1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was not a self made man. Jeffrey Epstein 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: was in possession of a number of very expensive assets, homes. 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: In particular, he had two homes in Aspen. And I've 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: been told by service providers in Aspen, an electrician, a plumber, 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: a hairstylist, my wife uses a bartender. At least four 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: different people have told me, maybe more over the years, 7 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: that Epstein had two homes or had control of two homes. 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: Exactly who owned all the things that Epstein that people 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: believed were Epstein's is in some dispute, and that makes 10 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: the story even more troubling. If Epstein was a self 11 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: made man, he wasn't a self made billionaire, then at 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: least he was indulging his own perversions, and he might 13 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: have chosen to share access to these indulgences, perversions crimes 14 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: with people he liked. Some people do do that. They 15 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: like to show off I have this thing, and now 16 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: you may share in this thing with me, like a 17 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: backyard pool or a private jet. Except this was sex 18 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: with children, which is always rape. And of course you 19 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: remember we call it statutory rape because it is rape 20 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: by statute. And the reason that's important, well, isn't every 21 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: rape a violation of a statute, a state law. Yes, 22 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: But what makes statutory rape important and special and unique 23 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: is it is in and of itself rape. You don't 24 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: get a defense that you would normally have. You don't 25 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: get to say, well, she begged for it, well, she 26 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: asked for it, well, she seduced me, well, she told 27 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: me she wanted to do it. Well, whatever else, she 28 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: performed the act willingly, voluntarily. I didn't ask her. 29 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: She asked me. 30 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: All of those things that could be used as a 31 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: defense in a rape, it was consensual. A child cannot 32 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: give their consent. So if an adult has sex with 33 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: a child, it doesn't matter if there was a seduction 34 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: and how that came about, if there was romance, if 35 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: the child wanted to do it, none of those things matter. 36 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: A child cannot consent because they are a minority. I'm sorry, minor. 37 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: They are a minor. A minor may not make decisions. 38 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: It's also why a minor can't vote because they are 39 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: not of age of majority. And we've agreed that for 40 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: most things. That is eighteen. At eighteen, you're ready to 41 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: decide that you want to go fight. No war in 42 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: the state of Texas was so ridiculous. You can sign 43 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: up to go fight a war, but you can't smoke 44 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: a cigarette till twenty one, and nobody wanted to fight 45 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: against that because nobody wanted to be pro cigarettes. That 46 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: would be how you would be cast. See, ah, you 47 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: just want to right to die. No, I want eighteen 48 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: year olds. If that's the age we're going to agree. 49 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: You can vote, so you can choose who the president 50 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: will be. You can choose who the people will be 51 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: that will serve in the government, who will make these 52 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: dumb laws. But you can't smoke a cigarette. That's how 53 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: you want to show that you're against lung cancer. Really 54 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: to take away freedoms that people have. See, you always 55 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: have to defend your freedoms because they come at you 56 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: from every different direction. But anyway back to it. The 57 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: thing about Jeffrey Epstein is that the money behind him, 58 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: and I think this will all be made very clear, 59 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 1: is going to turn out less. Wexler, who owned some 60 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: some retail stores for that mostly sold to teenage girls, 61 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: was a billionaire. And Wexler was was contributing a lot 62 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: of money. But I think you're going to find I 63 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: think you're going to find foreign government influence on Jeffrey Epstein. 64 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: And that's why everything was filmed all the time, and 65 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: that's why powerful people were invited, because once you get 66 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: them having sex with a kid and you film it, 67 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: you can make them do whatever you want, and that 68 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: will begin to make a lot more sense of why 69 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: some of the people have done some of the things 70 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: they've done that are seemingly contrary to their best interests. 71 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: Make God Masu, Mike Gobio, you. 72 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Know, there's something it's bad juju to wish people well 73 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: when they're fired, unless they're evil, Like I think it's 74 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: okay to wish death on you know, Adolf Hitler kind 75 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: of thing, And so in that category of awful, not 76 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: as bad as Hitler, but bad because I figure she 77 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 1: called everybody Hitler, we should call her Hitler. Is Joy Reid. 78 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: Joy Reid is a bad person. Joy Reid is a 79 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: setback for race because all she's ever done is race bait, 80 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: and frankly, if she was a white woman, as stupid 81 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: and singular in purpose as she was, she never would 82 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: have been there. But because she was a black woman, 83 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: she was put in a position as a token to 84 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: do what she did, and Frankly, you almost can't blame. 85 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: Her for that. 86 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: She did what she was supposed to do. She was 87 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: a race bader. She just wasn't very interesting frankly. Anyway, 88 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: Rachel Mattow was not happy that her friend was canned, 89 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: and she wanted her dozen listeners to know, Hey, listen, 90 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: people I work for, they're all racists. And then, of course, 91 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: after this little rant, they slashed a bunch. 92 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: Of her staff and even bigger programming change is at 93 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 4: seven pm seven pm Eastern, where Joy Reads show the 94 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 4: readout and did tonight. And Joy is not taking a 95 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: different job in the network, she is leaving the network altogether. 96 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 4: And that is very, very very hard to take. I 97 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: am fifty one years old. I have been gainfully employed 98 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: since I was twelve, and I have had so many 99 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: different kinds of jobs. You wouldn't believe me if I 100 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: told you. 101 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: But in all of the. 102 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: Jobs I have had, in all of the years I 103 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: have been alive, there is no colleague for whom I 104 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: have had more affection and more respect than Joy Read. 105 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: I love everything about her. I have learned so much 106 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 4: from her. I have so much more to learn from her. 107 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 4: I do not want to lose her as a colleague 108 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: here at MSNBC, and personally, I think it is a 109 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 4: bad mistake to let her walk out the door. It 110 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: is not my call and I understand that, but that's. 111 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 5: What I think. 112 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: I will tell you. It is also unnerving to see 113 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: that on a network where we've got two count of 114 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: two non white hosts in primetime. Both of our non 115 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: white hosts in primetime are losing their shows, as is 116 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: Katie Fang on the weekend, and that feels worse than 117 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: bad no matter who replaces now. That feels indefensible, and 118 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: I do not defend it, but there's just one other 119 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: piece of it that you should know. From your side 120 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: of the TV screen, you will mostly see changes in 121 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 4: terms of who's in the anchor chair, and actually everybody 122 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: who's going to be in anchor chairs from here on 123 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: out are great colleagues and great at what they do, 124 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: and you are not going to be disappointed and who's 125 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: on our air and what you're going to be seeing. 126 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 4: But one thing you cannot necessarily see is that the 127 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: people who get our shows on the air, they're really 128 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: being put through the ringer. Dozens of producers and staffers, 129 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: including some who are among the most experienced and most 130 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 4: talented and most specialist producers in the building are facing 131 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: being laid off. They're being invited to reapply for new jobs. 132 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 4: That has never happened at this scale in this way 133 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: before when it comes to programming changes, presumably because it's 134 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 4: not the right way to treat people, and it's inefficient 135 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 4: and it's unnecessary, and it kind of drops the bottom 136 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: out of whether or not people feel like this is 137 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: a good place to work, and so we don't generally 138 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: do things that way. Maybe all of our folks, including 139 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: most of the people who are getting this very show 140 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: on the air right now, maybe they will all get 141 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: new jobs here, and I hope they do. But in 142 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 4: the meantime, being put in this kind of limbo, the 143 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: anxiety and discombobulation is off the charts at a time 144 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: when this job already is extra stressful and difficult. It 145 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: is not news for me to tell you that the 146 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: press and freedom of the press are under attack in 147 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 4: a way that is really it's a big deal for 148 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: our country. It's very visceral for us here. I know 149 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: that the business of the press is not an easy thing, 150 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: and I know that no job is forever, but I 151 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: think I'm safe in saying for all of us anchors 152 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: who you know through the TV, please know that what 153 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 4: pains us the most is not what happens to us. 154 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: It is what happens to our coworkers on whom we 155 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 4: depend and who you don't necessarily know. But we respect 156 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: and love them and depend on them. And did I 157 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 4: mention we respect them. This is a difficult time in 158 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 4: the news business, but it does not need to be thisficult. 159 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: We welcome new voices to this place and some familiar 160 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: voices to new hours. It's going to be great, honestly, 161 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: and we want to grow and succeed and reach more 162 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: people than ever and be resilient and stay here forever. 163 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: I also believe, and I bet you believe, that the 164 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: way to get there is by treating people well, finding 165 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 4: good people, good colleagues, doing good work with them, and 166 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: then having their back. That we could do a lot 167 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: better on a lot better. 168 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: But let's be clear why joy Read was fired. Megan 169 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: Kelly did a great job. Normally I would say it 170 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: does not make for good content to read ratings, but 171 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: she does a pretty good job here of making it 172 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: very simple. We live and die on ratings. In our business, 173 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: it's how you're measured. It's wins and losses. But I 174 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: think she does a good job here. 175 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 6: We just pulled the ratings from Thursday Night. On Thursday Night, 176 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 6: this is in the the twenty five to fifty four demo. 177 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 6: I mean, this is just unbelievable. Like truly, when I 178 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 6: was at Fox, We're a Bad Night in the demo 179 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 6: would be in the threes, three hundred and change, but 180 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 6: it was often six hundred thousand, seven hundred thousand in change. 181 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: In the demo. 182 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 6: Those are now the overall numbers, the total audience numbers 183 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 6: on a great number for most of cable news. Here's 184 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 6: her demo number from Thursday Night, fifty nine thousand. She 185 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 6: was four thousand away from Slashies, which is but. 186 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 7: We No. 187 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 6: Nine thousand, which is fifty thousand, she was fifty nine thousand. 188 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 6: That's what she got in the overall demo. She lost 189 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 6: to her competitor on CNN who had one hundred and 190 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 6: four thousand, lost to Laura Ingram who had three hundred 191 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 6: and eighty nine thousand. Lost the whole ratings race inside 192 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 6: MSNBC where they're great White Hope Jensaki, who's taking over 193 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 6: now at nine. This is all part of a reshuffling. 194 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 6: She got six five thousand in the key demo sixty five. 195 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 6: That's okay, that's their future, Rachel Maddow, she's their big star. 196 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 6: For thirty million dollars a year. All you have to 197 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 6: pull is one hundred and forty four thousand in the demo, 198 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 6: which I think is what we got. I don't even 199 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 6: I mean, like maybe overnight at three am during a 200 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 6: weekend program lineup at Fox. One hundred and forty four 201 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 6: thousand now earns you thirty million dollars a year on MSNBC. 202 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 6: And then the next lowest well after Reid and Sake, 203 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 6: was Stephanie Ruhle with eighty eight thousand. Laurence o'donald got 204 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 6: one hundred and three six thousand. These are all terrible, terrible, 205 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 6: terrible numbers, and that's one of the many reasons joy reading. 206 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 7: Oh yes, we're gonna take your ar fifteen bight opa, 207 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 7: Oh the Michael Berry Show. 208 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: Hell, yes, yes, yes, yes, Joe. 209 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: I've said it before, I'll say it again. Because some 210 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: people think we shouldn't play audio of other shows. You're 211 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: being lazy, You're not prepped. You I'm sitting here right now, 212 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding you. With God and Ramona's my witness, 213 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with probably fifty pages of prep. I 214 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: have more things to talk about today than I've ever had. 215 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: But I also believe that when somebody does something good, 216 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: we're going to amplify it instead of having an ego 217 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: so big that I need to talk every segment of 218 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: every show all day. I don't. Some of you will 219 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: have heard Greg Guttfell's monologue a couple days ago about 220 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: Joy Reid, and I meant to play it the next day, 221 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: but so many things to talk about right now. And 222 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: I've been meaning to play this because I despise Joy 223 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Reid and the joy I received in watching her, a 224 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: woman who constantly would say the most awful things about 225 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: white people, and by the way, about black people who 226 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: were not cow telling to her way of thought, which 227 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: is blacks or victims, blacks should all be for Obama 228 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: and Kamala and Joe Biden, and that anyone who tries 229 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: to be an individual and independent individual is a bad 230 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: human being. I despise that. But Greg Guttfeldt had the 231 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: best monologue on the firing of Joy Reid, and so 232 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: we are going to play at least something. We'll see 233 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: if we have enough time, We're going to at least 234 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: play part of that. Right here, it's. 235 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: A sad moment for the show. Joy Reid is out. 236 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 7: Of course, were heartbroken forse He provided this show with 237 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 7: more material than a seamstress at the view on slow 238 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 7: news days. Joy was always there to help with a 239 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 7: racist rant. 240 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: I loved her. Remember these golden oldies. 241 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 8: We do have a fascist ground swell in parts of 242 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 8: this country. 243 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: Mainly among white men. 244 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 9: What they're saying is we own this country and everyone 245 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 9: will bow down to us. In America, there's a thing 246 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 9: about both white vigilantism and white tears, nial light tears. 247 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: Now. 248 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 7: I don't like to use hyperbole, but Joy's firing is 249 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 7: the biggest blow to racists since the Confederacy lost, because 250 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 7: not only did Cable News lose a bigot, but the 251 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 7: bigot herself might finally get the round the clock care 252 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 7: that she really needs. But you got to wonder how 253 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 7: she was able to last this long. The irony, of course, 254 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 7: is in her name, for to Joy bring any joy 255 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 7: to anyone's life. Oh, I didn't know this was a 256 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 7: call in response show. 257 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: But think about it. 258 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 7: I'm willing to bet no one ever said, you know, 259 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 7: I was going through a tough period in my life 260 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:41,359 Speaker 7: and listening. 261 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: To Joy Reid really got me through it. 262 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 7: If anything, it was their tough periods in life that 263 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 7: got them through. Joy read but that's the problem with 264 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 7: MSNBC and Legacy Media. Their income was based on making 265 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 7: life worse instead of focusing on real stuff. They created 266 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,479 Speaker 7: hoaxes ones that's so division and hopelessness. 267 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: Now. 268 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 7: Joy's firing came on the heels of MSNBC's parent company, 269 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 7: NBC Universal, settling a thirty million dollar defamation lawsuit with 270 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 7: a Georgia guynacologist I know, Georgia. In twenty twenty, the 271 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 7: network reported that the doctor working at an ice detention 272 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 7: center was performing unwanted hysterectomies on immigrant women. The network 273 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 7: called the doctor the uterus collector. 274 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: I know. 275 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 7: That was my nickname in college. 276 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: Here's how they reported it. 277 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: Just underscore that the allegation here is that this is 278 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: a federal facility and they have been sending immigrant women 279 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: in their care in their custody to a doctor who 280 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 4: has removed their reproductive organs for no medical reason, and 281 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: without them consenting to it. 282 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 6: Nurse says that detained women told her they didn't fully 283 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 6: understand why they were un going hysterectomies. 284 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 5: You talk about in the complaint a hearing from women 285 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 5: who are detained there talking about a specific doctor performing hysterectomies, 286 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 5: referring to him as a uterus collector. 287 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: Uh yeah. 288 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 7: Chris Hayes was one of those who pedled this story 289 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 7: about the uterus collector, but his only proof was. 290 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: That his was missing. 291 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 7: And yes, the story sounds horrible, almost too horrible to 292 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 7: be believed, but for people in legacy media who suspend 293 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 7: common sense on all things Trump, it was just too 294 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 7: good to check. 295 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: It had to be true, but it wasn't. 296 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 7: And the tip off right away is that these hacks 297 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 7: would actually condemn a doctor forcibly collecting uteruses, because when 298 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 7: it comes to kids, it's lovingly called gender affirmation there 299 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 7: and you think the fact that no one else was 300 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 7: reporting this might have been another clue for these great 301 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 7: investigative journalists. Although calling Nicole Wallace, Chris Hayes, and Rachel 302 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 7: Maddow journalists it's like calling Stacy Abrams, Jerry Nadler, and JB. 303 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 7: Pritzker plus sized models. 304 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: So how far were they off? 305 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 7: Well, the judge in the case states that there's undisputed 306 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 7: evidence has been established that there were no mass horest 307 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 7: terectomies at the facility, and the doctor is not quote 308 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 7: a uterus collector. So other than that. 309 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: Their reporting was perfect. 310 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 7: So MSNBC has reportedly decided to settle up rather than 311 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 7: risk a trial. But you still got to wonder how 312 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 7: this story, this hoax got this far. 313 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: Well, what was the point of the hoax in the 314 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: first place? 315 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 7: To damage Trump and his determination to finally tighten the border. 316 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: They wanted to believe it was true, you. 317 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 7: Know, like when I told that flight attendant it was 318 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 7: a war injury. The anchors just love the idea that 319 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 7: there was a sinister doctor forcibly removing uteruses so that 320 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 7: these women couldn't have kids after entering the US. It's 321 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 7: so evil, so fascist, so Trumpian. Seriously, how soon will 322 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 7: Hollywood make a movie of that? The evil doctor could 323 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 7: be played by Kevin Spacey, Yeah, and the uterus could 324 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 7: be played by Peter Dinklage. It makes no sense. Don't 325 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 7: try to make sense of it. But again, how do 326 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 7: they fall for this garbage. Well, first, maybe they felt 327 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 7: that if they were wrong, of course no one would check. 328 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 7: But also, any belief system is a continuum, and if 329 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 7: you go far enough out with it, you can arrive 330 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 7: at a very bad place, especially if you already start 331 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 7: at a bad place, like say Trump is Hitler. 332 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 8: Like Trump, Hitler was also viewed as a clown, a 333 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 8: goon who would be who could be kept in line. 334 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 8: It was blatant fascism meets the Jerry Springer Show. If 335 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 8: that sounds vaguely familiar, that's because it is similar. Similarities 336 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 8: to what happened in Germany and what's happening now in 337 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 8: America are just undeniable, violent, terrifying, and sometimes bizarre conspiracy 338 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 8: theories that set the table for maybe armed resistance to 339 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 8: a Kamala Harris Win or mass acceptance of American fascism. 340 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: Let me know when you. 341 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 9: Guys are finished fighting amongst yourselves. 342 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: Who I got to vote for in November. 343 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 8: To keep Hitler aut the White House? 344 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: If it's Biden, it a coma, I'm gonna vote for 345 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: Bidthen a coma you'd vote for Biden and Tacoma. Why not? 346 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: You did the same thing in twenty twenty. 347 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 7: Meanwhile, COMA patients are blinking out Morse code for come on, guys, 348 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 7: we're not that bad. 349 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: Amazing. 350 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 7: You can see how Joy laid the groundwork for the hoax. 351 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 7: So what's left of MSNBC. Well, they're replacing Joy with 352 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 7: a three person panel, so if it's a slow news day, 353 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 7: they can call each other racist, which raises the other question. 354 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 7: Mattow and the others pushed the uterus story, Reid did not. 355 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 7: So why is Joy fired and the rest of them aren't? 356 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 7: Is it because they're all white? I mean, here's a 357 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 7: case where Joy can actually cry racism and finally, for once, 358 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 7: it might be true. 359 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what your question was, Michael Berry. I 360 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: lost the plot somewhere. 361 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: You did? 362 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 7: You did? 363 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: George C. 364 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 10: Scott as Traditional General Patent, Real America, nineteen seventy one 365 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 10: of the great roles of all time about a man who. 366 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: Is beloved in American history. Whether you are a warmonger 367 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: or a piece nick or anywhere in between, most people 368 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: would agree we have had, as nations do some men 369 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: who are titans of American history for their service in 370 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: leadership in our military. MacArthur, of course, in the Pacific Eisenhower, 371 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: George Washington, in the founding of this nation. Roberty Lee, 372 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: who served this country in what would have then been 373 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: called the Union Army, and then when Civil War broke out, 374 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: chose his state over his nation. And people say what 375 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: they want, but he was not fighting for slavery. He 376 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: was fighting for his state, and it was a very, 377 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: very tough time. He was conflicted over this, and for 378 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: that reason, Lincoln and Grant had a great deal of 379 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: respect for Roberty Lee, as they did for Stonewall Jackson. 380 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: But there are individuals who have served this country. John J. Persing, 381 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: Pershing who famously was sent into Mexico to teach them 382 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: a lesson that Trump's about to have to remind them 383 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: that we are not to be trifled with, and don't 384 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: think for a moment we are. And with this legendary lineage, 385 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: the idea of putting idiots in positions that our soldiers, marines, sailors, 386 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: airmen would have to serve under is absolutely infuriating. So 387 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: President Trump and Pete Hegseth, you probably know this is 388 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: not new news. It's just it's been on my list 389 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: of things to get to. They fired the Joint Chiefs chairman, 390 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: a fellow named General C. Q. Brown, and he's got 391 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: to be the wokest Joint Chiefs Chairman in American history, 392 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: and he is. He's an absolute atrocity. Here he is 393 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: speaking at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. This was 394 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be our Joint Chiefs Chairman, and all he 395 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: cares about is I'm black. There's more of a bunch 396 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: of black people in here. I want to get all 397 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: the white people out of here. 398 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 11: And one of the examples that our analogies that was 399 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 11: shared with me that I think is actually makes it 400 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 11: very simple to understand. And you for diversit and inclusion inequity, 401 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 11: you really want to be invited and have the opportunity 402 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 11: to participate. And for those who can go back to 403 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 11: eighth grade and you went to the eighth grade dance, 404 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 11: you know, you want to be invited to the dance 405 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 11: and then once you get there, that's the diversity that 406 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 11: you have an opportunity to come to the dance. But 407 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 11: the inclusion inequity part is that you get asked to dance. 408 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 11: You're not just there at the dance. And so it's 409 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 11: for an aspect of the United States Air Force the 410 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 11: things I think about is not only having diverse, you know, 411 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 11: slates of candidates for some key positions, but it's also 412 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 11: that you have to select some of those individuals into 413 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 11: those key positions. And that's a key aspect of what 414 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 11: I'm focused on as a chief of staff is you 415 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 11: can't let it just be happenstance that brings in the 416 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 11: diversity where there be race, gender, ethnic background, sexual orientation, 417 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 11: so background. You really got to spend some time thinking 418 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 11: about it, because you made this an opportunity if you 419 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 11: don't really spend some time looking at the slate of 420 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 11: candidates and then asking some hard questions. And that's an 421 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 11: aspect of you know, me as the chief of staff 422 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 11: when I sit down with Secretary breat We just had 423 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 11: a conversation about this yesterday as we're looking at some 424 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 11: key positions, you know, who are diverse candidates and are 425 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 11: we making sure we are grooming them so they have 426 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 11: the opportunity. 427 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, so when a war breaks out, we're going to 428 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: have a lot of talk about are there enough blacks 429 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: or lesbians or boys who are girls. Same conference, same 430 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: guy bragging about purposely building his team with people of 431 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: diverse backgrounds that means not white males. 432 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 11: All of us have to seek out those diverse candidates 433 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 11: to bring them in. That's that's what we're trying to 434 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 11: do in the Air forces. You almost got to purposely 435 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 11: manage some of this. You just can't let it. If 436 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 11: you do it by happenstance won't change. We've got to 437 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 11: be actually involved as leaders from all backgrounds to ensure 438 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 11: we have it, and it really makes for better organization. 439 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 11: I mean, I get so much out of the purposely 440 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 11: build my office, my front office, my team with divers 441 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 11: n I'll hire for diversity. 442 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: Japanese companies are some of the finest in the world, 443 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: and they lack diversity. You've got a lot of dysfunctional 444 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: organizations that Democrats have taken over in this country that 445 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: are full of diversity, by which they mean just hiring 446 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: not white males. And it does not make things better here. 447 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: He is same jackass telling the Washington Post, Well, listen. 448 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 11: We've got to actually nutch and pull and actually purposely 449 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 11: managed and ensure that we have diverse candidates that can 450 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 11: compete and if they need some help in certain areas 451 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 11: with coaching or add additional training or additional opportunities that 452 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 11: is something we've got to continue to work on as well. 453 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: Here he is talking to PBS News Hour when he 454 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: was asked if a recruits social media should be looked 455 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: at on recruitment. 456 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 11: Should recruit social media be looked at to find extremist tendencies? 457 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 11: My concern is that individuals will put things on social 458 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 11: media that they would never say to your face, okay, 459 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 11: And that to me is an indicator. And that's why, 460 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 11: you know, being able to take a look at social 461 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 11: media will also tell you a little bit about character 462 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 11: and the individual that you're bringing into our service. 463 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: Go look up the Syracuse scar study and women who 464 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: thought that a scar had been painted on their face, 465 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: but it was removed and they went into an interview, 466 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: and they came back and asked them how the interview 467 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: went and whether the people were bothered by the scar 468 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: on their face. And they all perceived that the scar 469 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: on their face would mean that they weren't going to 470 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: get the job because the person was acting crazy towards them, 471 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: but they didn't realize they didn't have a scar on 472 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: their face. If you believe racism is everywhere, then you 473 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: will end up seeing racism everywhere. Here he is seeing 474 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: the beauty of the overdose death of Saint George Floyd 475 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: on PBS News Hour. 476 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 11: Are the solutions essentially breaking a white boy? Well, part 477 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 11: part of the solution is actually happened to the first 478 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 11: slate of candidates when you look at any one of 479 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 11: our positions we're doing interviews, is you want to have 480 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 11: a diverse slate of candidates. And it does two things 481 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 11: and industing to somebody you may not already know. The 482 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 11: second thing it does, it prepares that individual for freuture interviews. 483 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 11: He sends any resistance to that, no, you know, buy 484 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 11: and large. I think many of our airmen and our leaders, 485 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 11: and our senior leaders in particular, they get it. And 486 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 11: I think it's in some cases it may have been 487 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 11: a blind spot force where we weren't really paying attention 488 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 11: to it. I think the beauty of you know, it 489 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 11: is tragic at George Floyd's death is and the other 490 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 11: events that surround that, the fact we're taking our heart 491 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 11: look at ourselves, and I think it's opened some eyes 492 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 11: to somebody. Ramen who are just like this, you. 493 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: Know, are awful. They use everything they can for their 494 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: own agenda, which is more blacks, more blacks, which is 495 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: really his way of saying more of him. Here he 496 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: is telling the air Force there, airmen need to value diversity. 497 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: You need you need to all want more Black people. 498 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 11: Can't fixed censories of racism in our country, or what 499 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 11: can I fix decades the discrimination may have impacted members 500 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 11: of our air force. I'm thinking about how I can 501 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 11: make improvements personally, professionally and institutionally so that all entering 502 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 11: both the day tomorrow appreciate the value of diversity. 503 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: And to close the show, here was Pete hegseeth. I 504 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 1: guess it was yesterday. They all run together now, turning 505 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: the tables on a reporter who asked about the quote 506 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: unquote unqualified retired general that Trump picked as his new 507 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I love Secretary 508 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: of Hegseth's answer, qualified. 509 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 11: High Tenant Jucklo to be the next chairman of the joke. 510 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 10: I'm gonna I'm gonna choose to reject your unqualified question. 511 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: Here's next reject unqualified questions, folks, there's your there's your 512 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: best way to make America great again. Challenge everything zero