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Speaker 1: Draft. It is now officially open. This is Draft Season

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Speaker 1: presented by Moody's. Hello everybody, I am JOHNS. Shpell, joined

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Speaker 1: by as always Tony Pauline from sports Kita. Tony, we

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Speaker 1: are to the end of the regular season of college football.

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Speaker 1: It is bowl time. It is playoff time.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely is a few bowl games already already done and

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Speaker 2: completed this past weekend. And you know, the first round

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Speaker 2: of the college football playoffs coming up this coming weekend

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Speaker 2: should be exciting. We'll get into those games a little bit.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, we'll do first things first. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of dexclarations. We have our college football preview.

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Speaker 1: But first let's start with the big college football news

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. That was the Heisman Trophy, which was

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Speaker 1: one of the close first place vote contests in quite

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Speaker 1: a long time, and it goes to Travis Hunter who

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Speaker 1: just eats it out over Ashton Genty, who could both

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Speaker 1: be potential Top ten picks this year.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, I would have voted for Ashton Genty. I

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Speaker 2: thought he deserved it. It's understandable why Travis Hunter won

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Speaker 2: the award. He got most of the headlines. Plays offense,

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Speaker 2: plays defense, also plays on the team that you know

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Speaker 2: plays afternoon football on Saturday, plays early games, you know,

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Speaker 2: seven thirty games, where Boise State is usually starting nine

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Speaker 2: to ten o'clock at night. So I think the wider

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Speaker 2: Eastern voters did not get to see Ashton Genty. Both

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Speaker 2: guys are going to be top ten picks. I liked

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Speaker 2: Ashton Genty because Travis Hunter is a phenomenal player. But

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Speaker 2: I think even if you take Travis Hunter off the

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Speaker 2: Colorado team, they're still a very good team. They still

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Speaker 2: have three other outstanding receivers for Shad or Sanders to

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Speaker 2: throw the ball to. Maybe they lose a little bit

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Speaker 2: on defense, but they're still an eight to nine win team.

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Speaker 2: I think if you take Ashton Genty off of Boise State,

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Speaker 2: there's no way they're getting a buy in the first

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Speaker 2: round of the college football players. They may not even

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Speaker 2: make the college football playoffs if Ashton Genty's not on

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Speaker 2: that team. So I think that Ashton Genty just meant

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Speaker 2: more to Boise State than Travis Hunter meant to Colorado.

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Speaker 2: That's not to demean Hunter. That just shows the sort

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Speaker 2: of impact that Genty had him. Remember, I mean he

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Speaker 2: had a great game against the number one team in

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Speaker 2: three points.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm with you one hundred percent. I think I

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Speaker 1: would have voted for Genty two better team plays for

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Speaker 1: a better team, you know, as a buy in the

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Speaker 1: college football playoffs. And I think it's all about how

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Speaker 1: much do you want to credit Hunter for being a

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Speaker 1: two way player, right, because I think Genty's probably a

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Speaker 1: better player at what he does, but he doesn't do

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Speaker 1: as much as Travis Hunter does. Like this, from a

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Speaker 1: draft perspective, there's no doubt Genty's the top running back

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Speaker 1: in the draft. If Travis Hunter was just a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would pick him over Ted McMillan.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Tony. I'm not sure I would.

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Speaker 1: I probably would make him my top corner over Will Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a closer conversation that we can have

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Speaker 1: over the next few months, and I'm sure we will.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's just a matter of how much

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Speaker 1: you want to boost him because he plays two positions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring up. You may bring up a good point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the difference between Ashton Genty and the next

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Speaker 2: cornerback all it's going to be selected in a draft,

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Speaker 2: whether it be a Marion Hampton of North Carolina whoever,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, next running back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when you look at Travis Hunter compared to the

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Speaker 2: next receiver, it's a few picks. Travis Hunter next to

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Speaker 2: that it was Travis Hunter twenty four to seven throughout

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Speaker 2: the entire college football season, and for those voters who

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Speaker 2: were not dedicated to college football watchers didn't stay up

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Speaker 2: and really followed Travis follow Ashton Genty. I think that

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Speaker 2: as an NFL prospect. People kind of downgrade the running

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Speaker 2: reason this guy should not be a top ten pick. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think especially in this year's draft class, right, Tony,

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Speaker 1: You don't have guys at those premium spots this year.

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Speaker 1: So I would be more than William this year to

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Speaker 1: you feel like you have a pretty good offense in

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Speaker 1: place so already. And then the way I've kind of

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Speaker 1: come around these running backs, Tony, is that running back

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Speaker 1: is something that you want to add to an already

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Speaker 1: If you have lighter fluid, you throw it on some wood,

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Speaker 1: But if you already got something cooking and it's going well,

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Speaker 1: and you're really rolling. So I think if you have

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Speaker 1: good wide receivers. Now, I think they need to address

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Speaker 1: their offensive line. But just in terms of skilled position guys,

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Speaker 2: Or even the Dallas Cowboys, I mean, for that matter's

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Speaker 2: to be overdrafted. But I think Ashton Genty as a

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Speaker 2: I think that he can fit a variety of systems.

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Speaker 2: I think you can you know, he's a guy who

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Speaker 2: So he's a pretty safe pick, which he often don't

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Speaker 1: And I stole that lighter fluid analogy from Robert May's

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Speaker 1: You don't want to start the running back, you want

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I think we both think Travis

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Speaker 1: We're not trying to downgrade Travis Hunter here. He's fantastic

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Speaker 1: and I'm still leaning towards Tony wherever he winds up.

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Speaker 1: If he wants to play both ways, there's no way

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Speaker 1: And they all kind of laughed, like there's no chance

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Speaker 1: corner though. So if I was drafting Hunter, my plan

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Speaker 1: want him on the field. Maybe you have some custom

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Speaker 1: That's when you put him out there for offense.

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Speaker 2: Even fifteen to twenty plays is gonna be you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot, pretty tool, pretty tall order. You just

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Speaker 2: better be, you know, pretty firm that his ball skills

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Speaker 2: the receiver. It's gonna be an interesting debate moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I think it could be a situation. We talk about

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Speaker 2: put him at left tackle until he proves he can't

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Speaker 2: be that sort of situation with Travis Hunter for a

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Speaker 2: team that wants him at cornerback, We're gonna put him

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Speaker 2: at cornerback until he proves that he can't be a

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Speaker 2: you know, a number one or number two cornerback out

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Speaker 1: That's THEO. Look, cornerbacks fail going into the pros. It's great.

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Speaker 1: I think what adds to is dialing. Right, So if

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Speaker 2: Right now, I'll put him at receiver and then you

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Speaker 2: use them rather than a full time cornerback, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right. So the other thing tracking now,

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Speaker 1: sixth has been added to give players an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: and initial list of names will we released. NFL teams

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Speaker 1: January ninth to revoke their submission. The traditional hard deadline

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Speaker 1: from their classmen to submit a petition to the league

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Speaker 1: is January fifteenth. A list of names will we release

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Speaker 1: the NFL teams in the public on January twenty On

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Speaker 1: January sixteenth, players will have until January eighteenth to revoke

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Speaker 1: that submission. So there's also a special championship deadline of

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Speaker 1: January twenty fourth exclusively for the teams that are participating

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Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff National Championship Game, and those

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Speaker 1: players will have until January twenty seventh to revoke their submission.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of three different deadlines here for those

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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoffs. So these things are coming Tony,

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Speaker 1: You're in the know, You're talking to a lot of

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Speaker 1: agents and such. How is this process going for players

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Speaker 1: this year as they make this determination as to whether

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Speaker 1: with the College Football Playoffs, the All Star games, with

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Speaker 1: all the other class and being eligible and knowing they've

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Speaker 1: been eligible since the summer. How's this process kind of

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Speaker 1: playing itself out this year.

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Speaker 2: Well, the only variable in the process are the nil deals.

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Speaker 2: As far as Carson Beck's concerned, you know, you touched

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll see how that works out and what

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Speaker 2: Correct, I believe so. And I actually it's funny you

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Speaker 1: I love that, Tony. That's great. I did not know

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Speaker 1: That's funny. All right, Let's go through some of the

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Speaker 2: home run. Had a terrific campaign I'm hearing right now.

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Speaker 2: Will battle with the rest of the guy with the

433
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 2: other second tier running backs after Ashton genty to be

434
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Speaker 2: the second running back selected. Unlikely he gets out of

435
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 2: the top sixty.

436
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 1: Any chance the second running back goes at the end

437
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: of the first round, Tony, you think, because it's so deep,

438
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 1: teams are gonna wait.

439
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 2: I think there's an opportunity. I mean, you know, you

440
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: get into those late picks in round one. As we've

441
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: seen in the past San Francisco last year with the

442
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 2: receiver from from Florida. You know, strange things can happen.

443
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't shock me if in those last five

444
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: to six picks where we sit right now, a second

445
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 2: running back goes in the first round after Ashton Genty.

446
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: The other running back that declared is Ali Gordon, the

447
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: running back out of Oklahoma State. He's a guy that

448
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: know some people had in their top three or top

449
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: four before the year. I haven't heard much as much

450
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: hype on him over the course of the year. I

451
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: watched him in the summer a getting ready for the year,

452
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: and nothing really jumped out of me. He didn't seem

453
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: all that explosive to me. What you heard about Gordon

454
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 1: on the streets comes off. It comes off coming off

455
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: a bad season. Maybe third round, more likely early fourth round.

456
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 1: Had some very productive seasons at Oklahoma State, who had

457
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 1: a terrible campaign year.

458
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: The thing about Gordon is he's got some He's got

459
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: a good burst, he's got some quickness. Runs with a

460
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: very upright style, which is not good for a running

461
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: back yep, because because that leads to a lot of

462
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: big hits, potential fumbles. He's gonna have to change his

463
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: running style. You're gonna have to be comfortable with that

464
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: running style. If you take him within the first one

465
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: hundred picks. I think right now you're looking at more

466
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 2: fourth round area.

467
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: And you could be upright if you're Dereck Henry because

468
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: he weigh two hundred and fifty pounds, but not if

469
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: you're Allie Gordon. A little bit different. All right, let's

470
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Speaker 1: go to Dion Walker. Tony he's a guy. Preseason I

471
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: thought he could be a top ten, top fifteen pick.

472
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: Now people were talking more second round for him. But

473
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Speaker 1: with his size and athleticism, why do you think people

474
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Speaker 1: have cool on him a little bit as part of

475
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: the Kentucky defense that actually has done a pretty dark

476
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: good job this year.

477
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he is a big guy. I understand why.

478
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a good move that he came out.

479
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: I think the conditioning, the fact that he kind of

480
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: wears down over the course of games is a concern.

481
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: You know, people on paper, they think that these three

482
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty three hundred and sixty pounds players or

483
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: you know, they don't grow on trees, doesn't always translate

484
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: well to the next level. So he's going to have

485
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: to get that weight down. I think, if you know,

486
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: if he's focused on football, there's gonna be a lot

487
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: of intense questioning at the combine about that. How dedicated

488
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: is he to off the field off season training. If

489
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: a team is comfortable with that, I could see him

490
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 2: jumping into the back end of round one because of

491
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 2: what you said. He's not just a big guy that

492
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: takes up space and occupies blockers. I mean, he makes

493
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: plays on the ball. He's got a burst, he's got

494
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: a closing burst, he can rush the passer. But the

495
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: overall size is a bit of a concern right now.

496
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: That's going to have to be answered by him in

497
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: the postseason.

498
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw dev Andre Sweat last year. He had

499
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: some off the field stuff that obviously Dean Walker does not,

500
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: but similar size and athleticism profile to Walker, and he

501
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: was picked in the second round. So without the off

502
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: field stuff, I could easily see Walker surpassing that, especially

503
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: in a draft class that's so polarizing. Guys just don't

504
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: grow on trees under that big and Sweat is having

505
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: a pretty dark good rookie year.

506
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: He's played well, sure, and he was a good player

507
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: in Texas, but the but the issue was I mean,

508
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: he was reportedly close to three hundred and ninety pounds

509
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: at the senior ball. I think he got it down

510
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: to just under three seventy at the combine and you

511
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 2: know you're gonna have to be comfortable with the guy

512
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: that big. You know that he's not going to go

513
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: into balloon over four hundred pounds. You know, we're here

514
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 2: in New York. We remember what with McKay Beckton granted

515
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 2: the other side of the ball, but after his rookie

516
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: year he was upwards of four hundred and fifteen pounds.

517
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: It has never been the same player. You've got to

518
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: be comfortable that that guy is going to be go opposite,

519
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: gonna lose weight, gonna get a little bit smaller rather

520
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 2: than balloon up, which would just ruin his football career.

521
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: Will Campbell the offensive attack of LSU coming out of

522
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: Tony first offensive limen off the board. You think right

523
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: now or do you think guy like Kelvin Banks might

524
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: go ahead of him?

525
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 2: I still think it's gonna be Will Campbell. Obviously, people

526
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: talked about his arm length. If it's you know, thirty

527
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: three and a half or over, people be comfortable with

528
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: him at left tackle. He's been up and down. I

529
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: think early in the season he was a little bit soft.

530
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 2: He turned it on late in the year. I mean,

531
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 2: you could say he's the best pure left tackle in

532
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: this year's draft class. Kelvin Banks is very good. Kelvin

533
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: Banks is better blocking in motion. But Will Johnson got

534
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: better size, he got better length, He's got better growth potential.

535
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: I do think he'll be the first offensive tackle taken

536
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: unless people are turned off by his early season film,

537
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: where to me, he just played a little bit soft.

538
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: All right. There we are three Michigan players. Tony Colson

539
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: Loveland the tight end, Bason Graham the all world defensive

540
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: tackle who I would feel great about picking him in

541
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: the draft no matter where I'm selecting, and then Will

542
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: Johnson the cornerback. Those three guys, I want to focus

543
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: it on Campbell a little bit ton because I watched

544
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: him a little bit the last couple of weeks. It's funny,

545
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: and I went back to my notes from him over

546
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: the summer, and I didn't look at those notes before

547
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: I made notes of this year. And when I looked

548
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: at him, they were exactly the same. Not a lot

549
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: of plays on the football, a lot of off coverage,

550
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff caught in front of him in

551
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: soft coverage. I don't think he's gonna run a sub

552
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: four four five forty. I know, maybe like a four

553
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: to four eight guys something like that. I know he's long,

554
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: I know he's big. I just wonder when you actually

555
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: watch his play without the traits. He reminds me a

556
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: little bit about a little bit like Jeffrey Okuda coming

557
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State a few years ago, where a

558
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: lot of off coverage, a lot of stuff in front

559
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: of him, same type of deal. And I don't know,

560
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: I can't get there with him as like a top

561
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: five pick just watching him on tape, like he doesn't

562
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: look like Saust Garden to be you know what I mean?

563
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is that, is that the scheme or

564
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: is that the player when he's playing off coverage and

565
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things in front of because to me,

566
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: he looks like he'd be best in man coverage and

567
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: bump and run coverage, and if they're playing him, you know, you.

568
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: Know him that way though, you know what I mean,

569
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not doing it much.

570
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: They did as a freshman. His freshman year film was outstanding.

571
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: You think last year in this year, I don't watch

572
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: his freshman stuff.

573
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: He could flip his hipsters in transition, he runs down field,

574
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: he gets his head back around a lot of times

575
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: they were just not throwing in his direction, which led

576
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: to not a lot of players, but not a lot

577
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: of opportunities. I think a lot of it will go

578
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: to what the coaches say about it. Ironically, his defensive

579
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: coordinators within Martindale, you know, was that the design to

580
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: play him off backed off man off coverage and keep

581
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: the action in front of him as opposed to bump

582
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: and run coverage. He's gonna play. He's gonna play whatever

583
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: the scheme is. You know, he's gonna play within the scheme.

584
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: And you know, overall, I think when you had some

585
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: the injury to the Notre Dame kid, Notre Dame cornerback,

586
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: I think Will Johnson I still think he's gonna be

587
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: a very early pick. Is he the first cornerback selected? Well,

588
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: it depends on what you're drafting Travis Hunters or you're

589
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: drafting Travis Hunter primarily as a corner or primarily as

590
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: your wide receiver. Yeah.

591
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Hey, look I'll have to go back, and it's

592
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: funny to wait. Plays a lot of he played a

593
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: lot of press man in the Pro, so I'm curious

594
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: as to why there wasn't as much there for Will Johnson.

595
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: The other two guys Mason Grant, We've talked about him

596
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: a ton I think he could be a top five

597
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: pick this year, maybe even top three or four pick.

598
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: I think he's that good compared to other players in

599
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: the class, and then Colson level and the tight end Tony.

600
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna seek into the first round.

601
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be the first tight end selected.

602
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: I think he's a perfect fit for a team like

603
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: the La Chargers, where he goes back to his former

604
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: college coach. They need a tight end. There was talking

605
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: to them potentially taking rock hours. He's not brock Hoers,

606
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: that's for sure. I'm told you know he doesn't look

607
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: like a fast guy on film, but I'm told he's

608
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: gonna run pretty well in workouts and combine workouts for

609
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: the workouts, potentially for six's four fives. I absolutely think

610
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: he'll be the first tight end to selected in the

611
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: first round, the bottom third round one, maybe the final

612
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: ten picks.

613
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: All right, then you have Ohio State offensive tackle Josh

614
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: Simmons dealing with an injury. But if teams are Jackson

615
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: Frump side Tony, you could argue he might be the

616
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: first offensive tackle off the board.

617
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: Terrific in twenty twenty three. I thought he played well

618
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: early in twenty twenty four. It was an early injury.

619
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: There's two ways to look at it. The injury occurred

620
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: during that Oregon game, which was I believe the beginning

621
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: of October, which means he should be back sooner than later.

622
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: But he's Gabe really doesn't have a lot of game

623
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: film from last year. But yeah, he showed a lot

624
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: of showed me a lot of ability and I wrote

625
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: about it at Sports skied a fundamentally sound moves well,

626
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: real good pass protection, uses his hands exceptionally. Well, it's

627
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: just the team's got to be comfortable with the injury,

628
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: and they got to be comfortable. They got to figure

629
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: if you're taking him at the end of round one,

630
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: you have to figure that he's going to be your

631
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: starter at least midway through the season. You've got that.

632
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: That is the dynamic there, and any team that you

633
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: asked him has got to be comfortable with that.

634
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: And then finally two Texas A and M players, Nick

635
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: Gordon and Shamar Stewart.

636
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, both big defensive line. I know Scorton's your guy.

637
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: He was a defensive line. Sorry, pass rushes Scrton was

638
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: your guy, makes a lot of Purdue transfer, makes a

639
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: lot of plays in the backfield. And Shamar Stewart is

640
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: a bigger guy. He's got some growth potential. He's very athletic, unpolished.

641
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: Scort and I could see going late in round one.

642
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: I think Stuart' will maybe a quarter of around later

643
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: than that.

644
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't seen the production bump from Scrton this

645
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: year that I would have hoped, but I think actually

646
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: might be Scourton. I've heard somebody called him Scourton. I'll

647
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: have to double check and confrom the pronunciation on that,

648
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Speaker 1: but yeah, those are the guys that have declared. We'll

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Speaker 1: keep tracking that for you right here on Draft Season,

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Speaker 1: So stay tuned as we continue to do that throughout

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Speaker 1: Learnmore in moodies dot Com. All right, Tony, let's jump

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Speaker 1: over now to the college football playoffs they get going

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Speaker 1: this weekend. First, let's begin with Indiana Notre Dame, the

657
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Speaker 1: winner of that game, will take on Georgia. Curtis Rourke,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback for Indiana, was a transfer, came over with

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Speaker 1: the head coach, and then you like him voting against

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Speaker 1: Xavier Watts, the safety for Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Indiana. Who would have a year ago?

662
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Speaker 2: Who would have thought that Indiana, who would be in

663
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Speaker 2: this position? I mean, Kurt Signetti is the best college

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Speaker 2: football coach in America Pro or College just won the

665
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Speaker 2: EIGHTP Coach of the Year, well deserved. I mean, you

666
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Speaker 2: look at the Indiana roster. They don't have great talents.

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Speaker 2: I mean they got maybe one or two guys that

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Speaker 2: are going to be drafted. One of them is Curtis

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Speaker 2: Rurk and he is a great game manager, twenty seven

670
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Speaker 2: touchdowns to just four interceptions. Had thumb surgery in the

671
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Speaker 2: second half of the season, came back and played. He's

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Speaker 2: the leader, he's smart, he protects the football. You know,

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Speaker 2: now they're going against Notre Dame. They played the Michigan

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Speaker 2: and they played Michigan well. Indiana. He played well, although

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Speaker 2: that offensive line kind of tired at the end of

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Speaker 2: the game. They lost a bad game to Ohio State,

677
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Speaker 2: but that was due to special teams. Zevir watched the

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Speaker 2: safety from Michigan five interceptions and eight PBUs pass breakups

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Speaker 2: this year. Those are great numbers for safety. That is

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Speaker 2: gonna be an interesting matchup to watch. You know the

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Speaker 2: thing that I want to know and people should watch

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Speaker 2: with Curtis wark Is, does he have the downfield arm?

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Speaker 2: Does he have a vertical arm to get the ball

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Speaker 2: downfield with the speed? If he does, I think he's

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Speaker 2: gonna turn a lot of people on in the postseason,

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Speaker 2: especially with what he's done at Indiana with not great

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Speaker 2: talent around him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, well to see how that goes. And then

689
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Speaker 1: Xavier Watts, the safety for Notre Dame. Also of Howard

690
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Speaker 1: Cross the third on that defense too, Benjamin Morris in

691
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Speaker 1: the corner. He's not playing in the game obviously he

692
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Speaker 1: got hurt earlier in the year. But another guy that

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Speaker 1: should be drafted high. So tell you about Watson, then

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Speaker 1: give me give me some love on Howard Cross is

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Speaker 1: my colleagues here son, Howard Cross, the third who decided

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Speaker 1: to go back to school last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, watch is a nice size safety, excellent ball skills.

698
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Speaker 2: Like I said, five interceptions apbus. Not a guy that's

699
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Speaker 2: a straight line safety makes a lot of plays when

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Speaker 2: the ball is in the air, So Curtis Wark is

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Speaker 2: gonna have to be wary of him, Gonna have to

702
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Speaker 2: find out where he is and maybe go to the

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Speaker 2: other side of the field. Howard Cross real good player,

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Speaker 2: more of a three technique, one gap type of lineman.

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Speaker 2: Very explosive off the snap, great first step, excellent change

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Speaker 2: in direction. I think he's a guy who's going to

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Speaker 2: be a later round guy. But if you've got a

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Speaker 2: four man front and you need one of those one

709
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Speaker 2: gap defensive tackles that can rush the passer that is

710
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Speaker 2: penetrates the line of scrimmage, you're looking towards Howard Cross.

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Speaker 2: Howard Cross the third.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, only on two hundred ninety pounds. Not a big lineman, Tony.

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Speaker 1: They've hasen to play nose guard, which is the funny

714
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Speaker 1: thing in that system. But I agree, I think in

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Speaker 1: the league he's much more of a three techniqu I'm

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Speaker 1: with you on that, all right. Game number two, SMU

717
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Speaker 1: taking on Penn State. I'm sure at the start of

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Speaker 1: the year, all of a sudden, this would be one

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Speaker 1: of the college football playoffs matchups. Tony. The winner of

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Speaker 1: this game will take on Boise State under the Timosh

721
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Speaker 1: everyone knew will be rocking and rolling. Drew Lord obviously

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Speaker 1: the quarterback for Penn State. He's going back. But Tyler

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Speaker 1: Warren is tight end. We all believe he's coming out here.

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Speaker 1: So talk about them going against some of those defenders

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Speaker 1: for SMU.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Tyler Warren's the due all tight end, right.

727
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Speaker 2: I had insane production last year as a pass catcher.

728
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Speaker 2: He's a really he's a solid blocker, played some center

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Speaker 2: this year, so he does everything. And I think if

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Speaker 2: you watch Penn State, Dreweler looked towards Warren almost to

731
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Speaker 2: a fault because he was so reliably and he missed

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Speaker 2: open all the receivers, although Penn State doesn't have great receivers,

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Speaker 2: so you want to watch Warren. As far as the

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Speaker 2: SMU is concerned, they don't have a lot of talent.

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Speaker 2: They're son of them like Indiana, keep an eye on

736
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Speaker 2: their safety. Isaac Noah Kobia ninety six tackles this year,

737
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Speaker 2: three interceptions, three PBUs. He's a guy who makes place

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Speaker 2: all over the field and underclassman hold. He's considering entering

739
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Speaker 2: the draft, but again that nil deal may come in

740
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Speaker 2: and keep him in the SMU. He's a bigger guy

741
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Speaker 2: who goes sideline to sideline, great against the run, good

742
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Speaker 2: against the past. There's gonna be a lot of matchups

743
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Speaker 2: between between No No No KOBEA and Tyler Warren. Gotta

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00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: keep that an eye on that because that is the

745
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Speaker 2: next level matchup.

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Speaker 1: And there are other PennState players too to keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on. Tony, I'm gonna three. You can talk about

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Speaker 1: them or anyone else you want to discuss. You guys,

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Speaker 1: your man at dual Carter the pass rusher. You have

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Speaker 1: Kevin Winston Junior, the safety. Then you have running back

751
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Speaker 1: Nicolas Singleton as well, who has had some production this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the one guy I'll mention is that

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Speaker 2: Carter ken SMU stop him. I mean, are they are

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Speaker 2: they going to game plan around They have a quarterback

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Speaker 2: and RPO quarterback who's good running the ball, passing the ball,

756
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Speaker 2: and get out of the pocket make plays, And that's

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Speaker 2: something they're probably gonna have to do because I don't

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Speaker 2: know that the SMU offensive line is gonna be able

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Speaker 2: to contain a dual quarter.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Clemson in Texas. Barret Carter, a player

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Speaker 1: we talked about during process, right he came back to school.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna come out now on the linebacker for Clemson.

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Speaker 1: And you like the match up against Gunner Helm from

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Speaker 1: Texas well.

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Speaker 2: We talked about Gunner Heilmer, or some of our guests

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Speaker 2: have talked about Gunner Heilm, the tight end from Texas.

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Speaker 2: He's had a great year. He's had a real good year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know he's a great prospect. I think he's

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Speaker 2: more of a Day three type prospect. He's good pass catcher,

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Speaker 2: He's a good blocker, not a great athlete. I'm not

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Speaker 2: expecting great testing times. Barrett Carter is your prototypical week

772
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Speaker 2: side linebacker in the days where weekside linebackers in the

773
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Speaker 2: four to three were valued. He's a running chase linebacker.

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Speaker 2: He's very athletic. He covers a lot of area on

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Speaker 2: the field. It's gonna be sort of a mismatch because

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Speaker 2: Gunner Helm's probably got three to four inches if not

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Speaker 2: more on Barret Carter, so he's gonna have that height advantage.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure that Quen You is gonna be looking

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Speaker 2: his way often throughout that game. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a tough game for Clemson. I mean, they just

781
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Speaker 2: don't match up well against Texas, who's got terrific talent

782
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Speaker 2: on the offensive line, on their defensive, defensive line, in

783
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Speaker 2: their secondary. They did a great job beating SMU in

784
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Speaker 2: overtime with that fifty six yard field goal to sneak

785
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Speaker 2: into to get into the uh get into the that

786
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Speaker 2: get that final spot of the college football playoffs. But

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Speaker 2: I think this is this could be a big blowout

788
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: in Texas's favor because they just thought Clemson just does

789
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Speaker 2: not match up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Clemson doesn't have to figure out a way.

791
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Speaker 1: And I think it'll be a good test for the

792
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Speaker 1: Texas offensive line. Right if if this Texas offensive line

793
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Speaker 1: dominates this game and you know, yours are sitting back

794
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 1: there and he's not pressure and this could go south.

795
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Speaker 1: So I think it's a good test to you know, Clemson,

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Speaker 1: They're they're good upfront on defense. They've always traditionally been

797
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: a good defense there. So curious to see if Texas

798
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Speaker 1: gets one more shot for these offensive line in the

799
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Speaker 1: show that they should be drafted high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And you know we don't we don't mention

801
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 2: them too much. But John Dave Barren, the cornerback from Texas.

802
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: He's an opportunistic guy without standing ball skills. Could give

803
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: that Clemson offense a very tough time when they try

804
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 2: and put the ball in the air.

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Speaker 1: Whenever that game will take on Arizona State Final game

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Speaker 1: this weekend Tony Tennessee and Ohio State. This to me

807
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: is the premier game. You get some really good players

808
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: in this matchup, and you like the Tennessee defensive line

809
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: and going against that banged up Ohio State offensive line.

810
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you watch the Michigan Ohio State

811
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Speaker 2: game with Mason Graham and and Kenneth Grant up front,

812
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: they basically had their way with the Michigan. With the

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Speaker 2: michig with the humps are the Ohio State offensive line.

814
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Speaker 2: Tennessee's got three real good players on the inside that

815
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Speaker 2: are going to be Day three picks to keep an

816
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Speaker 2: eye on. They're not as talented as the Michigan defensive front,

817
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: but they're intense that they're very explosive, and they keep

818
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: on coming. So unless Ohio State changes their game plan,

819
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Speaker 2: if they go into this game with the same sort

820
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Speaker 2: of let's run the ball on the inside, I think Tennessee,

821
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: you know, has got a real chance at this game,

822
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Speaker 2: and when you look at it from appropriate prospect point

823
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Speaker 2: of view, you've got to keep an eye on that

824
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Speaker 2: that the interior of that Tennessee defensive line. Everyone talks

825
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: about James Pierce, the pass rusher who in August and

826
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Speaker 2: July people were projecting his top five picks. He hasn't

827
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Speaker 2: had the season that a lot of people expected, but

828
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: those defensive tackles have which has helped carry that defense.

829
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Speaker 2: And when you flip it around, you know the the

830
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Speaker 2: Ohio State cornerbacks Denzel Bark and the other kid, David

831
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Speaker 2: not even gonna try and pronounce his last name, have

832
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: had difficult years. You look at the Tennessee quarterback who

833
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: is an underclassman not eligible for the drift, Nicolay. He

834
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Speaker 2: is a big play quarterback. So you're gonna have to

835
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Speaker 2: watch those Ohio State cornerbacks to basically keep that vertical

836
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Speaker 2: passing game from Tennessee in check because they are prone

837
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Speaker 2: to the big plays down the field. And as we've seen,

838
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: the Johanna State cornerbacks this year are prone to lapses

839
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Speaker 2: which results in big plays for the opposition.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and finally, it's one more look at Dylan Sampson too. Right,

841
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Speaker 1: the Tennessee running back. I know some people having the

842
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Speaker 1: mix of that second running back off the board day

843
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Speaker 1: two pick for sure. What are your thoughts on Samson?

844
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Speaker 2: Very explosive. I don't think he's gonna be the second select,

845
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Speaker 2: the second running back selected, another real good Tennessee back

846
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Speaker 2: running back. I think he's more of a third round pick.

847
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Speaker 2: This will be a good challenge, terrific challenge for him

848
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: because the strength of that Ohio State defense is that

849
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: defensive line Tyleek Williams on the inside. You got Jack

850
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: Sawyer and too many Lowa on the edges. So you

851
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Speaker 2: know what, Ken Dylan Sampson, you know, be productive against

852
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Speaker 2: the real good unit for Ohouse State. I like Sampson

853
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 2: is more of a third round pick. We talked about

854
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. Sampson is explosive, he's fast, but he doesn't

855
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Speaker 2: have that same wiggle, that same ability to make defenders

856
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Speaker 2: miss as a Caleb Johnson. Caleb Johnson, Tony, what do

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Speaker 2: you cook.

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Speaker 1: It right now? In sports? Key to that fans and

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Speaker 1: check out well.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we've got breakdowns of all the games, all the

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Speaker 2: college football games. We'll have a couple of mock drafts

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Speaker 2: up soon and all the breaking news on the underclassmen.

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Speaker 2: We talked about three of the Mission guys entering the draft,

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Speaker 2: Mason Graham, Well Johnson, and Colston Leven. I'm told that

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Speaker 2: the four Kenneth Grant is also very likely to enter

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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 1: He's your first mock draft up yet or still are

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Speaker 1: not yet.

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Speaker 2: We had one right after Thanksgiving. And what we're gonna

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Speaker 2: be doing what I would be asked to do, which

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Speaker 2: is gonna be interesting because I've never done, is We're

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Speaker 2: gonna do team by team mock draft. So we're gonna

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Speaker 2: go team by team, probably five to seven rounds right

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Speaker 2: after Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I have the seven rounds challenging.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is time.

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Speaker 1: Consume me God's speed. Sorry, Tony, good stuff man, And

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Speaker 1: we will catch up with you guys right before Christmas

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Speaker 1: Eve next week where react to all the college football games.

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Speaker 1: We'll get that up before the holiday, so in case

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Speaker 1: you're driving around and you need to you know, you

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Speaker 1: want to get some college football and draft breakdown on

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Speaker 1: your holiday travels, that's great. And then the following we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be on Thursday that week because you want to

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Speaker 1: come on after the second round of the college football Playoffs,

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Speaker 1: which is taking place on New Year, so we'll come

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Speaker 1: with you on Thursday the following week, and my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five. Who would have thought it? Tony,

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Speaker 1: good stuff, my friend. Talk to you soon and talk

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Speaker 1: to you next week and enjoy the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, John, you as well. Same to the viewers.

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Speaker 1: That's Tony Pauline from sports Keta. I am John schmelt

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Speaker 1: Unlock Opportunity, learnmro Moodies dot com. For Tony Pauline, I'm

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Speaker 1: John Smelk. We'll see you next time. Everybody, Happy holidays,