Speaker 1: It is Monday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jack
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Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. On this Monday. After the Week sixteen
Speaker 1: loss for the Jags to the Chicago Bears, the Jaguars
Speaker 1: hold the number one overall pick in the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: We have quite a program ahead as always on Monday,
Speaker 1: Pete Frisco and Tony Boselli will join us. Well, Tony first,
Speaker 1: we'll get to Pete a little bit. As we mentioned,
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick clinched. It is done. Jags
Speaker 1: lost unfortunately the Jets one. Thank goodness for Jamison Crowder
Speaker 1: put him in the Ring of Honor. What a game
Speaker 1: he had for the Jet in their win back to
Speaker 1: back wins. Now for the j E t s Jet Jets, Jets,
Speaker 1: the Bears, Jaguars review. We won't spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time on that one. There's not a lot to review.
Speaker 1: Will go around in social media questions. Twitter has been
Speaker 1: spinning all day long, and we've got some good ones.
Speaker 1: Will go around the National Football League as well. Tony
Speaker 1: Vaselli with us Pete Frisco coming up in just a
Speaker 1: little bit, and Tony, where are your first off? Good afternoon.
Speaker 1: This might be the best radio we're gonna have in
Speaker 1: a long time since the day you missed an hour.
Speaker 1: This will be the best, even better than that, I
Speaker 1: think without Pete. Yeah, and I think you like saying that,
Speaker 1: JP because it's more of you. You actually get a
Speaker 1: chance to talk when it's just one of us, because
Speaker 1: one of the both of us on, it gets a
Speaker 1: little crowded for you. Um doing good? Um, interesting day yesterday. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I'll just start with this is I'm happy that
Speaker 1: the uh because of the Jets wind that now everyone
Speaker 1: can actually root for the Jags to win a football game,
Speaker 1: so all the fans and everyone can be on the
Speaker 1: same page. No more of this happening, you know, a
Speaker 1: bunch of people rooting for them the lose when the
Speaker 1: players and coaches are trying to win. That's not very
Speaker 1: much fun. And so at least we got that going
Speaker 1: for us today. That Um it's over, I mean it's done.
Speaker 1: I mean we as I text, I shot a text
Speaker 1: to somebody yesterday if you're gonna be bad, be the
Speaker 1: best at being bad, because being second or third or
Speaker 1: fourth best at being really bad doesn't get you what
Speaker 1: you want, which is a shot at the best player
Speaker 1: in college football. And when you have a quarterback, uh,
Speaker 1: of the likes of Trevor Lawrence, and you need a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and you're a franchise that has not had a franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback for a long time, you know, if this is
Speaker 1: the position you want to be in, and now you
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to go get the guy. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no guarantees he's gonna be a franchise quarterback, but
Speaker 1: he sure looks good in college and it gives you
Speaker 1: some excitement to some hope and that I think the
Speaker 1: fans will be, uh, you know, paying a lot of
Speaker 1: tension this offseason going into training camp. Um, see what
Speaker 1: this guy can do. So you know, paraly the Best
Speaker 1: the Best radio show just lasted about three minutes because
Speaker 1: here's Pete Prisco was awful. That was awful listening to
Speaker 1: him babble on about oh, best, be the best you
Speaker 1: can be at losing. You didn't get on board when
Speaker 1: I started this in October. Yes, I just not right
Speaker 1: away you did. Finally came around, just like you came
Speaker 1: around to being a member of the media. And now
Speaker 1: look all the you know, all that stuff I did
Speaker 1: in October j E t s Jets, Jets, Jets. It worked,
Speaker 1: but silly it worked. The plan worked perfectly. Jacksonville's rejoicing.
Speaker 1: I was listening to some of the radio today up there.
Speaker 1: You would have thought they won the Super Bowl yesterday.
Speaker 1: But that's not that's not a good thing. By the way,
Speaker 1: that the most exciting thing to happen is being the
Speaker 1: worst team in the NFL. It is a good thing.
Speaker 1: Right now. It's better than I get I get it
Speaker 1: right now. It's fine. But I'm talking about the overall.
Speaker 1: I mean, this has gotta end. I mean, we gotta
Speaker 1: gotta just that. It just ended. You have stability for
Speaker 1: the next decade, you think, I mean, there's no guaranteed.
Speaker 1: You know that as well as I do. I mean,
Speaker 1: but there are certain guys that when the cold strafted Manning,
Speaker 1: when the cold strafted Luck, when the when the you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's certain guys you look at and you say, yes,
Speaker 1: that's the guy. Well, bastability around them too. In the
Speaker 1: in the front office, so that we get that. We
Speaker 1: understand that, JP, but this gives you the chance to
Speaker 1: build around the guy and and you know, look, sustainable
Speaker 1: success in the NFL comes from the quarterback position. Aberration
Speaker 1: seasons come when you don't have one and everything goes
Speaker 1: your way. Two thousand and seventeen was a Jacksonville aberration season.
Speaker 1: So what it was, No, we've got the playoffs with
Speaker 1: David are that one year he was a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: They had a good team. But that's an aberration and
Speaker 1: you and I agreed on these points. Line, I'm just saying, Wow,
Speaker 1: it looks like Trevor Lawrence is a you know, generational
Speaker 1: type of guy. UM that you have the highest confidence
Speaker 1: you possibly can have as far as the guy coming
Speaker 1: in and being good. UM. But all I'm saying is, listen,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pick them. It's the right pick. I mean,
Speaker 1: unless something crazy were to happen, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, I agree, JP, you've got to
Speaker 1: build around it. You agree with that if there's no
Speaker 1: guarantees and in the callings draft, I mean, there's been
Speaker 1: plenty of stories of top quarterbacks not working out now
Speaker 1: where they as highly rated as Trevor Lawrence. No, but
Speaker 1: I ask you a question. Last year in the title game,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow Trevor Lawrence, who was better? Joe Burrow is better? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's better last year as a college quarterback? Trevor Lawrences
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow is better college quarterback? Doesn't mean
Speaker 1: Danny werfol was one of the greatest college quarterbacks I've
Speaker 1: ever seen throw the football. He couldn't play in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I get that now. With everything I just said, should
Speaker 1: give you some hookers. Joe Burrow, by all account, by
Speaker 1: what we saw before you got hurt, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a fabulous quarterback. And I'll go back to John Elway.
Speaker 1: Was when I when I saw John Elway coming out
Speaker 1: of college, and he went to school and Stanford the
Speaker 1: same time I was at an issue. He didn't put
Speaker 1: up great numbers at Stanford, but there were times you
Speaker 1: looked at it you went, oh my God, look at
Speaker 1: this guy. And that's what you get. Where Cheval Lawrence,
Speaker 1: who does put up big numbers. Now I get it, Tony.
Speaker 1: He plays with good players. He's had great receivers at Clemson.
Speaker 1: He's had a great running back at Clemson. I understand that,
Speaker 1: but there's something when you look at him, and you're
Speaker 1: the one who always says it. You can look at
Speaker 1: when we were talking about Minshew early in the season.
Speaker 1: You can look at guys and no, they have it
Speaker 1: justin Herbert that the ball comes off their hands different.
Speaker 1: It's just different. Same with him, Josh Allen. The ball comes.
Speaker 1: You can't teach that. You can't coach that, and that's
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree with I mean the
Speaker 1: eye test, everything you see in the way that the
Speaker 1: athlete that he is, his size, his arm strength, I
Speaker 1: mean all of it. You watch like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he has it all. The one thing, though you said it,
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to evaluate these guys sometimes to
Speaker 1: get a real feel because how many times Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: actually been under pressure in the pocket? I mean, Clemson
Speaker 1: is so good and there hasn't always the line hasn't
Speaker 1: always been great to run sometimes too. Now that that
Speaker 1: does happen, he does, You're missing my point. I'm not
Speaker 1: just talking about the offense line. I'm talking about everyone
Speaker 1: around him is like five star. I mean they're Clemson
Speaker 1: is better than everybody. I mean in Devas Tween is
Speaker 1: a great job. So there isn't that they you are
Speaker 1: isn't at the too argument too? From last year? And yeah,
Speaker 1: but here's the thing I told you and we talked
Speaker 1: about this. I was never to a guy. I've never
Speaker 1: been a guy I watched him in college. I did
Speaker 1: not think he's gonna be a great pro. Maybe he
Speaker 1: will be. I'm not ready to bury the kid yet.
Speaker 1: It's not over by any means. He's a rookie. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff left to go um, but he
Speaker 1: would have never been my pick. I would have taken
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert before him. I'd have taken obviously Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: before him. He was never the guy that I said he,
Speaker 1: you know, for whatever reason, just the way it looked
Speaker 1: now Trevor Lawrence is completely different. I mean, but it
Speaker 1: is when you evaluate these guys when they go to
Speaker 1: a Clemson. It's the same thing at uh Ohio State
Speaker 1: with Justin Fields. Now, he looked not very good last week,
Speaker 1: but they're like nine out of ten times when they
Speaker 1: step on the field, they're surrounded with guys who are
Speaker 1: better than the other people are playing at every position. Yeah, true,
Speaker 1: I get that. I understand that, But where where like
Speaker 1: I go back to Stanford and Andrew Luck when he
Speaker 1: was coming out, he wasn't on the best team. He
Speaker 1: made everyone times better, kind of like Matt Liner at USC.
Speaker 1: The same thing. He had everyone around him. Like when
Speaker 1: USC back in the two thousand stepped on the field,
Speaker 1: they were better than everyone. They played offensively and Reggie Bush,
Speaker 1: they had receivers at offensive line and Linda White. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have guys coming from everywhere. And when Josh Allen
Speaker 1: was throwing the bouncers and bartenders at Wyoming, that's right.
Speaker 1: And you look at Andrew Luck at Stanford, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: I get it. But but but Tony, you can also
Speaker 1: look at it and say, Okay, if I took Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence and I stuck him at Wyoming, he would be
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen, if not better. If you took him
Speaker 1: to put him at Stanford, he'd be that guy. No,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think Trevor Lawrence is a
Speaker 1: special player. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt, um.
Speaker 1: But there's certain things. You mean, I go back to
Speaker 1: last year. If you'd asked me who's the better quarterback,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrences, Joe Burrow, I said, Joe Burrow last year,
Speaker 1: he might have played better, but you wouldn't have taken
Speaker 1: him before him. No, that's true. You're right, You're exactly right.
Speaker 1: He had a better year, but you probably still want
Speaker 1: to If they're both coming out right now, you'd still
Speaker 1: take Trevor Lawrence first. Okay, if they are all coming
Speaker 1: out right now, would you take Trevor Lawrence or Justin Herbert?
Speaker 1: You'd probably still take Trevor Lawrence. Here's the thing we
Speaker 1: talked about this last week, Pete. You know you know
Speaker 1: that Justice Herbert is special. You know, I mean he
Speaker 1: set the rookie record for touchdown and he doesn't by
Speaker 1: the way, he doesn't when they have keenan All, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't when they don't have I mean, he is
Speaker 1: a special player, I think, and do for this franchise
Speaker 1: what Patrick Mahomes has done for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I hope you're right, which means I'm gonna call it
Speaker 1: right now. If they don't win the Super Bowl in
Speaker 1: the next ten years, it's a it's a bad pick.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you have the number one, when you
Speaker 1: when you drafted guy Trevor Lawrence, that's your expectations. So
Speaker 1: it's Jacksonville yet the fireworks ready? Yet your excitement and
Speaker 1: parties planned? Because one year in the next ten if
Speaker 1: not to you will win a Super Bowl. Boy who
Speaker 1: I mean that? It feels like Tony, you're trying to
Speaker 1: just get everybody to tap the brakes a little bit.
Speaker 1: Here is what and by way I want I've said
Speaker 1: it for weeks now. I want the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: I want Trevor Lawrence on this team. I think he's
Speaker 1: the best player in college football. I think he's one
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks to come out since Andrew Luck.
Speaker 1: And I think he's a I agree with Pete like
Speaker 1: when he spends it and when he runs and you
Speaker 1: watch him as athletic ability, what he can do, his
Speaker 1: leadership qualities is I mean like he checks every box seat.
Speaker 1: But the word is that he's the word is that
Speaker 1: he's a Jim Rat, that he loves the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: like that's what you want. So yeah, but I'm with
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. By the way, Tony I said Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: will win a Super Bowl in the next ten years.
Speaker 1: That's how good I think they both are. I really
Speaker 1: do I think do you think Lawrence is better than
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, I do. I think Joe Burrow might have
Speaker 1: a better feel for the game right now, but pure
Speaker 1: athletic ability, pure ability to spin it, like you said,
Speaker 1: and he will get better doing all that other stuff.
Speaker 1: I know they're both great. I think they're both gonna
Speaker 1: be great. I think Herbert's gonna be special for sure.
Speaker 1: If quarterback play these young guys in the NFL. I
Speaker 1: was watching some of the video clips the other day
Speaker 1: of Lawrence. I don't watch a lot of clipson, but
Speaker 1: I watched something. But there was all these clips of
Speaker 1: touchdown passes from Lawrence, and a lot of them are here.
Speaker 1: Like rolling to the left the opposite way and throwing
Speaker 1: with his right arm. You can't teach that game. You
Speaker 1: can't teach that. That's you roll to your left and
Speaker 1: throw back. You're a rifle shot in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field going to your left when you're right handed quarterback.
Speaker 1: You can't teach that. That that's special. That's Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: like Jacksonville should be thrilled this Tony say it after
Speaker 1: me losing was good this year. Say it. Say I'll
Speaker 1: say this, Um, I'll say the same thing if you're
Speaker 1: gonna be bad, be really bad. And I was on that,
Speaker 1: you know, and we talked about as soon as it
Speaker 1: was obvious that this thing was off the rails, like
Speaker 1: hey keep losing because like being you know, four and
Speaker 1: twelve and getting enough you know, third fourth pick, I mean,
Speaker 1: no thanks. Now that doesn't mean Zach Wilson from b
Speaker 1: Y you might not be a great player. I mean
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was picked like ninth or tenth in the
Speaker 1: draft NFL draft Justin Watson. Sean Watson turned out to
Speaker 1: be a good quarterback where he was Justin Herbert was
Speaker 1: picked fit. So it doesn't mean that these guys aren't
Speaker 1: gonna be good other guys, but I'd rather have the
Speaker 1: pick of him, and I'd rather have the chance to
Speaker 1: take the guy that you feel most likely will be
Speaker 1: specially because there's no guarantees, but most likely you I
Speaker 1: believe he's the guy that can leave the franchise and
Speaker 1: be the face of it. It takes the doubt out
Speaker 1: of it. Now the Jets have doubt. What do they do?
Speaker 1: Do they keep Sam Donald, do they draft the quarterback?
Speaker 1: Do they get Justin Fields? Is that now they're the
Speaker 1: team with the doubt the Jaguars have no doubt now none,
Speaker 1: but there was never There was never any doubt this
Speaker 1: team was taking a quarterback, Pete, and I get that,
Speaker 1: but there's still doubt about the guy they're taking. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt, at least in my mind, there's no doubt
Speaker 1: about the guy that Jaguars are taking quarterback. One more
Speaker 1: thing before we go to break here, I want to
Speaker 1: go back, Pete to what you were saying. If if
Speaker 1: they don't win a super Bowl in the next ten
Speaker 1: years or two, then it's a bad pick. What if
Speaker 1: they go to two super Bowls and lose two super Bowls?
Speaker 1: Is it still a bad pick? No? No, But you
Speaker 1: know what I think. Come on, but if okay, like
Speaker 1: if they what if they did the Buffalo Bills and
Speaker 1: with the four straight and lost four straights, still one
Speaker 1: of the greatest compliments, this accomplishments this league has ever seen,
Speaker 1: and they that would be great. But you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, if they get the four two super Bowls,
Speaker 1: four or whatever and don't win them, there's still it's
Speaker 1: not a bus to pick. But I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: win one in the next test. I really do. That's
Speaker 1: how good I think that kids can be it just
Speaker 1: it puts you on a different plane. It's it's how
Speaker 1: many guys around the league that you can say right now,
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks that you would take before Trevor Lawrence. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the only guys you take obviously Homes,
Speaker 1: but they're all guys that have done it, Like right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, you probably take Herbert only because you know
Speaker 1: he can do it, and you we're pretty sure that
Speaker 1: uh Trevor Lawrence can do it. Now. With that said,
Speaker 1: it's still not like it's a it's a you could
Speaker 1: argue that Trevor Lawrence you take before Herbert or anyone
Speaker 1: else because outside of the Homes, I mean maybe a
Speaker 1: Watson would you take? Would you take uh Trevor? I
Speaker 1: would I take Watson over Trevor Lawrence now? And I
Speaker 1: think I'm with you Pete because he has special ability
Speaker 1: as far as armed talent and athletic ability. I mean,
Speaker 1: isn't isn't it a dude like six six too? I
Speaker 1: mean he's being cast Um, I'm gonna need a he's
Speaker 1: gonna need your helmet from the days when you play,
Speaker 1: because that head is giants just like yours big head
Speaker 1: and he has a lot of hair. Hey, one last thing,
Speaker 1: real quick, j P. Everybody in Jacksonville should be rooting
Speaker 1: for Ohio State this week. If you know, you'd rather
Speaker 1: he'd play only one game than two. Yes, let them lose,
Speaker 1: Let him get in. Bubble happen. Even if Justin Fields
Speaker 1: out plays him and beats him. You don't care. You
Speaker 1: just get what I'm playing too. Well. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question, is if they were to lose, Punson
Speaker 1: loses any chance, Trevor Lawrence goes back to win the
Speaker 1: national style. He's already got one. He's already got one.
Speaker 1: He's got one. And this is COVID. You go out
Speaker 1: when you can go out, and you gotta go deal
Speaker 1: with him. You might deal with another season like this.
Speaker 1: You get out of there. No, he's not. It's the
Speaker 1: greatest ever. It's the greatest scenario ever for Georgia kid.
Speaker 1: He's from a town like jag a small town. It's
Speaker 1: perfect for him. He didn't New York would have been
Speaker 1: bad for him. This is great for him. You know
Speaker 1: what my favorite is though I was reading something, it's
Speaker 1: a great market for him. It's a soft media market. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of papers in down. But when
Speaker 1: I was, there wasn't those soft media market that right now,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I love it. I was. I was never
Speaker 1: a soft media market when I covered that. Let's let
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Speaker 1: Tony Buselli after the Jaguars lost to the Bears yesterday.
Speaker 1: The answer was in reference to go ahead. Pete, it
Speaker 1: looks like I was gonna say, I know what that
Speaker 1: answer is too, But he doesn't realize they weren't just
Speaker 1: Bears fans cheering for the Bears. It was there anybody.
Speaker 1: I wasn't inside the bowl, Tony, you you saw in
Speaker 1: there where there's a lot of Bears fans anyway, I
Speaker 1: get that there everywhere, but it seemed like there were
Speaker 1: probably some Jaguar fans in Bear paraphernalia. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I don't mean it's hard to tell, but there was
Speaker 1: a lot of them. And at one point you had
Speaker 1: the chance, let's go Bears break out. I mean it
Speaker 1: was and every time the Bears did something good, which
Speaker 1: was a lot in the second half, it was a
Speaker 1: lot of cheers. Um, So were there any cheers like
Speaker 1: when DJ Chark caught his touchdown pass? Were there any cheers?
Speaker 1: I don't recall it being fans are smart. They're smart people,
Speaker 1: the fans for a reason. Well, and it goes back
Speaker 1: to my opening comments. At least this week now everyone
Speaker 1: can root for the Jacks because how great would it
Speaker 1: be to get the number one overall pick and still
Speaker 1: sweep the cold to keep the nut of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That would be beautiful. You know, it would be amazing
Speaker 1: if they beat the Colts again and the Colts didn't punt,
Speaker 1: probably the first time in history that the team didn't
Speaker 1: two games. But that was that was a bad boss
Speaker 1: yesterday for the oh Man. Yes, it was. We'll get
Speaker 1: into around the league coming up. Let's touch on this
Speaker 1: game yesterday very briefly. On off, Yeah, briefly, I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you want to talking about it? There's not
Speaker 1: much did anybody. Did anybody play well? Did anybody play well?
Speaker 1: I'll be completely transparent. I didn't even watch the team.
Speaker 1: I watched the game. I haven't watched the taby there.
Speaker 1: But you sounded like you thought the tackles played this morning.
Speaker 1: You sounded like you thought the tackles played okay, Cleil
Speaker 1: Mack And I mean he had he had one pressure
Speaker 1: I remember against John Taylor on a bull rush. But
Speaker 1: outside that, I mean, Glennon had time. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: he was under tremendous pressure. And they ran the ball
Speaker 1: pretty well, um with Gumbo. So yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: thought they held up much better than I thought they
Speaker 1: were going Jos not easy. I mean you watch what
Speaker 1: they did to the Vikings, oh my goodness. And what
Speaker 1: they did to Deshaun Watson and the Texans. I mean
Speaker 1: they killed them. Um, so I thought that was good.
Speaker 1: You know, here's the amazing thing about that game. It's
Speaker 1: ten ten with under a minute left in the second,
Speaker 1: by the way, and the Jackets have the ball and
Speaker 1: Blennan doesn't do that pick. What are they doing in
Speaker 1: that scenario? Right? There was almost like the radio down,
Speaker 1: Hey Mike, a little extra something in your check for
Speaker 1: a pick here, you're one of those. After the game, okay, okay, JP,
Speaker 1: go to the top to the play sheet. How much
Speaker 1: time was left on the clock and where were they
Speaker 1: when they through the interception? There on? They were on
Speaker 1: the twenty. Yeah, because there's a touchback, and I believe
Speaker 1: there was like fifty five seconds maybe fifty and they
Speaker 1: had one time out. I believe what Rabiscus passed was
Speaker 1: intercepted at the thirty five second mark. We're watching that
Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com right now and on Jack's Facebook.
Speaker 1: And then Glennon's Lennon's passed. That was the radio down.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Why you even trying it? Trying
Speaker 1: to get three points? Zecans? Let the no time out
Speaker 1: and then one time out left and then right here
Speaker 1: right before right before the half, you know, eight seconds,
Speaker 1: Bears get the ball back, they put everybody back on
Speaker 1: the goal line, they get some extra yardage, go down,
Speaker 1: call it time out and kick a field goal. Well so,
Speaker 1: and I was a little bit critical about this on
Speaker 1: the radio. Why were they playing so soft? Why would
Speaker 1: have everyone the goal line? And after having a couple
Speaker 1: of conversations with different people, um not on the the
Speaker 1: staff but kind of looking at you know what, um,
Speaker 1: you know, what was the thinking there? But want to
Speaker 1: give up a touchdown? Obviously? If so, what defense are
Speaker 1: you going to play? The reality is they had the
Speaker 1: time out, they were already in field goal range. It
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't like it was the sixty five yard
Speaker 1: It was gonna be a fifty one yard field goal,
Speaker 1: which is nothing in the NFL. Now, yeah, they're field
Speaker 1: goal range. And so I think what they said, like, okay,
Speaker 1: if we played in base defense and they go take
Speaker 1: a shot over the top and give up seven, we
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. They're already in field goal range.
Speaker 1: Let's just take away, making sure they can't get seven,
Speaker 1: and you know, making well, we'll concede the three. Now
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like it either, not the defense
Speaker 1: I would have. I would have run, you know, a
Speaker 1: soft cover three or cover four, or put you know,
Speaker 1: too deep over the top. You know, So there's different
Speaker 1: things you can do. I mean, the Raiders tried it,
Speaker 1: and you know it's Patrick found the hole in that
Speaker 1: UM in the cover two. So I mean every day,
Speaker 1: I mean, so I would have played a softer zone
Speaker 1: UM at least try to contest it underneath and try
Speaker 1: to force the longer field goal. But it's not like
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like they weren't in field goal
Speaker 1: range when they did it, right, But I mean it
Speaker 1: would have been a long field goal. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: What is your concern that they're gonna go buy you
Speaker 1: or that you're gonna get a hail mary thrown on you?
Speaker 1: What you're concerned there? Yeah, I mean the only concern
Speaker 1: you have there. And I argue again, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a real concerned. There's only seven seconds left. If
Speaker 1: they dropped back and try to throw a thirty five
Speaker 1: yard passed the end zone, they're not careful if he
Speaker 1: doesn't hit his back foot and foot and throw it,
Speaker 1: and they might run out of time, which is why
Speaker 1: you might try a hail mary, but that might run
Speaker 1: out of time too, That's right. So that was a
Speaker 1: bad That was a bad decision, bad coaching. I didn't
Speaker 1: like it. I thought it was the wrong call. But
Speaker 1: you know, but to be clear, they were already in
Speaker 1: field goal range. Um, so it's not like that. Well
Speaker 1: I allowed them to get into the field orange. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, second half starts and they blow the doors
Speaker 1: off the Jaguars a four straight touchdown drive. So it's
Speaker 1: really at that point didn't matter. Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not like we lost my three.
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Speaker 1: He really did. I thought that, Um, you know, he
Speaker 1: had about, you know whatever, twelve or fifteen carries. I
Speaker 1: thought he was he average about five yards of carry,
Speaker 1: had a nice twenty five yard run. Um, he was
Speaker 1: running hard. Um. You know, I think I think, you know,
Speaker 1: it would have been nice to see if you know,
Speaker 1: if the game was close and you know, now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's at twenty five. You know how
Speaker 1: he does there. But you know, I thought he did
Speaker 1: a nice job going in there. That's head coach Doug
Speaker 1: Maron discussing darry Ogunbally running back yesterday. Four teen carries
Speaker 1: on the nose seventy one yards five point one yard
Speaker 1: average his first career start. He only had four carries
Speaker 1: the whole season coming into yesterday's game, and he had
Speaker 1: some moments yesterday without James Robinson available Welcome back Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli
Speaker 1: the day after I lost to the Bears, and the
Speaker 1: day after the Jaguars secured the number one overall pick
Speaker 1: in next year's draft. So ogon b Wally. We'll see
Speaker 1: how James Robinson's week goes. Head coach Doug Maroon today
Speaker 1: said that they're still swelling in the ankle, and we'll
Speaker 1: see how the week goes. Basically, Uh, if he can't
Speaker 1: get out there Wednesday or Thursday, then he said, it's
Speaker 1: probably not gonna look good, but we'll see. So if
Speaker 1: he doesn't go, then Darry at least last week played
Speaker 1: pretty well in his place, and that'll be the the
Speaker 1: week seventeen situation at running back, Pete, what are you
Speaker 1: doing right now? You flipped your around. What the world
Speaker 1: is happening down there? Yeah? You're you are? You are?
Speaker 1: You are lost? Get the worst. That kid ran well,
Speaker 1: That kid ran well. I thought yesterday when he was
Speaker 1: in there, like you should just stop talking because we're
Speaker 1: seeing your computer screen. Just stop. No one wants to
Speaker 1: hear from you. Um. He played very well, I thought,
Speaker 1: and I think these are games. This is where this
Speaker 1: is important. Now we got to back unfortunately. Um, this
Speaker 1: is where everyone says, you know, the guys mail it in.
Speaker 1: Our guys checked out. This is the greatness of the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean you have the Jets who have won back
Speaker 1: to back weeks when it looked like they couldn't get
Speaker 1: out of their own way, and they compete and they
Speaker 1: play hard. You look at the Jaguars, guys like who
Speaker 1: are trying to make a statement like, hey, I could
Speaker 1: be the number two back here James Robinson or one
Speaker 1: of the other one teams that can where he has
Speaker 1: a chance to play. So this is the I mean,
Speaker 1: I love the NFL because it's very hard and very
Speaker 1: rarely do you see guys lay down because it's just
Speaker 1: the way the games played, the physicality of it. Um,
Speaker 1: there's so many things that go into it. And I
Speaker 1: thought it was a perfect example of just given great effort.
Speaker 1: And he did himself well yesterday the way he ran
Speaker 1: them all. Yeah, the opening drive, you probably went oh h.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the only time I went
Speaker 1: oh when Rabiscus with his play in the first half, gosh,
Speaker 1: he was bad, He really was. He was bad in
Speaker 1: the first half. And he makes some throws. I mean,
Speaker 1: some of the throws he makes are just terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going to be caught in the border situation if
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs, you know what I mean that
Speaker 1: if they may just if they win this week against
Speaker 1: Green Bay, they're in. They might keep everybody and then
Speaker 1: that's the boardles situation. You don't get better, you just
Speaker 1: the same in an interception in the first half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean game though Packers need the game. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bears are gonna beat him number one,
Speaker 1: um number two, even if they go to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: the Bears, Ryan Pace, Whoever's gonna be making that decision.
Speaker 1: He's not your quarterback. He's not the future. He's not
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna win you everything. So go get
Speaker 1: one because you don't have one. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: care what happens if it's you know, you win a
Speaker 1: playoff game. He is not the answer first Chicago at quarterback. No,
Speaker 1: I would agree with you one and and those who
Speaker 1: think he's the answer or misguided. But you're gonna be
Speaker 1: if you're stuck with him for not I mean, think
Speaker 1: about that. If you're stuck with him. No, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to bring that team up. Why would
Speaker 1: you be stuck with him? If you decide to keep them.
Speaker 1: It feels like Tony has already made the decision for them.
Speaker 1: It's the right decision. J p Athletic though, oh great,
Speaker 1: put that tight in. They're not a good team either. No,
Speaker 1: their back half isn't very good or at least he's
Speaker 1: not playing very well this year. Here here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: Real quick, Um, we had this debate. I think it
Speaker 1: was earlier in the year or last year. DJ chark Er,
Speaker 1: Alan Robbinson. I don't think that's a debate right now.
Speaker 1: Robins has a hundred catches with Mittel Troisky and then
Speaker 1: falls into the quarterback. That's what I'm saying, not at debate.
Speaker 1: He's better now. He's gonna get paid a lot of
Speaker 1: money this year to Jackson, get paid a lot of
Speaker 1: money from somebody. Yeah, but but I know, you know, Tony,
Speaker 1: you made a good point on the on the morning show.
Speaker 1: I saw they tweeted it out. That's not what they
Speaker 1: need in that receiving corps. They need somebody to run.
Speaker 1: They have speed, they have and I'm telling you, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in this. You need guys at
Speaker 1: your skilled positions that can make things happen when everything
Speaker 1: is not perfect and the only way that happens, Like,
Speaker 1: tell me, the last time we had to run after
Speaker 1: the catch or a guy just took it and was gone,
Speaker 1: it's been a minute. It's been a minute. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: because you have to have guys like a Deebo Samuel At.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know, but he didn't even run
Speaker 1: away from people. He just he's not a big But
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. Okay, the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: like eight of them. Yeah, one of those guys things.
Speaker 1: They get an open space and it's like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: everyone hold their breath. Right, you need you need speed
Speaker 1: outside the threatened defense and scare people. And I think
Speaker 1: DJ Chark I'll stand by. I still think you try
Speaker 1: to work a deal that's favorable the both sides. I agree,
Speaker 1: I would bring him back. I think it's a good play.
Speaker 1: But but I don't like I don't think anyone's like
Speaker 1: staying up at night going, oh my gosh, what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do with DJ Chart? Which you're right, which
Speaker 1: is why you look around? Like I mentioned Rondwn Moore,
Speaker 1: forer do I mentioned Tony Kidd from Florida? Don't heard?
Speaker 1: I heard? Tony doesn't. It's quick, he's quick, not quick.
Speaker 1: He runs pretty fast too. I don't know what his
Speaker 1: time is though. I'm telling you. I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: what I've been told by people who know Florida. Um,
Speaker 1: I haven't with the kid runs he looks fabulous. I
Speaker 1: mean for us fast. I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 1: him play. There was a game that one of the
Speaker 1: Gators games this year where Tony was gonna like chop
Speaker 1: at his feet and couldn't decide where to go, and
Speaker 1: he was hit right at the line of scrimmage every
Speaker 1: time he touched the ball. Other times I've seen him,
Speaker 1: it's like he makes a move and then he can
Speaker 1: get fifteen yards like that. You know, but but but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I don't know you
Speaker 1: guys have seen Ron down. He didn't play this year,
Speaker 1: but last year at FORDU. He guys like a Tyreek
Speaker 1: kill player, big plague ability, little school. You need quick
Speaker 1: fast people. Look at the Steelers. I mean they got
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys. I mean you need people who
Speaker 1: but they're not death fast either, Tony. The only one
Speaker 1: that could run is Deante Johnson. He's really yelling, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's why I couldn't think of his name.
Speaker 1: That's why Deante Johnson. Well, Claypool run too. He's more
Speaker 1: straight speed, straight line speed. He can fly to whoever
Speaker 1: it is. You need speed, because viscus it's not a
Speaker 1: speed Burner. He's a big guy. Chart is a straight line.
Speaker 1: He has some straight line speed, but he's not a
Speaker 1: making miss type of guy. You need a guy who
Speaker 1: gets in the open field and put some fear right
Speaker 1: in the defense. And and James Robbins is not a
Speaker 1: speed back either. Correct correct, And that's why I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you go find you know your your number two back,
Speaker 1: you know where you can share carries like a lot
Speaker 1: of the teams are doing nowadays, And maybe you go
Speaker 1: find the middle of the round, fourth, the sixth rounder,
Speaker 1: a fast scat back like an eckler, a guy who can,
Speaker 1: who can, who can move in space. So obviously James Robinson,
Speaker 1: he's you feel good about him coming back next year
Speaker 1: and being that number one back, but having a change
Speaker 1: of pace guy would be good as well. All right, guys,
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Speaker 1: new players touched the field for the first time, so
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Speaker 1: The league record eighty four by the Dolphins last year.
Speaker 1: In fact, that's a I think eight one this year too. Well,
Speaker 1: they let's see I'm looking at it again here. So
Speaker 1: as of this morning now the forty Niners have eighty eight. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: of Yeah yeah, al Woods, right, al Woods? But Gunter
Speaker 1: with the hardest year. I mean, I think he's done,
Speaker 1: isn't he? Yes, he's done, Yes, he's done. Al Woods.
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Speaker 1: not like he's getting any younger. Was he an old
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Speaker 1: was eleven? Was it long? It's a long time, but
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Speaker 1: guys hang around for a long time because well, because
Speaker 1: he's the first and second down player. I mean that's
Speaker 1: but don't they have that now though? With Hamilton's Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you need more than one and Aby's
Speaker 1: abys the person and second down player. So it will
Speaker 1: probably come. So it's done costing it was played well
Speaker 1: by the way the Jaguars. Uh claimed an offensive lineman
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Speaker 1: yesterday the Steeler And I'm gonna tell this, I know
Speaker 1: this is getting on with the tangent with the Steelers
Speaker 1: had their first two goal with the one they threw
Speaker 1: three fastes and then tried to run it in on
Speaker 1: fourth down. That's not who the Steelers are. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: come on, So they haven't they haven't been a They've
Speaker 1: been a terrible run blocking team all year j P.
Speaker 1: Which is shocking, very not who they are. So but anyways,
Speaker 1: Uh and somehow they had three guys to make the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl from the offensive line. Yeah, well, Patty goes
Speaker 1: every year. He shouldn't have gone for the last decade
Speaker 1: he's over He's one of the most overrated players I've seen. Tony.
Speaker 1: How did UH judge the defense? Just off the watching
Speaker 1: the game when you're in the booth and buddy play, well,
Speaker 1: he gave up forty. Maybe there was somebody I don't know,
Speaker 1: I didn't look like it, but nothing stood out about that,
Speaker 1: not even Miles Jacks plays regretted a little bit in
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I think that he's probably
Speaker 1: a victim of circumstances around. But there's so much going on.
Speaker 1: It's like, who the heck are these guys are? I mean,
Speaker 1: who are these guys? You know? Every week the changes
Speaker 1: it makes it, I mean the changes. You can't discount
Speaker 1: the amount of changes have happened on this roster, and
Speaker 1: what the effect that it has on guys who like
Speaker 1: a Miles Jack. You know, it's just it's hard. It's
Speaker 1: hard to play with different people around you weekend and
Speaker 1: week out, and it gets and it wears on you.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've lost fourteen straight games and I'm not
Speaker 1: and it's not like he's not trying, but it becomes difficult.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, every day I agree. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine if the Colts didn't blow a game where they
Speaker 1: didn't punt, everybody would be talking about going on Thank goodness,
Speaker 1: we won one game you've lived in for me though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not want to live with. I mean
Speaker 1: the Browns and the Lions, come on, Tampa who fourteen?
Speaker 1: Yeah that was John mckayse quote. Remember how was the execution?
Speaker 1: He said he was all in favor. Yeah, how was
Speaker 1: your defensive execution? But yeah, I mean, look, it's been
Speaker 1: a long year. I know that wears on those players.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's wearing on a guy like Miles Jack.
Speaker 1: Oh it's hard. So in the whole grand scheme of
Speaker 1: the game, not two or three players that you could
Speaker 1: say played well. Don't nothing about this. Nothing stood out.
Speaker 1: Nobody on offense either. He said the tackles were okay.
Speaker 1: I thought the tackles played fine. I thought, off it's
Speaker 1: a line blocked. I mean ran the ball well. I
Speaker 1: thought Glennon had plenty of time for the most part. Back,
Speaker 1: there's line played fine, and that's a good defense the front.
Speaker 1: Well start a quarterback this week. Good question doesn't matter? Uh, well,
Speaker 1: you said they're back on track to try and win
Speaker 1: a game. I would what matters to them? I would
Speaker 1: start looting. Why not? I would start looting to Maroon
Speaker 1: today said they have not discussed it as of one
Speaker 1: thirty today. They discussed it this afternoon and in the evening,
Speaker 1: so they should have something in the next day. Or
Speaker 1: Glennon is not any good, Minshew is not any good.
Speaker 1: You might as well find out what you got Looten
Speaker 1: and see what he could do. I'm with you on
Speaker 1: that one, Tony. Let him throw it around because he's
Speaker 1: the one guy that has a chance, legitimate chance to
Speaker 1: be back next year. Oh, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe it's the third you get a better got
Speaker 1: it back. You need to go get a veteran leadership
Speaker 1: to be calming influence for the for Trevor Lawrence. That's
Speaker 1: who you pick, like Andy Dalton something like that. You
Speaker 1: need to go get a guy who can come in here,
Speaker 1: show him how to do it, you know, be a pro,
Speaker 1: not trying to. He understands his role. He's not. That's
Speaker 1: why I don't think you can keep Gardner Minshew asap. No,
Speaker 1: here's a question at all. Now, is there any rule
Speaker 1: that would if Luton plays it's this fourth game, would
Speaker 1: not disqualifying from practice squad or anything like that. I'm
Speaker 1: not believe so. No. So that so he's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be coming to camp anyways next year, you would think, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have no doubt about it. I'll be shocked if
Speaker 1: he's not. So you gotta find a better backup quarterback
Speaker 1: because that young room would need a better backup quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you need someone with some presents, like and not Mike Glennon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think Glennon would be the right less and
Speaker 1: less They made that deal with him before half and
Speaker 1: said we'll make sure your the backup next year. There's
Speaker 1: no deal being Hey, Mike, you're gonna be our backup
Speaker 1: go back next year. Just make sure you bomb the
Speaker 1: rest of the game. And then again, you don't really
Speaker 1: have to tell him the bombs. What am I saying?
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just You're terrible. You are a bad
Speaker 1: human being, I know. But it's funny. I'm glad you're laughing.
Speaker 1: You're laughing. I'm not saying you're holding it back. You
Speaker 1: agree with I don't think it's funny. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think making accusations of bribes
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Speaker 1: c U. A. Um, we've got one more game left. Um,
Speaker 1: Like I told a team, I told him after game,
Speaker 1: I said, hey, then you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: all know that, I said. But hey, the way I
Speaker 1: look at it is, you know, we've got ourselves a
Speaker 1: game and you know, starting one. So you know, let's
Speaker 1: let's let's make this change. You know, let's let's just
Speaker 1: change this thing. And you know, I think these guys
Speaker 1: they care about each other. You know, in the locker room,
Speaker 1: they're they're consoling each other. It's, um, it's difficult. Um.
Speaker 1: But again, I mean, you're you're not getting a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, people point fingers. You're not getting people
Speaker 1: that want to get to take themselves out of the game.
Speaker 1: You're getting guys that are, um, you know, going in
Speaker 1: there and and trying. We're just it's not not making plays.
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Speaker 1: not playing well enough, and that's on all of us.
Speaker 1: We're back, baby. Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. That's
Speaker 1: head coach Doug Marrone from after the game yesterday. J
Speaker 1: p Shadrick Pete, Frisco, Tony Boselli. The Jaguars lost in
Speaker 1: Week sixteen seventeen. The final score the fourteenth consecutive loss
Speaker 1: for the Jags. It is now the franchise record alone
Speaker 1: for the longest losing streak in Jack's history. The Jets
Speaker 1: had about three minutes left in their game after the
Speaker 1: Jags game went final, and they held on to beat
Speaker 1: the Browns. So the Jags have secured the number one
Speaker 1: overall pick in the NFL draft and Pete, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: reporting that there are no fireworks barges on the river yet.
Speaker 1: But Trevor Lawrence Fever in Jacksonville is only just beginning.
Speaker 1: I'll say that it's been quite a day of conversation
Speaker 1: and radio talk and everything around what has happened after yesterday.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's isn't it crazy up there right now?
Speaker 1: Isn't feel the enthusiasm? Am I wrong? You're right, You're
Speaker 1: You're spot on everywhere. I mean, it's the same thing
Speaker 1: as last week. Everybody started talking about it last week.
Speaker 1: Now it's become reality and it's just ratchet it up
Speaker 1: even more. Everywhere I went today, people wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about Number sixteen, and you know what they should They
Speaker 1: should feel excited. This this is the this is the
Speaker 1: first time in there. Probably I was saying this the
Speaker 1: other day. Look, Mark Brunel was a really good quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't drafted and developed there. They found them,
Speaker 1: they went and got him. This is the first time
Speaker 1: they've drafted. They're gonna draft the franchise quarterback. It's not
Speaker 1: the whole time out though. It's not the first time
Speaker 1: they've tried. No, they've tried, but this one's gonna actually work.
Speaker 1: And they went from Byron Left, which did not work out.
Speaker 1: They went playing Gabbert did not work out. They went
Speaker 1: blaming Mortals. Everyone knows that story. So they've tried three
Speaker 1: different times with first round draft picks on quarterbacks, top
Speaker 1: ten picks, and none of them worked. But none of
Speaker 1: those guys coming into the draft was considered this kind
Speaker 1: of player. None of them not even clothes. They were
Speaker 1: MAC member and every one of their drafts those drafts,
Speaker 1: there was debates on who was the first quarterbacks should be.
Speaker 1: I agree, no, no, none of those guys were Trevor
Speaker 1: Laurence not in clothes. But I'm saying my my only
Speaker 1: point Pete is this this is not the first time
Speaker 1: that they've tried to find their franchise quarterback in the draft. No,
Speaker 1: I agree, but it's the first time that they're going
Speaker 1: to have one. Brunell played what two thousand, two thousand
Speaker 1: and one and two and two? How many of those
Speaker 1: years the first year he wasn't a franchise quarterback? So
Speaker 1: how many of those years was he a franchise quarterback?
Speaker 1: Who I mean? He went to you know, four straight
Speaker 1: playoff games, uh, playoff appearances with two AFC title games
Speaker 1: thousand probably six six of those years. That that's what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not sustainable. In sixty sixth grade he
Speaker 1: hit five really good years, six good years. But this
Speaker 1: might be the real the only franchise. You could argue though,
Speaker 1: that they get there was no reason to draft Byron Left,
Speaker 1: which the Marks still had three or four years left.
Speaker 1: I mean went he went to the Redskins, not a
Speaker 1: football Washington football team, and took him to the playoffs. Yeah, true, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. They're probably they were starting to figure out,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out for the future because there was
Speaker 1: nobody there that remember well, but remember it was different,
Speaker 1: it was they, um, they did uh. They drafted Byron
Speaker 1: because it was Jack del Rio and uh in shock
Speaker 1: their first year together, and they came in and took
Speaker 1: over and they wanted their guy, right. But in two
Speaker 1: thousand and one, Mark went nineteen and thirteen nineteen touchdown
Speaker 1: past the thirteen interceptions. That's not franchise quarterback numbers. That's fair.
Speaker 1: So and I'm not just in marcaus. I think Mark
Speaker 1: had four really good years in a row here. But
Speaker 1: this is the first time that they've had their You'd
Speaker 1: like to think this is the first time they'll have
Speaker 1: a ten year guy at quarterback in their history. It
Speaker 1: would be nice if you go around in the league.
Speaker 1: How many teams have not had that guy? Did Wear
Speaker 1: was one of the few that hasn't had that guy?
Speaker 1: Jampa hasn't either, by the way, were they drafted the
Speaker 1: guy and and he's been there guy? Right? Well, they
Speaker 1: tried the first overall pick, and you're after the guy
Speaker 1: named Vinnie Testa very who everyone was like Vince was
Speaker 1: going to be a superstar. Steve Young too, they drafted
Speaker 1: in up there to remember there. I mean, they've tried,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying franchises have had them. But this is
Speaker 1: the first time in this year's, this team's history that
Speaker 1: they can say that they're excited to be able to
Speaker 1: have that guy. Now to the conversation of who will
Speaker 1: make that selection. The GM interviews continue. The reports continue
Speaker 1: the surface of names associated with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and
Speaker 1: yesterday Jerry Reese was added to that list former Giants
Speaker 1: general manager Balky who's in house Reese, Lewis, Friddick, Rick Smith.
Speaker 1: The four reported names as of right now on the
Speaker 1: GM side Pete, Yeah, and look all those guys. If
Speaker 1: you look at Jerry rees has had success. He did,
Speaker 1: you know, he helped Tom with the picking that Giant's
Speaker 1: team and he had some good picks, but he blew
Speaker 1: a plenty. And Lou Riddick was part of the dream
Speaker 1: team in Philadelphia if you want to, you know, call
Speaker 1: him out for that. He was and that was a disaster.
Speaker 1: And Rick Smith did some good things for the Texans
Speaker 1: but had to walk away because a his wife was
Speaker 1: very ill and she has since passed away. Uh, and
Speaker 1: be he was kind of getting pushed out by Bill O'Brien.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he hit and Bill O'Brien did not have
Speaker 1: a good relationship for all the reports and Trent Falk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the courtesy interview inside the building.
Speaker 1: That's what I think that is. And it would be interesting.
Speaker 1: And obviously you know Doug still the head coach, um,
Speaker 1: but you would assume after this game, you know, it
Speaker 1: will be changes. I mean, I think we'd all be
Speaker 1: surprised there was not. Is that fair? It would be
Speaker 1: uh knocked me over. I'm dead surprised if he comes
Speaker 1: back and that's not a disc that's not a disc
Speaker 1: against him because nobody's winning with this team, nobody, so
Speaker 1: it's not on I agree with that. Um, So it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting. Um, what strategy does shot Con and Tony Khn,
Speaker 1: Mark Lamping and everyone who's making that decision. Do they
Speaker 1: go hire the GM first or do they hire the
Speaker 1: coach first? Or they do it together, tying the two
Speaker 1: individuals at the to the head, you know, so that
Speaker 1: would be to be clear. There's a couple of different philosophies.
Speaker 1: One is you hire GM and the GM goes and
Speaker 1: picks the coach, and the coach reports up to the GM.
Speaker 1: The other philosophy is is what you've seen more of
Speaker 1: and you saw it happen in San Francisco was Shanahan
Speaker 1: was hired first, and then they found a GM that
Speaker 1: fit with him and and they gave the matching contracts
Speaker 1: six year contracts together. The Browns did it last year.
Speaker 1: They hired Stefanski and then they found a GM that
Speaker 1: fit him, Eric Berry. I believe it is Andrew Berry. Sorry, um,
Speaker 1: Andrew Berry. And they brought him in once they had
Speaker 1: the head coach. And so there's stud different philosophies. You
Speaker 1: can win either way. Is it gonna be a strong
Speaker 1: head coach with the GM tied to him? Again, that's
Speaker 1: exactly what Sanrancisco did. theF had success or is it
Speaker 1: gonna be a strong GM and the GM hires the coach.
Speaker 1: In Carolina, they hired Matt Rule, gave him a bunch
Speaker 1: of money, and then they got rid of Marty Hernie
Speaker 1: and now Matt Rule is going to get a guy
Speaker 1: in there that works with him. Coach has It's just
Speaker 1: a matter of if who the quote. If you decided
Speaker 1: to go, for example, if they hired Herbert Meyer, Urban
Speaker 1: Meyer would have the juice and he would bring in
Speaker 1: his own guy. That's right. It just depends on who
Speaker 1: the coaches and what kind of juice he's gonna have. Well,
Speaker 1: you look at Buffalo, that the HIRI Sean McDermott, and
Speaker 1: maybe he's a strong coach. And then with him as
Speaker 1: part of the process, they went and hired the GM,
Speaker 1: which is why pairings are big. When you look at
Speaker 1: who might be going where, and you know you mentioned
Speaker 1: San Francisco. If they were to hire Robert Sala, then
Speaker 1: Adam Peters might be his GM, or if you hired
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, then Ryan Cowden might be his GM. And
Speaker 1: so you pair them together. And there's a lot of
Speaker 1: the usual names always get out because a the agents
Speaker 1: pound they just pounced on those guys to release their
Speaker 1: guys names because the more your name's out, you know,
Speaker 1: owners are, oh, he's over here, and he's over here,
Speaker 1: we gotta bring him in. Patrich makes which makes no sense.
Speaker 1: But there are guys out there that are you you
Speaker 1: hear good things about him, Cowdn being one of them
Speaker 1: that's not getting a lot of play. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: Buffalo has a couple of guys and and Dan Morgan's one.
Speaker 1: You know, Dan Morgan is a player in the league.
Speaker 1: I hear nothing but good things about Dan Morgan's evaluation skills,
Speaker 1: and how he could be a GM. I will say
Speaker 1: this Tony, and talking to some gms around the league,
Speaker 1: one of the things they say is when they took over,
Speaker 1: they thought it would be much more scouting than it is,
Speaker 1: and it's really only scouting in eight of dealing with
Speaker 1: everything else. Well, I mean, I think the GM, um
Speaker 1: you can hire and you can hire a good scouting
Speaker 1: department and have a good structure. Really the key I mean,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this and I think we talked
Speaker 1: about on the show. If you look at successful organizations,
Speaker 1: it's about really four main leadership positions. Obviously the owner,
Speaker 1: then your GM, your head coach, and then the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You need to get those four right. And the GM
Speaker 1: to me is more of a leadership of the football
Speaker 1: side of the organization, who is managing it and making
Speaker 1: sure the culture is right. Um players coaches, and that
Speaker 1: the reason the right players are. You know, you're out
Speaker 1: picking players that fit the system of the coach. You're
Speaker 1: there to support the coaching staff to get them what
Speaker 1: they need to be successful. Because I mean, because if
Speaker 1: you look at an NFL franchise, any of them, whether
Speaker 1: Jacksonville or Chicago Bears or whoever. Your two greatest assets
Speaker 1: are your players and your coaches. That's all that matters,
Speaker 1: because if you get those right, you win football games
Speaker 1: and everything else takes care of itself. And if you
Speaker 1: have a GM, I want a GM that's going to
Speaker 1: if he hires good people, he's going to listen to him.
Speaker 1: I've had I've heard so many stories of scouts getting
Speaker 1: fired because they pushed back and they didn't like it,
Speaker 1: and they did. I want that. I want you to
Speaker 1: challenge me and tell me why I need to go
Speaker 1: back in and look at a player. Maybe I had
Speaker 1: this brain on him, but you think he's better. You
Speaker 1: watch four games of him. I'm gonna go back and
Speaker 1: watch the same four games and see if I see
Speaker 1: what you see. And that's what I want from my name.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm officially throwing my head into the
Speaker 1: ring if they want to interview me. I'm more than
Speaker 1: willing to be the general manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: and I'll fight you. Are you your own agents? Do
Speaker 1: you have an agent or is it just you. I've
Speaker 1: done my own contracts. I can do my own deal.
Speaker 1: I can sit with the cons that I outline my
Speaker 1: plan and I'm ready to go. I'm officially throwing my
Speaker 1: name in. I know who I would hire from my coaches,
Speaker 1: I know what I would do. And by the way,
Speaker 1: whoever is the general manager of that team going forward.
Speaker 1: If you screw it up, you're a bad football guy, period,
Speaker 1: end of story. You can't. It's almost impossible to do.
Speaker 1: That thing will be rebuilt on its own. You could
Speaker 1: have a robot goin there. Overall, I have four picks, four,
Speaker 1: I have a ton of cap room. You can't screw
Speaker 1: it up. It's impossible to screw up. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean your point is is the right one though, in
Speaker 1: the sense of the GM is less about scouting more
Speaker 1: about leadership and like you said, and working. There has
Speaker 1: to be only There has to be one voice in
Speaker 1: the organization and the coach and the and the GM
Speaker 1: have to be on the same page. It has to
Speaker 1: be a single message that goes throughout the entire organization.
Speaker 1: On the football side. It's like, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: like marriage, Pete. It's like when when parents are on
Speaker 1: the same page, what do kids do? They play off
Speaker 1: each other? Like my kids are like like masters at it.
Speaker 1: If my and and I are on the same page.
Speaker 1: My kids are working both of us because there's discord,
Speaker 1: there's like it's not good. But when everyone's on the
Speaker 1: same page and everyone has the same message, and the
Speaker 1: GM and the head coach are tied at the hip
Speaker 1: and they know, like it's like it's said from the
Speaker 1: movie Backdraft. You ever seen Backdraft, Pete the fire movie
Speaker 1: Ago where Kurt Russell churs sitting there and he's holding
Speaker 1: the guy who's about to fall and he's like, let
Speaker 1: me go, and he goes, if you go, we go.
Speaker 1: And that's the mentality between the GM and the head coach.
Speaker 1: Like you slipped that out of my but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean that's the mentality that like
Speaker 1: the successful organizations in the NFL, and it's the same
Speaker 1: teams for the most part, they are successful year in
Speaker 1: the year because they have one voice. Those two guys
Speaker 1: are tied to hip and they're in it together. Thing
Speaker 1: that can't be involved, it can't be and it ruins teams. Ego. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you allow ego and credit to seep into a building,
Speaker 1: it will destroy every bit of it. Why if you're
Speaker 1: a GM and you have a coach, why on earth
Speaker 1: would you start fighting over who gets credit or who
Speaker 1: did it? Who cares right? You're both getting credit for it,
Speaker 1: and and and that's because so it goes back to
Speaker 1: your comic pet and I think it was really it's
Speaker 1: what was well said. It's about leadership, and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's the right leader wants to hear from everybody and
Speaker 1: wants pushed back. You don't want a bunch of yes
Speaker 1: man and so great leaders, great gms, great coaches are
Speaker 1: very confident, they have strong convictions, but there's also a
Speaker 1: sense of humility that they don't have all the answers correct.
Speaker 1: I were look, urban Meyer's name has been mentioned a
Speaker 1: bunch and I know there's interest there, and I think
Speaker 1: he's interested. Mike, there's a couple of concerns with him. One,
Speaker 1: he walked away for health reasons. That's always a concern
Speaker 1: um to how healthy is he now. Three he won
Speaker 1: in college because he outrecruited everybody. You can't do that
Speaker 1: in the NFL, though. This job is almost like recruiting
Speaker 1: with all the picks and cabh have. Um. So I
Speaker 1: think when you look at it from that standpoint, that
Speaker 1: worries me a little bit. And what would the building
Speaker 1: become and I know nobody cares about this, maybe only
Speaker 1: I do. But we talk about culture. What would the
Speaker 1: building become if Urban and say one of his old
Speaker 1: belichick that he knows lieutenants came in and took over
Speaker 1: the building. What would that be? But that's not good.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's good. In other words, if I
Speaker 1: sat here, we sit here on Monday night and don't
Speaker 1: you know me, I say anything. And that was part
Speaker 1: of me doing this radio show. I was gonna be me.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine me criticize in Urban Meyer on a
Speaker 1: on a Monday night for a bad decision he made
Speaker 1: on a in a game. You know, I'm sure he
Speaker 1: might take offense to that. That's because that's not something
Speaker 1: he's probably been used to. So I wonder how the
Speaker 1: culture would be if they brought in Urban Meyer. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, here's the verman. He's been successful
Speaker 1: everywhere he's been. Um, you know, he's not he's never
Speaker 1: been a coordinator. So I don't know if he's like
Speaker 1: a deep exito guy, but he's a he's a really
Speaker 1: good head coach, and he you know, was good at
Speaker 1: evaluating talent and going and getting kids to come play
Speaker 1: and He obviously put together some good staffs UM everywhere
Speaker 1: he was because a lot of the guys that work
Speaker 1: from our head coaches now UM. And so he knows
Speaker 1: what it takes. He knows how to build UM and
Speaker 1: he's obviously organized and he has that going on. UM.
Speaker 1: As far as the culture, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you'd have to talk to people who played for him
Speaker 1: or worked with him UM to understand what what that
Speaker 1: is like. UM. But you cannot argue with the results
Speaker 1: that he's able to bring. He's been successful everywhere he
Speaker 1: has been. Now it's only been in college. Sometimes that
Speaker 1: does not translate to the NFL, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: But he has to has success. The one thing he
Speaker 1: brought up that does concern me as well is the
Speaker 1: health because if he had he had to resign from
Speaker 1: two different places because of health issues, and he had
Speaker 1: you know, I think he had an issue on the sideline, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know when you worry about that, and you
Speaker 1: know also also he had problems with his players at
Speaker 1: a couple of different issues at the two different schools.
Speaker 1: To look at that that Florida team that won the
Speaker 1: national championship that come on Aaron Hernandez and Chris Rainey
Speaker 1: and Percy Harvin and and the pounds everybody. I mean
Speaker 1: it was Look, they were a great team, but they
Speaker 1: had issues. You go to Ohio State. Remember the assistant
Speaker 1: coach had all those issues and got in trouble. Remember
Speaker 1: that guy, um was it the wide receiver's coach. That
Speaker 1: was he got in trouble with his wife or whatever,
Speaker 1: and Urban acted like he didn't. I mean, there have
Speaker 1: been issues at two spots for him in terms of
Speaker 1: things going on, and that's a little concerning for me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's been a great coach, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: And I think you can. You don't have to be
Speaker 1: a coordinator to be a head, great head coach. No,
Speaker 1: I don't agree. I think there by the way, Pete,
Speaker 1: you and I are agreement there there are two different
Speaker 1: skill sets. Christ Because you're a good coordinator you can
Speaker 1: call plays, that doesn't mean you can lead fifty three
Speaker 1: men and set the culture and set the standard. And
Speaker 1: this is where we're going and this is how we're
Speaker 1: gonna do it. You had coordinators and you are Chris
Speaker 1: Palmer and guys like different skill sets, two different skill sets.
Speaker 1: So I'm not putting that against him at all. You
Speaker 1: have to understand what you're getting with Urban is the CEO.
Speaker 1: He's a CEO type of coach. He's gonna oversee it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make sure it looks right. He's a set
Speaker 1: the culture. And you bring up good points. They're fair points.
Speaker 1: I mean they're documented. It's not like you're talking about
Speaker 1: stuffing hasn't been written about. Um. The health issues are real,
Speaker 1: all concerns, but you cannot deny the man has had
Speaker 1: success and here he has been. He is a leader,
Speaker 1: he's a coach. He knows what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 1: And that is like you can't argue and so um.
Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see if that's the direct
Speaker 1: waving at you. We gotta take a break, guys, let's
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Speaker 1: Tony Busselli in our time for the always anticipated social
Speaker 1: media questions, we put the bat signal out early in
Speaker 1: the day. Here's what we've come up with today, the
Speaker 1: first one from that bootleg and the human not a question,
Speaker 1: but just wanted to give some props to the old line.
Speaker 1: Taylor was near perfect against Mac yesterday. Yeah, we talked
Speaker 1: about it. I think he played well. I thought both
Speaker 1: him and Camp played well after a couple of rough outings,
Speaker 1: that the whole offensive line was physical. They ran the
Speaker 1: ball pretty well, and I thought Glennon was fine as
Speaker 1: far as in the pocket, I mean, as far as
Speaker 1: time in the pocket. Tony I was talking to another
Speaker 1: GM this week and he was talking about how he
Speaker 1: had he thought both Taylor and Robinson would be really
Speaker 1: good and he was surprised they weren't this year. Really surprised. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know how I feel about him. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think they're both talented. I mean, and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a big decision with Cam, you know, because I think
Speaker 1: people see the talent. Someone's gonna pay him if he
Speaker 1: wants to get the free agency pe someone to the PAM.
Speaker 1: They're paying pretty good. What do you pay him? I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's a tough one. But I mean we
Speaker 1: talked about I mean, is he as good as Garrett Bowls. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't play as well. He hadn't come close to
Speaker 1: playing as well as Garret Bowls this year. Garret Bowls
Speaker 1: hadn't given up a sack this year, and Garret Bowles
Speaker 1: got seventeen million a year, but he ain't gainst seventeen.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that's what Garrett. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: him how much eight to ten. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: he takes it. I think he goes to free at Goodbye.
Speaker 1: I'll find it. I'll find a rookie left tackle. It's
Speaker 1: good tackle class. Our next question from that sick w A.
Speaker 1: What does plan B if Trevor Lawrence goes back to school?
Speaker 1: There there is no plan B hand going back to school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going back to school. I think
Speaker 1: here's here's the difference with it. Now, he'll talk this week,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be asked about it. He's not like
Speaker 1: he's from a big city. This is perfect for him.
Speaker 1: It's a small town. It's Jacksonville is a small city.
Speaker 1: It's a it's got a country feel to it at time. Well,
Speaker 1: and here's the other thing. If if if you look
Speaker 1: at if you're Trevor Lawrence and you're saying, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to Jacksonville, small market. Um, but they they've
Speaker 1: never won the Super Bowl. I can be the guy
Speaker 1: that builds the France that like is the franchise, like,
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity to do something that he can do.
Speaker 1: A very few other places that take the Jaguars to
Speaker 1: places it's never been before, make them relevant. That's right.
Speaker 1: And in today's the other today's in today's social media too.
Speaker 1: You see Martatrick Mahomes done in Kansas City, exactly right.
Speaker 1: And you look at go look at the NBA that
Speaker 1: you honest, whatever came his last names. Yeah, he's Milwaukee, Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: He's a star. If you the NFL is so big,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what market you plan, if you are great,
Speaker 1: and he goes and he is who we think he is, Remember,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Remember last year when they were talking about
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow not want to play in Cincinnati. I talked
Speaker 1: to him at the combine about it. He goes, No,
Speaker 1: that was never the case. And I said, look, I
Speaker 1: want my quarterback to say I'm going to make that
Speaker 1: team relevant in the next ten years. That's what I
Speaker 1: want to hear out. He goes, That's exactly how I feel.
Speaker 1: I imagine that's how Trevor Lawrence would feel. This is
Speaker 1: a perfect scenario for him. Income tax North Plida is
Speaker 1: a lot like Georgia where he from. Come on, I
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's going back. Let's say he did,
Speaker 1: just to be the question was asked if he did.
Speaker 1: But you, you know what, you're doing a lot of work.
Speaker 1: You're still taking quarterback number one, and you're going out
Speaker 1: and doing the work on who the best quarterback is
Speaker 1: in the draft? Right, But he's not going back. There's
Speaker 1: no no ways going back. Nope, he's not. At Marshmallow
Speaker 1: nine oh four has the next question. If you could
Speaker 1: pick ten players on this roster to move forward with,
Speaker 1: who would you choose? Hashtag Fred Taylor is the best
Speaker 1: Jaguar of all time? Oh he dissed you talk. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a shot, a shot across the board. Um ten,
Speaker 1: you take Miles Jack, Dame, Drumson, James Robinson, uh Chark three,
Speaker 1: Henderson four, Alan and the five offensive liignment. No, you
Speaker 1: take Taylor, Taylor Sailor six. Um boy, you're gonna take
Speaker 1: with Visschal seven? How about Hamilton's eight. I'm probably I'm
Speaker 1: taking I'm taking an oil. I know everyone like loves
Speaker 1: to aid him, but he's playing good football and I'm
Speaker 1: probably taking I'm probably taking Linda at center. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're just saying the best players, you would the specialist,
Speaker 1: they don't count you take um, you would take Chanal
Speaker 1: over Yeah, okay, if I'm taking Chanal off the list,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna take Logan Cook as the punk because
Speaker 1: you wouldn't take Sidney Jones over Chanal. Sidney Jones gets
Speaker 1: a healthy pete. Yeah, I know what Smith time too?
Speaker 1: I need this year. Yeah, it's fair like I got
Speaker 1: a big questions miss time at Colorado, A lot too,
Speaker 1: big questions about C. J. Henderson HM, because he he
Speaker 1: did he missed time at Florida Senior or junior. Which
Speaker 1: you would take young safeties? I mean, are you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna keep? You take Daniel Thomas is? I mean, just
Speaker 1: because of his youth and a little bit you saw
Speaker 1: and very good specially. Isn't it an interesting that not
Speaker 1: neither one of us said Joe Schoberg, that's right, this
Speaker 1: year he probably with them. Mean, I'll say this, I'm
Speaker 1: not good rid of him because I don't want to
Speaker 1: draft to. I mean, it goes back to the conversation
Speaker 1: about cam. Thank you. If you can get him for
Speaker 1: the right price, you can you definitely keep him because
Speaker 1: it's one less position you have to fill. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: some that's a dangerous strategy to get involved in at times.
Speaker 1: Tony No, No, I agree. I'm just saying you have
Speaker 1: to stack rank where the biggest needs are. Okay, where's
Speaker 1: the biggest need name number one biggest need? Well, quarterback?
Speaker 1: Well okay, but then you're gonna solve that. So let's
Speaker 1: go past right. Um, you need help in the secondary,
Speaker 1: you need you need a speed outside, you need uh,
Speaker 1: you love to have a matchup tight end that could
Speaker 1: create all kinds of issues, and you need playmakers, and
Speaker 1: then then you then I then you need offensive line
Speaker 1: is obviously I'm drafted on I mean I'm drafted offensive line.
Speaker 1: I'll probably even if I signed Cam in the first
Speaker 1: two rounds with this class, I'm probably taking one. Will
Speaker 1: you go, you draft with one, you take Lawrence with
Speaker 1: your other pick, which is getting better by the week
Speaker 1: with the Rams doing what they're doing, You take a
Speaker 1: tackle or a tight end, depending on what you do
Speaker 1: in free agency, and then you take a pass rusher
Speaker 1: and a down lineman maybe depending on what you're doing
Speaker 1: free agency, and then you get a speed guy. You
Speaker 1: gotta get a speed guy in the draft. If what
Speaker 1: everyone else finding the speed guys like in the middle
Speaker 1: of the round somehow. But really, how many speed guys
Speaker 1: are there? Though? Really when you boil it down, speed
Speaker 1: that you that scares the hell out of you. Okay,
Speaker 1: Kansas City is like fifteen of them. Well they have
Speaker 1: to really sandy walking. I'm joking. Okay, um, okay, A
Speaker 1: j Brown. Yeah he's a freakish athlete, right, Um he
Speaker 1: was a calf. Yeah they were They were second round picks. Right.
Speaker 1: So just go through this NC South you get no Jags,
Speaker 1: don't Uh, Texans have will Fuller but he can but
Speaker 1: he can fly. Um, listen that one. But listen, let's
Speaker 1: more questions. Yeah, he needs to go more questions. I
Speaker 1: don't want to go all right at metal World crazy
Speaker 1: as the next one. Why is Masselli such a Debbie Downer?
Speaker 1: Is he not excited about Trevor Lawrence because he went
Speaker 1: to Clemson or not USC who's not I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: I'm just not like, I'm not ready to uh start
Speaker 1: up the parade for the super Bowl and get the
Speaker 1: super Bowl route all playing out like Prisco. That's all
Speaker 1: in the next ten years. You got ten years. I'm
Speaker 1: excited about him. I'm just saying, if you look at
Speaker 1: the numbers, like everything's about data analytics, if you go
Speaker 1: run the analytics a first round draft pick that we're quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: it's a coin flip whether they work out or not. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: But if you run the analytics on the first round
Speaker 1: can't miss guys, there's not John l a Uh, Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Although Peyton Manning, I'll give you this, a
Speaker 1: lot of people like Ryan Leaf in that draft. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say everyone said Ryan Leaf was can't miss either.
Speaker 1: How that works? Okay, But but if you're getting the knucklehead,
Speaker 1: he's gonna miss no matter how good you are. Well,
Speaker 1: that's my point. And I don't think I I listen,
Speaker 1: I think headline for selling no he's not. I think
Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence is a superstar. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: it's more than just that here. You want to know
Speaker 1: what's just as important as getting the quarterback, Pete, did
Speaker 1: you better get the GM and the coach right and
Speaker 1: had the right culture in that building. Did you think
Speaker 1: Jamacus Russell was a can't miss when he came out?
Speaker 1: Did you think Vince Young was can't miss when he
Speaker 1: came out. No. Did you think Matt Liner was can't
Speaker 1: miss when he came out? No, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's different. None of the first round picks of jaguarris
Speaker 1: picked were first round the quarterbacks or can't missrs. No, No,
Speaker 1: I agree, Pete. I think Trevor Lawrence is will be great.
Speaker 1: I just my only point was if you look at
Speaker 1: the numbers of quarterbacks top picked in the top ten,
Speaker 1: it's a coin flip. If he if he's what we
Speaker 1: think he is, should they win a Super Bowl in
Speaker 1: the next ten years? Yes? Absolutely. But I'll say this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to what I just said because
Speaker 1: you didn't respond. You better get the head coaching in GM, right,
Speaker 1: I'd better have the right culture. Otherwise that kid will
Speaker 1: not be successful. He will not be successful if you
Speaker 1: don't have right culture. I agree with you, and that
Speaker 1: is a fact. Our next question from that Leland de Meat.
Speaker 1: Now that we've secured the first overall pick, does Peter
Speaker 1: Tony have any thoughts on who we will take first overall?
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. Actual question is do they think we
Speaker 1: could trade Gardner for a fourth or fifth? And if
Speaker 1: we can should we love the show? I don't think
Speaker 1: I turkey sandwich, throwing a sub. Maybe some bucket of
Speaker 1: chicken and pizza. Get your Gardner Minshew? Anything for him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if you've got anything for governments.
Speaker 1: What was the tweet earlier? Was it today or yesterday? Pete?
Speaker 1: You commented on like NFL and CBS had something about, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll read it. I think that analytics and said it
Speaker 1: said basically, is Gardner getting a fair shake or something
Speaker 1: to that effect. Yeah, And I looked it up. All
Speaker 1: these numbers. I dispute my own I dispute my own place.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I'll do. Let me break was a
Speaker 1: sports looked? It was interesting because I could I could
Speaker 1: hear Pete through the tweet just in my ears. I
Speaker 1: saw there was this morning. I'm like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah, obviously a lot of those numbers are
Speaker 1: in moments when the Jaguars are down in football games.
Speaker 1: You know Lawrence and he will last a lot longer
Speaker 1: than mids. You media, wow, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: But people feel the same way about Minshew if he
Speaker 1: didn't have the long hair and didn't wear the cut
Speaker 1: off jeans, and he wasn't funny, and he wasn't the
Speaker 1: whole stick. So here here, here's here's the tweet. It says,
Speaker 1: does Argumentshew deserve better this season? The Jack's current backup
Speaker 1: has more pass yards per game than Breeze and Tanny Hill,
Speaker 1: better TV the interception ratio than uh Russ and Lamar,
Speaker 1: higher QB rating than Big Ben and Kyler, and higher
Speaker 1: completion percentage than Brady and Stafford. That's the tweet. My
Speaker 1: response to that is, if you watch the tape of Breeze,
Speaker 1: Tandy Hill, Russell, Wilson, Lamar, Ben, Kyler, Brady and Stafford,
Speaker 1: would any GM on planet Earth or coach take Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew before they took those guys, Well, let's put it.
Speaker 1: Let's put it even worse. Doug Marone picked Mike Lennon
Speaker 1: over Gardner mids You think about that? No, my point
Speaker 1: and like with the tweet, because Pete, You're right. Do
Speaker 1: you think Garl do you think dun Ron wants to
Speaker 1: get fired? Do you think Doug Ron wants to lose
Speaker 1: every game? You think this coaching step isn't doing everything
Speaker 1: they possibly can to find a way to win a
Speaker 1: football game. If they thought Gardner minshe gave them a
Speaker 1: better chance of winning football games, he would be the quarterback,
Speaker 1: no question about it. I mean that's why these was
Speaker 1: it was a fun little story. Why I was going on,
Speaker 1: it's over, it's done. It wasn't good. One final question
Speaker 1: at No toes down, what are your thoughts on some
Speaker 1: of these national media members Shap and Morton send to
Speaker 1: name a couple slandering the Jags and proclaiming they shouldn't
Speaker 1: get the number one pick. Seems rather ignorant. What are
Speaker 1: they talking? And I saw those tweet and Jeremy Shaps
Speaker 1: saying they shouldn't get the number one pick because you
Speaker 1: don't reward losing. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Now,
Speaker 1: in fairness the shaft that was not a shot at
Speaker 1: Jackson because he said the same thing three weeks ago
Speaker 1: at the Jets. He says it about everybody. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: So I just want to make sure this is not
Speaker 1: Jaguar fans and national media taking a shot saying this
Speaker 1: because it's the Jaguars. There are certain people that don't
Speaker 1: don't like the drafting system the way it's set up
Speaker 1: in the NFL, which but but also Also, there were
Speaker 1: people there who We're saying that the Jaguars were tanking.
Speaker 1: This is how stupid the national media is. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: were tanking by not playing Minshew and playing Mike Glennon.
Speaker 1: That's the belief outside of this place, and anybody who's
Speaker 1: been around the building and knows everybody knows that's not
Speaker 1: the case. So so there you have it. There you
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday. J P. Shadrick, Pete, Frisco,
Speaker 1: Tony Vaselli. Let's go around. The National Football League will
Speaker 1: split it up into two different parts here. We'll start
Speaker 1: off though, we're the early games of the week. Friday,
Speaker 1: the Saints over the Vikings fifty thirty three album Camara
Speaker 1: tied Ernie Never's record with six rushing touchdowns in a game. Pete, however,
Speaker 1: you can bring Earning Never's name out, that's a story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and look he was. He's a fantastic running back. He's
Speaker 1: the perfect style back you want in this league nowadays.
Speaker 1: I had one little issue with it. Would you put
Speaker 1: him back in to get the six touchdown there at
Speaker 1: the end? Tony only I would have put him. I
Speaker 1: would have given him the ball and said pay him.
Speaker 1: Hell so you would have six before we ever got
Speaker 1: to that point. I get it, but that one late
Speaker 1: in the game wasn't a little I mean, and Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: Mike Zimber a friend. I would have Mike Zimber. I
Speaker 1: would have been unhappy if I was Mike Eximber. It's
Speaker 1: the NFL. You know what, you get paid to stop him.
Speaker 1: If you don't want him to score pie, then stop him. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the other point of that. What if he twisted
Speaker 1: his knee up on that run? That'd be a problem.
Speaker 1: On Saturday, the Bucketeers blasted the Lions to seven. You know,
Speaker 1: if I've ever I've been around this league a long time,
Speaker 1: that Lions team quit so bad. I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: It was disgusting. It was what was it at halftime?
Speaker 1: J P was what do you do something at the half?
Speaker 1: Wasn't at the half? It was zip It was amazing
Speaker 1: and I they had a part return for a part
Speaker 1: return for a touchdown. Other than that, they did nothing
Speaker 1: and they quit and Matt Stafford got hurt six yards
Speaker 1: of offense Detroit did. It was terrible. It was terrible.
Speaker 1: They're bad. They with no Matt Stafford, the Jammers might
Speaker 1: actually be able to beat that peace. Where are they
Speaker 1: gonna what are they gonna do? A GM and coach?
Speaker 1: You think? I don't know. They need they need to
Speaker 1: get They have a decision to make on Stafford. Do
Speaker 1: you keep him? I still think he's pretty good. How
Speaker 1: do too? I think he's really good. He was an
Speaker 1: number one overall pick yeah, and wanted super Bowl in
Speaker 1: a decade and ever, and everyone thought he was one
Speaker 1: of those like almost I don't know if he was
Speaker 1: as for sure as uh Andrew Luck, but he was
Speaker 1: pretty damn close. I remember him coming out like he
Speaker 1: was the dude. But he also goes back to your
Speaker 1: theory on the cult. The culture has never been good there.
Speaker 1: That's right, and that's what that's why you got have
Speaker 1: to get right. And I saw Bill brand actually tweeted
Speaker 1: out something today about Stafford, you know, people killing him,
Speaker 1: saying he's not a great quarterback. If Matt Stafford was
Speaker 1: with Andy Reid or Belichick, you know, if he was
Speaker 1: on the Steelers, on one of these great organizations, it
Speaker 1: might have been a different story about I've always thought
Speaker 1: he was underrated. I like Matt I did too, and
Speaker 1: so that that's why he goes back to my point,
Speaker 1: he better get the culture right. Just picking the quarterback
Speaker 1: isn't like And people are saying, aren't you excited? Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I want Trevor Lawrence. I think it's to
Speaker 1: be great, but you got to get the building right.
Speaker 1: But I don't think. I don't think they had four
Speaker 1: picks in the top forty four and had all that
Speaker 1: cap room. When you get it doesn't matter if you
Speaker 1: don't have the right culture where players are developed, that
Speaker 1: people want to be at your organization, and that there's
Speaker 1: there's a single message going through and there's conviction about
Speaker 1: who we are and what we're doing and how it
Speaker 1: gets done and this is how we do it, and
Speaker 1: it's coming from the GM and that coach. You have
Speaker 1: no chance. You have no chance. I get it. Two
Speaker 1: more Saturday games, the Niners over the Cardinals twelve and
Speaker 1: a big loss to the Cardinals open it up for
Speaker 1: the Bears to make a move. Yeah, but if the
Speaker 1: Cardinals win this week they're in. If the Bears lose
Speaker 1: this week, they're in. Then they play the Rams, who
Speaker 1: probably won't have Jarek Goff because the thumb injury. It
Speaker 1: looked like a really bad loss. In hindsight, it might
Speaker 1: not end up being one. Well, it's not great because now,
Speaker 1: but we'll give the Niners credit too, by the way,
Speaker 1: because that's a group that teams that teams. There you go, culture, coach, culture, quarterback,
Speaker 1: I mean GM, I mean, look at it. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at what they've done this year with without their
Speaker 1: best playering off is for most for quite a bit
Speaker 1: of the year, George Kittles without their quarterback, Garoppolo, without
Speaker 1: their best player on the whole team probably uh Nick
Speaker 1: Bosa out um no san no sman no no j
Speaker 1: award this week and running most there it's been hurt
Speaker 1: all year. Eebo Samuel has been out look at that.
Speaker 1: Look at that what they've done, and they play hard
Speaker 1: and they compete in their games. And because he's a
Speaker 1: good coach, he's a good coach, and him and Lynch
Speaker 1: are on the same page. And Lynch knows his role
Speaker 1: and he builds the team and gets players based on
Speaker 1: what that guy wants to do and how he wants
Speaker 1: to call offense and how roberts All wants to play defense.
Speaker 1: And he gets the right guys and they have the
Speaker 1: right culture and you can see it. I remember being
Speaker 1: around the last You're at the Super Bowl Pea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you can just feel it within the organization.
Speaker 1: And that was an organization that was dead, that was
Speaker 1: had a terrible culture. It was going nowhere, and they
Speaker 1: were desperate. And they got two guys who are on
Speaker 1: the same page and their football guys, and they get
Speaker 1: it and they're good leaders and they're gonna be now
Speaker 1: they have a big decision. Will be interest see with
Speaker 1: him and what Shannahan Lynch do with Garoppolo after this year.
Speaker 1: Let's take a time out. We got one more Saturday
Speaker 1: game to get to. We'll get to all the rest
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Speaker 1: Happy our JP Shadrick, Pete Priscoe, Tony Baselli. We finish
Speaker 1: our look around the National Football League in Week sixteen
Speaker 1: quickly Saturday, the Dolphins over the Raiders one of the
Speaker 1: wildest final four minute stretches you'll see. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: mean it was crazy. What do you do? I think
Speaker 1: the Raiders messed that up. At the end of the game.
Speaker 1: You're trying not to score, but you should have scored
Speaker 1: on third down. That's when you should have scored. Let
Speaker 1: the clock go down and then scoring third down, and
Speaker 1: you're better off making him go get it touched down
Speaker 1: the beach here with thirty seconds or whatever it would
Speaker 1: have been, then go get a field goal with seventeen.
Speaker 1: That was dumb. Oh we've lost Tony. Tony's muted again.
Speaker 1: That's never That's never a bad thing. I wish we
Speaker 1: had control that all the time. We're finishing strong, just
Speaker 1: like the Jags will be this week. Yeah. Man, But
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna kill Gruden for it. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: trying to You're trying to win it the last second.
Speaker 1: I mean you kicking in one play, got all the
Speaker 1: way down there in the rep of the path. I
Speaker 1: mean everything had to go wrong for you. Well, and
Speaker 1: again everything's gonna have to go wrong. Didn't lose the
Speaker 1: other way too. Yeah, I mean, I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1: I don't know, almost the exact same time. There was
Speaker 1: a bowl game on that day, a good one to
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina was playing Liberty. Did you see what happened
Speaker 1: at the end of that game? The running back tried
Speaker 1: to prevent himself from scoring to try and bird more clock,
Speaker 1: and the alignman somehow stumbled onto him and he fumbled
Speaker 1: into the end zone. The team recover, go get your
Speaker 1: point point. Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying, Pete,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna kill Gruden for it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not a bad, uh strategic call. It wasn't know
Speaker 1: that the call isn't bad. But if you're gonna if
Speaker 1: you want to burn clock, burn clock and then and
Speaker 1: then take it down and then score on the third down,
Speaker 1: not don't score right away. I get that you didn't
Speaker 1: have to go to score a third And the other
Speaker 1: thing is the penalty actually hurt them. Remember they jumped
Speaker 1: off sides and opens the game of first down. That
Speaker 1: stopped the clock. Otherwise they would have to use the
Speaker 1: time out if they got that first down. So it
Speaker 1: was interesting. I don't know I would have scored on
Speaker 1: third down. Bengals over the Texans thirty one. We'll stay
Speaker 1: away from that game. The Chiefs over the j He
Speaker 1: didn't right, he's right about players play go play. I
Speaker 1: liked it. I actually like this comment. Yeah. J. G.
Speaker 1: Watt and then the Chiefs of the Falcons and who
Speaker 1: msed a field goal? He had made seven straight until
Speaker 1: he didn't. And by the way, earlier on the drive
Speaker 1: when the Chiefs went ahead, A J. Terrell had an
Speaker 1: interception in the end zone and he dropped it. They
Speaker 1: would have won that game. The Chiefs haven't looked like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs recently. You just have what they you know
Speaker 1: what they do. They win. I know they haven't looked
Speaker 1: and you know what, they haven't looked that good recently,
Speaker 1: but they turn it on whenever they want. They have
Speaker 1: a buy in the play off, but they haven't looked
Speaker 1: as good. What do you do this week? Beat? If
Speaker 1: you're Andy Reid, you have the body of everyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you worry about having two weeks off and getting
Speaker 1: me resting that opening playoff? No? No, no, borderline and
Speaker 1: sid speaking of a team that didn't look like themselves
Speaker 1: for a few weeks of Pittsburgh Steelers rallied back. The
Speaker 1: Colts blew it yesterday. I think the design of their
Speaker 1: offense is awful because they were forced to have to
Speaker 1: throw the ball fast and down the field in the
Speaker 1: second half, and they did it all those crossing routes.
Speaker 1: They run those little three yard four yard crossing routes.
Speaker 1: I think the design of the offense. You mentioned Deante Johnson,
Speaker 1: he can go, let him go. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: big choke job by the Colts. By the way, we
Speaker 1: had a good defense. You're supposed to win that, you guys,
Speaker 1: you can't give up, especially against an offense you've been struggling.
Speaker 1: And you're right. The reason they run those little crossing
Speaker 1: routes and all that short passing because that's their run game,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's been right. Pete. He looked
Speaker 1: good at the second half yesterday. He did. I mean so,
Speaker 1: but if that's the case, why aren't they pressing the
Speaker 1: ball down the field? What with the bad design? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and it does not help well, you can't run the ball.
Speaker 1: I think the Pittsburgh or I think Pittsburgh's an early
Speaker 1: exit in the playoffs. Um, because they can't run the ball.
Speaker 1: And I think you'd rather play the Steelers. I think
Speaker 1: right now in the Ravens would Ravens are playing good
Speaker 1: football right now. Hold on to do the Steelers show
Speaker 1: up because this game doesn't mean anything that for them
Speaker 1: to make sure the Browns don't make the playoffs. Well,
Speaker 1: they can still get the two seed. Could well know
Speaker 1: if the Bengal, if the Bills win the night, they
Speaker 1: can't get the two seed. That's right. Well, the Vegas
Speaker 1: line says they're not going to show up because there's
Speaker 1: seven point underdogs. Yeah, because they might sit ben and
Speaker 1: make that there bye week. Um. So interesting charges over
Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Panthers over Washington dayne Haskins waves
Speaker 1: today by the Washington football team. Well, I mean he's
Speaker 1: not good A and he's irresponsible b. That's a good
Speaker 1: reason to wave a guy there. And my guess is
Speaker 1: if I'm able to cancel his guaranteed money because of
Speaker 1: contract conduct, conduct detrimental or some of the things he's
Speaker 1: pulled off the field, And so my guess is he's
Speaker 1: not gonna get all his guaranteed money either yeah, and
Speaker 1: by the way, Taylor Heineke came in and actually played better.
Speaker 1: Washington is alive. If they went on Saturday night against
Speaker 1: the Eagles, they're Japs. Will Alex Smith me back at quarterback? Maybe? Maybe?
Speaker 1: And it's at Philly. That's not going to be an
Speaker 1: easy game for watching. And by then you'll know who
Speaker 1: won the Dallas Giants game, and the winner of that
Speaker 1: game will be a live And then if the Eagles
Speaker 1: were to beat the Washington football team, then the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are Giants would be the division winner. Some other games,
Speaker 1: Cowboys over the Eagles seven to seven in his gross
Speaker 1: thirty seven seventeen, Seahawks beat the Rams twenty to nine,
Speaker 1: and then last night the Packers over the Titans fourteen
Speaker 1: sets up a tight week seventeen to determine the ANFC
Speaker 1: South champion. And the Titans have not won a division
Speaker 1: since oh eight. It's hard to believe that they've just
Speaker 1: beating the Jaguars pretty bad a bunch since then. You
Speaker 1: know what's amazing is if if there wasn't that cold
Speaker 1: and snowy, Rogers would have been in a seven on
Speaker 1: seven drill. They can't run the passer at all. Nothing
Speaker 1: they give you nothing rushing the path. They're going to
Speaker 1: be an early exit team too, because they can't rush
Speaker 1: the passer. Yeah. The only thing, the only chance to
Speaker 1: uh Titan to do have. You know, Derrick Henry gets
Speaker 1: it going and they shortened the game and they're just
Speaker 1: controlling it running the ball with him. Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's how they can stay in games. It's their only
Speaker 1: chance because you're right, Pet there, they're working. But I
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think that's working against Kansas
Speaker 1: City though we saw that in the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1: They got a good lead, they were running. But they're
Speaker 1: not gonna play Kansas City vers No, they'll play there.
Speaker 1: There will be the four seats the Yeah, they'll be
Speaker 1: the four seas. Ye all. For the final Monday night
Speaker 1: football preview of the season, it's an an FC East
Speaker 1: Division battle that doesn't matter much at all. The division
Speaker 1: champion Buffalo Bills at eleven and three and the eliminated
Speaker 1: New England Patriots at six and eight. Who you got
Speaker 1: in Foxborough? Buffalo? Quick think Buffalo will win this game.
Speaker 1: I think that Josh Allen has a big day. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Bill pictures are very good. Um. Next week
Speaker 1: is our final show? Right, Yes it is one more
Speaker 1: week to go. I got to remind the audience, yes,
Speaker 1: we'll see you then, Pete Briscoe, Tony Wasseli, JP Shadick,
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