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Speaker 2: On this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Net's Dan Patrick Show,

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Speaker 2: We'll check in with the Eagles. What's wrong with the

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Speaker 2: Eagles sloppy sloppy game last night? And Jalen hurts he

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Speaker 2: cost the Eagles in a big way. You have four interceptions,

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Speaker 2: Reggie Miller a little bit later on and the possibility

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Speaker 2: that Philip rivers will not only be on the Colts

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Speaker 2: roster this weekend, but on the field as the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Starter in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Albert Breer the Monday Morning quarterback about

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Speaker 2: that possibility. The forty four year old Philip Rivers, who

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Speaker 2: I don't think is played in five years, but that

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Speaker 2: is a desperate team the Colts right now. Poll questions

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Speaker 2: in the first hour were really good, spicy there. You

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Speaker 2: want to clean up the mess there out Seaton and

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Speaker 2: we move on to hour two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Philip Rivers coming back to quarterback the Colts is

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Speaker 4: a great idea or a terrible idea right now. Seventy

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Speaker 4: three percent have that as a terrible idea. That is

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Speaker 4: the correct answer there. And man, they're in trouble. Colts, Chiefs, Eagles, Ravens.

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Speaker 4: It is in that order. Colts, Chiefs, Eagles, Ravens.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was a feel good story. It doesn't feel so

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Speaker 2: good now with the Colts. They started out seven to

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Speaker 2: one and with the injuries to their quarterbacks with Danny Dimes,

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Speaker 2: Riley Leonard came in former Notre Dame quarterback. He's banged

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Speaker 2: up a little bit, and they play Seattle in Seattle

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Speaker 2: coming up this weekend watching last night, the Chargers defense

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Speaker 2: is what stood out to me. It's really good and

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Speaker 2: just asked Jalen Hurts with four interceptions. Here is Hurts

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Speaker 2: after the game talking about the interception in overtime.

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Speaker 6: I knew it was going to be a tight window throw.

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Speaker 6: I'd have to watch the film to see see it

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Speaker 6: from the eyes of film's point of view. Awtime, it's

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Speaker 6: it's a play that I didn't make. He got to

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Speaker 6: handle the ball.

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Speaker 3: That's a play that we've made.

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Speaker 6: A million times in that scenario versus a cloud corner,

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Speaker 6: and I didn't make that play this time around.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how we're gonna view Jalen Hurts when

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Speaker 2: his career is over, because it could be one of

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Speaker 2: those careers that's similar to Eli Manning, that he might

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Speaker 3: But the regular season numbers are like.

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Speaker 2: Eh okay, and it feels like defenses are saying, let's

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Speaker 2: see if you can beat us.

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Speaker 3: And you would think.

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Speaker 2: With those two receivers in that tight end, he would

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Speaker 2: be able to beat you. But the jury is still out,

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Speaker 2: at least myself my opinion. As much as I like

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Speaker 2: him in a big game and He's shown that he

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Speaker 2: can play in a big game. Both those Super Bowls

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Speaker 2: he played really, really well. It's just there are times

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Speaker 2: when you go, what's missing here. I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: a good pocket passer, a consistent one, but I do

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Speaker 2: think he can come up with big plays and his

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Speaker 2: At the goal line, he's really good the tush push.

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Speaker 2: You know, the moment is rarely too big for him.

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Speaker 2: But that's why I watch South. Palantonio covers the Eagles

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Speaker 2: among the other teams in the NFL, but he's stationed

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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia and get his thoughts on what is missing

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Speaker 2: with this team? How dangerous can they still be in

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Speaker 2: the NFC playoff? Picture all right eight seven to seven

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Speaker 2: three DP show operators sitting by to take your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame as a press conference in two hours from

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Speaker 2: now based off what happened yesterday, the fallout from that,

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Speaker 2: it feels like something is coming and that was almost

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Speaker 2: Is this we're taking our balls in going home from

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Speaker 2: felt like permanent damage. Permanent damage was used yesterday by

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Speaker 2: Pete Bovaqua, their athletic director. That sounds like the point

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Speaker 2: of no return. I am still waiting to get more

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Speaker 2: information on what exactly was the acc portion of the

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Speaker 2: College Football Playoff Committee arguing for and against with their

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Speaker 2: have been out of the playoff picture.

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Speaker 3: But Miami is still in over Notre Dame. And I

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Speaker 3: think that's where.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say it one more time so people

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Speaker 2: understand if this was reversed. Just imagine the outcry if

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Speaker 2: Miami was ranked in front of Notre Dame for five

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Speaker 2: weeks and nothing changed, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff Committee says, oh, we put Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame in front of Miami. How would you have reacted?

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Speaker 2: So those of you said, oh, you gave him a

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Speaker 2: free pass. You know, part of being an interviewer is

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Speaker 2: to give somebody an opportunity to speak because the more

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Speaker 2: you talk, the more likely I'm going to get some

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Speaker 2: information here. I'm going to get something that is going

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Speaker 2: to be headline worthy. That's what you want, that's my goal.

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Speaker 2: I don't get caught up in long questions. I want

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Speaker 2: long answers. And Pete gave you something yesterday and it

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Speaker 2: became a headline all across sports. If it had been reversed,

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Speaker 2: what would we be saying about the college football playoffs

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Speaker 2: selection show? It's rigged, it's fixed, Notre Dame the brand,

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Speaker 2: what didn't happen? And I have no problem with Miami

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Speaker 2: being in at all, no issue, But I have a

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Speaker 2: problem that you're going to say, well, last minute, we're

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Speaker 2: just going to have Miami over Notre Dame. And why

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Speaker 2: didn't you do that before? That would have been my

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Speaker 2: only argument. Alabama should have dropped further. In my opinion,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think they look competitive against Georgia. Those are

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Speaker 2: my knocks on this. Now there's other problems I have

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Speaker 2: with this. I'm just curious what is exactly does permanent

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Speaker 2: damage mean with Notre Dame in their relationship with the ACC.

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Speaker 2: Cameron in Indiana, I can what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 7: So Hey, I just wanted to take you back on

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Speaker 7: you guys with that. So I guess my question for

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Speaker 7: you guys would be either the Mothership or the ACC

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Speaker 7: snubbing Notre Dame. Do you guys think this leads to

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Speaker 7: the ACC completely being torn down?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen with the ACC.

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Speaker 2: Florida State wanted out. I think that Clemson had some issues.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that there was the concern how

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Speaker 2: does the national media view the ACC and they don't

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Speaker 2: view them anywhere near the SEC or the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: And I think that there was concern, a worry that

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Speaker 2: of these other conferences? And the answer is no, you don't,

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Speaker 2: you're not, And then you have this fiasco here as well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Paulie, and the ACC does not have Clemson barging

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Speaker 2: Uh, Tony in California, Hi, Tony, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Good morning Dan, getting up, Good morning, Marmon, beautiful day. Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 10: you know I only call them when I'm super fired

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Speaker 10: up about something, and this goes against one of my

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Speaker 10: life principle of the College Football Committee. Like I've taught

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Speaker 10: my kids, if you're going to make a completely arbitrary,

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Speaker 10: subjective decision, make sure there's an element of cool or adventure.

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Speaker 5: What a miss. They should have bumped up arbitrarily LSU

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Speaker 5: because of the god oday best coach in the country.

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Speaker 5: Send him to Oxford Connor McGregor to be a security guard.

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Speaker 5: Shafts up there, the governor out out on a few

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Speaker 5: people long, you know what I mean? All Right, we win,

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Speaker 5: we take the best ten players back to LSU with us.

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Speaker 5: What we lose in the LSU crazies come out and

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Speaker 5: start calling for Link Kissing's job. What an opportunity at all?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Tony. You know I'm big on content.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: I just got this from a source, and he says,

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Speaker 2: given that the College Football Playoff Committee has until January

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Speaker 2: twenty third to determine the format, I'd be surprised if

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Speaker 2: anything is.

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Speaker 3: Announced with Notre Dame that's firm today.

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Speaker 2: My source says, I could see them maybe saying they're

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Speaker 2: going to review all options for sixty days.

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Speaker 3: No, once again, that's a trusted source on this.

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Speaker 2: Does Notre Dame say anything that's declarative or do they

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Speaker 2: say we're going to put our relationship now, this is

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Speaker 2: what I would do. I would say, we're going to

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Speaker 2: put our relationship with the ACC under review over the

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Speaker 2: next thirty days. In the new year, we'll announce, you know,

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Speaker 2: because this allows the ACC and Notre Dame to do

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Speaker 2: some backchanneling, to be able to talk this out and

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Speaker 2: can you smooth this over? And if not, then you know,

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Speaker 2: it might be full steam ahead where they go. You

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Speaker 2: and go to the Big Ten and we're going to

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Speaker 2: make our schedule a little more Big Ten friendly, and

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Speaker 2: then everybody wins as far as Notre Dame of the

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Speaker 2: Dame when it comes to you know, basketball and the

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Speaker 2: other I think they have twenty four sports that are

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Speaker 2: associated with the ACC. But that's a press conference coming

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Speaker 2: up at noon Eastern, I believe Chris and Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Hi Chris, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 11: Hey?

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Speaker 9: Dan? I was watching and first of all, thanks you

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Speaker 9: guys provide such entertainment for me in the morning. It's tremendous.

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Speaker 9: But anyways, watching the SEC Nation this weekend, and one

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Speaker 9: of the SEC hosts mentioned that he was speaking with

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Speaker 9: said to him, he goes, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 9: So you know they're they're they're relying on the committee.

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Speaker 9: So maybe I'm thinking SEC goes on their own. All

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Speaker 9: four conferences go on their own. You have your championship

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Speaker 9: weekend with your top four teams like they had last weekend.

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Speaker 9: You take your two winners. SEC goes to the Sugar Bowl.

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Speaker 9: ACC goes to the Orange Bowl, Big twelve down the

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Speaker 9: Cotton Bowl, Big ten to the Rose Bull. You get

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Speaker 9: your champion of each conference there. And then you say, okay, fellas,

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Speaker 9: we're headed to Arizona and we're going to have a

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Speaker 9: final four weekend in Arizona and we'll get a national

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Speaker 9: champion out of it, or you know, two weekends, you

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Speaker 9: can't play day after that. I just think that they

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Speaker 9: want to if you want to get the committee out

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Speaker 9: of the whole count things. Each conference takes on their

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Speaker 9: own their own thing.

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Speaker 2: All right, a lot of scenarios here. Let's decide how

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Speaker 2: many teams we're going to have next year. Because I've

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Speaker 2: heard from staying firm twelve to going to fourteen or

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Speaker 2: going to sixteen. I think it's in a state of

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Dan? Hey can you hear me?

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Speaker 13: Hey, six to two? And I've always been big bone

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Speaker 12: And big bone baby, I got it.

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Speaker 13: Me and my buddies came up with a new format

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Speaker 2: Well, I gotta be careful of how many games I'm

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Speaker 3: But thank you.

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Speaker 2: Everybody seems to have an answer for the format, except

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Speaker 8: Yes, Paulie, I got a little more from a person

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Marvin, do you think other schools like Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: to describe the Eagles performance last.

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Speaker 3: Night, regressing why, well, you know, Jalen.

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Speaker 15: Hurts didn't see wide open receivers once again, and his

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Speaker 15: The Chargers have been flushing him out of the pocket

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Speaker 15: I think the Eagles could be and what they have become.

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Speaker 2: How dangerous are they here trying to regroup with the

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Speaker 15: Well, they're in survival mods. I don't know about regroup.

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Speaker 15: They're in survival mode. They got four games left. They

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Speaker 15: Let's just focus on this particular year where they are right.

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Speaker 16: So you can't adjust.

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Speaker 15: Next man up is the concept in the NFL if

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Speaker 15: So part of it is on Saquon. And this is

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Speaker 16: Can this be fixed?

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Speaker 15: Absolutely, can be fixed in time for this week. Can

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Speaker 16: Not sure?

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers may be coming back. I'm wondering what does

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Speaker 16: That's a good question. I'm on the committee, and I

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Speaker 16: That wasn't the question I thought you were going to

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Speaker 16: ask me. I thought you were going to ask.

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Speaker 15: Me, how in the world can a guide come back

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Speaker 15: to the league at age forty four after half.

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Speaker 16: A decade of being with his kids and his family.

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Speaker 15: And I love Philip Rivers, great family and devoted to

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Speaker 15: his children.

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Speaker 16: But now he's being.

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Speaker 15: Enticed to come back by his friends in Indianapolis. And

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Speaker 15: that's all good. And we've seen what's happened with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 15: Know what kind of shape Philip Rivers in. I'm sure

447
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Speaker 15: they're checking him out. I hope he comes back. It'll

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Speaker 15: be a great story. It tells the story not only

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Speaker 15: of where Indianapolis is, but where the NFL is on

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Speaker 15: the quarterback position, right, So we'll see what happens with

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Speaker 15: Philip Rivers. He's on the bubble. You know, we voted

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Speaker 15: last year and Eli Manning didn't get in. I voted

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Speaker 15: for Eli Manning. I'm a big, big supporter of Elton.

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Speaker 15: You went two Super Bowl MVPs short list, got to

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Speaker 15: get in, didn't get in. Philip Rivers is maybe Dan

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Speaker 15: a notch below Eli Manning, Drew Brees will get in

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Speaker 15: this year most likely. Hope he does. I will vote

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Speaker 15: for him. And then there's Eli and Philip Rivers and

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Speaker 15: let's not forget about Big Ben. So that's the you know,

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Speaker 15: the pipeline of quarterbacks with Hall of Fame. So Philip

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Speaker 15: Rivers is in the conversation, but not at the top

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Speaker 15: of the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Ben Jen correct, you would think so for sure.

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Speaker 15: I mean, you know, I was talking to Merrill Hodge.

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Speaker 15: We used to be together on the NFL Matchup show.

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Speaker 15: Merrill used to play in Pittsburgh. You know, he's got,

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Speaker 15: as I used to say on the show, take the

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Speaker 15: black and gold underwear.

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Speaker 16: Off once in a while. So but he loves Big

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Speaker 16: Ben and so to why.

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Speaker 15: And the thing is, when you look at Ben, he

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Speaker 15: raised the level of everybody around him.

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Speaker 16: For a lot of reasons. Strong arm, that mobility.

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Speaker 15: Early in his career, I remember Bill Parcells talking about

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Speaker 15: the fact that Big Ben was like a you know,

476
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Speaker 15: oak Tree on roller skates. You couldn't bring him down.

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Speaker 15: Great mobility in the pocket, terrific accuracy, and he's got

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Speaker 15: the titles and the numbers.

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Speaker 16: So short answer, yes, that was my long answer.

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Speaker 2: Sorry man, what's Matthew Stafford's resume missing anything in your

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Speaker 2: opinion for Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 15: Not missing anything? Okay, Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. First ballot.

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Speaker 16: Tough. It's always tough first ballot.

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Speaker 15: You know we're talking Peyton Manning, Brett Fire, John Elway,

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Speaker 15: I'm in.

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Speaker 16: Are you that guy? Probably not, but he gets in.

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Speaker 2: Chris Sims brought up the analogy with Josh Allen that

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Speaker 2: he is the modern day John Elway.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 16: I like it. I like that analogy quite a bit close.

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Speaker 15: But no cigar super strong arm can put on the

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Speaker 15: cape take over.

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Speaker 16: A football game.

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Speaker 15: Go back and just watch just some of the highlights

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Speaker 15: we throw in the old twenty two if you like to,

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Speaker 15: like I did, of just a Bill's offense, because I'm

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Speaker 15: doing Bill's at Patriots in Foxborough first time. I'm going

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Speaker 15: back to Patriot Place by away since Tom Brady left,

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Speaker 15: and why wouldn't you This is a huge game. But

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Speaker 15: go back and look at the Bills offense, especially in

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Speaker 15: the second half, in the driving snow.

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Speaker 16: Right and Josh Allen three touchdown.

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Speaker 15: Passes runs for another one, the longest touchdown run of

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Speaker 15: his career in the drive in snow.

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Speaker 16: What a performance by Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: Good to catch up with you again. I like when

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Speaker 2: you're fired up there. Thank you for joining us, Sal, Dan.

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Speaker 16: You get me fired up, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Then mission accomplished. Thank you, Sal.

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Speaker 2: South Palatonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if I ever told Sal.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I did, but there was a moment on the

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Speaker 2: six o'clock Sports Center when I realized that I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be doing Sports Center anymore. I threw it out to

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Speaker 2: South Palatonio. I think we started the show, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we went out to Supau for something breaking with the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and I just I remember doing it and Sal's talking.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm even listening, and I'm going,

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't be doing this. I'm not any good at this.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do this anymore. And it was

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Speaker 2: just weird. Then Sal goes back to you, Dan, I go,

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Speaker 2: thank you so, and then just went about my business.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: Did I tell you that sound that I threw it

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Speaker 2: out to you? And I decided nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: your reporting. But I in that moment as you're talking,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm done with doing Sports Center?

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Speaker 3: What am I doing? I'm an old man here.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 15: I get that all the time at home doing Sports

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Speaker 15: Center and nobody's.

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Speaker 3: Listening, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was just one of those real moments

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Speaker 2: live TV and I'm going, I am the old guy here.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else is gone or they're doing specialized shows, and.

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Speaker 3: What am I doing. I'm fifty years of a and

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Speaker 3: I'm doing Sports Center. Yes, Tom, that's an extremely honest thing.

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Speaker 3: He just shared.

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Speaker 14: A lot of people fake it or would never admit

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Speaker 14: that they were had their mind elsewhere in the middle

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Speaker 14: of a national broadcast.

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Speaker 3: So that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. There are times when you daydream. That's

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Speaker 2: why I've asked golfers before, like, you're in a big moment,

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Speaker 2: do you ever daydream?

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Speaker 3: Do you ever?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Why is this thought in my head?

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Speaker 11: You know?

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Speaker 2: You have the famous Joe Montana in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: against the Bengals where he's trying to calm his team

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Speaker 2: down and he goes, oh, and he's telling his offensive lineman,

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Speaker 2: is that John Candy over there in the uh in

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Speaker 2: the stadium and you know, just random things. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: that that did come to mind. I throw it and

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Speaker 2: south peal Antonio joins us, I throw it out. I go, God,

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Speaker 2: I am what am I doing?

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Speaker 3: What am I doing? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: So coming up cors light six pack of questions or

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Speaker 2: whatever we would do back then? Yeah, yeah, of course,

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Speaker 2: you know it'd be uh due Johnny good times. Johnny

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Speaker 2: Clayton would join us, or the Salisbury against John Clayton.

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Speaker 3: That was the duo right there. They went out of

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Speaker 3: each other.

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Speaker 2: Dustin in Ohio, Hi, Dustin, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 3: Hey, Dustin Boltay, Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 12: Dustin in Alabama. But that's all right, roll ti Hey.

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Speaker 12: Two quick comments and then a question regarding my Saints.

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Speaker 12: One the comment I really love yesterday's interviews and all

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Speaker 12: in the possibility of moving the Bowl games at the

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Speaker 12: beginning of the season. You know, you kind of already

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Speaker 12: got Labor Day weekend built in there where you could

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Speaker 12: stretch out, say twenty thirty big games over four or

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Speaker 12: five days, put them in cities that probably are normally

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Speaker 12: too cold to have Bowl games anyways, So I love

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Speaker 12: that idea to.

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Speaker 5: The game last night.

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Speaker 12: You know, the strip is already written for a coach

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Speaker 12: named Nick in overtime to win with Devonte Smith on

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Speaker 12: the field, and the answer to win that game is

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Speaker 12: your bench. Jalen, you put into a how was at that?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Thank you? Dustin, Dustin not from Ohio, Dustin

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Speaker 3: from Alabama. We'll take a break.

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Speaker 2: The Philip Rivers question that I surprise Soupal who is

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Speaker 2: a voter for the Hall of Fame. If you come

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Speaker 2: back to play, do then we have to reset the

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Speaker 2: clock for you to be eligible for the Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: That'll keep you in your seat. We're back after this.

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Speaker 2: The Philip Rivers Hall of Fame status. If he comes back,

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Speaker 2: does he do they reset the clock if he plays

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Speaker 2: in a game suits up for a game with the Colts.

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Speaker 8: There's some nuance to it. So Rivers is a semifinalist

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Speaker 8: for the Class of twenty twenty six, the upcoming class. Oh,

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Speaker 8: he's just months away from either being in or waiting

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Speaker 8: another year.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 8: According to the Hall of Fame. If Rivers assigned to

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Speaker 8: the active roster, his Hall of Fame eligibility resets. It

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Speaker 8: would need to be out another five years before he's

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Speaker 8: looked at. If he assigned to the practice squad, it

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Speaker 8: doesn't affect his Hall of Fame status. So active roster,

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Speaker 8: whether he takes a snap or not, resets his status.

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Speaker 3: Can he get what if he plays in the game

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Speaker 3: this weekend.

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Speaker 8: He's reset new clock five years. He would now be

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Speaker 8: up for the Class of twenty thirty one.

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Speaker 3: I think, But he's a semi finalist this year.

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Speaker 8: Yes, but it hasn't been decided yet. It's like if

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Speaker 8: he joins the active roster for the Colts or another team,

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Speaker 8: he takes his name off the twenty twenty six Hall

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Speaker 8: of Fame ballot.

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Speaker 3: Yes, time, that seems terribly unfair.

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Speaker 7: I don't like that.

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Speaker 14: You'd get more and more forgotten over time, and then

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Speaker 14: there's new writers that are voting on the I don't.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he could be adding to his resume. Well, he

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Speaker 3: could be taken away from it like Russell Wilson has.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, this is absolutely a great thing for Phil

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Speaker 8: Rivers because let's say he goes to the Hall of

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Speaker 8: Fame in twenty thirty one, all his kids will be

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Speaker 8: grown up and they could be there, and about six

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Speaker 8: or seven more grand kids can attend.

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Speaker 3: But is he playing his way out? We just I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 8: His last year with the Colts, he was eleven and

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Speaker 8: five as a starter and he had like twenty seven touchdowns.

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Speaker 8: He was not limping to the finish. I mean he

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Speaker 8: was technic figuratively.

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Speaker 2: Uh, who is more? Hall of Fame ply has two candidates.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we haven't played this in a while. Based off

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Speaker 8: these stats, who should go in the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 8: First quarterback one one's seventeen and one seventeen as a starter,

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Speaker 8: two super Bowl wins, eight total playoff wins, six total

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Speaker 8: playoff appearances, three hundred and sixty six touchdowns, two hundred

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Speaker 8: and forty four picks, fifty seven thousand career yards.

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Speaker 3: So Eli Manning correct.

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Speaker 8: Quarterback two one sixty five and eighty one in the

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Speaker 8: regular season, two super Bowl wins, thirteen playoff wins, twelve

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Speaker 8: playoff appearances, four and in eighteen yards I'm sorry touchdowns,

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Speaker 8: two hundred and eleven picks, sixty four thousand yards. Would

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Speaker 8: you agree that quarterback two is way way way more

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Speaker 8: Hall of faming based off the stats. Yeah, that's Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it doesn't feel like he's as automatic as Elias and

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Speaker 8: well conversation.

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Speaker 2: It feels like we're talking about Eli because we're not sure.

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Speaker 2: I don't I haven't heard anybody say, you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if Ben's a Hall of Famer. With Eli,

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Speaker 2: it feels like I don't know if he's a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer. Feels like Ben is a yeah, hall of Famer. Yeah, Eli,

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, so Ben's assumed. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: would put him in over Eli in a second.

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Speaker 8: He might be underrated because his Super bowls happened so

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Speaker 8: early in his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he didn't get credit for the first one

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Speaker 2: as much, and Jerome Bettis talked about that on the show.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ben, they kind of won maybe in spite

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Speaker 2: of him, Yes, Seon.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem with getting them early is that then

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Speaker 4: you never get back there. That's becomes a storyline. Well,

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Speaker 4: they got them early. He never got back there though,

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Speaker 4: or know, never got another one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are big numbers though, you know, the four

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Speaker 2: hundred touchdowns only two one hundred and eleven picks two

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Speaker 2: super Bowl victories, twelve playoff wins. You know those are

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Speaker 2: big numbers. But I haven't heard anybody go. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if Ben is.

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Speaker 3: We have.

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Speaker 2: We've spent time, We've spent shows on Eli Manning. Is

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Speaker 2: he a Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 3: And I don't think he is.

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Speaker 2: But I think the two super Bowl wins against the

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Speaker 2: Patriots puts you win because you're an average quarterback. He

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Speaker 2: had two magical years. Now, he's durable, he played all

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Speaker 2: the time, he played in New York. You're famous family,

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Speaker 2: I understand all of that. But you know you're you're

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Speaker 2: going to put him in based off two seasons because

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Speaker 2: that's what the bottom line. You won two super Bowls

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Speaker 2: and he did, and he played really well in those

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls, really well, big time, and you beat Brady

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Speaker 2: and you beat Belichick.

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Speaker 14: Yes, Mark, you mean two postseasons because they barely got

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Speaker 14: into play those two years.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's it. I think those were the only postseasons

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Speaker 3: that he was in.

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Speaker 8: Now, Eli made six playoff appearances. He only won games.

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Speaker 2: That in the two years. Yes, Okay, let's see, uh

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Speaker 2: goebes in Plymouth. I don't know if I pronounced that right,

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Speaker 2: You got it?

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Speaker 9: Perfect.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 17: I was listening to your interview with Pete bakubat Notre

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Speaker 17: Dame yesterday and he said that they signed a letter

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Speaker 17: of memorandum understanding that if Notre Dame is ranked twelfth

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Speaker 17: or higher next year, that they automatically get in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Well, last year Alabama was controversially left out of the playoffs,

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Speaker 17: and I was wondering if Alabama had the same kind

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Speaker 17: of agreement.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm going to get some of my

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Speaker 2: best people on that. I think that's a fair question

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Speaker 2: to ask because Notre Dame, for some reason, are they

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Speaker 2: the only ones who got this? If you're in the

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Speaker 2: top twelve, you're in the postseason. I'm shocked that the

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Speaker 2: College Football Playoff Committee would agree to that. I got

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Speaker 2: maybe somebody can explain that to me. We're like Jara,

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Speaker 2: we'll sign that, you will?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What else do we have here? Steven Wyoming? Hi, Steve,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 8: Dan?

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Speaker 3: How are you go?

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Speaker 11: What are the touchback on what Paul talked about baboheads

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Speaker 11: last hour? I can give you a little information as

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Speaker 11: a guy who is a collector for many decades, So

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Speaker 11: they go back to babbleheads select the seventeen sixties when

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Speaker 11: the Chinese were making them and they were imported into Europe,

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Speaker 11: and then fast forward to the early sixties they started

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Speaker 11: baseball starting and making them out.

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Speaker 3: Of paper mache.

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Speaker 11: They had originally four player players, and there's only four

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Speaker 11: that were really the original ones. It was Maris mantel

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Speaker 11: May's and Clemente, and then later they had variations of

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Speaker 11: white base and gold base, and depending on the variations,

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Speaker 11: they could be worth many hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.

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Speaker 11: In fact, they even had dark face dolls they're called dolls,

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Speaker 11: and those were much more rare, were not collected as well,

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Speaker 11: and if you were fortunate enough to find one in

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Speaker 11: a box somewhere, those could be worth thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 11: Then they rolled out the miniatures which had a magnet

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Speaker 11: on the bottom, and those were what we used to

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Speaker 11: put on our dashboards back in the seventies.

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Speaker 3: If you recall that, what is the most valuable modern

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Speaker 3: day bobble.

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Speaker 11: Head, The most valuable would the Clemente.

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Speaker 3: Back in that era. Modern day I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I never collected. I don't really collect her. Modern day bobbleheads.

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Speaker 11: It became so prolific. But I got one other quick

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Speaker 11: question for you, Dan, do you recall this back Game

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Speaker 11: one two thousand and two. You and I met outside

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Speaker 11: at a beer kiosk at Anaheim Stadium and I bought

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Speaker 11: your beer, and I was wondering, what you think the

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Speaker 11: chances are of you and I getting together for a

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Speaker 11: beer the Angels World Series before our days on this

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Speaker 11: planet are done.

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Speaker 2: Well, we might get together for a beer. It won't

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Speaker 2: be for an Angel's World Series. But Paullie, remember I

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Speaker 2: told you about Steve.

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Speaker 3: He's at the kiosk.

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Speaker 8: He said he's a great guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I met Steve. I was at the World Series

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Speaker 2: and he got me a beer. Yeah, and uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: of course I'll never forget that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Steve. A History of the Bobbleheads. Bob Head.

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Speaker 2: Albert Breer gonna join us talk about Philip Rivers coming

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Speaker 2: back Monday Morning Quarterback, and Reggie Ala wishes Miller Junior

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Speaker 2: the Third. We'll stop by as well. Two hours in

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Speaker 2: the books, only one more to go on this Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Todd Seaton, Marv Paul Yours truly back after this