Speaker 1: Hey, they're folkes. At is Thursday, September fourth, And did
Speaker 1: you see all of that yelling and streaming and sarcasm
Speaker 1: at the Senate today? For three hours we saw the
Speaker 1: people who are representing us in DC act worse than
Speaker 1: maybe we see some kids in elementary school. And with that,
Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and tj am I Robes.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of being a little bit of a smart ass,
Speaker 1: kind of being a little facetious, but this wasn't a
Speaker 1: great display RFK Junior testifying in the Senate today And Robes,
Speaker 1: you actually said it while we were watching. This is uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: It is and I was actually glad that all the
Speaker 2: kids were in school and didn't actually have to watch
Speaker 2: adults act like children. And the point being, if there
Speaker 2: was actually something substantive, if something actually came out of
Speaker 2: it that was a game changer or at least informative.
Speaker 3: Or hopeful, or something got.
Speaker 2: Accomplished, maybe maybe you could justify some of the heated exchanges.
Speaker 2: But this was just for political show, This was just
Speaker 2: for headlines. This was just for in my personal opinion,
Speaker 2: for lawmakers to use. And I believe RFK actually said
Speaker 2: this to use in their next promotional video to say,
Speaker 2: see I'm fighting for the citizens, I'm standing up to whatever, whomever,
Speaker 2: And look RFK Junior looked just as childish, laughing, ignoring, being.
Speaker 3: Calling people names. I mean, it just it was. I
Speaker 3: thought everybody had egg on their face.
Speaker 1: Nobody looked good. And again it's okay to fight and
Speaker 1: be passionate, I should say be passionate. This was it was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't substance if it was personal. So it seems
Speaker 1: like a lot of ego clashes up there.
Speaker 3: And performative it did, say.
Speaker 1: And when you're talking about the most serious, isn't it
Speaker 1: the most critical thing? When you talk about kids in education,
Speaker 1: the only thing more important to that is children in
Speaker 1: their health. This is what was on the line today
Speaker 1: and the performance of everyone today. I know the senators,
Speaker 1: they got good hearts and they're fighting the good fights
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. But there were too many
Speaker 1: times today robes where these aren't adults acting like adults,
Speaker 1: and they weren't being respectful and they know that, and
Speaker 1: that was very difficult to watch during the day today
Speaker 1: when you're talking about kids health and arguments are being
Speaker 1: made that people are actually dying because of things that
Speaker 1: are happening at HHS and RFK Junior and the Senators.
Speaker 1: There was no sense of working on the same team
Speaker 1: and having different right, we have different approaches. We all
Speaker 1: want to protect kids, we have different approaches. Never even
Speaker 1: felt like that we have the same goal.
Speaker 2: Even yeah, and I mean look and yes, it was
Speaker 2: about childhood vaccine. It was also about every American's access
Speaker 2: to vaccines, especially even those who are at high risk,
Speaker 2: people who are compromised, the elderly, people who can't afford
Speaker 2: certain medications, or people who don't need to jump through
Speaker 2: another hoop to have access to vaccines. So this affects
Speaker 2: the health of millions of Americans and certainly the children
Speaker 2: of our country.
Speaker 3: And so yes, people are passionate about it.
Speaker 2: I would argue, regardless of which side you're on in
Speaker 2: terms of vaccines, if you're a proponent of what JFU
Speaker 2: sorry RFK Junior is trying to accomplish, or if you're
Speaker 2: against them, it didn't even matter what side of the
Speaker 2: aisle or what side of the argument you were on.
Speaker 2: You had to feel icky about just watching the process
Speaker 2: of adults fighting like kids.
Speaker 1: It makes you feel good about the direction we're heading
Speaker 1: and that something is going to get done. But to
Speaker 1: give you all, did you call it up? You know
Speaker 1: that a lot's been going on at HHS the past
Speaker 1: seven months, ever since RFK Junior got in there, But
Speaker 1: in the past month things have been even more heated.
Speaker 1: Of course, he got a lot of criticism following this
Speaker 1: shooting at the CDC down in Atlanta. He got a
Speaker 1: lot of heat because of vaccine recommendations. He got a
Speaker 1: lot of heat because the CDC director that he hired
Speaker 1: was fired after a month. All these things are happening
Speaker 1: right now. But this was already a previously scheduled Senate
Speaker 1: Finance Committee hearing in which they wanted him to testify,
Speaker 1: and it just so happened. We're just days away from
Speaker 1: him firing the CDC director. So as we knew this
Speaker 1: was going to be hot, we knew and we knew
Speaker 1: they were gonna he might be the one. Huh Is
Speaker 1: he the favorite punching bag in the administration?
Speaker 3: He's in the top three.
Speaker 1: I would say to name the other two.
Speaker 2: Uh, Nope, that can just be whatever you all want
Speaker 2: to fill in in the blinks, but he's definitely up there.
Speaker 2: And look, we expected Democrats to be fiery when addressing him,
Speaker 2: and sometimes they ask questions, sometimes they just made political statements,
Speaker 2: but several of them called on him to resign or
Speaker 2: to be fired. They said it right to his face.
Speaker 2: But several Republicans also were critical of RFK Junior as well,
Speaker 2: and that was of note and maybe not as expected.
Speaker 1: They weren't as harsh. Clearly they weren't. But there was
Speaker 1: even one senator who a Republican said I've voted for you,
Speaker 1: and I'm concerned about some of the things you've been doing,
Speaker 1: so that some of that sounded bipartisan. But once they
Speaker 1: got going it good Lord have mercy. Now was a
Speaker 1: couple of highlights they wanted to get at. Of course,
Speaker 1: vaccine policy, the firing of the CDC director, the COVID
Speaker 1: vaccine recommendations there were high on the list, and they
Speaker 1: wanted to get at something that the former CDC director
Speaker 1: who was just fired said about why she was fired.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a second. He called her
Speaker 1: a liar, flat out said she is a liar.
Speaker 3: Multiple times, reiterated it.
Speaker 1: He had several times. He could have walked it back.
Speaker 1: He emphasized it several times. But before we get into
Speaker 1: the substance. Let's get into the style RFK junior at times. Look,
Speaker 1: it's only one way to put it. Didn't necessarily behave
Speaker 1: like an adult.
Speaker 3: Now, he chuckled. Look, he was receiving a lot of heat.
Speaker 2: So I was actually trying to imagine being in his position,
Speaker 2: regardless of how any of us feel about his positions
Speaker 2: or even about him in general. That can't be easy
Speaker 2: to be sitting on the hot seat and have senators
Speaker 2: calling for your resignation, calling you lots of negative things,
Speaker 2: to just try to put it mildly. But for his
Speaker 2: reaction to be pulling out his phone, ignoring a senator
Speaker 2: while they were speaking, yelling at them, cutting them off,
Speaker 2: speaking over them, like they were actually yelling at each other.
Speaker 3: Back and forth on top of one another. There were
Speaker 3: actual shouting matches.
Speaker 1: You're not overstating at all. I could not believe what
Speaker 1: we were watching. Look, we've seen contentious hearings over the years,
Speaker 1: and you know what, usually in every hearing you see,
Speaker 1: there's one exchange that makes the highlight real. If you
Speaker 1: will on the news that you got anything to pick from,
Speaker 1: If you just want to pick out some yelling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will tell you a lot of times
Speaker 2: when you have it here and there. You had even
Speaker 2: said earlier, Hey, this is going to be appointment television.
Speaker 2: We have to watch this. This is going there's going
Speaker 2: to be fireworks, and sure we were expecting that. I
Speaker 2: have to tell you, like an hour into it.
Speaker 3: I wanted I wanted to turn it off. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: felt and yes, uncomfortable. I actually I felt irritable. Nobody
Speaker 3: wins in these situations.
Speaker 2: And again there was no information gleaned, there was no resolution,
Speaker 2: there was no there was.
Speaker 3: No headway made. It was just adults yelling at each other.
Speaker 1: No, don't you believe, or at least I do. I
Speaker 1: think most people viewed it if they had a chance
Speaker 1: to the way we did. There are people on the
Speaker 1: left and on the right who will watch this and
Speaker 1: always see it through the lens of their political leanings.
Speaker 1: There go go get after him, rooting for the Democratic senators,
Speaker 1: and some Republicans might have seen that being too harsh
Speaker 1: on them, or they might defend him in the administration.
Speaker 1: But don't you think most people are in somewhere in
Speaker 1: the middle that watching this, you couldn't feel good about
Speaker 1: where we are.
Speaker 2: I think this is why people don't vote TJ. I
Speaker 2: think this is why people get apathetic. They just stop
Speaker 2: caring because it doesn't matter. And I understand because once
Speaker 2: you look. I remember, even early on in my career,
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a political reporter.
Speaker 3: My dream was to go to DC.
Speaker 2: I got to DC, and I started reporting on the
Speaker 2: things and the people who I was excited about being
Speaker 2: able to be a part of the system and explaining
Speaker 2: things to I got so disenfranchised. I got so turned
Speaker 2: off by the whole process. I remember thinking, that's so
Speaker 2: funny that at one point I actually bought into all
Speaker 2: of this and thought this was all real.
Speaker 3: And I just got turned off.
Speaker 2: And I just watching this today, those feelings all came
Speaker 2: back where I just was. It was sad, and it
Speaker 2: just makes you want to say, nothing's ever gonna get done,
Speaker 2: this country is doomed. It really makes you feel pessimistic.
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to continue that feeling, but that
Speaker 2: is what happens. I think when Americans witness what we
Speaker 2: saw today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all got to see it. It was live.
Speaker 1: This was a time. Look, we we are not we
Speaker 1: have where this is no indictment of the left or
Speaker 1: the right, no no criticism, no position of any kind,
Speaker 1: but independent so hard. It's unmistakable when I say there
Speaker 1: was some childlike behavior. Look, there were times he wouldn't
Speaker 1: even look at some of the sinners. He turned away
Speaker 1: and wouldn't acknowledge them when they wrapped questioning. I know
Speaker 1: he was upset, and sometimes you just react as a
Speaker 1: human being. Man. Decorum is a big deal. And just
Speaker 1: it wasn't a good display and a good show today,
Speaker 1: And I mean taking your phone out and scrolling during
Speaker 1: a Senate hearing in which you are the witness. But okay,
Speaker 1: how do you I don't know.
Speaker 2: There was disrespect flying all over the place today.
Speaker 3: There was zero respect.
Speaker 1: A big point of contention today, of course, and she
Speaker 1: was talked about more than anybody, right. Husan Moneras who
Speaker 1: was just fired by Secretary RFK Junior as a CDC
Speaker 1: director only after only about a month now, she claims,
Speaker 1: and others and certainly Democrats, claim that she was fired
Speaker 1: because she wouldn't get in line with the administration, that
Speaker 1: she just she wouldn't bend the knee, kiss the ring
Speaker 1: or whatever and do it she was told and specifically Robes.
Speaker 1: She wrote in The Wall Street Journal that she was
Speaker 1: fired after she wouldn't go along with with just kind
Speaker 1: of rubber stamping some of the vaccine policy, and she
Speaker 1: just wouldn't go along with and she said that's why
Speaker 1: she was fired, right, And this was it got like,
Speaker 1: my eyes got big, my jaw dropped, and I even
Speaker 1: laughed at some points during some of this back.
Speaker 3: I think both of.
Speaker 2: Us at this point our jaws both dropped at the
Speaker 2: same time. And it wasn't planned. It was almost cartoonish.
Speaker 2: We're like, what are we actually witnessing? So yes, Manara
Speaker 2: said she refused to do what she was told without
Speaker 2: actually seeing the science behind what she was told to approve.
Speaker 2: And yes, RFK Junior said that's a lie. And they said,
Speaker 2: are you calling her a liar? Yes, I'm calling her
Speaker 2: a liar. And then they said, well, then why did
Speaker 2: you fire her? And he said because I asked her
Speaker 2: if she was a trustworthy person and she said no.
Speaker 1: My that that was the moment like what, Okay, this
Speaker 1: doesn't even be as hard to imagine.
Speaker 2: We need context. If that did happen, there had to
Speaker 2: be a larger conversation or some context to explain why
Speaker 2: anybody would say that they weren't trustworthy.
Speaker 3: Who would say that to their boss. If your boss
Speaker 3: asked you if you're trustworthy, you would say yes. Even
Speaker 3: if that means you're a liar, you would still say yes.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So for someone to say no, she had to be
Speaker 2: pushed into saying that because it was in context of
Speaker 2: something that she was not okay with.
Speaker 1: And when she was asked the question, excuse me, when
Speaker 1: he was asked about this. It was during Senator Warren's questioning.
Speaker 1: And Senator Warren of Massachusetts Democrat, you know her, know
Speaker 1: her well at this point, but she is one who
Speaker 1: rails against a big compani's, big pharmaceutical companies, big business.
Speaker 1: So she was all in and she was prepared. She
Speaker 1: is good at this. Give her credit. But when she
Speaker 1: asked him the question, he gave the answer about she
Speaker 1: asked if she was trusted with she said Senator Sanders
Speaker 1: was sitting next to Senator Warren. He just started laughing.
Speaker 2: He started laughing. There was a man behind her who
Speaker 2: started laughing, and then there was even a woman sitting
Speaker 2: behind RFK Junior who started to People were laughing because
Speaker 2: they couldn't believe what they were hearing, and.
Speaker 1: We couldn't either. And here's the thing. Folks. That moment
Speaker 1: was a big one, but they were just getting warmed up.
Speaker 1: We'll explain why one senator insisted that RFK Junior be
Speaker 1: sworn in before he started. Also more about Senator Warren
Speaker 1: that back and forth you're going to be seeing on
Speaker 1: TV an awful, awful lot.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: The senator from New Mexico, in a strange moment, took
Speaker 1: his lapel pen off and said he was going to
Speaker 1: give it to RFK Junior, but then just as quickly
Speaker 1: said nah, you don't deserve it.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Amy and TJ. We are talking about
Speaker 2: that fiery Senate Finance Committee hearing where RFK Junior was
Speaker 2: on the hot seat, and it didn't just get hot,
Speaker 2: it was burning up.
Speaker 3: I felt like I was watching a hellscape.
Speaker 2: Actually, it was like, these are our trusted politicians who
Speaker 2: we've elected and appointed to represent the United States, to
Speaker 2: put our best people to make the best decisions for
Speaker 2: our health, for our safety, for our humanity. What was
Speaker 2: I What were we watching today?
Speaker 1: This is only only folks, not an indictment of everybody
Speaker 1: and everybody individually, but the process and how we go
Speaker 1: about doing this in our politics today. It just if
Speaker 1: that's where we are, we will never get anything done
Speaker 1: that was. And we've seen tough ones and we expect
Speaker 1: them to be tough, and there's certain questioning. The opposite
Speaker 1: party always is hard on the witness, if you're from
Speaker 1: the opposite party that the witness is from. We get that.
Speaker 1: We understand that this still was different today roams. This
Speaker 1: was a little more contentious and heated and trifling at
Speaker 1: times than we're used to seeing, and it just wasn't
Speaker 1: a good display. And we're kind of kind of disheartened
Speaker 1: by watching it today, where you're watching a finance committee
Speaker 1: hearing about something as important as this country's health and
Speaker 1: children in particular, and you wanted to turn it off
Speaker 1: because I can't watch this is too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, think about what are some of I
Speaker 2: remember being in local news or even like at MSNBC
Speaker 2: and watching other countries politicians like actually go to blows start.
Speaker 3: I thought we were getting close.
Speaker 2: To that, that's how pissed off lawmakers were. But you know,
Speaker 2: you see in other countries people actually jumping over and
Speaker 2: taking swings at one another. I felt like we were
Speaker 2: really close to that.
Speaker 1: In moments, some of this felt personal. They weren't yelling, no,
Speaker 1: I say the data is this, and no, I've seen
Speaker 1: these numbers, and no, I disagree. It was didn't you
Speaker 1: take money from this pharmaceutical company? Yeah, A lot of
Speaker 1: stuff was personal. They were throwing jabs at each other.
Speaker 1: How many times did he say to one of them,
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about. I have no
Speaker 1: idea what you're talking about. That's just gibberous generation stuff up,
Speaker 1: He yelled us yelled this at several sentences.
Speaker 2: That was his answer to a lot of pointed questions
Speaker 2: or at least even statements, just basically calling them liars,
Speaker 2: calling them idiots, calling them morons, saying you don't even
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. And he said it just
Speaker 2: so just flippantly, like you moron. I mean, he didn't
Speaker 2: use the word moron, but that is basically what he
Speaker 2: was saying. So Senator Widen from Oregon, a Democrat from Oregon,
Speaker 2: actually asked that RFK be sworn in because he said,
Speaker 2: this witness has lied to the senator.
Speaker 1: He's the ranking member. This is how the thing started.
Speaker 1: It started by the ranking member saying we should swear
Speaker 1: him in because this witness is a liar. That's how
Speaker 1: we started.
Speaker 2: The chairman said, no, we're going to treat him like
Speaker 2: other witnesses from the administration, the chairman being Republican. But yes,
Speaker 2: there were several people who tried to get the chairman
Speaker 2: to step in and he did not, But yeah, he
Speaker 2: Senator Wyden said that the unwillingness is a message that
Speaker 2: it is acceptable to lie to the Senate Finance Committee.
Speaker 3: I mean, how many times were people.
Speaker 2: Called liars in this committee hearing, including RFK Junior himself
Speaker 2: right off.
Speaker 1: The bat, and a lot of people will agree with that,
Speaker 1: that he has made false statements, that he has been
Speaker 1: pushing misinformation, and they say flat out he has come
Speaker 1: to the Senate before and told them things that are untrue. Ah,
Speaker 1: but that's how it started. It kind of set a
Speaker 1: tone for the direction things were going to go. The
Speaker 1: other big point of contingent, of course, they how many
Speaker 1: folks I can't remember actually a rope CDC how many
Speaker 1: of them fired? Hasn't it been thousands?
Speaker 2: Oh? I was going to say thousands, Yes, yes, thousands.
Speaker 2: And obviously just last week the CDC director was fired.
Speaker 2: There were four other top CDC officials who resigned that
Speaker 2: week as well. So you've got that not just employees
Speaker 2: being fired, but you have the folks in charge either
Speaker 2: being fired or resigning in protest.
Speaker 1: And he justified all of this with these stats. He said,
Speaker 1: eight out of ten young men can't even qualify for
Speaker 1: military service, and seventy six percent of Americans have a
Speaker 1: chronic disease. He said, quote, we're the sickest country in
Speaker 1: the world, and we have to fire some of those
Speaker 1: people at the CDC. He's essentially pointing out, look, how
Speaker 1: sick we are. Why were you you telling me that
Speaker 1: these folks at Health and Human Services are doing a
Speaker 1: good job when the country is the sickest in the world.
Speaker 1: He tried to make that type of connection, like, what
Speaker 1: do you want me to do? Things are going well,
Speaker 1: so you want all these sane people. That's the point
Speaker 1: he was trying to make. At least don't know if
Speaker 1: it landed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure that it did.
Speaker 2: But Senator Warren landed her plane because she was ready,
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, and her big issue was who has
Speaker 2: access to the vaccine. She kept saying, you told us,
Speaker 2: you swore to us that this vaccine, the COVID vaccine,
Speaker 2: would be available to everyone, and it was just this
Speaker 2: back and forth, where RFK Junior just kept repeating, I
Speaker 2: am not taking COVID vaccines away from people, and she says, effectively,
Speaker 2: you are, though, because if you're telling people, if they
Speaker 2: don't fit into a certain category, that they then have
Speaker 2: to go to their doctor to get a prescription, and
Speaker 2: some doctors aren't even sure who they can write prescriptions for,
Speaker 2: and so you are effectively by not recommending that the
Speaker 2: COVID vaccine be available to everybody, by only recommending that
Speaker 2: it is available to at high risk patients, and who
Speaker 2: is that? That is murky as well. You are effectively
Speaker 2: denying or taking away vaccines from people. And they just
Speaker 2: kept saying the same thing, back and forth, back and forth,
Speaker 2: and nothing resonated with either of them.
Speaker 1: And then he threw in there in the middle of
Speaker 1: this back and forth that she's taken eight hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty five thousand dollars from pharmaceutical company. So he was
Speaker 1: ready to try to push back or call other folks out.
Speaker 1: This was a this was a con you know, this
Speaker 1: was an important back and forth because the subject matter
Speaker 1: was real and this is the one that a lot
Speaker 1: of people are struggling with trying to figure out getting
Speaker 1: a COVID vaccine. He said, he's not taking it away.
Speaker 1: But to your point, right, other people are saying you're
Speaker 1: making it more difficult, or I have to jump through
Speaker 1: a hoop, or I have to pay so I don't
Speaker 1: have the same access as I can.
Speaker 2: Correct, So any one of us can walk in to
Speaker 2: CBS whatever Dwayne read, pharmacy you have, and you can
Speaker 2: get a flu vaccine. That was up until a month ago.
Speaker 2: The same case for the COVID booster or the COVID vaccine.
Speaker 2: That has changed because what the CDC recommends impacts what
Speaker 2: pharmacies supply, and when doctors have to write prescriptions and
Speaker 2: who they can write them for and what insurance companies
Speaker 2: will cover which, so it does.
Speaker 3: Matter what the CDC recommends. It has a huge impact.
Speaker 1: Got nowhere on that, Senator Sanders was a to jump in.
Speaker 1: Now he picked up on that earlier point because Senator
Speaker 1: Warren wrapped up and she was the one who had
Speaker 1: been asking about why the CDC director was fired Robes,
Speaker 1: and she got him to say that she was a
Speaker 1: liar and that no, I fired her because I asked
Speaker 1: her if she was trustworthy and she said no. Now,
Speaker 1: Senator Sanders jumped in and the first thing he said was, Hey,
Speaker 1: I need some clarification. I want to make sure I
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. And I think I use the
Speaker 1: word seriously. Are you seriously saying that? She responded to you, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not a trustworthy person. RFK Junior had a response
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 3: Robe he said no. She didn't say no, I'm not
Speaker 3: a trustworthy person. She said no. And the way he
Speaker 3: said that was, yeah, it was with it, it was
Speaker 3: with purpose.
Speaker 1: He said it into the microphone. He said, she said
Speaker 1: no and leaned back in his chair. He said nut
Speaker 1: and didn'dra to elaborate and left it at that. But
Speaker 1: it was that kind of. It was petty at times,
Speaker 1: It really.
Speaker 2: Was, absolutely and probably it got even more petty when
Speaker 2: we heard from Senator Ben Ray Luhan, Democrat from New Mexico.
Speaker 3: It was a ridiculous back and forth.
Speaker 2: It actually was kind of I was even confused in moments.
Speaker 2: It was so contentious, but I wasn't really even clear
Speaker 2: what they were so upset about.
Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it. They were yelling
Speaker 1: at each other and I'm not sure why.
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, what, It's almost like they were
Speaker 2: creating an argument for the fun of it.
Speaker 3: It almost felt like that anyway.
Speaker 2: That's when RFK Junior said to Senator Luhan, you're talking gibberish.
Speaker 2: He tried to make some racial thing about it, saying, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you can't understand my new Mexico accent. And
Speaker 2: then it just spiraled from there because I'm not even
Speaker 2: sure how to explain the story that the senator told
Speaker 2: about the lapel pin he had. He said he had
Speaker 2: a starfish pin and it represented even the smallest creatures
Speaker 2: are impacted.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And he said he was gonna give it to him,
Speaker 2: but now because of what he's heard, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to give him this pen. He said, I'm sorry that
Speaker 2: you're not worthy of this nice little pen or pen.
Speaker 2: I'm going to pray for you instead.
Speaker 3: But it was just odd.
Speaker 1: It was but he was ready and he made some
Speaker 1: reference some little girl gave this to me, and I
Speaker 1: was going to give it to you, And what was
Speaker 1: he really?
Speaker 2: We were We raised our eyebrows were like, what's happening
Speaker 2: right now? It was like, I was going to give
Speaker 2: you this, but now I'm not gonna And that's really
Speaker 2: what it felt like it was.
Speaker 3: It really felt like.
Speaker 2: Children, That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 3: Like, too bad is this was going to be yours,
Speaker 3: but now it's not.
Speaker 1: And he took it off like it was a whole motion,
Speaker 1: like it was. Look, we are not in any way,
Speaker 1: not in all admire respect what these senators do, what
Speaker 1: they had to do to get the positions they have,
Speaker 1: how smart they are, how capable many of them are.
Speaker 1: And I think overwhelmingly that most of them have their
Speaker 1: hearts in the right place. I think so. But this
Speaker 1: was one of those things that everybody got caught up
Speaker 1: in and it felt like everybody got dragged down by it,
Speaker 1: and it was for me or abes. It was a disappointment.
Speaker 1: It was difficult to watch. And if you are carrying
Speaker 1: American you can't I don't care you a Democratic Republican,
Speaker 1: you can't feel good at your side won or we
Speaker 1: made our point or this is just one like we
Speaker 1: can't do this constantly. Nothing got what got accomplished.
Speaker 3: It is nothing.
Speaker 1: I would dare somebody to find me something today that
Speaker 1: happened that benefited a child in Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of emotion and it might have
Speaker 2: been intended to create change or to shake RFK Junior up,
Speaker 2: or to get the world or at least americans watching
Speaker 2: and listening who maybe don't realize what's happening. But it
Speaker 2: just turned a lot of us off. I think it
Speaker 2: might have had the opposite effect ultimately.
Speaker 1: And folk, we'll be honest, we didn't think we'd do
Speaker 1: an episode about this initially today, and we were prepared.
Speaker 1: As we were watching, we were kind of taking notes
Speaker 1: on the fundamentals, taking notes on the actual policies, taking
Speaker 1: notes on what's happening. And we stopped doing that because
Speaker 1: there wasn't enough of it and it wasn't substance. So
Speaker 1: we decided to hop on because right now, folks, we
Speaker 1: are kind of venting, and this is cathartic. We're just
Speaker 1: saying how we felt about what we watched, and we
Speaker 1: don't know if you felt the same, but we got
Speaker 1: to try this again, and we got to do better
Speaker 1: than we did today.
Speaker 2: Ropes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully the next Senate hearing will go better. We'll
Speaker 3: be sure to watch and pass along our notes to
Speaker 3: all of you. But thank you for listening to us, everybody.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you hanging with us on this Thursday evening.
Speaker 3: I Ami Robot alongside t J. Holmes. Have a great
Speaker 3: rest of your night. Everybody,