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Speaker 1: really difficult right now with no pads on it. Welcome

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Speaker 1: We love the feedback. Of course, John certainly does leave

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Speaker 1: us a comment at a five star rating. Did you

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Speaker 1: keep saying that there's nothing more than comments because I

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Speaker 1: scary place out there. It is a scary place. O

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Speaker 1: g A number seven in the books. Today a couple

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Speaker 1: of injuries, let's start with that today. And Jordan's Smith

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Speaker 1: the tough day at the office. It is, especially um,

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Speaker 1: so I wanted to kind of what are you doing,

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