1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always 3 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. Yeah, I'm over here in 4 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: in my wife's shoe collection. I'm trying to find the 5 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: pointy of shoes in there, and you know what, nothing 6 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: is over a couple of centimeters. I'm really I'm sadden, 7 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm saddened. Well, I'll be a pumped up reebok. Matt Frederick, 8 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: you've returned for part two of our story on crack 9 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: ow the weird pointy shoes of medieval Europe. That yep, 10 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm here. I am Nope, I'm here. That's okay. Now, Now, 11 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: for everyone who hasn't somehow listened to part one, please 12 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: do check it out. It's a lot of fun. We 13 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: skirted with a little bit of danger there at the end, Matt, 14 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: but we got away clean, as we have often in 15 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: the past. Knockout wood and uh right now. Wanted to 16 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: check in with you before we moved to part two. 17 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: How you feeling about the weird history of these weird shootes? Oh? Man, 18 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: I am feeling, you know what, really optimistic that there's 19 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: even more ridiculous stuff that we're about to talk about today, 20 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: I've I've consumed an entire forty eight fluid ounces of 21 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Khalifa Colderbrew, and I am feeling ready to rock. Then, 22 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: without further ado, thanks to our super producers Casey Pegrim 23 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: guest producers Andrew Howard and Max Williams, away we go 24 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Part two of Weirdly Weirdly Pointy Shoes. These shoes, these poolines, 25 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: they're not seeing as a fat They're seen as a symbol, 26 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: a way of communicating that one is doing well in 27 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: the world. So it's funny because they may have also 28 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: been a form of like a predecessor of what's called 29 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: retail therapy today. According to some historians, medieval fashion at 30 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: the time was largely known for its clean lines and 31 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: this kind of chased minimalism. So maybe, and again this 32 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: is speculation. Maybe a good explanation for this flamboyance is 33 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: that the shoes emerged onto the scene very shortly after 34 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: the Black Death killed like thirty maybe sixty of the 35 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: European population. So you've survived, made it out. Yeah, Now 36 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: you can wear these things around and be a bit 37 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: frivolous because life is short. No, but that totally makes 38 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: sense psychologically, why something that's a little perhaps stranger to 39 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: the everyday person would be just more accepted. And it 40 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: really makes me think about the fashion trends that are 41 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: going to be coming out in the next couple of 42 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: years across the world. Right now, right, I hope masks 43 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: stay around. Mask are awesome. I think they will. I 44 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: was actually perusing l ed types of masks, and I 45 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: was even looking at gauntlets. There are some incredible Etsy 46 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: cyberpunk gauntlets that you can just buy and and you 47 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: know you could. It's every day you stuff. I always think, oh, 48 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: maybe that's a dragon Con thing. But dragon Con is 49 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: not going to be a thing anymore, or Comic Con 50 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: or any of these things. They just don't exist anymore. 51 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: But I can wear a gauntlet at home. Yeah, you 52 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: gotta be the dragon Con you wish to see in 53 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: the world. I think that's Gandhi or was a guy 54 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: dressed as Gandhi at dragon pot He told me that 55 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: got it? That makes a lot of sense. I think 56 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I met him too. I think he did. He's a 57 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: friend of this show. So we know that there is 58 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: a cultural context from which this popularity may have arisen, 59 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: but it kept as controversy as it continued. You know, 60 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: it's it's something that's often it's considered like the first 61 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: the domain of the elite. But then the church begins 62 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: to attack it. Remember we said they called him devil's fingers. 63 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: They said that these pointy shoes, the Plaine was encouraging 64 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: what they called um. They meant a different thing by this, 65 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: but what they called sodomy. Sodomy was at the time 66 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: just a catch all term for any kind of sex 67 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: or sexual act considered nonstandard. So basically, if you're not 68 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: married right and having sexual relationships for the sole purpose 69 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: of procreation very specific and orthodox way, in a very 70 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: specific way, then you're breaking the rules and anything else 71 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: is deviant and an aberration. And so members of the 72 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: public start associate extravagant fashions in general, and pointy shoes 73 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: in particular, with alternative or deviant sexuality. Just picture a 74 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: religious authority saying and there are there were also there 75 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: also very long, usurious locks like therese of women then 76 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: shuts two tights through the tight unique unseemly it's the 77 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: end of days. So we talked about how the Black 78 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: Death rolled through killed lots and lots of people, and 79 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: it was said by clergy that this that one of 80 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: the reasons that the Black Death came through and all 81 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: of these people are being punished, it was because of 82 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: the sexual deviancies, right, and these poo lanes were a 83 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: symbol of that. And you can also see why maybe 84 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: there was a push or an underground push for the 85 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: pooh lanes because it was almost this It was almost 86 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: symbolic of freedom or or um, the thing that everybody 87 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: pushes for throughout history at some point or another in 88 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: these waves of just trying to show that you don't 89 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: have to conform this like minor nonconformity thing, but doing 90 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: it in small ways, I don't know, very symbolic. Yeah, 91 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, because people want to be free to 92 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: arrive at their own definitions of themselves, which I think 93 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: is an inherently human and noble thing. But then also 94 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: control over how people are allowed to present themselves is 95 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: a big deal to authorities throughout history, you know, and 96 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: everything from haircuts to clothing to food too. More So, 97 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: the Church doesn't like this, and they have they have 98 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: these different reasons, so they say, yes, it's indicative of 99 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: sexually proclivities, which a seemly and ungodly. But if you 100 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: think about it, there's a good argument that the poolane 101 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: could be regarded as foul. It's a long, tippy shoe 102 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: and they are mostly worn by well to do young 103 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: men and then later as young men in general, who 104 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: reportedly would stand on street corners and like wiggle them 105 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: at people, and people started to say, well, they're starting 106 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: to be the stereotype where folks would say, if somebody 107 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: wears poulines with bells sewn to the end of them, 108 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: what they're telling you is that they're available for the 109 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: sick hute flicks man. I wish that guy that we 110 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: won't name us here because I want to ask him 111 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: whether or not that's where the term bell end came from. Okay, Okay, 112 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: we'll ask him later last after this show, we'll text 113 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: the yes. So, like you said, this is something that 114 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: later historians, especially in the queer community, had looked into, 115 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: right at, this sort of idea of using fashion as 116 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: almost another language, a non verbal language to convey ones, positions, intentions, desires, 117 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: and aims. That's a brilliant thing that continues today in 118 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: all sorts of parts of the world. But here's the argument. 119 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: Here's the argument I thought was kind of the most disingenuous. 120 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: The church also said that really long poulanes were bad 121 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: because they stopped people from being able to kneel, so 122 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: then they stop people from praying, and priests started calling 123 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: them Satan's clause because of this. The reason I think 124 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: that's silly is it makes the assumption that polanes are 125 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: an irremovable shoe that doesn't happen. The closest thing people 126 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: have to an irremovable you is the foot or the 127 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: skin of the foot. Yeah. I mean some of these, 128 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: some of these boots with like the elaborate stuff you 129 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: gotta do to tighten them and get them on, those 130 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: are almost, you know, irremovable unless you really want to 131 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: put some thought and time into it. Yeah, you're right, 132 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: that's the time commitment, right. But you see what I'm saying, Like, 133 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: I feel like they just didn't like stuff that was popular, 134 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: which is weird because the you know, and and I 135 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: say this with full respect, but if you look at 136 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: the history of the importance that European religious institutions put 137 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: on who can or cannot wear certain types of uniform 138 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: or fashion, whether they are layer, clergy, etcetera, that it 139 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: tracts to me that they would be very sensitive to 140 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: changes in fashion because in a way they kind of 141 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: had this conception that everyone should have a rough uniform, 142 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: the k should dress differently from the priests, the pope 143 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: or the peasant. Well. Yeah, and speaking of the pope, 144 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: do you remember when Pope Urban I believe the fifth, 145 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: was like, guess what, can't wear these anymore? Too bad? 146 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: I know you love them, don't care. I can't. That's it. 147 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm going back inside to put on my 148 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: poo lanes because I'm the pope. Pope, I call it 149 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: pope lanes. This is my thing. Now, it's my thing. 150 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Now there's a pope choose. It's interesting because he did 151 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: issue that edict and nobody really listened to it. They 152 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: were like, you'll take these poolanes from my cold dead toes. 153 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: So eventually, as this the vicious sexual connotation of the 154 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: poulane continues and it becomes more a known and accepted thing, 155 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: the English Crown feels like they have to step in 156 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: because essentially they were saying, it's like, you know, the 157 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: longer need to on a poolane, the more masculine the man, 158 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: and uh people didn't like that. Some people didn't like that. 159 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: They were like, don't judge me by my foot game, 160 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: and so yeah, well you know what they say about 161 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: a guy with a really long poolane, he doesn't have 162 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: a job. Well, or these do have a job. Wow. 163 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, the was it the British Crown or 164 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: the Parliament? It was it was a British authority stepped 165 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: forward and said, guess what, we are going to ban 166 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: these now. So the church banned them, and now the 167 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: secular authority comes through and says, uh, sorry, yes they 168 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: banned them. Parliament says wearing these types of shoes is 169 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: now equivalent to public indecency, but only if you're not rich. 170 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: They say, no person under the estate of Lord can 171 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: wear any gown, jacket or coat that does not cover 172 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: the genitals and buttocks. Also, you can't wear any shoes 173 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: or boots with pikes those points longer than two inches, 174 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: And no tailor can make a short garment or stuffed 175 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: doublet and no shoe maker can make you know, long 176 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: pointy shoes anymore. It's a law from fourteen sixty three. 177 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: They had other stuff to do that day, but they 178 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: chose to do that. Well, I mean, I get it 179 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: like making crunchless doubloons is like, uhloons? Is that that's 180 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: not the right word. What's the doublet? Not a doublet? 181 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: What's the there's pantaloons, breaches? How about grieves? Note those 182 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: are fortions? Uh? How about ty ones? Uh? Yeah? But 183 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: like you were saying, I'm gonna say, yeah, I get it. 184 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just can't get over an edict saying 185 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: no tailor, she'll make anything. What it was what was 186 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: your quote? Not cover the genitals and buttocks? Yes, yeah 187 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: you have, but it's okay if you're the lord or 188 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: over the king can do what he wishes with his Australia, 189 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: but everybody else has to cover it up. And this 190 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: is the sumptuary law we're talking about earlier. These set out, 191 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, exactly what you were describing earlier, Matt a 192 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: very specific kind of plane length based on one social class, 193 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: and it was argued that he was okay for barons 194 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: and nights to have longer points because they were less 195 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: susceptible to the sinful things that wearing these shoes would 196 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: tempt you to do. The only other city that took 197 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: a stand against this was Paris. They banned them in 198 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: thirteen sixty eight, but it came and went. You know, 199 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: that's how fashion is. It's cyclical. By fourteen seventy five, 200 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: the poulane had largely vanished. European footwear under King Henry 201 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: the Eighth got really into a wide box toed shoes. Yeah, 202 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: it's a real reaction to the plane there. Yeah. And 203 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: then later England past laws restricting the width of the shoes. 204 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: Of course, you can imagine the craziness they could could 205 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: happen there with the width of shoes. Isn't there a 206 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: thing where people were going around like trying to stop 207 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: people in the streets and say, oh, hold on this, 208 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: let me take again. That's dying shoes. The width appear 209 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: to be too much. They feed a wide natural. Look, 210 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: we got shoveled feet. We shall see the old to 211 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: me run this is he's got a very short like 212 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: walking spans, a short, short man with wide feet, so 213 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: he's kind of like a speed penguin. Actually, change it, 214 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: it's a penguin. It's a penguin. They didn't know because 215 00:14:54,440 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: they haven't seen penguins yet, speak terrible accent. I wonder like, 216 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: it's so funny to be the concept of modifying shoe 217 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: fashion to the point where it gets outlawed. But the 218 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: the utility of the fashion change is so anti escape, 219 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: like it makes it so much more difficult to escape 220 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: any any situation where an authority is attempting to stop 221 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: you weird. So we hope you enjoyed this story and 222 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: knowing that there is there is a very long precedent 223 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: or very long standing precedent to those folks at the 224 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: local quick trip Buford Highway, which all the way also 225 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: shout out to Buford Hiwa. It's got like the best 226 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: food in town. It is known if you ever get 227 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: a chance to travel or check it out. Matt. This 228 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: became a two parter along the way because we had 229 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: I think we had so much fun exploring this story. 230 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: We run into some some pretty heavy social issues that 231 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: continue to dog humanity in the modern day. So one 232 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: of first off, thank you so much for hanging out 233 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: with these two episodes, and also thanks of course to 234 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: our our good pal Noel Brown who's on adventures. But 235 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: we'll be returning, Matt. I want to give you the 236 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: last word before we go to the credits. Oh, the 237 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: last word, really, there could be any word you want. 238 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Oh wait wait if it's a curse word, 239 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna bleep it though. Oh man, does it have 240 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: But is it one word? Can it be a phrase? 241 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't know the rules. It can be a commencement speech, bro, 242 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: it's it's really yeah. You're the one who did us 243 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: a favor, so it's all on you. Well, to everyone 244 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: out there who's just graduated, I just want to say, 245 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: listen to Camp Hell and Awake. Oh what, sorry, but seriously, 246 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: congratulations grads and uh and do listen to Camp Hill 247 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: and Awake. Hope. I hope you do that. But hey, 248 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: the only thing I think, honestly we missed out on 249 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: this episode was being able to consult with our friend 250 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: because Jonathan Strickland. Of course it's time. Hell man, it 251 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: wasn't a bit. No, you look different, thanks, No, uh, 252 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: it's not all. It's Matt methol Mule throw Drick, my 253 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: old old nemesis, Metholo Mule. You're in for a treat 254 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: for Welcome to the most cringe worthy segment in all 255 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: of podcasting. You face the quizter, Jonathan, Is it okay 256 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: that I'm excited about this? Gentlemen? I have something I 257 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: have to say first before we get into this. I 258 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: climbed out of my poutine this morning and into my 259 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: seventeen foot long pooline down to can of Satan Claw, 260 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: donned my lascivious, ungodly tight shirt, place my propeller beanie 261 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: upon my pace, and I made my way to the 262 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History studios, only to discover they are empty. You 263 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: shall suffer for this. Oh, such great things to show you, Quister. 264 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: How what is the crotch area of your breeches? How 265 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: are they doing? Oh? My card pieces? Awesome? Awesome? Yeah, boy, 266 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: listening to you just sort of with your way through 267 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: medieval terminology was truly the highlight of my week. So 268 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: glad I came in on this one. I could feel 269 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: a disturbance in the force when we were when we 270 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: decided to call beanies Deely bops. I can feel somewhere 271 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: out there. So Jonathan Strickland ak the quister. Long time 272 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: listeners know what goes on with our continuing cold war 273 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: here on Ridiculous History. But for anyone who might be 274 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: unfamiliar with this segment, what exactly is about to go down? Well, 275 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: I am about to present to the two of you 276 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: three scenarios. Two of them are real, one of them 277 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: I made up. Seas, it is up to the two 278 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: of you to determine which one is the fake. You 279 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: have three minutes to do so, and you may ask 280 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: me questions once I finish all three scenarios, but you 281 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: have to you have to preface it with a phrase 282 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: of my choosing. You will for reasons that will soon 283 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: become clear. Understand why I've chosen this phrase phrase for 284 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: this one is soon, may the Wellerman come? So you 285 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: have those That is a hint to the nature of 286 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: the three questions. And of course, um as always, we 287 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: will make certain to mark who won and who lost 288 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: the end. But that is that is the gist of it. 289 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: Matholomew Froderic. Are you prepared? I am prepared. Let me 290 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: just make sure I get this right. Soon. May the 291 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: Wellerman come? Soon? May the Wellerman come? Okay, So it's 292 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: a statement, Okay, yes, yes, it's it's to bring us 293 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: sugar and tea and RUMs. But you are so slow 294 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: on the uptake, Frederic, I really am where's the old person? 295 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: Where the old go? All right? Well, I will make do. 296 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: I suppose here we are scenario number one under the 297 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: intersection of Clay and Sandsome Streets in San Francisco is 298 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: something odd. The intersection is five blocks from the piers 299 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: at the bay, and yet under that intersection is the Neantic, 300 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: a ship from the mid nineteenth century. It is just 301 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: one of more than forty ships buried in San Francisco, 302 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: but it's the only one that served as the inspiration 303 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: for the name of the company that made Pokemon Go. 304 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: Scenario two, a construction crew in Old Town, Alexandria and 305 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: Virginia found something odd. While preparing a construction site on 306 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: South Union Street. They found a buried eighteenth century warship, 307 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: possibly one used in the American Revolutionary War. The remains 308 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: were in reasonably good shape, largely, it is believed because 309 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: since it was buried, oxygen could not reach it. Scenario three. 310 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: In Topeka, can just south of the Kansas River, you'll 311 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: find the Topeka Zoo. The zoo was founded in nineteen 312 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: thirty three, but underwent an expansion in nineteen sixty six. 313 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: During the construction process, cruise discovered something truly odd, the 314 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: remains of an old ship, believed to be a small 315 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: whaling vessel. There were no local records of such a 316 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: ship and archaeologists are puzzled as to how it got there. 317 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: Begin the time and the timing begins. Now we have 318 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: three minutes. Matt Okay, Okay, m clay Streets in San Francisco. 319 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: Neantic is the name of the ship? Okay? Does is me? Thinking? Allows? Yeah, 320 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: we're not asking it. If we want to ask a question, 321 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: we say that thing and then we ask yes, yes, 322 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: that's right, Matt. So like so soon may the Williman come? Yes? 323 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: Mr Bolin. So the third one was to Peka, Kansas. 324 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: That's correct. They've discovered a ship. No one knows how 325 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: it got there, just south of the Kansas River. What 326 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: was the age of it? Again, they had not determined it. 327 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: According to the source I saw, they suspected it was 328 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: from the nineteenth century. Okay, sweet, soon may the Williman come? Yes? 329 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: Not Noel. So you've got sources for these and one 330 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: of them is completely makes up seas and you've just 331 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: told us you have a source. Are you allowed to 332 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: lie even further? Quister? Absolutely crap, I've been lying this time. 333 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: That might they might be three made up praise stories there, 334 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: and I would really get you in the past. In 335 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: his defense, the quister has said it will not split 336 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: hairs and have I do not alter tiny details just 337 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: to make something lie. So in other words, if the 338 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: ship's name wasn't Niantic, would that invalidate the first one? Well, 339 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go so far as that. So either there 340 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: is or there is not a ship named Niantic that 341 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: was buried under San Francisco. Okay, okay, so we've got 342 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: so me the Williman. Yes, what was scenario too? Again? 343 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: And two? Was that an old town Alexandria during the 344 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: construction process for a hotel at the waterfront, they discovered 345 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: an American Revolutionary era warship buried under ground. Okay, um, 346 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Matt, I'm going to say that I 347 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: feel like number one is true. I feel like I've 348 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: heard that story before, maybe without knowing the Pokemon Go connection, 349 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: but I feel like I've heard that story before. Here's 350 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: the deal. I feel like I've heard it too. But 351 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: that's what's making it so suspect to me, because it 352 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: feels like I've heard it. We have I know, I know, 353 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: I do. We do? You and I have to be okay, 354 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: all right, what do you think if we if we 355 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: chose two or three if we just let's bet on 356 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: ourselves for one between two or three? Which is which 357 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: is fake? Oh? Man, So Kansas is by the river, 358 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: he has stated, Alexandria, Virginia. That's where it's a hotel waterfront. 359 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: I would say three. Okay, I'm gonna I got your back, man, 360 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: lock it in three to one. Locked, Oh, Meth Halliel Frederickson, 361 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're not one of the regular coasts. 362 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: You got it right, Yes, o man, first times, listen, 363 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: listen you you both owe me all right. It is 364 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: hard to walk three miles in a seventeen, yes, but 365 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: you meet people to know your status exactly. I was 366 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: going to have them carry me in my sedan chair, 367 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: as usually the case, but it turns out that sedans 368 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: very heavy. It's a big so to be fair, So Jonathan, 369 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. I guess we 370 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: um we can't break. We can't break a little bit 371 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: of k fave here, which is we are all on 372 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: zoom because it's still pandemic days. The three of us 373 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: were lucky enough to see each other for a second 374 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: in the office. We're working on some secret projects. Coincided. 375 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: But I just want to give you a shout out 376 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: and thank you for HOPPI on this zoom maybe a 377 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: little bit early. We're not going to tell people how 378 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: long well he showed up. I think right at the 379 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: right time. You and I took a while. It's technically 380 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: technically I showed up when I was told to show up. 381 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. And we we were late, so 382 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: I was reading your facial expressions, and there was stuff 383 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: like because we're very responsive with each other, we're doing 384 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: each other for years, and when when we were when 385 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: we were clearly like, we're like, huh, you know, maybe 386 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Jonathan would know this. I I cannot imagine the amount 387 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: of like torture that must have been. It required a 388 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: lot of self control not to hit the un mute, 389 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: which wouldn't have affected the listeners at all, except for 390 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: the fact that there would have been long, silent pauses 391 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: in the middle of your recording. We would have had 392 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: you a d R all about just maybe come in 393 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: with line where you say you guys need to think 394 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: about what you did and then keep I felt like 395 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: I felt like my introduction was was essentially that, where 396 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: I just confronted you with a litany of facts. I hope. 397 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: I hope you never have to listen to this, Jonathan, 398 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: because the parts of you missed. Uh. Look, Ben, I'm 399 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: not cut out for this. You and knowl are really 400 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: good at it. Jonathan fantastic. I'm really glad that you 401 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: guys are are helming this show. It is tough to 402 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: know so much about the ridiculousness of history. You're too kind, Matt, 403 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: and I hope that you will, of course. I think 404 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: we all hope that you will return in the future. Okay, 405 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: all right, the consensus of the show in official we 406 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: have a quorum that hopes you will return in the future. Uh. 407 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: And maybe you and Jonathan will meet once again in 408 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: the field of quister battle sooner than you think, Matt. 409 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: One thing that we it feels so ridiculous because we 410 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: hang out all the time, but when one thing we 411 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: like to do we have folks over on the show, 412 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: is to let the audience know anything that you're working 413 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: on that they should catch up on when they get 414 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: a chance. I understand we do another show called stuff. 415 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: They don't want you to know. Jonathan, you've been on 416 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: that as well. Actually, we need to have you back 417 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: on that because we've got some things coming up where 418 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: we need your expertise as Jonathan Strickland, not as the quister. 419 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: You know, I make no guarantees which one you get, 420 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: but I'm happy. I'm happy to jump on. We really do. 421 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: We made a whole episode by ourselves about n f 422 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: T S and uh we need you so so, Matt. 423 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Where where can people find find some of your projects? Well, 424 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: you can find a lot of the shows that I'm 425 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: officially an ep on right now, but I'm not voicing 426 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: anything besides stuff they don't want you to know. But 427 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: I would recommend checking out the second season of Ephemeral, 428 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: which is a great podcast hosted by Alex Williams, second 429 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: season of Stranger Arrivals, Camp Hell and Awake, which is 430 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: a true crime show, Algorithms about to come out. There's 431 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: so many shows coming out right now in our realm. 432 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: We would just I'd love for you to listen to 433 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: any and all of them, but don't elect this one 434 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: or stuff they don't want you to know, or tech 435 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: stuff or what are what are your other shows? Johnathan 436 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: John has got like seven shows. I mean, there's Large 437 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: nor John Collider, there's the Restless Ones. I think I 438 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: voiced something for strange arrivals. I think you did. Yeah, yeah, 439 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: so yeah, I'd like to keep my hand in lots 440 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: of things. Thank you, Matt, You are too kind. Obviously, 441 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: I am a huge fan of all the work that 442 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: we've all been doing since before there was an internet, 443 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: it feels like so I think any listeners who enjoy 444 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: this show you should definitely explore sort of the deeper 445 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: catalog because there's a lot of really compelling stuff out there. 446 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: Some of it is silly, some of it is extremely serious, 447 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: and some of it seems to try and bridge the 448 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: gap between the two. Mm hmm. And as always, we 449 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: hope that you enjoy this show. We hope you enjoyed 450 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: the other shows that we have here in our strange 451 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: panopoly of adventures as stay tuned. As always, there is 452 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: more to come on the way. Thanks of course, Alex 453 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: Williams could post our track. Thanks to our awesome super 454 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: producers Casey Pegrom, Andrew Howard and Max Williams. Jonathan Matt Again, 455 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: thanks to you guys. Thinks of course to knowl as well, 456 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: and if you have a story about ridiculous fashion that 457 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: you'd like us to delve into, please let us know. 458 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: Head on over to our Facebook page, Ridiculous Historians. We 459 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear from you. Jonathan. What kind of 460 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: shoes are you wearing? Man? Well, that's seventeen foot long poolins. 461 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: I actually told you that you do listen at all, 462 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: terrible at improv. All right, that's our show. For more 463 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, 464 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.