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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I welcome stuff. I've

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Speaker 1: never told you a prediction of iHeartRadio and welcome to

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Speaker 1: another sub sub sub subsub subsub segment of fictional women

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Speaker 1: around the world. And for this one, we are talking

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Speaker 1: about ev from The Mummy. Yes, times lost all meaning,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure our episode on the Mummy three has

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Speaker 1: already come out, but it should have. I think so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it should have, but things chaotic case happen. But we

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Speaker 1: have talked about her before in our classic episode on

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Speaker 1: the Mummy and the Mummy Too, we talked about the

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Speaker 1: Mummy too. I feel like we talked about her in

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Speaker 1: some other episode. But anyway, we've talked about her before.

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Speaker 1: But we thought since with the news that they're possibly

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Speaker 1: bringing Rachel Vice, sed Brynd Fraser back for The Mummy four.

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Speaker 1: The og, the og. This is movies that both of

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: So we are talking about Evelyn e v O'Connell, Nate

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Speaker 1: Carnahan from the Mummy franchise, the original Mummy franchise. Not

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Speaker 1: it's Tom CRU's foolery that happened that first introduced In

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Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety nine film The Mummy, she was largely

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Speaker 1: played by Rachel Weiss and then Maria Bello and the

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Speaker 1: third one. As we discussed in The Mummy three, whether

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Speaker 2: Not, you know what. Either way, she needs to make

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Speaker 2: a cameo somehow, whether she's cool the whole background of

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Speaker 2: one part or some reason like she got a raw deal.

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Speaker 2: I feel so bad for her, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be I think that'd be a nice

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Speaker 1: character that resonated with a lot of people, and there's

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Speaker 1: actually a lot written about her through a feminist lens.

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Speaker 1: This was another episode that I had to just stop

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Speaker 1: because there's so much written about her. This is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a shorter segment than it was getting out

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Speaker 1: of hand, but people have written a lot about her,

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Speaker 1: so let's get into it. Evie was born in England

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Speaker 1: and grew interested in Egypt at a very young age.

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Speaker 1: Her father was a famous explorer of Egypt and he

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Speaker 1: her brother, Jonathan, who, by the way, I had an

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Sliding Doors? No, as him and

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Speaker 2: Gwyneth Paltrow, and he plays the lead, the main romantic guy.

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Speaker 2: And I had seen him first in the Mummy, so

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Speaker 2: that did not correlate.

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Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, he shot up in the

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Speaker 1: Last of Us. I was like, wait, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, but like that's the in England. I

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Speaker 2: think he was kind of the one of the men.

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Speaker 1: The men, Yeah, you grant the universe. I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: surprised I went for him. I don't know why. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a running joke that the whole cast.

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Speaker 2: Is like a yes, a sexual awakening for sure.

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Speaker 1: For Shure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he is charming, but he's also supposed

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, Yeah, what was that doing anyway, There's

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Speaker 1: nothing Wrolse. It's fine. So Evie was specifically interested in artifacts,

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Speaker 1: Her parents died in a plane crash that some believed

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Speaker 1: was due to a curse of a mummy her her

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Speaker 1: What I know? Right, I had never heard of this.

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Speaker 1: Rick reveals he has been to Hominoptra, the velocity of Hominoptra,

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Speaker 1: While ev is fighting to be included, Rick is trying

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Speaker 1: The Mummy prepares to sacrifice her, but Rick and Crue

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