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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, how's everybody doing on this Friday? Chris Brown

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Speaker 2: here with you flying solo today. Because one Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: under the weather at home watching on his couch. We

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Speaker 2: presume he caught the stomach bug that has been tearing

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Speaker 2: through his family for the better part of this week.

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Speaker 3: So speedy recovery to Steve.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully he can get back on the mend and

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Speaker 2: be ready to roll when we head out Team Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: in just a couple of days, because we will be

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Speaker 2: at the NFL Combine the entire week and we're looking

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Speaker 2: forward to providing you wal to wall coverage of that,

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Speaker 2: including interviews with head coach Sean McDermott, general manager Brandon Bean,

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Speaker 2: and others. So we'll just have the who's who all

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Speaker 2: week long on the show to kind of keep you

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Speaker 2: in tune and give you a primer for the upcoming

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft class. There's some players that I'm really interested

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Speaker 2: in seeing. I'll get into some of those a little

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Speaker 2: bit later on in the show. But it is Friday,

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Speaker 2: and you know what that means. It's an obl Friday

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Speaker 2: fan mailbag where we answer any and all of your

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Speaker 2: questions pertaining to the Bills, the league at large, maybe

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Speaker 2: it's the draft, maybe it's the NFL. Combine anything on

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Speaker 2: couple of guests on the show today, but we're pretty

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Speaker 2: wide open for your phone call, so feel free to

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Speaker 2: chime in when you want.

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Speaker 3: We do have open lines for you.

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Speaker 2: Obviously right off the rip here, I will tell you

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Speaker 2: that coming up at the bottom of the hour, we're

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Speaker 2: going to get into a little AFC East off season discussion,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be doing that with Dolphins reporter Alan Poopar

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Speaker 2: from si dot com, so we'll get the update from him.

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Speaker 2: Because much like the Bills right now, the Dolphins have

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Speaker 2: a pretty restrictive cap situation that they're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: to get cap compliant. There might be some salary cap

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Speaker 2: casualties involved, and that's on top of the twenty six

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Speaker 2: to come off their books at the start of the

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Speaker 2: new league year. So we'll catch up with Alan and

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Speaker 2: find out what the anticipated plan is for them going forward.

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Speaker 2: So that'll begin kind of our look around the AFC

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Speaker 2: East as we wrap up this week, and then second

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Speaker 2: hour the show from Yahoo Sports, Frank Schwab will catch

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Speaker 2: up with him because he's already full bore into the

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Speaker 2: off season previews. He's done the Bills one already, and

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Speaker 2: then he also has a top ten list for things

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Speaker 2: to look for when the free agent market opens next month.

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Speaker 2: We're only about three and a half weeks away from

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Speaker 2: the start of the free agency, so we got to

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Speaker 2: be offering and who might be most active in it.

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Speaker 2: So Frank will help us with that when we get

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Speaker 2: to the second hour of the show. But it is

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Speaker 2: an obl Friday fan mail bag, so questions that you

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Speaker 2: to touch on some bills notes that have come down

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Speaker 3: We already know.

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Speaker 2: What James Cook would like to get paid on a

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Speaker 2: This week, he appeared on the Nightcap podcast with Shannon

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Speaker 2: I'm just standing on business and what I deserve. I

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Speaker 2: Cook and Cook, when asked about the nature of that

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Speaker 2: offenses across the league this season. This past year, there

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Speaker 2: I think it may only move the market value incrementally.

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Speaker 2: I'm not expecting running back salaries to follow with an

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Speaker 2: well and good that James Cook wants fifteen million, this

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Speaker 2: want to entertain signing Cook to an extension, I think

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Speaker 2: This is an elite talent on your roster who won't

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Speaker 3: So to me, I think it is a viable one.

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Speaker 2: And we talked to Mike Jenitti on the show yesterday

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Speaker 2: and we lead off today with Dave in Rochester.

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Speaker 3: What you got for his Davi? You're on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Hey, Chris, thanks for taking my call. I know

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Speaker 4: the draft combine is coming up and I got I

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Speaker 4: Bills in multiple facets. Is UNLV wide receiver Ricky White

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Speaker 4: Just want your thoughts. Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, Dave, I am just getting into

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Speaker 2: I really think that's a position where the Bills could

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Speaker 2: come out of the draft class with two and probably

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Speaker 2: apologize that I can't speak to Ricky White just yet.

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Speaker 2: that's where more of the pressing needs for the Bills

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Speaker 2: now because there are too many pressing needs on the

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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. But we'll have to see

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Speaker 2: what the Bills have on their roster free agency wise

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Speaker 2: before they even get to the draft to really have

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Tom in Tanawanda next. What's up Tom Hi?

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Speaker 5: Chris Hey? If Cook doesn't fit into the long range plans,

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Speaker 5: do you think it's better off trading him now, I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's up to Brandon Vans and decides that, right, But

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Speaker 5: do you think if he doesn't fit into the long

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Speaker 3: Problem, Cindy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, von Miller is still under contract, but he would

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Speaker 7: Hey, Chris.

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Speaker 8: The moment I see in a Cook post about his

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that you mentioned his brother, Dalvin Cook, because

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Speaker 3: And look, I don't think he's a cancer now.

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Speaker 2: I think if it become if this whole negotiation becomes

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Speaker 9: Hey, Chris, how you doing flying solo?

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Speaker 9: So, Ron I was gonna weigh in on the James

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Speaker 9: Ryan, you know, I disagree with the kirk two points

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Speaker 9: save the money without by not resigning Amari, and break

435
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Speaker 9: all of the records that we set last Jesus. But

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Speaker 9: would love to get your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 2: Go Bill, Yeah, no problem, Thanks for the call. Amidst

438
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Speaker 2: the traffic of a bustling in New York City. It

439
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Speaker 2: happens to me when I'm talking to my daughter on

440
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Speaker 2: the phone. She lives down there, and it's like there's

441
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Speaker 2: just so much hustle and bustle going on, it's.

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Speaker 3: Hard to hear. But I did hear what you said.

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Speaker 2: And look, I think the contract comes in somewhere between

444
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Speaker 2: ten and a half and twelve a year, and I

445
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Speaker 2: think that's good enough to get it done, not only

446
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Speaker 2: because I think it's fair market value for the amount

447
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Speaker 2: of time that he's on the field. But then you

448
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Speaker 2: can incentivize it. And to your point, Nick, if you're

449
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Speaker 2: going to use it more in the passing game, tell

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Speaker 2: him that, and then put those incentives in the contract

451
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Speaker 2: as well, where if he gets forty receptions it kicks

452
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Speaker 2: in a bonus and something like that. So you can

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Speaker 2: get your average annual value that works for the Bills

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Speaker 2: on the contract and incentivize it to a point where

455
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Speaker 2: there are likely to be earned incentives for Cook to

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Speaker 2: make it more palatable for him. I really, I know, peop,

457
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Speaker 2: are you getting their underwear? And a bunch about this

458
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Speaker 2: because Cook made it public, But it's just posturing. That's

459
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Speaker 2: really all it is right now. It's not acrimonious. There

460
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Speaker 2: isn't an issue here. It's just a guy saying, hey,

461
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Speaker 2: this is what I think I'm worth. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: that the Bills believe that, but it starts the conversation

463
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Speaker 2: and where it goes from here is obviously up to

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's front office and James's representation. He turns twenty six

465
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Speaker 2: in September, so he's not on the young end. And

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Speaker 2: to your point, Nick, yeah, this is probably the last

467
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Speaker 2: chance he's gonna have to sign the big money contract

468
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Speaker 2: because his brother, and I understand why his brother's saying

469
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Speaker 2: what he's saying, he experienced something similar. He signs a

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Speaker 2: giant second contract with the Minnesota Vikings, and then when

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Speaker 2: it comes to his third contract, he's released by Minnesota

472
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Speaker 2: and his career all but ends because he bounces around

473
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Speaker 2: to a couple of teams with the Jets for a

474
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Speaker 2: short period of time, a couple other places, and now

475
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Speaker 2: he's not playing.

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Speaker 3: I think he finished with Dallas.

477
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Speaker 2: So his older brother knows as well as anyone how

478
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Speaker 2: short lived a running back is the flavor of the month.

479
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Speaker 2: So yeah, you want to get paid as much as possible,

480
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Speaker 2: as soon as possible, because if you can, you blink

481
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Speaker 2: at the running back position and you're yesterday's news. Uh,

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Speaker 2: let's go to Hunter out in Clarence.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for his Hunter?

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Speaker 11: Hey, Chris, how are you doing good?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 12: I was gonna talk about some like tap issues to

487
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Speaker 12: try to get the bills, you know back in positive

488
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Speaker 12: tap right. So I think my first thing is, I

489
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Speaker 12: think you got a cut von Miller. I think that's

490
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Speaker 12: our probably our biggest you know, like need to do

491
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Speaker 12: this offseason to cut von Miller as much as like

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Speaker 12: you know, I appreciate all like you know, it's talent

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Speaker 12: and all of his uh like his leadership. I just

494
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Speaker 12: think that he's like too old and he's not given

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Speaker 12: us that you know, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, uh, what's the word production?

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Speaker 12: Yeah? Production. And yet you know, with our defensive line,

498
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Speaker 12: and I think that we didn't get someone like young

499
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Speaker 12: in the draft. And there's a bunch and this this

500
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Speaker 12: draft has a bunch of you know, defensive linemen that

501
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Speaker 12: I think that can help us, you know, beat teams

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Speaker 12: like Kansas City, like in the postseason hopefully.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it makes a lot of sense fiscally. I

504
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Speaker 2: realized that, you know, there's the pull of his leadership

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Speaker 2: and mentorship to your point, And look, the Bills value

506
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Speaker 2: that stuff in their locker room. But it's going to

507
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Speaker 2: be very hard for them, I believe, to ignore an

508
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Speaker 2: eight and a half million dollar cap savings on one

509
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Speaker 2: player who turns thirty six next month. And let's just

510
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: be honest, isn't the player that he used to be.

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Speaker 2: So it wouldn't surprise me at all if they move

512
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Speaker 2: on from Vaughn, save the money and try to find

513
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Speaker 2: a couple of other places where they can save money.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we should dismiss this. We talked to

515
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Speaker 2: Mike Jenitti about this yesterday. In terms of potential cap casualties,

516
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Speaker 2: the Bills right now have four quarterbacks under contract on

517
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Speaker 2: their roster. Obviously, Josh Mitchell Trubisky has another year left

518
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Speaker 2: on his deal. They signed Mike White, who was on

519
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Speaker 2: the practice squad, to an extension through twenty twenty five,

520
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Speaker 2: and then after that signed Shane Bouchell, who was on

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Speaker 2: the practice squad or not on the practice squad. He

522
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Speaker 2: was put on ir right at the beginning of the

523
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Speaker 2: season after he suffered a season ending injury in the

524
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Speaker 2: final preseason game. So the Bills have four quarterbacks on

525
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Speaker 2: their offseason roster right now. You could save two and

526
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Speaker 2: a half million by moving on from Mitchell Trubisky. I mean,

527
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Speaker 2: these are just you're not going to take four quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: into the season. You may not even take four into

529
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Speaker 2: training camp. So that's an opportunity for some cap savings

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Speaker 2: as well. Just looking strictly at the business end of

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Speaker 2: this thing, I realize this involves people and livelihoods, but

532
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Speaker 2: the Bills have to do what's best for the Bills,

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Speaker 2: and the number one thing right now is to become

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Speaker 2: cap compliant. Let's squeeze in Joe, North Boston here before

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Speaker 2: the break.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Joe?

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Speaker 13: How you know on there Chris, go Bills and first

539
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Speaker 13: time caller, thanks for doing it. God bless you guys.

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Speaker 13: Love the Bills, and I think that the number one

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Speaker 13: priority for the Bills is to help out the dbs

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Speaker 13: and get the safeties rolling. There's a guy from South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: I'm in worry yeah and worry yeah.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. I think he's big. You know, he'll be a

545
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Speaker 13: great center fielder out there and kind of go for

546
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Speaker 13: the cornerbacks and shore up that back end defense. Just

547
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Speaker 13: get it tougher, get it bigger, big bide receivers in

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Speaker 13: the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's the big off season debate here, Joe, which is, yes,

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Speaker 2: the defense needs the help this offseason, they have to

553
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Speaker 2: fortify it. But what fans are debating and arguing over

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Speaker 2: is whether the focus should be the defensive front. Knowing

555
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Speaker 2: they're gonna a bunch of free agents at defensive tackle,

556
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Speaker 2: they may make Von Miller a cap casualty, so you

557
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Speaker 2: might need help at end and detackle just from a

558
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Speaker 2: numbers standpoint, and then the back end at the safety position,

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Speaker 2: where you could potentially lose Toamar Hamlin who's a free agent,

560
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Speaker 2: and you may not get Rasul Douglas back who's also

561
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Speaker 2: a free agent, and also thirty one years of age.

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Speaker 2: You may want to get younger and faster there. So

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Speaker 2: where does the priority lie upfront or on the back end.

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Speaker 2: When the Bills built this from scratch in twenty seventeen

565
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Speaker 2: under McDermott, they started on the back end. The first

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Speaker 2: two free agent signings were Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde

567
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Speaker 2: and they went from there and drafted Tredevius White in

568
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Speaker 2: the first round. So they started at the back end

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Speaker 2: the last time. Do they do it again here this

570
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Speaker 2: time around? We'll have to wait and see. The draft

571
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Speaker 2: is awfully deep at defensive tackle and defensive end. They

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Speaker 2: might feel they can get a lot of their boxes

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Speaker 2: checked in the draft at those two positions, but that

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Speaker 2: is the great debate and we'll have to see how

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Speaker 2: it plays out with this Bill's front office.

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Speaker 3: Got to take a.

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Speaker 2: Break here, but when we come back, we'll get a

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Speaker 2: little taste of the offseason plans in the AFC East.

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Speaker 2: When we catch up with Alan Poopar from si dot Com.

580
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Speaker 2: He covers the Dolphins. He'll give us the lowdown on

581
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Speaker 2: what their plans are for the offseason next here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Stay with us all.

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Speaker 2: Right back here out of Friday on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown with you and please to be joined now

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Speaker 2: as we talk a little AFC East off season with

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Speaker 2: Dolphins publisher editor for si dot com and also co

588
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: host of the All Dolphins podcast It's allan Poop are

589
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: joining us on the show, so Alan, thanks for some

590
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Speaker 2: time here and as we press into the off season

591
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Speaker 2: with the combine right on the horizon here and right

592
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: around the corner the Dolphins. I mean, they've got they've

593
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Speaker 2: got some work to do, Bud. Like twenty six unrestricted

594
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Speaker 2: free agents, I believe is the number for the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: One of your colleagues on the beat down there, Cameron

596
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Speaker 2: Wolf from NFL Networks at Javon Holland is not going

597
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Speaker 2: to get franchised. And do you think they even make

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Speaker 2: an offer for high Hollander? Is their cap situation so

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Speaker 2: restrictive that they're never going to get to a place

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Speaker 2: to pay him the kind of money that he's probably expecting.

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Speaker 14: Correct, I think b I wouldn't be surprised if they

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Speaker 14: if they just told him listen. As as the terminology

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Speaker 14: used by Jim Chris Greer with Mike Gesicki a few

604
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Speaker 14: years back with Christian Wilkins last offseason, you have earned

605
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Speaker 14: you have earned the right to test the market to

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Speaker 14: be a free agent Javon Holland. If you look at

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Speaker 14: some of the projections, that's they're looking at fifteen million

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Speaker 14: dollars a year. I don't think the Dolphins are in

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Speaker 14: a position to go anywhere near that high per a

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Speaker 14: player who's been solid, But I don't know if it's

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Speaker 14: been elite or close to elite. And it's four seasons

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Speaker 14: with Miami and this is a team, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 14: that's got needs all over the place, twenty five impending

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Speaker 14: on restricted free agents. They're now a hair over the

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Speaker 14: salary cap based on a new projection, but they still

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Speaker 14: have a lot of cap gymnastics to do.

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Speaker 15: I don't think Javon Holland is very high on their priority.

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Speaker 2: All right, So who would you list as a primary

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Speaker 2: cap casualty candidate to give Miami the room that it

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Speaker 2: needs to operate this offseason in free agency and to

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Speaker 2: fill out a draft class because they got a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of picks too. Their rookie pool is going to be

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Speaker 3: a little bit larger also.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, because right now they have seven picks, are looking

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Speaker 14: at three compensatory picks to give a total of ten.

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Speaker 14: The problem that they have is they released three veterans

627
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Speaker 14: a week ago, Kendall Fuller, Durham Smyth and Raheem Mostert.

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Speaker 14: But they saved under three million on each of those

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Speaker 14: guys total total of about eight million. The problem is

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Speaker 14: that two guys with whom they can make some headway

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Speaker 14: with the cap or Toront arm Said and Bradley Chubb.

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Speaker 14: Both of them have a cap number of over twenty

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Speaker 14: million for twenty twenty five. However, the cap savings are

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Speaker 14: insignificant unless they may compost you in one cuts, in

635
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Speaker 14: which case that doesn't help them for free in March,

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Speaker 14: getting under the salary cap or getting free agents. So

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Speaker 14: we might be looking more in a situation right now

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Speaker 14: where it's going to be contract restructures or contract extensions.

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Speaker 14: And one guy who jumps out is Twa Tongo Viloo

640
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Speaker 14: has a cap number of thirty nine million for twenty

641
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Speaker 14: twenty five. The Dolphins can restructure him cut that by

642
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Speaker 14: about half, which boom creates nineteen million of cap space.

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Speaker 14: The downside to that, if you want to consider the

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Speaker 14: downside as you're tying himself to him for another year,

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Speaker 14: unless you're willing at some point to swallow a lot

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Speaker 14: of cap space like the Broncos did with Russell Wilson

647
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Speaker 14: last year. Outside of that, they have a couple of guys.

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Speaker 14: Zach Seeler could be in for a new contract and

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Speaker 14: they can structure it so they lower his twenty twenty

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Speaker 14: five cap number a bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because he just signed an extension last year, right,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 14: He did, and I think his cap number is about

654
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Speaker 14: twelve million, I want to say for twenty twenty five,

655
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Speaker 14: if we're going to be honest about it's kind of

656
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 14: underpaid for the contributions he made in twenty twenty four

657
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Speaker 14: as the team MVP.

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Speaker 15: That's one place they can go.

659
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Speaker 14: And the problem is also again is did they did

660
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Speaker 14: a lot of contract work last off season as well?

661
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Speaker 14: Tyreek Hill got a new contract, and at some point

662
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Speaker 14: it's like, how often are you gonna just you know, restructure,

663
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Speaker 14: extend those guys and keep tacking on those void years

664
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Speaker 14: and you're just kicking it down the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because defensive end is a real interesting position on

666
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Speaker 2: this roster because Jalen Phillips is coming to the end

667
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Speaker 2: of his contract. Each of his last two seasons in

668
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: prematurely with injury, although he showed some promise at times.

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Speaker 2: Chubb injured as well, and he could be easily a

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Speaker 2: post June first cut and save them twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: How much do you feel Chop Robinson's emergence in the

672
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Speaker 2: second half of the season makes the Chubb post June

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Speaker 2: one cut more likely?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, very much so. I think if you'd ask me

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Speaker 14: this question like middle of last year, before Chop emerged,

676
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Speaker 14: to think the Dolphins would have would have been very,

677
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Speaker 14: very careful about doing anything with Chubb. The other problem

678
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Speaker 14: with Jialan Phillips you mentioned coming to the end of

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Speaker 14: his contract.

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Speaker 15: He's going to play right now.

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Speaker 14: He's scheduled to play on the fifth year option, which

682
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Speaker 14: calls for thirteen million, which is a pretty high cap number.

683
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Speaker 14: But as you mentioned, this last two years ended with

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Speaker 14: a tornic at least ten in the torn acl Is

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Speaker 14: this a guy, even though he has sean promise that

686
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Speaker 14: you want to make a long term commitment to based

687
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Speaker 14: on those injuries? So that's another question mark. So there

688
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Speaker 14: are decisions to be made there. I do think if

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Speaker 14: I were to guess that, well, first of all, the

690
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Speaker 14: first thing that's gonna happen is going to be a

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Speaker 14: conversation between the Dolphins and Bradley Chubb about Bradley, how

692
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Speaker 14: willing would you be to adjust your contract because ideally

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Speaker 14: they'd like to keep them, and if they can do so,

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Speaker 14: are they reduced rate to reduce cap number? Yeah, that

695
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Speaker 14: would be the ideal scenario. But Chub Mayver was you know,

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Speaker 14: I'm saying, yeah, not for me, and do what you

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Speaker 14: gotta do.

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Speaker 2: And we've gotten this far without mentioning one of their

699
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Speaker 2: bigger problems, which has been their offensive line, and they

700
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Speaker 2: have pending free agents there for offensive linemen, including three

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Speaker 2: guys who at least made starts for them at some

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Speaker 2: point during the season. Is offensive line priority number one

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Speaker 2: for them in the draft or do you think the

704
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Speaker 2: safety position supersedes that?

705
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Speaker 3: Knowing Poyer and Holland are both free agents.

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Speaker 14: How about I throwing cornerback as well, which has kind

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Speaker 14: of jumped to the forefront as well after they released

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Speaker 14: Kendall Fuller because they have Jalen Ramsey and camp. Well,

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Speaker 14: I'm sorry, you say Cam Smith.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a guy that they don't even want to put

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Speaker 3: on the field.

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Speaker 15: It seems well correct.

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Speaker 14: And then he's basically done nothing in his first two

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Speaker 14: years as a second round pick, and Dolphins can't count

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Speaker 14: on him. If I mean, if you were to emerge

716
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Speaker 14: and become a solid contributor and three that that would

717
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Speaker 14: be awesome. The Dolphins can't count on that. They have

718
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Speaker 14: cater Cooho, who is going to be a restricted free

719
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Speaker 14: agent and to who I would assume they'll bring back,

720
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Speaker 14: but he's more of a nickel guy. So you need

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Speaker 14: somebody else to play outside. And the one guy right now,

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Speaker 14: if the season were to start today, would be Storm Duck,

723
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Speaker 14: who was a rookie free agent last year who showed promise,

724
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Speaker 14: but just as a guy you're counting on to make

725
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Speaker 14: a playoff push, not necessarily sure, that's idea. So you've

726
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Speaker 14: got quarnerback, You've got the offensive line, you got an

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Speaker 14: interior defensive lineman to go along with that Steeler. You

728
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Speaker 14: got a backup quarterback though I think to me that

729
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Speaker 14: would be more free agency than the draft, and an

730
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Speaker 14: off the ball linebacker if it's not addressed in free agency.

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Speaker 2: And what do we make of the Bobby Slowick addition

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Speaker 2: to the coaching staff. I mean, I understand Slowik and

733
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Speaker 2: McDaniel coach together previously, and he's well versed in the system,

734
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Speaker 2: but how does offensive coordinator Frank Smith feel about this?

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Speaker 3: Higher?

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Speaker 2: And can you see any way that McDaniel at any

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Speaker 2: point gives up play calling to just be a head

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Speaker 2: coach on game day?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and you mentioned Frank Smith. What about Daryl Bevell,

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Speaker 14: who's the QB coach. Yeah, slash past game coordinator who

741
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Speaker 14: interviewed with the Raiders to become their new OC and

742
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Speaker 14: reunite with Pete Carroll until they went with Chip Kelly instead.

743
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Speaker 14: So now you've got a pass game coordinator. They hired

744
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Speaker 14: Bobby Slowick as a senior pass game coordinator, two guys

745
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Speaker 14: with extensive offensive coordinator experience to go along with Frank

746
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Speaker 14: Smith and Mike McDaniel. Calls the place hard not to

747
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Speaker 14: think about two chefs in the kitchen right now, and which.

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins have done before, Alan, right, remember when they

749
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Speaker 2: had two different guys.

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Speaker 15: Go go offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I brought it up. I mean, this

752
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Speaker 2: seems like it's going to be a mess. It's hard

753
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Speaker 2: to think that guys are going to stay in their

754
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Speaker 2: lane enough.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 15: It's yeah, the potential is there for that.

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Speaker 14: I mean, if you're asking guys to collaborate and do

758
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Speaker 14: everything cooperatively, it's tricky. And as far as your other question,

759
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Speaker 14: Mike McDaniel will give up play calling duties, kicking and screaming.

760
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Speaker 14: He's always been kind of defined when he's been asked about.

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Speaker 14: It's basically, when I think that somebody else is better

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Speaker 14: equipped to do it, I'll i'll, you know, I'll relinquish

763
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Speaker 14: those duties.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I mean it may be that at some point is

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Speaker 14: he may decide, you know what, As Nick Sirianni of

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Speaker 14: the Eagles kind of mentioned one point, it was best

768
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Speaker 14: for me to, you know, relinquish those so I could

769
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Speaker 14: focus more on the big picture.

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Speaker 15: Of the entire program.

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Speaker 14: Maybe Mike McDaniel has that come to Nick Sirianni moment,

772
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Speaker 14: if you want to call it that, and does it,

773
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Speaker 14: But I don't know yet.

774
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Speaker 2: And then the last thing for you, what is what

775
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Speaker 2: is the rhetoric down there as far as how far

776
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Speaker 2: away fans Dolphins fans believe they are from catching the

777
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Speaker 2: Bills in the division. I thought that Dolphins played a

778
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: great game in Week nine up here. You know, it

779
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Speaker 2: takes it takes the Bills sixty one yard field goal

780
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Speaker 2: from Tyler Bass to beat them in that game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they played him really tough.

782
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Speaker 2: What is the general consensus down there though from Dolphins fans,

783
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Speaker 2: like we're a miles away or we just got to

784
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: make a few tweaks and we're there again.

785
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Speaker 3: What's the general feeling down there?

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Speaker 14: It's a lot more negative than it is positive. I

787
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 14: hate to say, uh, And I think two are missing

788
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Speaker 14: the last two games because of the hip injury on

789
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Speaker 14: top of the previous games he missed because of the concussion.

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Speaker 15: That was a major downer.

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Speaker 14: Then you have the segment of fans who are going

792
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Speaker 14: to look at their results of twenty twenty four and go,

793
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 14: here we go again, playing good teams one and five

794
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Speaker 14: against teams that finished.

795
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Speaker 15: The season with a winning record.

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Speaker 14: The game against the Bills was about as if there's

797
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 14: such a thing as good a loss as you could

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Speaker 14: have because this was two or second game back. This

799
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 14: is a game as you're showing the highlight, the heartbreaking

800
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 14: highlight for Dolphin fans of the sixty one yard field goal.

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Speaker 14: This is a game where if Jordan Poyter doesn't lose

802
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 14: his bearings at the last second, doesn't ram into Kean Coleman,

803
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 14: Dolphins get the ball back with like where the forty

804
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 14: seconds left with a chance to go drive for a

805
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 14: game winning field goal and who knows where things go

806
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 14: from there if they pull off that win. But it's

807
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Speaker 14: just again, it was one of those coming up short

808
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Speaker 14: and the way the season ended. Yeah, I don't know

809
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 14: that there's a whole lot of excitement right now in

810
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 14: terms of the Dolphin fan base, you know as well

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Speaker 14: as I did. You've been doing this long enough, however,

812
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 14: that it can change pretty quickly based on one free

813
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 14: agent move that excites the fan base.

814
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 15: But right now, ever.

815
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 14: Since the end of the season, it's not necessarily been

816
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Speaker 14: overly delightful in terms of.

817
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Speaker 2: No rainbows, No rainbows and pixie sticks in Miami right now.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, it's a long.

819
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: To do list here in the off season for Chris

820
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Speaker 2: Greer and Mike McDaniel. I think it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a very interesting offseason in the AFC East in general. Know,

822
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: in New England's got about one hundred and forty million

823
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: to spend, and they're going to spend Miami with the

824
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: long to do list. They have the Bills trying to

825
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 2: get cap compliant and maneuvering their foster and the Jets

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Speaker 2: under Aaron Glenn what's going to happen there. So I

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Speaker 2: think it's going to be a very turbulent off season

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Speaker 2: for this division. So thanks for spelling it out for

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00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 2: us on what's going on down in Miami.

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Speaker 3: I'll see it at the Combine next week, Bud. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for the.

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Speaker 15: Time, absolutely and looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: That's Dolphins publisher editor for SI dot com Alan Poopar

835
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Speaker 2: joining us giving us the low down on the Dolphins

836
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Speaker 2: and they're impending off season plans. We'll take a break here,

837
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: but be back to your phone calls out of the

838
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Speaker 2: obl Friday fan mail bag and some other stuff that

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Speaker 2: I've got to pass along to you, including some stuff

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00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: around the NFL that will draw your interest for sure.

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Speaker 2: Eight three five point fifty To hop back on with me,

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Speaker 2: It's One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Back here on a Friday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Chris Brown with you flying solo and obl

845
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: Friday fan mailbag is open for you. Any question you

846
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: got on the bills of the league at large, the

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Speaker 2: NFL Combine the Draft fire away at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to pass this along to you. Bill's note

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00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: of sorts.

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00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus came out with their top one hundred

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00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: and one players from twenty twenty four. Was based on

853
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: player performance in this past season only, was not positioned specific.

854
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: Eagles led the way with eleven players on the list,

855
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: followed by the Lions with nine. The Ravens with seven

856
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: Bills were well represented with five players they ranked as follows.

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Speaker 2: Spencer Brown came in at number ninety seven. I was

858
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: impressed to see that he had the fourth highest offensive

859
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 2: lineman grade in the postseason in January. Right in front

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Speaker 2: of him, Greg Russo at ninety six. So they had

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Speaker 2: him at an eighty plus overall grade for the third

862
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Speaker 2: straight season. So I think that just goes to we

863
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: owe you what a steady player he is. He may

864
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: not be a dominant player, but he is a consistent player,

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Speaker 2: and I think bringing that to his game was probably

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00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 2: the best thing he did this past season. Seventy six

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Speaker 2: was James Cook, including the postseason. As we know, Cook

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00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: tied for the NFL lead with nineteen rushing touchdowns this season,

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Speaker 2: had the eighth highest rushing grade among running backs for

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Speaker 2: PFF this year, and the stat that really impressed me

871
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: he set a new career high with forty seven missed

872
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: tackles forced and three point two four yards after contact

873
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 2: per attempt was also a single season career high sixty seven.

874
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: Was Christian Benford, who only had two missed tackles all

875
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: season long. The only one who had a lower misstackle

876
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: percentage in the league Defensive Player of the Year Patrick Stertan,

877
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: So that was pretty impressive. I think we all felt

878
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: that Christian Benford had a really good season, fourth best

879
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: cut average grade among cornerbacks in twenty twenty four, and

880
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: then topping the list for the Bills Josh Allen, who

881
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: checked in at number six overall.

882
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: Yes, we know we.

883
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: Won the MVP, but PFF goes strictly on metrics, so

884
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: I kind of get why there are five people in

885
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: front of him, although I probably would have put him

886
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: higher personally, top five ahead of Allan, Derek Henry at five,

887
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: Burrow at four, Eagles left tackle Jordan mylotta three Miles

888
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: Garrett at two number one Lamar Jackson, who, as we know,

889
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: had the superior individual stats this season, so no surprise

890
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: that PFF has him at the top of their list,

891
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: but well represented for the Bills for comparison's sake, a

892
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 2: team like the Dolphins, they had Tron Armstead one dude

893
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 2: on the list. After we just talked to Alan Poopar,

894
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: who covers the Dolphins down there in Miami.

895
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the phones though.

896
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: At eight oh three zero five fifty won eighty eight

897
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty into Harry up in

898
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: New Hampshire.

899
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Harry?

900
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, thanks taking a call. Yeah, I'm a u

901
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 11: B alum and I follow the Bulls and there's a

902
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 11: player on that team, Sean Dolac. Local kid went to

903
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 11: the linebacker, right, Yeah. I mean's he's a first team

904
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 11: All American. He led fbs and tackles, and yet he

905
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 11: doesn't get invited to the Pro Bowl, not Pro Bowl,

906
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 11: i'm sorry, Senior Bowl, or any of the senior All

907
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 11: Star games. And he didn't get a Combine invite, which

908
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 11: I think is kind of ludicrous. What do you know

909
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 11: about the kid, What do you think about him? And

910
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 11: could you see him in blue and red one of

911
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 11: these days? I mean the Bills seem to have a

912
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 11: pipeline for UV players.

913
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, They've got three on their roster right now,

914
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 2: JaMarcus Ingram, cam Lewis, Joe and Dreeson.

915
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: I like Dolac. I mean, he's the best description of him.

916
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: He's a football player, really good anticipatory player. I actually

917
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: was watching one of the UB games earlier this season.

918
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: It was the one where he had like the fifty

919
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: two yard interception return for a touchdown.

920
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: So even though he's.

921
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: Got the classic bigger bulkier build for a running for

922
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 2: a linebacker, like if he was playing twenty years ago,

923
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: he'd be a Day two draft pick.

924
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: I think how he tests at.

925
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: The UB Pro Day is going to go a long

926
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: way in determining where he goes on the board, because

927
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: I think his instincts, his character, his playmaking ability are

928
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: all top flight. You know, he's gonna get high grades

929
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: in all of those areas. How does he test? What

930
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: does he run in the forty? Is he in the

931
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: four sevens or is he in the high four fives?

932
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: That that could make a round or potentially two of

933
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: difference for him, but seeing that he's not one of

934
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: the three hundred and twenty nine NFL Combine invites is

935
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: a little disappointing. I think he was also the Mid

936
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: American Conference Defensive Player of the Year, so the guy

937
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: can play football. I don't think there's any debate about that.

938
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: Why he's not given more consideration, I don't know. But

939
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: knowing that he's right under the nose of the Bills,

940
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 2: I think that he's firmly on their radar. But does

941
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: that mean he's drafted by the Bills. We'll have to

942
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: wait and see. As we know, the draft is a

943
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: crapshoot to begin with. There's thirty two teams, the variables

944
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: are innumerable, so I think a lot has to fall

945
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: right for him to be a draft pick of the Bills,

946
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: or maybe even an undrafted signing of the Bills. If

947
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: let's say, you know, God forbid for him. He doesn't

948
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: have a great testing day at his pro day, but

949
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: I think Pro Day is going to be very, very

950
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: big for him. And look there are I mean, the

951
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: balance of the league send scouts to the UBI Pro Day,

952
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: so it's not like he's not going to get found

953
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: if he tests well, and I think he's on the

954
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: radar just because of his postseason accolades that he's received,

955
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: including Mid American Conference Defensive Player of the Year. So

956
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: he may not be invited to the combine, but I

957
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: don't think he's an unknown to the NFL scouting community.

958
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: So we'll have to see how his pre draft run

959
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: up plays out, with his pro day being probably the

960
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: most important part of the equation from here on out,

961
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: so hopefully he has a good day and boosts his

962
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: draft stock. Got to take a break here, but when

963
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll be talking with our good friend

964
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: Frank Schwab from Yahoo Sports. He's the senior NFL writer

965
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: has already been hard at work on off season previews.

966
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: He wrote one up for the Bills. He also wrote

967
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: one up for the NFL Free agent market. We'll cover

968
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: both those bases with him when we return here on

969
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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

970
00:50:35,280 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 16: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

971
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Callalida Health.

972
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: All Right, nour number two here on a Friday, Chris

973
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: Brown with you, and please be joined now by senior

974
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: NFL writer for Yahoo Sports. Frank Schwab joining us already

975
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: hard at work on mapping out the off seasons for

976
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: a number of teams, including the Bills, as well as

977
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: the impending free agent market. But Frank, I think we

978
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: have to start here with the memo that went out

979
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: to league offices that the cap is going to be

980
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: somewhere between two seventy seven and a half and to

981
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: eighty one and a half. That changes the dynamic somewhat

982
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: for some teams, maybe not all teams.

983
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 3: Where do you see it having the biggest.

984
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: Impact, you know, for teams that were like right on

985
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: the cusp of being a million over a million under,

986
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: maybe like a team like the Dolphins who still have

987
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: a lot of work to do with twenty unrestricted free agents,

988
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: but this could be, you know, something that gives them

989
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: maneuverability to land maybe a couple of more players in

990
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: free agency.

991
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think you hit on it.

992
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 17: Well, It's it's not necessarily every team. The difference in

993
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 17: New England Patriots having one hundred and twenty three million

994
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 17: dollars in cap space and one hundred twenty eight million dollars.

995
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: In cap space.

996
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 10: Isn't that really a big deal?

997
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 17: But the team's right at the line or under like

998
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 17: the teams that are already over the cap. I think

999
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 17: about the New Orleans Saints and they're an extreme example.

1000
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 17: They're I think forty some million over the salary cap

1001
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 17: right now. Maybe that means it's one less player they

1002
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 17: have to cut or restructure to get under the salary cap.

1003
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 17: So that makes a difference with the math. But it's funny,

1004
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 17: every team, you know, every fan base, maybe even some

1005
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 17: front offices are like, oh, we have all this extra

1006
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 17: money to spend. Yeah, all thirty two teams have that extra.

1007
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 10: Money to spend. It doesn't help view really in that case.

1008
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 17: It just means that the people who it's going to

1009
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 17: benefit the most are the free agents in this class

1010
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 17: because you're going to see, well, instead of T Higgins

1011
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 17: making thirty five million dollars a year, if it's the

1012
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 17: open market, maybe that gets pushed up to thirty eight

1013
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 17: forty million dollars because there's all this extra money around

1014
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 17: with everybody else. So I don't think it's the big

1015
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 17: difference maker that people will make it out to be.

1016
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 17: It helps, especially when you have some math issues with

1017
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 17: the salary camp. With these teams close to it, but

1018
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 17: every team has the same advantage. It just means more

1019
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 17: money is going to be thrown around a free agency

1020
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 17: than was before.

1021
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: And Frank, I know you already put together the offseason

1022
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: preview for the Bills, and I did find it interesting

1023
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: that you that you looked at receiver. I don't think

1024
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: Bills fans are avoiding receiver. I think they look at

1025
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: that too, in light of the fact that Amari Cooper's

1026
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: a free agent, maybe didn't give the Bills everything they.

1027
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: Were hoping for.

1028
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: And you make the point that the Bills still don't

1029
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: have a true field stretcher. And I don't even think

1030
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman is the kind of skill set that would

1031
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: grow into that kind of a receiver. And yet at

1032
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: the same time, there's a bounty of work to be

1033
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 2: done on the defensive side of the ball for them,

1034
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: not only because of their secondary, which could probably use

1035
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: another outside corner if Rasuell Douglass moves on and is

1036
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: thirty one years old, but also because Deamar Hamlin's a

1037
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: free agent at the safety spot and may not be back.

1038
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: Not to mention all the defensive tackles up front who

1039
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: are set to become free agents and Von Miller turning

1040
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: thirty six next month and could be a cap casualty.

1041
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: I just gave you a.

1042
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: Long list there, But first, why did you gravitate to

1043
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: the receiver position?

1044
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 3: Number one? And then number two?

1045
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: Where might you begin your off season work if you're

1046
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: the Bills on the defense up front or in the back, you.

1047
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 10: Know, first thing with the receiver.

1048
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 17: And I get the you know philosophy that well, he

1049
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 17: Josh Allen just won an MVP with this crew. But

1050
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 17: I just think there's another level to be had that look,

1051
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 17: this is the Buffalo Bills have to fight a way

1052
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 17: to get over the home right, Like they keep banging

1053
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 17: their head against the wall trying to get to the

1054
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 17: super Bowl. What's going to get you to the next level?

1055
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 17: And I think it's having a number one receiver. For

1056
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 17: Josh Allen, yes, he's doing remarkable work, not really having

1057
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 17: that number one guy. The guys you know, Khalil Shakir

1058
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 17: had a good season. Kek Coleman shows a lot of

1059
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 17: things as a rookie, and he might improve and be

1060
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 17: that number one alpha type. But I think, yes, binding

1061
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 17: a field stretcher that Josh Allen could really work with

1062
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 17: would just open up the offense in ways that would

1063
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 17: even make Josh Allen better.

1064
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 10: Than he was his MVP season.

1065
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 17: As crazy that is that as that is to say, so,

1066
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 17: I think getting an alpha receiver in the room would

1067
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 17: really really help them and take Josh Allen to the

1068
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 17: next level, maybe get the Buffalo Bills past the Chief's

1069
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 17: wall they keep banging up against. But yes, you are

1070
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 17: right about defense. I mean, it's this is what happens

1071
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 17: in a salary cap sport. And honestly, I know people

1072
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 17: there don't want to hear this necessarily, but that's why

1073
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 17: what the Chiefs have done the last seven years has

1074
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 17: been so impressive. Because when you're good, you have to

1075
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 17: pay your good players, and then your salary cap just

1076
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 17: runs out.

1077
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 10: At some point. You can't pay everybody.

1078
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 17: So a guy like Damar Hamlin who had a heck

1079
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 17: of a season, Rasul Douglas who keeps making plays even

1080
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 17: at his age, you can't afford to keep them all

1081
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 17: and you got to replace them somehow too. So for me,

1082
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 17: it's the secondary. I think I think the Bills are

1083
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 17: fine up front. I think that you can always get

1084
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 17: better upfront. Every single football team. There's not a team

1085
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 17: in the NFL the Philadelphia Eagles or anybody else who's like, Nope,

1086
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 17: we don't couldn't use another defensive lineman that No, every

1087
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 17: team wants to be as deep as you can the

1088
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 17: defensive line, But I just do their secondary as the

1089
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 17: area that of real concern. You want to get better

1090
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 17: there or at least retain what you got one or

1091
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 17: the other. I think that that's where i'd start. I'd

1092
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 17: start on the back end, move my way forward. If

1093
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 17: you can get a difference making defensive lineman given your

1094
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 17: cap restrictions, that's awesome. But I think you have to

1095
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 17: prioritize things, and for me, the priority would be.

1096
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: A secondary so and last one on the bills, and

1097
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: then we'll kind of move on to the free agent

1098
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: at large.

1099
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 3: But do you feel that.

1100
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm wondering which position should be addressed with cheap labor

1101
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: in the draft? We know it's a great defensive tackle class,

1102
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: so maybe they just go cheap labor there and that's

1103
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: how they fill the holes up front. Are you of

1104
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: the mindset that maybe you get a proven player to

1105
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: line up opposite Christian Benford outside a corner, Maybe get

1106
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: somebody to at least have in the conversation at safety

1107
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: with rap and Cole Bishop, who showed some promise but

1108
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: is still a young, inexperienced player.

1109
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, and yeah, that's the thing. You look at, what

1110
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 10: pick thirty. You can't be sure of something.

1111
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 17: You can't go in and saying we're definitely going to

1112
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 17: find our defensive tackle at thirty because you just don't

1113
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 17: know what the first twenty nine teams are going to do.

1114
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 17: But I do think there's quarterbacks late in the first

1115
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 17: round who are really interesting. You could fix it that

1116
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 17: way and then have a more stable commodity going forward

1117
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 17: if you hit like you said, interior line. There's a

1118
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 17: lot of those guys too. It's good to have those

1119
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 17: issues in this draft because if you need a quarterback

1120
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 17: per se, you're not finding one unless even if you

1121
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 17: got the top two picks, like these guys really that dude,

1122
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 17: I don't know if that's true. Receiver another one late

1123
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 17: in the first round. This isn't one of those deep

1124
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 17: drafts like we've seen in the past few years. I

1125
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 17: think this is a very top heavy receiver draft. So

1126
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 17: but you know, like you said, defensive a lignment, yes,

1127
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 17: I think there's some there. I think cornerback is pretty

1128
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 17: good late in the first round.

1129
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 10: So I think, yes, I think you almost have to.

1130
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 17: Just not not separate the two. Just say, if we

1131
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 17: end up getting a good quarterback and free agency and

1132
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 17: the great quarterback falls to us at thirty, we'll just

1133
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 17: double dip. There's nothing wrong with making your strength strong,

1134
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 17: and nobody has ever had too many cornerbacks in this

1135
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 17: modern NFL. So I just think you got to go

1136
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 17: buff free agency, take the best players you can get

1137
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 17: with the salary cap issues you have, and then in

1138
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 17: the draft just wipe the slight clid and say, we're

1139
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 17: just gonna take the best player available thirty and hopefully

1140
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 17: that aligns with our needs.

1141
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: And then with your kind of overview of the free

1142
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: agent market and to do lists for teams, found the

1143
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: quarterback situation for the Raiders to be interesting. Tom Brady

1144
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: has got his hands all over this operation already. It

1145
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: seems evident even from the outside looking in. I'm just

1146
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: wondering who they can convince to come there. I mean,

1147
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: you heard Aaron Rodgers with TMZ. You know they're asking him, hey,

1148
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: what do you want in a team that you know

1149
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: you could play for it he goes one that wants

1150
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: me and one that's good and the Raiders aren't good,

1151
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: So does he want to go there? And what kind

1152
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: of sales job is Tom Brady gonna have to pull

1153
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: off to get somebody in the building.

1154
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 17: This is very fascinating and we just talked about this

1155
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 17: on our podcast. It's like coverage a sporning where if

1156
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 17: you gave me the answer key to the NFL off

1157
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 17: season and you allowed me to ask one question I

1158
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 17: could have the answer to, it would be where's Aaron

1159
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 17: Rodgers gonna be? Because I think that sets up the

1160
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 17: rest of the NFL off season, whether it's he's retired

1161
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 17: or he goes to the Steeler. So I think of

1162
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 17: the one team that's good that needs a quarterback right

1163
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 17: that they can reasonably say, yes, we're going to be

1164
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 17: in the playoffs next year with Aaron Rodgers, or we

1165
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 17: at least have a chance to compete for that. Raiders

1166
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 17: don't offer that, the Browns won't offer that, the Titans

1167
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 17: don't offer that any of these other teams looking for

1168
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 17: quarterback giants.

1169
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 10: So yes, I think.

1170
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Speaker 17: With the Raiders, I think we've really overstated how much

1171
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 17: Tom Brady means in all this. Take a step back

1172
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 17: and really think about this. When is an NFL coach

1173
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 17: or player or anybody just said yes because that guy

1174
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 17: is a minority owner and the team that's who I'm

1175
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 17: going to go play for, even though he has no

1176
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 17: experience in this job. I get Tom Brady's a respected dude, leader, AULTI,

1177
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 17: great quarterback, everything. Of course, I'm not denying any of that.

1178
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 17: But why would Aaron Rodgers put his final few NFL

1179
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 17: seasons in the hands of Oh, hey, tom Brady's a

1180
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 17: ten percent owner who cares like. That's not why guys

1181
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 17: pick a certain team or not.

1182
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 10: We did that with Ben.

1183
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 17: Johnson, right, Oh, tom Brady's gonna lure Ben Johnson. Now

1184
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 17: that didn't happen, like because of every reason you could

1185
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 17: logically think of. So I'm fascinated to see who the

1186
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 17: Raiders get because there's not a lot to offer.

1187
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 10: There's not a lot other.

1188
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 17: Than we'll give you a lot of money and give

1189
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 17: you a chance to start. And that might happen with

1190
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 17: Sam Darnold if I had to hand he hat this thing.

1191
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 10: I do think Aaron Rodgers goes to Pittsburgh.

1192
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 17: He doesn't really fit culturally there, But I think the

1193
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 17: Steeler is gonna have to put it down that Hey, Aaron,

1194
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 17: You're not gonna get a run of the place like

1195
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 17: you did with the Jets. If you want to come

1196
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 17: play for us, you can play for us. But this

1197
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 17: is still my Tomlin.

1198
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 10: Steelers, not Aaron Rodgers Steelers.

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Speaker 17: Okay, And I think that Eron Rodgers is going to

1200
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 17: agree to that because that's the only option he has

1201
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 17: to win.

1202
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 10: I think Sam.

1203
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 17: Darnald goes to the Raiders because they're desperate and they

1204
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 17: want to overpay somebody, and then the rest of the

1205
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 17: dominoes are going to fall where they may.

1206
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 10: But it's fascinating that Raiders situation.

1207
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 17: Can Tom Brady get a guy kind of like John

1208
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 17: Elway did back in the day landing Peyton Manning when

1209
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 17: everybody was out for him. I'm interested to see if

1210
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 17: Brady can do this magic, and I'm.

1211
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 10: Just being way too cynical about the influence he has.

1212
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just say I pathetically Rodgers does land

1213
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh.

1214
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 3: Where does that leave justin Fields?

1215
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: Is he a backup somewhere or do you think somebody

1216
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: is interested enough to kind of cater their offense to

1217
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: his running abilities, similar to what Baltimore did when Lamar

1218
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: first came in.

1219
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 17: Yeah, And I think you framed that perfectly in that

1220
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 17: if you are willing to sign Justin Fields as your starter,

1221
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 17: you have to run a certain offense. You do like,

1222
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 17: that's just his style of play, his strengths and weaknesses.

1223
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 17: Justin Fields requires an organizational commitment to Justin Fields. If

1224
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 17: you were just a line up, who are the thirty

1225
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 17: two best quarterbacks in the world, Justin Field is probably

1226
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 17: maybe not high on that list, but he's probably within

1227
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 17: the thirty two. But is a different type of quarterback,

1228
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 17: and you want to play that style. I think somebody

1229
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 17: will because when you look around the NFL landscape this

1230
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 17: season and you line up, Okay, here are the teams

1231
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 17: that need a quarterback, here are the quality quarterbacks available,

1232
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 17: you realize that the teams that need a quarterback, that

1233
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 17: list is a lot longer. I think you're going to

1234
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 17: see some guys starting Week one where you're like, Wow,

1235
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 17: that guy is a starting quarterback, preferred starter week one

1236
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 17: in the NFL.

1237
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 10: Ooh, that's bad.

1238
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 17: It's just you play the game of musical chairs and

1239
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 17: there ain't enough guys to go around for the team

1240
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 17: like the Buffalo Bills. You're like, thank goodness, we're not

1241
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 17: looking for a quarterback because Kirk Cousins is going to

1242
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 17: come aboard. You're making way too much money for what

1243
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 17: he showed last year. So I do think I think

1244
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 17: somebody's going to eventually sign Justin Fields to probably make

1245
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 17: him their starter, because there's just gonna be a lot

1246
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 17: of desperation this offseason. But you framed it well again

1247
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 17: that you got to run an offense for Justin Fields

1248
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 17: at that point, and that requires an organizational commitment.

1249
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: All right, last one before I let you go, Frank,

1250
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: how the hell is Cincinnati going to pull this off

1251
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: and keep all of their elite talent on the roster.

1252
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 2: They already cut Sheldon Rankins today to save nine and

1253
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: a half million on the cap. That's a drop in

1254
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: the bucket for the kind of money they're going to

1255
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: have to hand out here in the next several weeks.

1256
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: And Joe Burrow's been the loudest. Well, is Joe gonna

1257
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: come to the table and restructure his deal to get

1258
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: some of these deals done?

1259
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 10: That's fair to ask.

1260
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 17: The Bengals have screwed this up badly, like really really bad.

1261
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 17: I mean, you look at the Jamar Chase contract. Should

1262
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 17: have been one of the easier contracts of the NFL

1263
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 17: offseason last year. Okay, Jamar, you are clearly within this

1264
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 17: elite group of receivers. This is what every other elite

1265
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 17: receiver has just made. Here's your contract. But the Bengals

1266
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 17: kind of dragged their feet, and then Mike Brown, for

1267
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 17: some unknown reason, got to near you know, week one,

1268
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 17: and he's like, we don't negotiate with players during the season.

1269
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 17: Why not so you could cost yourself millions of dollars

1270
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 17: When Jamar Chase goes and wins a triple Crown. So

1271
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 17: they've screwed everything up with t Higgins, Wi Tray Hendrickson,

1272
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 17: with Jamar Chase, and now they're in scramble mode and

1273
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 17: they're gonna have to pay way more than they should have,

1274
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 17: you know, a year ago or so to retain these

1275
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 17: three guys.

1276
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 10: I don't think they get it done.

1277
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 17: I think it Jamar Chase stays he's their top priority

1278
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 17: for good reason.

1279
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 10: Triple crown, great player. Think I don't think they get it.

1280
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 17: Done with te Higgins, and I'm not even sure they

1281
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 17: get it done with Trey Hendrickson either. I don't know

1282
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 17: what they're gonna do there. But if they do get

1283
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 17: it done with all three guys. Then what you've brought

1284
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 17: all the key pieces back to a team that went

1285
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 17: nine and seven despite your quarterback playing at an MVP level.

1286
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 10: That's what will we want to run that back.

1287
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 17: So either you overpay to keep these three stars or

1288
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:08,959
Speaker 17: you try to.

1289
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 10: Use that money to build a defense. He can't do both.

1290
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 10: I don't think so.

1291
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 17: This is a very interesting offseason for the Bengals, who

1292
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 17: just wasted hear Joe Burrow's prime might waste another year

1293
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 17: Joe Burrow's prime. They can't figure these things out. They're

1294
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 17: a fascinating team this offseason because just doesn't the math

1295
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 17: doesn't all work.

1296
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 10: You can't plug all the holes. Either you get these

1297
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 10: three guys back or two of them you ignore the defense.

1298
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 10: Is that what we're going to do? It's really tough for.

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Speaker 2: The Cincinnata That's why we've been kind of knocking this around.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's talking about the Bill should be interested in Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 2: I think Hendrickson might be an easier guy to pry

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Speaker 2: away from Cincinnati and absolve them of one of our

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Speaker 2: contractual problems. I know he's thirty years old, but it's

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Speaker 2: hard to argue with back to back seventeen and a

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Speaker 2: half sax seasons. Even if he never gets back to

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Speaker 2: that number again. I'm just wondering what it would take

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Speaker 2: to pry him away from the Bengals because you could

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Speaker 2: argue they're doing Cincinnati a.

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Speaker 17: Favored Yeah, you know, you just don't want to then

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Speaker 17: give Trey Hendrickson the Von Miller contract and redress in

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Speaker 17: a couple of years. But you're right, Trey Hendrickson, I

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Speaker 17: believe in a second defensive Player of the Year, maybe third.

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Speaker 17: I believe it was second though He's still got a

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Speaker 17: lot of juice left. And yes, I think I don't

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Speaker 17: think Miles Kartt's going anywhere like that name got. Look,

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Speaker 17: Miles Garrett is not a guy that Cleveland Browns want

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Speaker 17: to trade like. They're probably just gonna say, look, Miles,

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Speaker 17: here's a little bit more money, and if you want

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Speaker 17: to play football in twenty twenty five, here's where you're

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Speaker 17: gonna have to play, or you can retire. If you

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Speaker 17: want to leave all that money on the table, that's great,

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Speaker 17: but we're not trading you. So I don't think Miles

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Speaker 17: Garrett's going anywhere. But Trey Hendrickson is really interesting because

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Speaker 17: the Bengals just have a conundrum I don't think they

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Speaker 17: can solve in this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if Big Ball or Bean as they

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Speaker 2: call him here, steps in to assist one. Mike Brown, Frank,

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Speaker 2: thanks for the time, appreciate it, and we'll catch you

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Speaker 2: up with you down the line here in the offseason.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for the time, absolutely, I always appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: That's Frank Schwab, senior NFL writer for Yah who Sports

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Speaker 2: joining us. And look, I really think that is a

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Speaker 2: much more viable option for the Bills than Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 2: I think Cincinnati knows what they're up against in terms

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Speaker 2: of contract extensions for t Higgins, Jamar Chase, and Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 2: and to think they're going to get all three done

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Speaker 2: in the same offseason is ludicrous. And look, maybe they

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Speaker 2: do find a way to get Chase and Hendrickson done,

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Speaker 2: and Higgins is the guy on the outside looking in,

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01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: but it doesn't hurt to give him a phone call

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Speaker 2: and say, look, I know you want to keep that

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Speaker 2: offense intact. Why don't we take Hendrix toonon off your hands.

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01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: We can give you a player in return and a

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Speaker 2: draft choice and we'll take care of Hendrickson for you.

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Speaker 3: What do you say? And who knows?

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Speaker 2: You might be able to offer something that's attractive enough

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Speaker 2: to Mike Brown in that Bengals front office to get

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Speaker 2: a deal done. And now you've got an alpha pass

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Speaker 2: rusher opposite Greg Russo. I mean, everybody's got their eyes

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Speaker 2: on Miles Garrett. I think Trey Hendrickson, because of the

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Speaker 2: circumstance that the Bengals are in, might be easier to

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Speaker 2: pry away than the Browns, who have said, in no

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Speaker 2: uncertain terms, we're not trading Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 3: They haven't moved off that yet. Maybe it changes, but

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Speaker 3: we'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 2: It's an OBL Friday fan mail bag here on one

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Speaker 2: Bills Live eight o three oh five point fifty one

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Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty the number to

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Speaker 2: jump on board. Ask any question under the sun that

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Speaker 2: you have on the Bills, the league at large, the

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Speaker 2: NFL Combine coming up, and the NFL Draft. I mean, heck,

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Speaker 2: if we want to do that. Free agency as well,

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Speaker 2: that's on the table too, So anything and everything is

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Speaker 2: fair game. Got open lines for you there at eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five pot fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 2: point fifty two five fifty Speaking of the Bengals, just

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Speaker 2: some quick around the NFL news here presented by Kalide Healthy,

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. The Bengals released

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Speaker 2: veteran defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins. Missed several games last season

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Speaker 2: with a hamstring injury and then was put on the

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Speaker 2: non football illness list late in the year missed the

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Speaker 2: rest of the season. So I would think if anyone

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Speaker 2: is interested in the nine year veteran, they're gonna need

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Speaker 2: his full medical work up to see what Rankins was

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01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 2: dealing with that kept him off the field. But Rankins,

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Speaker 2: as I said earlier when we had Frank Schwabon, saved

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Speaker 2: the Bengals nine and a half million on the cap,

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Speaker 2: and he was not the only cap casualty in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers released former Bills cornerback Dane Jackson just

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Speaker 2: a year after signing him to a two year deal

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Speaker 2: in free agency worth eight and a half million dollars.

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01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: Jackson was expected to be the starting outside corner opposite

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Speaker 2: j C. Horn, their first round draft choice a few

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: years ago, but he did not have a very good

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01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: season Jackson appeared in just nine games, made just three starts,

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Speaker 2: and had career lows in overall defensive grade and coverage grade.

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Speaker 3: From Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: Now I think the Bills might be interested in signing

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Speaker 2: Dan Jackson. Perhaps, I don't think as a starter necessarily,

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Speaker 2: but as a depth player certainly. I think they'd be

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Speaker 2: happy to have him back and serve in a depth

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Speaker 2: capacity as he did his first four years here as

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Speaker 2: a Buffalo Bill and a former seventh round draft choice.

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01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: The La Chargers got the free agent safety market off

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Speaker 2: and running by resigning their own pending free agent. Elijah

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: Molden re signed with the club, agreed to a three

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01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: year deal worth just under nineteen million dollars with more

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Speaker 2: than thirteen million guaranteed. As we just mentioned with Frank,

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Speaker 2: Bills could be in the market for a veteran safety,

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01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: especially if DeMar Hamlin isn't re signed as one of

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Speaker 2: their pending free agents we mentioned. TMZ caught up with

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in a parking lot somewhere in California and

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01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: he was asked what he was looking for in a

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01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: new team. Rogers says, one that they want me, and

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 2: two that they're a good team. We heard Frank cam indicap,

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Speaker 2: but he thinks Rogers is most likely to go to

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, who are looking for a veteran short term

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01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: answer at the position. We'll have to see if he

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Speaker 2: decides upon that. That's a pretty regimented operation there under

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. As we heard Frank say, he's not going

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Speaker 2: to get his run of the roost as he did

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Speaker 2: in New York with the Jets under Woody Johnson and

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Speaker 2: Robert Slip and as we know how that season went

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Speaker 2: solid didn't make it to week six. The general manager

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Speaker 2: Joe Douglas didn't get past week fifteen. So it's a

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Speaker 2: rebuild situation in New York once again. NFL Networks Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah had his pre combined national conference call yesterday and

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Speaker 2: among the topics discussed was what Tennessee is going to

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Speaker 2: do with the number one overall pick. From Jeremiah's perspective,

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Speaker 2: he thinks Tennessee GM Mike Borganzi has four options. Could

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Speaker 2: stick and pick Penn State edge rusher Abdul Carter, Colorado

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks or cornerback slash wide receiver Travis Hunter, or Miami

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Speaker 2: quarterback cam Ward. He thinks those three players are in

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Speaker 2: play to be the top pick in the draft, or

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Speaker 2: he could trade the pick, and according to reports, the

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Speaker 2: Titans are open to moving out of pick one. NFL

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Speaker 2: Network see and Rapaport said it's been pretty quiet on

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Speaker 2: the trade front right now, and Jeremiah was saying it

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Speaker 2: would have to take a king's ransom to get the

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Speaker 2: Titans to move down any further than pick three, because

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Speaker 2: they it's believed they want one of those three players

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Speaker 2: Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, or cam Ward So to move

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Speaker 2: past the third pick down to four, five or six

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Speaker 2: or somewhere else in the top ten would take a

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Speaker 2: king's ransom to get the Titans out of the number

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Speaker 2: one spot. So we'll have to see what Tennessee ultimately

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Speaker 2: decides to do. It's not a lock that they're going

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Speaker 2: to take a quarterback at one because they're just two

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: years removed from drafting Will Levis and there is some

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01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: thought that they want to give him one more season

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01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,839
Speaker 2: to try to take over as the full time franchise

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01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: signal caller. But we'll have to wait and see on that.

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Speaker 2: If they draft a quarterback, obviously all bets are off.

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Speaker 2: One other thing to mention about the combine coming up

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Speaker 2: next week. As we know, there are guys with freakish

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Speaker 2: athletic ability. One guy on the list that NFL talent

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Speaker 2: evaluators believe is going to blow up the combine in

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Speaker 2: the testing is Texas A and M edge rusher Chamar Stewart.

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Speaker 2: They think he's going to put up numbers similar to

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Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker, the Georgia product who went first overall a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago. He is expected Shamar Stewart to

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Speaker 2: have the highest raw athletic score of all time at

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Speaker 2: the combine. He's six ' six, he's two eighty, he's

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Speaker 2: got an eight pack, and what he's supposed to test

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Speaker 2: at is supposed to be off the charts, not only

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Speaker 2: in terms of forty times but vertical eap broad jump.

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Speaker 2: He is supposed to absolutely kill it at the combine.

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Speaker 2: I know there's others, but this guy is getting the

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Speaker 2: most buzz and I think part of the reason why

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Speaker 2: is he doesn't have the sack production numbers, but what

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Speaker 2: they project him to do in the NFL is supposed

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Speaker 2: to be significantly better, and if he tests off the charts,

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Speaker 2: maybe people are convinced that he does just that. Right now,

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Speaker 2: he's kind of coming off the board somewhere in the

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Speaker 2: middle of round one, and I think it's that low,

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Speaker 2: primarily because he does not have the production numbers in

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Speaker 2: college and he was playing at a power for school

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Speaker 2: at A and M. So we'll have to see how

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Speaker 2: it shakes out. But Shamar Stewart a name to remember

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Speaker 2: going into the combine testing when defensive lineman tests, which

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Speaker 2: I believe is later in the week. Got to take

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01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: a break here, but when we come back, we're back

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 2: to your phone calls. The Obel Friday fan mail bag

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01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: is open. We'll lead off with Jim and Cheek to

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: Waga when we return, but open lines for you A

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Speaker 2: three five fifty. It's one bills Live presented by to

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Speaker 2: Lot of Health. This is Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 18: Radio cab casualties continue around the league.

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Speaker 2: The Bears have apparently told tight end Gerald Everett they

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01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: plan to release him. That's a move that's gonna free

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01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: up five and a half million dollars in cap space

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: for the Chicago Bears. So teams get to work already

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01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 2: on becoming cap compliant for the start of the new

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: league year on March twelve. But the OBL Friday fan

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01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: mail bag is open at eight oh three, oh five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. Those

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01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: are the numbers to jump on board, and we do

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 2: have open lines for you don't have time to hit

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01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 2: us up with a phone call, you can always tweet

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01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: your question to us at one Bill's Live. But let's

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Speaker 2: go to Jim in Cheek dewagan X.

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Speaker 7: What's up, Jim, Hi, Chris, thanks for taking the call.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 7: First of all, I'm not an agent, I'm not a lawyer,

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01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 7: and I am not a general manager, although I do

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Speaker 7: manage a fantasy football team. But what I wanted to

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Speaker 7: think about is you don't how they You mentioned this earlier,

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Speaker 7: and it made me think about this being creative with contracts.

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Speaker 7: If you could take a guy who you can't fit

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Speaker 7: under your cap, make his incentives so ridiculously easy to make.

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Speaker 7: You know, I'll give you another two million dollars if

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01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 7: you make your roster. You know they're going to make

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01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 7: a roster. We'll give you another two million dollars if

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 7: you play the first down? You know? So is that

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01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 7: something the league would reject? Or am I the first

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01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 7: one thinking about this? So you could get a guy

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Speaker 7: signed for a five year contract for five million dollars

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Speaker 7: a year, But your incentives are already built in there

1510
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 7: and that doesn't kind of gets your camp.

1511
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:58,759
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. There are two different distinctions between

1512
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: incentives in contracts, and thanks for the phone call, Jim.

1513
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: You have incentives that are called ltbes, which are likely

1514
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 2: to be earned, and then there are nltbes incentives that

1515
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 2: are not likely to be earned. If they are likely

1516
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 2: to be earned incentives, as you suggest, they count against

1517
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: the cap for the current season, whatever the dollar amount is.

1518
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,959
Speaker 2: Incentives that are not likely to be earned, like, for example,

1519
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: Josh Allen throws sixty touchdown passes in twenty twenty five,

1520
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 2: he gets an extra five million dollars that's not likely

1521
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:40,879
Speaker 2: to be earned and it's and those parameters are often

1522
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 2: judged by past performance. So for James Cook, you could

1523
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 2: put in an incentive that would say, if you get

1524
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: fifteen rushing touchdowns, you get five million dollars. That's a

1525
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,799
Speaker 2: likely to be earned incentive, but that five million built

1526
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 2: into the contract will count towards the cap because of

1527
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 2: what he achieved last year sixteen rushing touchdowns, that's now

1528
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 2: considered to be a likely to be earned incentive. So

1529
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 2: I understand, Jim, you're trying to get a work around

1530
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 2: here to benefit the Bills. But if it's deemed to

1531
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,759
Speaker 2: be likely to be earned incentive, it will count towards

1532
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: the cap. So creativity, yes, but a little bit more

1533
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: creative than that is what the Bills would have to

1534
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: be to make something like that work while not feeling

1535
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: the cap implications from it. Let's jump over to the

1536
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 2: tweets sheet. I want to see what kind of questions.

1537
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 3: You have over there.

1538
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: In the mailbag this week, Kevin asks what do you

1539
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: think of Joey Bosa, who is rumored to be a

1540
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 2: cap casualty at the beginning of free agency. It could

1541
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,879
Speaker 2: afford the Bills to keep their picks and or trade

1542
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: for more impact veterans. Yeah, Bosa represents a twenty five

1543
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 2: million dollar cap savings for the Charges. It seems like

1544
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 2: a no brainer to me. But Khalil Mack is also

1545
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: a free agents So the two guys that are deemed

1546
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 2: to be anyway their best two pass rushers could be

1547
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: on the way out. Mac turns thirty six. I don't

1548
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 2: think he's the same player he used to be. I

1549
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: think he still has some juice, but the Bills are

1550
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: kind of experiencing that right now with von Miller, who

1551
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 2: turns thirty six next month, is still under contract.

1552
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: Is he a cab casualty that they move on from.

1553
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 3: We'll have to see. Bosa to me.

1554
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 2: Hasn't been healthy on a consistent basis since twenty twenty one,

1555
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: So I don't see him as an option unless you

1556
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: want to bring him in here and he's willing to

1557
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 2: accept a one year prove it deal. If he's willing

1558
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 2: to accept that, I'll listen to it. What does it cost,

1559
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's probably gonna cost you still twelve

1560
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: million dollars. I'm inclined to go younger and more athletic

1561
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 2: speed on this defense desperately, and Bosa at this stage

1562
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: of his career doesn't bend the edge with speed the

1563
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: way he used to. He's always been more of a

1564
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 2: hand technician anyway. And while I believe when he's healthy

1565
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 2: he can still win, I just fear he's a guy

1566
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: that's gonna give you eight or nine games and beyond

1567
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 2: the sidelines for the rest of it, just based on

1568
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,480
Speaker 2: his past history. So I probably would not be interested

1569
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 2: in Joey Bosa at this stage. Of his career due

1570
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: to the past problems with him staying healthy on a

1571
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: consistent basis. Ed asks how has the increase in the

1572
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 2: cap changed the Bills thinking for this offseason. Talked to

1573
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,839
Speaker 2: this last earlier this hour with Frank Schwab from Yahu Sports.

1574
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: I think for a team like the Bills, it makes

1575
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 2: it easier to get cap compliant. I still think they're

1576
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 2: gonna be twelve to fourteen over even with the new

1577
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 2: cap numbers, so there's still work to be done. There's

1578
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 2: probably still going to be a few cap casualties, not

1579
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: nearly as many as we saw last year. You know,

1580
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 2: Diggs was traded, Mitch Morris was a cap casualty. Gabe

1581
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 2: Davis wasn't resigned because it was going to be too

1582
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: much money. So I think there will still be some

1583
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 2: cab casualties to get the Bills cap compliant, and then

1584
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna have to restructure some contracts as well,

1585
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 2: maybe ask some other guys to take pay cuts.

1586
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 3: We'll have to see what the list of to do.

1587
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: What is the list of things on the to do

1588
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 2: list for them to get cap compliant, and then after

1589
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 2: that create enough cap space to do some business in

1590
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 2: the free agent market and still have enough money.

1591
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 3: For your rookie pool. So some work to be.

1592
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: Done there, And yes, the cap increasing helps, but I

1593
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: don't think enough to change the course of what the

1594
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: Bills have in mind for the offseason.

1595
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,440
Speaker 3: Maybe they can get.

1596
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: Another free agent signing squeezed in under there, but I

1597
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be any thing dramatically different

1598
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 2: in terms of their offseason plans.

1599
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 3: Ron asks.

1600
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: The original proposal for the dynamic kickoff being downed in

1601
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 2: or sailing through the end zone was the thirty five.

1602
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: The Competition Committee changed it to the thirty being just

1603
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: five yards different. Seems most teams were comfortable kicking it deep.

1604
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: I'd like to see a change to the thirty five.

1605
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, yeah, Ron, this is going to be reviewed

1606
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: by the competition committee. The dynamic kickoff was put in

1607
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: for a one year trial run. I think the league

1608
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: likes the fact that concussions went down about forty percent

1609
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: with the alignment of how the new dynamic kickoff works.

1610
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 2: Players are closer to each other, they're further down the

1611
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: field if they're covering it, so guys aren't having the

1612
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: high speed collisions that we've seen from the old school kickoff.

1613
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 2: That's a positive, But to your point, I think the

1614
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 2: rate of return of returns that were made, they were

1615
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 2: hoping for a sharper increase. I think it went from

1616
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: twenty two percent under the old kickoff rules to about

1617
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: thirty two to thirty three percent of the kicks being returned,

1618
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: So there was an increase in ten percent, but I

1619
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: think they wanted that to be higher. The way to

1620
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,719
Speaker 2: make it higher and keep the dynamic kickoff in place

1621
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 2: is to go back to the way they originally drew

1622
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: it up, which is what you're suggesting. Touchback in the

1623
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 2: end zone comes out to the thirty five. Well, now

1624
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: the kick covers team's going to think long and hard

1625
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 2: about that.

1626
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 3: Do you want to put it in the end zone?

1627
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 2: Let them take a knee and get it at the

1628
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: thirty five with only sixty five yards of the end zone.

1629
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: If you've got a defense that's in the bottom half

1630
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: of the league, you're probably not doing that. So I

1631
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 2: would be a proponent of putting it at the thirty five.

1632
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 2: If it goes through the back of the end zone

1633
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 2: or is down in the end zone, yeah, take a knee,

1634
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 2: goes to the thirty five. Now I think teams will

1635
01:23:56,640 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 2: work harder to drop that kickoff into the land zone

1636
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: between the twenty and the goal line, and that's going

1637
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: to force returns, which ultimately makes for a more exciting play.

1638
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm with you, Ron. I'd like to see

1639
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: it back to the original line that they had designed

1640
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 2: in the first place, and then in the eleventh hour

1641
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: they switched it to the thirty. Move it to the

1642
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 2: thirty five. I think you get even more returns than

1643
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: you had last year. And he asks, does the potential

1644
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: change in the structure of the defense of just beans

1645
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: thinking can Darren Johnson play corner or safety to allow

1646
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 2: a base four to three, as was mentioned earlier in

1647
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 2: the week, would significantly affect the free agency and the draft.

1648
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1649
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 2: I think this is just a theory of mine, But

1650
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: we know every off season the Bills worked long and

1651
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 2: hard as a coaching staff and as a personnel department

1652
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: to ascertain where the trends are going in the league,

1653
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: and the Bills were on the cutting edge of that

1654
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: this past year because they were one of the eight

1655
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: teams that ran the ball more than forty eight percent

1656
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: of the time. Seven of those eight teams were playoff teams.

1657
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 2: So they were right on board and right on the

1658
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: cutting edge of incorporating more of a run element into

1659
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: their offense this past year. I think the new thing

1660
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: that we're gonna see this year is if you don't

1661
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 2: see more base defense, you're gonna see more hybrid safety

1662
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: nickel defense. And what I mean by that is you're

1663
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: gonna have big nickel whether it's three safeties with one

1664
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: being a hybrid type linebacker in the run front who

1665
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: also has the ability to cover a slot receiver. Those

1666
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: guys are hard to find. There are some in this

1667
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: draft like Emon Worri, the safety from South Carolina. He

1668
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 2: can cover players in the slot and he's six three,

1669
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 2: two thirty. I mean that's that's a linebacker size in

1670
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: today's NFL, and yet he has the coverage skills to

1671
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 2: do that. He's gonna probably be a first round pick

1672
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 2: somewhere in the second half of round one. I think

1673
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: more teams are going to be looking for players like that,

1674
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: either in the draft or they're going to convince a

1675
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 2: veteran safety, hey, you've got cover skills, We're gonna use

1676
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 2: you as a hybrid slot slash run defending corner or

1677
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 2: safety in this hybrid defense.

1678
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 3: I think that's where it's going.

1679
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 2: I think with the proliferation of the run game this

1680
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: past season, it's going to prompt more defensive coordinators to

1681
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: try to find a hybrid positionless player who can play

1682
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 2: either one of the two safety positions but also possibly

1683
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: play slot corner and be a force in the run

1684
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: front by being a bigger body, so players like Taron

1685
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: Johnson aren't beat to a pulp by the end of

1686
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: the season with guards pulling and coming around and knocking

1687
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 2: them into next week. You know Terran's gonna be a

1688
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: thirty year old player next year. I think that kind

1689
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 2: of wear and tear is a little unrealistic to get

1690
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 2: everything you want out of Terran Johnson. When it's third

1691
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: and nine, Taron Johnson's on the field.

1692
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 10: But if it's.

1693
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: First and five and they're going three wide, Arran's not

1694
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 2: on the field. For me, put a bigger safety on

1695
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 2: the field that can cover that slot receiver, knowing full

1696
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 2: well it's likely to be a run play. I think

1697
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: that's where the defense is going, and we often see

1698
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 2: the Bills copy what the Chiefs do a year later.

1699
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 3: What did the Chiefs do this year? They took their

1700
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 3: All Pro nickel corner Trent McDuffie, and they put him

1701
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 3: at outside corner and put a safety Shamari Connor at

1702
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 3: nickel corner because he was a bigger, bulkier player.

1703
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 2: Because they were experiencing the same thing the Bills were

1704
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: when they were going nickel defense. They were running guards

1705
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 2: coming around and pulling and taking Taron Johnson out of

1706
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: the run front. And now you only got two linebackers

1707
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 2: at the second level and you got to hang on

1708
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: for dear life. Chiefs were experiencing the same thing. People

1709
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 2: were targeting Trent McDuffie, who's an undersized corner as well,

1710
01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: and so they made a switch. They put McDuffie out,

1711
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 2: put safety Shamari Connor in the nickel. He was capable

1712
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 2: in coverage. I don't know if he was outstanding, but

1713
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: he was capable and he made a lot of plays.

1714
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 2: So I could see the Bills going that way as

1715
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,560
Speaker 2: they rebuild this defense this offseason.

1716
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 3: Got to take a break here.

1717
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: I'll close it up with some final thoughts from the

1718
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 2: obl Friday mail bag next here on One Bill's Live.

1719
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 3: All right back here on One Bill's Live on a Friday.

1720
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us this afternoon. Appreciate it, especially with

1721
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 3: Steve under the weather. Who hope Steve's doing better?

1722
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 2: Final question from Lauren in the OBL Friday mailbag, question

1723
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 2: about Dorian Williams and Alec Anderson. They're primed and ready

1724
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 2: to start and cost effective. Any chance Milano and or

1725
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 2: Edwards are traded or release candidates for long term salary

1726
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: camp flexibility, I don't think Edwards is.

1727
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 3: He's on an affordable deal.

1728
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: He's still under contract and moved into the starting lineup

1729
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 2: and he represents continuity up there, and it was one

1730
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: of the best offensive lines in football, and Anderson served

1731
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 2: well in his role as the sixth offensive lineman, so

1732
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't anticipate that changing. And if you have an injury,

1733
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 2: he's the first man off the bench and you got

1734
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 2: potentially a starting caliber guy. As for Milano, I don't

1735
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 2: think you can rule out him being either a contract

1736
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: restructure candidate or perhaps yes even a post June first

1737
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 2: release candidate. You got to match value with cost, and

1738
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 2: with what Dorian Williams showed you. He was the team's

1739
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 2: leading tackler last year and he only started nine games.

1740
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 2: That tells you something. Steve and I live from the

1741
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: combine on Monday.

1742
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 3: We'll see you there