WEBVTT - Charlie Weis's Millions (5/18/2017)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal coll that for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan and.

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<v Speaker 3>Tie welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Ty Hildenbrand joining me over there, beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>New York City. Still a bachelor another week and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>His name is Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good, Ty. The sun is it's the warmest

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<v Speaker 2>day in a long time out right now, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think all right out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's feeling good. We used to celebrate skirt Day.

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<v Speaker 2>But now that we are mature adults at old maure adults, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>enthusiastically as we did in like two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 2>life is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Ty, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>We did bathroom medicit last week. Yeah, solidverbal dot com

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<v Speaker 2>Espanation dot com. I want to associate espionation dot com

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<v Speaker 2>with our decision to talk bathroom Meticut for forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Not much in the way of news.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's me, but you know what, Ty, I still

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<v Speaker 2>think we can have a conversation about college football and beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>We can so the show last week actually went over. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I was surprised by that. I didn't know how that

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<v Speaker 3>would go over, but the content seemed to resonate. We

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<v Speaker 3>actually got a bunch of follow up emails from folks

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<v Speaker 3>who have their own situations that I'm sure at some

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<v Speaker 3>point we'll get into and discuss a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you say the listeners metabolized it nicely, Its digested well.

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<v Speaker 3>It agreed with people more than I expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. I felt like they looked at it as a

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<v Speaker 2>regular thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But as you know, you can find us iTunes, dot com,

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<v Speaker 3>soliverbal if you want to subscribe now, and what they're

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<v Speaker 3>calling Apple Podcasts Dan also on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all

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<v Speaker 3>the normal social media hotspots. Okay, yeah, full disclosure, and

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<v Speaker 3>I told you this. We're all friends here. I woke

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<v Speaker 3>up from a four minute nap that's great, about eight

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<v Speaker 3>minutes ago, so I'm still quasi in that waking state

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<v Speaker 3>of things. Don't draw attention to it, Ty, You're strong.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually have no idea what this show is about today.

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<v Speaker 3>You put yourself in charge of I did putting this

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<v Speaker 3>show's content together. I am coming at this cold off

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<v Speaker 3>the bench. If it shows, I apologize in advance, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to talk college football. I'm assuming that's what

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be doing today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sort of, Yeah, yeah, we have some college football

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<v Speaker 2>things to discuss. I mean, there's recruiting things happening all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place. Ohio State keeps getting big recruits. There's

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<v Speaker 2>some proposed rule changes with letting red shirts perhaps play

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<v Speaker 2>up to four games, including a bowl game, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think makes pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Stun like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that if most, if not all bowl

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<v Speaker 2>traditional bowl games, non playoff games are exhibition ish, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see a problem in seeing what you know a

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<v Speaker 2>red shirt freshman quarterback can do against a live defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that seems reasonable enough. There have been discussions

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<v Speaker 2>about adding assistant coaches and defining better defining assistant coaches

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<v Speaker 2>in the wake of so many schools using analysts to

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<v Speaker 2>help out with things behind the sort of.

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<v Speaker 3>A backdoor assistant coach type rule. Have they done anything

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<v Speaker 3>about targeting?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not seen anything about targeting, which doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>it hasn't happened. But I'm getting married in a week

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<v Speaker 2>and a half time. I gotta tell you, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot of targeting stuff, not focused on targeting,

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<v Speaker 2>right okay, but here to me is the story of stories,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not a news story, but it is the

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<v Speaker 2>completion of an ongoing story for a long time. I

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of pleasure out of Settle make Settle,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of g rated pleasure out of making fun

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<v Speaker 2>of and poking at at Charlie Weiss and noted as

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<v Speaker 2>did I, yes, so I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read there was a Charlie Weiss.

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<v Speaker 2>Feature I think in ESPN a year or two ago

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<v Speaker 2>about like what he's been up to these past few

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<v Speaker 2>years since leaving Kansas.

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<v Speaker 3>He's living the American dream.

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<v Speaker 2>He is doing, you know, it's it's not necessarily his doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be a really good agent. But he has

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<v Speaker 2>made so much money not doing all that much. I

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<v Speaker 2>think in his career as a head coach he has

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<v Speaker 2>made something like sixty four million dollars sounds about right,

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<v Speaker 2>including the buyouts, So including the buyouts from Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>in Kansas. He was only at Florida, I believe for

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<v Speaker 2>a year, but as a head coach, buyout salary sixty

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<v Speaker 2>four million dollars, and most importantly, I think the final

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<v Speaker 2>number with Notre Dame, which they paid out over a

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<v Speaker 2>certain number of years was something like nineteen million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that sound right, yep, which is also roughly the

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<v Speaker 2>NBC deal A year of the NBC deal, So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that worked out in some sort of way.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's time, upon further reflection, to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of celebrate the genius of the Charlie Weiss operation of

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<v Speaker 2>being on an up but mostly down head coach. He

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<v Speaker 2>did have a couple of years there that you were

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<v Speaker 2>excited about him as your head coach two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>five and six.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're high times now if I remember correctly. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is really testing the limits of my brain here

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<v Speaker 3>after awaking from a short slumber. But I believe he

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<v Speaker 3>lost both the Fiesta and Sugar Bowls in his first

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<v Speaker 3>two seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But year one I.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe went nine and three, Year two ten and three.

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<v Speaker 3>The first two years were what doomed him because ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>he set the bar so high that the only way

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<v Speaker 3>he could continue to kind of cap sure that mystique

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<v Speaker 3>was to keep winning more games. And he recruited well, right,

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<v Speaker 3>He recruited well at skill positions, right, But where he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't recruit well or in the trenches defensively, he couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>put together a full team schematically on offense, it was

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<v Speaker 3>it was all okay defense, he could never get it together.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it was seven. I'm looking at it now,

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<v Speaker 3>oh seven, Yes, went three and nine, eight, seven and six,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and nine, six and six. So from that

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<v Speaker 3>ten to three season on it was sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>downward spiral. He couldn't recapture that magic and that was

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately his undoing. So yeah, it was an interesting little

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<v Speaker 3>run there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that because when he was at Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 2>people enjoyed making fun of him. In Notre Dame, the

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<v Speaker 2>decided schematic advantage, the fact that he was like this

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<v Speaker 2>NFL guy who tutored Tom Brady's a Bill Belichick guy

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<v Speaker 2>coming to college and he's going to you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a revolutionize, but he's going to dominate all the

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<v Speaker 2>resources of Notre Dame. And so he is this figure

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<v Speaker 2>that is sort of made fun of and everybody liked

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<v Speaker 2>it when Notre Dame was failing under him. And then

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<v Speaker 2>everything sort of shifts when he's done coaching Florida Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was with Kansas City one year, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then goes to Kansas and everything sort of shifts

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<v Speaker 2>and now he's sort of appreciated in a very strange

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<v Speaker 2>way for getting all of this money from Notre Dame especially,

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<v Speaker 2>but also Kansas. Do you think there is another or

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<v Speaker 2>even an active school and coaching situation that is currently

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<v Speaker 2>sort of hated that could be turned into a positive

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<v Speaker 2>thing because the coach seemed to get so much money

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<v Speaker 2>out of them as Oh my god, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think I think it's like a perfect storm.

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<v Speaker 3>People definitely still look at that situation and get the

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<v Speaker 3>warm fuzzies thinking about what Weiss was able to pull

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<v Speaker 3>off just as a employee, but as a coach. Conversation goes,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where else you could try and even

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<v Speaker 3>compare that type of situation. Has anything come to mind

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<v Speaker 3>for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there are certain coaches, I think and schools that

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<v Speaker 2>are naturally disliked outside of those schools. So like Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Harbaugh and Michigan people seem to like rooting against Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>on a certain level because of the Michigan man thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the sort of looking down factor that

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan people have the reputation of, and Jim Harbaugh coming

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<v Speaker 2>in from the NFL and you know, demanding all of

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<v Speaker 2>this attention, with all of his you know, supposed antics whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it would be necessarily justified in

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<v Speaker 2>him getting paid a ton of money because he did

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish a ton in the NFL and in college with Stanford.

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<v Speaker 3>So ultimately, what you're talking about then is you're asking me,

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<v Speaker 3>is there another wise situation out there?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there somebody who is generally viewed negatively at a

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<v Speaker 2>school that is generally viewed negatively that if he were

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<v Speaker 2>able to extract a good amount of money as a buyout,

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<v Speaker 2>he would looked at he would be looked at as favorably.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is also to say, people that we know

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<v Speaker 2>and that we've read, who have spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time with Charlie Weiss think he's like a hilarious, sarcastic,

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<v Speaker 2>likable dude, right right, And just being an arrogant coach

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<v Speaker 2>does not prevent you from being also sarcastic and likable

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<v Speaker 2>outside of football. So I sort of appreciate that. And

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<v Speaker 2>there was like the story a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>that every year when they get the check from Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 2>it's generally it was like Christmas Eve or something like

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<v Speaker 2>that that they would have like a really nice dinner

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<v Speaker 2>him and his wife or him and his family, and

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<v Speaker 2>they would toast a Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean there's definitely a quality to it where

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<v Speaker 3>he can play both sides of the coin, the whole

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame aspect, and his mannerisms while he was there,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, represented all the reasons why people don't

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<v Speaker 3>like Notre Dame. Now that he's out, now that he's

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<v Speaker 3>living off the lamb essentially and still getting paid or

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<v Speaker 3>was still getting paid, I think it's like a last

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<v Speaker 3>shot at Notre Dame that people can really hit their

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<v Speaker 3>wagons to and get a smile out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's you know, Urban Meyer is somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>unlikable to people around successful.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Saban obviously is unlikable, has been extremely successful. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there's anybody who has a personality that right

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat rubbed people the wrong way fair, not

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<v Speaker 2>at a place that people like rooting against. I would

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<v Speaker 2>say the closest that we had perhaps come to it

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<v Speaker 2>until he succeeded on a big level, which only made

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<v Speaker 2>people dislike him even more outside was Pete Carroll at USC.

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<v Speaker 2>People in the SEC, well, people that rooted for SEC

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<v Speaker 2>teams and root for SEC teams hated Pete Carroll at USC.

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<v Speaker 3>Carol's won.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would say this just with Pete Carroll. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>LSU fans hated USC and Pete Carroll Alabama, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the fans in the SEC of the big schools.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there was a deep seated almost jealousy

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<v Speaker 2>that their sport, you know, the South and college football

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<v Speaker 2>was being played on as high a level in Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 2>by the beach and getting you know, all these celebrities

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<v Speaker 2>on the sideline. Their sport was being co opted and

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<v Speaker 2>made to be so much more fun by this fun coach,

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<v Speaker 2>and that just brought it out of them. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he as a person was nearly as unlikable

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<v Speaker 2>publicly as Charlie weis.

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<v Speaker 3>On a much much smaller scale. Yeah, there was a

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<v Speaker 3>hint of that before last season. As it relates to

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<v Speaker 3>James Franklin. James Franklin, I mean you're more local to that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>more local. Like I said, it's more of a hyper

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<v Speaker 3>local scenario. Yeah, but Franklin is so counter to the

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<v Speaker 3>past fifty years of Penn State football and Certainly during

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<v Speaker 3>the Christian Hackenberg era, the way that went down, it

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<v Speaker 3>did not look promising. Twenty sixteen obviously turned things around.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a lot more slack now and people have

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<v Speaker 3>definitely bought more into his system. But through the first

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<v Speaker 3>two years, at least the way things played out on

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<v Speaker 3>pen Live comment threads and message boards, people were very

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<v Speaker 3>down on James Franklin, and there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>folks who wanted to see him out as football coach

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<v Speaker 3>and thought maybe he was stealing money from the program, right, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, wow, tough question.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>People from Pennsylvania recognize how difficult it is to win

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<v Speaker 2>nine games at Vanderbilt.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they don't. They don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's absolutely not. No, you're right, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really don't see a scenario that at all

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<v Speaker 2>compares to Because Brian Kelly is not super liked. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say it's fair to say he blames other people

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<v Speaker 2>at times for perhaps things he should take.

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<v Speaker 3>He has unlikable qualities, but he has had far far

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<v Speaker 3>more success at the college level than Weiss ever did.

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<v Speaker 1>True.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's just had more years and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>came up through the college level but yeah, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to think of Brian Kelly right now. So let's say

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<v Speaker 2>burns out, you know, the Notre Dame goes seven to

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<v Speaker 2>five and that's just not good enough this fall and

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get hired by an NFL team, takes another job,

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<v Speaker 2>you know who knows where it, like Pitt or something

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<v Speaker 2>in three years and is fine but nothing special. But

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<v Speaker 2>it comes out that part of his buyout with Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame is Charlie Weiss esque. Do you think people have

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<v Speaker 2>that same reaction now? I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. Weiss was such a different scenario because he

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<v Speaker 3>was almost build being a Notre Dame grad, he was

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<v Speaker 3>buildings like the savior for the program, right. Brian Kelly

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<v Speaker 3>came in at a time where they they needed someone

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<v Speaker 3>to stabilize the ship and rebuild from the ground up.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was never billed at the savior. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he was billed more as the guy who wanted the

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<v Speaker 3>job the most right and someone who came in who

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<v Speaker 3>was a solid coach at the college level, who could

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<v Speaker 3>come in and make a difference. But there's just nothing

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<v Speaker 3>in my mind that compares. There are plenty of scenarios

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<v Speaker 3>out there where I think a fan base, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone outside of a fan base might root for a

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Horball, like you said, to fail for their own

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<v Speaker 3>personal reasons, but nothing to the Weis's extent.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair and Charlie West he is in Florida, just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of hanging out.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe so at this point, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you and I listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to give anything away as for your

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<v Speaker 2>day job, but I think it's fair to say that

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<v Speaker 2>your day job is not a job in which you

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<v Speaker 2>will be coming into nineteen million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably probably not. I don't know what the bonus situation

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be this coming year, but no sure

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<v Speaker 3>signs would point to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you thought about what you'd spend that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lump sum on?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if we go the super Troopers route, I'd buy

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<v Speaker 3>a nineteen million dollar car. Otherwise, Wow, nineteen million is.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what I'm going to say. You can't spread

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<v Speaker 2>it over anything. So I'm going to say, like you

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<v Speaker 2>have to, you can buy a nineteen million dollar house,

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<v Speaker 2>which is pretty tough to do in Allentown.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done the right.

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<v Speaker 3>I could buy the city of Allentown for nineteen million.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know how many I did the research. How

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<v Speaker 2>many homes in Allentown are currently listed? I looked on

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of different real estate sites for more than

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<v Speaker 2>one million.

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<v Speaker 3>Dollars in in Allentown.

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<v Speaker 2>In Allentown, on a couple different sites, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>use Zillo.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty zero okay, there is a super nice house listened

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<v Speaker 2>for like nine to fifty Okay. So I tried to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how you could spend nineteen million dollars in Allentown.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>I could buy every Yakos, Yeah you could.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's you could buy like every apartment building in

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<v Speaker 2>the greater Lehigh Valley, and you probably wouldn't get to

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen million. But I looked it up, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>were to, so you have to by land. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty acres for like a million and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, just not that much, all things considered. Million

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<v Speaker 2>and a half, you buy your million dollar house, nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty five thousand, whatever, you buy one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty acres. I looked up how much it would

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<v Speaker 2>cost to build a water park, not for yourself overall,

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<v Speaker 2>like major major slides, tie commercial slides for like one

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<v Speaker 2>of those slides that has four different like tunnels and

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<v Speaker 2>outlets and a pool and.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lazy, you're talking, you're talking. Oh yeah, all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things. The upper level that has multiple slides in

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<v Speaker 2>the same structure is about ninety grand. Oh wow, So

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have if you bought twenty five of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and just built a mega built a mega water park

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<v Speaker 2>and discounting insurance and you know all the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>goes along with and employees and everything. But you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the better part of like five million dollars for

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<v Speaker 2>the land.

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<v Speaker 3>You could build an ARC for nineteen million here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well you can, only it's only like five million.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd have to become a water park baron.

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<v Speaker 3>There's already a water park here though. That's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Dorney Park and Wildwater Kingdom? Do you think it could

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<v Speaker 3>be improved upon? I don't know. I haven't been there

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<v Speaker 3>since I was like eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a water park person?

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<v Speaker 3>Generally speaking? I am. Yeah, I'm more water park than

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<v Speaker 3>I am you know, just general theme park.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. Do you wear like the water socks?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been a water park and wadeck with socks

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm going to a wedding in Palm Springs camera

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<v Speaker 2>guy Dave's wedding, Okay, in the middle of December, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a really good water park. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be too cold, but it is very I looked

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<v Speaker 2>up what nineteen million dollars gets you in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>We've done this experiment with another price point in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be like a two bedroom apartment, wouldn't it

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<v Speaker 2>You can do You can do better than a two

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom apartment. You can move into an old I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>send this to you right now, Ty. Yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 2>move into the old police station or police headquarter like

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<v Speaker 2>the Ghostbusters. Click that link I just sent you and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me what you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a six bedroom place. It's pretty huge.

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<v Speaker 2>You can get an ocean front property in Laguna Beach,

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<v Speaker 2>which I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like you have ties to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Get a year of Eli Manning's time and efforts. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's attractive. You can get a Gulf

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<v Speaker 2>Stream G two eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>Again we're talking about for Charlie Weiss's Yes, earnings here nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't I can't accept you saying well, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>get a house here, I'd get a house there. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>get a house here, I get these cars. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking lump almost like Brewsters millions and one shot purchase.

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<v Speaker 3>The boring answer would be to buy some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like business that you think is going to do well,

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<v Speaker 3>something that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can Okay, So what kind of business do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you could go into and succeed within?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean my skills are pretty limited, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you buying like thirty thirty Hardy's.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a nineteen million dollar podcasting building out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's really all I know at this stage in life? Fair?

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<v Speaker 3>Could we buy the Shutdown full cast for nineteen million?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, we could buy fifty Shutdown full casts.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I go first class in like the craziest

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<v Speaker 2>ways around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you buy a jet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you can buy a lear jet. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that takes you across.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's here's the thing. I flew Private once.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never flown private.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me tell you, Dan, I flew it once,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is definitely the first thing I'd do if

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<v Speaker 3>I came into a gazillion dollars right, because the experience

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<v Speaker 3>just doesn't compare to the commercial experience. It's way way better.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of people I know who would

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<v Speaker 3>buy a boat, right. The problem for me is I

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<v Speaker 3>don't live near water, So nineteen million dollars for me

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<v Speaker 3>not so much. Are there any websites worth nineteen million

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<v Speaker 3>that we could buy and like bolt onto solid verbal

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<v Speaker 3>dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we could buy Netscape. Yeah, the rights

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<v Speaker 2>to Netscape for nineteen million dollars. This is a very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult busz this oriented question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would just first class around the world

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<v Speaker 2>for I mean first class. By that, I mean like

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<v Speaker 2>flying private around the world, going to different places for

0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 2>like a full year. Okay, and just spend it like crazy. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie White, it's not doing that. No, what's he doing?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're just hanging out in Florida. I have

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<v Speaker 2>the list.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, the estimated mortgage for this home you

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<v Speaker 3>sent me is sixty eight thousand dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not bad, right, Yeah, Okay, Okay, So I

0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 2>have a list of and this has been it hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been updated since all of the college football coaches where

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:38.480
<v Speaker 2>data is available, tax data whatever. So the amount of

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.760
<v Speaker 2>their buyouts of these college football coaches. For example, Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Saban is listed here as twenty three point two million dollars,

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 2>but he just signed some sort of extension recently and

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<v Speaker 2>got a crazy raise, so I don't think it's reflected

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<v Speaker 2>in the numbers. So I'm going to give you numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm obviously going to tell you where they coach.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have to tell me what is the most

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<v Speaker 2>attractive combination of number and you know expense and you

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<v Speaker 2>know the pleasure of living in this place, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you can get You can get twenty three million

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.920
<v Speaker 2>dollars and live in Tuscaloosa, Okay. You get fourteen million

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 2>dollars in Phoenix, fifteen million dollars in Fayetteville, eight million

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:19.240
<v Speaker 2>dollars in Auburn. You can get twenty million dollars in Clemson,

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, Greenville area. You can get nine million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in Gainesville, thirty three million dollars in Tallahassee, six million

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<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta, six million in Houston, nineteen million dollars in Champagne, Illinois,

0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty five million dollars in Iowa City. Just stop me

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.320
<v Speaker 2>when something sounds really attractive to you. Lexington, Kentucky and

0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:46.879
<v Speaker 2>fourteen million dollars Louisville and thirteen million and Arborn twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Phoenix and fourteen that's not bad. That's the one

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:56.400
<v Speaker 2>that that's the one that's resonating right now. Yeah, Phoenix

0:21:56.440 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 2>has secretly bad people like a it's not a great

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<v Speaker 2>like populous. I would say it's super young with college kids, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a market. We have a market in Phoenix. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I love I love the locals, but people you get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like New York and Chicago trash ending

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<v Speaker 2>up in Phoenix. Lincoln, Nebraska and six million dollars. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is under the presumption that you have to stay

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.480
<v Speaker 2>here Norman, Oklahoma. Bob Soup is already trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of Norman, Oklahoma. I think he just

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:28.800
<v Speaker 2>bought five million dollars of real estate in Chicago, Columbus,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio and twenty seven million dollars. I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>scroll down to the the letter you. UCLA will give

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<v Speaker 2>you fifteen million dollars, and USC is not on here

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a private school. I think that's the move.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't go as far though, fifteen million dollars in LA.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my question to you. Sixteen million in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not bad. Here's my question to you, please tomorrow,

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 3>you get nineteen million dollars. You're a successful to some

0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 3>degree college football coach, successful enough to get an eight

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 3>figure buyout, right, right? Are you working another day in

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:11.640
<v Speaker 3>your life? I think I'm only doing what I want

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.679
<v Speaker 3>to do. I think that goes without saying. So if

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting nineteen million dollars, and are we presuming taxes? Sure?

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm getting nineteen million dollars and there's a

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.400
<v Speaker 2>good chance I'm either going to live in New York

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 2>or LA. I'm from LA. I currently live in New York,

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 2>which doesn't go particularly far if you are going to

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 2>be very wealthy. That's like a nice lunch in New York, Right,

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 2>it's exactly right. No, I'd probably move somewhere else. Yes,

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I would work, but like two days a week doing

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<v Speaker 2>what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do two shows a week instead of one.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you working now? How are you spending your time?

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<v Speaker 3>Ty? No, I don't know. I need structure, though, I

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<v Speaker 3>know that, Okay, I need some kind of structure otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>I come off the rails. But I need something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's the way maybe two shows a week would

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<v Speaker 3>do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen it's only been up for like a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen any of the new season and Master

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<v Speaker 2>of None?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think I would do. This maybrobably the problem,

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<v Speaker 2>and I put the problem in quotes, but the difficulty

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<v Speaker 2>in Have you seen the first season A Master?

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen most of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So when the second season opens up, he's

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<v Speaker 2>living in Italy learning how to make pasta.

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<v Speaker 1>That's his life.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just hanging out in Italy learning how to make

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<v Speaker 2>pasta because he wants.

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<v Speaker 3>To, because he wants to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you to me, so is hess are even in

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<v Speaker 2>real life, has gone to Italy to just like learn

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<v Speaker 2>how to make pasta and just get away from it all.

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<v Speaker 3>I am told by some friends who are very active

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<v Speaker 3>in the podcasting world that there's a guy who started

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<v Speaker 3>a knitting podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>A knitting podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Knitting podcast. He had no level of knowledge whatsoever on knitting,

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<v Speaker 3>but he started a podcast and he got very.

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<v Speaker 1>Post This is his adventure learning to knit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he got very popular in the knitting world, believe it,

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<v Speaker 3>the knitting counterculture right, so much so that he now

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<v Speaker 3>makes a living going to knitting conferences and running his

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<v Speaker 3>knitting podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it's true. I heard it from a credible source.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, just to reiterate, I did minimal preparation for

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<v Speaker 3>the show. I didn't know what we're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>talking about. But right, the point here being animal, if

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<v Speaker 3>you find an adventure learning situation, you've already got the

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<v Speaker 3>podcasting component.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Perhaps there is the Dan Rubinstein knitting, the Ty Rubinstein

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<v Speaker 3>knitting equivalent out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm, did you call yourself Ty Rubinstein?

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<v Speaker 3>I mighto. I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you did.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but you get the point, right, mm hmm. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>could I start a space podcast? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the knitting thing because that feels like a

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<v Speaker 2>space that's not really super invited.

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<v Speaker 3>The conferences they pay him money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, God, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>If we could do a show where we talk nothing

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<v Speaker 3>about sports, that'd be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're sort of already going in that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the whole second half of the show is

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<v Speaker 3>really a tryout for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd go to Japan, Okay, I would just hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>in Japan for like three months.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about how your suit is going

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<v Speaker 3>to fit you at your wedding. Oh my god perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't because what are you doing with your life?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get an Indo Chino suit. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>lex Yeah, for my wedding and he couldn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>He has to wear a black suit. I'm not wearing black,

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<v Speaker 2>he has to wear a black suit. And we ended

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<v Speaker 1>But then you go to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want it poorly cut up. That price point is great,

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<v Speaker 2>like a good custom fit, not custom, but good like

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<v Speaker 2>is an outstanding price point.

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<v Speaker 3>True story here. When I was doing the research trying

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<v Speaker 3>to find suits for my groomsmen, now you know I

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<v Speaker 3>had a fairly big bridal party. Yeah, in my situation,

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<v Speaker 3>I looked into custom suits for the guys. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted something that they could use. I had

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<v Speaker 3>no idea how much that kind of thing actually costs,

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<v Speaker 3>and I did at one point talk to a custom

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<v Speaker 3>tailor that's rough Man, who told me it would be

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere in the vicinity of like eight to nine to

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<v Speaker 3>one thousand dollars per suit. And I'm like, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>my cousin can't afford like that's like a month's rent.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, So three seventy nine is a good price.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, fair enough. So you were saying, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about investing ty and we are. God, it's

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<v Speaker 2>mid May, so we have June, July, August, and half

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>of May until football season starts. We have about three and

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>a half months. So in front of me, I have

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<v Speaker 2>every team that won fewer than five games within a

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<v Speaker 2>Power five conference. Oh boy, So the exercise I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to do with you, and we can't select our own

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>dumb teams that each won four games. We can select

0:29:59.920 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the each others, but we can't select our own. So

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see which of us because we got

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<v Speaker 2>an email I apologize for having in front of me

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<v Speaker 2>right now. We got an email from somebody who is

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<v Speaker 2>swearing up and down that the cursive tie is so real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you loved ole miss.

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<v Speaker 2>They immediately everybody gets hurt, they have a bad season,

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<v Speaker 2>they're under investigation, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>The cursive tie is very real. I have it in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you.

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<v Speaker 3>I can read it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, instead of you believing in teams that are

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good and making that leap to great, which you

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>have shown year after year that you screw up, you

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 2>love Texas is still Texas. They're bad for like nine

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>straight years. Ole Miss has this giant black cloud over

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>their heads. You loved Michigan State, you love TCU, just

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 2>black cloud after black cloud that you provide over these teams.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'm doing is these teams have basically that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to list off, kind of hit rock bottom

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<v Speaker 2>or close to it in twenty sixteen. So I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>the reverse is potentially true. Okay, It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>a negative number times a negative number is a positive number.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking you're one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Negative numbers, and these teams are already in the negative

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of quality at the moment. So I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>we have an exercise. We each take three teams, and

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<v Speaker 2>so instead of you believing in a pretty good team,

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<v Speaker 2>by you believing in a bad team. Perhaps that is

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<v Speaker 2>good luck. Who is the one the person that sent

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<v Speaker 2>us the curse of time?

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<v Speaker 3>Gentleman by the name of Kyle, Thank you, Kyle, very

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 3>kind words about the show. And he goes on the

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>same ramble that you sort of did. He mentions Old Miss,

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 3>he mentions TCU, mentions even my pessimism for Penn State, right,

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 3>he said He even went so far as to pick

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 3>the opposite of his gut feeling a few weeks into

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 3>the season and picked Virginia on Oklahoma State's homecoming, which

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 3>made for a fun weekend in Stillwater. And he said,

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 3>it just seems remarkable that everything he hated turned to

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 3>gold and everything he liked turned into a turd. And

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 3>then he also throws out the Notre Dame connection, which

0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure we can give it to a little bit here.

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<v Speaker 3>But since what he's saying is what is the general

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<v Speaker 3>opinion of the tie stank and is there any validity

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 3>to the connection, I'll be the first to say, Yeah,

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 3>we joked a lot about the Notre Dame stank. But

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<v Speaker 3>I generally am a year early with teams. In old

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 3>missus case, I've been like ten years early. I want

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<v Speaker 3>all this every year. It never works out to the

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 3>point now where I'm just going to stop mentioning them altogether.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 3>But in general, I'm about a year year and a

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<v Speaker 3>half early on most of my predictions.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta tell you, Dan, nobody's stopping dexter mcluster.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeap, Nope.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the list of teams that won fewer than

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<v Speaker 2>five games in twenty sixteen, and we can't select our

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>own teams. We get three choices. We'll go back and forth.

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I will give you the first pick since this game

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<v Speaker 2>is named after you. Yeah, Syracuse, Duke and Virginia from

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the ACC, Iowa State and Kansas from the Big twelve,

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State, Rutgers, Illinois, Purdue, the Big Ten, Notre Dame,

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Oregon State, and Notre Dame is independent, but we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to bring them Oregon State, Oregon, Ucla, Arizona, Missouri.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so we're betting on what is this again?

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>So we each get to select three teams, and whichever

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the total of the wins of those three teams is higher,

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>whoever has that wins?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you went entirely too fast. They don't have any

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 3>of those team names, but okay, I'm intrigued by UCLA.

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Josh Rosen coming back healthy to me makes them a

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<v Speaker 3>contender to definitely, they should be over five hundred, right.

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 3>I think the PAC twelve is is a lot tougher

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 3>this year in my new coordinator new coordinators, but you

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<v Speaker 3>would think just by him simply coming back, they should

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 3>be significantly better. So again, I missed the full list

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 3>but Ucla is one to jump off the page to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Ucla is in the Pac twelve South.

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<v Speaker 2>Defensively, you know, you have a pretty good defense in

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Colorado and Utah USC you should have a decent defense.

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Arizona schools kind of trash Arizona State with a new defense.

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 2>So there are you know, teams to be exploited there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Ucla is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart pick there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with my first pick, I'm gonna go Notre Dame.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, explain this one to me.

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, if I'm trying to target teams that can win

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.439
<v Speaker 2>seven or eight plus games, I like Notre Dame more

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 2>than Arizona. I like Notre Dame more than Illinois per

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Douing Rutgers. I like them more than Kansas or Iowa State.

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I like them more than Syracuse Duke in Virginia. I

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>like them more than Missouri. So just by that, Notre

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Dame new coordinators sort of more difficult to prep for

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>early on in the season because you don't know exactly

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 2>what they're going to be running.

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would.

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the over under is for the

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.760
<v Speaker 2>season for Notre Dame, but realistically eight or nine wins

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem super far.

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 3>There's a little bit of poetic justice in you taking

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame after all the jokes.

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 2>Ty, I'm a smart investor. I'm a smart investor here.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 3>When the season starts a Notre Dame is no longer

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 3>four and eight, you guys over there are going to

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 3>run out of content.

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, that hurts me personally because I'm gonna lose this game.

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 3>I think Notre Dame's are really smart pick here. Notre

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Dame should be fine. Last year with some sort of

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 3>weird aberration, they might not be playoff fine, but they

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 3>should be. They should be just fine.

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm willing to make a peace with Notre Dame not

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs this coming year.

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 3>I will I will stay in the Pac twelve with

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 3>my pick, okay, and I'm gonna go Oregon. I'll go

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 3>your team. Perhaps it's an obvious selection, but I like

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Willie Taggart a lot. Defensively, they were a mess, but

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 3>there's enough talent there on offense that it feels to

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 3>me like they should be able to rebuild that situation.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 3>I feel like they'll be well positioned in the Pac

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 3>twelve North to find a way to win seven eight

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 3>games at a minimum.

0:35:54.239 --> 0:36:00.879
<v Speaker 2>In twenty sixteen, Oregon's SNP plus defensive rating was any

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 2>guess one nineteen.

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's not really good at all.

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>That's an efficiency metric, a success right metric that our

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>friends at Football Outsiders put together. Bill Connolly's part of that.

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>In twenty twelve, Oregon's S and P plus defensive rating was.

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Second. That is incredible.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>That is amazing, and it actually it just speaks that

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 2>organ It has just brought in a lot less in

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the way of defensive talent these past few years. But

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I think they're heading.

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 3>The point is there's nowhere to go but up. Correct,

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 3>there's nowhere to go but up and again. I think

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 3>the PAC twelve is going to be pretty good this year.

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 3>But I like Willie Taggert, I like the talent on offense.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 3>They're only going to get improved on defense. I'll take Oregon.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Oregon has Nebraska in Eugene, Wyoming in Laramie against an

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 2>NFL quarterback, and they miss I believe USC on the schedule.

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 2>If if I gave you an over under of seven

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and a half wins for Oregon in twenty seventeen, I'd

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 2>go over. You're happily taking the over. I'm going over here,

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 2>cautiously taking the over. Now I feel pretty good about

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 2>over Okay, be over there, all.

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Right, pick is to me, the pick is to you.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 3>And just a word of strategy. Okay, Now, there weren't

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of teams in like the SEC. Right,

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 3>the one that jumps off the pages. I think Missouri

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 3>that Wassuri you mentioned you're not gonna pick Missouri. Picking

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Missouri would be a dumb pick because you're playing the

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 3>SEC tough schedule.

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 2>So I think you're looking elsewhere. Now, maybe a recent

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>two time divisional champion, maybe acc with this pick.

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Possibly.

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I know you're trying to steer me in the direction Tie,

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 2>see you steering. Yeah, I'm going to be even though

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 2>you are steering me. I'm going to be disrespectful Tie.

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:54.879
<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna take Michigan State. Oh, I'm gonna buy

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 2>extremely low with Michigan State.

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna go Michigan State if you didn't.

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to old Michigan State.

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Not because I am a big full believer in sparty

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>moving forward, but I feel like talent wise, they have

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 2>the capability to do more than a number of these

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 2>teams on this list.

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>It's still not a great.

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Division, but they gave Michigan all they could handle for

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 2>a bit.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Last year. They were in the Rose Bowl. Recently.

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.919
<v Speaker 2>I like their coaching staff still, and I know there's

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 2>more turn I think there's more turnover at quarterback. But

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 2>even with all of that, ceiling wise, given recent history,

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going sparty. I'm looking at their schedule right now.

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes they're at Michigan, Yes they're at Ohio State. Yes

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 2>they have Penn State on their schedule, but they have

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Maryland and Rutgers. Notre Dame is at home, Iowa's at home. Western,

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Michigan's without PJ. Fleck, Bowling Green still without Dino Babers.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Road games outside of those games aren't the worst Minnesota Northwestern.

0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like we can get to eight wins

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 2>this year and that's pretty good.

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, so the pick is back to me now, huh,

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 3>pick is back to you? Wow?

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 2>So I can refresh you with teams if you I'm

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 2>looking at standings now, Okay, So I feel like I

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 2>can do this. The herd is thinning very quickly, true,

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>very quickly, among teams that we think can get to,

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, that level and as is As is the case,

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 2>tie a lot of second year turnarounds. You know, the

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 2>first year is all about establishing culture. Second year is

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>all about results, right, Arizona may have a twenty six

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.280
<v Speaker 2>year old quarterback. Oregon State has a very good running

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.720
<v Speaker 2>back and Ryan Nall Syracuse wide open system. Dino Babers

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Duke a very promising young quarterback. What do you whisp about?

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Stop talking?

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:45.439
<v Speaker 3>What do you think about? Duke?

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 2>One in seven yep in conference last year, finished four

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>and eight, recent divisional champ, recent divisional champion. I'm really

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>excited about their quarterback situation. HM Daniel Jones a a

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 2>young Romison quarterback. I remember tweets from Bruce Feldman last

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 2>year talking about how he thought there were big things

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 2>in front of him still have, I think a pretty

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 2>good coach. And David Cutcliffe someone who knows how to

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 2>coach offense. And the main factor in this pick for

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 2>me is the fact that other teams on their side

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 2>of the ACC seem like they might be in a

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit of.

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 3>A rebuilding mode. All right, let's look at who else

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 3>is on that side of the conference. With Duke, we

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 3>know that Pitt is going to be rebuilding in a

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 3>pretty big way, right. North Carolina loses their quarterback, their quarterback,

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Miami loses their quarter I like Miami this year, but

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 3>Miami loves their quarterback.

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that might be bad.

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.439
<v Speaker 3>Georgia Tech, who knows. I can never figure out. Georgia Tech.

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 3>Virginia I think is a multi year project. The only team,

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 3>for real, for real that's jumping out at me is

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Virginia Tech, and they're starting over.

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I at quarterback as well. By the way, ty on

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 2>that note, O Chared Evans drawd Evans. Yeah, leaving Virginia

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Tech earlier on a draft not a great idea.

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Not a great idea. But there's enough uncertainty in the

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 3>coastal side of the ACC that you could potentially see

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Duke cobbling together a seven win season.

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I could see and listen, Duke has has a lot

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.760
<v Speaker 2>to work on. Five and one. Heading into Florida State,

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 2>they have Northwestern, Baylor, North Carolina, Miami, North Carolina Central.

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean things break the right way at North Carolina

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 2>A Virginia I don't know. Yeah, new quarterback for Pitt,

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>new quarterback, Virginia Tech, new quarterback. Georgia Tech, Wake Forest

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>without Mike Elco. I don't think that's a bad pick.

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Tie, Yeah, okay, So those are my three. I've got UCLA,

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 3>Oregon and Duke.

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Ucla Oregon and Duke.

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Ty, I'm ready to very strong academic slate as well.

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I am ready to blow your mind. I'm gonna go

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Iowa State. Oh, good pick.

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I am buying low, I'm buying they were not all

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 2>that far off last year.

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:09.240
<v Speaker 3>Quick pick. I like that pick.

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:10.839
<v Speaker 1>You talk about four or.

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Five moments away, you know, A good game against Oklahoma,

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 2>a good game against Kansas State.

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>They blow out Texas Tech. This year.

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 2>They have Texas at home on a Thursday night. Yep,

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 2>they have Iowa at home in Alasico, Northern Iowa. They

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 2>go to Norman, they go to Lubbock, they go to Morgantown,

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 2>to Waco, to Kansas State. It's not a great road slate,

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 2>but I think with now their quarterback of the somewhat future,

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Jacob Park. I like Matt Campbell. I like the skill position.

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I like Alan Lazard. I was on the radio with

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 2>our friend Trent Condon in Des Moines earlier today. I

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 2>am hyped about the Clones. Ty, Yeah, I'm sure you

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.880
<v Speaker 2>can hear it in my voice hip hiped about the clones.

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 2>I can see Iowa stay taken home six Yeah, I like.

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I think they're might drive to six team this year.

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 2>How about that?

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 3>I like that.

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 2>So Iowa state, Notre Dame, Michigan State, mister Midwest, and.

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:18.959
<v Speaker 3>I'm mister PAC twelve. That's true, Pac twelve, And Duke,

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 3>you have good Mother's Day.

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I did.

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 3>I did his mama.

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Rube's nervous at all, A little stressed, I would say,

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 2>little stressed for the So she's handling the rehearsal dinner.

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>My dad will be there, but she's handling the rehearsal

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 2>dinner and the morning after brunch.

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 3>So this is, by the way, a big weekend for

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 3>the solid verbal coming up.

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>It is big weekend.

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:46.399
<v Speaker 3>Because there is a rehearsal feast of some sort, then

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 3>there's the actual wedding, and then there's the after wedding brunch.

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 3>All three events, the solid wife and I will be

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 3>in attendance for those. I love that very excited. I'm

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:05.800
<v Speaker 3>prepared to give a full verbal report here at some point,

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 3>either with or without you.

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>I should tell you, ty, and I'm going to present

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 2>it to you on the show because we're nothing if

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 2>not an authentic show. If you want to speak, if

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 2>you want to say some words the rehearsal dinner, you

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 2>may oh wow. I'm not asking people specifically to speak,

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 2>because that's you know, they want to speak, they can speak.

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm just telling you right now, if you'd like to

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:29.439
<v Speaker 2>say a few words, the rehearsal rabbi is looking forward

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 2>to meeting you.

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Is this so?

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>This is totally true.

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 2>We had a call with the rabbi on Sunday and

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 2>he said, is TI going to be there?

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I said, really, this is a true story. You're not

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 3>making this true? Wow?

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 2>He said, it's Ti going to be there. I said yes,

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, oh cool. I listened to some

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>of your banter. Well, you know, Dan, I didn't give

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 2>me an opinion of it. I did do the DNA

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>test I've got I got in me, so cong welcome aboard.

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.439
<v Speaker 2>There's a chance that I could fit right in there.

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 2>So do you think you will speak?

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Probably not. It is your day, It is not my day.

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 3>We don't need to play on the whole like you know,

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 3>buddy cop thing that we got going on here when

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 3>we do the show. But fair so I'd prefer to

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 3>give you the lime light.

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's reasonable. No, everything's I think everything's pretty good.

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 2>The weather's supposed to be nice.

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited. I'm really excited.

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 2>The fiance was not super keen on my idea for

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 2>what I want to do during our introduction, like for

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 2>the first time as man and wife kind of thing.

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I had it kind of sketched out. Okay, we'll see

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 2>if that happens. But no real hiccups. I got the

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 2>food's going to be great, Music's going to be great.

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. I am ready, and I'm looking forward to

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a little bit nervous for your recap.

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 3>Well you should be, because you were somewhat critical of

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 3>my music selection. I owned that was my only critique.

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.320
<v Speaker 3>You were somewhat critical, Dan, So I'm not only critique.

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.280
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, Ty, I'm not going to handle

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 3>this wedding with kid gloves. I'm going to be honest here.

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't just talk the talk. So this is a

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 2>reference to the fact that I said not a big

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 2>fan of Don't Stop Believing.

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Furthermore, not a big fan of like eighties rock played

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<v Speaker 2>at a wedding for a dance floor it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>rock floor, Tie, it's a dance floor.

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<v Speaker 3>The natural fissure here between you and I is that

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<v Speaker 3>my wedding was much more of the traditional variety and yours,

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<v Speaker 3>based on the hints I've gotten, will be anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's my doing.

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<v Speaker 3>The difference is here will be highlighted in our style

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<v Speaker 3>of wedding. Yeah, and there will be some criticism. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you're prepared for that. I hope it doesn't strain

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.720
<v Speaker 3>this relationship. I don't think it will. But we should

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 3>also realize that it's neither one of us is fully in.

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<v Speaker 2>Jar now never. That's the way it works. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>I welcome the critique. I am excited for you and

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<v Speaker 2>solid wife Kate to come out and celebrate.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited. I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have anything, you have any plans that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to get done Chicago?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm an open book. I'm an open book. I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you we probably won't be as gung ho

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<v Speaker 3>on the food circuit as you might be. When you

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<v Speaker 3>go to a new city.

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<v Speaker 1>When do you get in?

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<v Speaker 3>We get in early Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to try to get deep dish pizza?

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<v Speaker 3>Tie?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I almost have to write yeah, go to

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<v Speaker 2>so the recommendation I've gotten, I haven't been to this place.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to the other place is and it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Pea quads p e quods. It's like a more local

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<v Speaker 2>experience than a touristy place. Pea quads for pizza.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to get there. So look that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I got.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. This is a free form show, a free form show.

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<v Speaker 3>We do appreciate everyone listening. We hope you will review

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 3>the show out on out on iTunes, go back and

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 3>listen to some of the stuff we've been doing all spring.

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<v Speaker 3>I am very excited for what is to come because

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<v Speaker 3>after you get married, this is going to move very

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<v Speaker 3>quickly through June and into July. And once we get

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 3>to July, that's when it starts getting interesting. It starts

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 3>getting interesting because we've got some shows that are that

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.760
<v Speaker 3>are planned out. We're gonna do the History of Solid

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Verbal show, which I might be more excited for than

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<v Speaker 3>any show we've ever done. That's probably going to be

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<v Speaker 3>in July. We will be in person doing that show.

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna come up and do that show with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yes, We've also got the bill Barnwell show, which

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<v Speaker 3>we have yet to schedule, but I'm equally as excited

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 3>for that show. Last time we talked about EMO. This time,

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<v Speaker 3>can we talk about what.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about? I mean, do you want

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:41.240
<v Speaker 2>people stealing the ideas high? No, you're right, we'll reveal

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 2>that at a later point in time. But it's it's

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 2>everything else nostalgic. Yes, And we are once again gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be joined by the esteemed Bill Barnwell.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there will be a live show. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do our live Fantasy Thing show. Can't wait at some

0:48:55.600 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 3>point in August. Well, we'll in person draft after our

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Fantasy Things teams for the coming football season and details

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 3>will be forthcoming on that as well. And then we're

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<v Speaker 3>in the season. Then once we get to August, we're

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 3>previewing teams, We're getting into actual schedules, talking about really

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<v Speaker 3>where the rubber meets the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is gonna this is gonna happen very quickly. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you're ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Things Live Draft will be in probably Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 1>With food availability. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, last time, we had a great time at

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Hill Country Chicken. Everybody was eating fried chicken and drinking

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:36.359
<v Speaker 2>beer something similar to that, But we will. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a bigger venue.

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<v Speaker 3>A bigger venue. Yeah, bigger venue.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I got.

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<v Speaker 3>Time me as well. On that note, Dan, Yes, enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>your week enjoy your weekend. We'll be recording a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit earlier next week to accommodate your exciting schedule. Go

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 3>on mooning for that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

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<v Speaker 3>Ty Hilton Brandt. Thanks for tunians at the South Urble.

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<v Speaker 3>We will catch you home on peace