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Speaker 1: Hey, they're folkes. At is Thursday, September fourth, And did

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Speaker 1: you see all of that yelling and streaming and sarcasm

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Speaker 1: people who are representing us in DC act worse than

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Speaker 1: maybe we see some kids in elementary school. And with that,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and tj am I Robes.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of being a little bit of a smart ass,

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Speaker 1: kind of being a little facetious, but this wasn't a

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Speaker 1: great display RFK Junior testifying in the Senate today And Robes,

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Speaker 1: you actually said it while we were watching. This is uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: It is and I was actually glad that all the

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Speaker 2: adults act like children. And the point being, if there

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Speaker 3: Or hopeful, or something got.

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Speaker 2: Accomplished, maybe maybe you could justify some of the heated exchanges.

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Speaker 2: But this was just for political show, This was just

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Speaker 2: for headlines. This was just for in my personal opinion,

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Speaker 2: see I'm fighting for the citizens, I'm standing up to whatever, whomever,

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Speaker 2: And look RFK Junior looked just as childish, laughing, ignoring, being.

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Speaker 3: Calling people names. I mean, it just it was. I

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Speaker 1: Nobody looked good. And again it's okay to fight and

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Speaker 1: It wasn't substance if it was personal. So it seems

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Speaker 3: And performative it did, say.

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Speaker 1: And when you're talking about the most serious, isn't it

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Speaker 1: and the performance of everyone today. I know the senators,

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Speaker 1: There was no sense of working on the same team

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Speaker 2: Even yeah, and I mean look and yes, it was

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Speaker 3: And so yes, people are passionate about it.

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Speaker 1: It makes you feel good about the direction we're heading

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Speaker 1: He had several times. He could have walked it back.

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Speaker 2: So I was actually trying to imagine being in his position,

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Speaker 1: You're not overstating at all. I could not believe what

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Speaker 1: He's the ranking member. This is how the thing started.

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Speaker 2: The chairman said, no, we're going to treat him like

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many times were people.

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Speaker 2: But Senator Warren landed her plane because she was ready,

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Speaker 1: Got nowhere on that, Senator Sanders was a to jump in.

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Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it. They were yelling

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Speaker 2: That's when RFK Junior said to Senator Luhan, you're talking gibberish.

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Speaker 2: We were We raised our eyebrows were like, what's happening

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Speaker 2: right now? It was like, I was going to give

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Speaker 2: you this, but now I'm not gonna And that's really

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Speaker 2: what it felt like it was.

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Speaker 3: It really felt like.

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Speaker 2: Children, That's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 3: Like, too bad is this was going to be yours,

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Speaker 3: but now it's not.

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Speaker 1: And he took it off like it was a whole motion,

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Speaker 1: like it was. Look, we are not in any way,

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Speaker 1: not in all admire respect what these senators do, what

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Speaker 1: they had to do to get the positions they have,

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Speaker 1: how smart they are, how capable many of them are.

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Speaker 1: And I think overwhelmingly that most of them have their

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Speaker 1: hearts in the right place. I think so. But this

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Speaker 1: was one of those things that everybody got caught up

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Speaker 1: in and it felt like everybody got dragged down by it,

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Speaker 1: and it was for me or abes. It was a disappointment.

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Speaker 1: It was difficult to watch. And if you are carrying

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Speaker 1: American you can't I don't care you a Democratic Republican,

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Speaker 1: you can't feel good at your side won or we

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Speaker 1: made our point or this is just one like we

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Speaker 1: can't do this constantly. Nothing got what got accomplished.

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Speaker 3: It is nothing.

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Speaker 1: I would dare somebody to find me something today that

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Speaker 1: happened that benefited a child in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of emotion and it might have

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Speaker 2: been intended to create change or to shake RFK Junior up,

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Speaker 2: or to get the world or at least americans watching

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Speaker 2: and listening who maybe don't realize what's happening. But it

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Speaker 2: just turned a lot of us off. I think it

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Speaker 2: might have had the opposite effect ultimately.

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Speaker 1: And folk, we'll be honest, we didn't think we'd do

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Speaker 1: an episode about this initially today, and we were prepared.

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Speaker 1: As we were watching, we were kind of taking notes

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Speaker 1: on the fundamentals, taking notes on the actual policies, taking

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Speaker 1: notes on what's happening. And we stopped doing that because

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Speaker 1: there wasn't enough of it and it wasn't substance. So

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Speaker 1: we decided to hop on because right now, folks, we

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Speaker 1: are kind of venting, and this is cathartic. We're just

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Speaker 1: saying how we felt about what we watched, and we

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Speaker 1: don't know if you felt the same, but we got

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Speaker 1: to try this again, and we got to do better

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Speaker 1: than we did today.

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Speaker 2: Ropes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully the next Senate hearing will go better. We'll

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Speaker 3: be sure to watch and pass along our notes to

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Speaker 3: all of you. But thank you for listening to us, everybody.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you hanging with us on this Thursday evening.

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Speaker 3: I Ami Robot alongside t J. Holmes. Have a great

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Speaker 3: rest of your night. Everybody,