany Lindsey. We'll talk 146 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 2: more to them when we come back. But you hear 147 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: Kim sounding off about the decision not to pursue the 148 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: death penalty against Ryan's killer. Johnny Ken k I AM 149 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: six forty Live Everywhere iHeartRadio app. 150 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 8: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 151 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 8: AM six forty. 152 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: We are talking with Kim Clinkin Broomer. Her son, Ryan Clinkinbroomer, 153 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: was an La County Sheriff's deputy who was shot and 154 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: killed when he was stopped at a red light just 155 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: outside Palmdale sheriff station back on the sixteenth of September. 156 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: We also have on his fiance, Brittany Lindsay, and they're 157 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: talking about Ryan and we've been talking about George Gascone 158 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: announcing publicly that there would be no death penalty, and Lindsey, 159 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Brittany if I wanted to get your reaction 160 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: we just heard from from Kim to Gascone and his 161 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: no death penalty declaration. 162 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I was in shock when he made 163 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 6: that statement. I mean, am I surprised, Not really, But 164 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 6: you know, at the end of the day, this guy, 165 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 6: I mean, yes, you can blame mental health, and you know, 166 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: anyone who commits a crime at this point we can 167 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 6: say some form of mental health. But at the end 168 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 6: of the day, he's still made a choice to drive 169 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 6: over and to shoot my fiance in the head, an ugly, 170 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 6: ugly way to go out. So I think that the 171 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 6: death penalty shouldn't even be a question, you know, this 172 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 6: guy's meds weren't being monitored. So if she was really 173 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 6: severely you know that mental, he should have been taking meds. 174 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 6: And you know, I just want to also make a 175 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 6: statement that my fiance was not doing anything wrong at 176 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 6: the time. He wasn't being reckless. He was simply sitting 177 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 6: in his car instantly and his life was taken away 178 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 6: from him. So I think the death penalty should be 179 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 6: one hundred percent justice for our family. 180 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: Let me ask both of you, because now that we 181 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: know that mental illness may enter into this, we may 182 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: have a situation where you know, he's going to plead 183 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: some form of insanity, supposedly his powers. It's schizophrenic, the 184 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: killer of Ryan, and he could end up just in 185 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: state hospitals. He could be out. He's only in his twenties. 186 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: He could be out in short order. The way they 187 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: do things when it comes to holding people in mental institutions, Kim, 188 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: how do you feel about that. 189 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 5: It's disgusting to even think that it's I can't even 190 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: sathom that this individual could be back on the streets 191 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 5: and that's on the table. I mean, it's very true 192 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: because as mister Gascon said, we are going to try 193 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 5: to seek life in prison without parole. We're going to try. 194 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you probably know where life in prison without 195 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: parole is going these days. Gascon himself has talked about 196 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: how fifteen years should be enough for any crime. They 197 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: don't really want people to stay in prison for the 198 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: rest of their lives. 199 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 5: And that's disgusting. And again, I will go back to 200 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 5: it's not a political party. We need to go back 201 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 5: to what's right and what's wrong. And when you commit 202 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 5: a crime, you've made a choice. I don't care if 203 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: the crime is petty theft, burglary, assault, or murder. You 204 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 5: made a choice. You need to pay the price for 205 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: that choice. And I know mental health is they're saying 206 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 5: he was schizophrenic, Well then that goes on to the 207 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 5: parents too. If you weren't giving him as meds or 208 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 5: how was their guns in the house, that's a whole 209 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 5: other issue. 210 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the parents are very culpable in all this because 211 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't getting his meds and there were guns in 212 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: the house and all that's inexcusable. And I really don't 213 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: think anyone should put up with these excuses anymore from 214 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: the family members. 215 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 5: No, but we shouldn't. We shouldn't even have to. But 216 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 5: with charges like that being given, and they're enabling the 217 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 5: parents to say that, you know, they said that they tried. 218 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 5: I think the mom said that she tried to reach 219 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 5: out to the sheriff's department to help her help her 220 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 5: son and they didn't do anything. Well, nobody helps me 221 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 5: raise my son, nobody helps me raise my other kids. 222 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 5: I have two boys that are law enforcement officers. They 223 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 5: didn't help me raise my kids. I raised my children. 224 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 5: Maybe she should have done more to raise her child. 225 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 5: It's not anybody's fault. We have to stop deflecting and 226 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 5: take responsibility. 227 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's more to the story. Because very few paradid 228 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: schizophrenics shoot cops. Dad, So this is being used as 229 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: a cover to excuse really evil behavior. 230 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, it's being enabled, and we have to stop 231 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 5: letting our politicians and our people in office use excuses 232 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 5: for behavior. 233 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 6: You don't just wake up one morning and decide to 234 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 6: shoot someone and kill them. That's planning, that's you know, 235 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 6: there's technique in that. 236 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: And Kim, going back to something you said at the 237 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: beginning of the interview, LA County DA's office did not 238 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: reach out to you to talk about the charges against 239 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: the murder of your son. 240 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 5: Not one time. We were moving my son and her 241 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 5: fiance from the coroner's office to the mortuary, we were 242 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 5: asked if we would attend the press conference, and we 243 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 5: said yes, And we were never told a single thing 244 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 5: prior to standing on that stage with the district attorney. 245 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: You were blindsided when he said we weren't that he 246 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: wasn't going to seek the death penalty. He had no 247 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: idea that was coming, completely, no idea. 248 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: This da is not about victims. No, he's not about victims. 249 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 5: Now. 250 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't care. 251 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 5: About you, if anything, I exactly. He doesn't care about 252 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: our family. He doesn't care about the fiance that my 253 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 5: son had to leave behind. And the only time I've 254 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 5: seen a bigger smile on my son's face than receiving 255 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: and putting on his badge for the very first time 256 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 5: was when he got down on one knee and proposed 257 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 5: to her. And for that to be taken away and 258 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 5: you tell me that his life doesn't matter is absolutely ridiculous. 259 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: And people in the state of California, and especially in 260 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: Los Angeles County need to wise up. When that ballot 261 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 5: comes out, they need to fill in a different bubble 262 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: because this man is not helping any of us. If 263 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 5: you're a small business owner and you get broken into, 264 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 5: he's not going to help you. He's going to aid 265 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: the people that break in. He doesn't care about victims. 266 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 5: He needs to go be a public defender somewhere. He 267 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 5: could not hold the office that he holds, and he's. 268 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: Got lots of challengers. Our condolences, and you said services 269 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: for your son or later this week. 270 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: Services are Thursday at nine thirty at the cathedral where 271 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 5: he's gonna go out with honor, every honor that he deserves. 272 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's gonna be a huge turnout. Our condolences. 273 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: Kim Clinkinbroomer and Lindsey and Britney lindsay, thank you both 274 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: for coming on, and we appreciate it. 275 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: You can be sure that virtually everybody in our audience 276 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: feels feels your pain very strongly, and they're gonna be 277 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: thinking of how Shreek. 278 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you all. 279 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: Right, all right, thank you for coming on. More Coming up, 280 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: John and Ken Show, KF I am six forty. We're 281 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 282 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 8: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 283 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 8: AM six forty. 284 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: We're on the radio from one until four, then after 285 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: four o'clock. Whatever you missed John and Ken on demand 286 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: the podcast and if you're just tuning in you missed 287 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: we had Kim Click and Broomer and Britney Lindsay on 288 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: the mother and fiance of the sh Sheriff's deputy in 289 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: La County, Ryan Clinkinbroomer, who was shot and killed executed. 290 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: And just to follow up on this, the Association for 291 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Deputy Sheriffs, the organization is known as A Lads. 292 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: They have a fundraiser going on online to raise money 293 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: for the Clinkin Brmer family. It's the A Lads Cares Foundation, 294 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: and all of the money will go directly to benefit 295 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: the family of Deputy Ryan Clinkinbroomer. If you go to 296 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: the John and Ken page on KFI AM six forty 297 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: dot com, you'll follow a series of links and it'll 298 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: take you to a page where you can donate whatever 299 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: amount you wish. And so if you would do that 300 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: to help the Clinkin Burmers out, that would be greatly 301 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: appreciated from everybody here at the station. 302 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: Now we found out that services are going to be 303 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: Thursday for Deputy Ryan Clinkinbroom. 304 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: Just to follow up on something that Kim said. No, 305 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: I really really makes me nauseous. We've had too many 306 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: of these interviews, especially the last three years since Gascone 307 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: took over, and everyone, even police officers, are sitting ducks 308 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: to Gascone. There is just something just so morally wrong 309 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: that Gascone continues on every day, collecting a taxpayer paid 310 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: paycheck and fouling up people's lives unimaginable, unimaginably, so much death, 311 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: so much suffering, so much crime directly related to his 312 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: stupid policies. And I just can't believe we're sitting here, 313 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: and we sit here and we're stuck with him for 314 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: another year. He's done so much damage. He is such 315 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: a wretched, horrible human being. If he is a human being, 316 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he never fails to enrage every single time 317 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: he speaks publicly. Every time you walk away red in 318 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: the face, clenching your fist, pissed off off. I mean, 319 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: just read I just read the quotes again about how 320 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: he's not going to do the death penalty because it 321 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: won't bring Ryan Clinton rumor back. That's not the issue. 322 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's not and I hate him. I hate 323 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: all his assistants in the office. There all these public 324 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: defenders he brought in to dismantle the system. You people, 325 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: I hope there's a hell, because you're going to burn 326 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: a long time. There's You've created so much suffering and 327 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: so many tears, so much heartache, so much pain, so 328 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: much death, so much crime. None of you have any shame, 329 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: none of you care. You're all sociopaths of the worst sort. 330 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: And the one of the worst days in La County 331 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: history was the day he got elected. 332 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 5: YEP. 333 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty is when he took office with 334 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: his directives. We're gonna talk to one of his challengers 335 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: at three zero five, La County Deputy District Attorney John McKinney, 336 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 2: that's coming back on the show. We can certainly talk 337 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: to him about the no death penley for a cop killer, 338 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 2: but also about the no bail system which is now 339 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: an effect in Los Angeles County. 340 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: And this one even know a lot about that. And 341 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: this one comes from the LA County Judges. You think 342 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: the judges would protect us a little bit. No, the 343 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: La County Judges have unleashed a no bail policy for 344 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: a lot of daily crimes. 345 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: Wow, when I looked at up the judge that made 346 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: the initial decision, Lawrence Riff. 347 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: Lawrence Riff not. 348 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: Up for reelection till twenty twenty eight. 349 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: He got elected last year without any opponents. They didn't 350 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: even have a prim always do judges always do no 351 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: no primary, no general election. 352 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: He was ofitially appointed by Jerry Brown. That's how he 353 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 2: got in the job. But I guess he's won an 354 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: election or two all right now over the dipity do 355 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: announced over the weekend and again over the weekend is 356 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: the key here that he has vetoed the bill that 357 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 2: was going to give unemployment benefits to striking workers. There 358 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: were some that thought he might do this, particularly since 359 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: he's running for pres He cited in his veto message 360 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: that this would put a lot of pressure on the 361 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: state's unemployment money because we're in big debt to the 362 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 2: federal government already. 363 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: No, that unemployment fund is bankrupt. It's bankrupt oposedly twenty 364 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: billion in the red to the Feds, and we keep 365 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: borrowing more and more money from the federal government, and 366 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: they want to be paid back. They don't screw around, so. 367 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: We make interest payments on that debt. We have paid 368 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty two point seven million in interest 369 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: on the debt, and we have to make another three 370 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: hundred two million dollar interest payment this month on the 371 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: debt to the federal government for the unemployment money. No 372 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: more unemployment benefits added for anybody here. And if you 373 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: go on strike, that's what it means to go on strike. 374 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 2: You're willing to forego your pay, all right. So if 375 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: you voluntarily go on strike and forego your pay, you 376 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: shouldn't be expected. 377 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: You shouldn't expect the state government to bail you out. 378 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: You know, if it's that much of a problem, then 379 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: don't go on strike and accept the terrible offer and 380 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: or find another line of work. But good lord, you 381 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: can't have the state government bail you out when it's 382 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: already broke. 383 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: He also vetoed bill that would have given new protections 384 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: to domestic workers household workers basically that I think was 385 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: the first step to unionize them. But he rejected a 386 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: bill which with extended workplace safety protections like OSHA stuff 387 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: to domestic workers like housekeepers and nannies. This also upsets 388 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: some people. He did both these things. These veto messages 389 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: were announced over the week. 390 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: His wife probably didn't want to comply. You think they 391 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of help. Oh, I'm sure you think 392 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: she does. You think she's on her hands knee scrubbing 393 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: the floor. 394 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: All right, we got more coming up. Johnny kN KFI 395 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: A of the six forty. We're live everywhere iHeartRadio. 396 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 8: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 397 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 8: AM six forty. 398 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: I coming up after three, we're going to talk to 399 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: John McKinney again. He's an Elie County Deputy District Attorney 400 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: and he's running for George Gascon's job. He's gonna come on, 401 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: of course, and talk a lot about what took effect 402 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: yesterday in Los Angeles County. We're back to the days 403 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: of zero bail. And I remember when they put zero 404 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: bail in effect during the pandemic the first year there. 405 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: It was kind of ugly out there. There was still 406 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: a lot of crime going. Oh there was, Yeah, homicides 407 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: were raging. Remember that this is asides in Los Angeles. 408 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: This is not a complex formula. If there's no consequences, 409 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: you're gonna get a lot more crime. The more severe 410 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: the consequences, the less crime. That's the end of the debate. 411 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: You don't have to go and get a criminal justice 412 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: degree at some progressive university. They're lying, they're wrong, their 413 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: data is false. If you have consequences, it lowers crime. 414 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: Like that question you asked one time, who really spends 415 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: all their day upset and sympathetic to those who are 416 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: ritting in jail? 417 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: But apparently there are. They hate people in jail, They 418 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: hate people, you know. It's it's people who can make 419 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: money from that movement. I know that with all these 420 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: organizations they get, they get funded pretty heavily by by 421 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: all kinds of nuts. And I don't understand nobody normally 422 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: I know in my life, Like I don't know a 423 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: single person in my life that wants no consequences. In fact, now, 424 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: just about everybody I run into on the West Side, 425 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't care how liberal they say they are. There's 426 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: a lot of new, newly minted law and order citizens 427 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: on the West Side. 428 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: All right, So we'll talk about Nobel coming up after 429 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: the news at three o'clock. Well, one more note on 430 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 2: dipity do California's Governor Gavin Newsome, he didn't really waste 431 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: much time naming a replacement for Feinstein, and of course 432 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 2: he was caught up in the world of racial identity 433 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: politics when he announced, when it was rumored that Feinstein 434 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: would not finish her term, that he was going to 435 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: appoint a black woman to the seat. Then to go 436 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: back a moment, it's because Kamala Harris was a US 437 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: Senator from California. This is really ridiculous, but it's worth 438 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: going through because this is what we're dealing with. And 439 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: when she left, he appointed Alex Padilla, a male Latino. Ah, 440 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: there was an uproar that is a black female seat. 441 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: So the problem he had was that the black female 442 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: it's running for the Senate in Feinstein's seat is Barbara Lee, 443 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: a congresswoman from the Bay Area. But as people held 444 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: up their hands and said, if you do that, you're 445 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: going to give her the inside track on winning the 446 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: primary next to March So and Adam Schiff is running, 447 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: and Adam Schiff, he's a close buddy of Nancy Pelosi, 448 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: and you're related to Nancy Pelosi, so you better figure 449 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: out something else. So he decided on senator placeholder, and 450 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: everyone was like, well, who's that going to be? 451 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: Oprah? 452 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't Oprah, but he really hit the the 453 00:25:54,920 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: unbelievable one, two, three, four, five five fecta. Here he 454 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: announced somebody nobody's heard of lafonsa Butler. She's got this 455 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: going for her. She was the former leader of the 456 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: state's largest labor union, a partner at a political consulting firm, 457 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: and an advisor to Kamala Harris during her twenty twenty 458 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: presidential bid. Oh that went well, didn't it get She 459 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: ran for president and she's black and gay and a woman. Yes, 460 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: And she's the president of Emily's List, which is all 461 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: about how. 462 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: To get abortions right. She raises money for She just 463 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: scored on all the cars the scorecard there. 464 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 8: Didn't she. 465 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: Now she does not even live in California. She doesn't 466 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: live in California. Gavin Newsom couldn't find a qualified black 467 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: woman in California. And by the way, no no race, 468 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: no ethnicity, no gender has an absolute claim on a 469 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: Senate seat. For God's sake, of course it doesn't. Black 470 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: women are three and a half percent of the state 471 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: of California. There's no such thing as a female black 472 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: Senate seat. There's no such that's entirely made up nonsense, 473 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: Nor is it a male white seat. It's supposed to 474 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: be whoever gets elected. And so you pick somebody from 475 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Maryland and replacing Diane Feinstein right now, regardless of what 476 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: you think of her, she's going to go down as 477 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: one of the giants in the US Senate history and 478 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: to get replaced by the fundsa Butler from Maryland. 479 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's only for a year, right. 480 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but that's our representation. For a year. 481 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: A US senator is supposed to direct legislation or add 482 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: to legislation things that will benefit the state of California 483 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: that she represents. You know, there's a lot of funding 484 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: that goes on. For example, there's a more important there's 485 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: a lot of the whole racial figurehead that we have 486 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: to pick it racial identity politics. And that's you know 487 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: what that day's got to got to end, because that's 488 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: another thing that no normal people pays attention to. That's 489 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: racist picking somebody to be a senator because the skin 490 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: collar is the absolute definite definition of racism. Gavin Newsom's 491 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: act is racist, period, end of story. 492 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: The FONSA. Butler did live in California until at least 493 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: September of twenty twenty one. But then of course she 494 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: was tapped to head up that Emily's List. Yeah, it's like, well, 495 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: she moved to Maryland to be closer to Washington, d C. 496 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: Where she became president of Emily's List. She raises money 497 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: to facilitate more abortions. That's a good day. That's a 498 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: great career. 499 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: Huh. I mean, I'm by the way running Kemla Harris's 500 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: presidential campaign. That was one of the most incompetently run 501 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: campaigns anybody's ever seen. Kela Harris came out of the 502 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: gate with like a twenty twenty five percent of the vote. 503 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: She had thousands of people cheering for her in Oakland, 504 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: and by time she didn't make the first primary. By 505 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: the time she was done, she was at three percent. Yeah, 506 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: so you couldn't have had a worse campaign. And this 507 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: woman has never spent a day in office anywhere. As 508 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: far as I know, she doesn't know anything about the 509 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: internal workings of the Senate or the House, or even 510 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: the legislature or anything. It's like picking somebody on a 511 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: phone book if there were phone books. 512 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: People are making fun. So many people have moved down 513 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: to California under Gavenus that he's appointing one of them 514 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: to the US Senate. 515 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: By the way, one he's an incompetent boob, is he 516 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: not he He's a ridiculous, chilly, incompetent fool. He boxes 517 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: himself in with a ridiculous promise to nominate a black woman, 518 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: and then he searched the whole state and couldn't find one. 519 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: He had to go He had to go what three 520 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: thousand miles to find a black woman qualified for his 521 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Senate seat. 522 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: Probably he had to go that far to find someone 523 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: that was willing to take it under these circumstances, because 524 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: the anger was, we're no woman's going to be a placeholder. 525 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: So that's terrible, it's insulting. So so no man is 526 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: capable of being senator for a year. No white woman, 527 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: No Hispanic woman, no Asian woman, no not it's dady went. 528 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: We went for the trifecta. 529 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: You probably said to her, look, don't run for this 530 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: seat next year. All right, then you can have it 531 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: for a year and have fun, go crazy. 532 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: Well, nobody else who got appointed was probably gonna run anyway, 533 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: putting a tremendous amount of money to raise very quickly, 534 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: but that's why. 535 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: They wanted him to appoint that one that was running 536 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: a black woman. 537 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: This whole thing is a racist act. Can you imagine 538 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: a company putting an ad out in the paper for 539 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: a position and at the bottom it says black women 540 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: only may apply. 541 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it's even worse if they wrote like white 542 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: males only may apply. 543 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: That would be the Yeah, I know, but that would 544 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: be that would be civil rights charges. 545 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: Oh, it would be all over the place. 546 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 6: That would be. 547 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: That would be civil lawsuits. Yeah. So, I mean, this 548 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: guy is just a buffoon that apps loop buffoon Hi. 549 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: Coming up next, La County Deputy District Attorney John McKinney, 550 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: who's running for George Gascone's job, and he has a 551 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: few things to say about zero bail policy. 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